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Robert A. Leffingwell

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May 19, 2013, 9:48:44 AM5/19/13
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"Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org> wrote in message
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>
> But the other thing that will come out of this is that a bunch of rogue
> agents at the IRS caused all of this. It wasn't any type of mandate that
> came down from the head of the IRS.

Nobody was a rogue. The agents were career civil servants whose job was to
enforce the law regardless of the deals the Democrats made with the
Republicans not to tread on their superPAC turf. To put it another way, how
can an organization that pays Sarah Palin $150,000 for a speech be tax
exempt?

How can Karl Rove's spending $150MM in negative commercials be a tax exempt
charity?

How can Shelly Adelson's $70MM to support candidates who would fight to have
China revalue Shelly's huge Yuan stash (originating from Macao gambling and
prostitution) be considered tax exempt?

Sure, the left wing also attempted the same shtick. The difference is they
don't have Koch money and they don't have Adelson money. They have union
money which in comparison is a drop in the bucket. The IRS did not give the
left that much scrutiny because there was HARDLY ANY MONEY there.

Joe Cooper

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"Robert A. Leffingwell" <RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Sure, the left wing also attempted the same shtick. The difference is
> they don't have Koch money and they don't have Adelson money. They
> have union money which in comparison is a drop in the bucket. The IRS
> did not give the left that much scrutiny because there was HARDLY ANY
> MONEY there.

Gee, what's poor George Soros to think being relegated to "union money?"
(Aside from that, I'd challenge the contention that "union money" is "a
drop in the bucket." That's just flat out nonsense.

Soros funds a good many exempt agitprop organizations, not the least of
which is Media Matters.

--
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Leftists think and act like protofascists. Control is the key. And
control through fear, threat of force, and rhetorical intimidation
is the modus operandi. (Ben Shapro, "Bullies")

Robert A. Leffingwell

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"Joe Cooper" <nieqez...@tormail.org> wrote in message
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." That's just flat out nonsense.
>
> Soros funds a good many exempt agitprop organizations, not the least of
> which is Media Matters.

Media Matters? Is that the website that proves people like you are full of
shit?

Bert

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In news:it4mt.72910$R74....@fed03.iad "Kirby Grant"
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> Ultimately, even though there might be issues of fairness in
> targetting conservative groups, it doesn't appear that any laws were
> broken in such targeting. Conservatives would do the exact same thing
> to liberal groups if they had the ability.

Then you should be able to show that this sort of thing has been
happening for as long as 501(c) exemptions have existed, and was done
during both Republican and Democrat administrations.

> But in their case it would be done for solely evil purposes.

So, what was the good purpose for which the question was asked this
time?

I eagerly await your answers.

--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN

Robert A. Leffingwell

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"Bert" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
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> Then you should be able to show that this sort of thing has been
> happening for as long as 501(c) exemptions have existed, and was done
> during both Republican and Democrat administrations.

Bert, if were even half as intelligent as you tell us are, you would know
that because of the decision made by GOP appointees to the SCOTUS, there are
immense amounts of money for negative campaign ads disguised as C-3/4 money.
It is a condition that never existed before. This included things occurred
like Adelson's $70MM "charitable" giving which was only a ploy to benefit
candidates (mostly Gingrich) that would pressure China to upvalue Adelson's
Yuan holdings derived from gambling and prostitution.

Reasonable civil service workers saw stuff like Adelson and Rove's
dispensing Koch money for negative commercials and decided further
investigation was needed. The fact that the Dems and Reps made deals among
themselves to lay off each other's superPACs never crossed the minds of
career civil service worker. They were only concerned about the law.

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Bert

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May 19, 2013, 12:59:48 PM5/19/13
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In news:knasmg$531$1...@dont-email.me "Robert A. Leffingwell"
<RALeff...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Bert" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
> news:XnsA1C56BC1B1E...@78.46.70.116...
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>> Then you should be able to show that this sort of thing has been
>> happening for as long as 501(c) exemptions have existed, and was done
>> during both Republican and Democrat administrations.
>
> Bert, if were even half as intelligent as you tell us are,

Since you have no answer, why do you even bother?

Robert A. Leffingwell

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"Bert" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
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>> Bert, if were even half as intelligent as you tell us are,
>
> Since you have no answer, why do you even bother?

OK, you are not very intelligent. Happy now?

Bert

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May 19, 2013, 1:34:37 PM5/19/13
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In news:knb1dq$109$1...@dont-email.me "Robert A. Leffingwell"
There's really no reason for you to continue providing even more
evidence that you're a fool; that's been well established.

opel

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On 5/19/2013 7:29 AM, Kirby Grant wrote:
> Nevertheless, conservatives - mostly because they are evil - are

"Kirby Grant" <KGr...@yahoo.com> a �crit dans le message de groupe de
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> My life-partner, Brad, and I agree. This is, without a doubt, THE best
> song
> of 2012!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5nEV8q-4U
>
> God favors President Obama because he isn't a stupid bible-thumper
> evangelical religous nut job. God hates all conservatives anyhow since
> conservatism is in direct opposition to the divine plan since it gets in
> the
> way of progress. God has always favored liberals. Conservatives only
favor
> themselves and hate god.
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RichTravsky

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Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 May 2013 13:29:50 GMT, "Kirby Grant" <kgr...@whatzit.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >On 18-May-2013, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> >
> >> Congressman: IRS asked pro-life group about 'the content of their
> >> prayers'
> >> http://washingtonexaminer.com/congressman-irs-asked-pro-life-group-about-the-content-of-their-prayers/article/2529924
> >>
> >> During a House Ways and Means Committee hearing today, Rep. Aaron
> >> Schock, R-Ill., grilled outgoing IRS commissioner Steven Miller about
> >> the IRS targeting a pro-life group in Iowa.
> >>
> >> “Their question, specifically asked from the IRS to the Coalition for
> >> Life of Iowa: ‘Please detail the content of the members of your
> >> organization’s prayers,’" Schock declared.
> >>
> >> “Would that be an inappropriate question to a 501 c3 applicant?” asked
> >> Schock. “The content of one’s prayers?”
> >>
> >> “It pains me to say I can’t speak to that one either,” Miller replied.
> >>
> >> After Schock pressed him further, Miller explained that although he
> >> couldn't comment on the specific case, it would "surprise him" if that
> >> question was asked.
> >>
> >> The report comes from the Thomas More Society, a national public
> >> interest law firm for religious liberty.
> >>
> >> CB
> >> Clear violation of Separation of Church and State
> >>
> >> Steven Miller is a piece of...work, without natural affection,
> >> souless.
> >
> >Ultimately, even though there might be issues of fairness in targetting
> >conservative groups, it doesn't appear that any laws were broken in such
> >targeting. Conservatives would do the exact same thing to liberal groups if
> >they had the ability. But in their case it would be done for solely evil
> >purposes.
>
> This isn't about the actions of Conservatives or Republicans, it's
> about the systematic, purposeful intent of this administration through
> EVERY controlled branch of government to suppress Constitutional
> rights of Conservative groups to community organize.

Why did Bush appointee Shulman do this?

GSI

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May 20, 2013, 12:48:02 AM5/20/13
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On 2013-05-19 23:16:35 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig said:

> Everyone knows Obama has become unhinged in his power. His copos,
> under bosses and soldiers will have to rat the don out for any real
> Progress in, The Case Against President Barock Hussien Obama.

"Everyone knows Obama has become unhinged…"
Only the sick egoist/losers of the far "christian" right.

> CB
> Revised:
>
> Being Progressive means never reflecting back as to moralize on one's
> behavior or character. Looking back to see the wake of ones
> destruction doesn't interest the Progressive because they can do no
> wrong.

In truth, it means the opposite. In fact, the REAL truth will always be
the opposite of whatever the EGOISTS say it is. They are STUPID
and extremely low, egocentric people with an all-consuming need
to "WIN". To support their total EGOTISM at all cost. To do so, they
will parrot any LIE that supports their sick world-view.

> Being Progressive means to look the other way when President Obama
> and/or Hillary ignores three requests for increased security leading
> up the to the 10th anniversary of 9/11. Resulting in the murder of
> America's ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.

Under Bush, there were 12 attacks on American Embassies, plus 9/11.
Not once did anyone call for the impeachment of Bush.

>
> Being progressive is to look the other way when the White House tries
> to cover Benghazi up by blaming a film about Mohammad to purposely
> inflame Islamo-fascists! Impeachable

To this day, no one yet knows for sure who or why the Libiyan Embassy
was attacked. This TIMELINE:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/libya-consulate-attack-protests_n_1953057.html


suggests that the attack was very large-scale, and military in its
scope and thoroughness.
There were Islamic riots over the American right-wing made film
that discredits Mohammad taking place around the same time.
The American Right-wing has used every means it can to
deny any connection, and distance itself from the film.

> Being Progressive means never checking on the whereabouts of the guns
> that Fast and Furious walked into Mexico to give to drug cartels.

Being Progressive means having nothing to do with GUNS period.

> Being Marxist 'is' driving up the cost of energy to 'necessarily
> bankrupt the coal industry', Fascism is going after your political
> enemies using the IRS/SS

Being a Fascist Christian means bankrupting the Envrionmental
industry so that the Koch Brothers Oil Monopoly remains the most
powerful force in right-wing America.

> Being Conservative means to hold oneself to a standard of
> behavior that honors God for fear of Judgment on a life time
> of choice,behavior and character.

Only when that "God HATES the same people that
Conservatives HATE.
If LIES have to be told, or people arrested and sent to detention
camps or killed, to advance the agenda of said "God",
then so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the Palestinians
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the homosexuals
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the lesbians
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the environmentalists
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the scientists
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the liberals
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the Muslims
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the Buddhists
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the Hindus
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the atheists
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the naturalists
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the tree-huggers
wiped out, so be it.
Conservatives KNOW that "God" wants all the intellectuals
wiped out, so be it.

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opel

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May 20, 2013, 12:10:53 PM5/20/13
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On 5/20/2013 6:54 AM, Kirby Grant wrote:
> We don't have to be fair. Fairness is a luxury we cannot afford in certain
> areas.


Listen to the little fascist fag dribble on.

Did you clear that emission with your "life partner Brad"?

"Kirby Grant" <KGr...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de groupe de

Robert A. Leffingwell

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> Listen to the little fascist fag dribble on.

Opie, are you capable of enunciating ANYTHING resembling SOME degree of
intelligence?

BTW, aside for the idiotic fascist thing, why do you still call total
strangers the same stupid names your dad called you?

Gronk

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Hell Stomper

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On May 19, 9:48 am, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
<RALeffingw...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Nobody was a rogue.

Correct. They were following orders from Obama.

Gronk

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You mean Bush appointee Shulman, as this started under Bush.


opel

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On 5/29/2013 2:35 PM, Gronk wrote:
> Hell Stomper wrote:
>> On May 19, 9:48 am, "Robert A. Leffingwell"
>> <RALeffingw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nobody was a rogue.
>>
>> Correct. They were following orders from Obama.
>
> You mean Bush appointee

Obama re-appointee.

Gronk

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May 29, 2013, 9:09:56 PM5/29/13
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LOL

Nope. Shulman had a single five year appointment which ran out last
November. No reappointed


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RichTravsky

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Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> Such a poor...poor judge of character

That's Duhbya for ya.
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GSI

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On 2013-06-01 21:09:48 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig said:

> For someone who claims Republicans be ignant, you don't have a clue
> was to what laws, Constitutional rights have been violated.
>
> Your source of news reveal who be the ignant, hee'uh. That be you.
>
> Now go watch the real source for the truth of what Obama, Holder,
> Rice, Hillary, Shulman, Lerner and...Joseph Grant, commissioner of the
> agency’s tax exempt/government entities divisions. That guy may just
> be the key to Oboobuh's jail time.

Everything you believe, or pretend to believe is a LIE.
You are a Zionist, and EGOIST.
You are a STUPID fool, being used by Zionists.
There are millions of you.
Zionists are dangeling a carrot called "Jesus" in front of you,
and you are eagerly turning TRAITOR on your country, and
bending over for your Zionist masters.
They don't give a shit about you or Jesus.
They want to totally control and own this world.
They are not "spiritual" in any way.
Their goals are 100% material.
You are cannon-fodder to them.

You are an Egoist, who believes his lot or status will be greatly
improved if the Zionists "WIN". So you will repeat and believe
any LIE to get YOUR "WIN". There are millions like you.
Sick creeps being USED by smart, ruthless propagandists.
All of what goes on in American politics relates to the struggle
for total control of America, and the American military by Zionists.
One they gain control of the presidency, they will control
everything, the government, the military, the corporations, the media.
Everything else is now in place, except the Presidency.
WW3 is near, and EGOISTS like CB know it. They can't wait…
- GSI

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Hell Stomper

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He was taking his orders from Obama. Get over it, your done.

Hell Stomper

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And you are a loony.

GSI

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Really?

Please explain what is wrong, IYO, with what I wrote.

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RichTravsky

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Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 09:54:38 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
> 7/11.nig wrote:
>
> >Actually President Bush was given little choice of two Evils'.
>
> Bush wasn't smart enough personally to know one way or other
>
> He had extremists running everything from foriegn policy to economic
> policy and he had NO way of discerning what was harmful to all
> america.

Hey, cut the hick some slack - at least he admitted incompetent Duhbya
appointed another incompetent.

RT

GSI

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On 2013-06-02 15:00:37 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig said:
> Allah is a false god of the Deceiver, the Whore of Babylon of which
> the anti-Christ will rise to world power.

Allah is the word for God in Arabic. Allah means God.
Do you think THEIR God is different from YOUR God?
I guess you must, since you say Allah is a false God.
How do you know Allah is a false God.
How do you know YOUR God is NOT a false God.
The true answer is that you know nothing about God.
You are a person who needs an "enemy".
A People you can hate. There are millions like you.
People who live to hate.
They wake up every day, and turn on Fox, or Glenn Beck,
or their favorite right-wing radio "shock-jock" to begin the
daily feeding of the HATE demon within them.
They are EGOISTS. Egoists always have to be "right".
That means someone else has to be "wrong".
That is the real reason the God of your enemy is a False God.
Allah is a "False God" so that YOUR "God" is a "True" "God",
thereby making you "Right".

Sick egoists (assholes) like YOU will go to any lengths to
"prove" that you are "RIGHT".
And you have powerful "friends" in high places who can
USE dumb assholes like you. They need your vote to elect
them into political office. So they tell you what you want to hear.
That they will start a war that will kill the Whore of Babylon.
That they will KILL the people you HATE.
They are INSANE, and so are YOU.
There is no "Whore of Babylon". Not ONE person on the
planet knows for sure what is meant by "Whore of Babylon".
Babylon is GONE forever. Now, there are just ruthless, evil
people who know how to USE the stupid and egocentric
people of this world to get what THEY want.


GSI

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On 2013-06-03 02:36:21 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig said:

>> Allah is the same God as ours, just worshipped and named differently.
>
> There 'is' no relative moral equivalence between Goodness and Evil.
>
> Islam practiced as Mohammad would convince the most ignorant Infidel
> that Islam is Evil.
>
> The Truth About Muhammad (Book By Robert Spencer)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLST73vDX-E
>
> Ask me if you need more...
>
> Here...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKWf7iX6ru0
> The Truth about Muhammad [1 of 7]
> Robert Spencer

Spencer is one of the best-known Islam HATERS on the planet.
He has written 12 Islam-hate books.
When TV shows need an Islamophobe, they call Spencer.
He is an anti-Islam Zionist propagandist.

From Yahoo Answers:
Question: Is Robert Spencer a Zionist?
Answer:
Brynn, There is an old saying; "follow the money."

Robert Spencer's website says: "ROBERT SPENCER is the
director of Jihad Watch, a program of the David Horowitz
Freedom Center." http://jihadwatch.org/spencer/

The David Horowitz Freedom Center was established with
funding from conservative philanthropies, such as the Olin
Foundation the Bradley Foundation and the Sarah Scaife
Foundation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horow

Olin Foundation has closed down.

Both the Bradley Foundation and the Sarah Scaife Foundation
have made major donations to the The Project for the New
American Century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Scaif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Fou

Who is The Project for the New American Century
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for

They are the zionists behind the American Wars of Terror.

"The Bradley Foundation has provided funding for the Project
for a New American Century (PNAC). PNAC brought together
prominent members of the (George W) Bush Administration
(Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Paul
Wolfowitz) in the late 1990s to articulate their
neoconservative foreign policy, including sending a letter
to President Bill Clinton urging him to invade Iraq."

It is also interesting to note, that the Sarah Scaife
Foundation is a major financial contributor to the George C.
Marshall Institute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._M

"to conduct technical assessments of scientific issues with
an impact on public policy". It is known for its skepticism
toward the mainstream scientific opinion on climate change.

Historian Naomi Oreskes says the institute has, in order to
resist and delay regulation, lobbied politically to create a
false public perception of scientific uncertainty over the
negative health effects of second-hand smoke, the
carcinogenic nature of tobacco smoking, and on the evidence
between CFCs and ozone depletion.

I have not read or heard anything by Robert Spencer but the
people who pay his bills are zionists who support war in the
Middle East.


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GSI

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On 2013-06-03 20:35:57 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig said:
> Islam is a death cult, Glenn Beck and Foxness doesn't have to tell me
> that, you hate filled bigot, history does.
>
>>
>> Sick egoists (assholes) like YOU will go to any lengths to
>> "prove" that you are "RIGHT".
>
> It's not about right and wrong, it's about Goodness and Evil.
>
> Christians good, Islam Evil....history proves it.
>
> This Crusade is no different than any in the past. It's to drive Evil
> back into its spider hole.
>
>> And you have powerful "friends" in high places who can
>> USE dumb assholes like you.
>
> Your character 'be' show'n
>
> You to have powerful friends too, in principalities of darkness.
>
>> They need your vote to elect them into political office.
>
> We don't cheat the vote, we don't put voter machines in the back of
> our cars and we aren't convicted of voter fraud, Progressives Dims
> are.
>
> So they tell you what you want to hear.
>> That they will start a war that will kill the Whore of Babylon.
>> That they will KILL the people you HATE.
>> They are INSANE, and so are YOU.
>> There is no "Whore of Babylon". Not ONE person on the
>> planet knows for sure what is meant by "Whore of Babylon".
>
> Any 'true Christian knows exactly who rides on the Whore of Babylon,
> false religion. It's the Anti-Christ, the Deceiver him self.

There are no more "true Christians". Only sick loser creeps who
believe what they WANT to believe. Sick EGOIST losers who live
to HATE.

> There, be not deceived any longer. A real live Christian who loves you
> enlightened you without hating you.
>
>> Babylon is GONE forever.
>
> Nothing's changed in the eyes of the One True God. Persia might have
> changed its name to Iran, Gog and Magog may have changed their name in
> Russia and the Dome of the Rock may have lost its meaning to the
> ignorant but we Christians know the Truth.

All BULLSHIT. You believe what you want to believe. You believe
whatever supports your arrogant racism and HATE.

>> Now, there are just ruthless, evil
>> people who know how to USE the stupid and egocentric
>> people of this world to get what THEY want.
>>
>
> Peace on Earth and good will toward their fellow man instead of Jihad
> CB
It takes two to tangle. The policies of the USA and Israel are the
reason the moslem world is fighting back. THEY see us as the
EVIL ones. They know the KOCH brothers are coming for their
OIL and their land sooner or later.



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GSI

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On 2013-06-13 14:53:26 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig said:

>> I have not read or heard anything by Robert Spencer but the
>> people who pay his bills are zionists who support war in the
>> Middle East.
>>
>
> He was a Muslim who became enlightened, you fool. He turned from the
> Dark Force which the 12th Imam will use to manufacture world chaos!
>
> There is no one better to witness to the Evils of Islam as Mohammed
> instructed on behalf of the Deceiver
>
> Go now little Infie and enlighten your self before it's to late, the
> Harvest is near

You are INSANE. You, and all the EGOISTS who think like you,
are INSANE. And that includes the Muslim EGOISTS.
The USA has made these people into enemies. WE are the ones
on THEIR land. WE are the ones who are taking their land from them.

You are all SICK EGOISTS. You would find an "ENEMY" no matter
what the political situation was. EGOISTS have to have an "ENEMY"
to point the finger at, to HATE, so THEY can be "RIGHT" and the
"ENEMY" can be "WRONG". You are a ZIONIST Evangelical
Christian, a combination of the two most extreme forms of
"religious" ARROGANCE on the planet. The Muslim TALIBAN,
and Brotherhood, are sane by comparison.


> What they're saying about "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam
> (and the Crusades)":
>
>
> "To win the War on Terror, we must understand our enemies. The
> courageous and indefatigable Robert Spencer busts myths and tells
> truths about jihadists that no one else will tell. The Politically
> Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) is indispensable reading."
>
> -- Michelle Malkin, author, In Defense of Internment

>
> "With a provocative and irreverent style, Robert Spencer assails,
> with much erudition, the taboos imposed by the Politically Correct
> League. A daring tonic that teaches fundamental truths."
>
> -- Bat Ye'or, author, Eurabia and The Decline of Eastern Christianity
> Under Islam
>
>
>
> "The jihad that the Western world faces today is identical in its
> motivations and goals to that which Europe managed to stave off almost
> a thousand years ago ­ thanks in large part to the Crusades of which
> the West is now ashamed. In this book, Robert Spencer tells the truth
> that few in the U.S. or Europe wish to face. Today's jihad, as Spencer
> illustrates here, is proceeding on two fronts: one of violence and
> terror, and another of cultural shaming and the rewriting of history.
> Here is a devastating riposte to that revisionism -- and a clarion
> call for the defense of the West, before it is too late."
>
> -- Ibn Warraq, author of Why I Am Not A Muslim and editor of Leaving
> Islam and What the Koran Really Says
>
>
>
> "The value of Spencer’s book is twofold. He reminds us of the
> consequences of our failure to come to grips with the message and
> implications of Islam. And he warns against the spirit of masochistic
> self-loathing that permeates the Western elite class. In a sane world
> Spencer’s recommendations -- notably that the upholders of sharia
> should be treated as political radicals and subjected to appropriate
> supervision -- ­would not be deemed 'politically incorrect' but
> eminently sensible."
>
> -- Serge Trifkovic, author, Sword of the Prophet


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On 2013-06-13 18:11:08 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig said:

> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:32:30 -0700, GSI <g...@itchynet.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2013-06-13 14:53:26 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig said:
>>
>>>> I have not read or heard anything by Robert Spencer but the
>>>> people who pay his bills are zionists who support war in the
>>>> Middle East.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He was a Muslim who became enlightened, you fool. He turned from the
>>> Dark Force which the 12th Imam will use to manufacture world chaos!
>>>
>>> There is no one better to witness to the Evils of Islam as Mohammed
>>> instructed on behalf of the Deceiver
>>>
>>> Go now little Infie and enlighten your self before it's to late, the
>>> Harvest is near
>>
>> You are INSANE. You, and all the EGOISTS who think like you,
>> are INSANE. And that includes the Muslim EGOISTS.
>> The USA has made these people into enemies. WE are the ones
>> on THEIR land. WE are the ones who are taking their land from them.
>
> You are a fool
>
> "The jihad that the Western world faces today is identical in its
> motivations and goals to that which Europe managed to stave off almost
> a thousand years ago ­ thanks in large part to the Crusades of which
> the West is now ashamed. In this book, Robert Spencer tells the truth
> that few in the U.S. or Europe wish to face. Today's jihad, as Spencer
> illustrates here, is proceeding on two fronts: one of violence and
> terror, and another of cultural shaming and the rewriting of history.
> Here is a devastating riposte to that revisionism -- and a clarion
> call for the defense of the West, before it is too late."
>
> -- Ibn Warraq, author of Why I Am Not A Muslim and editor of Leaving
> Islam and What the Koran Really Says

There is NO Jihad, except what has been manufactured to
feed the war profiteers, the global ambitions of the Zionists,
and the fantasies of INSANE evangelicals.
The middle-eastern countries are UNDEFENDABLE from
attack by American or northern European countries. Study
Sun Tsu - "The Art of War". Hot or warm SOUTHERN
countries NEVER attack colder NORTHERN countries.
It's always the other way around. Nearly ALL war involves
an agressive Northern country attacking a peaceful, warm
southern country or territory.
WE are the threat, in the middle-east.
The Muslim world knows we are coming for their oil, sooner
or later, and the Jews want ALL of Palestine, and will do
anything to get it, even start WW3.

>
>>
>> You are all SICK EGOISTS. You would find an "ENEMY" no matter
>> what the political situation was. EGOISTS have to have an "ENEMY"
>> to point the finger at, to HATE, so THEY can be "RIGHT" and the
>> "ENEMY" can be "WRONG". You are a ZIONIST Evangelical
>> Christian, a combination of the two most extreme forms of
>> "religious" ARROGANCE on the planet. The Muslim TALIBAN,
>> and Brotherhood, are sane by comparison.
>
> You have no Higher Moral Authority to base your statement on. As a
> Progressive your philosophy is live and let live, no judgment of
> character or culture.
>
> The Crusades were to drive Evil (false religion let by the Deceiver
> and his Legion of the Muslim Brotherhood), back and your blind to
> history.

As usual, EGO-Christians like yourself, have re-written history to
support your demonization of the Muslim world. Wikipedia:

"The first crusade was called by Pope Urban II in 1095 with the stated goal
of restoring Christian access to the holy places in and near Jerusalem.
This led to an intermittent 200-year struggle to reclaim the Holy Land that
ended in failure. The background was the Arab–Byzantine Wars, the
Byzantine–Seljuq Wars and the defeat of the Byzantine army by Seljuk Turks
at Manzikert in 1071. The Norman conqueror Robert Guiscard's conquest of
Byzantine territories added to the problems of the Byzantine Empire. In an
attempt to curtail both dangers, its Emperor Alexios I sought to align
Christian
nations against a common enemy, requested western aid, and Urban II in turn
enlisted western leaders in the cause.[2] Several hundred thousand soldiers
became Crusaders by taking vows;[3] the papacy granted them plenary
indulgences. The crusaders were Christians from all over Western Europe
under feudal rather than unified command. There were seven major and
numerous minor Crusades against Muslim territories. Rivalries among both
Christian and Muslim powers also led to alliances between religious
factions against their opponents, such as the Christian alliance with the
Islamic Sultanate of Rûm during the Fifth Crusade. When the last Christian
stronghold in the Holy Land fell at Acre in 1291 there was no coherent
response."

See, the truth is Europeans were trying to take Arab lands away from Arabs.

> Just because you don't believe what's going on in the world doesn't
> mean it's not true.
>
> Islam isn't peaceful. At no time in world history has Islam been at
> peace.

Right! We white people have been trying to steal thair land for 1000 yrs.

> For you to think it world be peaceful if only we'd bug out (allowing
> Evil to advance), is a veil of ignorance that passively sides with
> Evil.
> No comment?
>
> The Infidel is Progressives who stick their collective heads in the
> sand, pretending Evil doesn't exist as a wolf in sheep's clothing
>
> The Betrayal of Christianity Ravenous Wolves in Sheep's Clothing
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCT6orF4ubE

You are NOT Christian. You have NO understanding of what real
Christianity is. You are an EGO-christian, a christian Fascist, a
"believer" in the "christian" "master race", that is "favored" by "God".



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Re: Islam practiced as Mohammad would convince the most ignorant Infidel
a wolf is a sheep

Group: alt.politics.usa.republican Date: Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 1:00pm
(EDT-3) From: g...@itchynet.com (GSI)
On 2013-06-13 18:11:08 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig
said:
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:32:30 -0700, GSI <g...@itchynet.com> wrote:
On 2013-06-13 14:53:26 +0000, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig
said:
I have not read or heard anything by Robert Spencer but the people who
pay his bills are zionists who support war in the Middle East.
He was a Muslim who became enlightened, you fool. He turned from the
Dark Force which the 12th Imam will use to manufacture world chaos!
There is no one better to witness to the Evils of Islam as Mohammed
instructed on behalf of the Deceiver
Go now little Infie and enlighten your self before it's to late, the
Harvest is near
You are INSANE. You, and all the EGOISTS who think like you, are INSANE.
And that includes the Muslim EGOISTS. The USA has made these people into
enemies. WE are the ones on THEIR land. WE are the ones who are taking
their land from them.
You are a fool
  "The jihad that the Western world faces today is identical in its
motivations and goals to that which Europe managed to stave off almost a
thousand years ago ­ thanks in large part to the Crusades of which
the West is now ashamed. In this book, Robert Spencer tells the truth
that few in the U.S. or Europe wish to face. Today's jihad, as Spencer
illustrates here, is proceeding on two fronts: one of violence and
terror, and another of cultural shaming and the rewriting of history.
Here is a devastating riposte to that revisionism -- and a clarion call
for the defense of the West, before it is too late."
  -- Ibn Warraq, author of Why I Am Not A Muslim and editor of
Leaving Islam and What the Koran Really Says
There is NO Jihad, except what has been manufactured to feed the war
profiteers, the global ambitions of the Zionists, and the fantasies of
INSANE evangelicals. The middle-eastern countries are UNDEFENDABLE from
attack by American or northern European countries. Study Sun Tsu - "The
Art of War". Hot or warm SOUTHERN countries NEVER attack colder NORTHERN
countries. It's always the other way around. Nearly ALL war involves an
agressive Northern country attacking a peaceful, warm southern country
or territory.

===================

Bullshit. Look up the campaign of Sulimen the Magnificent against
Europe.
------------------------------

WE are the threat, in the middle-east.
The Muslim world knows we are coming for their oil, sooner or later,

===============

Why? We're almost totally oil independent, thanks to the Bakken Field in
North DAkota; we also purchase from Canada and Mexico; very little now
comes from the Middle East.
----------------------------
and the Jews want ALL of Palestine, and will do anything to get it,
even start WW3.
You are all SICK EGOISTS. You would find an "ENEMY" no matter what the
political situation was. EGOISTS have to have an "ENEMY" to point the
finger at, to HATE, so THEY can be "RIGHT" and the "ENEMY" can be
"WRONG". You are a ZIONIST Evangelical Christian, a combination of the
two most extreme forms of "religious" ARROGANCE on the planet. The
Muslim TALIBAN, and Brotherhood, are sane by comparison.
You have no Higher Moral Authority to base your statement on. As a
Progressive your philosophy is live and let live, no judgment of
character or culture.
The Crusades were to drive Evil (false religion let by the Deceiver and
his Legion of the Muslim Brotherhood), back and your blind to history.
As usual, EGO-Christians like yourself, have re-written history to
support your demonization of the Muslim world. Wikipedia:
"The first crusade was called by Pope Urban II in 1095 with the stated
goal of restoring Christian access to the holy places in and near
Jerusalem. This led to an intermittent 200-year struggle to reclaim the
Holy Land that ended in failure. The background was the
Arabâ€"Byzantine Wars, the Byzantineâ€"Seljuq Wars and the
defeat of the Byzantine army by Seljuk Turks at Manzikert in 1071. The
Norman conqueror Robert Guiscard's conquest of Byzantine territories
added to the problems of the Byzantine Empire. In an attempt to curtail
both dangers, its Emperor Alexios I sought to align Christian
nations against a common enemy, requested western aid, and Urban II in
turn enlisted western leaders in the cause.[2] Several hundred thousand
soldiers became Crusaders by taking vows;[3] the papacy granted them
plenary indulgences. The crusaders were Christians from all over Western
Europe under feudal rather than unified command. There were seven major
and numerous minor Crusades against Muslim territories. Rivalries among
both Christian and Muslim powers also led to alliances between religious
factions against their opponents, such as the Christian alliance with
the Islamic Sultanate of Rûm during the Fifth Crusade. When the
thousand years ago ­ thanks in large part to the Crusades of which
the West is now ashamed. In this book, Robert Spencer tells the truth
that few in the U.S. or Europe wish to face. Today's jihad, as Spencer
illustrates here, is proceeding on two fronts: one of violence and
terror, and another of cultural shaming and the rewriting of history.
Here is a devastating riposte to that revisionism -- and a clarion call
for the defense of the West, before it is too late."
-- Ibn Warraq, author of Why I Am Not A Muslim and editor of Leaving
Islam and What the Koran Really Says
"The value of SpencerÂ's book is twofold. He reminds us of the
consequences of our failure to come to grips with the message and
implications of Islam. And he warns against the spirit of masochistic
self-loathing that permeates the Western elite class. In a sane world
SpencerÂ's recommendations -- notably that the upholders of sharia
should be treated as political radicals and subjected to appropriate
supervision -- ­would not be deemed 'politically incorrect' but
eminently sensible."
-- Serge Trifkovic, author, Sword of the Prophet
No comment?
The Infidel is Progressives who stick their collective heads in the
sand, pretending Evil doesn't exist as a wolf in sheep's clothing
The Betrayal of Christianity Ravenous Wolves in Sheep's Clothing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCT6orF4ubE
You are NOT Christian. You have NO understanding of what real
Christianity is. You are an EGO-christian, a christian Fascist, a
"believer" in the "christian" "master race", that is "favored" by "God".

====================

Most of your babbling is incomprehensible or based on pure hatred.

--
"Never try to outstubborn a cat."--

Robert A. Heinlein--

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