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The ADL: America's Greatest Enemy, part 2
Welcome to American Dissident Voices. I'm your host, Kevin Alfred
Strom.
On last week's program, we uncovered the growing scandal surrounding
the organization known as the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith,
or ADL for short. The ADL, which likes to portray itself as a
humanitarian and civil rights organization working to oppose prejudice
against Jews and other racial minorities, and which has 31 regional
offices across the United States, has recently been implicated in the
theft of confidential police and government files on thousands of
innocent American citizens. These citizens were mostly ordinary
Americans, neither accused of or guilty of any crimes, but who were
either critical of the government of Israel, for which the ADL acts as
an illegally unregistered foreign agent, or who had criticized some
aspect of the multicultural, "one world" future planned for this
country by the forces behind the ADL. For these "thought crimes,"
these Americans had been placed on the ADL's enemies list, and were
considered fair game for the Jewish group's spying operation.
On today's program, I'll continue our coverage of the ADL - America's
greatest enemy, on American Dissident Voices.
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The ADL p.r. section are masters at portraying themselves as noble and
innocent victims of persecution, and at portraying anyone who
criticizes them as that ultimate in unanswerable smear words -
"anti-Semitic." With the cooperation of their close friends in the
media, this image of pious untouchability usually means that criticism
of the ADL is usually not allowed in print or on the air, and on the
rare occasions when it is, such criticism is most often characterized
at "hate" or "bigotry." But it didn't quite work that way this time.
What possibly tripped up the ADL and allowed this story some media
exposure, when police investigators got on the trail of the ADL
because certain police files in San Francisco had been discovered
missing, was the fact that the ADL did not restrict its spying to
so-called "right-wing extremists" and other American patriots. No,
they also infiltrated and gathered data on a number of Leftist and
Liberal groups, lest they stray too far from the ADL party line and
start doing unacceptable things, like honest Liberals occasionally do,
like criticizing Israel's genocide of Palestinians.
Many groups on the Left - and make no mistake about it, the Left is
very influential in academic and media circles in this country - had
regarded the ADL as an ally in their quest to change America and turn
her away from her Western, European roots toward a Third World future;
so many Leftists felt shocked and betrayed by the ADL when they
discovered that they were on the ADL's enemies list right along with
the National Alliance and other patriots. For example, the NAACP, the
Rainbow Coalition, the ACLU, the American Indian Movement, the
homosexual group ACT UP, anti-apartheid groups, and even the hard-left
Pacifica radio network were victims of ADL spying. So a few
journalists have broken this story of ADL spying and intrigue, and the
ADL is no longer an "untouchable" entity that cannot be criticized in
public.
A civil claim has been filed against the ADL by nineteen individuals
who claim that the Anti-Defamation League spy network violated their
privacy rights, including the wife of former Congressman Pete
McCloskey and the son of former Israeli defense minister Moshe Arens.
Former Representative McCloskey is the lawyer for the plaintiffs.
McCloskey, who was a critic of Israel and was the subject of ADL
smears when he ran for the U.S. Senate in 1982, said, according to a
Los Angeles Times story of 15th April, that the ADL should be
investigated to determine whether it is an agent of the Israeli
government. If it is, he said, it should register as all foreign
agents are required to do. Let me quote from that article:
"McCloskey said most of the plaintiffs believe that their careers have
been compromised by ADL attacks on them after they made anti-Israel
statements. Two people joining the suit who spoke Wednesday are
former television and radio commentators.
"Donald McGaffin, a former commentator at San Francisco television
station KPIX, said that after he questioned Israeli policy on
negotiating with highjackers in 1985, he was informed by his
management that the ADL 'had sent groups of people to try to get me
fired.'
"Colin Edwards said that he was fired from a job as a commentator on a
San Francisco FM radio station, KALW, after his boss told him the
group had protested his Middle Eastern commentaries."
Let me interject that such is standard procedure with the ADL, who are
not at all shy about using strong-arm tactics and intimidation,
threats, smears, and threatening the loss of advertising to any media
outlet that dares to criticize Israel, the ADL, or their agenda.
One indictment has been handed down in the case, against former San
Francisco Police intelligence detective Tom Gerard, who emerged from
hiding in the Philippines only to be arrested at San Francisco
International Airport on May 8th. Gerard apparently sold confidential
government files to the ADL's top West Coast spy, Roy Bullock, a
homosexual "art dealer" from San Francisco whose specialty was the
infiltration of Arab and patriotic American organizations and
reporting on their activities to the ADL.
How extensive is this spying by the ADL? We now know it includes
infiltration of groups on both the left and the right which the ADL
considers "enemies of Israel" or a threat to the ADL's worldwide
agenda. But did you know it reaches even into college classrooms of
professors who don't toe the line properly, as the ADL sees it?
Let's look at an article entitled "Spies for Zion," in the San
Francisco Weekly for 28th April, 1993:
"For decades the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith has gathered
secret files on critics of Israel. As the San Francisco District
Attorney prepares criminal charges against the group, will pressure
from prominent Jewish leaders derail the prosecution?
"Professor Dwight Simpson and the consul general of Israel stood in a
corner at the Fairmont Hotel discussing the Israeli-Palestinian
conflict amid a bright tinkling of glasses and soft murmuring of
voices. Halfway through the conversation at the cocktail party, the
Israeli diplomat, Harry Kney-Tal, said: 'By the way, that was a very
funny joke you told your class the other day.'
"The San Francisco State University international relations professor
didn't think much of the comment at first. But later that night, he
asked himself: 'How in the hell does the Israeli consul general know
the jokes I tell in my class?"
"As a critic of Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip,
Simpson had been targeted by Jewish students in the past. They
picketed his class on several occasions, handing out leaflets charging
that he's anti-Semitic and opposes a Jewish homeland.
"So the professor didn't have to wrestle with the consul general's
statement for long. He quickly surmised that Kney-Tal got his
information from the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith [or ADL
for short] by way of Jewish students who do political surveillance
work on campus for them. 'It's always confused me why they have to
spy on me,' Simpson said, 'My work isn't secret. My whole life is an
open book.'
"After a heated demonstration in 1989 that disrupted Simpson's class,
the Jewish Student Action committee was expelled from campus for
violating academic freedom. 'This is a serious problem in academia,'
Simpson added. 'Whenever you have monitoring and surveillance, it
stifles the free discussion of ideas....'
"Simpson is just one of thousands of people whose lives have been
affected by the far-ranging spy activities of the ADL. An 80-year-old
nonprofit whose professed mission is to fight anti-Semitism, the ADL
uses a less controversial term - 'fact-finding' - for its spying....
"ADL attorney Barbara Wahl denied any wrongdoing.... Wahl said she has
reviewed the ADL's files that prosecutors say contain illegally
gathered information. When asked if she saw anything illegal, she
paused and then refused to comment....
"Some close observers believe that political pressure will make it
impossible to prosecute the respected Jewish organization. 'Mark my
words, this is going to be obfuscated, obliterated, and desecrated,'
said one veteran police inspector. 'It's going to a classic study in
how things get covered up. You don't do Jewish people in San
Francisco. It's not PC. Especially when you have two U.S. Senators
who are Jewish (Barbara Boxer and Diane Feinstein) and the city's
chief of protocol is Dick Goldman (a prominent fundraiser in the
Jewish community).'
"Last week, Goldman called Police Chief Tony Ribera about the police
department's own internal investigation. After the call, the police
decided to exclude the ADL and Bullock from the probe....
"Last year, when federal authorities were considering funding a Black
Muslim group in Los Angeles after the Rodney King riots in Los
Angeles, the ADL's top 'fact-finder' in Washington, Mira Boland, sent
the word out to ADL informants that she was looking for a criminal
conviction on one of the Muslims to use in an op-ed piece in the
Washington Post."
What ADL spy Mira Boland got from her informant, who turned out to be
none other than David Gurvitz, who lately has been talking a lot to
the police and the FBI, was a copy of a classified FBI report on the
Nation of Islam which had recently been stolen from the San Francisco
FBI office. It was later recovered by police when they raided the San
Francisco offices of the ADL.
Interestingly enough, according to the Village Voice article by Robert
Friedman of 11th May, 1993, it was Mira Boland who had arranged the
trip to Israel, one of many arranged for the indoctrination of U.S.
police officers, of Mr. Tom Gerard, late of the Philippines and one of
the main conduits of stolen police and government information to the
ADL. According to this same article, Boland admitted at a 1990
criminal trial that she had, in typical ADL Newspeak, "shared
information" with members of the CIA at an invitation-only ADL
conference.
There is also an ADL connection to the Jonathan Pollard spy affair. I
quote again from the Village Voice:
"In 1987, the ADL came under FBI scrutiny in the wake of the Pollard
spy scandal. While assigned to the Navy's Anti-Terrorist Alert
Center, where he had access to the most closely-guarded U.S. secrets,
Jonathan Pollard stole thousands of pages of classified documents for
Israel, which, according to Federal prosecutors, 'could fill a room
the size of a large closet ... ten feet by six feet by six feet.'
Pollard's handler was Avi Sella, an Israeli air force colonel whose
wife worked for the New York ADL as a lawyer. Pollard later wrote to
friends that a prominent ADL leader was deeply involved in the Israeli
spy operation." (By the way, anti-American forces, for the last year
or so, have been quietly working to secure Pollard's release. Though
he betrayed the people of the United States, they consider him a
hero.)
A headline in the Village Voice article, I repeat the very liberal,
very Jewish Village Voice article screams out the truth at us:
"The Anti-Defamation League has become the Jewish thought police."
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Let's take a look at the agenda of the ADL for America. They are
experts in the art of making subversive aims sound innocent or
humanitarian - but listen carefully, and I think even the most
skeptical should begin to see that their drive for so-called "hate
crime" legislation is really a drive to stifle all criticism of their
program. And their program is to change the racial and cultural
character of this country to that of a Third World nation, so that we
can more easily be incorporated into a one-world government. With
those goals held firmly in mind, let's take a look at a recent article
from the Pomona Star-Ledger, entitled "Stockton Coalition presses
Clinton to reduce bigotry, promote diversity." I might add that
forming a coalition with well-meaning Liberal dupes is both the
standard ADL and Communist technique for disguising their own programs
as supposedly coming from "the whole community."
I quote: "A group of civic, religious, school, and college leaders has
called on... Clinton to promote cultural diversity and reduce
prejudice.
"Named the Stockton State College/Community Human Relations Coalition,
the organization wrote to Clinton last month with recommendations
developed during a more than three-hour meeting.
"At that session were representatives from student groups, the college
administration, local governments and schools, the Jewish War
Veterans, a church and several synagogues, a day care center, and the
Anti-Defamation League. Several of those participating came from the
college's Holocaust Resource Center.
"In explaining why they wrote, they noted that the members of the
coalition "are committed to the provision of strong and vibrant
leadership in the pursuit of harmony and understanding throughout all
levels of our multicultural and diverse society. ...We strongly
believe that racism, bigotry, and intolerance have reigned too long in
America and have become too acceptable to be tolerated any longer.'
"...in the field of education is their wish that Clinton 'educate the
American people about cultural diversity' and 'offer courses in
prejudice reduction in communities.'
"Other recommendations are to 'create a national initiative' through a
President's Council on Hate Crimes and Prejudice Reduction, to
strengthen the Civil Rights Commission, and conduct a prejudice
reduction audit....
"Among the aspects of institutional change they want Clinton to
achieve are:
"'Encourage the Secretary of Education that multiculturalism be taught
at all levels of elementary and secondary schools.' (Translation:
Out with Washington and the Continental Army and in with bogus African
history and the Sandinistas.)
"'Leverage federal funding to compliance with multicultural
inclusion.' (Translation: Schools that still have mostly traditional
American students, and still teach in one language instead of 13
including Hindustani and Swahili, will lose their federal funds.)
"'Encourage all businesses to have training on multiculturalism and
cultural diversity.' (Translation: Government contracts and
regulations will be used as weapons against private businessmen who do
not enthusiastically promote the multicultural agenda of the ADL
planners.)
"'Recognize the efforts of groups working in the nation to alleviate
intolerance, bigotry, and racism.' (Translation: Give taxpayer's
money and policy-making power to the ADL and its various front
groups.)
"'Encourage the federal government to be a leader in cultural
diversity throughout its ranks.' (No translation necessary.)
And "'Establish a President's Award for Social Justice and Unity for
persons, groups, and organizations who have achieved some success in
reducing prejudice, bigotry, and racism.'" (Translation: Traitors to
America's traditional heritage and values are to rewarded and elevated
as heroes in the sick world the ADL is building in what used to be
called America.)
We know what the ADL's agenda is. We know that they broke the law
routinely, as did the police departments that collaborated with them.
It was common knowledge that the ADL was getting paid large sums of
government money to "train" - that is, to indoctrinate - police
officers and government officials, not just over a period of years,
but decades. A report by Richard Cotten, entered into the
Congressional Record by Congressman John Rarick, indicates that this
has been going on since at least 1963, and furthermore indicates that
a large number of the police officers involved in this so-called
"sensitivity training" knew or suspected they were being brainwashed,
in their own words, possibly by those with a "Communist agenda." How
has the ADL been able to get away with it until now?
The answer lies in two facts - facts which also explain many other
things about the decline of America.
The first fact is that the major media in this country are largely
owned or controlled by the same element that controls the ADL, and
they have the same agenda. Until just a few weeks ago, when a few
brave reporters dared to breathe the forbidden words that the San
Francisco District Attorney was saying (all of them, I might add, at
the risk of their careers, which may now be much shortened), the ADL
was untouchable, and even its most outrageous, pro-Communist, and
subversive activities were ignored, and any reportage it got was only
the most fulsome praise. The ADL was made respectable by the
controlled media.
The second important fact is that the government officials and police
officers who condoned ADL manipulation and control of their
departments, were typical unprincipled careerists, who valued
respectability above all other things, even their oaths of office and
their country. If the TV said that the ADL were public-spirited
humanitarians, and if the TV said that patriots who were trying to
expose the anti-American activities of the ADL were evil bigots and
haters, why the choice was clear to these public servants. They chose
to hobnob with the ADL, and would rather have had a limb amputated
than be associated with the patriots.
Well, friends, a small crack has now appeared in the great wall of
lies and brainwashing that has so far obscured the subversive
activities of the ADL. This crack is an opportunity for patriots to
educate others, and to help bring about a great patriotic renewal to
this land. The truth is that most Americans don't agree with the
agenda of the ADL, and would be horrified if they knew the extent to
which that group has spied on and manipulated the minds of their
fellow Americans.
Won't you help us spread the truth to as many people as possible this
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An Alliance of Mental Midgets
With their Natvan Bookstore- Like Porno Books- Not sold in stores.
National Alliance Failure
These White Supremacists, born with all the advantages of living in a
White society, could not succeed in a free competative society.
Newcomers to our shores, new American citizens, worked harder,
struggled harder,invested harder, studied harder and eventally prospered
and grew. The Racists were livid with jealousy and fear. While they were
busy burning down churches, wrote & distributed hate literature the
other
Americans passed them by. This nation is built on the blood and toil of
American Jews, Poles,Russians, Italians,Irish,German,Scottish,Greek,
French,Chinese,Japanese,Native Americans and dozens of other
nationalities. None are better or worse than any other to a real
American.
African-Americans came here mostly as descendents of cruel slavery.
They were kept back from opportunity by forbidding racial laws and job
opportunity. Racists kept dead Black war heroes from White cemeteries.
National Alliance with their “Crooked Burning Cross” Master Race Jew
Baiting, Anti-Black,Anti-Oriental,Anti-Foreigner, Anti-Female devisive
losers are back.
In January I stated below the list showing their failure to
contribute to our society.
Have they done ANYTHING since?
They have contributed nothing to this country except hate.
They build no factories,
They build no industries,
They build no hospitals,
They employ no Americans, they only hate.
They are UNWANTED
No recognized church,
No recognized newspaper,
No recognized magazine,
No government organization,
No congressman,
No senator
Would have anything to do with this hate group.
Herman
NSWPP
Fourth in the series of articles I believe may actually have
triggered the NA lawsuit. - WS
[October 2nd, 1996]
YES, VIRGINIA, THERE IS A MOVEMENT
I've said before that our boy stukach is not important in
himself, but as a case study. As a case study, there is one of his claims
that needs to be examined, specifically that "there is no Movement".
Since he's not completely coherent as to what he bases this statement on,
we have to assume that in essence what he is saying is that: "I did not
find satisfaction in the National Alliance, some Skinheads beat the crap
out of me, and George Burdi said unkind things to me, therefore there is
no White movement." As you can see, it's something of a non sequitur.
This assertion of his also begs the question that if there is no
Movement, why has he spent the last six months slagging off something
that doesn't exist and trying to persuade other people to leave it? Our
offense seems to be that we THINK we exist and out of his immensely
superior intellect, the boy has kindly condescended to set us right. Gee,
thanks, kid.
The boy's reasoning, as far as I follow it from his web page, is
kind of like Descartes on muscatel: "You think you are, therefore you are
not. I don't think you are, therefore you are not. You are what I think
you are, see? But I am not what you think I am, because you're all
losers....Who are you? Why do you think you are wearing those white
coats?...What are you doing with that net...?"
The fact is that with this assertion of the boy's we are entering
flat earth territory, since there quite clearly IS a Movement and has
been since time immemorial in one form or another, whenever and wherever
the forces of light have struggled with the darkness. It has many
facets---political, social, economic, religious, military, industrial,
scientific, technological, artistic, you name it. But our Movement is,
and has always been, united by certain timeless and recognizable ideas of
freedom, faith in God and in a noble destiny for Man, respect for
heritage and culture, belief in the worth of the individual as opposed to
the mass, and later on race. In addition, every time such historic evils
as collectivism, Marxist socialism, the destruction of property and
religion, state-sponsored sodomy and the elevation of the Jews to power
have appeared, there has always been fierce opposition.
When and where we first coalesced as an "us" some of us today
might recognize is open to debate. I'm going to be completely arbitrary
here and assert that the first recognizable resistance "movement" that a
modern-day National Socialist would feel he had something in common with
was in France in 1794-95, what was called the JEUNESSE DOREE or Gilded
Youth.
This was a loosely organized movement or fraternity of thousands
of young men and some women as well, the girls being called
MERVEILLEUSES. Sort of Byronic Stormtroopers, the Guilded Youth operated
mostly in Paris but in also in some other major cities. The
crypto-Bolshevik tyrant Robespierre and his faction, the bloodiest
left-wing murderers in history until Lenin came along, had been
overthrown in July of 1794 and replaced with a bureaucratic committee
called the Directory, but it was very shaky, and in the months
following Robespierre's fall there was a terrible risk that the
ultra-Left Jacobin faction in the National Assembly, called the Mountain
(what we would call Communists) would take over again and resume the
Reign of Terror, the hideous slaughter by guillotine which killed
something on the order of 80,000 French men and women in a three year
period---not much by Leninist standards, but the technology for Leftist
mass murder was pretty crude in the eighteenth century.
The Gilded Youth, so-called because of their odd foppish dress,
also carried heavy cudgels or walking sticks, and over the next year
fought in the streets repeatedly with the Reds of the day. They closed
the Jacobin clubs by force, beat back various Leftist coup attempts and
mob attacks on the government, until basically the Directory was able to
reform and revitalize the army as a loyal instrument of defense under a
certain General Bonaparte. I mention this obscure bit of history only to
demonstrate that our Movement did not simply appear sometime in the
1960s; our ideals have a very long and colorful and---dare I use the
word?---diverse history, in many respects far older and more intricate
and interesting than the history of the collectivist, Judaic Left.
But this, presumably, wasn't what the boy is talking about when
he asserts that "there is no Movement" today. Basically what he's saying
is that we're all horrible nasty people who wouldn't recognize his genius
and hurt his feelings, and besides we're all losers, so there is no
Movement, so there!
Now, let's get something very clear. This boy's INITIAL
complaints and criticisms regarding the National Alliance, the behavior
of Dr. William L. Pierce, and the obnoxious nature of the Skinhead
subculture were, and are, perfectly well founded and criticisms which
need to be made, so long as they are offered out of principle and love
for our race and hope for our future, not personal pique and resentment.
This point I concede, lock, stock, and barrel. The boy did not become a
stukach until he crossed the line into active assistance of the racial
enemy, specifically Nizkor and the liberal news media. But to say that
"there is no Movement" because one particular branch is corrupt is like
saying "this particular preacher Reverend Billy Bob Doaks steals the
collection money which he then spends on booze and women, therefore there
is no God."
Our Movement is not a person, a group of persons, or even a
single ideology. I have never questioned the right of Klansmen, Christian
Identity people, Odinists, Right-to-Lifers, Second Amendment
people,Constitutionalists, and Sovereignty people to be included in
our broad tent; I simply believe and claim that National Socialism is and
should be the lead violin in the orchestra and that the Party of George
Lincoln Rockwell is and should be PRIMUS INTER PARES. (But then I would
claim that, wouldn't I?) The point I am making is that the Movement is
comprised of a whole interwoven strand of IDEAS, not people---and to
claim that it doesn't exist is as stupid as claiming that Christianity
doesn't exist or algebra doesn't exist or Irish folk music doesn't
exist. All of these things exist, INDEPENDENTLY OF INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE.
So do we. Imperfect, yes. Oh, nuts! It's immensely worse than
that. Look up "imperfection" in a dictionary and you'll find a
cross-reference to "see American White racial nationalist movement". Yes,
we are riddled with problems from top to bottom, the primary one being
The Great Paradox:
"THE CAUSE IS SO RIGHT...THE PEOPLE IN IT ARE SO WRONG."
I've said that before and I'm going to keep on saying it, because
it is one of the most important things anyone can grasp about our present
situation. But the Great Paradox reverses itself, into something I might
call the Saving Grace:
"JUST BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ARE WRONG, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE CAUSE
IS NOT RIGHT."
The boy understands The Great Paradox, but the Saving Grace has
eluded him. Actually, there's quite a bit that has eluded him.
One more bulletin on this topic tomorrow and we'll wrap up this
particular line of discourse. It's time we discussed some concrete
measures on how to deal with situations like this.
-WS
[The National Alliance filed suit against me on October 30th,
1996 and on March 24th, 1997 requested that the court issue an injunction
against me effectively stripping me of my First Amendment rights and
banning me from using the Internet. They failed to obtain their
injunction on April 25th, 1997 and are currently trying to figure out
what to do next. - WS]
grea...@mindspring.com
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Fourth in the series of articles I believe may actually have
> triggered the NA lawsuit. - WS
Why don't you put your Swastika up front so we can all see what you
NSWPP represents?
And why do you post to the Republican newsgroup? Do you really expect to
find Nazi membership there?
Herman
Omri Schwarz
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Fourth in the series of articles I believe may actually have
> triggered the NA lawsuit. - WS
>
> [October 2nd, 1996]
>
> YES, VIRGINIA, THERE IS A MOVEMENT
>
> The fact is that with this assertion of the boy's we are entering
> flat earth territory, since there quite clearly IS a Movement and has
> been since time immemorial in one form or another, whenever and wherever
> the forces of light have struggled with the darkness. It has many
> facets---political, social, economic, religious, military, industrial,
> scientific, technological, artistic, you name it. But our Movement is,
> and has always been, united by certain timeless and recognizable ideas of
> freedom, faith in God and in a noble destiny for Man, respect for
> heritage and culture, belief in the worth of the individual as opposed to
> the mass, and later on race. In addition, every time such historic evils
> as collectivism, Marxist socialism, the destruction of property and
Harold, what the Hell?? You advocate a repeat of the most collectivist
society mankind has ever seen, and yet you talk like this? Get it
through your head: You Are Not a Libertarian.
> religion, state-sponsored sodomy and the elevation of the Jews to power
> have appeared, there has always been fierce opposition.
"I'm mad, and I'm not gonna take it anymore. I'm getting a smarmy
bumper sticker."
>
--
When I pronounce the word Future,/the first syllable already belongs to
the
past./When I pronounce the word Silence,/I destroy it./When I pronounce
the
word Nothing,/I make something no nonbeing can hold./ (Wislawa
Szymborska)
Omri Schwarz (.sig snarfed from Gregory Taylor)
Patrick L. Humphrey
>Fourth in the series of articles I believe may actually have
>triggered the NA lawsuit. - WS
>
>[October 2nd, 1996]
>
> YES, VIRGINIA, THERE IS A MOVEMENT
...and an LD-50 dose of Kaopectate will fix *that* little problem of yours,
skinhead.
--PLH, that's about all this "NSWPP" trash amounts to, anyway, as far as I can
see
Sigismundo Malatesta
En articulo <33af5ad3....@news.flanet.com>,% dice...
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>American Dissident Voices is a world wide radio program which
>deals with topics of interest that concern people of European
>descent.
National Alliance is prejudiced against Italians and does not consider
the nationality who brought civilisation to Western Europe, the nation
that basically established white civilisation, without whom the rest of
Europe ( Greece excepted, as well as areas within the ancient Greek
world that are now part of Albania, Turkey,Fyrom, and Bulgaria thanks to
treachery ; to a much lesser extent certain Mediterranean coastal areas
of Spain also excepted ) would be no different than Africa ; they do not
consider that nation to be on the same level of superiority as nations
on the northern fringes of Europe who were among the last nations in
Europe exposed to western civilisation and indeed who were considered
outside of the mainstream of western Europe until the late 18th century
( just read Voltaire if you don't believe that Scandinavia was not
considered a part of the west, although I have nothing against nords
other than their languages being gibberish to my ears ), which shows
their historical ignorance. Covingstein also says that they hold slavs
in contempt. Since all these " white nationalists " seem to agree that
Jews are not descendants of the ancient Hebrews, they would count as a
European people as well, since unquestionably the Ashkenazim have a
heavy amount of Germanic blood and genes, even if one accepts that Jews
came out of Israel, even Moses " Rambam " Maimonides, the great poet and
philosopher of medieval Al-Andalus, said that the Ashkenazim were
half-breeds, half Jewish and half German. OTOH the Sephardim have a
common ancestry with the gentile Andaluces of southern Spain, as the
Jewish population in this area was very ancient ( it dated back to
pre-Roman times in Malaga, Gibraltar, Sexi <the modern Almunecar in the
province of Granada >, Urci <the modern Almeria> and Cartagena,
according to Howard Fast's History of the Jews )and very large, and the
conversos - those who converted to Catholicism rather than have to leave
Spain in 1492 - assimilated very quickly, especially in the area of the
Guadalquivir Valley ( source : "El siglo de oro andaluz",Madrid:
Historia 16 ), into the general population. It is accepted that the
Andaluces have considerable Semitic descent, from the Jews, Moors,
Phoenicians, and other middle eastern peoples who passed through this
area. Some have mistakenly thought them to be Moors, with a considerable
amount of Jewish descent, but the reality is that their ancestry is
highly mixed which accounts for them being the most physically beautiful
people in all of the world, who in spite of the poverty that has
afflicted the area since the 17th century - in some areas since the
reconquista - have proven to be as highly accomplished as any European
people ( in this century alone Picasso and Garcia Lorca come to mind
among hundreds of names ).I am sure that NA does not regard the peoples
of southern Spain, or for that matter any Spaniards, even the purely
Celtic Gallegos and Asturianos( BTW among the most backwards regions of
Spain ) , as being sufficiently " European ".But this is getting off the
subject.
The reason why I'm posting this has to do with the whole ADL issue.
According to Covert Action, the ADL spied on any number of Jewish
organisations, not only radicals of the left and right but also the
Simon Wiesenthal Center ! Couldn't they have gotten any information they
would have wanted from the Wiesenthal Center without having to spy on
them ? I wonder...
>
>There is also an ADL connection to the Jonathan Pollard spy affair. I
>quote again from the Village Voice:
>
>"In 1987, the ADL came under FBI scrutiny in the wake of the Pollard
>spy scandal. While assigned to the Navy's Anti-Terrorist Alert
>Center, where he had access to the most closely-guarded U.S. secrets,
>Jonathan Pollard stole thousands of pages of classified documents for
>Israel, which, according to Federal prosecutors, 'could fill a room
>the size of a large closet ... ten feet by six feet by six feet.'
>Pollard's handler was Avi Sella, an Israeli air force colonel whose
>wife worked for the New York ADL as a lawyer. Pollard later wrote to
>friends that a prominent ADL leader was deeply involved in the Israeli
>spy operation." (By the way, anti-American forces, for the last year
>or so, have been quietly working to secure Pollard's release. Though
>he betrayed the people of the United States, they consider him a hero.)
were related to US weapons sales and aid to Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
Pollard's information helped save US, British, and other western lives
during the Gulf War, as well as helping Israel destroy Hussein's nuclear
program. Pollard was prosecuted because of the influence of Secretary of
Defence Casper Weinburger, the most pro-Arab Reagan appointee despite
being half-Jewish. This information would have been highly damaging to
Weinburger who would have been probably tried for treason himself if
Pollard was not. Pollard should have recieved a medal rather than have
remained in prison. He should certainly be freed as history has shown
that he was right in pegging Hussein as an enemy of the western world.
Oh I forgot - you NA idiots LIKE Hussein for his emulation of
Nebuchadnezzar and hope that he gets to destroy Israel and enslave all
its Jews someday. What sick fucks.
-Sigismundo Malatesta, el rey de los chulos
" California is an Italy without culture " - Oscar Wilde
" Good and evil are one " - Heraclitus
NSWPP
THE POLITICAL PROGRAM OF THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST WHITE PEOPLE'S PARTY
The National Socialist White People's Party is a political
organization of Aryan men and women in the United States and Canada, of
all ages and social backgrounds, who recognize that National Socialism is
the only world view capable of advancing the vital interests of the Aryan
(White) people in a world which is becoming increasingly non-White. The
Party fights for the creation of a National Socialist Aryan Republic on
the North American continent. Ultimately, the Party struggles along with
our many comrades the world over for the creation of what the philosopher
Francis Parker Yockey called the Imperium, a world order of peace,
stability, progress and fulfillment based on the supremacy of the White
race over the entire planet.
I. AN ARYAN REPUBLIC
We demand the establishment of an independent Aryan republic on
North American soil wherein only Aryans (White persons of unmixed,
non-Semitic, European descent) shall reside or hold citizenship. This
Aryan Republic shall be a free and sovereign nation whose government and
citizens shall exercise full control over their internal affairs, their
economy, their culture, and their foreign relations.
II. NATIONAL SOCIALISM
The Aryan Republic shall be established under a new Constitution
as a one-party National Socialist state. All laws, government, and state
policy shall be based on the principles of National Socialism as outlined
in the spoken and written works of the Fuhrer Adolf Hitler and his
political contemporaries, the spoken and written works of Commander
George Lincoln Rockwell, the Cotwswolds Declaration of 1962, and other
historical expositional documents of the National Socialist world view.
This true New Order will seek to create a classless, prosperous, and
secure society wherein Aryan man can attain his highest personal,
creative, and spiritual potential.
III. CITIZENSHIP
No person who is not of unmixed, non-Semitic, Caucasian European
ancestry shall reside anywhere within the Aryan Republic. Citizenship in
the Aryan Republic is a privilege and not a right, but a privilege which
shall be open to all Aryan peoples of the world regardless of their
country of birth or national origin. Citizenship shall not be bestowed at
birth as is the case with liberal democracy, but shall be earned in
adulthood through military service, by civic service to the state, or by
demonstrated worthiness and value to the racial community.
IV. RIGHTS IN A RACIAL COMMUNITY
Under the National Socialist state all inhabitants of the Aryan
Republic, both citizen and non-citizen, shall enjoy from birth the
following inalienable rights:
*The right to decent, livable housing, including a right to
affordable home ownership;
*The right to keep and enjoy the fruits of their labors free
from excessive and confiscatory taxation;
*The right to gainful and productive employment at a living wage
sufficient to support self and family;
*The right to quality medical care free of charge, for any and
all disabilities or illnesses or health problems;
*The right to personal safety from criminal robbery, assault, and
victimization;
*The right to a clean and healthy environment;
*The right to hold and to practice any and all private religious
beliefs which do not infringe upon the rights of others, or which do not
constitute political activity disguised as religion, as well as the
concomitant right to raise children in the religious beliefs and
traditions of their parents;
*The right to keep and to bear arms, which is the immemorial
birthright and mark of a free people as well as the strongest safeguard
of the community against crime and oppression;
*The right to an all-White cultural and spiritual environment
free of the polluting and debilitating influence of distorted and
primitive Judaic and negroid cultures.
V. THE INSTITUTION OF THE FAMILY
The basic building block of the new National Socialist society
must be the traditional, nuclear two-parent family, with the gainfully
employed husband and father as head of the family and the home-making
wife and mother as its heart. In order to re-establish and protect this
ancient and vital social institution, the following policies will be
implemented by the Aryan Republic:
*Interest free state mortgage loans will be made available to
young married couples in order to allow them immediate home ownership.
Balances owing on these loans will be reduced in 25% increments upon the
birth of the first healthy child, 20% for the second child, and 15% for
the birth of all subsequent children, thus making possible a high
repayment moratorium percentage;
*Prenatal and pediatric medical care will be prioritized and
universally available;
*Property taxes on family homes containing growing children will
be abolished;
*Divorce will not be abolished, but will be made sufficiently
legally difficult so that such a serious step will be undertaken only in
the gravest and most incontestable cases of irretrievable marital
breakdown;
*Sexual perversions such as homosexuality, lesbianism,
transvestism, feminism, pornography, paedophilia, and the traffick in
materials relating to all the preceding will be permanently suppressed;
*Abortions will be performed only on foot of a court order in
cases where the unborn child is determined by medical science to be
deformed or mentally retarded. Abortion of a healthy Aryan child will be
legally classed as a premeditated homicide and will be dealt with
accordingly.
VI. A NEW EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM
The Aryan Republic will establish a comprehensive system of
public education which will place strong emphasis on the physical and
moral development of our young people, as well as on academic achievement
and the training and disciplining of their intellects, and which will
instill in every young Aryan an all-important body of racial values. The
young people of our race are our future, and it is the duty of the state
to see to their development in a thorough and well-rounded manner,
recognizing that in the long run a healthy mind can only dwell in a
healthy body, and that along with the education of the young mind must
go rigorous physical and character training.
VII. AN HONEST AND EFFICIENT ECONOMY
We believe that the proper function of the economy is to serve
the needs of the people, not to make profits for big bankers and
multi-national corporations. We also believe that actual production is
the only legitimate basis for wealth, not speculation or the manipulation
of money and pieces of paper. Accordingly, the Aryan Republic will
create an honest and self-sufficient economic system based on the
productive capacity of the Aryan worker, which will guarantee conditions
of full employment and price stability. All banking and credit
institutions will be placed under public control as well as all the
utilities and transportation facilities. Usury will be legally prohibited
and all conglomerate holdings and accumulations of usurious profit will
be confiscated and returned to the people through public institutions of
community service and value. Basic industries will be operated under a
system of profit sharing. A system of interest-free loans for farmers,
small businessmen, and families will be instituted.
VIII. THE FAMILY FARM
A healthy and productive farming community is essential to the
functioning of any rational and stable society. Accordingly, agriculture
in the Aryan Republic will be based on the institution of the family farm
rather than on the mass plantation-style agribusiness approach utilized
by the present regime. The farmer's land and the fruits of his labor must
remain inviolate; the real value of the family farm lies not only in the
production of food, but in providing social, racial, and environmental
stability while serving as a constant source of spiritual renewal for
man in close rapport with Nature. The Aryan Republic will abolish all
forms of agricultural commodity speculation and provide interest-free
loans for farm equipment, fuel, seed and supplies, fodder, vetrinary
care for livestock, etc.
IX. CULTURE AND SCIENCE
The Aryan Republic acknowledges that the state bears a special
responsibility to protect and promote our racial cultural heritage, and
remove all alien influences from our art, our music, our literature, our
drama and our cinema. This must be done in order that the innate artistic
and cultural genius of our people can define and express itself without
interference from the current Judaeo-liberal forces which have seized
cultural hegemony throughout the Western world. Ideas can uplift and
ennoble, or they can poison and degrade the mind. It is the duty of the
state to protect its citizens from anti-White hate propaganda and
spiritual pollution just as much as it is to defend them against physical
and military aggression.
The Aryan Republic will encourage and invest in pure science, in
research, and in the exploration of outer space as a matter of national
policy. National Socialism understands that the benefits which will
accrue from such pure scientific efforts will in the long run far
outweigh any consideration of immediate cost.
X. FOREIGN POLICY
The foreign policy of the Aryan Republic will be based solely on
the long term interests of the Aryan race world wide. In order
effectively to pursue such a policy, National Socialism will create and
maintain the world's most powerful military force, fully capable of
repelling any aggression from without such as that which destroyed the
Third Reich, and capable as well of protecting the interests of our
people abroad. It will be the mission of the Republic's foreign policy
to serve as a friend and protective shield to all Aryan peoples the
world over who may suffer from persecution, discrimination, or
threatened genocide by the racial enemy.
XI. DEFENSE
The Aryan Republic will establish universal conscription and
military training for all young men, beginning in the public schools at
a very early age. All men between the ages of 18 and 50 will be part of
the military reserve except in cases of the most serious medical
exemption. Military training and the instillment of martial pride and
tradition in the young will be a major aspect of the educational system.
The ancient and honorable profession of the soldier will be once more
established within the community as one of the highest regard and
respect, and veterans of the armed forces will be accorded a superior
political and economic status within the community.
XII. A BETTER RACE
It will be the imperative duty of the National Socialist state
aggressively to strive for the continual improvement of the Aryan race
through positive eugenic measures, especially through encouraging the
propagation of the best elements of our population in every way possible.
Steps will also be taken to halt the spread of hereditary defects and
racially impure blood within the gene pool of the racial community. Our
racial resources provide the biological basis for all true progress, and
must not only be nurtured but improved, in order for Aryan man to attain
the highest potential development both physically and mentally.
Finally, it is the duty of the state to take an active part in
the spiritual life of the racial community. Our people must be turned
away from their present path of materialism, cynicism, and egotism and
become inspired by the racial idealism and rebirth of traditional Aryan
values. By these values we mean such ideals as the strong nuclear family
unit; the love and cherishing of White children; personal responsibility
for self and family; fortitude in adversity; physical courage in the
face of the enemy; a sense of patriotism and racial community;
generosity to those of our race who are sick or hurt or in need;
and the concept of rights and privileges as the earned rewards of
social responsibility fulfilled.
#
NATIONAL SOCIALIST WHITE PEOPLE'S PARTY * P.O. BOX 9444 * CHAPEL HILL,
N.C. 27515-9444
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[deranged tirade snipped]
"Illegitimi no Carborundem"
Will Williams
NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Fourth in the series of articles I believe may actually have
>triggered the NA lawsuit. - WS
>[October 2nd, 1996]
> YES, VIRGINIA, THERE IS A MOVEMENT
[snip crap]
> [The National Alliance filed suit against me on October 30th, 1996...
Lie #1: I, as plaintiff sued you, the Defendant. NA is not a party
to this suit, although Dr. Pierce, NA founder and Chairman, has given
me his full blessing, but no Alliance financial backing. I don't need
it for such an easy case. Mark Perry, my attorney, took the case pro
bono once he saw what Defendant Covington had been publishing about me
in pro se statements. Mark is a hard-core civil libertarian and a
no-nonsense technician. He is not a racist.
>...and on March 24th, 1997 requested that the court issue an injunction
>against me effectively stripping me of my First Amendment rights and
>banning me from using the Internet...
Oh really?
I see you posted this article to 25 or more newsgroups at one swell
foop. Wow! I hope you'll come back and explain this apparant
inconsistency which you posted to a measly three groups listed below
less than a week ago:
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You, Defendant Covington, say:
"There is no "exponential growth". The stolen NA mailing list,
which I am required by a court injunction to pretend sprouted wings
and flew out of the window of Pierce's office one day..."
"Winston Smith" [Harold Covington]
www.nswpp.org
>...They failed to obtain their
>injunction on April 25th, 1997 and are currently trying to figure out
>what to do next. - WS]
QUESTION: Which is it? Are you "required by a court injunction" or
did " 'they' [sic] fail to obtain 'their' [sic] injunction?"
This is a small point, but could establish that you are a little
careless about how you are representing our little search for truth.
I hope the thousands of good people you are attempting to enlighten
and influence will press you on this important detail, Defendant
Covington. I already know the truth.
Have a good day! ;oP
Will W. Williams, Plaintiff
Williams vs. Covington
Jim Bowery
Back in the days when I was still willing to give the political process a
chance, I wrote the following white paper, which was the distillation of
what I learned from my interactions with the political and policy making
processes. I think it addresses many of the economic concerns that are
addressed by socialism, both international (commie) and national (nazi).
I have respected colleagues who prefer the ideas of Henry George to the
ideas presented below, and to be honest, I suspect that if practically
implemented the two approaches would turn out to be isomorphic. In any
case, I wanted to make clear the fact that Henry George's ideas were
effectively suppressed by the media saturation of "Das Kapital" in the
cosmopolitan centers of the West, and that if they were appropriately
developed, they might be as good, if not better than, the ideas I present
below.
I stand by my decision to avoid engagement in the political process,
believing technical innovation, strategically targeted and executed, is a
more profitable and ultimately moral route for the investment of the
energies of those of northern european heritage. I present these ideas
for the benefit of those who are still engaged in politics, perhaps
that they may hasten their abandonment of what I believe to be a
confidence game perpetrated by a genetic algorithm distributed within the
body politic.
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Date: Thu, 26 Mar 92 15:03:49 PST
A Net Asset Tax
Based On
The Net Present Value Calculation
and
Market Democracy
By James Bowery
The Coalition for Free Enterprise
INTRODUCTION
In nature, predators benefit prey by feeding on the weakest
members of the population, thus strengthening the gene pool of
the prey. Parasites are far less discriminating than predators.
Parasites are careful to avoid killing their individual hosts by
focusing on the vital fluids, rather than killing for tissue.
Parasites are beneficial to neither the individual host nor to
the host's gene pool.
In his opus, "The Discourses" Niccolo Machiavelli counsels the
founder of any new state to present tolerable challenges to the
people at all times, so as to strengthen their character. Either
the founder should locate in an austere land where nature herself
will provide discipline, or, if locating in a fertile area, the
founder should impose measured austerities on the people himself.
Machiavelli specifically mentions taxation as an attractive tool.
There is hidden morality in Machiavelli's apparent ruthlessness:
At each stage of life, you have passed beyond dependence on that
which raised you to that stage. If you continue accepting what
was once given to you, it weakens rather than strengthens you.
If we follow Machiavelli's wisdom and are consistent with the
ecological model of predator/prey dynamics, we should avoid
parasitic tax systems which drain off productivity in the form of
income, capital gains, sales and value added. We should instead
look for a tax policy that acts as a predator, applying
disciplinary pressure to the economy by measuring how effectively
business entities are utilizing their "living tissue" or net
assets. We should do so without violating nascent businesses and
families, as these are the fountainhead of wealth and value.
To that end, this white paper argues for the adoption of the
following policy reform:
The government should tax net assets, in excess of levels
typically protected under personal bankruptcy, at a rate equal to
the rate of interest on the national debt, thereby eliminating
other forms of taxation. Creator-owned intellectual property
should be exempt.
The use of government-backed debt instruments as a baseline for
the calculation of asset value in the net present value formula
indicates the existence of a de facto negative tax on net assets
pervading all sectors of the economy.
This situation, which provides a form of "capital welfare", sets
off a familiar chain of events:
Centralization of net assets leads to corporate central planning
and monopolistic practices in the private sector with a drop in
wealth-creating entrepreneurial investment. The consequent loss
of equity in the general population, particularly in families
with children and new businesses, has a tragic and predictable
result:
Structural economic decline and social decay.
This flaw in the capitalist system has been exploited by the
enemies of free enterprise throughout history. But the defenders
of capitalism have been disturbingly silent except to address the
weaker arguments of capitalism's detractors.
The economic policy described herein, including the above tax
reform and associated deregulation of financial institutions,
repair this flaw in the foundation of our free enterprise system.
Further, it provides immediate relief from the current economic
disease afflicting our society, in a virtually revenue neutral
manner (more than $1 trillion in tax revenue per year), while
laying the ground work for optimal economic growth far into the
future.
CAPITAL WELFARE
"The rich get richer" is an old saying based on a widely used
mathematical formula in business economics:
The net present value formula.
The net present value formula allows asset value to be calculated
as the size of a low-risk loan that one could pay off (amortize)
with the after-tax profit stream generated by an asset, adjusted
for risk. This means an asset's present value is proportional to
the estimated wealth it will generate in the future divided by
the prevailing rate of return on low-risk debt instruments.
For example, a patent might be expected to produce some profile
of royalties over a period of time -- ramping up as the
technology comes into full production and then declining to
nothing as the technology becomes obsolete or the patent expires.
When multiplied by the probability of achieving that expectation
(adjusting for risk) this royalty stream is equivalent to a
series of payments on a low-risk loan. The size of the low-risk
loan that could be amortized by the after-tax real profit stream
is the patent's "net present value".
The most obvious indicator of pervasive de facto capital welfare
is a positive inflation-adjusted rate of return on government
debt instruments. The market compares private investments and
their risk-adjusted rates of return against the rates offered by
the government, backed by its fiscal and monetary authority. If
a private asset isn't obviously a better deal and the investor,
as in socialist central planning, is too far removed from the
private asset by wealth centralization to make a well informed
judgment about the investment's viability, the investor will
generally opt for investments that are backed my a history of
known profit -- resorting to U. S. Treasury paper and their
positive real interest rates, if all else fails. This is
equivalent to a welfare "safety net" for capital.
The widely used net present value formula, being based on these
government supported interest rates, indicates the real rate of
interest on the national debt is the rate of negative asset
taxation the economy pays to all wealth in society and therefore
quantifies the level of capital welfare pervading society.
ASSET DISTRIBUTION
A primary function of the market is to place assets under the
ownership of those whose unique skills, knowledge, courage,
intelligence and enterprise will maximize the assets' profitable
use and minimize the risk of waste or idleness. This happens
when people contending for the use of assets estimate the net
present value of the assets.
Those perceiving the greatest value in the asset use their
capital or credit to purchase the asset. If they underestimate
the risk and/or overestimate the profit, they lose some capital
or credit and therefore are less likely to grab assets and make
poor use of them in the future. However, if they are right, they
gain capital or credit at a greater rate than competitors. Thus,
the market strives to maintain an optimal match between the
particular qualities of owners and those of the assets they own
as reflected in the owner-specific net present value calculation.
We eliminate the market equilibrium in asset ownership when,
independent of any particular qualities of the owners, our
policies not only protect the inflation-adjusted value of assets,
but actually provide a net return, including capital gains, on
ownership. In such an environment, society pays a negative asset
tax which amounts to welfare for capital, creating debilitating
incentives similar to welfare for labor. In both cases,
nonperformance is rewarded over enterprise. When combined with
taxation on income, capital gains, sales, value added,
inheritance, gifts, etc., (all market activities that reallocate
resources within the economy), the disincentives placed on
productive investment are greatly compounded.
Just as important, capital welfare severely distorts the
optimization of asset ownership in society by placing, as a
matter of public policy, ever more assets under the control of
those who already have the most assets. Capitalism expresses its
worst potentials when capital welfare debilitates the character
of the wealthy while it gives them ever more economic authority.
This asset centralization impoverishes the population at large,
ending with a collapse in consumer demand. Supply-side theory
fails to predict this collapse because it fails to deal with the
fact that the wealthy are just as prone to character erosion by
welfare as are the poor. It is even more destructive than
welfare for the poor because it corrupts the decision makers in
the economy. In the face of collapsing consumer demand and
capital welfare, acquisition of more capital assets is promoted
over the productive use or investment of those assets.
Political rhetoric defining "the rich" or "the wealthy" as those
with high levels of income or capital appreciation, focuses
public sentiment against the most productive members of society
and away from the centralization of net assets as the underlying
problem.
The incentive for productivity in the economy, left after the
disincentives of capital welfare are subtracted, is the long-term
economic growth rate minus the interest rate on the national
debt. When the interest rate being paid on the national debt
equals the growth rate of the economy, the fruits of all
productivity are being confiscated to pay capital welfare and the
incentives for productive investment and labor disappear. When
the incentives for productivity become negative due to capital
welfare in excess of the economic growth rate, wealth is
structurally centralized at the expense of others in the economy.
The absolute level of net assets owned by the general population
actually decreases so as to increase the net assets of the
wealthy. This not only removes all incentives for production and
entrepreneurial investment from the economy, but consumer demand
collapses as credit is liquidated to pay for necessities.
Depression ensues. It is under these circumstances that demands
for socialist intervention in the economy via "public investment"
take on an air of urgent legitimacy.
In such a desperate environment, Marx's arguments in "Das
Kapital" appear as rational and appealing as any made by
Schumpeter, Laffer or even Adam Smith. It is therefore critical
to understand to what extent socialist criticisms of capitalism
are valid so we can credibly argue against their fallacies --
particularly when they are promoted during obvious manifestations
of capitalism's flaws.
THE APPEAL OF COMMUNISM
Communists advocate the emergence of a "scientific state" in
which all revenues and all functions of society are subsumed by
government planning and execution. In updated terminology, Marx
predicted that ultimately science would advance to the point that
there would be no role for labor or enterprise -- only
scientifically optimized systems of automated planning and
production. In this situation, there would be no free market to
sustain the masses since they would not own the automated means
of production, and, labor being worthless, would, therefore, have
no income. Although Marx predicted a "withering away of the
state", the communist interpretation of Marx's dilemma was that
the state should confiscate ownership of the automated means of
production and distribute the products to the masses based on
social need. Since science would have removed all uncertainty as
to the most optimal way in which to plan and operate these
facilities, there would be no need for the incentives of the
market to optimally allocate assets.
Clearly, communism touched a chord with this vision of an
automated future in which laborers could not feed themselves or
their families while capitalists, who controlled vast production
facilities, had no incentive to operate them. The communist
movement dominated the politics of the 20th century. Adolf
Hitler exploited a related idea when he attacked "international
Jewish bankers" in his national socialist movement. When such
profoundly destructive movements run their course, it behooves us
to do more than merely condemn their evils in moral outrage.
Analysis of this recurring political disease, why we are
susceptible to it and what can be done to prevent it in the
future is just as great a moral responsibility as is condemnation
of its manifest evils.
The appeal of communism (and an appeal of fascism) is that it
addresses a truth which capitalists exploit and typically resist
acknowledging in a material way -- that nature and civilization
provide common assets of knowledge, resources, infrastructure and
defense of legal rights which enhance and secure the productive
value of private assets. It is precisely this pervasive
influence of common assets, attributable to natural and
historical heritage rather than the merits of any living person
or operating corporation, that provides the definition of
government's proper function, and, therefore, its proper level
and source of revenue.
A CRITIQUE OF HENRY GEORGE
In the 1800's Henry George advocated a "single tax" based on
unimproved land value. His rationale for this was that
unimproved land was the only heritage in common to all and
therefore not attributable to the merit of any person. This was
a reasonable approximation of the contribution of "common assets"
to wealth generating activity during an era in which most
economic growth was occurring in the westward expansion across
the continent of North America.
But in modern technological civilization, the common assets of
scientific knowledge, public domain technical knowledge, defense,
law, infrastructure and education dominate our society. Perhaps
at some point space will become a physical frontier and allow
real property rights to become as important as they were during
the 1800's, but at present, Henry George's approximation is a
poor one. Indeed, it has never been a good approximation in
urbanized areas, which is a major reason that Henry George's
"single tax" ideas have failed to find great currency in
political and academic circles.
One of the greatest strengths of Henry George's land tax was that
it would have promoted a much more rapid development of the
American frontier by allowing the government to simply open more
of its territories to private claim, without worrying about
unproductive hoarding of those territories.
Because of this fear of hoarding, the government resorted to a
highly political system of land grants which created the rail
road trusts that became a persistent blight on society.
Similar blights are now being created in the bureaucratic
allocation of frequency spectrum by the Federal Communications
Commission and geostationary orbits for communications
satellites.
In reality, we are surrounded by "frontiers" in many dimensions.
Few have the profound implications of a physical frontier such as
the American west or space, but all share in common the attribute
that proprietary access to them is restricted by government so as
to prevent unproductive hoarding.
In the case of technological frontiers, this problem is solved by
limiting the patent claims to 17 years. An inventor can sit on
an invention doing nothing with it for up to 17 years, but beyond
that time, its use cannot be inhibited by the inventor. In
practice, most inventors are so eager to see their invention
brought into widespread use, they endanger their own claim. The
patented technique is unique among frontier claims in that it's
use is not inherently limited -- techniques are not "resources",
and in that it is truly the creation of the inventor -- not an
emergent phenomenon of civilization and nature.
But in other areas, such as radio frequency and orbital slots,
the analogy with frontier "land" is almost perfect.
The NAT, unlike George's land tax, makes it possible for the
government to open up all frontiers to private claim and
development. Claimants must simply define and register the
nature of the property rights that they wish to claim so that
others can avoid overlapping claims or negotiate easements.
Naturally, there are many such abstract property rights which are
now in use by people, although unclaimed. The principle of first
use, like first to invent in patent law, should be the criteria
for priority on a claim. "Use" should include not only direct
physical utilization, but declaration of intent to use the
property right via claim.
NAT liability begins with the date that the claim is protected
under law.
A CRITIQUE OF COMMUNISM
While, unlike Henry George, communists recognized the
contribution of all common assets, they provided no clear and
verifiable measure of this contribution. They could not define
to what extent civilization had achieved an automated scientific
optimum, and, therefore, to what extent economic production was
attributable not to the qualities of individuals, but to the
qualities of civilization. It is the lack of such a measure and
corresponding limits on the role of government, that has made
communist theory so destructive.1
Fortunately, we have evolved just such a measure in our own
society. This measure is the ratio of the interest rate on the
government debt to the overall economic growth rate in the
economy -- the degree to which a typical asset's value, as
calculated in the net present value formula, arises from the
existence of nature and civilization. Government debt
instruments "automatically" produce more wealth for their owners.
They are financially certain. The interest rate on these
instruments describe the degree to which capital enjoys a welfare
safety-net that reduces the incentive for productive investment.
It, therefore, approximates the degree to which it is appropriate
and practical for government to collect society's wealth for the
maintenance of common assets.
When the proceeds of society's productive capacity are just
enough to pay out at a rate equal to government debt instruments,
we confront capitalism's dilemma in which the only sustainable
source of income is ownership of the means of production and our
only choices appear to be economic depression or communism. This
is the first indication that the large deficits of supply-side
economics must inevitably lead to an a promotion of centralized
management -- whether in government or corporate bureaucracies.
A corollary of communism is that the common knowledge, that makes
private ownership of resulting wealth immoral, make central
planning the most efficient way to allocate resources. Just as a
wise and benevolent dictatorship is the best form of government,
so central economic planning, given adequate knowledge, is the
best way to allocate assets. Central planning efficiently
exploits economies of scale without wasteful duplication of
facilities and competition between different ideas. Of course,
central planning assumes that the central planners know what
consumers want in the absence of any demand-side market
information.
Indeed, this is virtually identical to the failure of supply-side
theorists such as George Gilder, who claim that centralized
wealth not only can make good decisions about what people want
without purchasing power necessarily being placed in the hands of
the consumer, but will go ahead and invest in such an
environment. In Gilder's supply-side manifesto "Wealth and
Poverty" supply-side economics is founded on Say's Law which
states that supply creates demand.
Both communists and supply-side economists distrust the
consumer's wisdom to make wise choices in the marketplace --
preferring the conservative wisdom of centralized power to make
such decisions and trusting their altruistic instincts. Both
prefer centralized authority over consumer sovereignty. Neither
supply-side nor communist theory accept the democratic dynamics
of a consumer market.
Ironically, supply-side policies seem to amplify the errors of
communism in two ways: 1) By requiring consumers to go into debt
for their basic necessities, supply-side economics imposes
negative wealth on consumers so that, at some point, not only may
they not obtain the bare necessities of life, but they must also
provide what they do not have to those who are already own
everything. The material rights of communism prevent this ultra-
pathological situation from arising. 2) Deficit spending for
government contracts awarded to large corporations typically goes
into advanced technology projects, as opposed to mature-
technology infrastructure projects. With mature technology, the
management is much more "scientific" than it is with technology
development, and therefore more compatible with communism. For
examples, it is obvious that a mile of train track built across a
given kind of terrain will cost no more than a certain amount of
money. When building a new space vehicle, or thermonuclear
fusion furnace, however, there is no way for central managers or
politicians to determine whether initial bids and/or cost
overruns are reasonable given the difficulty of the project, or
whether those executing the project are simply dishonest and/or
incompetent.
FROM SLAVERY TO FREEDOM
There are property rights that deserve special treatment in our
laws and markets. If we are to avoid a political free-for-all in
seeking exemptions from normal tax and regulatory burdens, there
must be basic principles that define which property rights are
and are not special.
A starting point is the foundation of modern democracy. The
cornerstones of this foundation are the principles by which
democracy replaced systems such as slavery and feudalism in the
Old World.
First among these principles is that people are not to be treated
as property.2
Since they are not property, investments in their health, safety
and education are not recoverable as profits by investors in the
free market. This difficulty in recovering human investments,
resulting directly from abandonment of slavery, is a "market
failure" which must be addressed by non-market institutions such
as the family, religion and government. In a sense, the
abandonment of slavery was a first step away from the primacy of
property since it undermined one's right to own one of the most
valuable assets conceivable: Human beings.
Public investment in the health and education of people also
happens to be one of the highest-return and most obvious ways
that society can increase its overall wealth. Although the best
means of educating and maintaining health may not be so obvious,
market synthesis is feasible as a means of optimization. An
example of this is the proposal for education vouchers and school
choice, although the value of such vouchers should, as a moral
matter, be adjusted by a bidding system to fit individual student
needs. Similar market syntheses can be proposed for national
health insurance and many other government functions.
Failures of the market, such as the difficulty of collecting
tolls on roads and other infrastructure, have been used to
justify government intervention, but they are not nearly so
fundamental as the abandonment of slavery. For example, systems
are now available which can automatically identify vehicles
traveling at full speed, and bill for the use of roads. This
means the state can now sell its road systems to private
interests and leave optimal investment decisions in road
infrastructure to the market, assuming market-driven means of
allocating rights-of-way are established.
Although formally abolished, degraded forms of slavery continued
in feudal times. After capital became a central organizing
principle, debtors prisons were abolished as part of the move
away from feudalism, thus the power to enslave via legal contract
was virtually eliminated.
The institution of bankruptcy protection against creditors was a
final rejection of slavery and feudalism. Bankruptcy protection
allows one to maintain ownership of one's residence and the tools
of one's trade despite the claims of creditors. Not only is
one's own person exempt from market confiscation but one's vital
possessions are protected as well.
Elimination of debtors' prisons and the institution of bankruptcy
protection of limited personal assets were the final steps away
from slavery and feudalism. These steps toward freedom caused
additional failures in the capital markets. These capital market
failures provide the basis for many government policies including
progressivity in taxation and the promotion of home ownership and
small businesses.3
During the Great Depression of the 1930's, two additional
interventions were established to protect the immediate assets of
individuals:
1) Securities and Exchange Commission regulations to protect
average individuals against losses in risky investments, and
2) Deposit insurance for banks and savings and loans.
SEC regulations have required compensating programs in an attempt
to deal with the capital market failures created by these
regulations.
Deposit insurance, being backed by the federal government,
created the need for highly intrusive federal banking regulations
to prevent monopolistic abuses -- regulation which ended in the
early 1980's. Government support of deposit insurance continued,
however. This imbalance of authority of responsibility resulted
in the banking abuses and failures of the late 1980's.
Significantly, all of the government interventions which protect
the immediate assets of individuals have about the same cut-off
point. SEC regulations define "qualified investors" (those
qualified to make high risk investments) as those who have net
assets on the order of $100,000. Deposit insurance for
individual savers cuts off at $100,000. Bankruptcy protection
for one's residence plus the tools of one's trade is typical at
around the same level.
The unifying principle behind these exemptions and regulations is
the protection of one's control over one's own person and vital
possessions. The abandonment of slavery with the ancillary
abandonment of debtor's prisons plus the protection of home and
tools, are at the foundation of our free society.
Finally, the U. S. Constitution contains a provision for patents
of invention and copyright along with a prohibition on patents of
nobility. In a very real sense, the "royalties" collected by
inventors for their inventions and artists for their creative
works are the basis for a new definition of "nobility" upon which
the United States culture is founded. In the United States,
nobility is in the creative act rather than in the mere
possession of land or titles conferred by the authorities. Just
as the land of old world nobility was protected from the normal
contention of the marketplace, so the "creative spark" of
inventors, researchers and creative writers should be protected.
Indeed, given the need for inventors and artists to focus their
energies on creative rather than acquisitive disciplines, special
protections are far more necessary than they were for the old
world nobility, which possessed exceptional acquisitive
capabilities. For this reason, patents of invention and
copyrights, when possessed by their creators, should be treated
as vital possessions of their creators for a limited time (17
years in the case of patents).
The particularly perverse trend toward government-financed
technology development has been attributed to a failure of the
capital market to address these critical needs. However, the
real problem with technology competitiveness is simply that
technologists have been economically disenfranchised by a capital
welfare system favoring acquisition over creation. The present
reforms eliminate capital welfare for acquisitors while restoring
creativity to its Constitutionally-mandated place of nobility.
THE NET ASSET TAX
The existence of pervasive capital welfare discussed above
provides the basis for a system of taxation.
The principles of freedom upon which our country was founded
provide the basis for exemptions from taxation.
These insights yield the following proposal for a Net Asset Tax
(NAT) reform:
The government should tax net assets, in excess of levels
typically protected under personal bankruptcy, at a rate equal to
the rate of interest on the national debt, thereby eliminating
other forms of taxation. Creator-owned intellectual property
should be exempt.
The levels typically protected by personal bankruptcy can be
approximated by the median price of housing an individual added
to the median capitalization of a job in the economy. Together,
these exemptions add up to between $50,000 and $100,000.
Additional but smaller exemptions may be added to represent the
lower levels of bankruptcy protection typically extended to
children within families.
The NAT is a self-adjusting system that seeks an equilibrium
between government debt levels, current tax rates and private
wealth distribution, without attempting to achieve an outright
balanced budget or direct intervention in the economy.
Under current (1992) asset distribution and government debt the
NAT would generate between $1 trillion and $1.5 trillion in
revenue, thus totally displacing other forms of taxation.
MARKET DEMOCRACY
Under the NAT, government functions and regulation can be cut
back as capitalism becomes more functional. This does not mean,
however, that government expenditures will necessarily decline.
As government debt is paid down, the role of government declines
and capital productivity climbs, the rate of interest offered on
government debt will fall to unprecedented levels with respect to
the economic growth rate. In this situation, it will become the
responsibility of the legislature to determine to what extent
society has reached a scientific optimum and increase its deficit
spending accordingly. Although the legislature has this
Constitutional responsibility in any case, the NAT will make this
clear as never before.
One way of viewing public and private domain functions under the
NAT is that as optimum ways of doing business are discovered in a
sector and become "scientific" or common knowledge, investment
risk disappears and with it the merit of private investment.
Theoretically, in such a mature sector, the government could
invest and compete with the private sector without any
appreciable loss in productivity.
As demonstrated in communist societies, not only is such a
theoretic optimum never fully achieved, but the bureaucracies
that are supposed to apply the scientific knowledge of a mature
sector in order to optimize and distribute its value invariably
succumb to politics. Just as monopolistic corporate
bureaucracies can become regressive in a relatively mature
sector, such as the U.S. automobile industry, so will any attempt
to subsume such sectors under government control result in
bureaucratic regression.
With the exception of basic functions of government and the pay
down of debt, the government budget should be dispersed to
citizens as cash, rather than being spent in government programs
or even limited in the form of vouchers. This is "market
democracy" in which the citizens and their markets, rather than
central planning and politics, influence the selection of goods
and services to be capitalized and provided.
In fulfilling the moral mandates of a free society, such as
education and health care, government assistance feeding the
market should be restricted in ways that ensure the market is
providing those goods and services to the people who need them.
However, it is imperative that the recipients of government
assistance be allowed to choose from multiple sources so as to
suppress the monopolistic failures typical of bureaucracies,
whether corporate or government.
In areas of such moral mandates, the need of the individual
recipient, as determined by a bidding process, should determine
the amount of restricted financing provided to the individual.
This is in contrast to the even distribution of unrestricted
appropriations.
In essence, "market democracy" allows the people to direct their
portion of the government budget directly rather than going
through a political or bureaucratic process. Market democracy
synthesizes a competitive market from public demand for goods and
services. This motivates the risk of private capital in the
provision of services and cost containment. It avoids not only
the central planning fallacy of communism, but also the political
failures that have so plagued our system of government in recent
decades.
NAT ASSESSMENT
In general, all assets are subject to assessment in computing
taxable net assets. Payment of taxes may be deferred with
interest on the unpaid balance equal to the taxation rate. The
unpaid balance is counted as a liability in the calculation of
net assets. When one's tax liability grows to the point that one
has no net assets in excess of bankruptcy protection levels,
forced liquidation or transfer of assets takes place to cover the
tax liability. The only privately owned assets not assessed are
the Constitutionally defined intellectual property rights of
patents of invention and copyright, when owned by their creators.
In order to avoid creating a bias toward debt financing and to
treat economies of scale rationally, corporate assets should not
be subjected to double taxation.
As with current systems of taxation, there are practical limits
to assessment. For example, in theory every agreement in which
value is exchanged is subject to taxation. In reality, life is
filled with "quid pro quo's", including cash transactions, that
are never reported to the Internal Revenue Service, nor would it
be practical to do so. The practical realities of tax assessment
and auditing dictate that large portions of any tax base be
ignored, concentrating only on the most visible and accessible
aspects of the economy. In the case of the NAT, only assets
whose existence is legally recorded in titles, insurance
documents, etc., or that are currently reported for capital gains
and losses would be individually assessed. Since most households
own few major assets changing little from year to year, the NAT
would greatly simplify tax computation.
The actual value placed on an asset can be determined in a number
of ways, including self-assessment with mandatory and timely sale
if an offer to buy at the assessed price is made. The present
systems of appraisal such as those already used in real estate
taxation could also be used. In any case, the exact method of
assessment is secondary to the requirement that errors in the
estimate remain unbiased.
Under no circumstances should there be an "assessment day" upon
which all assessments for the year depend. What is assessed is
NOT one's possessions and liabilities on some arbitrary day, but
rather the time over which one owned various assets or held
liabilities during the prior year.
CURRENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS AND RISK INVERSION
A fundamental problem with our economy at present is what might
be called "risk inversion" where households with high net worth
disproportionately invest in low risk instruments while
households with low net worth find their savings unwisely
invested at high risk by deregulated but relatively unskilled
financial institutions.
New technologies and job-creating enterprises find it difficult
to obtain capital because they are caught in the horns of a
dilemma: The wealthy, who have the business experience needed to
manage the risks of a new enterprise, have given their money to
government or corporate bureaucracies to manage while small
savers find their savings accounts squandered in speculative
investments by institutions which are, in reality, qualified to
do little more than purchase Treasury paper, which is what they
should, in fact, be doing.
Even more perverse, the government finds itself stepping away
from its traditional low-risk investments in mature
infrastructure in order to perform functions for which it is
particularly ill-suited, such as technical innovation, while
private sector businesses retreat from the very technical risk it
is most suited to manage.
The government then finds itself bailing out the failed
investments of insured, but deregulated, financial institutions,
thus creating even more government debt which is purchased by
those most qualified to capitalize business enterprise.
The current hue and cry for saving the "middle class" arises from
the failure of our deregulated financial institutions to focus on
their original purpose, which was the creation of affordable home
ownership. Instead, they speculated in the creation of large
amounts of theoretically profitable commercial real estate as
young families were being crushed under the weight of sky-
rocketing home mortgages and declining real wages.
The "middle class" it is currently in vogue to worry about are
those people, primarily people born in the 1950's (middle to late
baby boomers), whose family stability and household net worth
suffered greatly as a result of these housing shortages combined
with lowering real incomes.
Throughout the 1970's and 1980's these 50's babies were locked
out of homes in perpetual courtship behavior. The relative
unaffordability of housing delayed the onset of nesting far
longer than those born before 1950. Courtship behavior is
notoriously consumptive and exhausting. Nesting behavior is
investive and constructive. Thus 60 million Americans born in
the 1950's are now suffering from low equity for their ages, and
little hope for the future.
In reality, it is too late to do anything for the members of this
group since most of its females are now leaving their
childbearing years -- some desperately risking late pregnancies.
Most families have already been irreversibly damaged, assuming
they were formed at all. The best we can do now is attempt to
rebuild the middle class for future generations and try to allow
those we have decimated to build some equity for retirement with
their productive years.4
Starting in the 1960's and early 1970s', in order to hoard assets
that would soon be in demand by the 50's boomers and to enjoy the
resulting capital gains, it was necessary for speculators to
borrow large amounts of money prior to the earning power of
boomers reaching "buy in" levels. The boomers were then forced
to borrow even more money at higher real interest rates, while
the speculators liquidated and moved on to ownership of the
corporations which were paying the boomers lowered real wages and
therefore enjoying higher profits and capital gains because of
the increased experience level and productivity of the 50's
boomers.
Centralization of the growing asset base, with values inflated by
debt, were the result. Little was done in government policy to
get boomers into ownership of their own businesses during their
years of peak productivity. This is because the profits on this
huge influx of highly productive man-hours could more easily be
captured from increasingly centralized and anti competitive
corporations. Naturally, many boomers revolted against this
trend and attempted undercapitalized "self employment" instead of
working long hours for a large corporation that offered them
little or no security.
The end result of this risk inversion is a low rate of return on
the U.S. economy's highly centralized assets, compounded with
debt. This low rate of return is even more significant given the
potential of the 50's boomers during their peak years of
productivity.
We are now seeing an increasing social burden from 60 million
people born in the 1950's no longer willing and able to exert
themselves, during their peak years of productivity, for what
they see as a life-long Ponzi scheme which continually dangles
the American Dream before their eyes and never delivers. Many
have postponed childbearing and nesting too long. Millions of
potential families, not to mention tens of millions of children
aborted for financial reasons, have been lost to our society
forever.
In short, our social contract has been breached and the angry
plaintiffs are about to realize they can sue.
This is a politically explosive situation.
Although decisive action is needed to stave off the explosion, it
will probably not be taken until too late since those controlling
policies have benefited from this breach ever since the 50's
boomers began entering the workforce in the 1970's. However the
increasing demoralization of this group combined with its
increasing age and experience is leading to an inevitable
collision with destiny. Those who helped concoct the current
situation will continue to point in all directions, including at
the 50's boomers themselves, in their panic to appear to be doing
something. But someone, probably a destructive demagogue, is
bound to call their bluff sooner or later.
At that point, a political catastrophe will occur.
Adoption of the NAT and market democracy can avert this tragic
outcome and resurrect the American Dream.
CONCLUSION
This proposal is timely because the supply-side exploitation of
capital welfare has made this flaw in the foundation of our
economic system obvious, and its correction urgent.
Our tax policies have increasingly violated basic moral
principles during the 1980's and threaten to continue doing so in
the 1990's. The symptoms are many and varied, including a heavy
consumer debt load with corresponding over centralization of net
assets. A Keynesian collapse in demand and therefore a collapse
in the incentives for entrepreneurial investment of the capital
that was centralized by supply-side policies during the 1980's,
is creating a classic depressionary scenario. Coming at a time
when we must convert our industrial base from a Cold War
configuration to commercial competition, this collapse in
investment incentives is particularly damaging. The resulting
demoralization of our society is everywhere evident.
Of all the proposals for economic renewal, the NAT is the only
one that can provide immediate relief of our worst economic
symptoms while, at the same time, providing a solid foundation
for long term economic conversion and robust economic growth
rooted in basic moral principles.
APPENDIX I
U.S. WEALTH DISTRIBUTION BY PERCENTILE AND ASSET TYPE, 1983
Source US Congress Joint Economic Committee "The Concentration
of Wealth in the United States Trends in the Distribution of
Wealth among American Families" Washington Joint Economic
Committee 1983 p. 24. Some figures are provided to us by the
Federal Reserve Board following publication of the Joint
Economic Committee Report.
Total Top Top Top
Type of asset Amount(1) .5% 1% 10%
Trusts 495.7 77.0 81.6 95.1
Corporate stock(2) 1,005.0 45.6 58.4 89.8
Bonds 328.1 41.3 49.6 88.0
Business assets 2,274.6 39.0 51.6 90.9
Money market accounts 285.0 15.9 22.5 58.8
Real estate 5,355.0 14.9 19.3 49.2
Land contracts 111.0 13.9 15.2 50.4
IRAs and Keoghs 142.2 13.0 21.1 67.3
Checking accounts 115.9 9.7 17.2 46.3
Insurance cash value 259.0 6.7 10.5 34.9
Certificates of deposite 383.1 4.8 10.7 49.9
Savings accounts 189.5 2.1 5.2 31.1
Automobiles 359.5 1.6 3.0 20.1
Miscellaneous 201.1 15.2 22.1 70.2
Gross assets 11,486.4 24.6 31.6 63.5
Net worth 10,038.9 28.7 34.3 67.92
(1) In billions of dollars
(2) Including stock owned directly or thorough mutual funds but
excluding holdings of pensions and trusts
In 1985, the accuracy of the above table was challenged by the
Federal Reserve Board whose estimates indicated a more even
distribution of wealth. In 1991, independent studies based on
the 1990 census indicated that the Federal Reserve Board's methods
were inaccurate and significantly underestimated the skew in wealth
distribution by percentile. At present, the Federal Reserve is the
dominant source of data on wealth distribution in the U.S. with
only 2 comprehensive independent studies having been conducted in
the last 20 years, both indicating wealth is more concentrated than
typically indicated by the Federal Reserve. This checkered history
indicates a serious gap in the credibility of wealth distribution
estimates.
As of 1990, total U.S. net worth is estimated by various sources
including the Brookings Institute, Federal Reserve and First Boston
Bank, at between $20 trillion and $30 trillion dollars. Depending
on the impact of Resolution Trust Corporation liquidations on real
estate values, this range could be as much as $5 trillion dollars
too high.
APPENDIX II
CALCULATIONS
Tax Liability
The simplified tax calculation is as follows:
tax_liability = maximum(net_assets - bankruptcy_protection , $0) * treasury_rate
net_assets = assets - liabilities
bankruptcy_protection is set at approximately $100,000 per household
to be conservative.
Assets, as well as liabilities are calculated as 12 month averages.
Expected Federal Tax Revenue
From the data in Appendix I, the following inferences can be made:
As of 1990, with a higher concentration of wealth than in 1983 or 1985,
households with $100,000 or more in net assets start at between the
50th and 75th percentile.
Those tax-paying percentiles own between 80% and 90% of all net assets.
Assuming there are approximately 50 million households represented in
the asset distribution table, the average per-household assets of taxable
households is between $640,000 (at 25 million households) and $2,160,000
(at 12.5 million households).
Average taxable assets per taxable household are between $540,000 (at
25 million households) and $2,060,000 (at 12.5 million households).
The interest rate on the national debt is approximately 6%.
Average tax liability per taxpaying household is therefore between
$32,400 and $123,600.
TOTAL FEDERAL TAX REVENUE is therefore between $800 billion and $1.5 trillion.
These calculations are very rough due to the dearth of asset distribution
studies, but they do demonstrate that the NAT generates revenues similar
to those generated under the current tax system.
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APPENDIX III
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE NAT REFORM
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Q:
Won't the savings rate go down under a Net Asset Tax?
A:
Savings rates will increase along with the increased after-tax rates of
return on savings for households. Most households will be well below the
standard exemption and can, therefore, put their savings into government-
backed debt instruments and receive an even higher rate of after-tax return
than they can get now. They'll have more disposable income to save as
well.
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Q:
I thought only rich people could invest in T-bills.
A:
Since only middle class people will find government debt instruments
attractive, financial institutions will offer savings and checking accounts
backed by government debt instruments.
This has a very important side effect:
Under the NAT, deposit insurance can be eliminated and along with it, the
most burdensome regulations of financial institutions.
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Q:
How with the NAT affect retirees?
A:
The AARP's figure for median net worth of retired households is just under
$70,000.
Since the NAT household exemption would be on the order of $100,000, not
only would most retirees pay no taxes at all, but even some wealthy
retirees would find themselves paying LESS tax than they pay at present.
Doing a bit of algebra:
NAT_liability ~= (household_net_assets - 100,000)*.06
CURRENT_liability ~= income * .28 (Assuming 28% tax rate.)
income = household_net_assets * .06
(This assumes all their assets are bearing income at an average of 6%.)
Setting CURRENT_liability = NAT_liability and substituting "income":
(household_net_assets - 100,000)*.06 = household_net_assets *.28 *.06
Solving for household_net_assets:
household_net_assets = $138,888 (This is around the 80th percentile.)
So you have to have more than about $140,000 in net assets before you will
end up paying more in NAT taxes, as a retired household, than you currently
pay in productivity taxes. This makes the pessimistic assumption that you
will leave all your assets in low yield instruments instead of using your
years of experience at accumulating all those assets to help young people
start their own businesses, or help your
children start their families, a la SBA's SCORE and the extended family.
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Q:
What about the impending collapse of the Social Security system that baby
boomers are so worried about?
A:
This NAT reform is the best hope boomers have for a happy and secure
retirement. The NAT was developed by boomers motivated to deal with the
lack of economic equity experienced by those born during the 1950's
resulting from the stress they placed on the job and housing markets.
By causing the long-term growth rate of productivity to increase, the boom
generation's retirement will be secured and the Social Security trust Fund
kept solvent. The NAT will head-off a fiscal and monetary disaster which
now looms over the retirement of those born in the post-World War II baby
boom.
Enemies of the boomers (typified by Federal Reserve economists who
represent capital welfare interests) have already started to fight the NAT
by misrepresenting it as a tax which will target the pensions of boomers 30
years from now.
If the NAT is adopted soon, boomers (especially the 60 million born in the
1950's who have few net assets) can use their peak productive years to
prepare themselves and our country for their retirement. Indeed, since
there is no such thing as a free lunch (except capital welfare), timely
adoption of the NAT reform is the only realistic means of assuring boomers
of a happy and secure retirement for boomers..
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Q:
What about the federal deficit?
A:
The federal deficit will come under control as the tax rate is tied to the
treasury rate. This doesn't eliminate the federal deficit -- it merely
ensures the deficit will remain at reasonable levels.
Further, the NAT links spending to the tax rate, through the aggregate
interest rate being paid on the national debt. If Congress goes on a
spending spree and drives up the Treasury rate for a period of a few years,
the aggregate interest rate being paid on the national debt will rise
noticeably.
This will create the same kind of constituency to control SPENDING as now
exists to control TAXATION, but it still gives the government the
flexibility to borrow and spend large sums of money in times of emergency.
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Q:
What about loopholes?
A:
There are several things that make this tax system far better at closing
loopholes than the productivity tax system. From most to least
significant:
1) Unlike the NAT, it is impossible to construct a productivity tax system
without a labyrinthine system of loop holes, simply because the economy
would grind to a screeching halt without them. For example, a big problem
with "flat tax" proposals is the fact that businesses have expenses which
must be deducted. A productivity tax without business deductions would
favor conglomerates and wipe out small businesses or businesses that have
high dollar volume with small value added.
Once you admit the need for deductions, the rich hire armies of
lobbyists and make sure that hidden in that mountain of rules and
regulations defining how deductions are to work, are their special little
loopholes that they can drive a Rolls Royce through.
Under the NAT, activities are not taxed, therefore there is NO NEED
FOR DEDUCTIONS. It can be a genuine flat tax.
2) Assets are harder to hide than transactions. Transactions are EVENTS
which means they don't necessarily leave a trace or record. Assets are
POSSESSIONS which exist across time. Even abstract properties like stocks
and partnership shares are meaningless as assets without some sort of legal
record. Most highly valued assets are insured and/or their titles are
recorded.
3) By eliminating productivity taxes, the NAT creates a great positive
incentive to put assets to productive use. Once in productive use, it's
hard to hide them.
4) The last resort of the incompetent and nearly brain-dead would be to
sell off everything they can't make use of at reasonable prices to people
who CAN make use of them (which is one of the main purposes of the NAT) and
either move the money to Swiss banks or purchase diamonds and other easily-
hidden assets of high value.
This is actually a very good thing. What you are doing in the final
analysis is removing domestic power from capital welfare. A bag of
diamonds sitting around in a secret safe isn't power -- control of assets
needed for production and life is power. Other countries might not be too
happy with the U.S. for dumping our parasites on them, but then they are
getting cash at the same time as compensation.
In reality, many foreign banks will receive these deposits and decide
to simply turn around to reinvest them in the U.S. due to the greater
investment opportunities of the NAT economy.
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Q:
How does one value net assets for tax purposes?
A:
Recalling the NAT reform:
The government should tax net assets, in excess of levels typically
protected under personal bankruptcy, at a rate equal to the rate of
interest on the national debt, thereby eliminating other forms of
taxation. Creator-owned intellectual property should be exempt.
Net assets are simply the assets you own minus the liabilities you owe.
The liabilities you owe are counted as assets owned by those to whom you
owe the liability.
There are a number of ways to solve the NAT assessment problem. The
literature on property value assessment is voluminous and easily available.
Real estate is only one kind of asset. Just about any approximation of
asset value in a NAT would yield a tax system superior the current forms of
taxation. Of course, some methods of assessment would yield NATs that were
superior to others.
An interesting method used by the Chinese was to allow the owner to self-
assess. If the government thought the owner was undervaluing the asset, it
could purchase the asset at the owner-assessed price. This "fair
compensation" is at the basis of the right of eminent domain. Such a NAT
assessment system has a constitutional basis (in the 5th amendment).
Something which is more difficult to say about the income tax considering
the shady circumstances surrounding its enabling amendment.
However, it would be better to leave the government out of the decision.
Simple market dynamics are probably the ideal method of asset valuation.
You estimate your assets' values and then if someone wants to buy them at
that value, the government exercises its right of eminent domain to force
the transaction. Naturally, these transfers of ownership must be allowed
to occur in a commercially reasonable manner in all other respects.
Also, the fact that people would tend to over-value their assets, so as to
discourage purchase by others, is NOT a flaw in this form of assessment.
Everyone would experience the same incentive and would, therefore, share
about the same burden of taxation as they would under a "perfect"
assessment system.
There would be some differential tax relief enjoyed by those who were
actively trying to liquidate their assets, since they would lower the
assessments as a means of expanding their market.
But I want to reemphasize, the chosen method of assessment could be no
better then the current, highly politicized, methods of real estate
assessment for property taxation, and the NAT would STILL be superior to
the current tax system.
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Q:
Taxing wealth seems to be an obvious thing to do, yet I've never heard of
it being seriously considered before. Why not?
A:
To quote from "A Tax On Wealth: An Alternative to Revolution in America"
by Mortimer Lipskey:
Income is taxed; wealth is ignored as if it never existed.
It is all a reflection of the cloak of sanctity that has
been thrown around wealth -- wealth the unmentionable, the
ineffable. Perhaps that is the reason why there has been
so little discussion of wealth taxes compared to other
sources of revenue in the United States.
This writer knows of only one serious book that deals
with the subject. That book is "Taxation of Personal
Wealth" by Alan A. Tait published in 1967 by the University
of Illinois Press.... "The April Game: Secrets of an
International Revenue Agent", published in 1973 by the
Playboy Press, devotes a small section to a wealth tax.
In 1963 there was one article by A.T. Peacock in the
British Tax Review on the subject and one by M. Stewart
in "Bankers Magazine". Peter Barnes made a passing
reference to an annual wealth tax in a 1972 article in
the "New Republic".
That is about the sum total of bibliography on the subject
of wealth taxation appearing in the last decade or so. Yet,
the concept of a wealth tax is as old as civilization itself."
This book was published in 1977. Recent searches have been only a little
more fruitful.
Conversations with economists about the NAT have consisted of one of two
interactions:
"No one is thinking along those lines. It must be a nonstarter."
or
"It's a great idea and you are doing a tremendous public service
by promoting it, but we don't dare study it here."
There really does appear to be a conspiracy of silence concerning wealth
taxation, enforced by the wealthy who control those whose job it is to
study economic options.
Indeed, in economist Ravi Batra's book "The Great Depression of 1990" the
author describes the solution to depression as a wealth tax but despairs of
seeing it implemented short of revolution due to the kind of control
excerised by wealthy individuals over the institutions that pay economists.
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Q:
Has the NAT reform been tried anywhere?
A:
No.
There have been various "wealth tax" systems proposed and some wealth taxes
have even been implemented, but these have been very limited in scope.
Interestingly, the countries with the highest standards of living in the
world, such as Sweeden and Switzerland, also have the highest net wealth
tax rates.
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Q:
What are the advantages?
A:
We recover from our current economic downturn within months of enactment.
Economic activity is no longer taxed. Monopolistic or hoarding behavior is
strongly discouraged. No more depressions or extended recessions.
Families are nurtured as are small businesses. Greater return on
entrepreneurial investment. Greater investment in human capital. Greater
investment in technology and intellectual capital. A more just and humane
society. Tax simplification. Greater privacy (less total information
reported to the government). A greater middle class savings rate. A more
enterprising upper class. A restoration of the American Dream's
credibility to the lower class. The U.S. budget, tax rates, net asset
distribution and interest rates are linked together in self-correcting
control system, without the need for political intervention.
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Q:
What are the disadvantages?
This is a radical reform. It will require a major readjustment of our
business and legal system. Politically, it will be attacked, is
represented and amendments will be pushed to make it as destructive as
possible so that actual experience with the NAT is negative. In that way
the NAT can be permanently discredited by those who are threatened by its
disciplinary pressures.
Other than that, most apparent disadvantages have immediately obvious
counterbalances.
For example, although the government ends up knowing a lot more about what
you OWN, it also ends up knowing a lot less about what you DO, and since
the things you do provide more information than the things you own, there
is a NET gain in privacy.
Another example is the loss of what might be called, for lack of a better
word, our "royalty" or "nobility". The exquisite traditions and knowledge
of old wealth do posses value which is protected from generation to
generation by capital welfare. The loss of that "nobility" is replaced by
the nobility of the creator in the form of the intellectual property
exemption. On balance, it is the unique privilege and burden of America to
be creative. We should treat the creator, not the acquisitor, as nobility
in America.
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Q:
When they taxed bank deposits in Texas, the bank deposits used to be pulled
out of state before the tax date. What is to keep similar things from
happening with the NAT?
A:
Assessment should be integrated over the course of the year.
Having an "assessment day" is ridiculous. Any such date will lead to all
sorts of pathological business practices. A NAT on a statewide basis isn't
so pathological but since the total tax burden at the state level is small
compared to the federal taxes (including FICA) one wouldn't expect to see a
huge impact on the economy of those states.
It is easy to make a mess of anything if you want to. Believe me, powerful
interests don't want this tax because it makes them get off the usury dole
and back to work with their capital. They will want to hang all kinds of
destructive features on the NAT so they can portray it as an economic
disease instead of a cure.
When the NAT is being legislated, watch out for lobbyists advocating an
"assessment day" or the removal of language specifying that assessment
shall be integrated over the course of the year. They represent the enemy.
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Q:
Most taxes are based on "ability to pay." With the NAT you tax assets, but
you PAY in cash. How can you pay with some acres of land, a share in a
building, part ownership of a corporation?
A:
The net present value calculation states that an asset's value is
proportional to its combined casflow and appreciation
rates, discounted for risk and the Treasury rate.
All of the assets you mention produce either the cashflow or the
appreciation predicted by the net present value calculation. The taxpayer
can pay directly or leverage against the appreciation. The taxpayer can
even opt to defer payment and, in effect, borrow from the government at the
treasury rate with that counted as a liability.
Forced liquidation only takes place when the net assets of the taxpayer,
including tax liabilities, approach the level of bankruptcy protection.
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Q:
If you want too really go into theory, why not tax personal abilities,
figuring that is an asset (divorce courts sometimes do)? In fact this is
an old idea-the way it was originally done in the British colonies.
A:
This violates the principle of not treating people as property. People are
not assets and have not been ever since we abandoned slavery, feudalism and
debtor's prisons. Any investments made in people, such as education,
health improvement or skill acquisition, would not be taxed under a NAT
that is consistent with the founding principles of this country. The close
association of bankruptcy protection to these basic American values, and
the ability to obtain a statistical measure of its level, is why that is
the definition of the personal exemption.
The case of divorce is interesting because of the unique nature of the
institution of marriage. It is not a normal legal contract -- but a
binding together of two lives. When a wife becomes a mother and gives up a
career in support of her husband's family, it is quite clear she has a
claim on his person. But this relationship is unique and definitely not
the relationship between the government and the individual.
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Q:
Aren't property taxes regressive due to the fact that small properties tend
to be valued at closer to true value than properties of great value?
A:
The current real estate property tax is regressive for much more profound
reasons than that:
1) It is a tax on GROSS assets, i.e.: regardless of your equity.
2) It taxes property that would typically be protected under
bankruptcy proceedings -- i.e.: assets which are essential
to one's life and livelihood such as housing and small
business property.
Number 2 is actually a special case of 1, because the maintenance of one's
own person can be seen as a "liability" imposed by nature -- a debt that
one must service in order to remain alive and healthy. This is ultimately
the cleanest theoretic justification for a large personal exemption in a
NET asset tax system and it eliminates regressivity. Income taxes, by
taxing one's abilities, and sales, by taxing one's needs, and value added,
by taxing one's productivity in the most direct sense, are far
moreregressive than the proposed NAT reform.
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Q:
Wouldn't this be a one time tax?
No. The net present value calculation proves otherwise. Assets don't have
a market value if they aren't capable of producing value over time.
The NAT may be a "one time tax" for those who posses assets that are highly
valued by others, but the owners don't have any idea what to do with them.
The NAT will simply cause them to do what they would normally do in a
"perfect" market -- sell. Their cash, or other form of payment, will then
become subject to the NAT.
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Q:
Aren't "the rich" those who have high spending power, which comes both from
income and assets? If so, why not tax income?
A:
Only if the income isn't committed in debt service and if the assets aren't
offset by liabilities.
But even so, the person who is currently serving the marketplace and is
therefore enjoying high income is proving that he is being productive with
his assets. This is a desirable stateof affairs and one which we should
not tax.
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Q:
This sounds like Henry George's "Single Tax" on unimproved land. Hasn't
this already been tried in much of Australia, New Zealand and western
Canada?
A:
Henry George ignored all of the things, tangible and intangible, provided
by the existence of civilization. He also ignored all of nature's assets
except unimproved land. His was a reasonable attempt at a morally
defensible tax system during an era in which most new wealth was being
generated in the American West. However, it is entirely inadequate today.
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Q:
What about double taxation?
A:
Since the NAT is a NET asset tax, you subtract all your liabilities from
your gross assets. Assessing one's liabilities is nothing more nor less
than going to the party to whom the liability is owed, and finding what
they assess that liability at.
In the case of corporations you do one of two things:
1) You simply don't treat corporations (or any businesses) as
taxable people or households for tax purposes (although
ownership shares in them would still be assessed).
OR
2) You allow the outstanding shares, as well as debts, to be
counted as liabilities.
The first option is superior to and simpler than the second.
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Q:
How will this affect our technology competitiveness?
A:
In effect, the NAT has an even greater impact than a universal research and
development tax credit system.
Commercial technologies will advance rapidly in entrepreneurial businesses
started up by inventors.
A variety of authorities from supercomputer entrepreneur Seymour Cray to
the National Science Foundation, have repeatedly found that small,
inventor-capitalized firms are the fountainhead of commercial technology in
our society.
The NAT elevates technological innovation to the status of a noble pursuit,
which is its Constitutional place. As a result, we should experience a
tremendous explosion in the rate of technological progress and therefore,
our comptitiveness.
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Q:
What about antitrust laws?
A:
Antitrust enforcement will become less necessary as the diseconomies of
scale inherent in large corporate bureaucracies are exposed by their poor
profit/net-asset ratios.
Where economies of scale are actually realized, the NAT will favor the
formation of joint ventures and mergers.
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Q:
Will there be an impact on unfair discrimination practices?
A:
There will be many forms of unfair discrimination, not now recognized as
such, which will be eliminated by the NAT.
Unfair discrimination in the economy will be reduced without specific
legislation or programs. Corporations bureaucracies can afford to
discriminate against productive members of society only when they are
anticompetitive. When mere size is no longer favored relative to unit
productivity, businesses choosing to select employees on criteria other
than their productivity will simply be put out of business by competitors.
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Q:
How about competition with Japan? Can a bunch of small creative businesses
really make it in the international market place where Japanese
corporations act more like feudal kingdoms?
A:
Our problem is that we attempt to preserve and extend various remnants of
feudalism which is to play the game on Japanese terms. For example, until
recently, the "cradle to grave" employment practices of U.S. corporations
led to feudal practices such as corporate retirement plans, corporate
healthcare plans, etc.
We have recently moved away from these benefits of corporate feudalism
which would be a movement toward a freer societyexcept for the fact that we
had no other institutions set up to take the place of feudalism.
When the feudal lords are disloyal to their serfs, feudalism becomes
unbearable and the serfs begin "job hopping". This is then taken as
further justification to avoid feudal responsibility by the lords. A
vicious cycle of decay ensues.
In the U.S. this decay of loyalty between corporate lord and serf began in
the 1970's when inflation allowed unethical lords to lower the real wages
of loyal serfs without appearing to do so. The smart serfs recognized
their loyalty was being abused and so chose to abandon their lords for
others who were more than willing to take on smart serfs at a fair wage.
This was the genesis of the decay of American corporate feudalism.
So now we have lost our corporate feudalism and are groping to find
something to replace it with in this country. Attempts are even being made
to legislate corporate feudalism back into our business community, such as
mandatory healthcare plans paid for by employers. Such attempts fail to
recognize that feudalism is simply incompatible
with the American character.
While we are groping around for a new business paradigm, Japanese feudalism
is alive and well. Naturally they are gaining on us.
The NAT will provide us with the new American business paradigm, which
urgently needs acceptance.
It is a highly interconnected and redundant network of small to medium
sized businesses that form and dissolve based on the requirements of
rapidly evolving markets and technologies. In such a system, security
resides not in the loyalties of a single feudal hierarchy, but in the
social contract and statistics of the economy as a whole. The
inefficiencies of bureaucracy are traded off against the inefficiencies of
independence. Social mandates against unfair discrimination in the
workplace are achieved, not through government regulation, but, through the
ruthless justice of fair business competition combined with social programs
creating equal opportunity for all children as they enter adulthood.
The net gain of the NAT paradigm is in a society of free men with their
greater incentives and creativity.
APPENDIX IV
MICROECONOMIC EFFICIENCY
Imagine a sole proprietorship in which the proprietor simply offers advice
to people from his home via his home telephone. He has no assets devoted
to the business, except the investment he has made in his own education.
The taxable assets of this sole proprietorship are 0 hence there is no NAT
liability. The owner can simply declare the value of his assets to be 0
since there is nothing to purchase out from under him. He runs his
business and makes his profits unimpeded by taxation or takeover of his
assets, since there are none.
If the business itself is to be treated as an asset, then one has to look
at the investment entity that owns the asset, how accurately it calculates
the net present value of the asset at the time of purchase, and what it
does with the asset to improve on that value after purchase, since the
capital gains
in the asset aren't taxed under the NAT. Only in that way
can you decide whether the relevant business is "efficient" or
not. In other words, "efficiency" means you are getting a
high return on your assets, however you define them.
Here is a mathematical argument:
Let's say ROR is the BEFORE TAX rate of return an entity can typically
get from its assets including capital gains as well as profits. Let's
say ITR is the income tax rate and ATR is the government debt rate
and therefore would be the hypothetical asset tax rate. Let's say
the entity owns net assets with a market value totaling MV.
For simplicity, let's ignore the standard exemption and assume
that the capital gains tax rate is the same as the income
tax rate:
The income I = ROR*MV
Income tax IT = I*ITR
After income tax income AITI = I-IT
After income tax rate of return AITROR = AITI/MV
Asset tax AT = MV*ATR
After asset tax income AATI = I-AT
After asset tax rate of return AATROR = AATI/MV
Now we can ask:
What how efficient does a business currently have to be in order
to prefer the NAT over the current tax system?
This is the same as asking:
At what values of ROR is AATI>AITI?
First let's set AATI=AITI:
I-AT = I-IT ; Substituting for AATI and AITI
I-MV*ATR = I-I*ITR ; Substituting for AT and IT
MV*ROR-MV*ATR = MV*ROR-MV*ROR*ITR ; Substituting for I
ROR-ATR = ROR-ROR*ITR ; Dividing by MV
1-ATR/ROR = 1-ITR ; Dividing by ROR
ATR/ROR = ITR ; Subtracting 1
ROR = ATR/ITR ; Solving for ROR
So if your BEFORE tax rate of return on net assets is greater than
the hypothetical asset tax rate divided by the income tax rate,
you want the NAT. If it is less, you want the present system.
In terms of current AFTER INCOME TAX rates of return, this translates to:
AITROR = AITI/MV ; Definition of AITROR
AITROR = (I-IT)/MV ; Substituting for AITI
AITROR = (I-I*ITR)/MV ; Substituting for IT
AITROR = (ROR*MV-ROR*MV*ITR)/MV ; Substituting for I
AITROR = ROR-ROR*ITR ; Simplifying
AITROR = (ATR/ITR-ITR*ATR/ITR) ; Substituting for ROR
AITROR = ATR/ITR-ATR ; Simplifying
AITROR = ATR*(1/ITR-1) ; Collecting ATR
So under current conditions (approximately)
Setting ATR = .06 ; Interest on national debt is about 6%
Setting ITR = .28 ; Income tax is about .28% (ignoring social
security)
AITROR = .06*(1/.28-1)
AITROR = .154
In other words, if our current after tax (ignoring social security tax)
income (including capital gains) is more than 15.4% of our net assets,
we benefit from the NAT. We'll call the AITROR at which we prefer
the NAT over the current tax system the "Critical AITROR". For each
Critical AITROR there is an implied "Critical AITI" which is simply
the level of after tax income one must be making under the current
income tax system, in order to prefer the NAT.
If we factor in the standard exemption (E) as well (still ignoring
social security tax relief) the Critical AITROR is given by the formula:
Critical AITROR = (1/ITR-1)*(1-E/MV)*ATR
The Critical AITI is given by:
Critical AITI = MV * Critical AITROR
Now,
Setting E = $100,000:
Critical AITROR = (1/.28-1)*(1-$100,000/MV)*.06
For various values of MV (market value of net assets), then the
Critical AITROR's (still ignoring social security tax relief) are:
MV Critical AITROR Critical AITI/YEAR
$0 - $100,000 0% $0
$150,000 5.1% $7650
$200,000 7.7% $15,400
$300,000 10.3% $31,200
$500,000 12.32% $61,600
$1,000,000 13.77% $137,700
These are the figures that are most relevant to wealthy retirees
and other individuals who pay no social security.
The most regressive of all taxes, Social Security payroll tax, is
at 15.3% of your income (I) up to $53,400 (split 7.65% for you and
your employer half and half). Taking this into account, for
incomes (I) up to $53,400, ITR is close to 40%, so adjusting
for social security, the critical AITROR without the exemption
is only 9%. With the exemption the formula is:
Critical AITROR = (1/.40-1)*(1-$100,000/MV)*.06
This formula is a good approximation for MV's up to approximately
$500,000. As MV values rise beyond $500,000, the Critical AITROR
factor of .40 decays, approaching .28.
For each level of net asset ownership, there is a critical after
income tax income (AITI) above which we prefer the NAT over the
current tax system. This critical AITI is simply the critical
after income tax rate of return one one's assets, multiplied
by one's assets.
Taking into account social security tax relief under the NAT, as
well as the $100,000 standard household exemption on net assets,
the critical AITI levels needed to prefer the NAT are:
For various values of MV (market value of net assets), the
levels of income we need to prefer the NAT over the current
tax system are approximately:
MV Critical AITROR Critical AITI/YEAR
$0 - $100,000 0% $0
$150,000 3% $4500
$200,000 4.5% $9000
$300,000 6% $18,000
$500,000 7.2% $36,000
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Change the tools and you change the rules.
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The first thing you did, today, for "Aryan, Whites" was to show your
contempt for them by spamming to these
newsgroups:alt.society.conservatism,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.politics.misc,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,soc.culture.usa,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.equality,alt.politics.correct,alt.discrimination,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.immigration,alt.president.clinton,triangle.politics,alt.news-media,alt.politics.media,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.nswpp,alt.skinheads
This is how you demonstrate "Leadership", by following the worst example
of corruption on the internet?
You already told me that when you were 17 you swore undying allegiance
to the Nazi Party and Adolf Hitler. You also were honored that I called
you a person like Sadaam Hussein or some other dicator who hates the
USA.
The fact of the matter is that you hate White people in America and you
would like to "CONTRIOL" them. You are upset that we have guaranteed
Constitutional Rights and YOU would like to take them away by destroying
America.
The only rights you want to advance are your own.
Well, you can't destroy America.
Herman
Charles Don Hall
In article <33A746...@earthlink.net>, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>THE POLITICAL PROGRAM OF THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST WHITE PEOPLE'S PARTY
>
>
> I. AN ARYAN REPUBLIC
>
> We demand the establishment of an independent Aryan republic on
>North American soil wherein only Aryans (White persons of unmixed,
>non-Semitic, European descent) shall reside or hold citizenship.
You can demand this all you want, but you're not going to get it.
Would you like some ice cream instead? I could probably spring for
a carton of Chocolate-Vanilla-Strawberry if you think it would cheer
you up.
[Followups to alt.politics.white-power, the only group where this
nonsense is appropriate.]
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grea...@mindspring.com
> >
> >
> > I. AN ARYAN REPUBLIC
> >
> > We demand the establishment of an independent Aryan republic on
> >North American soil wherein only Aryans (White persons of unmixed,
> >non-Semitic, European descent) shall reside or hold citizenship.
>
>
> Would you like some ice cream instead? I could probably spring for
> a carton of Chocolate-Vanilla-Strawberry if you think it would cheer
> you up.
>
> [Followups to alt.politics.white-power, the only group where this
> nonsense is appropriate.]
> --
>
> ===========================================================
> Charles Don Hall, Licensed Philosopher (ch...@eco.twg.com)
> ===========================================================
After all Winston stopped growing at 17, when he accepted the philosophy
of Adolf Hitler.
Perhaps some toy more suitable for a 17 year old would do. Remember he
stamps his feet when he gets angry.
Herman
Range
In article <33A746...@earthlink.net>, ns...@earthlink.net says...
> National Socialism is
>the only world view capable of advancing the vital interests of the Aryan
>(White) people in a world which is becoming increasingly non-White.
Hyeh. Feeling a bit threatened, are you, because of the way whites
have historically treated non-whites? I've always wondered what was
the reasoning behing the paranoia of the White Supremacist groups. I
think I finally understand.
Err, by the way, I'm fairly certain that non-whites have outnumbered
whites for quite a long time.
>The
>Party fights for the creation of a National Socialist Aryan Republic on
>the North American continent.
Sorry, I don't know of much unincorporated land in North America. Maybe
Canada will sell you a section near the arctic circle?
>Ultimately, the Party struggles along with
>our many comrades the world over for the creation of what the philosopher
>Francis Parker Yockey called the Imperium, a world order of peace,
>stability, progress and fulfillment based on the supremacy of the White
>race over the entire planet.
What a load. Sorry, your dream has been missed. That's what the
Europeans tried to do back in the 1500's through the 1800's and it
obviously didn't work.
> We demand the establishment of an independent Aryan republic on
>North American soil wherein only Aryans (White persons of unmixed,
>non-Semitic, European descent) shall reside or hold citizenship.
Good luck. There won't be many of you there. Most Americans are
mixed, and for that matter most of the planet is. All of it, depending
on how you look at it. From an Evolutionary view, there's obviously no
such thing as a "pure" any race. From a Christian religious view, we've
all come from Noah and his family so we're all the same race anyway.
For the record, I'm about as white as you can get by appearances, and
I'm mostly German, Scotch and Irish. But I'm also 1/4 American Indian.
I guess that disqualifies me from the club.
>This
>Aryan Republic shall be a free and sovereign nation whose government and
>citizens shall exercise full control over their internal affairs, their
>economy, their culture, and their foreign relations.
Doesn't sound very free OR soverign. Foreign relations? What, hiding
under a rock or shooting whenever someone the wrong shade gets too close?
> The basic building block of the new National Socialist society
>must be the traditional, nuclear two-parent family, with the gainfully
>employed husband and father as head of the family and the home-making
>wife and mother as its heart.
Oh yes, QUITE the free society.
> *Sexual perversions such as homosexuality, lesbianism,
Pssst..."Lesbianism" IS homosexuality. By whose authority does
homosexuality become a perversion?
>transvestism,
Going to keep a list of gender-appropriate clothing? Can women wear
jeans in this fantasy of yours? Can guys wear kilts? Kilts are good
proper Aryan fashion after all...but they DO look a lot like skirts.
>feminism,
Not sure what that has to do with being sexual or perverse.
>pornography, paedophilia,
What's paedophilia in your eyes? Until a hundred or two hundred years
ago, it was not uncommon for teens and even in some cases pre-teens to
get married off. Nopt that I disagree with pedophilia being illegal, but
the pre-industrial mode of thought normally associated with the rest of
your fantasy would suggest 13 is a perfectly acceptable age to be boffing,
if you're married.
> *Abortions will be performed only on foot of a court order in
>cases where the unborn child is determined by medical science to be
>deformed or mentally retarded. Abortion of a healthy Aryan child will be
>legally classed as a premeditated homicide and will be dealt with
>accordingly.
Oh. Deformed retards ain't human, maw! Jeeez. Howabout the mentally
deformed? Doesn't sound like many White Supremacists will be allowed
in. Funny, though, my fiance was born with mild CP (she's Lebanese and
so wouldn't be allowed in anyway so don't worry about it) that has
the effect of weakening the left side of her body. Other than that,
she's perfectly "normal." And yet, even though she is "deformed," she
has a job and is as much a contributing member of society as anyone else
(moronic race supremacists excluded). Amazing, eh?
Oh, and did I mention -- QUITE the free society you have there.
> The Aryan Republic acknowledges that the state bears a special
>responsibility to protect and promote our racial cultural heritage, and
>remove all alien influences from our art, our music, our literature, our
>drama and our cinema.
Hah! Doesn't sound like you'll have much that's current. Which is
fitting for your backwards society, I guess. Damn, you won't even
be allowed a Bible! You won't be allowed country music. You won't be
allowed any technology since so much of it was developed at least in
part by other races it's impossible to figure out which bits of tech
have no foreign influences built in -- probably NONE in the last 200
years anyway.
>This must be done in order that the innate artistic
>and cultural genius of our people can define and express itself without
>interference from the current Judaeo-liberal forces which have seized
>cultural hegemony throughout the Western world.
As you should have learned from your history books, a closed society
stagnates and dies rather quickly.
Hey! Come to think of it, I'm all for your White Supremacist society!
Good luck! Make sure you invite ALL known White Supremacists to join
you there.
>It is the duty of the
>state to protect its citizens from anti-White hate propaganda and
>spiritual pollution just as much as it is to defend them against physical
>and military aggression.
Ah, yes, state-sponsored censorship for the protection of the citizens.
That's QUITE the free society you have planned there. Have I mentioned
that?
> The Aryan Republic will encourage and invest in pure science, in
>research, and in the exploration of outer space as a matter of national
>policy.
Sorry, outer space has already been highly tainted by alien influences.
Not that I'll argue against it being a great place for your ilk.
>Our people must be turned
>away from their present path of materialism, cynicism, and egotism and
>become inspired by the racial idealism and rebirth of traditional Aryan
>values. By these values we mean such ideals as the strong nuclear family
>unit; the love and cherishing of White children;
You mean PERFECT white children.
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NSWPP
Transcript of Oklahoma City-KWTV Channel 9
(CBS affiliate) broadcast, 6 p.m. CDT, 06/16/97:
JENIFER REYNOLDS: Good evening. I'm Jenifer Reynolds.
KELLY OGLE: And I'm Kelly Ogle. Stephen Jones has a strong message for
the people of Oklahoma tonight.
REYNOLDS: He talked one-on-one with our Tamara Pratt and we will get to
that interview in just a moment.
OGLE: <snip weather alert> Well, the trial of the century may be
over...
REYNOLDS: ...but the work continues for Timothy McVeigh's defense team.
News 9's cameras caught up with Stephen Jones heading back into federal
court for a meeting with Judge Matsch this afternoon. Jones said this
closed-door conference was to take care of some administrative details.
He would not elaborate on the topics covered.
OGLE: Before that meeting, Jones sat down with News 9's Tamara Pratt
and Jones made a rather bold prediction. He claims Timothy McVeigh will
never be prosecuted in Oklahoma. Tamara is in our Denver Bureau now
with this latest revelation. Tamara?
TAMARA PRATT: Well, it may strike a raw nerve with many, Kelly, the idea
that Timothy McVeigh, that man who was found guilty and sentenced to die
for bombing the Murrah Building, would never and will never be back in
the State of Oklahoma to stand trial. It's a statement Stephen Jones
stands by, and in this interview you'll hear why.
STEPHEN JONES: If I thought the State of Oklahoma was really interested
in the truth as opposed to just some political side show, I would insist
that Mr. McVeigh have a state trial and demand that he be released to the
state authorities. But this is all politics.
PRATT: A political game, where Jones says his client is in the middle.
Jones claims the government will not allow a state trial because too many
doors would be opened up -- doors leading to conspiracy theories and
other players like Carol Howe: she's the ATF informant who claims to
have had prior knowledge of bombing plans -- all doors Jones says the
government wants kept closed.
JONES: But a living nightmare for the Department of Justice is an
Oklahoma state criminal trial -- not only a nightmare for them, but a
nightmare for the intelligence community, for the ATF. There isn't
going to be any Oklahoma trial.
PRATT: And Jones leaves Oklahomans with this word:
JONES: Don't let Bob Macy, don't let the Attorney General of Oklahoma,
don't let the federal government, Executive Branch, tell you that
they've solved the crime. Most assuredly, they have not.
PRATT: Now I asked Jones, "Do you think that we'll ever find out the
truth?" His response: "Probably not." But Jones did say that he
intends to do all he can to make sure that there is accountability for
what happened in Oklahoma City.
[END OF INTERVIEW]
"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its
mantle of strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker
Yockey, IMPERIUM
or further info contact http://www.nswpp.org
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[Courtesy of SPOTLIGHT]
Dear Fellow Americans:
Thank you very much for publishing my address in the May 19th
issue of THE SPOTLIGHT (Please note my new prison address below.) I
appreciate this solidarity -- and the solidarity it generates and
demonstrates to my captors -- very much.
My appeal was rejected. The German Federal Court claims my
defense was *not* hindered by the court's refusal to permit *any* defense
witnesses.
My "parole" or "half-sentence deportation" -- common for
non-German citizens, including convicted terrorists (!) -- was rejected
by German prosecutor Lange on the basis that, after returning to the
U.S.A. I would engage in publishing activity there! Yes, he openly
confessed to this (under U.S. law) crime of violating the civil rights of
a U.S. citizen in America!
Since April 14 I am being held in an eight-man hall. This
violates German law, which gives every prisoner the right to a one-man
cell. I am the only non-smoker here. These conditions have already
resulted in the flue, insomnia and weight loss. Repeated applications for
transfers to another cell -- even at the "hotel" medic's suggestion --
have been rejected. Letters from my German attorney have been
unsuccessful. Now he will sue the prison for bodily injury. (I have
been told that prison director Harry Weiss is personally behind this
harrassment.)
Drug use -- and dealing -- is an open and daily practice here in
this eight-man hall despite half-hearted searches by the guards. Razor
blades often litter the floor, necessitating wearing slippers during
nocturnal visits to the restroom.
Earlier, a German government official told me that I would not
leave Germany alive. I informed the U.S. consulate visitor Cynthia
Wittlesby during her last visit in December. So far, I have received no
word from her whatsoever regarding any U.S. government reaction to this
threat. If I die while in captivity, it is safe to presume it is murder.
Every American has the duty to defend the sovereignty and the
Constitution of the United States of America. The kidnapping of a U.S.
citizen for legally publishing a newspaper in America is an attack
against both this sovereignty and this Constitution. It is also a
violation of U.S. and international law. Above all, this is an extrely
dangerous precedent threatening the First Amendment rights of every
American who expresses his views in America and later travels abroad.
That is why this is so important.
To my knowledge, neither the German court nor the U.S. State
Department deny this illegality. The Hamburg judge simply said my show
trial was "a political" decision and the U.S. State Department, according
to press reports, claimed neutrality and non-involvement.
A few months after my conviction in August 1995, the German
attorney General stated in a *Spiegel* interview that he would arrest
American citizens visiting Germany if they have an Internet site in
America with information that is legal in America but illegal in Germany.
His excuse: it is "accessible" in German! Yes, the German police state
claims global jurisdiction! Even over Americans acting in America in
accordance with American law! (The United Nations is bad, but the
European Union is worse, because it has more "unity" and "teeth" -- teeth
provided by the German police state, the dominant power in a European
Union whose population and economic output exceed even those of the
U.S.A.)
Please continue to alert Americans of this growing threat to
their freedom. If my imprisonment -- and perhaps death -- help to do
that, then they will not be in vain.
Sincerely
(signed),
Gerhard Lauck
U.S. Citizen and Publisher
Political Prisoner of the German Police State
New Address: Anstalt I, Suhrenkamp 92
22335 Hamburg, GERMANY
"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its
mantle of strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker
Yockey, IMPERIUM
for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org
Range
In article <33A957...@earthlink.net>, ns...@earthlink.net says...
>
>Range wrote:
>Hyeh. Feeling a bit threatened, are you, because of the way whites
>> have historically treated non-whites?
>
>behavior, which has been the same down through time.
What, pray tell, is "non-White" behavior? For that matter, what
is "White" behavior?
>Sorry, I don't know of much unincorporated land in North America. Maybe
>> Canada will sell you a section near the arctic circle?
>
> We weren't planning on buying.
Well, you cain't take it over with guns, BobbyJoe, since you want to
exclude all alien influences. Gunpowder was invinted in china and
without it, there'd be no guns. So how exactly do you plan to acquire
this land?
> [rest of his drivel snipped]
Ah yes, the bits addressing specific flaws in your, um, logic. Wouldn't
want to participate in intelligent discourse, eh?
By the way, speaking of eliminating all alien influences...what language
do you plan to speak? I don't know any language that doesn't have plenty
of outside influence. Since the printing press was invented in China,
it seems you'll also have a tough time getting the word out. Do you
realize that the computer you're using now was probably assembled
somewhere in Asia, or at least is made of parts largely from Asia? How
can you live with yourself?
grea...@mindspring.com
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Range wrote:
> Hyeh. Feeling a bit threatened, are you, because of the way whites
> > have historically treated non-whites?
>
Here's some white behavior so you can see how superior it is to
non-whites:
Eyewitness Account of Einsatz Executions
On October 5, 1942, by accident, Hermann Graebe, a German engineer and
manager of a German
construction firm in the Ukraine, and his foreman, came upon an Einsatz
execution squad killing Jews
from the small town of Dubno in the Ukraine. He gave the following
eyewitness account:
"My foreman and I went directly to the pits. Nobody bothered us. Now I
heard rifle shots in quick
succession from behind one of the earth mounds. The people who had got
off the trucks - men,
women and children of all ages - had to undress upon the order of an SS
man who carried a riding
or dog whip. They had to put down their clothes in fixed places, sorted
according to shoes, top
clothing and undergarments. I saw heaps of shoes of about 800 to 1000
pairs, great piles of
under-linen and clothing. Without screaming or weeping these people
undressed, stood around in
family groups, kissed each other, said farewells, and waited for a sign
from another SS man, who
stood near the pit, also with a whip in his hand. During the fifteen
minutes I stood near, I heard no
complaint or plea for mercy. I watched a family of about eight persons,
a man and a woman both of
about fifty, with their children of about twenty to twenty-four, and two
grown-up daughters about
twenty-eight or twenty-nine. An old woman with snow white hair was
holding a one year old child in
her arms and singing to it and tickling it. The child was cooing with
delight. The parents were looking
on with tears in their eyes. The father was holding the hand of a boy
about ten years old and
speaking to him softly; the boy was fighting his tears. The father
pointed to the sky, stroked his head
and seemed to explain something to him. At that moment the SS man at the
pit started shouting
something to his comrade. The latter counted off about twenty persons
and instructed them to go
behind the earth mound. Among them was the family I have just mentioned.
I well remember a girl,
slim with black hair, who, as she passed me, pointed to herself and
said, "twenty-three years old." I
walked around the mound and found myself confronted by a tremendous
grave. People were closely
wedged together and lying on top of each other so that only their heads
were visible. Nearly all had
blood running over their shoulders from their heads. Some of the people
shot were still moving.
Some were lifting their arms and turning their heads to show that they
were still alive. The pit was
nearly two-thirds full. I estimated that it already contained about a
thousand people. I looked for the
man who did the shooting. He was an SS man, who sat at the edge of the
narrow end of the pit, his
feet dangling into the pit. He had a tommy-gun on his knees and was
smoking a cigarette. The
people, completely naked, went down some steps which were cut in the
clay wall of the pit and
clambered over the heads of the people lying there to the place to which
the SS man directed them.
They lay down in front of the dead or wounded people; some caressed
those who were still alive
and spoke to them in a low voice. Then I heard a series of shots. I
looked into the pit and saw that
the bodies were twitching or the heads lying already motionless on top
of the bodies that lay beneath
them. Blood was running from their necks. The next batch was approaching
already. They went
down into the pit, lined themselves up against the previous victims and
were shot"
grea...@mindspring.com
Poor baby! Have the nasty German police not treated you so nice?
And you, such a wonderful example of intelligence and youth. You who
have been so kind and considerate to others that such a God would permit
such a noble person like you to suffer such indignity.
Certainly the Jews must be behind this. Oh I forgot, the Jews are dead.
Well then we must blame someone, anyone except yourself of course.
Speaking of "course". Such terrible roomates. Tch.Tch. Try a different
class of people. But don't worry Gerhard, if people like the NWSSP
succeed in convincing other idiots, they too could be as successful as
yourself.
Did you ever figure out why you are in jail and the millions of
productive people in Germany are not? It doesn't take an "Einstein" to
figure it out, does it?
Herman (out in the fresh air)
NSWPP
Range wrote:
Hyeh. Feeling a bit threatened, are you, because of the way whites
> have historically treated non-whites?
No, actually we feel threatened because of non-White
behavior, which has been the same down through time.
Sorry, I don't know of much unincorporated land in North America. Maybe
> Canada will sell you a section near the arctic circle?
We weren't planning on buying.
[rest of his drivel snipped]
Sigismundo Malatesta
En articulo <33A957...@earthlink.net>,<33A957...@earthlink.net>
you say .in order to suppress rumours that you engaged in anal
intercourse with the corpse of Alma Rubens...
>
>Range wrote:
>Hyeh. Feeling a bit threatened, are you, because of the way whites
>> have historically treated non-whites?
>
>behavior, which has been the same down through time.
influence of Southern Europeans the nordic peoples would be in the same
condition as black Africans. For centuries their behaviour was no
different than nonwhites, but they changed thanks to the influence of
civilised Southern European peoples such as Italians and Greeks, and I
will include Jews in this as well. Given as the ancient Germanic tribes
were enemies of white civilisation, credit must be given to the Jews for
imparting upon them civilised values and changing them from one of the
most frightening barbaric groupd of all.Still the acts of savagery
perpetuated by whites rank with anything done by Africans, Asians or
Mesoamericans, if not even more so ; the nordic strain of the white race
especially. This is why I laugh when so-called " white " activists say
that italians and Spaniards, Greeks as well, are somehow less white than
Scandinavians, when the reverse is the truth. As late as Voltaire's time
Scandinavia was considered outside the mainstream of western Europe, and
all of northern Europe would have never became civilised if not for the
influence of the southern Europeans. The so-called innate greatness did
not exist, and the high accomplishment of the Germans comes from them
being one of the most mixed peoples in Europe as one would expect of the
most invaded nation, contrary to the cocaine-crazed paranoiac delusions
of a bisexual paedophile named Schickelgruber...-SM
>Sorry, I don't know of much unincorporated land in North America.
Maybe
>> Canada will sell you a section near the arctic circle?
>
NSWPP
Sigismundo Malatesta wrote:
[imbecile comments snipped]
(sigh)...Look, I know that facts and truth have nothing to do
with liberalism, but don't you really think that comments about the
Fuhrer Adolf Hitler such as you made are so childish and so demonstrably
untrue that you really ought to at least have enough basic respect for
truth to refrain from making them?
The Fuhrer Adolf Hitler never, ever bore the name of
Shickelgruber. This DID NOT HAPPEN. It IS NOT TRUE. Do you understand
the nature of the term NOT TRUE? Jesus, does ANYBODY anymore?
There is NO EVIDENCE---none at all, not anywhere, not any
time---that the Fuhrer was anything other than normally heterosexual, as
witness his known liasons with women such as Geli Raubal, Unity Mitford,
and Eva Braun. Even hostile biographers who retain some faint, vestigial
respect for scholarship and truth acknowledge this.
I know that given the complete disregard for truth and basic
honesty displayed by certain people on "my side", i.e. the National
Alliance, it is difficult for me to castigate Jews or anyone else for
lying. At times I despair that the whole concept of truth as an absolute
value, worthy for its own sake, will ever be recovered in our society.
But one of the reasons I keep slogging on pointing out inconvenient
truths (like the fact that Bill Pierce is a fraud and that Nizkor are
liars) is the desire to have some small part in resisting the
overwhelming predominance of The Lie in all its forms.
You honestly have no idea what I'm talking about, do you...?
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
NSWPP
WHO IS GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL?
George Lincoln Rockwell was born in Bloomington, Illinois, in the
home of his maternal grandfather, on March 9, 1918. His father was a very
successful headline comedian from 1912 until about 1935. His ancestors
were German, French, English, and Scotch, numbering among them many
Revolutionary War figures and going back to Marie Antoinette, the French
Queen.
Rockwell stayed in Bloomington, Illinois, only until he was old
enough to get out of the hospital, when he was taken on the vaudeville
circuit by his parents. He then spent some time in New Jersey, New York,
and California, but most of his youthn was spent in Boothbay Harbor,
Maine. He attended Hebron Academy, a prep school near Lewiston, Maine
after which he entered Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island,
majoring in philosophy. In college, Rockwell enjoyed and did well in the
sciences and other objective courses, but fought blindly and
instinctively against the "sociology" and other similar departments
which, unknown to him, were then preaching the Marxist environmentalism
and equalism which has played such havoc with our human, biological
sciences.
Leaving Brown in the middle of his junior year in 1940, when it
became obvious that the U.S. would get into World War Two, Rockwell
enlisted as a seaman in the United States Navy in Boston, Massachusetts.
By the outbreak of World War Two on December 7, 1941 he had entered naval
aviation, and became a scout pilot and a fighter pilot. He served aboard
the U. S. S. Omaha in the South Atlantic and off North Africa during the
invasion. He was then sent to the Naval Photographic School for pilots
and assigned to the U.S.S. Wasp, and from there went to the Pacific
theater. He became a Commander of Forward Air Control Operations for
Marine Corps assault troops. He was at Guadalcanal, Guam, and other
Pacific hot spots. At the end of World War II he was commanding officer
of a squadron in Hawaii, earning nine decorations.
Released from active duty, Rockwell attended Pratt Institute art
school in New York, working part time in advertising and commercial art.
In 1948, while still at Pratt, he won first prize of $1,000 in the
National Society of Illustrators competition for a full page newspaper ad
for the American Cancer Society. Although still in the ready reserves as
Commanding Officer of a squadron in Washington, D.C. he launched a new
magazine, "U. S. Lady", for the wives of U. S. service men. In 1949,
Rockwell founded the first big national advertising agency in the state
of Maine. Recalled for the Korean War in 1950, he trained Marine and Navy
pilots in close support of troops and then was transferred to Iceland,
where he became commanding officer of a squadron at Keflavik.
At about this time he became deeply concerned about the way all
he had fought for in two wars was being turned over to Communism. He
noticed that almost all of the convicted Communist spies and traitors
such as Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Nathan Silvermaster, Harry Dexter
White (Weiss), Robert Soblen, Morton Sobell, David Greenglass, Judith
Coplon, Harry Gold, Miriam Moskowitz, Fred Rosenberg, and Sam Cohen
(chief Communist spies caught in Canada) and most of the Communist
intellectual leaders such as Herbert and Bettina Aptheker, were racial
Jews. He was especially shocked to find that "Who's Who In World Jewry",
published b the Jews themselves, listed many of these atheist Communists
very proudly as Jews, even though Rockwell then believed Jews were just a
religion.
Observing that Hitler had said that Communism was Jewish, and
that the Jews were out to degenerate and conquer the White race by
subversion and race-mixing, Rockwell bought a copy of MEIN KAMPF and read
it, even though he thought he already knew what was in it from all he'd
heard. He was astounded to find that it was actually a brilliant analysis
of the mess Western Civilization had gotten into, and the only plan he'd
ever seen for the White race to save itself.
For a number of years, he tried to work with various "right wing"
organizations, all of whom believed, as he did for a while, that it was
necessary to disguise one's belief in Adolf Hitler and National
Socialism. Finally disgusted with the emptiness, the weakness, the
hypocrisy and especially the cowardice of the so-called "conservatives",
Rockwell determined to ATTACK at last, flying the Swastika banner which
had come so close to saving Western civilization and the White race.
"Since our Cause is fundamentally the truth," he explained to horrified
friends, "I do not see how we can win by lying or misrepresenting what we
are for fear of the Jews. The only time in the hundred years of the rise
of Communism that this plague has ever actually been BEATEN, it was
beaten not by 'conservatives' but by radicals and fighters whom the enemy
called Nazis and Fascists and whom they really did fear. Only in Germany,
Spain and Italy has Communism ever been conquered. We are damned fools to
be afraid to follow the only examples that ever worked!"
He hung up a Nazi banner in front of his home and dared the Jews
to do something about it. They---and their friends and dupes---came in
droves and mobs to do something about it, but Rockwell survived all the
shooting, the rocks and other Jewish "arguments". The publicity gave him
a much-needed platform from which to call the attention of his fellow
Americans to the increasingly desperate situation of America and our
great White family of peoples.
Rockwell believed it was time for the White man to take America
back from the aliens, the minorities, and the terrorists in power, under
the demagoguery of cheap politicians. To accomplish this Rockwell
believed he had to win not the few in the right wing, or the upper
classes, but the millions and millions of our people. And to win these
people he had to offer them something besides a lot of empty platitudes
about freedom and the Constitution. Only National Socialism offered a
positive and progressive program for ALL Aryan people, rather than just
the middle and upper classes, and combined a concern for the purity and
protection of the White race with a fighting determination to stop all
further mongrelization of our people.
Within five years Rockwell had led the Nazi Party from a tiny and
scorned band of roughnecks willing to take to the streets to fight
treason and race-mixing, to a Party which had headquarters in Washington,
Chicago, Los Angeles, and most major cities, and commanded the grudging
respect of the enemy, even though there was powerful censorship of the
American right to know what Rockwell was doing.
Under Commander Rockwell, the Party published the ROCKWELL
REPORT, the STORMTROOPER, and the NATIONAL SOCIALIST WORLD, along with
bulletins for Party members only. Rockwell had plans to organize the
White Guard---young, White fighting men to help protect society from the
black and Red revolution which had already conquered the police
departments of Los Angeles, Chicago, Cleveland and many other cities.
George Lincoln Rockwell is the father of the present-day
racialist movement in the U.S. and the founder of American National
Socialism. For most of his turbulent career as Commander of the A.N.P,
Rockwell lived a shadowy existence on the fringes of the American
political scene. He was misunderstood and rejected by the vast majority
of his fellow White Americans, whom he loved dearly. He and his tiny band
of "roughnecks" were alternately cursed, ridiculed and ignored by the
mass media. They fought street battles without end against Communist and
Jewish thugs who sought to silence them by force, and spent many a night
in jail, courtesy of hostile politicians and police officers. Throughout
it all, Lincoln Rockwell's warrior spirit of courage, idealism, and
heroic defiance was never crushed.
His years of persistence finally paid off in 1966, when thousands
of White men, women, and youth in Chicago followed his leadership in a
spontaneous uprising against efforts forcibly to integrate all-White
working class neighborhoods. The uprising culminated in the now-famous
White People's March of September 10th, 1966, in which hundreds of Whites
followed Commander Rockwell's leadership under the sign of the Swastika.
Tragically, within a year Lincoln Rockwell was dead. On August
25th, 1967 this authentic American hero was murdered in Arlington,
Virginia, under circumstances which have never been satisfactorily
cleared up but which point very heavily towards the Jewish
Anti-Defamation League, and also to at least some involvement on the part
of the man who seized control of the Nazi headquarters and "succeeded"
Rockwell. The trigger man was later convicted and received a short prison
term; his accomplices in the corridors of power and the traitor within
the headquarters who made the phone call telling the gunman where
Rockwell would be were never charged or punished.
Yet although Lincoln Rockwell died on that dark Friday in August,
his heroic spirit lives on in the hearts and minds of White men and women
everywhere who continue to draw inspiration from his mighty example. The
Party he founded was reconstituted in 1994, and you may obtain further
information by writing to the N.S.W.P.P., P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill,
N.C. 27515-9444, U.S.A.
HEIL HITLER!
NSWPP
The post preceding this one is a forgery.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
NSWPP
August 14, 1996
Dear Racial Comrades:
These bulletins are really taking off; I get new "subscribes"
just about every time I log on. I've also gotten enough reader questions
from you to give me topics for the next two dozen bulletins: I'll start
dealing with some of them today.
One of these questions was a blast from the past: "I have heard a
lot about your famous duel with [homosexual and Jewish cult guru]
Benny Klassen. How did it all start? What was the original beef?"
Well...I suppose I could go over it all again, but for a change
of pace, what I think I'll do is republish a poem I wrote in 1989 which
pretty much explains how it got started.
A few comments first. This original decomposition was written
when I was living on Dixie Trail in Raleigh, working in the political
medium of Southern Nationalism (hence the "Gray Rider" references), and
this was also before the COTC murders began, back when I could still
laugh at it all. The laughter soon stopped. I might add that this poem is
what Will Williams usually offers as alleged proof that I'm a Christian,
which as it happens I'm not, but what a strange accusation! So what if I
was?
I had, as the poem states, sued Klassen and Will Williams for
defamation of character; Klassen put his property up for sale the first
time, fled the state and Williams went into hiding. (I later found out he
was in Blowing Rock, N.C. and still receiving a heavy cash subsidy from
Klassen even though by then he had formally left the organization.)
Neither showed up for the initial court hearing in Franklin, N.C.
in December of 1989. I very stupidly dropped the lawsuit because I
couldn't afford to keep driving back and forth to the mountains if
Klassen and Williams weren't going to show, and also because I was under
a lot of pressure from within the Movement because I was being
"unethical" by suing Klassen. (Where have we heard that before?)
Apparently Klassen accusing me of being a Federal agent was just Business
As Usual; my compelling him to appear in a court of law and offer
substantiated proof of his allegation was "unethical". Later, when I
published written statements from young men who had been sexually abused
and propositioned by Klassen, they were simply ignored. Like so much
else in Our Thing, "proof" has become an elastic and essentially
meaningless concept which alters its nature depending on who is
doing the proving on whom and whose ox is being gored. Yep, sounds like
the Movement to me.
I offer this poetic venture not so much as a jig upon the grave
of Old Benny Buttfuck as I do a memento of a more innocent time in my
life before I got a good dose of the moral relativism and situation
ethics which has now completely co-opted the Movement.
As a final remark, I recently showed the poem to a comrade and
pointed out that the lawsuit hadn't gone quite as well as I had hoped
when I wrote it. The man looked at it thoughtfully. "I don't know,
Winston," he said. "This sounds almost like what happened to Bill Pierce
over the very same piece of property, in front of a jury full of
mountaineers. You were pretty close to the mark: the owner of that jinxed
property ended up losing his shirt in court. Sure you're not psychic?"
No. It's just that more so than most, Movement history has a
habit of repeating itself, given our complete inability to learn from it.
At any rate, ladies and gentlemen, for your poetasting
delectation:
THE SONG OF KLASSAWATHA
[with deepest apologies to the
shade of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow]
In the Carolina mountains
By the misty pine-topped summits
Stood the wigwam of Ben Klassen.
Anti-Christian sachem Klassen,
Sending forth screeds long and rambling
Telling of his half-baked world view.
Many moons the Great One sat there
Deep ensconced in contemplation,
Making up strange Latin titles.
Comic and absurd, those titles,
Sounding like those vile diseases
Which are of a social nature.
Klassen him have heap big wampum,
Pay for all that fancy printing.
To his wigwam came ass-kissers,
Smack smack slurp slurp sloop sloop slop slop
Bowing down to Klassen's wampum
Telling him that he's the Big Chief.
Then there came unto the wigwam
Mighty warrior Will Williams
Telling Klassen, "I've got contacts.
Many Klan and right-wing contacts.
Give to me a Latin title
And I'll make them all Creators."
Then unto the Christian lowlands
Bore he Klassen's White Man's Babble.
But they gave him Many Ha-Ha,
Ha ha ho ho hoo hoo hee hee,
Laughing at his weird religion
And the mighty Klassen's drivel.
By the stores of Cameron Village
By the winding Trail of Dixie
Stood the lodge of the Gray Rider
Battle-scarred, the gray-clad rider
Spoke with tongue of talking paper
Of the nation of his fathers.
To the lodge there came Will Williams
Speaking with the tongue of Klassen.
"Come embrace the true religion!
Dump this Jesus Freak religion!"
Spoke the rider, "Thanks, but no thanks.
Suicide is not my game plan."
Then arose the sachem Klassen,
Black with wrath, in tones of thunder.
"I'll destroy this haughty Rebel!
Vaporize this haughty Rebel!
With my deadly pen this Rebel
I'll discredit for all ages!"
One full page the Great One ranted
Calling down foul maledictions
On the head of the Gray Rider.
Many names he called the Rider,
Till Ben screwed up really major
Naming him a CIA man.
Then unto the misty pine-hills
To the wigwam of Ben Klassen
Came a deputy in khaki,
Bringing there a talking paper
Which he handed unto Klassen
Hauling him to court for libel.
In the courtroom lodge Ben Klassen
Faced a dozen silent hunters,
Warriors of the tribe of Jesus,
Digging not his creed or wigwam
There among their people's mountains.
Thinking, "Now let's boot this asshole!"
On the witness stand Ben Klassen
Faced the grim-voiced rebel rider.
"You have said I am an agent,
Printed here that I'm an agent,
Told the world that I'm an agent.
Okay, loud mouth---now you PROVE it!"
Then Ben Klassen started sweating
Tried to backtrack, tried to bluster.
On and on the old fool waffled,
Booga booga booga booga.
Till the judge said, "Can you prove it?"
'Twas a lie, and so he couldn't.
Now among the misty mountains
Silence reigns along the valleys,
Save for Christian hymns on Sunday
Wafting from the hillside churches.
Since the jury told Ben Klassen,
"Give to Covington your wampum!"
Gone the wigwam from the mountains,
Gone the funny little emblem,
Gone the stacks of White Man's Babbles
Sold to pay the crushing judgment.
Gone the Great One from the hill lands,
Marked forever as a liar.
grea...@mindspring.com
Why would anyone forge a post to a sweet innocent spammer like yourself?
Don't you like having contempt for decency? Here's your spam:
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Herman
grea...@mindspring.com
Oden wrote:
>
> NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
> <33A746...@earthlink.net>...
> >
> After reading this program, I am very glad that I joined the National
> Alliance.
Was it because of the Turner Diaries or the success of Timothy McVeigh's
great contribution to America?
You too can be a failure if you work on it.
Herman
Oden
Will Williams
"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
> WHO IS GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL?
[snip]
> ...Yet although Lincoln Rockwell died on that dark Friday in August,
>his heroic spirit lives on in the hearts and minds of White men and women
>everywhere who continue to draw inspiration from his mighty example. The
>Party he founded was reconstituted in 1994, and you may obtain further
>information by writing to the N.S.W.P.P., P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill,
>N.C. 27515-9444, U.S.A.
> HEIL HITLER!
Heil Hitler, indeed!
Now, just who, besides one Harold A. Covington, authorized the
so-called "reinstitution" of your "NSWPP"? This is a serious question
which I've asked you at least 50 times, Harold. You always give that
"illegitimate cardboard under'im" crap as an answer. Come on...
Who REALLY is the "NSWPP"?
Will Williams
"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
[snip numerous fantasies of Wierd Harold]
>THE SONG OF KLASSAWATHA
>[with deepest apologies to the
>shade of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow]
Covington originally published this poem under the title, THE SONG OF
MUTHAFUCKA. He has since changed the title in an attempt to trick the
uncritical reader into thinking he is not the crude SOB that we all
know him to be. He must have been drunk when he wrote this:
So, why did you drop you libel suit?
>On the witness stand Ben Klassen
>Faced the grim-voiced rebel rider.
>"You have said I am an agent,
>Printed here that I'm an agent,
>Told the world that I'm an agent.
>Okay, loud mouth---now you PROVE it!"
>"Loudish" wrote on 'triangle.politics':
>>
>> The smoking gun on Harold Covington can be found in the records of the
>> United States District Court, Western District, North Carolina, Asheville
>> Division, Criminal Case # A-CR-81-11, pages 4, 5, 232, and 313 when
>> Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF) agent Michael Sweat
>> is on the witness stand and states that Harold Covington was working as
>> an informant for the BATF when he lead the National Socialist Party of
>> America from Raleigh, NC.
>>
>> Covington had convinced Nazi Party member Frank Braswell into planting
>> a bomb to protest the Greensboro 16 Trial. Covington, according to the
>> sworn testimony of BATF agent Sweat, called and made arrangements
>> for agent Sweat to meet and arrest Comrade Braswell. Covington came up
>> with the story that he and ZOG agent Sweat were White racists comrades
>> in the Rhodesian Army in the mid-70s. Covington told Braswell that Sweat
>> would help him make the bombs.
>>
>> Instead, Sweat arrested Braswell for plotting to bomb ZOG buildings. Sweat
>> stated in court that Harold Covington was working as a BATF "under-cover
>> contact" within the Nazi Party. Covington also had BATF agent Bernie
>> Butkovich arrest Wayne Wood, and Covington handed the entire mailing
>> list of the N.S.P.A. over to BATF agent Michael Allen.
>>
>> Also, an Associated Press (AP) wire on June 25, 1981 entitled,
>> "Covington Named in Nazi Trial," stated that Harold Covington was a police
>> informant for the BATF and helped the government arrest 6 Nazis in a bomb
>> plot.
>>
>> This AP wire appeared in thousands of newspapers throughout the U.S.
>> and the world.
>>
>> It was rumored that Covington fled the U.S. for South Africa after the
>> Greensboro 16 trial only to reappear in the last couple of years to
>> found the NSWPP. Considering his past history you may wonder
>> what role the NSWPP plays. I suppose you need to draw your own
>> conclusions.
>Then Ben Klassen started sweating
>Tried to backtrack, tried to bluster.
>On and on the old fool waffled,
>Booga booga booga booga.
>Till the judge said, "Can you prove it?"
>'Twas a lie, and so he couldn't.
The judge said,"Twas a lie," all right.
>Now among the misty mountains
>Silence reigns along the valleys,
>Save for Christian hymns on Sunday
>Wafting from the hillside churches.
>Since the jury told Ben Klassen,
>"Give to Covington your wampum!"
>Gone the wigwam from the mountains,
>Gone the funny little emblem,
>Gone the stacks of White Man's Babbles
>Sold to pay the crushing judgment.
>Gone the Great One from the hill lands,
>Marked forever as a liar.
NO!...
Gone the 'puter from the bunker,
Gone the phoney NSNet,
Gone the chubby gensec rabbi,
Had to find another life.
Gone the wordsmith from the bunker,
Marked forever as a liar.
I like that line. Talk about twisted irony.
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[long silly attempt at a poem pastiche snipped]
Q. How was the Grand Canyon formed?
A. A Jew dropped a quarter down a gopher hole.
NSWPP
Isaac and Hymie were two tired Brooklyn businessmen who were
ordered to take a Caribbean cruise by their doctors. The second night out
on the way to Martinique they were leaning against the rail, looking at
the big bright tropical moon on the sea, really starting to unwind.
Suddenly the rail broke and both Jews fell screaming into the
ocean. They came up gasping and spluttering and saw the ship sailing away
from them into the darkness. As Isaac had fallen overboard he had managed
to grab a life preserver, and now he clung to it, desperately treading
water. "Hyman!" he called out, "Hyman, can you float alone?"
"Oy vay!" called out Hymie from the dark waters. "Vat a time to
talk business!"
Will Williams
Izzy Bob Rabinowitz wrote
>"NSWPP" (Myron Silverstein) wrote:
>>The post preceding this one is a forgery.
I don't forge posts and I've never used any other name than
"whitewil." I like the way the Irgun gangleader, Bawb Alpert, clears
up the "Williams Forges Post" fantasy of the "NSWPP":
>Learn how Usenet works, clueless newbie. Messages may arrive in
>any order and may be threaded by subject and/or cross-reference,
>depending on the newsreader involved.
>In short, in many cases there may not be a way to deterimine
>exactly which is the "post preceding this one."
>Bob Alpert
Boy, I'm in my element when I can prompt MOSSAD Bawb to nail Covington
for me. I notice this from Ken McVay too:
>...Anyone with a functioning brain can figure the first [question] out by
>learning to use a web browser, which explains why Mr. Covington and
>Mr. Grosvenor haven't.
And this:
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/c/covington-harold/
Thanks guys! I'll check it out. Maybe we can trade notes about our Mr.
Covingstein. We seem to have reached a consensus about something
finally.
Nobody, not even Nizkoreans, like a liar as big as Harold Covington.
NSWPP
nos...@bucket.bit wrote:
[drivel snipped]
Q. How was copper wire invented?
A. Two Jews were fighting over a penny.
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[hysterical drivel snipped]
Q. What happens to Welsh faggots with AIDS?
A. They Dai Young.
[Courtesy of a Welsh comrade]
grea...@mindspring.com
Given the modern technology that led to this marvelous internet and the
marvels of communications- it takes a degenerate, weak minded, neo-Nazi
to use these marvels for the distribution for garbage like the typical
post above.
Herman
Insectus Pentius
grea...@mindspring.com wrote:
: Poor baby! Have the nasty German police not treated you so nice?
: And you, such a wonderful example of intelligence and youth. You who
: have been so kind and considerate to others that such a God would permit
: such a noble person like you to suffer such indignity.
Why is Gary Lauck whigning? He has a chance of a lifetime to perfect his
fake German accent! All the better for when the idiot comes back and makes
hate tapes with his own German-accent voice-over! By now, he should be
able to do a German accent so well while speaking German that he could
fool a native. Also, if you can do an accent in one language, there's no
reason he couldn't do the NEW IMPROVED(tm) version in English.
I can only wonder if he does his accent when he drinks Beck's.
This coming from a born and raised Chicagoan with an Australian drinking
accent. (Usable in English and Spanish.)
--
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http://www.ripco.com/~pentius/
Sigismundo Malatesta
In article <33AB41...@earthlink.net>, ns...@earthlink.net says...
>
>Sigismundo Malatesta wrote:
> [imbecile comments snipped]
>
> (sigh)...Look, I know that facts and truth have nothing to do
>with liberalism, but don't you really think that comments about the
>Fuhrer Adolf Hitler such as you made are so childish and so
demonstrably
>untrue that you really ought to at least have enough basic respect for
>truth to refrain from making them?
everywhere and everything ? The pendejo was the ultimate race traitor,
nobody in history killed that many white people.
> The Fuhrer Adolf Hitler never, ever bore the name of
>Shickelgruber. This DID NOT HAPPEN. It IS NOT TRUE. Do you understand
>the nature of the term NOT TRUE? Jesus, does ANYBODY anymore?
> There is NO EVIDENCE---none at all, not anywhere, not any
>time---that the Fuhrer was anything other than normally heterosexual,
as
>witness his known liasons with women such as Geli Raubal, Unity
Mitford,
>and Eva Braun. Even hostile biographers who retain some faint,
vestigial
>respect for scholarship and truth acknowledge this.
forced her to comply with them in detail - things that involved blood,
feces, and having him whipped. She was murdered by the Nazis for
revealing the bedroom secrets of Hitler. Geli Raubal was killed for the
same reason - because she also intended to kiss and tell, such that the
Nazis would have lost the election.Perhaps if he had faced the
consequences of having his lovers killed all those Jews would be happily
procreating all over Europe and driving the pure Aryan type to
extinction ( which in reality happened a long time ago ).If he was so
normal why was he so scared of these women that he had them killed ? And
why did guys who were sympathetic enough to Hitler like Mussolini and
Franco also come to these conclusions ?
>honesty displayed by certain people on "my side", i.e. the National
>Alliance, it is difficult for me to castigate Jews or anyone else for
>lying. At times I despair that the whole concept of truth as an
absolute
>value, worthy for its own sake, will ever be recovered in our society.
>But one of the reasons I keep slogging on pointing out inconvenient
>truths (like the fact that Bill Pierce is a fraud and that Nizkor are
>liars) is the desire to have some small part in resisting the
>overwhelming predominance of The Lie in all its forms.
NSWPP
Sigismundo Malatesta wrote:
[silliness snipped]
The little nigger boy asked his mother what a nun was? and she
replied, "She is a woman that hasn't had none and don't want none."
The child then repluied, "How come there ain't no nigger nuns,
is there mamma?"
Klaus Günther Beck
Let me quote MR. Spock for You here on the question of his captain what
this was all about:
"Very bad poetry, captain."
P.S.: I do not believe a word he is saying.
Klaus Günther Beck
A Nazi looked into a mirror and really did something for the benefit of
his race.
Klaus Günther Beck
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Will Williams wrote:
>
> [hysterical drivel snipped]
>
> Q. What happens to Welsh faggots with AIDS?
>
> A. They Dai Young.
>
> [Courtesy of a Welsh comrade]
show You are homophobic. Don´t be afraid.
NSWPP
[I know this one is a bit esoteric, but the Jews have always
hollered and moaned about this particular episode, and seeing as how
Queen Isabella was so foresighted as to hock her jewels to finance
Columbus's voyage, I'd say we owe her and Ferd a chance to speak for
themselves from the void of 500 years. English translation courtesy of
Brian Kennedy. - WS]
**********************************************
THE EDICT OF EXPULSION -- MARCH 31st, 1492
ISABEL and Fernando signed their names on March 31, 1492, to
a document commencing thus:
"You know, or ought to know, that since we were informed
that there were certain evil Christians in these our realms
who Judaized and apostatized from our Holy Catholic Faith,
on account of the considerable communication of Jews with
Christians, we commanded the said (Jews) in the Cortes which
we held in the city of Toledo in the past year 1480, to go
apart in all the cities, towns and places of our realms . . .
and gave them Jewries and separate places where they
might live, hoping that with their segregation the matter
might be remedied. And moreover we have endeavored and given
orders to have inquisition made in our said realms and
seignories; which, as you know, has been done for more than
twelve years, and is done; and many guilty persons have been
sentenced by it, as is well known. . . . (Yet) there remains
and is apparent the great injury to the Christians which has
resulted and does result from the participation,
conversation and communication which they have held and hold
with the Jews, who have demonstrated that they would always
endeavor, by all possible ways and manners, to subvert and
draw away faithful Christians from our Holy Catholic Faith,
and separate them from it, and attract and pervert them to
their wicked belief and opinion, instructing them in the
ceremonies and observances of their law, holding fasts
during which they read and teach them what they have to
believe and observe according to their law, causing them and
their sons to be circumcized . . . notifying them of the
Passover feasts before they come . . . giving them and
taking to them from their houses unleavened bread and meat
slaughtered with ceremonies. . . persuading them as far as
possible to hold and observe the law of Moses, giving them
to understand that there was no other true law but that; the
which is clear from many utterances and confessions, not
only by the Jews themselves, but by those who were perverted
and injured by them, which has resulted in great harm,
detriment and opprobrium to our Holy Catholic Faith.
"For when some serious and detestable crime is committed by
certain ones of a certain college or university, it is right
that the college or university be dissolved and annulled,
and that the lesser be punished for the greater and the ones
for the others; and that those who pervert the good and
honest life of cities and towns by the contamination that
can injure others be expelled from among the people, even
for more trifling causes which are injurious to the
public. How much more so for the greatest, most perilous
and most contagious of crimes, as this is?
"On this account, we with the counsel and advice of many
prelates and noblemen and cavaliers of our realms, and of
other persons of knowledge and conscience in our council,
having given much deliberation to the subject, have decided
to command all of the said Jews, men and women, to leave our
kingdoms, and never to return to them. All but those who
choose to be baptized shall depart by the first day of July
and not return under pain of death and confiscation. Any who
receive or shelter the Jews after the date assigned shall have
all their goods confiscated. But until the time appointed all Jews
shall remain under the royal protection, and no one shall hurt
them or their property under pain of death. The Jews may take out
of Spain no gold, silver, minted money, nor other things forbidden by
the laws of our kingdoms, save in merchandise not prohibited
or concealed."
***********************
TIMOTHY GUEGUEN
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Oden (nab...@voicenet.com) wrote:
: NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
: <33A746...@earthlink.net>...
: >
: After reading this program, I am very glad that I joined the National
: Alliance.
Funny, from what little I remember from that time i looked at the NA
website your program isn't much different that the NSWPP one. Its just
as unrealistic, and just as likely to come about. I'm sure 50 years from
now I'll be looking at the equivalent of Usenet and reading the same crap.
tim gueguen ad...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
grea...@mindspring.com
This post above reflects on the culture and intellect of the brain
damaged White racist NSWPP scum.
I am a White man and I am thoroughly disgusted by the degeneracy of you
NWSSP trash.
If this is the best you are offering the world you are only a
pitiful,sad hulk and justification for abortion.
Herman
Klaus Beck
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Sigismundo Malatesta wrote:
>
> [silliness snipped]
>
> The little nigger boy asked his mother what a nun was? and she
> replied, "She is a woman that hasn't had none and don't want none."
>
> The child then repluied, "How come there ain't no nigger nuns,
> is there mamma?"
stopped trying to teach us history, hey? Sorry state of the world when
people prove Your anti-semitic ravings wrong. Now You start making
low-level rascistic jokes. Now, for everybody who didn´t see how stupid
this joke was:
OF COURSE THERE ARE BLACK NUNS.
Klaus Beck
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Sigismundo Malatesta wrote:
>
> (sigh)...Look, I know that facts and truth have nothing to do
> with liberalism, but don't you really think that comments about the
> Fuhrer Adolf Hitler such as you made are so childish and so demonstrably
> untrue that you really ought to at least have enough basic respect for
> truth to refrain from making them?
A Nazi telling anybody to keep with the truth really is fun to see. What
is it. Don´t like Your own medicine for a change? I mean we all know how
You assholes try to tell the world that Alois Shickelgruber a.ka. Adolf
Hitler was the salt of the earth and the best since the invention of
sliced bread and that MEIN KAMPF is the most important book beside the
bible. Tell us we are telling lies. Go on. This is fun.
>
> The Fuhrer Adolf Hitler never, ever bore the name of
> Shickelgruber. This DID NOT HAPPEN. It IS NOT TRUE. Do you understand
> the nature of the term NOT TRUE? Jesus, does ANYBODY anymore?
I know the term. But the name Schickelgruber seems to be about right. I
looked it up. Quite all right. What is Your problem? Schickelgruber is a
very respectful Austrian name. And nothing to be ashamed of.
>
> There is NO EVIDENCE---none at all, not anywhere, not any
> time---that the Fuhrer was anything other than normally heterosexual, as
> witness his known liasons with women such as Geli Raubal, Unity Mitford,
> and Eva Braun. Even hostile biographers who retain some faint, vestigial
> respect for scholarship and truth acknowledge this.
Vestigial respect for scholarship and truth, he? NOw, nobody really
knows if Hitler/Shickelgruber was homosexual or not. But seeing that
homophoby is mostly evidence for supressed homosexuality this theory has
quite a lot speaking for it. And a number of women in a man´s entourage
isn´t prove for anything. Many politicians and other public figures take
a few alibi-women to cover up their homosexuality. So this doesn´t prove
anything.
>
> I know that given the complete disregard for truth and basic
> honesty displayed by certain people on "my side", i.e. the National
> Alliance, it is difficult for me to castigate Jews or anyone else for
> lying.
Well, You could at least admit that the NSWPP is as much a bunch of
liars as every other fascist group around. Admit it coward.
At times I despair that the whole concept of truth as an absolute
> value, worthy for its own sake, will ever be recovered in our society.
Not as long as liars like You and people of YOur ilk are allowed to
spread their lies everywhere.
> But one of the reasons I keep slogging on pointing out inconvenient
> truths (like the fact that Bill Pierce is a fraud and that Nizkor are
> liars) is the desire to have some small part in resisting the
> overwhelming predominance of The Lie in all its forms.
NO, it is Your desire to channel financial support that other
fascist-groups get into Your own coffers. And this You try by proving
them to be liars even when they say the same things You said just some
weeks before. The Jews do not need to lie. They have the truth on their
side anyway, as every German knows.
>
> You honestly have no idea what I'm talking about, do you...?
>
> Winston Smith
> www.nswpp.org
--
MZ
Sigismundo Malatesta
En articulo <33AF72...@earthlink.net>,<33AF72...@earthlink.net>
dice :(snip )
>"On this account, we with the counsel and advice of many
>prelates and noblemen and cavaliers of our realms, and of
>other persons of knowledge and conscience in our council,
>having given much deliberation to the subject, have decided
>to command all of the said Jews, men and women, to leave our
>kingdoms, and never to return to them. All but those who
>choose to be baptized shall depart by the first day of July
would deny the Jews the chance to be baptised and continue to live. For
that I hope you die the most painful and embarrasing of deaths,
hopefully while you're surprised and caught en flagrante delicto in the
acts of child pederasty that we all know serve as NSWPP initiation
rites. We cannot be fooled otherwise. Why, every time there is a
crackdown on paedophilia, is there ALWAYS a National Socialist
connection involved, at least, as with the recent raids in France,
according to an EL PAIS article which I have posted for your benefit.
Obviously, because, just as the ancient Germanic tribes routinely "
dishonoured " the young boys of peaceful Roman settlements ( read your
Gibbon ), you guys are nothing but a bunch of sick child molestors.-SM
Robert Born
Klaus Beck wrote:
>
> NSWPP wrote:
> >
> > Sigismundo Malatesta wrote:
> >
Still they are, but they got very expensive, don´t they?
Would you like to rise their price some more?
Would you even prefer to change to hard currency?
Robert
Aus dem Anzeigenteil der FAZ vom 06. Juni:
Heiratsangebote von deutschen Devisen-Dirnen zwecklos!
NSWPP
From: "Martyrdom of Julius Streicher"
At: http://www.melvig.org/streicher/julius.html
The Teachings of Julius Streicher
1.Jews concentrate in certain occupations such as doctors,
lawyers, money-lenders, merchants, entertainers, etc.
Thus they gain a disproportionate share of the wealth.
They control the large monopoly department stores thus
putting the independent Gentiles out of business.
2.Jews pay low wages often forcing poor workers into
crime and some women into part-time prostitution.
3. Jews are not true creators of wealth. They avoid
physical labor and are rarely farmers, masons, factory
workers, etc. Their religion teaches that it is shameful.
4.Jews hate Jesus Christ but have turned His birthday int
a source of great profits. As Rabbi Jacob Wise said: "It
is better to have Christmas than smallpox. Besides, if
the crucified one had a brother born in the summertime
it would have given us two such profitable holidays."
5.Jews exploit sex for financial gain through their control
of the theater and publications.
6.Jews are parasites who secretly gain wealth by
exploiting the unwary host people.
7.Jews gain power by first pleading for "tolerance and
brotherhood." They coddle political leaders of a nation
by making themselves useful - ingratiating themselves
until they become the power behind the throne.
8.Jews give to charities in order to gain respectability.
9.Even if a Jew undergoes Christian Baptism he remains
a Jew because they are a race.
10.Jews concentrate themselves in the large cities where
they promote socialism and decadence.
Julius Streicher's favorite saying:
"He who knows the truth and does not speak it
is a miserable coward."
#
"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle of
strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker Yockey,
IMPERIUM
Further info: http://www.nswpp.org
Klaus Beck
Now, I snipped a lot of hero-worship for another neo-nazi-icon, because
this kind of drivel really gets old with time. I just take some
collected bits from the end of this drivel to beat a bit on the Nazis so
they do not think we have forgotten about them just because they told
something that was wholly uninteresting and normally not worth anybody´s
time.
>
> Tragically, within a year Lincoln Rockwell was dead.
Well, I think about it more along the comedy-line
On August
> 25th, 1967 this authentic American hero
YOu shouldn´t use this terms to describe him. I cannot believe that most
Americans would see him in this role.
was murdered in Arlington,
> Virginia, under circumstances which have never been satisfactorily
> cleared up but which point very heavily towards the Jewish
> Anti-Defamation League, and also to at least some involvement on the part
> of the man who seized control of the Nazi headquarters and "succeeded"
> Rockwell. The trigger man was later convicted and received a short prison
> term; his accomplices in the corridors of power and the traitor within
> the headquarters who made the phone call telling the gunman where
> Rockwell would be were never charged or punished.
Well, another nice legend told by the fascist history-inventors to
idealize some braindead nazi-leader in the land of the free.
>
> Yet although Lincoln Rockwell died on that dark Friday in August,
> his heroic spirit lives on in the hearts and minds of White men and women
> everywhere who continue to draw inspiration from his mighty example.
Well, being a white man myself and knowing a fair number of white ( and
other woman ( socially and biblically ;-)) I can assure You that this is
surely not the case. In the opinion of most these people Your Commander
Rockwell can rot in hell. And You do not have to wait to join him there.
The
> Party he founded was reconstituted in 1994, and you may obtain further
> information by writing to the N.S.W.P.P., P.O. Box 9444, Chapel Hill,
> N.C. 27515-9444, U.S.A.
>
> HEIL HITLER!
Indeed. FUck Yourself
--
MZ
?
In article <33AD98...@earthlink.net>, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net>
writes
>Will Williams wrote:
>
> [hysterical drivel snipped]
>
> Q. What happens to Welsh faggots with AIDS?
>
> A. They Dai Young.
I've read your posts.
You're not worth answering.
Fell for it again, didn't I?
--
Lowri
*higs*
If anybody wants my email address, ask for it.
grea...@mindspring.com
NSWPP wrote:
>
> From: "Martyrdom of Julius Streicher"
> At: http://www.melvig.org/streicher/julius.html
>
> The Teachings of Julius Streicher
>
> 1.Jews concentrate in certain occupations such as doctors,
> lawyers, money-lenders, merchants, entertainers, etc.
> Thus they gain a disproportionate share of the wealth.
> They control the large monopoly department stores thus
> putting the independent Gentiles out of business.
Yes. On one hand these neo-Nazi's scream "The Jews Control the
Entertainment Industry"!
The entertainment industry with it's high paying jobs, employ millions
of Americans.
The notorious Julius Streicher was another Nazi loser. The NSSWP never
went to school and haven't yet learned WWII is over and- oh yes.
The NAZIS lost!
Herman
NSWPP
JEWISH RITUAL MURDER - INTRODUCTION
FROM: GOAL Reference Library - http://www.melvig.org/
My Irrelevant Defence, Being
Meditations Inside Gaol and Out on
JEWISH RITUAL MURDER
by ARNOLD LEESE
INTRODUCTION
ON 15th July, 1936, Mr. Oliver Locker-Lampson, M.P., a childhood
friend of the Rothschild family, asked in the House of Commons whether
the Attorney-General proposed to institute legal proceedings against
the authors or publishers of The Fascist, the issue of that paper for
July containing allegations against the Jews of the practice of ritual
murder. The Attorney-General replied that the matter was under a
consideratlon.
As an ultimate result of this "consideration," I was sentenced to six
months' imprisonment among criminals on 21st September, 1936, the
Judge in the case being a 31st Degree Mason of the Scottish Rite. But
it is important to note that the conviction was obtained, not on the
ritual murder issue alone, which was not relied upon by the
Prosecution for the purpose of silencing me, but on the whole contents
of the July Fascist, and particularly on words used by me with
reference to the disposal of the Jews.
Under the law of libel, the truth of my statements with reference to
Ritual Murder could not be used as an argument in my defence; it was
deemed sufficient under the law that the statements had been written,
and that they "rendered His Majesty's subjects of Jewish faith liable
to suspicion, affront and boycott" and so amounted to a Public
Mischief.
I came to Court very fully prepared, if the truth of my statements was
challenged, to justify the statements I had made in The Fascist, and
was even ready to demand that "Rex," the prosecutor, should produce
from the Public Records Office certain Close and Patent Rolls of the
State wherein Jewish Ritual Murder is recorded as an established fact
in this country! But I was forbidden by the Judge to use this line of
defence; it did not matter who else had charged the Jews with ritual
murder, or how often, or what historic facts proved it, or how many
convictions there had been under proper juridical authority; thus,
when I asked Inspector Kitchener, the only witness who appeared
against me, "When you brought this case, were you under the impression
that Ritual Murder was a thing of the past?" and he replied "Yes," the
Judge intervened with the remark "The truth of a libel is no defense,
I must point out again."
Again, the Attorney-General, who was acting as Prosecuting Counsel,
interrupted another question of mine to the same witness, by the
remark: "In my submission, it is correctly laid down that the
defendant is in no case allowed to prove the truth of a seditious
libel as a justification for having published it." The Judge then
said, "That is the law as I understand it." He made it clear to me
that to proceed further in such a line of defence would be contempt of
court, as the "truth" of the "libel" was "irrelevant" to the issue of
the trial! Such may be the law, but it is not justice!
The last thing the Judaeo-Masonic Hidden Hand wanted was the truth
about Ritual Murder!
Since I came out of prison on 6th February, 1937, I have, until
recently, been too busy to write on the subject of Ritual Murder; but
finding that there are, even among anti-Jewish workers, people who,
never having investigated the matter for themselves, still imagine
that Jewish Ritual Murder not only has not existed and does not exist,
but is a fiction invented by crazy anti-Jewish fanatics, and as such,
exploited by me, in my campaign against the Jews, it becomes necessary
for me to take steps to defend my own reputation as a man of good
faith by compiling and publishing this book.
What the court procedure prevented me from doing in my own defence, I
do now in these pages, and I have no anxiety concerning the
conclusions at which my readers will arrive on the matter.
The subject of Ritual Murder has always been one that the Jewish Money
Power, which controls this country as well as most others, has taken
all possible steps to suppress. The reason is that Ritual Murder was
the dynamite which finally blew the Jew out of England in 1290, out of
Spain in 1492, and out of Germany in our time. The Jews know it; and I
know it too!
But there is no British law, and no 11th Commandment, which makes
Ritual Murder by Jews a forbidden topic in this country. Sir Richard
Burton's book about it was published shortly after his death near the
end of the last century; Strack's book, defending the Jews against the
accusation, was translated and published in England in 1909; whilst
the Jew, C. Roth, published his Ritual Murder Libel and the Jew in
1935. In France, as in Germany, there is free speech on the subject.
I challenge and defy the Judaeo-Masonic Power, which rules this
country, by publishing the present work in 1938, not only in my own
defence, but in the public interest to break the attack on Free Speech
that is rapidly developing wherever any criticism of the past or
present conduct of Jews is concerned an attack which relies for its
success upon the ridiculous charge that a breach of the peace is
likely if the truth about them is spoken! I do so in order that the
Jews shall not escape simply through the power of Money and Masonry
from bearing the burden of a charge which, in my opinion, has been
proved against some of them through the ages. My object is, and always
has been, in spite of what my Masonic Judge had to say about it, to
alter "a matter of State established," namely the status of Jews in
this country on an equality with Britons, a condition which is
imperilling our civilization, and to enlighten the public on their
true nature as beings possessing instincts utterly incompatible with
our own, so that they may be removed, legally and peacefully, to a
National Home in which they will be required to live together. In this
aim, I keep troth with the greatest of English kings, Edward I, who
expelled the Jews from these shores in 1290.
The maintenance of Free Speech demands that Jewish Ritual Murder shall
be a subject for open discussion, like Suttee and Thuggee and the
sacrifices of Aztec Mexico, all of which were ritual murders which,
like the Jewish variety, would be practised to-day if the Aryan had
not interfered to prevent them. If the world thinks that I have not,
in this book, proved my case, let it laugh ! I can bear it ! But can
the Jews? The Jewish Chronicle (25th September, 1936) complained after
my trial was over that there had been no opportunity for the Jews to
refute the charge of Ritual Murder. Well, they have one now!
ARNOLD LEESE.
1st March, 1938.
In compiling this work I have received the most valuable assistance
from certain members of the Imperial Fascist League, who require no
thanks for that help. I should like to acknowledge the guidance I have
received in private letters from Sir. G., of Bristol, and from the
work, Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by Mr. A. Monniot; also from the
articles contained in Mr. A. Arcand's now defunct paper.
"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle
of strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker Yockey,
IMPERIUM
NSWPP
MORE NIGGER MURDER
Dear Winston:
This is a verbatim copy of an article in the "Spokane Review"
dated June 24, l997.
FLINT, MI.-When l4-year-old Michael Carter and two friends
hopped a freight train, they left their middle-class suburbs behind
and ended up in a very different, violent world just 30 miles down the
tracts.
It was 1 A.M. Thurday when the train stopped in a crumbling section
of Flint dotted with trash, junkyards and bars. After asking strangers
for help finding a pay phone, they were taken instead to a nearby park,
where all three were shot, and the one girl in the group was sexually
assaulted. Michael died from a gunshot to the head. His 15-year-old
friend Dustin Kaiser, was hospitalized Monday in fair condition with a
gunshot to the hear. And the 14-year-old girl who was not being
identified, was treated for injuries that included a gunshot wound to
the face.
Two men and four juveniles, ages 16 to 23, were arrested Sunday
and Monday on charges of murder, kidnapping, armed robbery and sexual
assault.
Police believe robbery was the motive. Sgt. Tom Korabik said the
suspects got $l0, all from the girl, and later told officers they were
out to "jack somebody".
In the predominantly black neighborhood--all the suspects are black--
some say the White teens may have stood out as strangers.
"You have some people who have the will to to bad. And yes,
you can say they would be easy marks," said Flora Williams, 56, who
has lived across from Ophelia Bonner Park all her life.
The teen are from the suburbs of Highland Township and Davisburg,
where the tree-lined strees and rustic, single-family homes are much
different from where they ended up. In Flint, tall weeds grow around
the border of the park. Bottles and other trash litter the parking lot.
The brick walls of the nearby Foss Avenue Christian School are covered
with graffiti.
Derrick Aldridge, and administrator of the school, said his knowledge
of the area leads him to believe race wasn't a factor. [Oh, Jesus Christ,
GIVE ME A BREAK!!! - WS] He said the attackers would have seized upon
anyone who happened along. "They just ran into each other at the wrong
place and time," he said.
The suspects were identified as Tyrone Reyes, l6; his 18-year-old
brother, Terrance Reyes; Anthony Hollis,23; his 20-year-old-brother,
Adrian Hollis; Shannon Gould, 16; and Christopher Darling, 18.
Korabik said Tyrone Reyes shot the victims, while Adrian Hollis
tried to use a shotgun but the safety jammed.
Near the neatly kept Highland Township trailer park where Michael
lived, Pam Hubbard said neighbors are devastated. And she said it
has taught other children to think twice before hopping trains.
"Don't think it's never going to happen to you," she said.
THIS IS WHAT GOES ON IN THE REAL WORLD WHILE THE BIRD-BRAINED
COWARDS AND FOOLS OF THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE FILE LAWSUITS, SHIT ON
DOORSTEPS, ATTACK MAIL BOXES, AND POUND ON THEIR KEYBOARDS TO POST
LIES ABOUT THEIR CRITICS ON USENET. THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE IS A DISGRACE
TO THE ARYAN RACE, AND EVERYBODY BUT THEIR OWN WEIRDED-OUT LITTLE
CLIQUE UNDERSTANDS THIS.
Sigismundo Malatesta
En articulo
<slrn5r13s0...@unix1.netaxs.com>,<slrn5r13s0...@unix1.ne
taxs.com> dice :
>
>On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:34:33 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> The Teachings of Julius Streicher
>
>story.
>
>Reading this article, one would think that Julie Streicher had very
strong
>credentials and had many dealings with Jews to become such an
authority.
>
>This is not the case.
>
>Julie Streicher was born on 2/12/1885 in Fleinhausen, a small
>rural village which was strongly Catholic. Jews were rarely
>seen there, but the poorly-educated villagers were convinced they
>knew a great deal about them due to generations of rumor and myth.
>Early in his life, Streicher absorbed the prevailing anti-Semitism.
>
>After WWI, Julie began reading a number of anti-semitic pamphlets
>and books. By 1919 he had become a radical Jew-hater. In 1922
>he formed the Nuremberg group of the Nazi party. (It is said that
>becoming a Nazi did not improve Julie's unpleasant personality.)
>The rest, as the saying goes, is history.
>
>It is evident that Julie simply rode on the popular wave of anti-Jewish
>feeling prevalent at the time. Hardly the credentials of an "expert."
>
>The NSWPP has also been remiss in not reporting on the comments Julie
made
>during his trial. Toward the end he announced to several fellow Nazis
>that he was now ready to fight on behalf of the Jews! News of rioting
>in Palestine had convinced him that Jews had a fighing spirit after
all.
>Julie stated:
>
> "Absolutely! I am not joking! And do you know why?
> Because the democratic world is too weak and isn't fit
> to exist. I warned them for 25 years, but now I see
> that the Jews have determination and spunk. They will
> still dominate the world, mark my word! And I would be
> glad to help them to victory because they are strong
> and tenacious, and I know Jewry. I have spunk too!
> And I can stick to my guns! And if the Jews would be
> willing to accept me as one of them, I would fight
> for them, because when I believe in a thing, I know
> how to fight!"
>
>Therefore, if you truly admire the memory of Julie Streicher,
>you should take his parting advice. Or, to coin a phrase:
>
>>"He who knows the truth and does not speak it
>>is a miserable coward."
>
>with Jews, I have had decades of experience dealing with whites,
>both in my capacity as a member of the International Jewish Conspiracy
>and as a private citizen. I have found that:
>
>1. Aryans concentrate in low-skill occupations such as janitors,
> sewer workers, factory workers, and collecting unemployment.
> This is due to their inherent inferiority. Unlike others, they
> rarely rise from these positions. They blame others for their
> failure to achieve success and become insanely jealous of
> their betters.
>
>2. Aryans are inherently lazy, expecting high wages for poor
> job performance.
>
>3. Aryans create no real wealth. They have virtually no concept
> of economics. If it was not for the business ability of Jews,
> through which goods and services are provided, aryans would still
> be living in caves. (Many of course live in trailer parks which
> are not far removed from this.)
>
>4. Aryans claim they love Jesus Christ, but they reject or ignore
> those teachings which may be inconvenient or at odds with their
> bizarre world-view. In a rather strange twist, certain aryan
> sects believe that they are the true Jews -- meaning of course
> that they would be responsible for "Christ killing" and various
other
> complaints leveled by their aryan brethren.
>
>5. Aryans claim to admire sexual conservatism, but as a group are
> responsible for the bulk of homosexuality and pedophilia
> experienced by society. They also flock to any theatrical
> presentation or publication featuring explicit sex. "Do as
> I say, not as I do" is the aryan watchword.
>
>6. Aryans are parasites who seek to steal wealth from its true
> owners, blaming any convenient others (i.e., Jews, Blacks,
> Hispanics) for their inherent inability to produce honestly.
>
>7. Aryans attempt to gain power by blaming others for their
> failures and convincing an unsuspecting populace that some
> enemy in their midst is responsible for all of society's
> problems. The "Big Lie" method is most often employed.
>
>8. Aryans occasionally give to charities to gain respectability.
> When they have a little left over from the trailer park rent.
>
>9. Even if an aryan undergoes Jewish conversion, he remains a
> clueless goy at the core. It's in the genes.
>
>10. Aryans concentrate themselves in rural areas, forming small
> compounds far from any centers of culture, education, or
> industry. They feed each other's insanity, and argue endlessly
> amongst themselves over bizarre delusions.
EXACTLY ! -SM>
>--
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Sigismundo Malatesta
En articulo <33B0A8...@earthlink.net>,<33B0A8...@earthlink.net>
dice :( racial garbage snipped )
> Derrick Aldridge, and administrator of the school, said his knowledge
>of the area leads him to believe race wasn't a factor. [Oh, Jesus
Christ,
>GIVE ME A BREAK!!! - WS] He said the attackers would have seized upon
>anyone who happened along. "They just ran into each other at the wrong
>place and time," he said.
but with less violence.
> The suspects were identified as Tyrone Reyes, l6; his 18-year-old
>brother, Terrance Reyes; Anthony Hollis,23; his 20-year-old-brother,
>Adrian Hollis; Shannon Gould, 16; and Christopher Darling, 18.
> Korabik said Tyrone Reyes shot the victims, while Adrian Hollis
>tried to use a shotgun but the safety jammed.
In all reality these guys, and all blacks who use violence against
whites, should be treated just as if they were whites acting against
blacks. They all should be tried on grounds of hate crime. But if this
country was smarter in the past as well as in the present - if it hadn't
decided to " preserve its Northern European roots " and shut out
southern Europeans thereby empowering blacks, also if it had been much
tougher on guns ( guns should AT LEAST be treated legally like heroin if
not even stricter, this is what almost every country except the US does,
as the danger is even greater ) this would not have happened. Southern
Europeans stick up for what's theirs, they're not castrated homos like
nords, and thereby if they had taken over things like this would not
have happened. In my ancestors' region of Italy, in cities like Bari and
Brindisi it is the blacks who live in mortal fear of the whites, not
like this American crap. -SM
grea...@mindspring.com
NSWPP wrote:
>
> JEWISH RITUAL MURDER - INTRODUCTION
>
starved,shot, beaten and tortured twelve million innocent human beings,
half of which were Jews.
The fact that the NWSSP could even bring up the subject of "ritual
murder" gives you an idea of the ignorance and dementia involved.
grea...@mindspring.com
NSWPP wrote:
>
> MORE NIGGER MURDER
> Dear Winston:
> for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org
>
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> \ /\ \_\
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> / / /
> \/_/
Well NWSPP,
The high school prom student who gave birth in the toilet, snuffed the
baby in a plastic bag and went out to keep on dancing.
What race was she?
Is this what White people do? Kill their babies and keep on dancing?
Explain that one. You White racists don't mind murder do you?
That's your kind!
Herman
Cmdr. What
bal...@netaxs.com (Bob Alpert) wrote...
>
>On Sat, 21 Jun 1997 13:27:14 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>The post preceding this one is a forgery.
>
>Learn how Usenet works, clueless newbie. Messages may arrive in
>any order and may be threaded by subject and/or cross-reference,
>depending on the newsreader involved.
>
>In short, in many cases there may not be a way to deterimine
>exactly which is the "post preceding this one."
The "preceding" post is the one LAST in the "References:"-field.
Here's the "References" from your message:
References: [snip...] <5ofjl9$9...@camel1.mindspring.com> <33AC39...@earthlink.net>
So, the message preceding yours is <33AC39...@earthlink.net>
It's possible that some follow-ups don't have a "References:"-field, but
that's hardly "in many cases" and certainly not in the case you're referring
to.
Conclusion: "learn how Usenet works." :-)
>Are all Aryans this ignorant? (A rhetorical question if there
>ever was one...)
Are all Jews this ignorant? (A rhetorical question if there ever
was one...)
A Teuton
--
Resist censorship!
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Sigismundo Malatesta
En articulo <33AFF7...@t-online.de>,<33AFF7...@t-online.de> dice
>
>NSWPP wrote:
>>
>> Sigismundo Malatesta wrote:
>>
>> [silliness snipped]
>>
>> The little nigger boy asked his mother what a nun was? and
she
>> replied, "She is a woman that hasn't had none and don't want none."
>>
>> The child then repluied, "How come there ain't no nigger
nuns,
>> is there mamma?"
>Well, Sigismundo,
>
>stopped trying to teach us history, hey? Sorry state of the world when
>people prove Your anti-semitic ravings wrong. Now You start making
>low-level rascistic jokes. Now, for everybody who didn´t see how stupid
>this joke was:
>
>OF COURSE THERE ARE BLACK NUNS.
respond to it. I know as well as anyone else there are black nuns,
anyone who's ever been in Rome will see Catholic clergy from all over
the world as well as non-clergy and non-Catholics. This is what I said
in my response to Covingstein's crap. If you confuse my words, which are
in opposition to that aryan garbage, with Covingstein's twaddle than
perhaps he is right about your reasoning ability. I would really not
like to think that this is the case, as I hold your views in more
respect than his, but if you confuse the two perhaps I was wrong for
thinking this. - SM
NSWPP
nos...@bucket.bit wrote:
[hysterical, hate-filled distribe against Julius Streicher
snipped]
That's why I post these "oldies but goodies", Bob. I know there
are certain people who still to this day have the power to send you kikes
into an absolute screaming hissy fit, and Julius Streicher is one of
them.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Sigismundo Malatesta
En articulo <33B200...@earthlink.net>,<33B200...@earthlink.net>
dice :
>
>nos...@bucket.bit wrote:
>
> [truth about worthless third rate pornographer Julius Streicher
>
> That's why I post these "oldies but goodies", Bob. I know there
>are certain people who still to this day have the power to send you
kikes
>into an absolute screaming hissy fit, and Julius Streicher is one of
>them.
latest virtual reality technology. " Christian Baptism does not matter
because Jews are a race " indeed ! If that was the case than every
European would be a Jew " racially " except for a few token peoples like
Basques and Lapps, the only " pure " peoples in Europe. As I have
established, if one could establish any group as a threat to the health
and future of the white race, it would be nordics. However, I have no
desire to wipe them or any other culture on earth out through systematic
extermination, which violates every system of ethics ever established by
humanity, except for that of the Marquis de Sade and his " state
sponsored sodomy "...but then all Aryan politics when you come down to
it involve state sponsored sodomy ! And you have room to talk about Jews
promoting socialism, when you belong to a socialist party. You could at
least take after Tony Blair and drop the word socialist from your group,
Covingstein - why not just the National White Peoples' Party ? Or
perhaps you could preserve the same initials and call it the National
Soviet White Peoples' Party, or the Naturally Stupid Weird Poofters'
Party. BTW, the Pink Swastika proves even more those statements that I
said about Schickelgruber, which is why Geli Raubel and Renate Mueller
were murdered, and why Pola Negri fled from Germany ( although widely
known to be a Jewess, this internationally famous actress was given
honorary Aryan status in exchange for sex with Hitler, but saw it wise
to escape given her intimate knowledge of Der Fuehrer's perversions
which she took with her to her grave ).Again I'm right and you're wrong
Covingstein. Although I do hope that you take after my namesake and
sodomise Dr. Pierce in the heart of downtown Chapel Hill in front of
your storm troopers, which should be put on video and diffused all over
the net,,,I'm waiting for the day Covingstein !
- Sigismundo malatesta
>Winston Smith
Orwell fought the Nazis who fought alongside with the troops of
Mussolini and Franco. He would not have approved of your ideology. Why
not name yourself after a Celine or TS Eliot character...maybe J. Alfred
?I think instead of Julius Streicher you probably meant to say Jeff
Stryker...( gay porn star )
Klaus Günther Beck
NSWPP wrote:
>
> THIS IS WHAT GOES ON IN THE REAL WORLD WHILE THE BIRD-BRAINED
> COWARDS AND FOOLS OF THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE FILE LAWSUITS, SHIT ON
> DOORSTEPS, ATTACK MAIL BOXES, AND POUND ON THEIR KEYBOARDS TO POST
> LIES ABOUT THEIR CRITICS ON USENET. THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE IS A DISGRACE
> TO THE ARYAN RACE, AND EVERYBODY BUT THEIR OWN WEIRDED-OUT LITTLE
> CLIQUE UNDERSTANDS THIS.
I always like it when You nazi-fucks bash each other.
Klaus Günther Beck
>
> ARNOLD LEESE.
> 1st March, 1938.
Arnold Leese was a follower of Lord Morseley, who was with the beginning
of WW II for Great Britain inprisoned because of his fascistic doings. I
mean here again we see a lot of drivel from an anti-semit and
anti-masonic that was disproven hundreds of times in other writings.
There was never any prove for ritual murder in the Jewish religion. And
there will never be because there is no such animal.
>
> In compiling this work I have received the most valuable assistance
> from certain members of the Imperial Fascist League, who require no
> thanks for that help. I should like to acknowledge the guidance I have
> received in private letters from Sir. G., of Bristol, and from the
> work, Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by Mr. A. Monniot; also from the
> articles contained in Mr. A. Arcand's now defunct paper.
Well, nice to show us, where our enemies sit. Thank You Nazi-pig.
>
>
>
Klaus Günther Beck
>
> **********************************************
>
> THE EDICT OF EXPULSION -- MARCH 31st, 1492
>
> ISABEL and Fernando signed their names on March 31, 1492, to
> a document commencing thus:
Please try to look this up before You believe a word of the following.
And then ask Yourself, how much the following has to do with today.
Well, the law of Moses is Jewish law. Shows how much the signers of this
drivel knew.
giving them
> to understand that there was no other true law but that;
Which Jews understand far better than Christians. I mean, Moses having
been a Jew and so.
the
> which is clear from many utterances and confessions, not
> only by the Jews themselves, but by those who were perverted
> and injured by them, which has resulted in great harm,
> detriment and opprobrium to our Holy Catholic Faith.
Well, the confessions made under torture. We already talked about it in
other circumstances. The greatest harm to Christianity at this time was
the Holy Inquisition and the Catholic Church two institutions that used
the pursecution of Jews to get at what they deemed heretics among the
Christians.
>
> "For when some serious and detestable crime is committed by
> certain ones of a certain college or university, it is right
> that the college or university be dissolved and annulled,
> and that the lesser be punished for the greater and the ones
> for the others; and that those who pervert the good and
> honest life of cities and towns by the contamination that
> can injure others be expelled from among the people, even
> for more trifling causes which are injurious to the
> public. How much more so for the greatest, most perilous
> and most contagious of crimes, as this is?
Well, she certainly doesn´t spell it out and leaves a lot room for
interpretation.
>
> "On this account, we with the counsel and advice of many
> prelates and noblemen and cavaliers of our realms, and of
> other persons of knowledge and conscience in our council,
> having given much deliberation to the subject, have decided
> to command all of the said Jews, men and women, to leave our
> kingdoms, and never to return to them. All but those who
> choose to be baptized shall depart by the first day of July
> and not return under pain of death and confiscation.
NOW COMES THE INTERESTING PART:
Any who
> receive or shelter the Jews after the date assigned shall have
> all their goods confiscated. But until the time appointed all Jews
> shall remain under the royal protection, and no one shall hurt
> them or their property under pain of death. The Jews may take out
> of Spain no gold, silver, minted money, nor other things forbidden by
> the laws of our kingdoms, save in merchandise not prohibited
> or concealed."
>
The coffers of Spain at this time were nearly empty because the Crown
had been financial incompetent. Now they tried to steal the money from
the Jews. That is really all this expulsion act was about. Good of You
to leave this part in. GAve me more Ammunition.
Klaus Günther Beck
Well, I snipped here a lot of drivel about "truths" about Jews. Now hear
that. A quotation from the man who thold those truths:
> Julius Streicher's favorite saying:
> is a miserable coward."
>
> #
>
Klaus Günther Beck
Robert Born wrote:
>
> Klaus Beck wrote:
> >
> > NSWPP wrote:
> > >
> > > Sigismundo Malatesta wrote:
> > >
> > > [silliness snipped]
> > >
> > > The little nigger boy asked his mother what a nun was? and she
> > > replied, "She is a woman that hasn't had none and don't want none."
> > >
> > > The child then repluied, "How come there ain't no nigger nuns,
> > > is there mamma?"
> > Well, Sigismundo,
> >
> > stopped trying to teach us history, hey? Sorry state of the world when
> > people prove Your anti-semitic ravings wrong. Now You start making
> > low-level rascistic jokes. Now, for everybody who didn´t see how stupid
> > this joke was:
> >
> > OF COURSE THERE ARE BLACK NUNS.
>
> Would you like to rise their price some more?
> Would you even prefer to change to hard currency?
>
> Robert
>
> Aus dem Anzeigenteil der FAZ vom 06. Juni:
> Heiratsangebote von deutschen Devisen-Dirnen zwecklos!
Und was soll dieser Blödsinn, Robert?
Cmdr. What
whit...@mindspring.com (Will Williams) wrote...
>
>Izzy Bob Rabinowitz wrote
>>"NSWPP" (Myron Silverstein) wrote:
>
>>>The post preceding this one is a forgery.
>
>I don't forge posts ...
You just "distort" them a bit, don't you? I shall include your joke at
the bottom of this message in order to refresh your memory.
>...and I've never used any other name than
>"whitewil." I like the way the Irgun gangleader, Bawb Alpert, clears
>up the "Williams Forges Post" fantasy of the "NSWPP":
>
>>Learn how Usenet works, clueless newbie. Messages may arrive in
>>any order and may be threaded by subject and/or cross-reference,
>>depending on the newsreader involved.
>>
>>In short, in many cases there may not be a way to deterimine
>>exactly which is the "post preceding this one."
>>
>>Bob Alpert
>
>Boy, I'm in my element when I can prompt MOSSAD Bawb to nail Covington
>for me. I notice this from Ken McVay too:
>
>>...Anyone with a functioning brain can figure the first [question] out by
>>learning to use a web browser, which explains why Mr. Covington and
>>Mr. Grosvenor haven't.
>
>And this:
>
>>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/c/covington-harold/
>
>Thanks guys! I'll check it out.
Don't waste your time. The contains no information on Covington,
and hasn't been changed since September 28, 1996.
>Maybe we can trade notes about our Mr. Covingstein. We seem to have
>reached a consensus about something finally.
>
>Nobody, not even Nizkoreans, like a liar as big as Harold Covington.
"NA-Nizkor teamwork"...?
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"NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
> There is NO EVIDENCE---none at all, not anywhere, not any
>time---that Ben Klassen was anything other than normally heterosexual, as
>witness his known liasons with women such as Mrs. Klassen, his loving
>wife of 45 years. Even sh*thouse biographers like me with absolutely no
>respect for scholarship and truth should acknowledge this for the sake of
>Klassen's grandchildren. I'm sorry I lied about him for so long. I want to be
>accepted into the "Movement" so I can have some friends.
>At times I despair that the whole concept of truth as an absolute
>value, worthy for its own sake, will ever be recovered in our society.
>But one of the reasons I keep slogging on pointing out inconvenient
>truths is the desire to have some small part in resisting the
>overwhelming predominance of The Lie in all its forms. Also, I've been
>caught in so many big lies myself that I don't hardly know what to do.
> You honestly have no idea what I'm talking about, do you...?
Yes, I do. Go ahead and get it all out.
>Harold Covington
>www.fraud.org
It's good to see you admit to your lies about Klassen. I knew you were
lying all along. A few thousand hours of community service breaking WV
rocks and we'll see if we have a place for you after that. Now, about
all those other lies you've told...
Robert Born
Frag mal deine Koelner Kollegen aus den zwei Dreibuschstabenvereinen,
oder waere die Bezeichnung Finanz-Fotzen oder Moepse-Moesen treffender?
MfG, Robert
URL siehe: http://www.wupper.de/sites/kfett/txt/uno1.htm oder
http://www.mk.net/~stratus/uno1.exe
Christian Janoff
Robert Born schreibt:
#>Frag mal deine Koelner Kollegen aus den zwei Dreibuschstabenvereinen,
#>oder waere die Bezeichnung Finanz-Fotzen oder Moepse-Moesen treffender?
Ich glaube kaum, dass eine derartige Wortwahl in einer Newsgroup (geschweige
denn einer THD-Newsgroup) angebracht ist!!
Christian.
P.S.: Ich verbitte mir persoenliche Mails von Dir, Robert!
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Will Williams
Ken McVay
Regarding Julius Streicher, see
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/streicher-julius -- you
may find it of more lasting interest than anything offered by
Harold Covington, who is also profiled at
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/c/covington-harold
While I'm at it, some of you might find the following of
interest:
INTERNATIONAL SYMPOSIUM ON HATE ON THE INTERNET
SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 7 - TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 1997, TORONTO, CANADA
CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS
B'nai Brith Canada, through its Institute for International Affairs
and League for Human Rights, will host an International Symposium on
Hate on the Internet. The symposium will draw on the latest
expertise of international delegates in the areas of law, legislation,
technology, education, human rights and community action.
Approximately 150 - 200 invited participants will come together to
explore and coordinate methods of dealing with the global problem of
Hate on the Internet.
If you are interested in contributing to the program, please submit an
abstract of approximately 150 words describing your paper, panel,
poster session or roundtable as soon as possible (before July 10th)
to:
Lisa Armony, National Director, Institute for International Affairs,
or Dr. Karen Mock, National Director, League for Human Rights
<b...@bnaibrith.ca>
B'NAI BRITH CANADA
INSTITUTE FOR INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS
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Jeremy
> "NSWPP" (Harold Covington) wrote:
>
> > WHO IS GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL?
> [snip]
The best thing about George Lincoln Rockwell is that he is dead. I've been
to the laundromat where he was shot (while doing the sheets, no doubt) and
could barely supress a smile.
Heil Juden!
Klaus Günther Beck
NSWPP wrote:
>
> THE POLITICAL PROGRAM OF THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST WHITE PEOPLE'S PARTY
>
> The National Socialist White People's Party is a political
> organization of Aryan men and women in the United States and Canada, of
> all ages and social backgrounds, who recognize that National Socialism is
> the only world view capable of advancing the vital interests of the Aryan
> (White) people in a world which is becoming increasingly non-White.
Whereby he doesn´t tell us that Aryan means really a population in the
Near East.
The
> Party fights for the creation of a National Socialist Aryan Republic on
> the North American continent.
Finally, a country to wage war against.
Ultimately, the Party struggles along with
> our many comrades the world over for the creation of what the philosopher
> Francis Parker Yockey called the Imperium, a world order of peace,
> stability, progress and fulfillment based on the supremacy of the White
> race over the entire planet.
Well, in the time of the colonization we have seen how much peace,
freedom etc. white supremacy brings;)
>
>
> I. AN ARYAN REPUBLIC
>
> We demand the establishment of an independent Aryan republic on
> North American soil wherein only Aryans (White persons of unmixed,
> non-Semitic, European descent) shall reside or hold citizenship.
Interesting. And how will You find the few people who actually belong in
this group? Dickhead.
This
> Aryan Republic shall be a free and sovereign nation whose government and
> citizens shall exercise full control over their internal affairs, their
> economy, their culture, and their foreign relations.
>
>
> II. NATIONAL SOCIALISM
>
> The Aryan Republic shall be established under a new Constitution
> as a one-party National Socialist state.
Since when is a one-party-state free?
All laws, government, and state
> policy shall be based on the principles of National Socialism as outlined
> in the spoken and written works of the Fuhrer Adolf Hitler and his
> political contemporaries, the spoken and written works of Commander
> George Lincoln Rockwell, the Cotwswolds Declaration of 1962, and other
> historical expositional documents of the National Socialist world view.
> This true New Order will seek to create a classless, prosperous, and
> secure society wherein Aryan man can attain his highest personal,
> creative, and spiritual potential.
Fucking, raping, drinking, ranting and beating up non-Aryans, right? And
what about Your "Aryan " women?
>
> III. CITIZENSHIP
>
> No person who is not of unmixed, non-Semitic, Caucasian European
> ancestry shall reside anywhere within the Aryan Republic. Citizenship in
> the Aryan Republic is a privilege and not a right, but a privilege which
> shall be open to all Aryan peoples of the world regardless of their
> country of birth or national origin. Citizenship shall not be bestowed at
> birth as is the case with liberal democracy, but shall be earned in
> adulthood through military service, by civic service to the state, or by
> demonstrated worthiness and value to the racial community.
So children have no rights. The pedophiles will love it there.
>
> IV. RIGHTS IN A RACIAL COMMUNITY
>
> Under the National Socialist state all inhabitants of the Aryan
> Republic, both citizen and non-citizen, shall enjoy from birth the
> following inalienable rights:
>
> *The right to decent, livable housing, including a right to
> affordable home ownership;
Where do You plan to get the money?
>
> *The right to keep and enjoy the fruits of their labors free
> from excessive and confiscatory taxation;
Nice one.
>
> *The right to gainful and productive employment at a living wage
> sufficient to support self and family;
NIce one too, though unrealistic.
>
> *The right to quality medical care free of charge, for any and
> all disabilities or illnesses or health problems;
Can You say euthanacy?
>
> *The right to personal safety from criminal robbery, assault, and
> victimization;
And what about victimization through the state?
>
> *The right to a clean and healthy environment;
>
> *The right to hold and to practice any and all private religious
> beliefs which do not infringe upon the rights of others, or which do not
> constitute political activity disguised as religion, as well as the
> concomitant right to raise children in the religious beliefs and
> traditions of their parents;
Mmh?
>
> *The right to keep and to bear arms, which is the immemorial
> birthright and mark of a free people as well as the strongest safeguard
> of the community against crime and oppression;
>
> *The right to an all-White cultural and spiritual environment
> free of the polluting and debilitating influence of distorted and
> primitive Judaic and negroid cultures.
What? NO modern music? No alcoholics brewed by non-white people? No
computers? No....?
>
> V. THE INSTITUTION OF THE FAMILY
>
> The basic building block of the new National Socialist society
> must be the traditional, nuclear two-parent family, with the gainfully
> employed husband and father as head of the family and the home-making
> wife and mother as its heart.
Well, that will make Your women happy.
In order to re-establish and protect this
> ancient and vital social institution, the following policies will be
> implemented by the Aryan Republic:
>
> *Interest free state mortgage loans will be made available to
> young married couples in order to allow them immediate home ownership.
Who pays for this?
> Balances owing on these loans will be reduced in 25% increments upon the
> birth of the first healthy child, 20% for the second child, and 15% for
> the birth of all subsequent children, thus making possible a high
> repayment moratorium percentage;
>
> *Prenatal and pediatric medical care will be prioritized and
> universally available;
Ah, Operation Lebensborn again.
>
> *Property taxes on family homes containing growing children will
> be abolished;
>
> *Divorce will not be abolished, but will be made sufficiently
> legally difficult so that such a serious step will be undertaken only in
> the gravest and most incontestable cases of irretrievable marital
> breakdown;
>
> *Sexual perversions such as homosexuality,
No perversion. Go read a book. It is perfectly natural.
lesbianism,
Is female homosexuality. Otherwise, see above.
> transvestism,
See above.
feminism,
Is neither sexual nor a perversion. But I know, You are afraid of women
smarter than You ( most of them ).
pornography,
How boring
paedophilia,
NOw, here. This is a sexual perversion.
and the traffick in
> materials relating to all the preceding will be permanently suppressed;
All homosexual literature. Also all literature from homosexuals. Kids
You are really depriving Yourself of some good books.
>
> *Abortions will be performed only on foot of a court order in
> cases where the unborn child is determined by medical science to be
> deformed or mentally retarded. Abortion of a healthy Aryan child will be
> legally classed as a premeditated homicide and will be dealt with
> accordingly.
Execution? Well, if You ban feminism, You ban the right to choose.
Figures.
>
> VI. A NEW EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM
>
> The Aryan Republic will establish a comprehensive system of
> public education which will place strong emphasis on the physical and
> moral development of our young people, as well as on academic achievement
> and the training and disciplining of their intellects, and which will
> instill in every young Aryan an all-important body of racial values. The
> young people of our race are our future, and it is the duty of the state
> to see to their development in a thorough and well-rounded manner,
> recognizing that in the long run a healthy mind can only dwell in a
> healthy body, and that along with the education of the young mind must
> go rigorous physical and character training.
Character training. Racial Values. Let the characterless teach the
children character. Right. Mens insana in corpore sane.
>
> VII. AN HONEST AND EFFICIENT ECONOMY
>
> We believe that the proper function of the economy is to serve
> the needs of the people, not to make profits for big bankers and
> multi-national corporations. We also believe that actual production is
> the only legitimate basis for wealth, not speculation or the manipulation
> of money and pieces of paper. Accordingly, the Aryan Republic will
> create an honest and self-sufficient economic system based on the
> productive capacity of the Aryan worker, which will guarantee conditions
> of full employment and price stability. All banking and credit
> institutions will be placed under public control as well as all the
> utilities and transportation facilities. Usury will be legally prohibited
> and all conglomerate holdings and accumulations of usurious profit will
> be confiscated and returned to the people through public institutions of
> community service and value. Basic industries will be operated under a
> system of profit sharing. A system of interest-free loans for farmers,
> small businessmen, and families will be instituted.
Well, the GDR showed how good this works. Not at all.
>
> VIII. THE FAMILY FARM
>
> A healthy and productive farming community is essential to the
> functioning of any rational and stable society. Accordingly, agriculture
> in the Aryan Republic will be based on the institution of the family farm
> rather than on the mass plantation-style agribusiness approach utilized
> by the present regime. The farmer's land and the fruits of his labor must
> remain inviolate; the real value of the family farm lies not only in the
> production of food, but in providing social, racial, and environmental
> stability while serving as a constant source of spiritual renewal for
> man in close rapport with Nature. The Aryan Republic will abolish all
> forms of agricultural commodity speculation and provide interest-free
> loans for farm equipment, fuel, seed and supplies, fodder, vetrinary
> care for livestock, etc.
>
> IX. CULTURE AND SCIENCE
>
> The Aryan Republic acknowledges that the state bears a special
> responsibility to protect and promote our racial cultural heritage, and
> remove all alien influences from our art, our music, our literature, our
> drama and our cinema.
So You have to destroy ALL cultural artifacts and to build up a culture
from scrap. Because every culture somehow influenced the others. All
cultural creating is intertextual. And everything You create then will
be influenced what You knew before. This is not only stupid, this is
unbelievable stupid.
This must be done in order that the innate artistic
> and cultural genius of our people can define and express itself without
> interference from the current Judaeo-liberal forces which have seized
> cultural hegemony throughout the Western world. Ideas can uplift and
> ennoble,
Yeah.
or they can poison and degrade the mind.
Like Your ideas.
It is the duty of the
> state to protect its citizens from anti-White hate propaganda and
> spiritual pollution just as much as it is to defend them against physical
> and military aggression.
>
> The Aryan Republic will encourage and invest in pure science, in
> research, and in the exploration of outer space as a matter of national
> policy. National Socialism understands that the benefits which will
> accrue from such pure scientific efforts will in the long run far
> outweigh any consideration of immediate cost.
So we get medical experiments on humans and gentechnology and other nice
things without the benefit of ethic restraints. Did Mengele already sign
his work-contract?
>
> X. FOREIGN POLICY
>
> The foreign policy of the Aryan Republic will be based solely on
> the long term interests of the Aryan race world wide. In order
> effectively to pursue such a policy, National Socialism will create and
> maintain the world's most powerful military force,
Who will pay for this?
fully capable of
> repelling any aggression from without such as that which destroyed the
> Third Reich, and capable as well of protecting the interests of our
> people abroad. It will be the mission of the Republic's foreign policy
> to serve as a friend and protective shield to all Aryan peoples the
> world over who may suffer from persecution, discrimination, or
> threatened genocide by the racial enemy.
Now, that is rich. That is really rich. Can You say Endlösung?
>
>
> XI. DEFENSE
>
> The Aryan Republic will establish universal conscription and
> military training for all young men, beginning in the public schools at
> a very early age. All men between the ages of 18 and 50 will be part of
> the military reserve except in cases of the most serious medical
> exemption. Military training and the instillment of martial pride and
> tradition in the young will be a major aspect of the educational system.
Now, this is frightening. So children will learn the value of killing.
> The ancient and honorable profession of the soldier will be once more
> established within the community as one of the highest regard and
> respect, and veterans of the armed forces will be accorded a superior
> political and economic status within the community.
>
> XII. A BETTER RACE
>
> It will be the imperative duty of the National Socialist state
> aggressively to strive for the continual improvement of the Aryan race
> through positive eugenic measures, especially through encouraging the
> propagation of the best elements of our population in every way possible.
Operation Lebensborn.
> Steps will also be taken to halt the spread of hereditary defects and
> racially impure blood within the gene pool of the racial community. Our
> racial resources provide the biological basis for all true progress, and
> must not only be nurtured but improved, in order for Aryan man to attain
> the highest potential development both physically and mentally.
Well, the highest mental potential would be that of an microbe then?
>
> Finally, it is the duty of the state to take an active part in
> the spiritual life of the racial community. Our people must be turned
> away from their present path of materialism, cynicism, and egotism and
> become inspired by the racial idealism and rebirth of traditional Aryan
> values. By these values we mean such ideals as the strong nuclear family
> unit; the love and cherishing of White children; personal responsibility
> for self and family; fortitude in adversity; physical courage in the
> face of the enemy; a sense of patriotism and racial community;
> generosity to those of our race who are sick or hurt or in need;
> and the concept of rights and privileges as the earned rewards of
> social responsibility fulfilled.
>
> #
>
> NATIONAL SOCIALIST WHITE PEOPLE'S PARTY * P.O. BOX 9444 * CHAPEL HILL,
> N.C. 27515-9444
NSWPP
Klaus Günther Beck wrote:
>
> Let me quote MR. Spock for You here on the question of his captain what
> this was all about:
>
> "Very bad poetry, captain."
>
> P.S.: I do not believe a word he is saying.
Got a quarter, Klaus?
Call someone who gives a damn what you think.
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I and most people that I know who read these posts by Klaus have great
value.
You on the other hand are known to be stupid. I mean even among known
neo-Nazis you have a reputation for being some juvenile twirp.
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NWSPP (Neo-White Stupid People’s Party)
The degenerate ignoramus who parades the Swastika, symbol of the
defeated Nazi party of World War II has illusions of being another Adolf
and by his magnificent charisma will defeat the United States of
America.
He finds the most degenerate of the defeated Nazi hate-mongers and
finds them attractive and exemplars. Well, what would you expect from
Stupid People?
His ignorance of history is such that he selects Hitler and the Nazis who
caused the single most number of deaths to mostly White people as his
“White Power” hero.
His only claim to fame is his being White.
He was born with that. He did not battle for it or earn it.
What he has done with himself though, that required effort and brains is
zero.
He has contributed nothing to White people.
He has contributed nothing to America.
He has contributed nothing to Mankind.
He has only soiled the reputation of honest and sincere White people.
He has defamed the American Veterans who served in WWII.
He lives like a leech off the backs of honest hard working people who
support and build America.
That’s why he is the NWSPP (Neo-White Stupid People’s Party)
And he can find other Neo-White Stupid People like himself.
Herman
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Will Williams
Harold Covington wrote:
>Klaus Günther Beck wrote:
>>
>> P.S.: I do not believe a word he is saying.
> Got a quarter, Klaus?
> Call someone who gives a damn what you think.
Will Williams, Plaintiff -- (919) 785-0600 (Raleigh, NC, USA)
Williams vs. Covington, a libel suit (establishing Def. as a liar)
NSWPP
Jeremy wrote:
[stupid drivel snipped]
Q. hy do niggers keep their fists closed when making the "black
power" sign?
A. If they held out an open palm, they'd fall out of the trees.
Matt Giwer
On 25 Jun 1997 21:25:01 -0700, malt...@primenet.com (Sigismundo
Malatesta) wrote:
>En articulo <33B200...@earthlink.net>,<33B200...@earthlink.net>
>dice :
>>nos...@bucket.bit wrote:
>> [truth about worthless third rate pornographer Julius Streicher
>>snipped]
>>
>> That's why I post these "oldies but goodies", Bob. I know there
>>are certain people who still to this day have the power to send you
>kikes
>>into an absolute screaming hissy fit, and Julius Streicher is one of
>>them.
>Streicher knew about as much about Jews as Caligula knew about the
>latest virtual reality technology.
Rather the more correct analogy would be Caligula about
Christians.
>Orwell fought the Nazis who fought alongside with the troops of
>Mussolini and Franco.
Yes, Orwell was a communist.
===
Dedicated to the 104 dead victims of the Qana massacre.
http://www.flinet.com/~politics/action/ch-beat.htm
Matt Giwer
On 24 Jun 1997 13:13:00 -0700, malt...@primenet.com (Sigismundo
Malatesta) wrote:
>En articulo <33AF72...@earthlink.net>,<33AF72...@earthlink.net>
>dice :(snip )
>>"On this account, we with the counsel and advice of many
>>prelates and noblemen and cavaliers of our realms, and of
>>other persons of knowledge and conscience in our council,
>>having given much deliberation to the subject, have decided
>>to command all of the said Jews, men and women, to leave our
>>kingdoms, and never to return to them. All but those who
>>choose to be baptized shall depart by the first day of July
>At least the Catholic Monarchs gave the Jews this choice. You assholes
>would deny the Jews the chance to be baptised and continue to live. For
>that I hope you die the most painful and embarrasing of deaths,
In fact upon looking into the Inquisition we find it was more
like the Monty Python version of it that the common version of it.
Turns out Lutheran Germany had the printing presses and used them to
demonized the Catholic Church via a created "horrible example" in
Spain.
Ed D USA Ret
Hey idiot! Wipe the spit off your chin. Just below your mouth dummy.
Yea that's it, now don't forget where it was cause you need lots of
wipping.
And get a Hair Cut
Ed
d
NSWPP
It does nothing of the kind, of course. It is what is known as a
"nuisance suit" and apparently the Plaintiff has already failed in one
attempt to get the court to order me off the Internet. It will never be
anything more than a nuisance and it will certainly not "put me out of
business" as Willie keeps squalling it will. (Sigh) I find it hard to
believe this man is 47 years old....
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Cmdr. What
whit...@mindspring.com (Will Williams) wrote...
>
>The semi-retarded (Cmdr. What ?) wrote:
[quoted msg. deleted]
Did you have anything do add?
Will Williams
Harold Covington wrote:
>Will Williams wrote:
>> Harold Covington wrote:
>> >Klaus Günther Beck wrote:
>> >>
>>
>> > Got a quarter, Klaus?
>> > Call someone who gives a damn what you think.
>>
>> Will Williams, Plaintiff -- (919) 785-0600 (Raleigh, NC, USA)
>> Williams vs. Covington, a libel suit (establishing Def. as a liar)
> It does nothing of the kind, of course. It is what is known as a
>"nuisance suit" and apparently the Plaintiff has already failed in one
>attempt to get the court to order me off the Internet.
Oh really? Are you now claiming a court victory? Please explain this
to the reader.
>It will never be
>anything more than a nuisance and it will certainly not "put me out of
>business" as Willie keeps squalling it will. (Sigh) I find it hard to
>believe this man is 47 years old....
I'm not 47. And I *will* put you and your phoney "NSWPP" out of
business. If you're a betting man, put your money where your lying
mouth is. I bet you a thousand dollars you and the "NSWPP" will be
"out of business" within a month. Is it a bet, Chubby? That should be
some easy pickin's for one like you, so full of bluster and
everything, eh?.
>Harold Covington
>www.lying.org
NSWPP
Will Williams wrote:
[silliness deleted]
Q. What is long, pink, and hangs in front of an asshole.
A. Bill Clinton's tie.
Sylvain Turcotte
NSWPP wrote:
>
> From: "Martyrdom of Julius Streicher"
[snip snip]
> 1.Jews concentrate in certain occupations such as doctors,
> lawyers, money-lenders, merchants, entertainers, etc.
Jews study more and are better businesspersons than
gentiles. How horrible!
> 2.Jews pay low wages often forcing poor workers into
> crime and some women into part-time prostitution.
So there should be less prostitution and better relative
wages in muslim countries and asia for example?
> 3. They avoid physical labor...
> Their religion teaches that it is shameful.
I wasn't aware that there were 3 millions doctors in Israel.
Maybe the palestinians should stop working, all the jews would
starve to death!
> 4.Jews hate Jesus Christ... As Rabbi Jacob Wise said: ...
Wow, a quote.
> 5.Jews exploit sex for financial gain through their control
> of the theater and publications.
And gentiles look? How convenient.
> 6.Jews are parasites who secretly gain wealth by
> exploiting the unwary host people.
Gentiles aren't very bright are they?
> 7.They coddle political leaders of a nation
> by making themselves useful - ingratiating
> themselves until they become the power
> behind the throne.
Beeing useful? How dare they!
> 8.Jews give to charities in order to gain
> respectability.
They should really be much meaner.
> 9.Even if a Jew undergoes Christian Baptism
> he remains a Jew because they are a race.
So Ethiopian jews are of the same race as russian
jews? I guess then that christians from chile are
the same race as christians from japan and muslims
for indonesia are the same race as muslims from
morocco?
> 10.Jews concentrate themselves in the large
> cities where they promote socialism and decadence.
Well doctors, bankers and entertainers tend to go
where people are.
Why would bankers, industrials, doctors etc.. promote
socialism? I don't get the logic I'm afraid...
Then again I'm not jew so that explains that, doesn't it?
Sylvain (thinking about getting circumcised, it might help, who knows?)
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Here is the freedom of speech advocate Will Williams who wants to STOP
the freedom of speech of another!
You neo-Nazi idiots and National Alliance retards show your face.
AND IT'S UGLY
Herman
Klaus Günther Beck
Matt Giwer wrote:
>
> On 25 Jun 1997 21:25:01 -0700, malt...@primenet.com (Sigismundo
> Malatesta) wrote:
>
> >En articulo <33B200...@earthlink.net>,<33B200...@earthlink.net>
> >dice :
>
> >>nos...@bucket.bit wrote:
>
> >> [truth about worthless third rate pornographer Julius Streicher
> >>snipped]
> >>
> >> That's why I post these "oldies but goodies", Bob. I know there
> >>are certain people who still to this day have the power to send you
> >kikes
> >>into an absolute screaming hissy fit, and Julius Streicher is one of
> >>them.
>
> >Streicher knew about as much about Jews as Caligula knew about the
> >latest virtual reality technology.
>
> Rather the more correct analogy would be Caligula about
> Christians.
>
> >Orwell fought the Nazis who fought alongside with the troops of
> >Mussolini and Franco.
>
> Yes, Orwell was a communist.
>
Klaus Günther Beck
Matt Giwer wrote:
>
> On 24 Jun 1997 13:13:00 -0700, malt...@primenet.com (Sigismundo
> Malatesta) wrote:
>
> >En articulo <33AF72...@earthlink.net>,<33AF72...@earthlink.net>
> >dice :(snip )
> >>"On this account, we with the counsel and advice of many
> >>prelates and noblemen and cavaliers of our realms, and of
> >>other persons of knowledge and conscience in our council,
> >>having given much deliberation to the subject, have decided
> >>to command all of the said Jews, men and women, to leave our
> >>kingdoms, and never to return to them. All but those who
> >>choose to be baptized shall depart by the first day of July
>
> >At least the Catholic Monarchs gave the Jews this choice. You assholes
> >would deny the Jews the chance to be baptised and continue to live. For
> >that I hope you die the most painful and embarrasing of deaths,
>
> In fact upon looking into the Inquisition we find it was more
> like the Monty Python version of it that the common version of it.
> Turns out Lutheran Germany had the printing presses and used them to
> demonized the Catholic Church via a created "horrible example" in
> Spain.
>
of Europe I would like to refer You to Karl Heinz Deschner´s DIE
KRIMINALGESCHICHTE DES CHRISTENTUMS. This book claims among other things
that in Würzburg 400 people were burned in a single week, a claim I
could verify while visiting my aunt in Würzburg last year where I
visited the city-archives. The Monty Python version is satire, but we
all now You have problem with humorous concepts.
Klaus Günther Beck
NSWPP wrote:
>
> Will Williams wrote:
>
> [silliness deleted]
>
> Q. What is long, pink, and hangs in front of an asshole.
>
> A. Bill Clinton's tie.
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NSWPP wrote:
>
> Dear Winston:
>
Winston has Soul! Everyone in the world knows about the famous Nazi
Souls! What an idiot.
> Here is an interesting fragment I came across recently,
> written by Alfred Rosenberg, one of the early ideologues of
> the NSDAP in Germany in the days before the 1933 victory. <snip>
I know what became of your pall Rosenberg and his "Soul" or rather other
peoples "Souls"
> for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org
>
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The other Rosenberg. Alfred Rosenberg
Hitler’s chief racial ideologist.
He too was obsessed by his belief in an “international Jewish conspiracy”
The Nazi who was found guilty of extermination of Jews and participation in
forced labor.
The one who stood trial before the world.
The one who was sentenced to death by hanging at Nuremberg.
And long before the Nuremberg trials tens of thousands of American,
British and Canadian died on the beaches of Normandy and in the fields of
France, Holland, Belgium and tens of thousands more bled but survived.
Just to stop these madmen.
And more than 30 million dead in Europe.
Enough to build 600 Vietnam War Memorials!
And for what?
So the bastards with their obsession in an “international Jewish
conspiracy” can spout their Jew Hating sentiments!
Herman
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COURT INJUNCTION RECEIVED JUNE 30th, 1997
Readers of these newsgroups should be aware that on June 30th,
1997 I received by regular mail, not certified or special delivery,
notice of a court injunction from the Wake County, North Carolina
District Court prohibiting me from any public discussion of certain
matters. I will issue a full statement on this once I have had time to
study the injunction and receive advice on the matter.
Over the weekend there have appeared on these newsgroups
several libelous and defamatory posts referring to myself, posted by
certain individuals affiliated with the National Alliance. It now
appears that these posts were a deliberate attempt to bait me into
violating an injunction, the existence of which I was unaware. This
constitutes criminal contempt of court on their part.
There will almost certainly be more such libelous and defamatory
posts appearing on this newsgroup, in an attempt to bait or provoke me
into public discussion of matters which I am prohibited by court order
from discussing.
Any individual making such a post needs to be aware that he may
be held in criminal contempt of court and subject to fine, imprisonment,
or both.
Winston Smith
www.nswpp.org
Klaus Günther Beck
To anybody who is interested. There is much that hints at the
possibility that Rosenberg himself was of Jewish ancestry, because his
grnadparents adopted the name from their German landlord before the
family moved to Riga.
Since the NSWPP and the Z-Grams go to some length to disinform the
visitors of the internet with their „revisionistic“ version of history I
thought it might be a good idea to bring some historical facts into the
discussion. At the end of this post You will find some literary
direction for further studies. Here is the first one:
Literature to the Holocaust:
Raul Hilberg: Die Vernichtung der europäischen Juden. Die
Gesamtgeschichte des Holocausts, 3 Bde. Frankfurt a.M. 1994. ( Don´t
know if there is an English edition. Look it up. )
Arno Lustiger: Zum Kampf auf Leben und Tod. Das Buch vom Widerstand der
Juden 1935 - 1945. Köln 1994.
Reference work:
Encyclopedia Judaica, 16 vol. ( engl. ) Jerusalem 1971.
Now a little bit about the stupid idea of ritual murder through the
jews:
The accussation of ritual murder was made in Germany for the first time
in the year of 1235, after having been used in the English town of
Norwich ( 1144 ) and in the French town of Blois ( 1171 ). In these two
cities the accussations led to cruel atrocities against the Jewish
people there. In the German town of Fulda the house of a miller burned
down on Chritmas-Eve in 1235 and his five children did in the flames. At
once the rumours made the rounds that the Jews had killed the children
because they needed Christian blood for healing-purposes. 32 members of
the Jewish communion in Fulda were arrested and killed and then ALL Jews
in the empire were accussed of murder. These occurrences were brought
before Friedrich II, who ordered an investigation which ended in a
„not-guilty“-verdict. Friedrich II said:
„Neither in the Old nor in the New Testament we find evidence that Jews
are thirsting for human blood. On the contrary, they avoid the touch of
any kind of blood. This is evident from the book which is called
berechet in Hebrew ( the Tora )... It is very probable that those who
avoid even the blood of the animals they are allowed to eat will NOT
thirst after human blood. Against the accussation of ritual murder are
speaking: the horror of the accussation itself, the unnatural aspects of
it and the natural human feelings that the Jewish show the Christians.“
( Monika Grübel:
Judentum. 2. Auflage, Köln 1997. p. 68)
Till the 19th century there has been almost no accussation from the
Islamistic countries that Jews would need human blood for ritual
purposes. Accussations of this kind are clearly of Christian-European
origin. Especially in traditionally anti-semitic countries like Marocco,
Yemen and Persia this idea was unknown because here were no or only very
few Christians and the European influence came only very late.
( Monika Grübel:
Judentum. 2. Auflage, Köln 1997.p. 121 )
AND WHILE WE ARE AT IT SOMETHING ABOUT THIS MAGGOT IN THE GUISE OF MAN:
Adolf Hitler: ( and about his idiotic bully Julius Streicher) :
The following is from William L. Shirer: The Rise and Fall of the Third
Reich. A History of Nazi Germany. 30. edition. NY: Touchstone 1990:
Adolf Hitler was the third sonm of the third marriage of a minor
Austrian customs official who had been born an illegimate child and who
for the first thirty-nine years of his life bore his mother´s name:
SCHICKLGRUBER..
(
p. 6 )
Adolf´s mother was his father´s second cousin, and an episcopal
dispensation had to be obtained for the marriage.
(
p.7 )
Though the ailing widow [ Hitler´s mother ] found it difficult to make
ends meet on her meager income, young Adolf declined to help out by
getting a job. The idea of earning his own living by any kind of regular
employment was repulsive to him and was to remain so throughout his
life.
( p. 15 )
There is a great deal of morbid sexuality in Hitler´s ravings about the
Jews. This was characteristic of Vienna´s anti-Semitic press of the
time, as it later was to be of the obscene Nuremburg weekly DER STÜRMER,
published by one of Hitler´s favorite cronies, JULIUS STREICHER, Nazi
boss of Franconia, A NOTED PERVERT and one of the most unsavory
characters in the Third Reich. MEIN KAMPF is sprinkled with lurid
allussions to uncouth Jews seducing innocent Christian girls and thus
adulterating their blood. ... As Rudolf Olden has pointed out, one of
the roots of Hitler´s anti-Semitism may have been his TORTURED SEXUAL
ENVY. Though he was in his early twenties, so far as is known he had no
relations of any kind with women during his sojourn in Vienna.
( p. 26 )
Those who knew him [ Hitler ] then remember later his long black shabby
overcoat, which hung down to his ankles and resembled a caftan and which
was given him by a HUNGARIAN JEW old-clothes dealer, a fellow inmate of
the dreary men´s hostel who had befriended him.
[ I bet later he wished he would have let him freeze to death in a
winter-night. KGB ]
( p. 20 )
... he [ Hitler ] had not even a combat soldier´s interest in women.
( p. 30 )
The gullibility of the Germans is a subject which Hitler often harps on
in MEIN KAMPF. He was shortly to take full advantage of it.
( p. 32 )
He [ Hitler ] stood JULIUS STREICHER , for example, almost to the end.
This depraved sadis, who started life as an elemetary-school teacher, [
in fact he was fired because of misconduct in 1928 by the Weimarian
goverment, see: Dictionary of WW II ] was one of the most disreputable
men around Hitler from 1922 until 1939, when his star finally faded. A
famous fornicator, as he boasted, who blackmailed even the husbands of
women who were his mistresses, he made his fame and fortune as a blindly
fanatical anti-Semite. His notorius weekly, DER STÜRMER, thrived on
luird tales of Jewish sexual crimes and Jewish „ritual murders“; ist
obscenity was nauseating, even to many Nazis. STREICHER was also a noted
pronographist. He became known as the „uncrowned king of Franconia“ with
the center of his power in Nuremberg,... . Until I faced him slumped in
the dock at Nuremberg, on trial for his life as war criminal, I never
saw him without a whip in his hand or in his belt, and he laughungly
boasted of the countless lashings he had meted out.
( p. 50 )
Really a delightful book. Shirer tells us about a possibly masochistic
affair that Hitler had with his niece ( starting somewhen between her 17
and 20 year of life ) and which ended with her suicide on September
17th, 1931 in the luxurious nine-room apartment he rented for her in the
Prinzregentenstraße in Munich 1929. Well, inbreeding was standard in
Braunau, so we shouldn´t really surprised the uncle Adolf liked to play
doctor with his niece. For evidence of the masochistic tendencies of
Hitler see: Konrad Heiden: Der Fuehrer. Boston, 1944. About a letter
from Hitler to Geli that spells it all out I refer You to p. 384-86.
Patrick Hitler, the father of Geli said she had been pregnant from her
uncle ( see: Werner Maser: Adolf Hitler. Legend-Myth-Reality. 9. edition
1985, p. 36. )
So, guys, chew on that. There is more where this came from.
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Thoughts about Auschwitz:
„Nobody belongs here... This place should never have been built.
It is a giant scar on the face of humanity... An affront to the very
meaning of Life itself. But the truth is, ist very existence should be
enough to steer anybody from this course that fascism has chosen.“
( In: I Had A Dream, by Scott
Lobdell. 1997 )
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What is a Nazi with a lizard on his head?
Artificial Intelligence.
NSWPP
Dear Winston:
Here is an interesting fragment I came across recently,
written by Alfred Rosenberg, one of the early ideologues of
the NSDAP in Germany in the days before the 1933 victory. We
may agree or disagree with his mostly philosophical attempt
to explain the evil evident in the Jewish race.
I just think it is important for us to be familiar with the
work of those comrades that came before us and that
contributed to the Fuhrer's victory and the birth of the Third
Reich, Their work is our patrimony.
Heil Hitler!
A. M.
................................................................................
"The Earth-Centered Jew Lacks A Soul"
by Alfred Rosenberg
Let us repeat once more, and again and again, the most
important point that has been made up to now: the Jewish
religion completely lacks the belief in a supra-sensible
Beyond. Indeed, one gets an almost positive impression that,
in the course of time, everything that in the least could foster
a belief in an incorporeal life after death was intentionally
eliminated. The Jews, with their religion oriented to purely
earthly affairs, stand alone in the world! This should not be
forgotten for a single moment; it is highly significant. For it
is this exceptional situation which explains why a "shady
nation" such as that of the Jews has survived the greatest and
most glorious nations, and will continue to survive, until the
end of all time, until the hour of salvation strikes for all
mankind. The Jewish nation will not perish before this hour
strikes.
The world is preserved, as we shall see only by a
positive yea-saying to the world. Among the Jewish people
this world affirmation is totally pure, without any admixture
of world-denial. All other nations that have ever existed, and
exist today, had, or have, such an admixture, characterized by
the idea of a Hereafter, even if only a trace of it. This mere
trace would have sufficed, or would suffice, to provide the
necessary counterweight to the unadulterated yea-saying to
the world, as embodied in the Jewish people. For the inner
light -and belief in immortality is the inner light!- does not
need always to shine with the brightest glow in order to
produce an effect; it must simply be there, it must not be
allowed to be snuffed out, to otherwise mankind would be
lost forever to the terrestrial world.
Everything takes its own time, however, a fact which is all
too often overlooked. The denial of the world needs a still
longer time in order to grow so that it will acquire a lasting
predominance over affirmation of the world. At this time it seems
again to have sunk to a zero point; its opposite, symbolized by
the Jewish people, is triumphant as never before. It seems as if
the inner light has completely vanished from this earth. But to
anticipate, it merely seems that way. Denial of the world
cannot perish because it is part of the soul of mankind and the
soul is immortal. Where the idea of the immortal dwells, the
longing for the eternal or the withdrawal from temporality
must always emerge again; hence a denial of the world will
always reappear.
And this is the meaning of the non-Jewish
peoples: they are the custodians of world-negation, of the
idea of the Hereafter, even if they maintain it in the poorest
way. Hence, one or another of them can quietly go under, but
what really matters lives on in their descendants. If,
however, the Jewish people were to perish, no nation would be
left which would hold world affirmation in high esteem- the
end for all time would be here.
This would also be the case if the Zionist idea were to
become a reality, namely if the entire Jewish people would
unite to become a national entity in Palestine or somewhere
else. Such a unification of Jews has never existed before: this
must be stressed not twice but three times, inasmuch as it is
little known. Long before the destruction of the Temple in
Jerusalem a large part of the Jews lived in the Diaspora, that
is, dispersed among the "heathen" people. And, as every
schoolboy knows, at the beginning of their history they were
"guests" among the Egyptians. What arose afterwards in
Palestine was anything but a state structure. At best it was
an attempt to build one, when it was not a preparatory school
for the exploitation or the destruction of other peoples.
To the Jew Weininger [Otto Weininger, 1880-1903 author of
"Geschlecht und Charakter"] his own nation is like an invisible
cohesive web of slime fungus (plasmodium), existing since
time immemorial and spread over the entire earth; and this
expansionism, as he correctly observes (without, of course,
proving it), is an essential component of the idea, of the
nature of Judaism. This immediately becomes clear if we
again regard the Jewish people as the embodiment of world-
affirmation. Without it, nothing of a terrestrial character, and
thus no nation, is conceivable.
Hence, the Jew, the only consistent and consequently the
only viable yea-sayer to the world, must be found wherever
other men bear in themselves- if only in the tiniest degree-
a compulsion to overcome the
world. The Jew represents the still necessary counterweight
to them; otherwise that urgent craving would be fulfilled
immediately and thereby would not usher in the salvation of
the world (since the Jewish people would still remain in
existence), but would destroy it in a different way through
the elimination of the spiritual power without which it
cannot exist either. I will discuss this idea more fully later
on; here I wish merely to demonstrate that the world could
not exist if the Jews were living by themselves. This is why
an old prophecy proclaims that the end of the world will
arrive on the day when the Jews will have established the
state of Palestine....
From all this follows that Judaism is part of the
organism of mankind just as, let us say, certain bacteria are
part of man's body, and indeed the Jews are necessary as
bacteria. The body contains, as we know, a host of tiny
organisms without which it would perish, even though they
feed on it. Similarly, mankind needs the Jewish strain in order
to preserve its vitality until its earthly mission is fulfilled.
In other words, the world-affirmation exemplified by Judaism
in its purest form, though disastrous in itself, is a condition
of man's earthly being-as long as men exist- and we cannot
even imagine its nonexistence. It will collapse only when all
mankind is redeemed.
Thus, we are obliged to accept the Jews among us as a
necessary evil, for who knows how many thousands of years
to come. But just as the body would become stunted if the
bacteria increased beyond a salutary number, our nation too
-to describe a more limited circle- would gradually succumb to
a spiritual malady if the Jews were to become too much for
it. Were he to leave us entirely (this is the aim of Zionism, or
at least what it pretends to be) it would be just as disastrous
as if he were to dominate us. The mission of the German
nation will come to an end-and this is my firm conviction-
with the last hour of mankind. But we could never reach it if
we lost world-affirmation, the Jew among us, because no life
is possible without world-affirmation. On the other hand, if
the Jew were continually to stifle us, we would never be able
to fulfill our mission, which is the salvation of the world, but
would, to be frank, succumb to insanity, for pure world-
affirmation, the unrestrained will for a vain existence, leads
to no other goal. It would literally lead to a void, to the
destruction not only of the illusory earthly world but also of
the truly existent, the spiritual.
Considered in himself the Jew represents nothing but
this blind will for destruction, the insanity of mankind.
It is known that Jewish people are specially prone to
mental disease. "Dominated by delusions,"
said Schopenhauer about the Jew... To strip the world of its
soul, that and nothing else is what Judaism wants. This,
however, would be tantamount to the world's destruction.
Even now, while the Jews still live among us, all their
undertakings reveal this aim, and necessarily so. Their aim is
to strip mankind of its soul. This is a why they endeavor to
break any form behind which the living souls is operative. For
as arch-materialists it is their insane opinion that it is
precisely the spiritual, (which they sense only obscurely),
that is connected with the form as a matter of life and death
and must perish with it. Hence they are also, all and sundry,
anarchists, consciously or unconsciously. In fact, they cannot
be anything else but opponents of order and law, because order
and law, in a unique way, bear the radiant imprint of a purer
world. Schiller calls order "the daughter of heaven", and for
the divine origin of law we find much evidence in Schiller and
still more in Goethe.
Without order and law no conception of state can be
actualized, since they are the indispensable foundation for it.
For this very reason, the Jew, the mortal enemy of order and
law, can never create a viable state in Palestine. The result
would again be chaos. For this word, correctly translated,
means an infinite void, nothingness.
>From "Dietrich Eckart: Ein Vermachtnis", edited by Alfred Rosenberg (Munich: Verlag Frz. Eher Nachf., 1928) pp.214-219
................................................................................
"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its
mantle of strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker
Yockey, IMPERIUM
Will Williams
Harold Covington wrote:
>COURT INJUNCTION RECEIVED JUNE 30th, 1997
> Readers of these newsgroups should be aware that on June 30th,
>1997 I received by regular mail, not certified or special delivery, ..
Doesn't matter how you got served, Defendant Covington, only that you
were served.
>...notice of a court injunction from the Wake County, North Carolina
>District Court prohibiting me from any public discussion of certain
>matters. I will issue a full statement on this once I have had time to
>study the injunction and receive advice on the matter.
Good for you.
> Over the weekend there have appeared on these newsgroups
>several libelous and defamatory posts referring to myself, posted by
>certain individuals affiliated with the National Alliance. It now
>appears that these posts were a deliberate attempt to bait me into
>violating an injunction, the existence of which I was unaware. This
>constitutes criminal contempt of court on their part.
No it does not, Defendant Covington. You are the only party being
restrained by Judge Gessner's Order. Only you will be held in contempt
for violating this Order. You really should not misrepresent the case
with all your bluster now that the Order has been served.
> There will almost certainly be more such libelous and defamatory
>posts appearing on this newsgroup, in an attempt to bait or provoke me
>into public discussion of matters which I am prohibited by court order
>from discussing.
You are the Defendant, no one else. You are the only party accused of
libelling others, no one else. Your little plan to try your case on
the Internet rather than in the courtroom is over.
> Any individual making such a post needs to be aware that he may
>be held in criminal contempt of court and subject to fine, imprisonment,
>or both.
Wrong again, Defendant Bluster. How can anyone else be held in
Contempt of Court when it is yourself being restrained and no other?
"Prior Restraint" is very difficult to get against a publisher in the
U.S. because of our vaunted "freedom of the press." One has to be
about the biggest liar on earth to be gagged as a so-called publisher.
>Harold Covington
>www.fraud.org
So, here it is, Defendant Covington. Study it and check with your
"legal coach" on how you plan to "defy" this Injunction:
---begin:---
Filed on June 26, 1997 / 4:04PM
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NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL COURT OF JUSTICE
DISTRICT COURT DIVISION
WAKE COUNTY File No.: 96 CVD 11027
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William W. Williams )
Plaintiff )
vs. ) I N J U N C T I O N
Harold A. Covington )
Defendant )
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This cause coming to be heard, after proper notice and being
heard, on the 25th day of April, 1997, before the Honorable Paul
Gessner, Judge Presiding.
It appearing to the Court, through affidavit and other evidence
that:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. Defendant was properly served, pursuant to N.C. Rules of Civil
Procedure, Rule 4 on March 21, 1997, with a Motion for Preliminary
Injuction and Notice Of Hearing.
2. Plaintiff appeared, represented by counsel.
3. Defendant did not appear.
4. Plaintiff served defendant with REQUEST FOR ADMISSIONS
OF DEFENDANTon the 18th day of February, 1997.
5. As of April 22, 1997, defendant failed to respond to those
REQUESTS FOR ADMISSIONS.
6. Defendant served Plaintiff's attorney with a document on
March 17, 1997, entitled "DEFENDANT DECLINES FURTHER
TO DEFEND".
7. Since the Summons and Complaint in this action was filed,
defendant has continued to publish defamatory statements about the
plaintiff and continues to republish defamatory statements about the
plaintiff complained of in the original complaint.
8. Defendant continues to use the United States Postal Service in
the distribution of defamatory statements about the plaintiff.
9. Defendant continues to publish defamatory statements
about the plaintiff via the Internet.
10. Defendant continues to publish defamatory written statements
about the plaintiff by other means.
11. Electronic posts to the Internet are the most insidiously
invidious publications in that they remain lurking for additional
republication.
12. Plaintiff has suffered and continues to suffer injury to his
reputation and said publications continue to deter third persons from
associating with plaintiff in social and business intercourse.
13. Each individual defamatory publication about the plaintiff by
the defendant causes additional injury to the plaintiff.
14. A monetary judgement can not adequately remedy plaintiff's
injuries caused by the defendant.
15. Defendant has been making material misrepresentations
regarding the facts and procedures of this civil action via the
Internet.
16. Defendant uses assumed names to publish defamatory statements
about the plaintiff: including but not limited to; "Secretary
General:, "NSWPP", and particularly his rakish nom de plume, "Winston
Smith".
17. Defendant has repeatedly and falsely published statements that
this Civil Action involves the "National Alliance".
18. Defendant has repeatedly and falsely published statements that
the "National Alliance" is a party in this Civil Action.
19. Defendant has published statements indicating his intention to
defy any Wake County Court Order enjoining his defamatory speech
regarding the plaintiff.
CONCLUSIONS OF LAW
1. Defendant has been publishing defamatory statements, both per se
and per quod of and concerning the plaintiff since the filings of this
Civil Action.
2. Plaintiff has made an adequate showing that he will prevail in
this action.
3. Defendant's actions by making additional defamatory publications
and republishing the original defamatory statements complained of are
causing the Plaintiff irreparable harm.
4. Money damages alone are not sufficient to make the plaintiff
whole.
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS ORDERED:
1. Defendant, Harold A. Covington, is hereby enjoined from any
publication of any matter involving plaintiff, William W. Williams.
2. Defendant shall not publish, nor cause to be published any
matter concerning William W. Williams or his activities.
3. Defendant shall not refer to this Civil Action as the "National
Alliance law suit" or the "suit against the NSWPP".
4. Defendant shall not refer to the plaintiff as: "John Doe #2",
"Mr.'X' ", or "Little Willie".
Entered this 25th day of June, 1997
_____________________________
Paul Gessner, Judge Presiding
---end Order---
So, Covington can't refer to me in any way, or discuss my activities,
including my work for NA. He cannot even discuss the suit, except
truthfully -- something he is utterly incapable of doing.
What is he going to do with all those libelous articles floating out
here in Cyberspace now, just waiting for retransmission?
Interesting...Write him and ask him what he's going to do now -- then
send me his answer if you deem it contemptuous.
Will W. Williams, Plaintiff
cybe...@hotmail.com
On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:50:09 -0700, NSWPP <ns...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Here is an interesting fragment I came across recently,
>written by Alfred Rosenberg, one of the early ideologues of
>the NSDAP in Germany in the days before the 1933 victory. We
>may agree or disagree with his mostly philosophical attempt
>to explain the evil evident in the Jewish race.
>I just think it is important for us to be familiar with the
>work of those comrades that came before us and that
>contributed to the Fuhrer's victory and the birth of the Third
>Reich, Their work is our patrimony.
Hey wasn't Rosenberg a Jewish Architect, just like Uncle Adolf?
Matt Giwer
On 29 Jun 1997 10:27:18 GMT, KlausGue...@t-online.de (Klaus
Günther Beck) wrote:
>Matt Giwer wrote:
>>
>> On 24 Jun 1997 13:13:00 -0700, malt...@primenet.com (Sigismundo
>> Malatesta) wrote:
>>
>> >En articulo <33AF72...@earthlink.net>,<33AF72...@earthlink.net>
>> >dice :(snip )
>> >>"On this account, we with the counsel and advice of many
>> >>prelates and noblemen and cavaliers of our realms, and of
>> >>other persons of knowledge and conscience in our council,
>> >>having given much deliberation to the subject, have decided
>> >>to command all of the said Jews, men and women, to leave our
>> >>kingdoms, and never to return to them. All but those who
>> >>choose to be baptized shall depart by the first day of July
>>
>> >At least the Catholic Monarchs gave the Jews this choice. You assholes
>> >would deny the Jews the chance to be baptised and continue to live. For
>> >that I hope you die the most painful and embarrasing of deaths,
>>
>> In fact upon looking into the Inquisition we find it was more
>> like the Monty Python version of it that the common version of it.
>> Turns out Lutheran Germany had the printing presses and used them to
>> demonized the Catholic Church via a created "horrible example" in
>> Spain.
>If You really want to know something about the inquisition in the whole
>of Europe
The subject is the SPANISH Inquisition as you know.