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A conservative panel of federal judges ruled Monday that a 30-year ban on
butterfly knives in Hawaii is unconstitutional under the U.S. Supreme
Court's new "history and tradition" standard for reviewing the legitimacy
of gun and other weapons laws nationwide.
"Hawaii has not demonstrated that its ban on butterfly knives is
consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of regulating arms,"
Judge Carlos Bea wrote for the unanimous three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th
Circuit Court of Appeals.
The ruling, which may be appealed, has implications beyond Hawaii,
including in California and other states that also ban or severely
restrict butterfly knives, which have been targeted by lawmakers because
they can be easily concealed and flipped open.
California bans "switchblades" — which include butterfly knives — when
they have blades 2 or more inches in length. A separate lawsuit
challenging that ban is pending.
The decision reflects the growing reach of the Supreme Court's pro-gun
rights decision last year in New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn. vs.
Bruen, in which the nation's highest court ruled that restrictions on
people's 2nd Amendment right to bear arms are constitutional only if they
are deeply rooted in the nation’s history and tradition or analogous to
some historical rule.
Since then, trial and appellate judges have found themselves sifting
through century-old state statutes to determine the legality of hundreds
of modern weapons restrictions in states all across the country —
including on knives and billy clubs, assault weapons and ammunition
magazines, and on the possession of guns by certain classes of people,
including adults under 21 and people who are subject to restraining
orders.
Bea wrote that Hawaii's 1993 ban on butterfly knives did not meet the
criteria because nothing like it existed around the historical benchmarks
chosen by the Supreme Court as relevant for such analyses: 1791, when the
2nd Amendment was passed, or 1868, when the 14th Amendment was passed. The
latter amendment prohibits states from depriving people of property
without due process of law.
Although the Bruen decision specifically addressed firearm regulations,
Bea wrote that was only because the case in Bruen was about gun
regulations in New York. The same "framework" applies to knives, which are
also "arms" under the 2nd Amendment, he said.
Bea, an appointee of President George W. Bush, was joined in his opinion
by judges Daniel Collins and Kenneth Lee, both appointees of President
Trump.
Butterfly knives have split handles that swing back to form a single
handle when the blade inside is revealed. They can be flipped open using
just one hand by experienced users.
The knives have been associated with criminals, including in Hollywood
films, since at least the 1950s. Some critics have said bans on them are
racist, and serve as a pretext for harassing and arresting people of color
— particularly Black and Latino men.
Hawaii banned such knives as "dangerous and unusual" weapons popular among
gang members and increasingly common in acts of violence. The 9th Circuit
panel found that the state had failed to prove they were either of those
things, with Bea writing that they are "simply a pocketknife with an extra
rotating handle."
The office of Hawaii Atty. Gen. Anne Lopez said it was still reviewing the
decision Monday, but "may have further comment at a later time."
The case arose after plaintiffs Andrew Teter and James Grell sued the
state over the ban, arguing that they are law-abiding citizens who wanted
butterfly knives for multiple reasons, including for self-defense.
Grell, a 51-year-old who does accounting for a water utility company on
the Big Island of Hawaii, praised the decision Monday.
"It seemed like a pretty obvious ruling to be made in light of all the
recent Supreme Court decisions," he said. "It's good to see civil
liberties prevail."
Grell said he had owned a butterfly knife — a "relic" from his childhood
in Colorado — before moving to Hawaii and saw no reason why he shouldn't
be able to keep it.
"It's a knife I had since I was a teenager and it just never made any
sense that I couldn't bring it over here."
Alan Beck, an attorney for Grell and Teter, applauded the court's ruling
as "well reasoned."
"Hawaii's complete ban on this type of knife just wasn't sustainable under
the current 2nd Amendment jurisprudence," he said. "There just aren't any
historical restrictions on pocket knives at all."
Adam Winkler, a UCLA law professor who focuses on 2nd Amendment law, said
the 9th Circuit's decision "is emblematic of what's happening across the
nation right now.
"Courts are striking down regulation of arms left and right."
Winkler said the Supreme Court "has put states in the impossible position
of showing that any law that regulates weapons for public safety [has]
clear analogues in the 1700s and 1800s," which he added "just leaves
courts to draw analogies to laws that were designed for a different
society."
"It really makes no sense," he said.
After the Bruen decision came down, Hawaii had argued that the knife case
should be sent back to a lower trial court so that the parties could
conduct additional research around the potential historical analogues for
the law. Other cases, including on California gun laws, have been
similarly remanded by the 9th Circuit.
However, Bea and his colleagues disagreed, determining they could rule on
the case in light of Bruen — and decide on the relevance of any purported
analogues — themselves.
Hawaii put forward several such laws, dating back to 1837, including laws
that banned or regulated bigger blades such as Bowie knives and "Arkansas
Toothpicks," daggers, brass knuckles, canes concealing swords and knotted
ropes with metal weights at the end called "slung-shots."
An 1837 law in Georgia — which the court called Hawaii's "best historical
analogue" — said no one shall "keep, or have about or on their person or
elsewhere ... Bowie, or any other kind of knives."
Bea wrote that the Georgia law didn't clearly include "pocketknives" —
which in his decision would include butterfly knives — so it wasn't
necessarily relevant. And anyway, he wrote, "one solitary statute is not
enough to demonstrate a tradition of an arms regulation."
Many of the other laws cited by Hawaii regulated not the possession of
such weapons entirely, but their concealed carry, or their possession by
certain people or in certain places, Bea said. Or, they exempted
pocketknives, Bea said — meaning, in his estimation, that they would not
justify a modern ban on a butterfly knife.
"The butterfly knife is clearly more analogous to an ordinary pocketknife
than to an Arkansas Toothpick or a Bowie knife. And none of the statutes
cited by Hawaii prohibited the carry of pocketknives, much less their
possession outright," Bea wrote.
Winkler said different courts have approached such analyses in vastly
different ways since the Bruen decision came down, and Monday's decision
was just another example of how little clarity there is from Bruen on how
the process should work and what sort of historical laws represent
appropriate analogues for modern laws.
The conservative-leaning Supreme Court could provide more clarity in a
case it has already said it will hear, over whether domestic abusers and
others with restraining orders have a right to own guns under the new
Bruen framework. But other cases, including the butterfly knife case,
could land back before the high court as well, Winkler said.
"The court has to provide more clarity and direction for the lower
courts," Winkler said, "because the Bruen test has proven absolutely
unworkable and unpredictable."
Monday's decision may be reconsidered first in the 9th Circuit before a
larger, 11-judge "en banc" panel. The judges of the circuit are closely
divided between conservative and liberal judges.
An array of weapons laws are being relitigated in lower courts as a result
of the Bruen decision, including California bans on assault weapons and on
large-capacity ammunition magazines.
This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.
Mr. A
1 day ago
Butterfly knife is not ideal for knife fight anyway.
Simply put, it takes too long to deploy effectively.
All that twirly whirly stuff is just hollywood flash.
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