Open letter to my Senators about Health care
Beam Me Up Scotty
Dear Senators,
I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support any
health care fixes at this point in time. The economy will NO longer
withstand your wasteful spending. Unemployment is climbing and taxes
and wasteful spending will only make things worse. If you do vote in any
way for a Bill that will move any health care Bill forward in any way I
will absolutely work and financially support your opponent in the coming
primary elections. But wait, that's NOT all, I fully intend to work to
get you out of office and I will also work to see that you are NEVER
appointed by any politician to any office. I will ad your bloodline to
my list of people and Families that I will take an interest in and
actively work to economically and politically ensure their total
failure. That means that not just you will see my long and tireless
opposition and vocal smears but all that are closest to you.
I fully intend to work tirelessly to oust you and have you made a
political pariah.... This particular Health care issue is the breaking
point and if you defy the people, your own constituants, you can believe
I will have no greater goal in life than to see your Name become the
most spat upon name where ever you go.
Thank you and have a NICE DAY.
Sincerely,
Your most interested Constituent
John Galt
>
> Dear Senators,
>
> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support any
> health care fixes at this point in time. The economy will NO longer
> withstand your wasteful spending.
CNBC just had a double slap on this.
Jud Gregg was on, and said that the CBO numbers that do NOT use the
revenue-first-then-expense bookeeping trick that the Senate is using
shows the first ten years of full implementation will cost 2.5 TRILLION
dollars.
Then, David Walker, Clinton's Comptroller General, came on, and just
blasted the Dems for their fiscal irresponsibility with this entire thing.
JG
erschro...@gmail.com
dog.com> wrote:
> Dear Senators,
>
> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support any
> health care fixes at this point in time.
You probably don't support letting African-Americans vote either.
>The economy will NO longer
> withstand your wasteful spending. Unemployment is climbing and taxes
> and wasteful spending will only make things worse.
So why didn't you write this to the Republican Congress from
2003-2008?
>If you do vote in any
> way for a Bill that will move any health care Bill forward in any way I
> will absolutely work and financially support your opponent in the coming
> primary elections. But wait, that's NOT all, I fully intend to work to
> get you out of office and I will also work to see that you are NEVER
> appointed by any politician to any office. I will ad your bloodline to
> my list of people and Families that I will take an interest in and
> actively work to economically and politically ensure their total
> failure. That means that not just you will see my long and tireless
> opposition and vocal smears but all that are closest to you.
Expect a visit from the FBI.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Nov 20, 9:53 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
> dog.com> wrote:
>> Dear Senators,
>>
>> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support any
>> health care fixes at this point in time.
>
> You probably don't support letting African-Americans vote either.
>
>
You are probably an idiot too...
>
>> The economy will NO longer
>> withstand your wasteful spending. Unemployment is climbing and taxes
>> and wasteful spending will only make things worse.
>
> So why didn't you write this to the Republican Congress from
> 2003-2008?
It's to all in any place...
>> If you do vote in any
>> way for a Bill that will move any health care Bill forward in any way I
>> will absolutely work and financially support your opponent in the coming
>> primary elections. But wait, that's NOT all, I fully intend to work to
>> get you out of office and I will also work to see that you are NEVER
>> appointed by any politician to any office. I will ad your bloodline to
>> my list of people and Families that I will take an interest in and
>> actively work to economically and politically ensure their total
>> failure. That means that not just you will see my long and tireless
>> opposition and vocal smears but all that are closest to you.
>
> Expect a visit from the FBI.
Good I relish the chance to make my views clear to the Political class.
Funny that I made no threats, I did promise to NEVER forget their
treachery and I will in all ways available try to hinder their future
prosperity. I have given no help to the Kennedy Family or their
Bloodline "Shriver" and I intend to continue to fight their Oligarchy
aspirations and will do so for who choose this health care bill.
That is no threat. I promised to do that to K-Mart and they went
Bankrupt.... I will do that to all that think they can screw me over
and steal my rights.... If the FBI is interested then my lawyer will
tell them too. If they think they can lock me up for free speech then
that's OK, lets dance, and when they have enough people... that the
courts are jammed and the jails are full, maybe they will listen.
>> I fully intend to work tirelessly to oust you and have you made a
>> political pariah.... This particular Health care issue is the breaking
>> point and if you defy the people, your own constituants, you can believe
>> I will have no greater goal in life than to see your Name become the
>> most spat upon name where ever you go.
>>
>> Thank you and have a NICE DAY.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Your most interested Constituent
>
--
John Galt
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:57:27 -0600, John Galt
> <kad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support any
>>> health care fixes at this point in time. The economy will NO longer
>>> withstand your wasteful spending.
>> CNBC just had a double slap on this
>
Ignore facts at your peril.
JG
John Galt
> On Nov 20, 9:53 am, Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n-
> dog.com> wrote:
>> Dear Senators,
>>
>> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support any
>> health care fixes at this point in time.
>
> You probably don't support letting African-Americans vote either.
>
>
>
>> The economy will NO longer
>> withstand your wasteful spending. Unemployment is climbing and taxes
>> and wasteful spending will only make things worse.
>
> So why didn't you write this to the Republican Congress from
> 2003-2008?
So your "defense" is "two wrongs make a right?"
Please. Could you be any more puerile?
JG
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:53:27 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Senators,
>>
>> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support any
>> health care fixes at this point in time.
>
>
> Having read some of your usenet posts---
>
> Who gives a shit what you think
>
The Senators that I will get out of the running in the primary by giving
money and help to their primary opponent and if not then I will try at
every other moment in time to see them lose.... be it in any place or time.
--
Yup
dog.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> Dear Senators,
>
> >> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support any
> >> health care fixes at this point in time.
>
> > Dear Trafficant-wannabe
>
> > Having read some of your usenet posts---
>
> > Who gives a shit what you think
>
> The Senators that I will get out of the running in the primary by giving
> money and help to their primary opponent and if not then I will try at
> every other moment in time to see them lose.... be it in any place or time.
>
>
You could even make some minor impact in that regard if you weren’t
such an obsessive, full-time Usenet loser/whiner.
Ouroboros Rex
>
> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support any
> health care fixes at this point in time. The economy will NO longer
> withstand your wasteful spending. Unemployment is climbing and taxes
> and wasteful spending will only make things worse. If you do vote in
> any way for a Bill that will move any health care Bill forward in any
> way I will absolutely work and financially support your opponent in
> the coming primary elections. But wait, that's NOT all, I fully
> intend to work to get you out of office and I will also work to see
> that you are NEVER appointed by any politician to any office. I will
> ad your bloodline to my list of people and Families that I will take
> an interest in and actively work to economically and politically
> ensure their total
pop pop pop
(taps)
Ouroboros Rex
> erschro...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Nov 20, 9:53 am, Beam Me Up Scotty
>> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n- dog.com> wrote:
>>> Dear Senators,
>>>
>>> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support
>>> any health care fixes at this point in time.
>>
>> You probably don't support letting African-Americans vote either.
>>
>>
>>
>>> The economy will NO longer
>>> withstand your wasteful spending. Unemployment is climbing and
>>> taxes and wasteful spending will only make things worse.
>>
>> So why didn't you write this to the Republican Congress from
>> 2003-2008?
>
> So your "defense" is "two wrongs make a right?"
Sorry, fixing the economy the republicans destroyed will take time and
money.
Ouroboros Rex
Everyone is laughing at you. =)
WangoTango
Uh huh?????
So, your answer is to waste money and fuck up the economy?
Econotron
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hell-bent on fixing it. I feel better already.
e.
Econotron
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e.
erschro...@gmail.com
Yeah, that 25 cents of yours is going to tip the balance.
John Galt
To the extent the economy has been destroyed by the GOP (and the
situation is quite a bit more complicated that that), the cause was too
much spending.
I can assure you with confidence that the solution is not to spend even
more.
JG
>
Yup
>
> > John Galt wrote:
That depends entirely on what you spend it on. Trillions wasted on
attacking and occupying the wrong nations - tax breaks and tons of
other corporate welfare for the super-rich – these things certainly
took their toll over the first 8 years of this decade – and the best
economists agree – the stimulus package was far too small, but we got
the largest one that was politically feasible at the time. It just
means the recovery happens slower than it otherwise would have – which
was precisely the goal of the disloyal opposition to begin with. Doing
the right thing for the nation would have meant they had no fast track
back to political power.
John Galt
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:40:42 -0600, John Galt
> <kad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Ah, entertainment channl stuff?
>> Ignore facts at your peril.
>
>
> It's a "fact" that ships disappear sailing away from
> shore.
>
> It is NOT truth they fall off the edge of the earth
>
> That's why "facts" can support tortured conclusions,
> Gautloon.
You have a remarkable gift at stating the blatantly obvious, IN ABSTRACT.
None of that has anything to do with the original subject. Go take your
Ritalin.
JG
John Galt
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:42:10 -0600, John Galt
> <kad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So your "defense" is "two wrongs make a right?"
>
> stupid.
>
Straw man. Nobody said "too bad."
If you cant debate on the merits of your own position, I suggest you not
try.
JG
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:37:58 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>>> You probably don't support letting African-Americans vote either.
>>>
>>>
>> You are probably an idiot too...
>
> faction----more than likely you don't realize that your
> side prevented blacks from voting
>
NO I was not alive then and I have been a Libertarian of sorts for 30 years.
This is NOT a conservative plan and I'm NOT conservative, unless you are
talking economic values.
*A LIBERTARIAN BAIL-OUT PLAN*
Reducing regulations is primary since regulation is what stifles
commerce, the more regulations, the more it costs our economy. Most
regulations are used by existing businesses to reduce competition, and
competition would help us get out of this depression.
End the "war on drugs" make them legal(increase competition) and sold at
any drug store and make prostitution legal too, that will take the BIG
money out of trafficking in drugs, and that will reduce the
gangs/dealers income and that should reduce the value of sex slaves and
hurt the slavery business income also. Why have illegal prostitutes
when there are so many legal tax paying prostitutes out there?
Have the States Ratify an amendment withdrawing the 16th amendment...
Maybe enact the http://fairtax.org (Federal sales tax) with the same
amendment that removes income tax. This will reduce the number of tax
crimes that people are in jails for. Then cut every single expenditure
of the government by 10%, and begin to draw down troops as needed from
around the world.
This tax policy will financially assault the drug dealers and hookers
and other underground economy's by forcing them to have to pay tax when
they spend their money, which will further reduce the benefit of dealing
in other illegal stuff. We are "right now" taking money from peoples
pay checks before they get them and at the same time we don't tax drug
dealers or hookers and illegals or others at all. Sales tax will also
encourage saving money rather than encouraging the leveraging of every
dime you can get like income tax does.
This will drive people in the underground economy to become part of the
real economy. It will stop most of the turf killings and end our
Immigration problems with illegals stealing identities since they will
be paying tax(as sales tax). Offer illegals low welfare and charge them
tax and they won't be so eager to come here and we won't need to chase
them......
End social security Medicare, grandfather it out of existence.
Pass an amendment to the constitution that makes all *laws and treaties*
have a four year sunset clause, and it requires that each law be voted
by a separate roll call vote every four years to continue to be
maintained in our laws.
Pass another amendment creating term limits on congress so the House has
4 terms and the Senate has 2 terms.
We need to quit filling the jails with people over *social taboos* , we
need to take away congress' ability to "regulate" businesses/people
using tax code. Government needs to spend 10% less every year until they
meet the income of the government. And we need to give up our roll as
the police man of the world, let them fight their own fights. We need
fewer people committing crimes, we need fewer police and prisons....this
drug and tax plans.... will reduce police and prison needs by at least
that 10% that this plan suggested cutting.
NO welfare to corporations, and cut welfare to people by 10% each year
until it is 10% of what it is today.
Any way you look at it, we're in DEEP for a long time.
--
Beam Me Up Scotty
more than 50% are against this health care. So my 25 cents and millions
more.
--
Beam Me Up Scotty
Odd that you started to fix the problem of excess spending by spending 3
times as much and Now want to attack health care while America is still
sinking.....
Maybe your side could fix just one thing before you undo a working
health care system.
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Jerry Okamura
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> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:19:26 -0600, John Galt
> <kad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>To the extent the economy has been destroyed by the GOP (and the
>>situation is quite a bit more complicated that that), the cause was too
>>much spending.
>>
>>I can assure you with confidence that the solution is not to spend even
>>more.
>
>
> YOU believe that:
>
> You can ruin the "ship of state", nearly total it, hand
> it over and not expect to "spend money" to fix it?
>
> What tin-hat universe do you live in?
>
Yes. You can for instance, give everyone a huge tax break. You can also
give them some of their own money back to them. The more money the
"citizens" have, the more money they will spend or save. The more money
they spend, the more jobs are "saved" (a popular Obama Administration
argument), and the more jobs that would be needed to service all those
people who would be spending more of their own money. "If" they saved the
money, then banks would have more money to lend out (which means the FRB
would not have to help the banks as much), which of course then means they
don't have to print as much money as they are printing.
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:17:50 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
> politicians and federalism, Bozo.
NO, I don't understand how breathing works either... Tell me more oh
great one.... How many virgins do we need to toss into the volcano?
There is always "one" who has all the better answers isn't there.
--
Beam Me Up Scotty
--
Jerry Okamura
"Yup" <john...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 20, 4:19 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > John Galt wrote:
> >> erschroedin...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Nov 20, 9:53 am, Beam Me Up Scotty
> >>> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n- dog.com> wrote:
> >>>> Dear Senators,
>
> >>>> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support
> >>>> any health care fixes at this point in time.
> >>> You probably don't support letting African-Americans vote either.
>
> >>>> The economy will NO longer
> >>>> withstand your wasteful spending. Unemployment is climbing and
> >>>> taxes and wasteful spending will only make things worse.
> >>> So why didn't you write this to the Republican Congress from
> >>> 2003-2008?
> >> So your "defense" is "two wrongs make a right?"
>
> > Sorry, fixing the economy the republicans destroyed will take time and
> > money.
>
> To the extent the economy has been destroyed by the GOP (and the
> situation is quite a bit more complicated that that), the cause was too
> much spending.
>
> I can assure you with confidence that the solution is not to spend even
> more.
>
That depends entirely on what you spend it on. Trillions wasted on
attacking and occupying the wrong nations -
A matter of personal opinion which was obviously not shared by the Congress.
tax breaks and tons of
other corporate welfare for the super-rich � these things certainly
took their toll over the first 8 years of this decade � and the best
economists agree � the stimulus package was far too small, but we got
the largest one that was politically feasible at the time.
It is "corporate welfare", when the government gives them money, not when
the government takes money away from them. When you tax them less, it was
their money in the first place, and all you are doing is allowing them to
keep more of the money they earned. Besides, who the heck do you really
think pays the taxes that businesses pay? The answer is, their customers
really pay the taxes. How any liberal can think otherwise seems
contradictory to me. You cannot argue that these businesses are evil, and
not expect them to do evil things. If you believe they are evil, then you
should also believe that they are not about to eat the cost, they are simply
going to raise prices enough to offset the loss from taxes.
John Galt
> On Nov 20, 4:19 pm, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> John Galt wrote:
>>>> erschroedin...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 20, 9:53 am, Beam Me Up Scotty
>>>>> <Then-Destroy-Everyth...@Talk-n- dog.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Senators,
>>>>>> I would like to inform you clearly and concisely, I do NOT support
>>>>>> any health care fixes at this point in time.
>>>>> You probably don't support letting African-Americans vote either.
>>>>>> The economy will NO longer
>>>>>> withstand your wasteful spending. Unemployment is climbing and
>>>>>> taxes and wasteful spending will only make things worse.
>>>>> So why didn't you write this to the Republican Congress from
>>>>> 2003-2008?
>>>> So your "defense" is "two wrongs make a right?"
>>> Sorry, fixing the economy the republicans destroyed will take time and
>>> money.
>> To the extent the economy has been destroyed by the GOP (and the
>> situation is quite a bit more complicated that that), the cause was too
>> much spending.
>>
>> I can assure you with confidence that the solution is not to spend even
>> more.
>>
>
> That depends entirely on what you spend it on.
In theory, correct. In practice, the economy has a lot of moving parts,
and a stimulus of 'X' can do precisely nothing to something based on
variables.
Trillions wasted on
> attacking and occupying the wrong nations - tax breaks and tons of
> other corporate welfare for the super-rich � these things certainly
> took their toll over the first 8 years of this decade � and the best
> economists agree
IOW, the economists who you agree with. Whether they are the "best" or
not has to do with one's previous bias towards the Keynesians or the
Austrians, in most cases.
� the stimulus package was far too small, but we got
> the largest one that was politically feasible at the time.
Correct.
It just
> means the recovery happens slower than it otherwise would have � which
> was precisely the goal of the disloyal opposition to begin with.
Some may indeed have had that in the back of their mind. There's little
question that both parties have many members who could give a shit about
Main Street as long as their party consolidates power.
> Doing
> the right thing for the nation would have meant they had no fast track
> back to political power.
Assuming feeding money to Wall Street instead of Main Street was the
right move. I'm the small government guy; I suspect you're not, but
you're supporting bailouts of the rich while I'm taking the populist
position.
Interesting, eh?
JG
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:06:45 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>>> Since you ARE of the loonytarian/conservative idiot
>>> faction----more than likely you don't realize that your
>>> side prevented blacks from voting
>>>
>>
>> NO I was not alive then and I have been a Libertarian of sorts for 30 years.
>
>
> How refreshing
>
> Ever read what America was like when loonytarian
> "principles" ruled?
>
> Probably not.
A beacon of freedom....
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Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:41:01 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>>> You simply don't understand the function of Politics,
>>> politicians and federalism, Bozo.
>> NO, I don't understand how breathing works either... Tell me more oh
>> great one.... How many virgins do we need to toss into the volcano?
>
>
> I elect a politician to look after MY interests. I'm
> constrained to accept that I may not always be in the
> majority in selecting "my" politician---that's part of
> the "Deal" I have to live with
SO when Hitler herds people into camps you will....?
BE constrained?
> But I expect "my" Politician to go meet and argue with
> "your" politician---knowing full well that neither can
> have everything they want--at any given time
Obama is NOT meeting... Obama is threatening and scaring.
> Your problem is that you assign some woe-begotten moral
> characteristic to politicians---and that's NOT their
> function. You want moral and ethical stuff---go to
> your pastor, priest, or Rabbi.
Nope... To begin I'm NOT religious and believe in moral freedoms as
well as economic freedoms.
--
Beam Me Up Scotty
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:31:06 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>>> Sorry, fixing the economy the republicans destroyed will take time and
>>> money.
>>>
>>>
>> Odd that you started to fix the problem of excess spending by spending 3
>> times as much and Now want to attack health care while America is still
>> sinking.....
>
> why it costs so much to restore it.
>
When will you start the restoration? I think you took the money and
have left town... You don't intend to fix anything.
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Econotron
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to destroy, although they are working on it very hard right now.
e.