Laid-off religious workers denied jobless benefits
buckeye
http://hamptonroads.com/2009/05/laidoff-religious-workers-denied-jobless-benefits
[excerpt]
By Steven G. Vegh
The Virginian-Pilot
� May 18, 2009
God may provide, but the state may not when it comes to unemployment
benefits for employees laid off by churches, synagogues and religious
groups.
Carol Bronson discovered that a few months ago after she lost her
secretarial job at Temple Emanuel synagogue in Virginia Beach. Bronson
assumed she could draw unemployment benefits, but when she filed a claim,
she was denied.
It was a hard way to learn that under Virginia law, tax exemptions for
religious organizations include freedom from paying unemployment taxes. The
groups still must pay Social Security and withholding taxes.
"I had no idea that there would not be any benefits for me after leaving my
job," said Bronson, who worked at the synagogue for two years.
Neither did Rabbi Howard Mandell of Temple Emanuel. The synagogue had no
knowledge of Virginia tax law when it decided on a layoff, he wrote in an
e-mail.
Budget cuts, including layoffs, are one way religious congregations are
coping with a recession that has slashed their income from investments or
contributions.
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Martin
> Laid-off religious workers denied jobless benefits
> http://hamptonroads.com/2009/05/laidoff-religious-workers-denied-jobless-benefits
> [excerpt]
>
> By Steven G. Vegh
> The Virginian-Pilot
> � May 18, 2009
>
> God may provide, but the state may not when it comes to unemployment
> benefits for employees laid off by churches, synagogues and religious
> groups.
>
> Carol Bronson discovered that a few months ago after she lost her
> secretarial job at Temple Emanuel synagogue in Virginia Beach. Bronson
> assumed she could draw unemployment benefits, but when she filed a claim,
> she was denied.
>
> It was a hard way to learn that under Virginia law, tax exemptions for
> religious organizations include freedom from paying unemployment taxes. The
> groups still must pay Social Security and withholding taxes.
Sorry, but I can't help myself ...
tee-hee-hee
Don Martin
> Laid-off religious workers denied jobless benefitshttp://hamptonroads.com/2009/05/laidoff-religious-workers-denied-jobl...
> [excerpt]
>
> By Steven G. Vegh
> The Virginian-Pilot
> © May 18, 2009
>
> God may provide, but the state may not when it comes to unemployment
> benefits for employees laid off by churches, synagogues and religious
> groups.
>
> Carol Bronson discovered that a few months ago after she lost her
> secretarial job at Temple Emanuel synagogue in Virginia Beach. Bronson
> assumed she could draw unemployment benefits, but when she filed a claim,
> she was denied.
>
> It was a hard way to learn that under Virginia law, tax exemptions for
> religious organizations include freedom from paying unemployment taxes.
Tough shitsky for Carol; one wonders why churches get the unpaid-for
benefit of fire and police protection: let their parishioners form
bucket brigades and voluntary security committees.
Kevrob
> one wonders why churches get the unpaid-for
> benefit of fire and police protection: let their parishioners form
> bucket brigades and voluntary security committees.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
In _some_ jurisdictions, non-profits make payments in lieu of taxes -
a user fee, if you will - for municipal services.
Kevin
Mike Painter
> Laid-off religious workers denied jobless benefits
Becasue the church didn't care about the people who worked for them
>
> It was a hard way to learn that under Virginia law, tax exemptions for
> religious organizations include freedom from paying unemployment
> taxes. The groups still must pay Social Security and withholding
> taxes.
<snip>
Larry Hewitt
Most don't.
My town, in SC, provides more than a million dollars in free services to
the literally dozens of religious organizations in the area, services
ranging from electricity, sewer and water infrastructure and reduced
rates(public utilities), roads, police and fire, even land (a mega
church got a sweet deal in a land swap), landscaping (two downtown
churches got the roads, parking lots, and open areas around them
upgraded, including the addition of special curbside dropoffs, at a cost
of $130000 to taxpayers and $0 to them), traffic control, and even free
parking for parishioners at municipal lots during services (one downtown
church's parishioners even park illegally at an adjacent bank's lot,
closing access to the bank's atms and night drops).
Larry
Andres64
> [excerpt]
>
> By Steven G. Vegh
> The Virginian-Pilot
> © May 18, 2009
>
> God may provide, but the state may not when it comes to unemployment
> benefits for employees laid off by churches, synagogues and religious
> groups.
>
> Carol Bronson discovered that a few months ago after she lost her
> secretarial job at Temple Emanuel synagogue in Virginia Beach. Bronson
> assumed she could draw unemployment benefits, but when she filed a claim,
> she was denied.
>
> It was a hard way to learn that under Virginia law, tax exemptions for
> religious organizations include freedom from paying unemployment taxes. The
> groups still must pay Social Security and withholding taxes.
>
> "I had no idea that there would not be any benefits for me after leaving my
> job," said Bronson, who worked at the synagogue for two years.
>
> Neither did Rabbi Howard Mandell of Temple Emanuel. The synagogue had no
> knowledge of Virginia tax law when it decided on a layoff, he wrote in an
> e-mail.
>
> Budget cuts, including layoffs, are one way religious congregations are
> coping with a recession that has slashed their income from investments or
> contributions.
> [end excerpt]
>
lol. I love it.
Lord Calvert
I wonder if they're familiar with Article X of the South Carolina
Constitution.
Section 1, Clause 5) All other real property not herein provided for
shall be taxed on an assessment equal to six percent of the fair
market value of such property.
Section 3 lists what properties are exempt from taxation. The
properties of religious organizations are not included in that list.
So, any religious organization that is not paying the 6% tax on their
property within the state of South Carolina is in direct violation
Article X of the State Constitution. Section 11 of Article X also
states that religious organizations cannot be given public funds and
that is further reinforced by Section 4 of Article XI in regards to
religious educational organizations (South Carolina's version of the
Blaine Amendment).
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/scconstitution/a10.htm
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/scconstitution/a11.htm
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
Robibnikoff
"Don Martin" <drdon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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But, won't god provide?
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Robyn
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The Wandering Poet
It's probably in conflict with the Religious Land Use and
Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA). Churches can basically do
anything as long as its something similar to what someone else may
possibly be thinking of doing somewhere down the line. Someone will
eventually sue under that act and get the SC law changed.
>
> Rich Goranson
> Amherst, NY, USA
> aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
> EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography- Hide quoted text -