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Ramon F. Herrera
Oct 14, 2023, 1:25:03 AM10/14/23
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In article <ugcm99$3folq$1...@dont-email.me>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Democrats are stupid criminals.
No argument here.
PHOENIX (AP) — With anti-immigrant rhetoric bubbling over in the
leadup to this year’s critical midterm elections, about 1 in 3
U.S. adults believes an effort is underway to replace U.S.-born
Americans with immigrants for electoral gains.
About 3 in 10 also worry that more immigration is causing U.S.-
born Americans to lose their economic, political and cultural
influence, according to a poll by the Associated Press–NORC
Center for Public Affairs Research. Republicans are more likely
than Democrats to fear a loss of influence because of
immigration, 36% to 27%.
Newly arrived immigrants are barred from voting in federal
elections because they aren’t citizens, and gaining citizenship
is an arduous process that can take a decade or more, when they
are successful at all.
Those views mirror swelling anti-immigrant sentiment espoused on
social media and cable TV, with conservative commentators like
Tucker Carlson exploiting fears that new arrivals could
undermine the native-born population.
In their most extreme manifestation, those increasingly public
views in the U.S. and Europe tap into a decades-old conspiracy
theory known as the “great replacement,” a false claim that
native-born populations are being overrun by nonwhite immigrants
who are eroding, and eventually will erase, their culture and
values. The once-taboo term became the mantra of one
conservative candidate in the recent French presidential
election.
“I very much believe that the Democrats — from Joe Biden and
Nancy Pelosi, all the way down — want to get the illegal
immigrants in here and give them voting rights immediately,”
said Sally Gansz, 80. Actually, only U.S. citizens can vote in
state and federal elections, and attaining citizenship typically
takes years.
A white Republican, Gansz has lived her whole life in Trinidad,
Colo., where about half of the population of 8,300 identifies as
Hispanic, most with roots going back centuries to the region’s
Spanish settlers.
“Isn’t it obvious that I watch Fox?” quipped Gansz, who said she
watches the conservative channel almost daily, including the
prime-time Fox News Channel program “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” a
major proponent of those ideas.
‘I very much believe that the Democrats — from Joe Biden and
Nancy Pelosi, all the way down — want to get the illegal
immigrants in here and give them voting rights immediately.’
— Sally Gansz, Trinidad, Colo.
News Corp, parent of MarketWatch publisher Dow Jones, and Fox
News parent Fox Corp. share common ownership.
“Demographic change is the key to the Democratic Party’s
political ambitions,” Carlson said on the show last year. “In
order to win and maintain power, Democrats plan to change the
population of the country.”
Those views aren’t held by a majority of Americans — in fact,
two-thirds feel the country’s diverse population makes the U.S.
stronger, and far more favor than oppose a path to legal status
for immigrants brought into the U.S. illegally as children. But
the deep anxieties expressed by some Americans help explain how
the issue energizes those opposed to immigration.
“I don’t feel like immigration really affects me or that it
undermines American values,” said Daniel Valdes, 43, a
registered Democrat who works in finance for an aeronautical
firm on Florida’s Space Coast. “I’m pretty indifferent about it
all.”
Valdes’s maternal grandparents came to the U.S. from Mexico, and
he said he has “tons” of relatives in the border city of El
Paso, Texas. He has Puerto Rican roots on his father’s side.
While Republicans worry more than Democrats about immigration,
the most intense anxiety was among people with the greatest
tendency for conspiratorial thinking. That’s defined as those
most likely to agree with a series of statements, like much of
people’s lives is “being controlled by plots hatched in secret
places” and “big events like wars, recessions, and the outcomes
of elections are controlled by small groups of people who are
working in secret against the rest of us.”
An audit in the state of Georgia found fewer than 2,000
instances of noncitizens attempting to register and vote over
the last quarter-century — and none of those people succeeding.
In all, 17% in the poll believe both that native-born Americans
are losing influence because of the growing population of
immigrants and that a group of people in the country is trying
to replace native-born Americans with immigrants who agree with
their political views. That number rises to 42% among the
quarter of Americans most likely to embrace other conspiracy
theories.
‘Most of the immigrants I have seen have a good work ethic, they
pay taxes and have a strong sense of family.’— Teresa
Covarrubias, Los Angeles
Alex Hoxeng, 37, a white Republican from Midland, Texas, said he
found those most extreme versions of the immigration
conspiracies “a bit far-fetched” but does believe immigration
could lessen the influence of U.S.-born Americans. “I feel like
if we are flooded with immigrants coming illegally, it can
dilute our culture,” Hoxeng said.
Teresa Covarrubias, 62, rejects the idea that immigrants are
undermining the values or culture of U.S.-born Americans or that
they are being brought in to shore up the Democratic voter base.
She is registered to vote but is not aligned with any party.
“Most of the immigrants I have seen have a good work ethic, they
pay taxes and have a strong sense of family,” said Covarrubias,
a second-grade teacher in Los Angeles whose four grandparents
came to the U.S. from Mexico. “They help our country.”
Republican leaders, including border governors Doug Ducey of
Arizona and Greg Abbott of Texas — who is running for re-
election this year — have increasingly decried what they call an
“invasion,” with conservative politicians traveling to the U.S.-
Mexico border to pose for photos alongside former President
Donald Trump’s border wall.
Vulnerable Democratic senators up for election this year in
Arizona, Georgia, New Hampshire and Nevada have joined many
Republicans in calling on the Biden administration to wait on
lifting the coronavirus-era public health rule known as Title 42
that denies migrants a chance to seek asylum. They fear it could
draw more immigrants to the border than officials can handle.
From the archives (June 2021): How to treat ‘election deniers’
and ‘Big Lie’ adherents is an ongoing challenge for mainstream
news organizations
See: Trump-aligned broadcaster OAN airs segment admitting
Georgia election workers ‘did not engage in ballot fraud or
criminal misconduct’
U.S. authorities stopped migrants more than 221,000 times at the
Mexican border in March, a 22-year high, creating a fraught
political landscape for Democrats as the Biden administration
prepares to lift Title 42 authority May 23. The pandemic powers
have been used to expel migrants more than 1.8 million times
since it was invoked in March 2020 on the grounds of preventing
the spread of COVID-19.
The backdrop: Biden administration set to lift COVID limitations
on asylum claims at southern border
Also see: U.S. has quietly been expelling more migrants while
preparing to end asylum restrictions
And: Texas Gov. Abbott’s migrant bus discharges passengers at
Washington, D.C., building housing Fox News and other
broadcasters
Newly arrived immigrants are barred from voting in federal
elections because they aren’t citizens, and gaining citizenship
is an arduous process that can take a decade or more — if they
are successful. In most cases, they must first obtain permanent
residency, then wait five more years before they can apply for
citizenship.
U.S. authorities stopped migrants more than 221,000 times at the
Mexican border in March, a 22-year high.
Investigations have failed to turn up evidence of widespread
voting by people who aren’t eligible, including by noncitizens.
For example, a Georgia audit of its voter rolls completed this
year found fewer than 2,000 instances of noncitizens attempting
to register and vote over the last 25 years, none of which
succeeded.
Blake Masters, a candidate for Senate in Arizona, is among the
Republicans running for office this year who have played into
anxieties about a changing population.
“What the left really wants to do is change the demographics of
this country,” he said in a video recorded in October. “They
want to do that so they can consolidate power so they can never
lose another election.”
The AP-NORC poll of 4,173 adults was conducted Dec. 1–23, 2021,
using a combined sample of interviews from NORC’s probability-
based AmeriSpeak Panel, which is designed to be representative
of the U.S. population, and interviews from opt-in online
panels. The margin of sampling error for all respondents is plus
or minus 1.96 percentage points.
The AmeriSpeak panel is recruited randomly using address-based
sampling methods, and respondents later were interviewed online
or by phone.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/poll-finds-one-third-of-adults-
say-they-think-an-effort-is-afoot-to-replace-native-born-
americans-with-new-immigrants-for-electoral-purposes-
01652314775?siteid=yhoof2
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Democrats are stupid criminals.
No argument here.
PHOENIX (AP) — With anti-immigrant rhetoric bubbling over in the
leadup to this year’s critical midterm elections, about 1 in 3
U.S. adults believes an effort is underway to replace U.S.-born
Americans with immigrants for electoral gains.
About 3 in 10 also worry that more immigration is causing U.S.-
born Americans to lose their economic, political and cultural
influence, according to a poll by the Associated Press–NORC
Center for Public Affairs Research. Republicans are more likely
than Democrats to fear a loss of influence because of
immigration, 36% to 27%.
Newly arrived immigrants are barred from voting in federal
elections because they aren’t citizens, and gaining citizenship
is an arduous process that can take a decade or more, when they
are successful at all.
Those views mirror swelling anti-immigrant sentiment espoused on
social media and cable TV, with conservative commentators like
Tucker Carlson exploiting fears that new arrivals could
undermine the native-born population.
In their most extreme manifestation, those increasingly public
views in the U.S. and Europe tap into a decades-old conspiracy
theory known as the “great replacement,” a false claim that
native-born populations are being overrun by nonwhite immigrants
who are eroding, and eventually will erase, their culture and
values. The once-taboo term became the mantra of one
conservative candidate in the recent French presidential
election.
“I very much believe that the Democrats — from Joe Biden and
Nancy Pelosi, all the way down — want to get the illegal
immigrants in here and give them voting rights immediately,”
said Sally Gansz, 80. Actually, only U.S. citizens can vote in
state and federal elections, and attaining citizenship typically
takes years.
A white Republican, Gansz has lived her whole life in Trinidad,
Colo., where about half of the population of 8,300 identifies as
Hispanic, most with roots going back centuries to the region’s
Spanish settlers.
“Isn’t it obvious that I watch Fox?” quipped Gansz, who said she
watches the conservative channel almost daily, including the
prime-time Fox News Channel program “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” a
major proponent of those ideas.
‘I very much believe that the Democrats — from Joe Biden and
Nancy Pelosi, all the way down — want to get the illegal
immigrants in here and give them voting rights immediately.’
— Sally Gansz, Trinidad, Colo.
News Corp, parent of MarketWatch publisher Dow Jones, and Fox
News parent Fox Corp. share common ownership.
“Demographic change is the key to the Democratic Party’s
political ambitions,” Carlson said on the show last year. “In
order to win and maintain power, Democrats plan to change the
population of the country.”
Those views aren’t held by a majority of Americans — in fact,
two-thirds feel the country’s diverse population makes the U.S.
stronger, and far more favor than oppose a path to legal status
for immigrants brought into the U.S. illegally as children. But
the deep anxieties expressed by some Americans help explain how
the issue energizes those opposed to immigration.
“I don’t feel like immigration really affects me or that it
undermines American values,” said Daniel Valdes, 43, a
registered Democrat who works in finance for an aeronautical
firm on Florida’s Space Coast. “I’m pretty indifferent about it
all.”
Valdes’s maternal grandparents came to the U.S. from Mexico, and
he said he has “tons” of relatives in the border city of El
Paso, Texas. He has Puerto Rican roots on his father’s side.
While Republicans worry more than Democrats about immigration,
the most intense anxiety was among people with the greatest
tendency for conspiratorial thinking. That’s defined as those
most likely to agree with a series of statements, like much of
people’s lives is “being controlled by plots hatched in secret
places” and “big events like wars, recessions, and the outcomes
of elections are controlled by small groups of people who are
working in secret against the rest of us.”
An audit in the state of Georgia found fewer than 2,000
instances of noncitizens attempting to register and vote over
the last quarter-century — and none of those people succeeding.
In all, 17% in the poll believe both that native-born Americans
are losing influence because of the growing population of
immigrants and that a group of people in the country is trying
to replace native-born Americans with immigrants who agree with
their political views. That number rises to 42% among the
quarter of Americans most likely to embrace other conspiracy
theories.
‘Most of the immigrants I have seen have a good work ethic, they
pay taxes and have a strong sense of family.’— Teresa
Covarrubias, Los Angeles
Alex Hoxeng, 37, a white Republican from Midland, Texas, said he
found those most extreme versions of the immigration
conspiracies “a bit far-fetched” but does believe immigration
could lessen the influence of U.S.-born Americans. “I feel like
if we are flooded with immigrants coming illegally, it can
dilute our culture,” Hoxeng said.
Teresa Covarrubias, 62, rejects the idea that immigrants are
undermining the values or culture of U.S.-born Americans or that
they are being brought in to shore up the Democratic voter base.
She is registered to vote but is not aligned with any party.
“Most of the immigrants I have seen have a good work ethic, they
pay taxes and have a strong sense of family,” said Covarrubias,
a second-grade teacher in Los Angeles whose four grandparents
came to the U.S. from Mexico. “They help our country.”
Republican leaders, including border governors Doug Ducey of
Arizona and Greg Abbott of Texas — who is running for re-
election this year — have increasingly decried what they call an
“invasion,” with conservative politicians traveling to the U.S.-
Mexico border to pose for photos alongside former President
Donald Trump’s border wall.
Vulnerable Democratic senators up for election this year in
Arizona, Georgia, New Hampshire and Nevada have joined many
Republicans in calling on the Biden administration to wait on
lifting the coronavirus-era public health rule known as Title 42
that denies migrants a chance to seek asylum. They fear it could
draw more immigrants to the border than officials can handle.
From the archives (June 2021): How to treat ‘election deniers’
and ‘Big Lie’ adherents is an ongoing challenge for mainstream
news organizations
See: Trump-aligned broadcaster OAN airs segment admitting
Georgia election workers ‘did not engage in ballot fraud or
criminal misconduct’
U.S. authorities stopped migrants more than 221,000 times at the
Mexican border in March, a 22-year high, creating a fraught
political landscape for Democrats as the Biden administration
prepares to lift Title 42 authority May 23. The pandemic powers
have been used to expel migrants more than 1.8 million times
since it was invoked in March 2020 on the grounds of preventing
the spread of COVID-19.
The backdrop: Biden administration set to lift COVID limitations
on asylum claims at southern border
Also see: U.S. has quietly been expelling more migrants while
preparing to end asylum restrictions
And: Texas Gov. Abbott’s migrant bus discharges passengers at
Washington, D.C., building housing Fox News and other
broadcasters
Newly arrived immigrants are barred from voting in federal
elections because they aren’t citizens, and gaining citizenship
is an arduous process that can take a decade or more — if they
are successful. In most cases, they must first obtain permanent
residency, then wait five more years before they can apply for
citizenship.
U.S. authorities stopped migrants more than 221,000 times at the
Mexican border in March, a 22-year high.
Investigations have failed to turn up evidence of widespread
voting by people who aren’t eligible, including by noncitizens.
For example, a Georgia audit of its voter rolls completed this
year found fewer than 2,000 instances of noncitizens attempting
to register and vote over the last 25 years, none of which
succeeded.
Blake Masters, a candidate for Senate in Arizona, is among the
Republicans running for office this year who have played into
anxieties about a changing population.
“What the left really wants to do is change the demographics of
this country,” he said in a video recorded in October. “They
want to do that so they can consolidate power so they can never
lose another election.”
The AP-NORC poll of 4,173 adults was conducted Dec. 1–23, 2021,
using a combined sample of interviews from NORC’s probability-
based AmeriSpeak Panel, which is designed to be representative
of the U.S. population, and interviews from opt-in online
panels. The margin of sampling error for all respondents is plus
or minus 1.96 percentage points.
The AmeriSpeak panel is recruited randomly using address-based
sampling methods, and respondents later were interviewed online
or by phone.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/poll-finds-one-third-of-adults-
say-they-think-an-effort-is-afoot-to-replace-native-born-
americans-with-new-immigrants-for-electoral-purposes-
01652314775?siteid=yhoof2
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Oct 14, 2023, 12:44:47 PM10/14/23
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On 10/14/23 1:23 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> In article <ugcm99$3folq$1...@dont-email.me>
> governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Democrats are stupid criminals.
>
> No argument here.
>
> PHOENIX (AP) — With anti-immigrant rhetoric bubbling over in the
> leadup to this year’s critical midterm elections, about 1 in 3
> U.S. adults believes an effort is underway to replace U.S.-born
> Americans with immigrants for electoral gains.
There are TWO reasons the lefties are doing this.
> In article <ugcm99$3folq$1...@dont-email.me>
> governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Democrats are stupid criminals.
>
> No argument here.
>
> PHOENIX (AP) — With anti-immigrant rhetoric bubbling over in the
> leadup to this year’s critical midterm elections, about 1 in 3
> U.S. adults believes an effort is underway to replace U.S.-born
> Americans with immigrants for electoral gains.
The first is clearly an attempt to shift the elections
landscape in their favor. However I think this is going
to backfire badly because most of those 'migrants' are
NOT lefties - conservative Catholics instead. Many are
very aware of, or have personally experienced, the
giant lie of 'communism' also. So, basically, the Dems
are importing Young Republicans.
The second reason relates to US population demographics.
This is not just a US issue either, but over much of
the 1st-world. NOT ENOUGH BABIES ... 1st-worlders feel
safe and supported and have no motivation to plop out
a dozen kids as their future support/protection. So,
they don't. Native pop growth across much of the 1st-
world is well into the sub-replacement zone. The
natives are un-breeding themselves out of existence.
This soon causes an "inverted economy". Normal economies,
where there are a lot of youth at the bottom of the
pyramid, are the only kind I'm aware of that can actually
WORK. Some years back I asked a question in usenet groups
as to whether anybody had heard of, or could propose, a
viable economy that works with an inverted pyramid.
Sound of crickets ....
So ... the OTHER use for the 'migrants' is to bolster
the base of our population pyramid ... people who can
do the work and PAY TAXES. If there's no internal
supply, well, you IMPORT such workers. No way around it.
Even xenophobic Japan is now bringing in lots of "workers"
from abroad - and a surprising number from Africa.
"Robots" ... that's a very theoretical way to make an
inverted pyramid operate ... but "robots" of the needed
sophistication, suitable as quasi-general-purpose
"slave labor", appear to be a long way off despite all
the hype about Chat/Watson and friends.
Ramon F. Herrera
Feb 22, 2024, 4:25:04 AMFeb 22
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In article <t2nn2d$3oh5m$1...@news.freedyn.de>
trumps bitch <patr...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> Democrats are stupid criminals.
No argument here.
PHOENIX (AP) — With anti-immigrant rhetoric bubbling over in the
leadup to this year’s critical midterm elections, about 1 in 3
U.S. adults believes an effort is underway to replace U.S.-born
Americans with immigrants for electoral gains.
>
> Democrats are stupid criminals.
No argument here.
PHOENIX (AP) — With anti-immigrant rhetoric bubbling over in the
leadup to this year’s critical midterm elections, about 1 in 3
U.S. adults believes an effort is underway to replace U.S.-born
Americans with immigrants for electoral gains.
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