Save England. The English are not one race. There's Anglo-Saxons, Anglo-Celts and Anglo-Latins and newer breeds such as Anglo-Asians and Anglo-Africans.
Andy
England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
No-one is pure-bred
Andy
The Todal
"Andy" <andrewricha...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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w'en mi jus' come to Landan toun
mi use to work pan di andahgroun
but workin' pan di andahgroun
y'u don't get fi know your way aroun'
Inglan is a bitch
dere's no escapin' it
Inglan is a bitch
dere's no runnin' whey fram it.
mi get a lickle jab in a big 'otell
an' awftah a while, mi woz doin' quite well
dem staat mi aaf as a dish-washah
but w'en mi tek a stack, mi noh tun clack-watchah!
Inglan is a bitch
dere's no escapin it
Inglan is a bitch
noh baddah try fi hide fram it.
well mi dhu day wok an' mid dhu nite wok
mi dhu clean wok an' mid dhu dutty wok
dem seh dat black man is very lazy
but it y'u si how mi wok y'u woulda sey mi crazy
Inglan is a bitch
dere's no escapin it
Inglan is a bitch
y'u bettah face up to it.
mi know dem have work, work in abundant
yet still, dem mek mi redundant
now, at fifty-five mi gettin' quite ol'
yet still, dem sen' mi fi goh draw dole
Inglan is a bitch
dere's no escapin it
Inglan is a bitch fi true
is whey wi a goh dhu 'bout it?
Andy
> "Andy" <andrewrichardwainwri...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
Any society is going to have some form of racial/religious/cultural
segregation. In England the main one is class.
I believe people should be allowed to choose who they hang out with or
breed with. Let love lead the way.
So, they'll always be blondes and always be blacks, and the many
different shades in between.
Freedom will always be a cause worth fighting for. Don't let Nasty
Nick Griffin take that away. England is many things, good or bad, but
fascism ain't England.
Lisa Windsor is the queen of upper class culture, Lisa L'Anson the
queen of lower class culture. I can remember watching a R1 roadshow in
Clacton-on-sea with my sister, also called Elizabeth , who's a speech
therapist and prior to that, an actress. She can be Jade in the winter
and Javine with a suntan. That's the last time we were really good
friends, before religion came between us. Griffin and his mates are
just reopening the catholic/protestant divide, and jeopardising my
sister's relationship with a really nice guy who's white with a
conservative outlook- a shame as it's true love!. My other sister ,
Mary , looks like Geri in the winter and Estelle in the summer.
BTW Posh Spice looks exactly like QE2 but loads younger. Possibly both
descendents of Queen Victoria. Scary is apparently descended from Liz
the first's sister Mary. My missus Cathy, who's also my lyricist used
to get snapped by the paperazzi all the time because she looked like
Mrs Beckham (and I look like Dave with my hair died and cut short too)
- a bizzare relationship, because when Victoria gets very thin, Katie
gets very fat. She's had a life threatening and very debilitating
medical condition caused by keeping out of the sun to be light skinned
(like Michael Jackson , Elvis etc). Caused by years of racist abuse-
so when I compare paedos and racists I know what I'm talking about.
England is big enough for ALL of us. Extremists however, whether
Islamic or BNP or anything else don't belong here. Whites, yes,
Muslims, yes, extremists and terrorists, no. Because they are
criminals. Full stop. If paedos want to wank over child porn, fine.
But abusing children, and encouraging it is pure and simply wrong.
My sound engineer is fucked up in the head because of racial abuse as
a kid (Anglo-Jamaican) , which has meant he has had to have a lot of
time off work, and not paid tax, which could have paid for doctors,
nurses or cops.
Lou Ravi
> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
There were certainly fewer gang rapes and honor killings.
Do they count?
--
Dirk
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http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
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White Spirit
>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
Well, there were certainly a lot less!
White Spirit
> Lou Ravi wrote:
Sorry, I meant to say fewer.
There were certainly a lot fewer!
William Black
> Lou Ravi wrote:
>> Maria wrote:
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
>>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
>>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>>>>
>>>> No-one is pure-bred
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
>>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>>
>> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
>> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>
> There were certainly fewer gang rapes and honor killings.
There are less than 150 'Honour crimes' a year involving violence .
It is hardly a significant figure.
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
Andy
Diana? Now that's an honour killing and a half. Or maybe just a car
crash and a half.
There's an old Jewish joke that I think is very true.
Little Johnny asks his dad, "where do people come from"
Dad says "well there were monkeys, and they evolved into people"
Next day he asks his mum the same question
"where fo people come from"
She replies, "well God made Adam and Eve, and we're descended from
them"
Johnny says "I'm confused, because dad says we were descended from
apes"
"Well, he's right too. He's describing his side of the family, I'm
talking about mine"
White Spirit
> So, they'll always be blondes and always be blacks, and the many
> different shades in between.
Blond genes are recessive...
> BTW Posh Spice looks exactly like QE2 but loads younger. Possibly both
> descendents of Queen Victoria. Scary is apparently descended from Liz
> the first's sister Mary. My missus Cathy, who's also my lyricist used
> to get snapped by the paperazzi all the time because she looked like
> Mrs Beckham (and I look like Dave with my hair died and cut short too)
> - a bizzare relationship, because when Victoria gets very thin, Katie
> gets very fat.
What exactly are you tripping on, Andy?
> She's had a life threatening and very debilitating
> medical condition caused by keeping out of the sun to be light skinned
> (like Michael Jackson , Elvis etc). Caused by years of racist abuse-
> so when I compare paedos and racists I know what I'm talking about.
You seldom know what you're talking about. You're seldom lucid as it is.
> England is big enough for ALL of us.
England is horrifically overcrowded.
> Extremists however, whether
> Islamic or BNP or anything else don't belong here.
Referring to the BNP as extremist is pure social engineering.
> If paedos want to wank over child porn, fine.
That's fucking sick.
> But abusing children, and encouraging it is pure and simply wrong.
You want to let them 'wank over child porn', which is encouraging it.
> My sound engineer is fucked up in the head because of racial abuse as
> a kid (Anglo-Jamaican) , which has meant he has had to have a lot of
> time off work, and not paid tax, which could have paid for doctors,
> nurses or cops.
Poor baby.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
>>>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
>>>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> No-one is pure-bred
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
>>>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>>>
>>> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
>>> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>>
>> There were certainly fewer gang rapes and honor killings.
>
> There are less than 150 'Honour crimes' a year involving violence .
>
> It is hardly a significant figure.
Well, that's OK then.
William Black
> William Black wrote:
>> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>>> Maria wrote:
>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
>>>>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
>>>>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No-one is pure-bred
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
>>>>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>>>>
>>>> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
>>>> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>>>
>>> There were certainly fewer gang rapes and honor killings.
>>
>> There are less than 150 'Honour crimes' a year involving violence .
>>
>> It is hardly a significant figure.
>
> Well, that's OK then.
>
No, it's no OK, but it isn't a major problem for our society either.
As is so often the case on this group you follow 'the fallacy of the
excluded centre'
Andy
> Referring to the BNP as extremist is pure social engineering.
Well, I'd like to see a more equal and caring society. Injustice
causes violent revolution, which is painful for everyone.
But then again, I don't actually believe in social engineering, as do
communists , fascists etc. Let people choose how to live their life,
with a state to make sure people don't get robbed, raped, beaten ,
murdered , starved , diseased or uneducated.
I'm not jealous of the rich OR the poor. I've got a 3-bed house for me
and the wife, a car, a van. As we're muscians, a studio too. And a
couple of cats. We have no children together , though some from
previous relationships. Don't even have a boat any more, because we
couldn't afford the costs of keeping it. Better off than some poor
folk abroad, and grateful that it's not me. YOU should try counting
your blessings.
Luxury items pretty much limited to my hi-fi stack.
I don't really get your angle. I mean, why do you feel the need to
hate everyone? Your problem, not mine...
BNP stand for social engineering without social justice- failed
thatcherite social policies meets failed old labour economic policies,
I stand for the opposite- politics that actually work.
Jealousy doesn't run a country. Ideas and actions do.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>>>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>>>> Maria wrote:
>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
>>>>>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
>>>>>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No-one is pure-bred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
>>>>>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
>>>>> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>>>>
>>>> There were certainly fewer gang rapes and honor killings.
>>>
>>> There are less than 150 'Honour crimes' a year involving violence .
>>>
>>> It is hardly a significant figure.
>>
>> Well, that's OK then.
>>
>
> No, it's no OK, but it isn't a major problem for our society either.
>
> As is so often the case on this group you follow 'the fallacy of the
> excluded centre'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jun/05/gender.ukcrime
White Spirit
>> Referring to the BNP as extremist is pure social engineering.
> Well, I'd like to see a more equal and caring society.
People aren't equal and if you care too much, people will just take
advantage. Society has to be based around responsibility and obligation.
> Injustice
> causes violent revolution, which is painful for everyone.
Labour are guilty of some of the worst injustices this country has seen
in years.
> YOU should try counting
> your blessings.
I do, but I don't stop looking at things that are wrong in so doing...
> I don't really get your angle. I mean, why do you feel the need to
> hate everyone? Your problem, not mine...
I don't hate people, I just don't want them all here causing economic
and social deprivation for the indigenous British.
> BNP stand for social engineering without social justice- failed
> thatcherite social policies meets failed old labour economic policies,
Completely wrong.
> I stand for the opposite- politics that actually work.
And what policies are those?
> Jealousy doesn't run a country. Ideas and actions do.
The action necessary to carry out ideas requires a mandate...
Mr. Spigot
So, why am I told that houses are in short supply, that we are running out
of water, running out of landfill, that we need congestion charges, and that
we produce too much CO2? Surely more immigration will mean more pressure on
all of these?
TBH, I personally don't mind /productive/ immigrants, but FFS build more
houses, roads, and stop penalizing us for CO2 and landfill; and accept that
a larger population in a developed country will create more damage to the
environment.
Andy
Tell ya what, giz some links to your band , and we can chat about
music instead. I think you've done that already, but I've lost them.
What I heard before wasn't too bad, not really my scene, but I'm
working on a metal project soon. I think you can play guitar better
than me :)
Fred
There were probably plenty I'm sure so no need to import more robbers.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
We didn't have a race relations problem either, until we imported one.
Andy
> Fred wrote:
> > Lou Ravi wrote:
> >> Maria wrote:
> >>> Andy wrote:
> >>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
> >>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
> >>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>
> >>>> No-one is pure-bred
>
> >>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
> >>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>
> >> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
> >> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>
> > There were probably plenty I'm sure so no need to import more robbers.
>
> We didn't have a race relations problem either, until we imported one.
>
> --
> Dirk
>
Northern Ireland tells a different story. Much more ethnic tension
there than Hackney, which although can be a bit heavy at times, unless
you're a gangsta is relatively safe and even harmonious.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> On 9 Dec, 17:47, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Fred wrote:
>>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>>> Maria wrote:
>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
>>>>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
>>>>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>>>>>> No-one is pure-bred
>>>>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
>>>>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>>>> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
>>>> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>>> There were probably plenty I'm sure so no need to import more robbers.
>> We didn't have a race relations problem either, until we imported one.
>>
>> --
>> Dirk
>>
>> http://www.transcendence.me.uk/- Transcendence UKhttp://www.theconsensus.org/- A UK political partyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe- Occult Talk Show
>
> Northern Ireland tells a different story. Much more ethnic tension
Northern Ireland tells a story of religious differences that are slight
compared to what exist now in many UK cities.
> there than Hackney, which although can be a bit heavy at times, unless
> you're a gangsta is relatively safe and even harmonious.
Safe, as in not much killing compared to South Africa.
Mustapha Allah
England in the 1950's before mass immigration had hardly no crime
whatsoever!
®i©ardo
> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
>>>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
>>>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> No-one is pure-bred
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
>>>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>>>
>>> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
>>> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>>
>> There were certainly fewer gang rapes and honor killings.
>
> There are less than 150 'Honour crimes' a year involving violence .
>
> It is hardly a significant figure.
>
>
>
Unless you're a victim!
--
Moving things in still pictures
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
Be fair - it had a crime rate about 5% of what it is now.
Eunometic
wrote:
> Fred wrote:
> > Lou Ravi wrote:
> >> Maria wrote:
> >>> Andy wrote:
> >>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
> >>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
> >>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>
> >>>> No-one is pure-bred
>
> >>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
> >>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>
> >> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
> >> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>
> > There were probably plenty I'm sure so no need to import more robbers.
>
> We didn't have a race relations problem either, until we imported one.
>
The reason that Britain was not riven by deep social schisms is the
past is that a demographic ballast was provided by the apolitical
tolerance of and homogenity of the great majority:. The subcultures
that do have a surfeit social, crime or "chip on the shoulder" issues
or are of a desire to dictate to others were small in number.
They are however growing, rapidly and folks are noticing.
Hence Britain is showing signs that it will ease up on Muslim fanatics
and concentrate on Whites instead.
Eunometic
wrote:
> Mustapha Allah wrote:
> > On 9 Dec, 13:02, "Lou Ravi" <j.mur...@libertysurf.fr> wrote:
> >> Maria wrote:
> >>> Andy wrote:
> >>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
> >>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
> >>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
> >>>> No-one is pure-bred
> >>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
> >>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
> >> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
> >> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>
> > England in the 1950's before mass immigration had hardly no crime
> > whatsoever!
>
> Be fair - it had a crime rate about 5% of what it is now.
Do you think its possible to compare the two: severity for severity?
I believe with twice as many guns in 1950 with a smaller population
(and servicemen who knew how to use them) there was half the gun
related crime.
Eunometic
wrote:
> Any society is going to have some form of racial/religious/cultural
> segregation. In England the main one is class.
Look around London. Look around the USA. Whites running away as fast
as they can afford.
>
> I believe people should be allowed to choose who they hang out with or
> breed with. Let love lead the way.
There is a good deal of difference between a buisness or holiday
traveller meeting someone overseas and forming an overseas marriage
and bringin in 600,000 immigrants per year.
>
> So, they'll always be blondes and always be blacks, and the many
> different shades in between.
>
> Freedom will always be a cause worth fighting for. Don't let Nasty
> Nick Griffin take that away. England is many things, good or bad, but
> fascism ain't England.
Nicks not nasty, he's quite affable, reasonable and fair guy. Very
pleasant to all who are fair to him as well.
>
> England is big enough for ALL of us. Extremists however, whether
> Islamic or BNP or anything else don't belong here.
Actually the BNP does belong here. Britain needs an opposition to the
LibLabCon Party.
> Whites, yes,
> Muslims, yes, extremists and terrorists, no.
You can't have muslims without their extremists comming with them.
You can't have jews without their shizophrenic anti-white attitudes
and politics comming out as well.
A surfeit of ideological passion brings problems and pain, and the
reason Britain is being riven with social schisms is that the
demographic ballast is provided by the apolitical tolerance of the
great majority is being destroyed by immigration. The subcultures
that do have a surfeit of desire to dictate to others were small in
number but are getting greater in number. The most problematic of
these subcultures are devout adherents of sharia. As believers in the
primacy of sharia and the divine truth of the Koran, they are deeply
compromised by living in a society built on civil law and secular
customs.
However its not just the muslims.
>
> My sound engineer is fucked up in the head because of racial abuse as
> a kid (Anglo-Jamaican) , which has meant he has had to have a lot of
> time off work, and not paid tax, which could have paid for doctors,
> nurses or cops.-
Sound engineer could just be fucked. Period. His parents didn't
have the abillity to give him resilent attitudes to the teasing that
occurs in any school. Plenty get through it.
I mean Jack Straw blames the class system but then he was abandoned by
his Jewish father, his moms radical politics perhaps added to her
radical willingness as opposed to prudent conservativism to enter
into the unstable union and his 'poverty' came from his parental
seperation. Blame the class structure or racism. Blame Whitey.
William Black
> There is a good deal of difference between a buisness or holiday
> traveller meeting someone overseas and forming an overseas marriage
> and bringin in 600,000 immigrants per year.
As only 70,000 settlement visas, including 'spouse visas' were issued
last year I beg leave to doubt you.
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/statistics/
White Spirit
> Eunometic wrote:
>> There is a good deal of difference between a buisness or holiday
>> traveller meeting someone overseas and forming an overseas marriage
>> and bringin in 600,000 immigrants per year.
> As only 70,000 settlement visas, including 'spouse visas' were issued
> last year I beg leave to doubt you.
> http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/statistics/
How many student visas?
William Black
Why not look it up yourself.
Looking at it, just over 350,000.
Why?
Do you honestly think a large proportion are fraudulent?
Go over to your local university and ask how many foreign students they
have who have paid their huge fees, and how many complete their courses.
Besides, I'd rather have them stay than our current influx of Slovak
pizza delivery boys, Afghan bandits and Polish plumbers.
White Spirit
> White Spirit wrote:
>>> As only 70,000 settlement visas, including 'spouse visas' were
>>> issued last year I beg leave to doubt you.
>>> http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/statistics/
>> How many student visas?
> Why not look it up yourself.
That wasn't the point of my asking.
> Looking at it, just over 350,000.
> Why?
> Do you honestly think a large proportion are fraudulent?
How many then marry British citizens in order to remain? How many
disappear without trace?
> Go over to your local university and ask how many foreign students they
> have who have paid their huge fees, and how many complete their courses.
I would have to submit a FOI request in order to be furnished with that
information.
> Besides, I'd rather have them stay than our current influx of Slovak
> pizza delivery boys, Afghan bandits and Polish plumbers.
I'd rather have them leave when their visa expires and not have the
other aforementioned people at all.
William Black
> William Black wrote:
>> White Spirit wrote:
>
>>>> As only 70,000 settlement visas, including 'spouse visas' were
>>>> issued last year I beg leave to doubt you.
>
>>>> http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/statistics/
>
>>> How many student visas?
> How many then marry British citizens in order to remain? How many
> disappear without trace?
A foreign national may not marry a British Citizen inside the UK without
Home Office permission.
If they do so then to get a visa they must return to their country of
origin to get a visa, such a process takes a considerable time as the
legality of the marriage is almost certain to be questioned...
That you don't know any of this and still have the temerity to question
immigration policy says more about you than about the policy.
You're a BNP member and they're interested in this stuff, why don't you
know?
Can't you work out how to read government web pages?
Or does it suit your political purposes to pretend you don't know?
>> Go over to your local university and ask how many foreign students
>> they have who have paid their huge fees, and how many complete their
>> courses.
>
> I would have to submit a FOI request in order to be furnished with that
> information.
So?
What's your problem?
You're the one pretending there's a problem.
>> Besides, I'd rather have them stay than our current influx of Slovak
>> pizza delivery boys, Afghan bandits and Polish plumbers.
>
> I'd rather have them leave when their visa expires and not have the
> other aforementioned people at all.
How many stay illegally and why can't the authorities catch them?
White Spirit
>> How many then marry British citizens in order to remain? How many
>> disappear without trace?
> A foreign national may not marry a British Citizen inside the UK without
> Home Office permission.
Since when?
> If they do so then to get a visa they must return to their country of
> origin to get a visa, such a process takes a considerable time as the
> legality of the marriage is almost certain to be questioned...
There are ways around that. The Human Rights Act is just one of them.
> That you don't know any of this and still have the temerity to question
> immigration policy says more about you than about the policy.
The policy is not enforceable.
> You're a BNP member and they're interested in this stuff, why don't you
> know?
I know that it is not enforceable.
> Can't you work out how to read government web pages?
Are you silly enough to believe everything is the way ZanuLabour
buffoons say it is?
>>> Go over to your local university and ask how many foreign students
>>> they have who have paid their huge fees, and how many complete their
>>> courses.
>> I would have to submit a FOI request in order to be furnished with
>> that information.
> So?
> What's your problem?
I'm merely pointing out that I can't just request such information from
my local university.
> You're the one pretending there's a problem.
There is a problem.
>>> Besides, I'd rather have them stay than our current influx of Slovak
>>> pizza delivery boys, Afghan bandits and Polish plumbers.
>> I'd rather have them leave when their visa expires and not have the
>> other aforementioned people at all.
> How many stay illegally and why can't the authorities catch them?
We don't know how many stay illegally because we don't know how many
leave when their visa is up. That's one of the reasons why the
authorities can't catch them.
w_su...@yahoo.co.uk
> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>
> No-one is pure-bred
>
Bollocks! Just because you're a true 'race' mongrel with your third
world genetic soilage, why should those who are not have to come
'down' to your level?
Sharing is indeed a good thing but what's in it for Whites when the
the blacks and browns 'never' have anything to share!
w_su...@yahoo.co.uk
> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>
>
>
> > Lou Ravi wrote:
> >> Maria wrote:
> >>>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
> >>>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
> >>>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>
> >>>> No-one is pure-bred
>
> >>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>
> >> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
> >> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>
>
> There are less than 150 'Honour crimes' a year involving violence .
>
> It is hardly a significant figure.
>
> William Black
150 is the caught at it figure.Thousands of asians go missing every
year and chopping up your sister up on primative charges of witchcraft
is sort of significant.
w_su...@yahoo.co.uk
> Lou Ravi wrote:
> > Maria wrote:
> >> Andy wrote:
> >>> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
> >>> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
> >>> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>
> >>> No-one is pure-bred
>
> >> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
> >> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
>
> > Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
> > foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>
> There were certainly fewer gang rapes and honor killings.
>
> --
> Dirk
And fewer murders, muggings, drugs, no-go areas and just general
depravity.
William Black
> William Black wrote:
>
>>> How many then marry British citizens in order to remain? How many
>>> disappear without trace?
>
>> A foreign national may not marry a British Citizen inside the UK
>> without Home Office permission.
>
> Since when?
A couple of years ago BNP boy, why don't you know all this stuff?
It's easy enough to find.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visitingtheuk/gettingmarried/certificateofapproval/
Is your bitch Griffin keeping stuff from you now?
Or do you get ordered to tell lies?
>> If they do so then to get a visa they must return to their country of
>> origin to get a visa, such a process takes a considerable time as the
>> legality of the marriage is almost certain to be questioned...
>
> There are ways around that. The Human Rights Act is just one of them.
Bollocks, read the law, read the rules, get back to me and say 'sorry'.
>> That you don't know any of this and still have the temerity to
>> question immigration policy says more about you than about the policy.
>
> The policy is not enforceable.
But it is enforced.
>> Can't you work out how to read government web pages?
>
> Are you silly enough to believe everything is the way ZanuLabour
> buffoons say it is?
Don't make yourself look a bigger fool than you already are.
>>>> Go over to your local university and ask how many foreign students
>>>> they have who have paid their huge fees, and how many complete their
>>>> courses.
>
>>> I would have to submit a FOI request in order to be furnished with
>>> that information.
>
>> So?
>
>> What's your problem?
>
> I'm merely pointing out that I can't just request such information from
> my local university.
Yes you can.
You're the one making accusations, it's your place to prove them.
End of story.
>> How many stay illegally and why can't the authorities catch them?
>
> We don't know how many stay illegally because we don't know how many
> leave when their visa is up. That's one of the reasons why the
> authorities can't catch them.
I'm afraid catching criminals is a matter for the police.
take it up with them.
From what you're saying there are people involved in this that you're
personally aware of.
Or is it just the usual 'pub talk'.
This thread started with some wing-nut spouting off about 600,000 spouse
visas being issued in a year, it turns out that there are actually less
than 10% of that number issued.
I'm getting sick and tired of racist loony -tunes telling lies and not
getting called on them and of spouting vague insinuations about lax
enforcement with absolutely no proof at all.
A very junior politician employed a student overstayer and we heard
about little else in the press for a week, does that sound to you like
a lax system?
William Black
Take more water with it, you're frothing...
Eunometic
wrote:
> Eunometic wrote:
> > There is a good deal of difference between a buisness or holiday
> > traveller meeting someone overseas and forming an overseas marriage
> > and bringin in 600,000 immigrants per year.
>
> As only 70,000 settlement visas, including 'spouse visas' were issued
> last year I beg leave to doubt you.
>
> http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/statistics/
>
That visa has little to do with total immigration numbers. Dodgy
NuLabour statistics.
So explain who these statistics came about
1 2008 immigration 163,000
2 2007 immigration 237,000
3 The figures will confirm that Britian is on track for over 3 million
immigrants under Labour – even that is not counting illegal
immigrants.
4 Immigration will add 7 million to the population of England in the
next 20 years - that is 7 times the population of Birmingham.
William Black
> On Dec 10, 10:50 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Eunometic wrote:
>>> There is a good deal of difference between a buisness or holiday
>>> traveller meeting someone overseas and forming an overseas marriage
>>> and bringin in 600,000 immigrants per year.
>> As only 70,000 settlement visas, including 'spouse visas' were issued
>> last year I beg leave to doubt you.
>>
>> http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/statistics/
>>
>
> That visa has little to do with total immigration numbers.
That wasn't what you claimed.
Your direct claim was that there were 600,000 spouse visas issued last year.
I showed that the true figure is something less than 10% of that number
You are, at best, misguided.
I assume that the rest of your figures are as well researched, so I
snipped them.
When you give a source that isn't Migration Watch or some other similar
organisation I'll take you more seriously, but until then, get back
under your rock...
White Spirit
> From what you're saying there are people involved in this that you're
> personally aware of.
Yes, that is correct.
HardySpicer
wrote:
> In the interest of fair play and decency, please learn to SHARE!
> England belongs to ALL the English, black, brown, white, catholic,
> protestant, jew , gentile, muslim, athiest etc etc.
>
> No-one is pure-bred
>
In fact *ngland mostly bellows to us Scotch. We own your ass..
Eunometic
wrote:
> Eunometic wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 10:50 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> Eunometic wrote:
> >>> There is a good deal of difference between a buisness or holiday
> >>> traveller meeting someone overseas and forming an overseas marriage
> >>> and bringin in 600,000 immigrants per year.
> >> As only 70,000 settlement visas, including 'spouse visas' were issued
> >> last year I beg leave to doubt you.
>
> >>http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/statistics/
>
> > That visa has little to do with total immigration numbers.
>
> That wasn't what you claimed.
>
> Your direct claim was that there were 600,000 spouse visas issued last year.
I claimed nothing of the sort. Read the post again.
To paraphrase: I said there was a difference between immigration due
to the occaisional marriage between people (of different races or
ethnies) meeting during travels and 600,000 immigrants brought in
deliberatly.
Londonistan is all the evidence you need.
Unless you're one of those 'race doesn't exist proffesors' ie who you
going to believe us professors or your lying eyes.
>
> I showed that the true figure is something less than 10% of that number
No you didn't. You went of with the faeries prooving a straw man.
In 2007, net immigration to the UK was 237,000, a rise of 46,000 on
2006.In 2004 the number of people who became British citizens rose to
a record 140,795—a rise of 12% on the previous year. This number had
risen dramatically since 2000. The overwhelming majority of new
citizens come from Asia (40%) and Africa (32%), the largest three
groups being people from Pakistan, India and Somalia.
Of course many of those who do not become citizens still will live
here permanently and their children will immediatly receive British
citizenship and never show up in settlement visas or or citizenship
ceremonies.
>
> You are, at best, misguided.
>
> I assume that the rest of your figures are as well researched, so I
> snipped them.
>
> When you give a source that isn't Migration Watch or some other similar
> organisation I'll take you more seriously, but until then, get back
> under your rock...
Migration Watch has shown itself to be consistently reliable. Its the
Home Office, who you quote, that has been inaccurate, and consitantly
unreliable.
At present the economic crisis has reduced immigration a little, it
will bounce back unless the policies are made sane.
Eunometic
> Andy wrote:
> > So, they'll always be blondes and always be blacks, and the many
> > different shades in between.
>
>
> > BTW Posh Spice looks exactly like QE2 but loads younger. Possibly both
> > descendents of Queen Victoria. Scary is apparently descended from Liz
> > the first's sister Mary. My missus Cathy, who's also my lyricist used
> > to get snapped by the paperazzi all the time because she looked like
> > Mrs Beckham (and I look like Dave with my hair died and cut short too)
> > - a bizzare relationship, because when Victoria gets very thin, Katie
> > gets very fat.
>
> What exactly are you tripping on, Andy?
>
> > She's had a life threatening and very debilitating
> > medical condition caused by keeping out of the sun to be light skinned
> > (like Michael Jackson , Elvis etc). Caused by years of racist abuse-
> > so when I compare paedos and racists I know what I'm talking about.
>
> You seldom know what you're talking about. You're seldom lucid as it is.
>
> > England is big enough for ALL of us.
>
>
> > Extremists however, whether
> > Islamic or BNP or anything else don't belong here.
>
>
1 Muzzling speach, for instance that alluding to the extremely high
correlation of ethnicticity and crime, through fines and threatened
jail time is extreme. The BNP aren't doing that. Someone else is.
2 Bashing people is extreme. The BNP are against that. The rioters
and bullies are not in the BNP.
3 Blowing people up in Trains is extreme. The BNP aren't doing that.
Someone else is.
4 Having a double standard on 'hate crime' is extreme as in extremely
hyprocritcal.
5 Forcing an anti-immigration party to take immigrants as its members
in order to White Ant it is extreme.
6 Imprisoning people for expressing their opnions is extreme. Its the
current government who has laws to do that, not the BNP. The need for
the laws indicates fear of some opposition to immigration: how very
democratic.
William Black
So grass them up, the Immigration and Nationality Service runs an
anonymous informant service.
William Black
> On Dec 11, 11:28 am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> Eunometic wrote:
>>> On Dec 10, 10:50 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Eunometic wrote:
>>>>> There is a good deal of difference between a buisness or holiday
>>>>> traveller meeting someone overseas and forming an overseas marriage
>>>>> and bringin in 600,000 immigrants per year.
>>>> As only 70,000 settlement visas, including 'spouse visas' were issued
>>>> last year I beg leave to doubt you.
>>>> http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/statistics/
>>> That visa has little to do with total immigration numbers.
>> That wasn't what you claimed.
>>
>> Your direct claim was that there were 600,000 spouse visas issued last year.
>
> I claimed nothing of the sort. Read the post again.
>
> To paraphrase: I said there was a difference between immigration due
> to the occaisional marriage between people (of different races or
> ethnies) meeting during travels and 600,000 immigrants brought in
> deliberatly.
>
I still don't understand where the figure of 600,000 comes from.
White Spirit
> Bollocks! Just because you're a true 'race' mongrel with your third
> world genetic soilage, why should those who are not have to come
> 'down' to your level?
> Sharing is indeed a good thing but what's in it for Whites when the
> the blacks and browns 'never' have anything to share!
Oh, they have plenty to offer. Their different endocrinology results in
sexualised behaviour at a younger age, not to mention less ability to
control their urges. At the same time, it also means that they are more
aggressive. Differences in brain structure and cranial shape mean that
they score on average around fifteen to twenty-five points lower than a
Caucasian person on an IQ test. In addition to this, their culture has
resulted in baby rape, eye-gouging, gang rape, robbery and all manner of
social ills. They are also seven times more likely to suffer from
schizophrenia.
Yes, they have plenty to share and it would be very racist to think
otherwise.
Cynic
<wsp...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
>Oh, they have plenty to offer. Their different endocrinology results in
>sexualised behaviour at a younger age, not to mention less ability to
>control their urges. At the same time, it also means that they are more
>aggressive. Differences in brain structure and cranial shape mean that
>they score on average around fifteen to twenty-five points lower than a
>Caucasian person on an IQ test. In addition to this, their culture has
>resulted in baby rape, eye-gouging, gang rape, robbery and all manner of
>social ills. They are also seven times more likely to suffer from
>schizophrenia.
But do they routinely invade and destroy foreign countries on
trumped-up reasons?
--
Cynic
White Spirit
The only reason they don't is because their societies are not
sufficiently organised and they don't have the technology to do so.
Cynic
<wsp...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
How on Earth do you know that?
--
Cynic
Eunometic
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:16:18 +0000, White Spirit
>
Our elites have had a certain infection growing for a while, a virus
that originated in the middle east.
White Spirit
I know that their societies are not sufficiently organised because they
are too busy killing each other and abducting rival tribe people to
organise themselves. I know that they don't have any technology because
the only technology they have, including writing and the wheel, is what
we gave them.
Cynic
<wsp...@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
Which does not answer the question.
--
Cynic
nick 'proud to be....whatever' griffin
> White Spirit wrote:
> > Lou Ravi wrote:
> >>> Does it also belong to the gang of Eastern Europeans running amok
> >>> across England - 26 violent jeweller robberies so far.
> >> Thank goodness there weren't any jewel robberies before these nasty
> >> foreigners came. There wern't any were there? Were there?
>
> Sorry, I meant to say fewer.
>
> There were certainly a lot fewer!
'kin retard
White Spirit
> Which does not answer the question.
They're invading and colonising our country under the trumped up reason
of white guilt. Does that answer your question?
Cynic
No, because I did not ask whether you were paranoid.
--
Cynic
euno...@yahoo.com.au
wrote:
> Eunometic wrote:
> > On Dec 11, 11:28 am, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> Eunometic wrote:
> >>> On Dec 10, 10:50 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Eunometic wrote:
> >>>>> There is a good deal of difference between a buisness or holiday
> >>>>> traveller meeting someone overseas and forming an overseas marriage
> >>>>> and bringin in 600,000 immigrants per year.
> >>>> As only 70,000 settlement visas, including 'spouse visas' were issued
> >>>> last year I beg leave to doubt you.
> >>>>http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/aboutus/statistics/
> >>> That visa has little to do with total immigration numbers.
> >> That wasn't what you claimed.
>
> >> Your direct claim was that there were 600,000 spouse visas issued last year.
>
> > I claimed nothing of the sort. Read the post again.
>
> > To paraphrase: I said there was a difference between immigration due
> > to the occaisional marriage between people (of different races or
> > ethnies) meeting during travels and 600,000 immigrants brought in
> > deliberatly.
>
> I still don't understand where the figure of 600,000 comes from.
Gross immigration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_Kingdom_since_1922
If your are concerned with ethnic identity issues this is more
critical than net immigration. The fact the "White" English might
emigrated to Australia is not compensated by a Sudnese on this terms.
Some 11% of Poeple residing in Briton are now foreign born. I suggest
that few are the result of a Briton marrying an European.
Some 23% of children born are born to foreign born mothers. I presume
the extrodanarily high muslim fertillity rate seen in France,
Australia etc is mirrored in the UK and is partially responsible for
this.
The 25% birth rate to foreign mothers and the ongoing high immigration
rate will let you know who will run this country in 20 years.
Andy
>
> If your are concerned with ethnic identity issues this is more
> critical than net immigration. The fact the "White" English might
> emigrated to Australia is not compensated by a Sudnese on this terms.
>
> Some 11% of Poeple residing in Briton are now foreign born. I suggest
> that few are the result of a Briton marrying an European.
> Some 23% of children born are born to foreign born mothers. I presume
> the extrodanarily high muslim fertillity rate seen in France,
> Australia etc is mirrored in the UK and is partially responsible for
> this.
>
> The 25% birth rate to foreign mothers and the ongoing high immigration
> rate will let you know who will run this country in 20 years.
The English should, shall and will run England. Not the puritans, not
the whites but the English. Whilst most English are light-skinned,
being a northern country, they are not exclusively so, and their
appearance changes from time to time, because the climate does do, as
does technology.
William Black
Even the government says there are more immigrants than that in the UK.
You're just making it up as you go along.