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Vngelis
Jan 13, 2012, 8:50:39 AM1/13/12
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When stalinists can write this then it shows how far globlists have
gone....
Wet dreams
The call for ‘no borders’ sounds grand, doesn’t it? Gerry Downing can
stick his chest out, having come up with a pious, utopian trump card
on all arguments about manning and immigration (Letters, December 15).
In any argument which involves workers on this island fighting for
their jobs and their communities, and workers from other countries
being bussed in to take those jobs and break those communities, folk
like Gerry will always condemn the British workers, and support the
boss’s ‘right’ to employ who he wants.
‘No borders’ is utterly stupid as a slogan in the conditions which
prevail right across the globe at present, and at least for a good
couple of hundred years after achieving a communist world. ‘No
borders’ cannot be a slogan under capitalism, except during the days
of unhindered growth and expansion, such as we witnessed in the
opening up of the west during the early years of the USA. Of course,
it was someone else’s land, and this ‘right to earn a living’ by
millions of poor migrants was at the expense of the native American,
who must have prayed for ‘borders’ and ‘immigration control’.
Israel has no problem with ‘No borders’ either, at least not if you’re
Jewish and you’re claiming the land of the Palestinians, Jordanians,
Syrians or Egyptians. What’s wrong with that? Jewish settlers have the
right to live anywhere they choose, don’t they?
Capitalist systems and all succeeding socialist systems will be closed
systems to one extent or another. They can only operate based upon
budgets and taxation. Socialist economies operate on plans,
forecasting growth, populations, production. No matter how big ‘the
unit’, its resources will always, until the global achievement of
communism and superabundance of wealth, be limited. You simply cannot
open up to unlimited migration, and share out the social pot, based
upon collective contributions, to those who have not made any. Surely
it is more of a racialist option to force poor migrants to come here
or anywhere else, when the solution is to improve and construct the
economy and change where they actually live? Why should Scots,
Geordies, Irish or whoever have to travel to London for work?
Demanding the right of these workers to work in London misses an
obvious point, doesn’t it?
Work and real productive wealth is limited - it must have an
exhaustion point, no matter how thinly you decide to spread the gruel.
The amount of real wealth will determine the standard of life, and
that will be determined - yes - by how many people are productively
producing.
The slogan has no practical application in Britain or Europe. How
could it possibly work? Or is it not meant to? Is this meant to drive
the system to breaking point, with mass poverty, the collapse of the
welfare state and society? Then presumably the Communist Party of the
EU will take over on behalf of the people, and do what? Construct an
open society with no limits on the demands of its scarce resources?
This completely ignores the different stages of communism.
Maybe Gerry thinks you just make that demand in the belief that
millions and millions would not actually come. But they would have the
right to come. It would be a ‘dog eat dog’, buyers’ market - and a
spiral of poverty, unemployment and loss of any sort of union control
would follow.
I can just see the Communist Party of the European Union sweeping to a
landslide victory across the EC on the slogan, ‘Down with all borders!
Away with the racialist, chauvinist workers of Europe! No union
control on jobs! No seniority!’ I’ve had my criticism of the Morning
Star, Militant and Bob Crow’s No2EU, etc over the years, but, compared
with you lot, at least they are trying to fight in the real world,
addressing real issues in real struggles, not jerking off to some self-
serving, nonsensical wet dreams.
Wullie Hunter
Berwick Upon Tweed
gone....
Wet dreams
The call for ‘no borders’ sounds grand, doesn’t it? Gerry Downing can
stick his chest out, having come up with a pious, utopian trump card
on all arguments about manning and immigration (Letters, December 15).
In any argument which involves workers on this island fighting for
their jobs and their communities, and workers from other countries
being bussed in to take those jobs and break those communities, folk
like Gerry will always condemn the British workers, and support the
boss’s ‘right’ to employ who he wants.
‘No borders’ is utterly stupid as a slogan in the conditions which
prevail right across the globe at present, and at least for a good
couple of hundred years after achieving a communist world. ‘No
borders’ cannot be a slogan under capitalism, except during the days
of unhindered growth and expansion, such as we witnessed in the
opening up of the west during the early years of the USA. Of course,
it was someone else’s land, and this ‘right to earn a living’ by
millions of poor migrants was at the expense of the native American,
who must have prayed for ‘borders’ and ‘immigration control’.
Israel has no problem with ‘No borders’ either, at least not if you’re
Jewish and you’re claiming the land of the Palestinians, Jordanians,
Syrians or Egyptians. What’s wrong with that? Jewish settlers have the
right to live anywhere they choose, don’t they?
Capitalist systems and all succeeding socialist systems will be closed
systems to one extent or another. They can only operate based upon
budgets and taxation. Socialist economies operate on plans,
forecasting growth, populations, production. No matter how big ‘the
unit’, its resources will always, until the global achievement of
communism and superabundance of wealth, be limited. You simply cannot
open up to unlimited migration, and share out the social pot, based
upon collective contributions, to those who have not made any. Surely
it is more of a racialist option to force poor migrants to come here
or anywhere else, when the solution is to improve and construct the
economy and change where they actually live? Why should Scots,
Geordies, Irish or whoever have to travel to London for work?
Demanding the right of these workers to work in London misses an
obvious point, doesn’t it?
Work and real productive wealth is limited - it must have an
exhaustion point, no matter how thinly you decide to spread the gruel.
The amount of real wealth will determine the standard of life, and
that will be determined - yes - by how many people are productively
producing.
The slogan has no practical application in Britain or Europe. How
could it possibly work? Or is it not meant to? Is this meant to drive
the system to breaking point, with mass poverty, the collapse of the
welfare state and society? Then presumably the Communist Party of the
EU will take over on behalf of the people, and do what? Construct an
open society with no limits on the demands of its scarce resources?
This completely ignores the different stages of communism.
Maybe Gerry thinks you just make that demand in the belief that
millions and millions would not actually come. But they would have the
right to come. It would be a ‘dog eat dog’, buyers’ market - and a
spiral of poverty, unemployment and loss of any sort of union control
would follow.
I can just see the Communist Party of the European Union sweeping to a
landslide victory across the EC on the slogan, ‘Down with all borders!
Away with the racialist, chauvinist workers of Europe! No union
control on jobs! No seniority!’ I’ve had my criticism of the Morning
Star, Militant and Bob Crow’s No2EU, etc over the years, but, compared
with you lot, at least they are trying to fight in the real world,
addressing real issues in real struggles, not jerking off to some self-
serving, nonsensical wet dreams.
Wullie Hunter
Berwick Upon Tweed
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dusty
Jan 14, 2012, 1:26:26 AM1/14/12
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On Jan 14, 12:50 am, Vngelis <meberr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When stalinists can write this then it shows how far globlists have
> gone....
>
> Wet dreams
>
> The call for ‘no borders’ sounds grand, doesn’t it? Gerry Downing can
> stick his chest out, having come up with a pious, utopian trump card
> on all arguments about manning and immigration (Letters, December 15).
> In any argument which involves workers on this island fighting for
> their jobs and their communities, and workers from other countries
> being bussed in to take those jobs and break those communities, folk
> like Gerry will always condemn the British workers, and support the
> boss’s ‘right’ to employ who he wants.
> When stalinists can write this then it shows how far globlists have
> gone....
>
> Wet dreams
>
> The call for ‘no borders’ sounds grand, doesn’t it? Gerry Downing can
> stick his chest out, having come up with a pious, utopian trump card
> on all arguments about manning and immigration (Letters, December 15).
> In any argument which involves workers on this island fighting for
> their jobs and their communities, and workers from other countries
> being bussed in to take those jobs and break those communities, folk
> like Gerry will always condemn the British workers, and support the
> boss’s ‘right’ to employ who he wants.
> I’ve had my criticism of the Morning
> Star, Militant and Bob Crow’s No2EU, etc over the years, but, compared
> with you lot, at least they are trying to fight in the real world,
> addressing real issues in real struggles, not jerking off to some self-
> serving, nonsensical wet dreams.
> Wullie Hunter
> Berwick Upon Tweed
A communist worker has nailed it!
> Star, Militant and Bob Crow’s No2EU, etc over the years, but, compared
> with you lot, at least they are trying to fight in the real world,
> addressing real issues in real struggles, not jerking off to some self-
> serving, nonsensical wet dreams.
> Wullie Hunter
> Berwick Upon Tweed
"I can just see the Communist Party of the European Union sweeping to
a landslide victory across the EC on the slogan, ‘Down with all
borders! Away with the racialist, chauvinist workers of Europe! No
union control on jobs! No seniority!"
He also is well aware of the foul hypocrisy of the Tribe East and West
- who for low, short sighted pecuniary reasons (religion doesn't enter
into it!) support their own leaders - the Bankers - on Open Borders
immigration and all else. This is the State-of-the-Art class
consciousness that Globalisation has driven class conscious workers to
today (are you listening srd?):
"Israel has no problem with ‘No borders’ either, at least not if
you’re
Jewish and you’re claiming the land of the Palestinians, Jordanians,
Syrians or Egyptians. What’s wrong with that? Jewish settlers have the
right to live anywhere they choose, don’t they?"
And: "Surely it is more of a racialist option to force poor migrants
to come here or anywhere else, when the solution is to improve and
construct the economy and change where they actually live?"
............
construct the economy and change where they actually live?"
The stinking mongrel Bankers never considered THAT practical
internationalist option did they? Instead they fleeced the Third World
and let the better off ones teem into the West and
feigned...Internationalism, with the State PC-enforced backing of the
Liberal SCUM of the FAR LEFT and of the Zionist controlled media and
academia. One day they will be tried by Peoples Courts and hanged!
Vngelis
Jan 18, 2012, 6:26:52 AM1/18/12
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years.
Its only the far left that adopted them whilst turning their backs on
their own
working class. Just like they corporations they represent every last
arrival is also
the best, a bit like products, whatever comes out last is the best...
even when it
could be made in China and be worse...
vngelis
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