Candace Owens
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I flew to Bucharest, Romania, to interview Andrew Tate last week. There
have been over 3 million views of our three-hour interview. That’s
incredible, and the majority of responses have been positive, with people
saying they really needed to hear this conversation. Some people, however,
asked why I interviewed Andrew Tate, who is not a conservative nor a
Christian. So why Tate?
That has to be the most ridiculous question ever asked. I don’t limit my
interactions to only conservatives or only Christians. The job of
conservative and Christian podcasters is not to host only people who agree
with them. People who sit across from these interviewers obviously will not
be the exact same person. If they were, no one would have a podcast. I’ve
had plenty of people on my show with whom I have fundamental disagreements.
I had the founder of Black Lives Matter New York join me, and we had _many_
disagreements. The goal is — and should be — to discuss both different and
similar ideas, to foster a conversation, especially with someone as
interesting as Andrew Tate.
Far be it from me to suggest that conservatives in America have given a
platform to Tate. He’s done that all on his own. And that’s fascinating.
Tens of millions of young men around the world listen to Tate every single
day. In fact, so many people listen to him that within 24 hours, we broke a
viewer record: More than one million people watched in just a 24-hour span
and the now-3 million-view number continues to climb. So, he’s a newsworthy
person, and his platform is going to exist with or without conservatives in
America speaking with him.
When I started my journey into conservatism, I had to begin _somewhere_ --
and it wasn’t with the people I listen to today. At that time, all I knew
was that something was wrong with leftist principles, that perhaps leftist
principles were holding black Americans back. That was my focus then,
before I understood the problem was much bigger. Now I have some
fundamental differences with the people I started out listening to, but the
people I listen to today would have never brought me to the conservative
side when I was first becoming curious.
Becoming a conservative was a process for me, so I understand that it is
often a process for others. I do not come from a background of
conservatism. My grandfather was a steadfast Christian, and he planted
those seeds in me, which I think is why I have bloomed into the person I am
today. But, I took quite a liberal route to conservatism — so much so, that
I speak to people about the ills of liberalism from the position of someone
who has lived that way. When I come from that perspective, I am better able
to connect with them and it’s easier for them to identify with me. The
reason I am a conservative today is definitely not because I was listening
to squeaky clean conservatives who had a podcast. Those types of shows
didn’t resonate with me — because that’s just not how that works. That is
not how spiritual maturation works. It is a process.
I think everybody vibrates at different frequencies throughout the seasons
of their life. When I was younger, I listened to hip hop music with
terrible language that had really dark themes. At that time of my life, I
could relate to it. As I mentioned in my interview with Tate, I
specifically connected with Jay-Z’s music because he came from nothing and
went on to make something of himself. It was a frequency, if you will, that
I could respond and relate to. I could think, “Ok, I can actually make
something of myself.” People who do not come from privileged backgrounds
like to have someone to look up to because it makes that process of “making
something of yourself” more attainable. That’s the truth. As I have
matured, I’ve stopped listening to that music. But that doesn’t mean I
can’t relate to the _people_ who still listen to that music. I don’t leave
them behind while saying, “Oh well, I don’t understand how you listen to
this!” Because I do very much understand how they listen to it. I
understand for a lot of people, that can sound like the only hope they have
in their life. Again, spiritual development is a process.
I have been given a platform that allows me to initiate that same process
of maturation with other people. I can sound quite puritanical when I talk
to young women, but I don’t speak to them with snobbery. I don’t look down
my nose and say, “How could you follow this person? How could you listen to
that person?” Our job should not be to judge the tens of millions of young
men who listen to Tate. First, that won’t work. And second, you can’t hate
someone out of existence. Our job is, instead, to understand _why_. The
only way to do that is to ask meaningful questions. What is it these men
are responding to? Why are people following him?
Because I acted as a journalist, asking questions I was curious about, I
was able to understand. Over the last ten or so years, we have been
existing under a rabid matriarchy where women think that we should be the
ones to define what is and is not masculine and what a man should be, and
if we shriek loud enough about it, men will tuck their tail between their
legs and yield to our every order; that will allow our society to function.
In actuality, it’s far from that. This toxic matriarchy we are existing in
is actually a bit like hell on earth right now.
Men have been told they are nothing. Men are routinely having this
narrative reinforced to them by mainstream media and culture. Women rap
about how terrible men are, make a mockery of relationships, talk about
feminism — a toxic brand of feminism — and make men feel terrible. Then
Tate came along, stood up for men, and said men _can_ work out, they _can_
start a business, they _can_ be strong. He told men they don’t need to
listen to those kinds of messages from those kinds of women. And the men
responded.
To those who think they can tell me who I can sit down with and speak to, I
laugh. I am the same woman who said I would like to sit down with Vladimir
Putin. I stand by that statement. I would still like to sit down with him
because I’m curious and I don’t accept mainstream media. It would do us all
good to remember the media gives us the narrative they want us to believe.
I would sit down with a lot of people if they were alive today, including
the horrible and the backwards. I’m a curious person, and I will remain
curious.
I’m proud of the sit down I had with Andrew Tate. And there will be more to
come.