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BurfordTJustice

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May 22, 2013, 6:14:52 AM5/22/13
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"G. Morgan" <gra...@grahammorgan.name> wrote in message
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First Amendment at stake.. .

This is fucked up, the government is over-reaching yet again. They are
using a terrible incident/crime to squelch our freedoms yet again.

*Always* remember what Franklin said: "They who can give up essential
liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor
safety."

Franklin was right back then and his words are even more meaningful
today. If after reading the story below and you still have your lunch in
your stomach, do what you can to help this kid.

___________________________________________
20 Years in Prison for a Facebook Post?

A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held without bail
for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20 years in prison for posting
rap lyrics on the Internet.


http://cms.fightf

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a Racist.

FromTheRafters

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May 22, 2013, 7:59:15 AM5/22/13
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G. Morgan formulated the question :
> First Amendment at stake.. .
>
> This is fucked up, the government is over-reaching yet again. They are
> using a terrible incident/crime to squelch our freedoms yet again.
>
> *Always* remember what Franklin said: "They who can give up essential
> liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor
> safety."
>
> Franklin was right back then and his words are even more meaningful
> today. If after reading the story below and you still have your lunch in
> your stomach, do what you can to help this kid.
>
> ___________________________________________
> 20 Years in Prison for a Facebook Post?
>
> A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held without bail
> for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20 years in prison for posting
> rap lyrics on the Internet.
>
>
> http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/

I won't be going there. If he is indeed tried and sentenced, then we
have something to complain about.


§ñühwö£f

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May 22, 2013, 10:55:20 AM5/22/13
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So you're ok with indefinite detention and *no* trial? Go fuck yourself
with a rusty fork.

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FromTheRafters

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May 22, 2013, 12:09:25 PM5/22/13
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ᅵᅵᅵhwᅵᅵf formulated the question :
> FromTheRafters wrote:
>> G. Morgan formulated the question :
>>> First Amendment at stake.. .
>>>
>>> This is fucked up, the government is over-reaching yet again. They are
>>> using a terrible incident/crime to squelch our freedoms yet again.
>>> *Always* remember what Franklin said: "They who can give up essential
>>> liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor
>>> safety."
>>>
>>> Franklin was right back then and his words are even more meaningful
>>> today. If after reading the story below and you still have your lunch in
>>> your stomach, do what you can to help this kid.
>>> ___________________________________________
>>> 20 Years in Prison for a Facebook Post?
>>>
>>> A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held without bail
>>> for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20 years in prison for posting
>>> rap lyrics on the Internet.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/
>>
>> I won't be going there. If he is indeed tried and sentenced, then we have
>> something to complain about.
>>
>>
> So you're ok with indefinite detention and *no* trial? Go fuck yourself with
> a rusty fork.

Indefinite?
No trial?
No rusty fork.

http://www.eagletribune.com/latestnews/x701042777/Debate-ensues-after-Methuen-students-arrest


Eagle

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May 22, 2013, 12:19:36 PM5/22/13
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G. Morgan laid this down on his screen :
> First Amendment at stake.. .

> This is fucked up, the government is over-reaching yet again. They are
> using a terrible incident/crime to squelch our freedoms yet again.

> *Always* remember what Franklin said: "They who can give up essential
> liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor
> safety."

> Franklin was right back then and his words are even more meaningful
> today. If after reading the story below and you still have your lunch in
> your stomach, do what you can to help this kid.

> ___________________________________________
> 20 Years in Prison for a Facebook Post?

> A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held without bail
> for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20 years in prison for posting
> rap lyrics on the Internet.


> http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/

This reminds me of what someone wrote here and had the cops turned
loose on him for what he wrote. It was a fucked up move on the offended
person then, and it still is.

--
Eagle
Why were the Indians here first? They had reservations.


Eagle

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May 22, 2013, 12:22:04 PM5/22/13
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FromTheRafters wrote this on 5/22/2013 :
> §ñühwö£f formulated the question :
snuh has his head op his tukus. All those liberal socialist dimocrits
make such dimmy statements.

Aardvark

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May 22, 2013, 12:31:56 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 09:19:36 -0700, Eagle wrote:

> This reminds me of what someone wrote here and had the cops turned loose
> on him for what he wrote. It was a fucked up move on the offended person
> then, and it still is.

As the offended person in that instance, I must certainly agree with you
on that point.



--
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like anyone in existence. If I am not better, at least I am different."
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778)

Eagle

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May 22, 2013, 12:47:04 PM5/22/13
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Eagle explained on 5/22/2013 :
Correction...It was a fucked up move BY the offended person, and still is.

Aardvark

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May 22, 2013, 12:51:49 PM5/22/13
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Reporting a crime is a 'fucked-up move'? WTF????? Didn't you recently
report what you considered might be a criminal act yourself? How is it
'fucked-up' when I do it, but *not* 'fucked-up' when you do essentially
the same thing?

And what's with the HTML shit?

> --
> Eagle Why were the Indians here first? They had reservations.
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META content="text/html; charset=windows-1252" http-equiv=Content-Type>
> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 9.00.8112.16484"></HEAD>
> <BODY>
> <DIV>Eagle explained on 5/22/2013 :<BR>&gt; G. Morgan laid this down on
> his screen :<BR>&gt;&gt; First Amendment at stake.. .</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&gt;&gt; This is fucked up, the government is over-reaching yet
> again.&nbsp; They are<BR>&gt;&gt; using a terrible incident/crime to
> squelch our freedoms yet again.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&gt;&gt; *Always* remember what Franklin said: "They who can give
> up essential<BR>&gt;&gt; liberty to obtain a little temporary safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor<BR>&gt;&gt; safety."</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&gt;&gt; Franklin was right back then and his words are even more
> meaningful<BR>&gt;&gt; today.&nbsp; If after reading the story below and
> you still have your lunch in<BR>&gt;&gt; your stomach, do what you can
> to help this kid.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&gt;&gt; ___________________________________________<BR>&gt;&gt; 20
> Years in Prison for a Facebook Post?</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&gt;&gt; A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held
> without bail<BR>&gt;&gt; for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20
> years in prison for posting<BR>&gt;&gt; rap lyrics on the
> Internet.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><BR>&gt;&gt; <A
> href="http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/">http://
cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/</A></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>&gt; This reminds me of what someone wrote here and had the cops
> turned loose on <BR>&gt; him for what he wrote. It was a fucked up move
> on the offended person then, <BR>&gt; and it still is.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>Correction...It was a fucked up move <STRONG>BY</STRONG> the
> offended person, and still is. </DIV><PRE id="signature"><CR>

BurfordTJustice

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May 22, 2013, 1:46:11 PM5/22/13
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"Aardvark" <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in message
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What Crime? Was he detained? Arrested? Charged? Gone to Trial?
No, then NO CRIME! Damn you are stupid.

FromTheRafters

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May 22, 2013, 2:13:08 PM5/22/13
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Eagle was thinking very hard :
Evidently, *this* is the law being exercised.

http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartIV/TitleI/Chapter269/Section14

If we were sending him to Gitmo for waterboarding I might object (just
a little).


FromTheRafters

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May 22, 2013, 2:37:03 PM5/22/13
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Eagle laid this down on his screen :

>> http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/
>
> This reminds me of what someone wrote here and had the cops turned loose on
> him for what he wrote.

I agree, but it really makes no difference here that 30+ of his peers
either felt threatened or were vindictive because of him being an
irritant - in light of then current events - it was correct for them to
bring this to the attention of the school administrators. Then, in
turn, it was 'best' for the school officials to notify the city/state
authorities instead of risking the lives of *whomever* he intended to
attack - and their looking stupid for *not* reporting something in
hindsight.

Again, at that point it is up to the city or state authorities to
determine whether or not a *reasonable* person (we know teenagers are
not reasonable) would be affected in the same way as these irrational
teenagers reported they were. Then, they apply the rule of law to
whatever offense best describes the suspected crime.

> It was a fucked up move on the offended person then,
> and it still is.

No, it was a logical reaction to a posted threat in *both* cases.


Eagle

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May 22, 2013, 3:11:22 PM5/22/13
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on 5/22/2013, FromTheRafters supposed :
To this I agree, FTR. Why it keeps popping up is very irritating.

Aardvark

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May 22, 2013, 3:13:37 PM5/22/13
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Change your mind, much? First you tell me that my reaction to the threat
was 'fucked-up', and in the next post you're agreeing with FTR that what
I did was a logical reaction to a posted threat. I wish you'd make your
mind up.

> Why it keeps popping up is very irritating.

Indeed.

Jax

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May 22, 2013, 4:10:31 PM5/22/13
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G. Morgan <gra...@grahammorgan.name> wrote in
news:eoiop8p2g9nl84h4v...@Osama-is-dead.net:

> First Amendment at stake.. .
>
> This is fucked up, the government is over-reaching yet again. They are
> using a terrible incident/crime to squelch our freedoms yet again.
>
> *Always* remember what Franklin said: "They who can give up essential
> liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor
> safety."
>
> Franklin was right back then and his words are even more meaningful
> today. If after reading the story below and you still have your lunch in
> your stomach, do what you can to help this kid.
>
> ___________________________________________
> 20 Years in Prison for a Facebook Post?
>
> A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held without bail
> for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20 years in prison for posting
> rap lyrics on the Internet.
>
>
> http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/

Graham maybe Dustin better watch out. He boasts too much about his
association with music pirates! :)

--
Jax

Jax

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May 22, 2013, 4:13:04 PM5/22/13
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"BurfordTJustice" <bur...@hubdub.mo> wrote in
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>
> "Aardvark" <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in message
> news:knit35$m8g$3...@dont-email.me... On Wed, 22 May 2013 09:47:04 -0700,
>>
>> Reporting a crime is a 'fucked-up move'? WTF????? Didn't you recently
>> report what you considered might be a criminal act yourself? How is it
>> 'fucked-up' when I do it, but *not* 'fucked-up' when you do essentially
>> the same thing?
>
> --
> What Crime? Was he detained? Arrested? Charged? Gone to Trial? No, then
> NO CRIME! Damn you are stupid.

Burford you're right..... A crime was alleged but upon investigation it was
found that nothing wrong had occurred and no action was taken.

End of story! :)

--
Jax

~BD~

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May 22, 2013, 4:26:56 PM5/22/13
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BurfordTJustice wrote:
> Reporting a crime is a 'fucked-up move'? WTF????? Didn't you recently
> report what you considered might be a criminal act yourself? How is it
> 'fucked-up' when I do it, but*not* 'fucked-up' when you do essentially
> the same thing?
>
> -- What Crime? Was he detained? Arrested? Charged? Gone to Trial? No,
> then NO CRIME! Damn you are stupid.

:-)

Eagle

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May 22, 2013, 4:29:15 PM5/22/13
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~BD~ laid this down on his screen :
For once, BTJ is spot on.
Dave, the ninny is still being a prick about it, so is his paramour.

FromTheRafters

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May 22, 2013, 4:33:27 PM5/22/13
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Who brought it up?


Eagle

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May 22, 2013, 4:35:09 PM5/22/13
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FromTheRafters expects you to read this :
I don't know this time. It was a few days back.

~BD~

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May 22, 2013, 4:50:57 PM5/22/13
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Eagle wrote:
> ~BD~ laid this down on his screen :
>> BurfordTJustice wrote:
>>> Reporting a crime is a 'fucked-up move'? WTF????? Didn't you recently
>>> report what you considered might be a criminal act yourself? How is it
>>> 'fucked-up' when I do it, but*not* 'fucked-up' when you do essentially
>>> the same thing?
>>>
>>> -- What Crime? Was he detained? Arrested? Charged? Gone to Trial? No,
>>> then NO CRIME! Damn you are stupid.
>
>> :-)
>
> For once, BTJ is spot on.
> Dave, the ninny is still being a prick about it, so is his paramour.

I do believe he was trying to teach me a lesson, Eagle!

I don't think things worked out quite as he had intended.

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Eagle

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May 22, 2013, 5:16:37 PM5/22/13
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~BD~ explained on 5/22/2013 :
A lesson in what? How to have a temper tantrum?

> I don't think things worked out quite as he had intended.

Stone cold, Dave.

FromTheRafters

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May 22, 2013, 5:23:21 PM5/22/13
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Jax submitted this idea :
> "BurfordTJustice" <bur...@hubdub.mo> wrote in
> news:knj01m$juo$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>> "Aardvark" <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in message
>> news:knit35$m8g$3...@dont-email.me... On Wed, 22 May 2013 09:47:04 -0700,
>>>
>>> Reporting a crime is a 'fucked-up move'? WTF????? Didn't you recently
>>> report what you considered might be a criminal act yourself? How is it
>>> 'fucked-up' when I do it, but *not* 'fucked-up' when you do essentially
>>> the same thing?
>>
>> --
>> What Crime? Was he detained? Arrested? Charged? Gone to Trial? No, then
>> NO CRIME! Damn you are stupid.
>
> Burford you're right.....

No he isn't.

> A crime was alleged but upon investigation it was
> found that nothing wrong had occurred and no action was taken.

I believe 'alleged crime' or 'possible crime' or something a little
tamer than "crime" could be used to better describe the idea, but to
better get a message across Aardvark's use of "crime" was effective.

> End of story! :)

This story seems to never end. Burford is wrong because his definition
suggests something is not a crime is one doesn't get caught doing it.
Somehow, that doesn't surprise me because I believe he has stolen
pictures on his blog.


FromTheRafters

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(supersedes <knjcom$2o7$1...@dont-email.me>)

Jax submitted this idea :
> "BurfordTJustice" <bur...@hubdub.mo> wrote in
> news:knj01m$juo$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>> "Aardvark" <aard...@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote in message
>> news:knit35$m8g$3...@dont-email.me... On Wed, 22 May 2013 09:47:04 -0700,
>>>
>>> Reporting a crime is a 'fucked-up move'? WTF????? Didn't you recently
>>> report what you considered might be a criminal act yourself? How is it
>>> 'fucked-up' when I do it, but *not* 'fucked-up' when you do essentially
>>> the same thing?
>>
>> -- What Crime? Was he detained? Arrested? Charged? Gone to Trial? No, then
>> NO CRIME! Damn you are stupid.
>
> Burford you're right.....

No he isn't.

> A crime was alleged but upon investigation it was found that nothing wrong
> had occurred and no action was taken.

I believe 'alleged crime' or 'possible crime' or something a little
tamer than "crime" could be used to better describe the idea, but to
better get a message across Aardvark's use of "crime" was effective.

> End of story! :)

This story seems to never end. Burford is wrong because his definition
suggests something is not a crime if one doesn't get caught doing it.

Eagle

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on 5/22/2013, FromTheRafters supposed :
Where's his blog?

Aardvark

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May 22, 2013, 5:57:18 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:09:25 -0400, FromTheRafters wrote:

> §ñühwö£f formulated the question :
"In September, another student severely beat D’Ambrosio and put him in
the hospital. Police Chief Joseph Solomon said the altercation started
with a Facebook post by D’Ambrosio about the student’s girlfriend".

I wonder if D'Ambrosio had called her a prostitute or similar. If so, I
believe that he deserved what he got.

SeaNymph

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On 5/22/2013 2:13 PM, Aardvark wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:22 -0700, Eagle wrote:
>
>> on 5/22/2013, FromTheRafters supposed :
>>> Eagle laid this down on his screen :
>>

>>
>>>> It was a fucked up move on the offended person then, and it still is.
>>
>>> No, it was a logical reaction to a posted threat in *both* cases.
>>
>> To this I agree, FTR.
>
> Change your mind, much? First you tell me that my reaction to the threat
> was 'fucked-up', and in the next post you're agreeing with FTR that what
> I did was a logical reaction to a posted threat. I wish you'd make your
> mind up.
>
>> Why it keeps popping up is very irritating.
>
> Indeed.
>
>
>
Ah...but the reason is simple, it's called the troll.

FromTheRafters

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May 22, 2013, 6:11:05 PM5/22/13
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Aardvark used his keyboard to write :
This is almost directly parallel to the idea that even with free speech
you can't shout fire in a movie theater. There is no "free speech"
issue involved. I don't think he should be treated too harshly, but it
is indeed a crime worthy of investigating *and* in the context of
whatever "patriot act" derived laws are in effect.

Besides, he wears a hoodie.


Aardvark

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May 22, 2013, 6:18:00 PM5/22/13
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You've noticed? :-)
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SeaNymph

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May 22, 2013, 6:27:19 PM5/22/13
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On 5/22/2013 5:18 PM, Aardvark wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 17:02:18 -0500, SeaNymph wrote:
>
>> On 5/22/2013 2:13 PM, Aardvark wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:22 -0700, Eagle wrote:
>>>
>>>> on 5/22/2013, FromTheRafters supposed :
>>>>> Eagle laid this down on his screen :
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> It was a fucked up move on the offended person then, and it still
>>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>>> No, it was a logical reaction to a posted threat in *both* cases.
>>>>
>>>> To this I agree, FTR.
>>>
>>> Change your mind, much? First you tell me that my reaction to the
>>> threat was 'fucked-up', and in the next post you're agreeing with FTR
>>> that what I did was a logical reaction to a posted threat. I wish you'd
>>> make your mind up.
>>>
>>>> Why it keeps popping up is very irritating.
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Ah...but the reason is simple, it's called the troll.
>
> You've noticed? :-)
>
>
>
Yep, of course the troll is always looking for a way to spew
misdirection and lies.

Aardvark

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May 22, 2013, 6:25:52 PM5/22/13
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That's the way it strikes me.

> There is no "free speech" issue
> involved.

His defence lawyer has to earn his money somehow, doesn't he?

> I don't think he should be treated too harshly,

I kind of agree- harshly enough treated to cause others to think before
touching fingertips to keyboard.

> but it is
> indeed a crime worthy of investigating

Goes without saying, IMO. There's no way of knowing how mentally
unbalanced and well-armed some nut-case on your monitor screen really is.

> *and* in the context of whatever
> "patriot act" derived laws are in effect.
>

I'm not so sure about that, but in terms of 'pour encourager les autres'
I think such laws might very well be referred to at some stage.

> Besides, he wears a hoodie.

So do I. :-)

Aardvark

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On Wed, 22 May 2013 17:23:55 -0500, RonNNN wrote:

> In article <knj9r4$hdp$1...@dont-email.me>, err...@nomail.afraid.org
> says...
> From what I see it was... GASP... Eagle!
>

I was wondering when someone would come along and point that out, Ron. :-)

> ***********************************************************************
>
> "This reminds me of what someone wrote here and had the cops turned
> loose on him for what he wrote. It was a fucked up move on the offended
> person then, and it still is.
>
> --
> Eagle"
> ************************************************************************

BurfordTJustice

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"FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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Somehow, that doesn't surprise me because I believe he has stolen
pictures on his blog.

--
What blog?

prepare to be wrong yet again.

Eagle

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May 22, 2013, 7:21:43 PM5/22/13
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Aardvark expects you to read this :
Way before this, but it doesn't surprise me that ron would be all over
this. If it's dirt, ron crawls in it.
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Aardvark

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May 22, 2013, 7:38:45 PM5/22/13
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And of course you come along with the expected response. What is this
mental blockage you have about accepting responsibility for what you
freely choose to do, preferring always to pass the buck onto someone,
anyone else?
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Jenn

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On 5/22/2013 6:59 PM, G. Morgan wrote:
> Wow, what a bunch a A.D.D. readers we have here. FTR was the only one to
> stay on point.
>
> There is a 20 y/o kid in jail being held without bond because he wrote
> some rap lyrics, and it wasn't even "threatening". This is typical
> overreaction knee-jerk shit that when added up chisels away at our
> liberties little by little.
>
> People like BD will say "better safe than sorry", but that's not how it
> works. All people are presumed innocent until *proven* beyond any
> reasonable doubt they are guilty. Maybe the lyrics are offensive and
> insensitive to some, but that isn't a crime. And if you look at what was
> published in the news compared to the *whole* line that is causing
> controversy, it's clear it was taken out of context.
>
> This kid didn't have anything to do with the bombings, he didn't call for
> a rise to arms, he didn't incite a riot, nothing. His 1st and 4th
> Amendment rights were ignored. Does this not piss anyone off?
>
> When did it become okay for any government officials to override the law
> of the land? Seriously, when did "We the People" decide the Constitution
> no longer applies? I don't remember any vote on that. Give those in
> power an inch, they will take a mile. Keep ignoring that fact and we'll
> soon find ourselves like everyday Germans circa 1930. I don't want us to
> go the next step and see us like everyday Germans in 1936.
>
> It's time for the sheeple to pull their heads out of their asses and take
> a look around at what's happening. Just because it may have not affected
> *you* in a personal way is no excuse to turn the other cheek and act like
> nothing is happening.
>

I listened to the rap song and couldn't understand most of it anyway! I
signed up to protest his incarceration!

--
Jenn

FromTheRafters

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RonNNN wrote on 5/22/2013 :
> In article <knj9r4$hdp$1...@dont-email.me>, err...@nomail.afraid.org
> says...
>>
> From what I see it was... GASP... Eagle!

He's getting on his own nerves.


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Eagle

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May 22, 2013, 8:53:56 PM5/22/13
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Aardvark has brought this to us :
And there goes the inevitable Aardvark spin to twist whatever the
subject is to his POV.

It doesn't matter when or who now does it. This thread wasn't about
your false arrest thread, it's about the cops jumping on and arrest of
an innocent person, and about the violation of constitutional rights.
Perhaps this thread could get back on track? [Don't bother, Aardvark,
this isn't about british politics, so just read and possibly learn
something for a change.]

FromTheRafters

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May 22, 2013, 9:59:02 PM5/22/13
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G. Morgan laid this down on his screen :
> FromTheRafters wrote:
>
>>> A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held without bail
>>> for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20 years in prison for posting
>>> rap lyrics on the Internet.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/
>>
>> I won't be going there. If he is indeed tried and sentenced, then we
>> have something to complain about.
>
> Being detained without bail isn't bad enough?
>
You act as if was something new, and no I don't have a problem with it.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/preventive+detention


Jax

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May 23, 2013, 10:09:20 AM5/23/13
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G. Morgan <gra...@grahammorgan.name> wrote in
news:aulqp85mgtm3542ml...@Osama-is-dead.net:

> Jax wrote:
>
>>G. Morgan <gra...@grahammorgan.name> wrote in
>>news:eoiop8p2g9nl84h4v...@Osama-is-dead.net:
>>
>>> First Amendment at stake.. .
>>>
>>> This is fucked up, the government is over-reaching yet again. They
>>> are using a terrible incident/crime to squelch our freedoms yet again.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Always* remember what Franklin said: "They who can give up essential
>>> liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty
>>> nor safety."
>>>
>>> Franklin was right back then and his words are even more meaningful
>>> today. If after reading the story below and you still have your lunch
>>> in your stomach, do what you can to help this kid.
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________ 20 Years in Prison for a
>>> Facebook Post?
>>>
>>> A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held without bail
>>> for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20 years in prison for
>>> posting rap lyrics on the Internet.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/
>>
Thank you Graham! :)

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Jax

Aardvark

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May 23, 2013, 12:05:09 PM5/23/13
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Polly want a cracker?

It's not so much a POV as knowledge based on knowledge of past events. No
spin, no twist. A simple extrapolation from known facts.

> It doesn't matter when or who now does it.

So let me get this straight- now that someone has pointed out that it was
*you* who brought the subject up, it no longer matters, although it *did*
matter when you originally asked the question, forgetting that it *was*
you who brought it up?

OK. Gotcha.

> This thread wasn't about your
> false arrest thread,

I have no idea what thread you're referring to. I can't ever recall
discussing false arrest in this or any other newsgroup. Perhap you'd be
kind enough to enlighten me.

> it's about the cops jumping on and arrest of an
> innocent person,

Innocent person, yes. Innocent person who may have committed a crime,
also yes.

> and about the violation of constitutional rights.
> Perhaps this thread could get back on track? [Don't bother, Aardvark,
> this isn't about british politics, so just read and possibly learn
> something for a change.]

LOL. I have nothing to learn from you, thanks.

Aardvark

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May 23, 2013, 12:06:06 PM5/23/13
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LOL. It must be getting bad, eh, when that happens?

Eagle

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May 23, 2013, 12:40:08 PM5/23/13
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Aardvark laid this down on his screen :
> I have nothing to learn from you, thanks.

You have much to learn, but no will to do so. When you lose the rocks
in your head, you might be able to learn something of value.
You're an asshole, but contrary to what others think of you, you have a
small measure of humanity, and with that, there is hope for you yet.

Jax

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May 23, 2013, 5:41:33 PM5/23/13
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"Eagle" <deag...@geemail.com> wrote in news:knlghl$t10$1...@dont-email.me:

> Aardvark laid this down on his screen :
>> I have nothing to learn from you, thanks.
>
> You have much to learn, but no will to do so. When you lose the rocks
> in your head, you might be able to learn something of value.
> You're an asshole, but contrary to what others think of you, you have a
> small measure of humanity, and with that, there is hope for you yet.

Eagle I suspect somewhere deep inside Aardvark is a nice person who has been
acting in a loud brash way in a attempt to defend himself from perceived
humiliation. :)

--
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OldGringo38

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May 23, 2013, 6:26:40 PM5/23/13
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Maybe, just maybe if you were to change your tactics just a bit, you
might see the same side of him that I see. You know, Just Saying.

--
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Just west of nowhere

Aardvark

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May 23, 2013, 6:35:51 PM5/23/13
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The troll had that opportunity when it first arrived here, George.
Unfortunately, it chose not to take it. It preferred to troll me, obsess
about me and stalk me. I know enough about its character (or *lack* of
character, I should have said) now that even if it changed its ways right
this minute, the best it could ever expect is that I never respond to it
again.

> You know, Just Saying.

Well said, George. :-)

Jax

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May 23, 2013, 6:48:52 PM5/23/13
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OldGringo38 <oldgr...@gmail.com> wrote in news:knm4r9$mfh$1...@dont-email.me:
>
> You know, Just Saying.

Hey!

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Jax :)

OldGringo38

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May 23, 2013, 6:52:36 PM5/23/13
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On 05/23/2013 05:35 PM, Aardvark wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 17:26:40 -0500, OldGringo38 wrote:
>
>> On 05/23/2013 04:41 PM, Jax wrote:
>>> "Eagle" <deag...@geemail.com> wrote in
>>> news:knlghl$t10$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> Aardvark laid this down on his screen :
>>>>> I have nothing to learn from you, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> You have much to learn, but no will to do so. When you lose the rocks
>>>> in your head, you might be able to learn something of value.
>>>> You're an asshole, but contrary to what others think of you, you have
>>>> a small measure of humanity, and with that, there is hope for you yet.
>>>
>>> Eagle I suspect somewhere deep inside Aardvark is a nice person who has
>>> been acting in a loud brash way in a attempt to defend himself from
>>> perceived humiliation. :)
>>>
>>>
>> Maybe, just maybe if you were to change your tactics just a bit, you
>> might see the same side of him that I see.
>
> The troll had that opportunity when it first arrived here, George.
> Unfortunately, it chose not to take it. It preferred to troll me, obsess
> about me and stalk me. I know enough about its character (or *lack* of
> character, I should have said) now that even if it changed its ways right
> this minute, the best it could ever expect is that I never respond to it
> again.
>
>> You know, Just Saying.
>
> Well said, George. :-)
>
>
>

To bad on her part. I have noticed that all who place themselves in an
uncomfortable predicament have a tendency to try and place the blame on
anyone but themselves.

OldGringo38

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May 23, 2013, 6:53:26 PM5/23/13
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Try it you might like it.

SeaNymph

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May 23, 2013, 7:02:19 PM5/23/13
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OMG...funny you should say that. I don't really understand what kind of
response the troll expects with all the lies, slime and unfounded
insinuations and accusations it spews. :)

SeaNymph

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May 23, 2013, 7:02:56 PM5/23/13
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Bingo!!! You get a gold star!!

Aardvark

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May 23, 2013, 6:59:17 PM5/23/13
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Well, you didn't think I've suffered any loss in that regard, George?

> I have noticed that all who place themselves in an
> uncomfortable predicament have a tendency to try and place the blame on
> anyone but themselves.

Couldn't very well miss it in this group, where such people seem to tend
to congregate.

OldGringo38

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May 23, 2013, 7:04:54 PM5/23/13
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I really believe it's just a morbid since of humor and nothing more.

OldGringo38

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May 23, 2013, 7:05:53 PM5/23/13
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On 05/23/2013 06:02 PM, SeaNymph wrote:
Thanks, I'll put it on my forehead.

OldGringo38

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May 23, 2013, 7:12:12 PM5/23/13
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<g>

SeaNymph

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May 23, 2013, 7:17:00 PM5/23/13
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Excellent!!

SeaNymph

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May 23, 2013, 7:17:39 PM5/23/13
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I'll stick with my belief that the troll is totally lacking in common
sense, decency or compassion.

OldGringo38

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May 23, 2013, 7:30:06 PM5/23/13
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<g>

FromTheRafters

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May 23, 2013, 9:21:16 PM5/23/13
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BurfordTJustice

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May 24, 2013, 6:35:36 AM5/24/13
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"FromTheRafters" <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
news:knmf2n$251$1...@dont-email.me..

.hey motor mouth, where is my blog you
claim to know of??

Put up or be know as the Liar you are.


Aardvark

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May 24, 2013, 9:17:56 AM5/24/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:40:08 -0700, Eagle wrote:

> Aardvark laid this down on his screen :
>> I have nothing to learn from you, thanks.
>
> You have much to learn,

From you? I doubt it.

> but no will to do so.

Because you have nothing useful to teach me.

> When you lose the rocks in
> your head, you might be able to learn something of value.

LOL. Do you know the difference between a Communist and a Socialist?

> You're an asshole,

Only in response to assholes.

> but contrary to what others think of you, you have a
> small measure of humanity,

I have quite a lot of humanity.

> and with that, there is hope for you yet.

There always was, although I have no need to hope for anything. It's all
good here.

Jax

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May 24, 2013, 12:20:09 PM5/24/13
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FromTheRafters <err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:knmf2n$251$1...@dont-email.me:
LOL! Actually.... my hourly rate is 100 dollars. :)

--
Jax!
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Eagle

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May 25, 2013, 12:12:07 PM5/25/13
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Dustin explained on 5/25/2013 :
> Jax <do.not.remove....@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:XnsA1C8D7...@127.0.0.1:

>> G. Morgan <gra...@grahammorgan.name> wrote in
>> news:eoiop8p2g9nl84h4v...@Osama-is-dead.net:
>>
>>> First Amendment at stake.. .
>>>
>>> This is fucked up, the government is over-reaching yet again. They are
>>> using a terrible incident/crime to squelch our freedoms yet again.
>>>
>>> *Always* remember what Franklin said: "They who can give up essential
>>> liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor
>>> safety."
>>>
>>> Franklin was right back then and his words are even more meaningful
>>> today. If after reading the story below and you still have your lunch in
>>> your stomach, do what you can to help this kid.
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________
>>> 20 Years in Prison for a Facebook Post?
>>>
>>> A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held without bail
>>> for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20 years in prison for posting
>>> rap lyrics on the Internet.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/
>>
>> Graham maybe Dustin better watch out. He boasts too much about his
>> association with music pirates! :)
>>

> One thing for a usenet post, another thing entirely for some social media
> thing with a locally known kid.

> Apples and oranges,

> Just sayin... stupid cunt.

Only losers like you call Women cunt, Dustin.
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Eagle

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May 25, 2013, 1:40:47 PM5/25/13
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Dustin presented the following explanation :
> "Eagle" <deag...@geemail.com> wrote in news:knqnl1$1q6$1...@dont-email.me:
> *yawn*. Eagle, please don't pretend to compare the two of us for my choice
> of a very accurate word that describes her and her actions.

> That's not a woman, it's a former cokewh0re.

> Do you hold prostitutes in such high value as well? I bet you do.

Was your mother a whore?

Jax

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May 25, 2013, 1:59:57 PM5/25/13
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Dustin <jaxa...@phuckingwh0re.org> wrote in
news:XnsA1CB7BDFA6F64C9...@unknown.org:
>
> Graham,
>
> While I agree with you based on what I've also read so far, you are
> wasting your time. Convenience these days, and a false sense of security
> are the new fashion. Individual rights, not so much.

Do YOU have a false sense of security Dustin? Just asking! :)

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Jax

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May 25, 2013, 2:01:57 PM5/25/13
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"Eagle" <deag...@geemail.com> wrote in news:knqsr8$uod$1...@dont-email.me:
Interesting question.

Dustin calls me a cokewhore although he has no knowledge whatsoever of my
real life!

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Eagle

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May 25, 2013, 2:23:16 PM5/25/13
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Jax submitted this idea :
What did you expect from an illegitimate bastard, Jax? The pic of
dustbin standing in front of his van with his long hare and goofy cap
hanging the peace sign cracks me up every time I look at it.
What a goofy little puke he is.
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Jax

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May 25, 2013, 2:35:07 PM5/25/13
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"Eagle" <deag...@geemail.com> wrote in news:knqvau$c8d$1...@dont-email.me:
Eagle I know the pic you mean. It's this one Dustin uploaded a while
back.....

http://i40.tinypic.com/o7pw00.jpg

It makes me laugh every time too. He looks such a weed! LOL

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Jax

Eagle

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May 25, 2013, 3:12:56 PM5/25/13
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Jax grinned and said :
Can you believe this little weed wants to play fisticuff with me???
Whut a maroon! 120 pound skinny punk fighting me? What's he going to
use, a purse? buhahahahaha!

Jax

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May 25, 2013, 3:17:44 PM5/25/13
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"Eagle" <deag...@geemail.com> wrote in news:knr282$sgr$1...@dont-email.me:

> Jax grinned and said :
>
>> "Eagle" <deag...@geemail.com> wrote in
>> news:knqvau$c8d$1...@dont-email.me:
>
>>> Jax submitted this idea :
>>>
>>>> "Eagle" <deag...@geemail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:knqsr8$uod$1...@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Was your mother a whore?
>>>
>>>> Interesting question.
>>>
>>>> Dustin calls me a cokewhore although he has no knowledge whatsoever
>>>> of my real life!
>>>
>>> What did you expect from an illegitimate bastard, Jax? The pic of
>>> dustbin standing in front of his van with his long hare and goofy cap
>>> hanging the peace sign cracks me up every time I look at it. What a
>>> goofy little puke he is.
>
>> Eagle I know the pic you mean. It's this one Dustin uploaded a while
>> back..... http://i40.tinypic.com/o7pw00.jpg
>
>> It makes me laugh every time too. He looks such a weed! LOL
>
> Can you believe this little weed wants to play fisticuff with me??? Whut
> a maroon! 120 pound skinny punk fighting me?
>
> What's he going to use, a purse? buhahahahaha!

Eagle... maybe Dustin's going to use his big mouth. You can't compete with
that! LOL :)

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Eagle

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May 25, 2013, 4:30:04 PM5/25/13
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Jax presented the following explanation :
his mouth won't do him much good with it full of knuckles.

Metspitzer

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May 25, 2013, 5:42:48 PM5/25/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 23:42:35 -0500, G. Morgan
<gra...@grahammorgan.name> wrote:

>First Amendment at stake.. .
>
>This is fucked up, the government is over-reaching yet again. They are
>using a terrible incident/crime to squelch our freedoms yet again.
>
>*Always* remember what Franklin said: "They who can give up essential
>liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor
>safety."
>
>Franklin was right back then and his words are even more meaningful
>today. If after reading the story below and you still have your lunch in
>your stomach, do what you can to help this kid.
>
>___________________________________________
>20 Years in Prison for a Facebook Post?
>
>A teenager from a small town outside Boston has been held without bail
>for weeks. He faces terrorism charges and 20 years in prison for posting
>rap lyrics on the Internet.
>
>
>http://cms.fightforthefuture.org/teenager/

The South Carolina honors English teacher who lost his job because he
threw an American flag on the floor and stomped on it in front of his
students � in three different class periods � received a whopping
$85,000 settlement.

Read more:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/07/flag-stomping-south-carolina-english-teacher-gets-85000-settlement-from-school-district/#ixzz2ULKujA76

SeaNymph

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May 25, 2013, 7:10:22 PM5/25/13
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Guess that makes you the biggest loser of all :)

SeaNymph

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May 25, 2013, 7:11:45 PM5/25/13
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That was totally uncalled for. You're just as bad as bd and jax the
troll talking that way about someone's mother.

Jax

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SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in
news:knrg7i$t04$1...@dont-email.me:
Linda I have never called anybody a whore. However I have been called one
by Dustin! :(

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Eagle

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May 25, 2013, 9:48:32 PM5/25/13
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on 5/25/2013, SeaNymph supposed :
No, that would be you, SN.

SeaNymph

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May 26, 2013, 9:22:30 AM5/26/13
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And? What's your point? You've lied about Dustin, you continue to
discuss his family members, you get exactly what you deserve.

Eagle

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May 26, 2013, 11:42:24 AM5/26/13
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SeaNymph has brought this to us :
So by your reasoning, calling you a whore is no biggy, eh SN?

Aardvark

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May 26, 2013, 11:54:52 AM5/26/13
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Please explain the process whereby you came to that conclusion.
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