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Eagle

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Feb 15, 2012, 3:52:35 PM2/15/12
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I just emailed Charlie. I hope all is well for the Man.
If He gives the green light, I'll post His reply here.

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Eagle


Ham Radio Voice of the wind


Jenn

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Feb 15, 2012, 3:56:56 PM2/15/12
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Eagle wrote:
> I just emailed Charlie. I hope all is well for the Man.
> If He gives the green light, I'll post His reply here.

Hope he's well!

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Jenn


Eagle

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Feb 18, 2012, 9:23:56 PM2/18/12
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Jenn was thinking very hard :
I just heard from Him.
I'll post about it elsewhere.

RonNNN

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Feb 18, 2012, 9:28:14 PM2/18/12
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"Eagle" <no...@thanx.wecum> wrote in message
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> Jenn was thinking very hard :
>> Eagle wrote:
>>> I just emailed Charlie. I hope all is well for the Man.
>>> If He gives the green light, I'll post His reply here.
>>
>> Hope he's well!
>
> I just heard from Him.
> I'll post about it elsewhere.

And you needed to say that here? Why?





Bullwinkle.

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Feb 19, 2012, 6:23:53 AM2/19/12
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Makes feel like a big guy instead of a leech.


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Jenn

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Feb 19, 2012, 11:51:51 PM2/19/12
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Because he was talking in code and doesn't want you to understand what
he's really saying, RonNNN.

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Jenn
(posting from Thunderbird)

Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 9:11:03 AM2/20/12
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Jenn explained :
dit dit dit dit dit dit
lol

Jenn

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:28:13 AM2/20/12
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Was that a good punch line? LOL

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Jenn


Oldus Fartus

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:32:45 AM2/20/12
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You'd be a rarity now Eagle, to still know Morse?

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Cheers
Oldus Fartus

~BD~

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:44:04 AM2/20/12
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Don't Radio Ham's still need it - to pass the required examinations
before transmitting 'solo'?

I'm fairly sure they had to - back-along.

<aside> when a cadet at BRNC, I had to attend a Morse session at 6am
daily on the parade ground - IIRC, that was each and every morning, but
I may be wrong about the frequency ..... and maybe the exact time too!

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Dave - "It is much better to be hated for what you are, than to be loved
for what you definitely are not." "Do unto others as you would have them
do unto you."

Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:45:08 AM2/20/12
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Oldus Fartus presented the following explanation :
Isn't that sad?
I learned morse code long ago when I started learning about radio
waves. I use code 75% of my radio time, and really enjoy it. Anyone can
grab a mic and talk, but now that code is no longer a requirement for a
Ham Radio license, all the CB enthusiasts are getting their ticket.
They have no idea what the protocol is for Ham radio communication, so
we have to do on-air teaching for these "hams". Most will listen and
learn, but some will think they know it all and continue jamming the
bands.
I usually stay on low end of 40 meters or 20 meters when I'm doing
code. I used to run a CW class on ten meters for the novice/tech
license holders so they could pass the code test.

Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:46:37 AM2/20/12
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~BD~ wrote :
> Don't Radio Ham's still need it - to pass the required examinations before
> transmitting 'solo'?

Not any longer, Dave. The code element was dropped a few years back.

Jenn

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:59:51 AM2/20/12
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.. so you do know morse code? cool!

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Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 11:12:47 AM2/20/12
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Jenn explained :
-.-- . ... .. .. - --- .--- . -. -.
y e s I d o j e n n

Bullwinkle.

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Feb 20, 2012, 11:12:43 AM2/20/12
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Do try to keep up you Lying, thieving, abusing fuckwit.


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Jenn

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Feb 20, 2012, 11:16:15 AM2/20/12
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I've tried to memorize it and even listen to it so I could learn it from
memory, but not much success at it. How long did it take you to learn it?

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Jenn


Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 11:30:05 AM2/20/12
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Jenn used her keyboard to write :

> I've tried to memorize it and even listen to it so I could learn it from
> memory, but not much success at it. How long did it take you to learn it?

Not long. About 5 weeks to be good enough to read and send 15 words per
minute.
There are fee programs available online for learning CW. [morse code]

Here are some web sites that can help you learn CW...

http://www.arrl.org/learning-morse-code

http://www.justlearnmorsecode.com/

http://www.ac6v.com/morseprograms.htm

~BD~

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Feb 20, 2012, 11:32:33 AM2/20/12
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Eagle wrote:
> ~BD~ wrote :
>> Don't Radio Ham's still need it - to pass the required examinations
>> before transmitting 'solo'?
>
> Not any longer, Dave. The code element was dropped a few years back.
>

Ah! Hutber's Law!

Shame.

Thank for the education, Eagle! :-)

Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 12:02:51 PM2/20/12
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~BD~ submitted this idea :
> Eagle wrote:
>> ~BD~ wrote :
>>> Don't Radio Ham's still need it - to pass the required examinations
>>> before transmitting 'solo'?
>>
>> Not any longer, Dave. The code element was dropped a few years back.
>>
>
> Ah! Hutber's Law!

Exactly.
>
> Shame.

It is for those who had to learn the code and pass the code test given
at the local FCC field offices. There were three tests. one for five
words per minute,[novice and tech] 13 words per minute,[general] and 20
words per minute. [extra] Five WPM for a tech license, which gave you
VHF/UHF phone privileges, but no phone privileges on the HF bands, only
code on 10 meters, 15 meters, 40 meters and 80 meters. 13 WPM got you
phone privileges on all the HF bands, but only in the general class
portions witch included 160 meters, 80/75 meters, 40 meters, 20 meters,
15 meters, and 10 meters.
We now have a few new bands on HF...17 meters, 12 meters, and 30
meters. We have a 50khz section of 60 meters as well, but is restricted
to 50 watts.
And finally, 20 WPM, which gave you all privileges on all bands.


> Thank for the education, Eagle! :-)

I like my hobby. :')

Jenn

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Feb 20, 2012, 12:10:34 PM2/20/12
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ok ... looking

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~BD~

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Feb 20, 2012, 12:16:02 PM2/20/12
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Eagle wrote:
> ~BD~ submitted this idea :
>> Eagle wrote:
>>> ~BD~ wrote :
>>>> Don't Radio Ham's still need it - to pass the required examinations
>>>> before transmitting 'solo'?
>>>
>>> Not any longer, Dave. The code element was dropped a few years back.
>>>
>>
>> Ah! Hutber's Law!
>
> Exactly.

Noted that you know! ;-)

"Change purported to be for the better is invariably for the worse!"

>>
>> Shame.
>
> It is for those who had to learn the code and pass the code test given
> at the local FCC field offices. There were three tests. one for five
> words per minute,[novice and tech] 13 words per minute,[general] and 20
> words per minute. [extra] Five WPM for a tech license, which gave you
> VHF/UHF phone privileges, but no phone privileges on the HF bands, only
> code on 10 meters, 15 meters, 40 meters and 80 meters. 13 WPM got you
> phone privileges on all the HF bands, but only in the general class
> portions witch included 160 meters, 80/75 meters, 40 meters, 20 meters,
> 15 meters, and 10 meters.
> We now have a few new bands on HF...17 meters, 12 meters, and 30 meters.
> We have a 50khz section of 60 meters as well, but is restricted to 50
> watts.
> And finally, 20 WPM, which gave you all privileges on all bands.

I'm sure you like 'dumbing down' just about as much as me! :-(

>
>> Thank for the education, Eagle! :-)
>
> I like my hobby. :')
>

I'm surprised that G. Morgan didn't ask *you* for some advice.

This message reference:

Message-ID: <p5noj7t49i50a14kd...@Osama-is-dead.net>

Perhaps he'd not taken on-board your experience in this field. <shrug>

Jenn

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Feb 20, 2012, 12:32:16 PM2/20/12
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I think I will begin by learning to hear the letters in my first name, and
then mix them up until I recognize them individually vs recognizing them in
the order my name is spelled. I'll start out real slow like 5 wpm. I'm
using this: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html

Does that sound like a good way to learn it?


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Jenn


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~BD~

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Feb 20, 2012, 3:01:43 PM2/20/12
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ASCII wrote:
> Eagle wrote:
>>
>> It is for those who had to learn the code and pass the code test given
>> at the local FCC field offices. There were three tests. one for five
>> words per minute,[novice and tech] 13 words per minute,[general] and 20
>> words per minute. [extra] Five WPM for a tech license, which gave you
>> VHF/UHF phone privileges, but no phone privileges on the HF bands, only
>> code on 10 meters, 15 meters, 40 meters and 80 meters. 13 WPM got you
>> phone privileges on all the HF bands, but only in the general class
>> portions witch included 160 meters, 80/75 meters, 40 meters, 20 meters,
>> 15 meters, and 10 meters.
>
> I guess I'm a circumstantial relic of a time when
> I had to do 13wpm to validate advanced privileges.
> Reminds me I need to send in a renewal 605
> (or whatever it's called these days)
>
>> We now have a few new bands on HF...17 meters, 12 meters, and 30
>> meters.
>
> I no longer have any antennas for the WARC bands
> and 40 is the only functional HF antenna still out there.
>
>> We have a 50khz section of 60 meters as well, but is restricted
>> to 50 watts.
>
> I've only rarely heard anyone on 60, was some years ago
> there were some people up in LA that would meet in the evenings.
> `
>> And finally, 20 WPM, which gave you all privileges on all bands.
>
> At 20 I have a very short attention span, even with a stick.
> I guess you caught those brass pounders on Jay Leno 4 years ago?
> http://lat.ms/MZRjS


"The video has been removed by the user" ..... it says here!
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Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 4:36:28 PM2/20/12
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ASCII wrote on 2/20/2012 :
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> ASCII wrote:
>
>>> I guess you caught those brass pounders on Jay Leno 4 years ago?
>>> http://lat.ms/MZRjS
>>
>>
>> "The video has been removed by the user" ..... it says here!
>
> I only googled the link but didn't test it
> Try this one http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80603816/

Yeah, I saw this. They really can send and read well!
I'd ask for your call, but not a good idea here.

Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 4:45:50 PM2/20/12
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ASCII was thinking very hard :
> Eagle wrote:
>>
>> It is for those who had to learn the code and pass the code test given
>> at the local FCC field offices. There were three tests. one for five
>> words per minute,[novice and tech] 13 words per minute,[general] and 20
>> words per minute. [extra] Five WPM for a tech license, which gave you
>> VHF/UHF phone privileges, but no phone privileges on the HF bands, only
>> code on 10 meters, 15 meters, 40 meters and 80 meters. 13 WPM got you
>> phone privileges on all the HF bands, but only in the general class
>> portions witch included 160 meters, 80/75 meters, 40 meters, 20 meters,
>> 15 meters, and 10 meters.
>
> I guess I'm a circumstantial relic of a time when
> I had to do 13wpm to validate advanced privileges.
> Reminds me I need to send in a renewal 605
> (or whatever it's called these days)

I renewed when I moved here back in '02. You can efile now, so that's
handy!
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=cft&id=amateur&page=cft_renew_amateur

>
>> We now have a few new bands on HF...17 meters, 12 meters, and 30
>> meters.
>
> I no longer have any antennas for the WARC bands
> and 40 is the only functional HF antenna still out there.

I use my inverted vee for 40. I am thinking on getting the 40 meter add
on for my steppIR 3 el beam, or just go ahead and get a real antenna
and put up a 3 element yagi on 40. I do 40 every weekend, and find
myself listening to the swapnet at 7.240 +/-.
>
>> We have a 50khz section of 60 meters as well, but is restricted
>> to 50 watts.
>
> I've only rarely heard anyone on 60, was some years ago
> there were some people up in LA that would meet in the evenings.

Those fellers were part of the 40 meter war zone. lol
> `
>> And finally, 20 WPM, which gave you all privileges on all bands.
>
> At 20 I have a very short attention span, even with a stick.
It's a challenge...or so they say... lol

~BD~

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Feb 20, 2012, 5:28:58 PM2/20/12
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ASCII wrote:
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> ASCII wrote:
>
>>> I guess you caught those brass pounders on Jay Leno 4 years ago?
>>> http://lat.ms/MZRjS
>>
>>
>> "The video has been removed by the user" ..... it says here!
>
> I only googled the link but didn't test it
> Try this one http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80603816/

OK! Got that. Thanks! :-)

Oldus Fartus

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Feb 20, 2012, 7:23:38 PM2/20/12
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Yes it is sad Eagle, there could very much come a time when all the
modern communication technology fails - and the only standby is morse.
IMHO, it should never have been dropped from the requirements for a full
license.

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Oldus Fartus
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Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 8:53:16 PM2/20/12
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ASCII explained on 2/20/2012 :
> Too many know about QRZ,
> but I can tell you it's a 2x2 and not a vanity either.
> Or I could be a smart ass and say the number is six <g>

I drink Whiskey at 6pm because I a M L egal.

Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 8:55:00 PM2/20/12
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ASCII laid this down on his screen :
> Eagle wrote:
>>
>> I renewed when I moved here back in '02. You can efile now, so that's
>> handy!
>> http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=cft&id=amateur&page=cft_renew_amateur
>
> I already bit the bullet and sent a MO to W5YI in Texas.

Oh well....spread the wealth so they say. :D

Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 8:56:24 PM2/20/12
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Oldus Fartus brought next idea :
We fought to not have it dropped, but were out gunned by the ARRL. We
now have many new Hams, but at what cost....

Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 8:57:54 PM2/20/12
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ASCII wrote on 2/20/2012 :
> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes it is sad Eagle, there could very much come a time when all the
>> modern communication technology fails - and the only standby is morse.
>> IMHO, it should never have been dropped from the requirements for a full
>> license.
>
> I agree, it's not like legal services or transportation so doesn't need
> any affirmative action assistance. To me it's an elite (sort of) hobby that
> would benefit from proof of proficiency and not just rote memorization.
> I tell the no-coders that they can get a CB or cell phone
> but stay off the HAM bands! Then again, I'm sort of an old school fool.

I had a CB lincense once...KBNI3579... lol
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Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 9:55:09 PM2/20/12
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ASCII has brought this to us :
> Eagle wrote:
>
>> I drink Whiskey at 6pm because I a M L egal.
>
> Says you're 64.5 miles from me at a vector of 355.1° N
> That's within range of many of our bands,
> especially when I was on the 3840 nightly nut house.

We'll have to set up a sched then. I'll need to put up my inverted vee
for 75 first. It's laying on the ground and ready to pull up. Can you
do 7.235 some afternoon?

Eagle

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Feb 20, 2012, 9:59:54 PM2/20/12
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ASCII wrote on 2/20/2012 :
> Eagle wrote:
>> Oldus Fartus brought next idea :
>>>
>>> Yes it is sad Eagle, there could very much come a time when all the modern
>>> communication technology fails - and the only standby is morse. IMHO, it
>>> should never have been dropped from the requirements for a full license.
>>
>> We fought to not have it dropped, but were out gunned by the ARRL. We
>> now have many new Hams, but at what cost....
>
> It was a consortium of HRO and AES to sell more of those
> newer multi-kilobuck HF rigs that lobbied for no-code.
> The already had a taste in '91 with handy talky sales.

Isn't that a hoot? A FT-9000 for 13K? I've had several Kenwood and
Yaesu rigs, one Icom and one Ten Tec. I now have a FT-2000 I bought in
07. IOt's still state of the art and it will most likely be my last
rig. I have a Henry 3K Classic with the 4KV power supply and 8877
final.
Wks gud!
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Eagle

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Feb 21, 2012, 9:15:32 AM2/21/12
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ASCII formulated the question :
> Last time I ran a VSWR check, my default 7250 worked just fine.
> It's a salvaged six meter vertical (23 feet) at eight feet with a ground rod
> directly beneath it. I'll have to juggle some connectors as it's currently
> being used for a generic SW antenna.

Do you have room for a center fed dipole cut for 7.250mhz?

Eagle

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Feb 21, 2012, 10:39:01 AM2/21/12
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ASCII explained on 2/21/2012 :
> Eagle wrote:
>> I have a Henry 3K Classic with the 4KV power supply and 8877
>> final
>
> Last time I used one of those metal ceramic triodes (8877)
> was when working at a CB repair shop in Mississippi,
> it was 10-8 as they say <g>

Those charlie brown amps are wild. Talk about being power hungry! [Some
Hams are into big amps as well though... lol] The gain over using legal
power isn't worth the expense involved with building a monster amp, but
it it fun... lol

> I used to wind my own baluns and the damn thing had a habit of making the
> circular chokes go brittle and explode. Used THHC 12 ga wire so it could take
> the heat, just never could rely on the baluns.

When I moved here in '02, I was introduced to a fellow who had a old
Henry 2K he wanted to sell. I went to his house to check it out, and
found the amp in boxes. Everything was taken apart...the RF deck, the
HV PS, and the whole console. I quickly found out what the problem
was...a blown choke. I think I offered him $200.00 for the amp, I don't
remember, but it was well worth it! The guy had just bought two brand
new 3-500 eimac's which were included!
I couldn't find an original choke, so I wound one and used it instead.
After a bit of aligning, I had it up and working FB. I sold it a year
later for $650.00 on QTH and bought another Henry console amp. A 2K4 I
believe.
I sold that one and bought this 3K Classic, and it will never go. I've
had several Henry console amps, one being the 4K Ultra. Now THAT is a
finely built amp!

Eagle

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Feb 21, 2012, 10:43:34 AM2/21/12
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ASCII wrote :
> Eagle wrote:
>> I've had several Kenwood and
>> Yaesu rigs, one Icom and one Ten Tec. I now have a FT-2000 I bought in
>> 07. IOt's still state of the art and it will most likely be my last
>> rig.
>
> In my current state of austerity I'm down to a TS-2000 Kenwood,
> plus a TH-F6 (great all round pocket sized trinket)
> I think there's a few FRS handies in a box somewhere,
> but that F6 outperforms them all, even the Motorola ones.

Ah yes...the TS-2000. That is a very good sounding rig. Most all
Kenwood HF rigs have the Kenwood sound, which is mellow and pleasant to
listen to. It's cw tone is just as nice! What mic do you use with it? I
have a MC-60 if you need one.
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Eagle

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Feb 21, 2012, 9:21:45 PM2/21/12
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ASCII wrote :
> Eagle wrote:
>>
>> Those charlie brown amps are wild. Talk about being power hungry! [Some
>> Hams are into big amps as well though... lol] The gain over using legal
>> power isn't worth the expense involved with building a monster amp, but
>> it it fun... lol
>
> It all comes down to ego,
> being able to prevail at a keydown trumps expense.
> http://bit.ly/xfAv2j (an 8877 in action)
> bet the slug in that bird 43 was getting warm.
> Sure is a lotta talk power for those with nothing to say ;-)
> For those bumpkins to push an 'S' meter to the peg takes the place
> of being able to push a sperm up their old lady, if they have one.

<g> No pecker but lots of watts... :D

Eagle

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Feb 21, 2012, 9:24:59 PM2/21/12
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on 2/21/2012, ASCII supposed :
> Just the MC-43 stock hand held, but I loaded a custom audio profile so it
> sounds like a major downtown rig.
> I only have a straight key that an old brass pounder gave me,
> I think it's a vintage J-38 style or some such, with the rounded knob.
> It was originally designed to be strapped on a pilot's leg,
> if you can imagine flying a WWII fighter aircraft 'and' working CW.

That's the great thing about these new rigs. You can customize the
output audio. I have mine set, and the numbers written down in my log
book. I use a Electro voice RE20 studio mic here, and on a boom. I key
with vox.
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