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~BD~
Aug 1, 2014, 9:20:30 AM8/1/14
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by Lisa Vaas on August 1, 2014
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Two Carnegie-Mellon-affiliated researchers, Alexander Volynkin and
Michael McCord, had planned to give a talk at Black Hat USA 2014 about
how to break Tor anonymity using a bargain basement kit that cost less
than $3,000 (£1,780).
From the original description, before Carnegie-Mellon's lawyers had the
talk yanked from the lineup last week:
There is nothing to prevent you from using your resources to
de-anonymize the network's users ... by exploiting fundamental flaws in
Tor design and implementation. And you don't need the NSA budget to do so.
Looking for the IP address of a Tor user? No problem. Trying to uncover
the location of a hidden service? Done. We know because we tested it, in
the wild...
On Wednesday, The Tor Project confirmed in a security advisory that
somebody or somebodies has done just that.
For five months, attackers have assaulted the anonymising network and
may have unmasked the people who run or visit hidden sites.
More:
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/08/01/tor-attack-may-have-unmasked-anonymous-users/
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Two Carnegie-Mellon-affiliated researchers, Alexander Volynkin and
Michael McCord, had planned to give a talk at Black Hat USA 2014 about
how to break Tor anonymity using a bargain basement kit that cost less
than $3,000 (£1,780).
From the original description, before Carnegie-Mellon's lawyers had the
talk yanked from the lineup last week:
There is nothing to prevent you from using your resources to
de-anonymize the network's users ... by exploiting fundamental flaws in
Tor design and implementation. And you don't need the NSA budget to do so.
Looking for the IP address of a Tor user? No problem. Trying to uncover
the location of a hidden service? Done. We know because we tested it, in
the wild...
On Wednesday, The Tor Project confirmed in a security advisory that
somebody or somebodies has done just that.
For five months, attackers have assaulted the anonymising network and
may have unmasked the people who run or visit hidden sites.
More:
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/08/01/tor-attack-may-have-unmasked-anonymous-users/
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BurfordTJustice
Aug 3, 2014, 7:07:27 AM8/3/14
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"Dustin" <abugh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:lrg46n$pop$1...@dont-email.me:
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a cloud of mystery here with the description. I also believe it's using
scare tactics.
Tor has disclosed all of this information since it's inception. The
vulernabilities, the fact you can be a bad guy and setup a nice honeypot,
etc. This recent media/AV hype spotlight on it isn't because the
discoveries themselves are new, it's because various governments are so
tired of Tor, they want it gone. AND not exactly for what you might think.
Yes, it can be used to shut up/cut down on some unwanted
leakers/whistleblowers, but some feel it's also the first step in
stopping/greatly reducing the digital piracy that occurs daily via bit
torrent.
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LOL!! You are the only one who cared about what david posted....
~BD~
Aug 3, 2014, 10:49:48 AM8/3/14
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>> http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/08/01/tor-attack-may-have-unmasked-a
>> nonymous-users/
>
> For those curious, while the article is true; it's trying to hide things in
> a cloud of mystery here with the description. I also believe it's using
> scare tactics.
>
> Tor has disclosed all of this information since it's inception. The
> vulernabilities, the fact you can be a bad guy and setup a nice honeypot,
> etc. This recent media/AV hype spotlight on it isn't because the
> discoveries themselves are new, it's because various governments are so
> tired of Tor, they want it gone. AND not exactly for what you might think.
> Yes, it can be used to shut up/cut down on some unwanted
> leakers/whistleblowers, but some feel it's also the first step in
> stopping/greatly reducing the digital piracy that occurs daily via bit
> torrent.
That could put HHI out of business, eh, Dustin?
>> nonymous-users/
>
> For those curious, while the article is true; it's trying to hide things in
> a cloud of mystery here with the description. I also believe it's using
> scare tactics.
>
> Tor has disclosed all of this information since it's inception. The
> vulernabilities, the fact you can be a bad guy and setup a nice honeypot,
> etc. This recent media/AV hype spotlight on it isn't because the
> discoveries themselves are new, it's because various governments are so
> tired of Tor, they want it gone. AND not exactly for what you might think.
> Yes, it can be used to shut up/cut down on some unwanted
> leakers/whistleblowers, but some feel it's also the first step in
> stopping/greatly reducing the digital piracy that occurs daily via bit
> torrent.
Dustin
Sep 16, 2014, 8:35:51 PM9/16/14
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~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:lrli5v$tsn$2...@dont-email.me:
> That could put HHI out of business, eh, Dustin?
HHI doesn't make use of Tor technology.
You will find, again, that I was being truthful with you when I said,
there is nothing you can do about HHI or it's activities. Past, present
or future. You couldn't prevent your sons early demise anymore so than
you can do anything to HHI or it's members. Sorry.
--
44617669642042726F6F6B730D0A4A657273657920436F74746167652038
36204772616E617279204C616E65204275646C656967682053616C746572
746F6E0D0A4465766F6E204558392036455220556E69746564204B696E67
646F6D0D0A50686F6E653A2034342D313339352D343433333430 - Hex
news:lrli5v$tsn$2...@dont-email.me:
> That could put HHI out of business, eh, Dustin?
You will find, again, that I was being truthful with you when I said,
there is nothing you can do about HHI or it's activities. Past, present
or future. You couldn't prevent your sons early demise anymore so than
you can do anything to HHI or it's members. Sorry.
--
44617669642042726F6F6B730D0A4A657273657920436F74746167652038
36204772616E617279204C616E65204275646C656967682053616C746572
746F6E0D0A4465766F6E204558392036455220556E69746564204B696E67
646F6D0D0A50686F6E653A2034342D313339352D343433333430 - Hex
Mike Duffy
Sep 17, 2014, 12:45:18 AM9/17/14
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 00:35:51 +0000 (UTC), Dustin wrote:
> You couldn't prevent your son's early demise
The coroner could not even state a cause of death. What can a parent do to
prevent the unforseeable death of a seemingly healthy child?
Yes, Dave has made ridiculous comparisons between the acts of sexual
assault and the act of remote computer infiltration. Yes, Dave can't seem
to accept your apology for raising global awareness of networked computer
vulnerabilities. Yes, Dave has some annoying posting habits. Yes, Dave has
a band of followers that share his antiquated view of intellectual property
rights.
But your statement seems to me to be needlessly cruel. You should be able
to attack the semantic content of his posts without stooping to that level.
--
http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/index.htm
> You couldn't prevent your son's early demise
The coroner could not even state a cause of death. What can a parent do to
prevent the unforseeable death of a seemingly healthy child?
Yes, Dave has made ridiculous comparisons between the acts of sexual
assault and the act of remote computer infiltration. Yes, Dave can't seem
to accept your apology for raising global awareness of networked computer
vulnerabilities. Yes, Dave has some annoying posting habits. Yes, Dave has
a band of followers that share his antiquated view of intellectual property
rights.
But your statement seems to me to be needlessly cruel. You should be able
to attack the semantic content of his posts without stooping to that level.
--
http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/index.htm
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 12:54:02 AM9/17/14
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Mike Duffy <md_...@videotron.ca> wrote in
news:lvb3ks$rjt$1...@dont-email.me:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 00:35:51 +0000 (UTC), Dustin wrote:
>
>> You couldn't prevent your son's early demise
>
seemed to have on you. That was the whole point behind writing it. It
wasn't necessary to do so, I wanted to do so. To be blunt, I wanted
to poke him with a very sharp stick in a place I knew would hurt
emotionally. What effect it may have when he reads those words will
still not be enough to settle our score, though. He will need to
bleed a bit more to make things right between us.
You don't know our history. I hope you take the time to download the
email archive I put online recently and read it. Once you've done so,
I can bring you upto speed quickly. Whatever sympathy you feel for
him is unwarranted, I assure you.
http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/david1.zip
news:lvb3ks$rjt$1...@dont-email.me:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 00:35:51 +0000 (UTC), Dustin wrote:
>
>> You couldn't prevent your son's early demise
>
> Yes, Dave has made ridiculous comparisons between the acts of
> sexual assault and the act of remote computer infiltration. Yes,
> Dave can't seem to accept your apology for raising global
> awareness of networked computer vulnerabilities. Yes, Dave has
> some annoying posting habits. Yes, Dave has a band of followers
> that share his antiquated view of intellectual property rights.
>
> But your statement seems to me to be needlessly cruel. You should
> be able to attack the semantic content of his posts without
> stooping to that level.
I hope the statement has the same effect on him, or worse, that it
> sexual assault and the act of remote computer infiltration. Yes,
> Dave can't seem to accept your apology for raising global
> awareness of networked computer vulnerabilities. Yes, Dave has
> some annoying posting habits. Yes, Dave has a band of followers
> that share his antiquated view of intellectual property rights.
>
> But your statement seems to me to be needlessly cruel. You should
> be able to attack the semantic content of his posts without
> stooping to that level.
seemed to have on you. That was the whole point behind writing it. It
wasn't necessary to do so, I wanted to do so. To be blunt, I wanted
to poke him with a very sharp stick in a place I knew would hurt
emotionally. What effect it may have when he reads those words will
still not be enough to settle our score, though. He will need to
bleed a bit more to make things right between us.
You don't know our history. I hope you take the time to download the
email archive I put online recently and read it. Once you've done so,
I can bring you upto speed quickly. Whatever sympathy you feel for
him is unwarranted, I assure you.
http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/david1.zip
~BD~
Sep 17, 2014, 9:19:22 AM9/17/14
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On 13 Aug 2007 at 17:13, Boater...@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Dustin
>
> What a refreshingly honest reply. Thank you.
Hmm.. Your welcome I guess. :)
> I must admit to having never heard of a Vxer, let alone a 'retired'
> one - and at such a young age too! I just had a feeling that you'd be
> around 30, so I was pretty close to the mark. <g>
I'm curious. What gave my age away to you before I said it?
> Could you once have written this?
<q>
Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them. Notice,
i said most people not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself have been
treated in my short miserable life (ah **** it, go ahead cracky, nail
me, wide open freebie). But, I was raised with the "nail me, nail
you" concept. I've been nailed since I began breathing.. if I had my
way, I'd long be dead... but, that's a different topic, so I won't
bore you with my life story.
</q>
You do your homework well, I must say. Yes, that's mine.
--
I rest my case! :-)
--
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
you win.
Mike Duffy
Sep 17, 2014, 9:49:19 AM9/17/14
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:19:22 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
> give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
> deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
> give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
> deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
> I rest my case! :-)
I'm not sure I am following your logic, David. I criticized Dustin for
being needlessly cruel to you, and then you produce a quote (of yourself)
saying that people deserve to be treated as cruelly as possible.
Am I mixing up attributions here?
--
http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/index.htm
~BD~
Sep 17, 2014, 10:00:53 AM9/17/14
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I very nearly spelled it out in first posting. My apology for any confusion.
BD said ....
> Hi Dustin
>
> What a refreshingly honest reply. Thank you.
"Hmm.. Your welcome I guess."
> I must admit to having never heard of a Vxer, let alone a 'retired'
> one - and at such a young age too! I just had a feeling that you'd be
> around 30, so I was pretty close to the mark. <g>
"I'm curious. What gave my age away to you before I said it?"
> Could you once have written this?
<q>
Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them. Notice,
i said most people not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself have been
treated in my short miserable life (ah **** it, go ahead cracky, nail
me, wide open freebie). But, I was raised with the "nail me, nail
you" concept. I've been nailed since I began breathing.. if I had my
way, I'd long be dead... but, that's a different topic, so I won't
bore you with my life story.
</q>
Dustin replied ...
i said most people not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself have been
treated in my short miserable life (ah **** it, go ahead cracky, nail
me, wide open freebie). But, I was raised with the "nail me, nail
you" concept. I've been nailed since I began breathing.. if I had my
way, I'd long be dead... but, that's a different topic, so I won't
bore you with my life story.
</q>
"You do your homework well, I must say. Yes, that's mine."
HTH
Mike Duffy
Sep 17, 2014, 10:26:53 AM9/17/14
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:00:53 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
> Yes, you *are* mixing up attributions, Mike! ;-)
Well, it is not the first time this has ever happened to me, and probably
> Yes, you *are* mixing up attributions, Mike! ;-)
will not be the last.
On an obliquely-related note, I don't want to come off as a self-appointed
Usenet "politeness" cop, but you two are bringing out the worst in each
other. I really don't want to offend either of you, so I should just butt
out and stop playing the part of "The Great Mediator" if I can't even keep
my attributions straight.
--
http://pages.videotron.com/duffym/index.htm
Jax
Sep 17, 2014, 10:30:11 AM9/17/14
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then uses it as a pretense to justify a disproportionate response.
--
Jax
Jax
Sep 17, 2014, 10:43:03 AM9/17/14
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Mike Duffy <md_...@videotron.ca> wrote in
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"i don't give a damn about most people; people to me
are like insects, they deserve to be treated as cruely
as I can possibly treat them."
<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!
original/alt.comp.virus/1MmxU8klIhk/c4BVQrZeN94J>
Jax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> START
From: Raid Slam <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid>
Subject: Re: sex ta 10 <--Attn: Raid [SLAM]
Date: 1999/11/28
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In article <01n04sg3tif73504t...@4ax.com>, Dr. Costas
Giannakenas MD <cg...@anon.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:59:26 -0800, Raid Slam
> <soho20N...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Raid,
> Why the heck do you bother to respond to these
> postings? Personally I would never bother.
Sorry for clipping the an...@cotse.com thing, hit the wrong key.
It's been a long day...
I responded to them originally because I was curious as to where
they get this "information" from. Surely they aren't reading too
many tabloids.
> Can't you see that ou are just playing their game? Whoever
> he/she/they (it?) is that is is carrying on this Raid-slamming is
> doing a great job of getting you pissed off and (even worse) they
> are making yourespond in the worst way possible (threats, gun-talk
> and other shit).
Yea. I guess I should just ignore them. People will believe whatever
they want too, regardless if it's true or not. Take the "I know who
raid is" post. A fucking riot that one was. Yet, more then likely;
somebody out there probably believes that bullshit. Which doesn't
sit all that great with me, that someone could think those things
are in my life, or that my life is anything like those. Ah well, I
expected that some/most would have a problem if I even tried
discussing viruses with them. See, people ignore the few good/decent
things I've done, and focus only on the bad things. That doesn't
tell me I should stop writing viruses, it only furthers my desire to
write more destructive ones. A sort of "So thats what you think eh
asshole? Well, what ya think now fuxor?".. Sure, a bit immature,
but...
> IMHO you are playing their game and coming off second best.
> Friendly suggestion: Don't bother replying to them!
Suggestion noted. FYI, I'm not going to respond to any more of them.
i've clogged this newsgroup up enough with it, and ruined my
credibility with a number of people. If Jed thinks I don't know what
I'm talking about, that's fine. he doesn't pay my salary; his
opinions of me don't mean anything.
> This is true so why not just stick to this? I have found your
> advice on the above matters useful. Hoping that you will see my
> advice in the same light.
Your advice is well taken, and I thank you for it.
> To get a few things straight. I don't care much for your virus
> writing as the damage that can be caused by one of your viruses is
> possibly greater than you could imagine - imagine if one of your
> creations was to trash my data.
My hope is that you will never encounter a virus of mine, As you've
done nothing to me. However, should you ever come across one of
mine, just email me, or write a note here; and I'll contact you with
removal instructions. I know it's not much, but...
> The data concerns patients with cancer, their lab tests, their
> therapies, the course of their disease etc. Loss of this data
> could possibly lead to loss of human lives. Why?
I don't want to harm anybody in that way. Noted exception: Jed
connors (cracky?) I lost a family member to cancer a few years
ago... So i have an idea how important your research is to you.
> Why should all this be swept away in one terrible moment because
> of one of your creations? (Please don't tell me to keep back-ups.
> I do - but one can never be too sure when data is shared with
> other colleagues also involved in the research and who are not as
> "paranoid" as I am :-)
The first thing I was going to do is tell you to get backups, but
you beat me to it. :) I tell you what, I won't finish the storm
trooper virus; nor any other ones. I'm going to be redoing my
website soon, and the virus binaries on it might be removed.
Available by email request only. This should keep them out of most
would-be harm doers hands.
I can't do anything about Toadie or Termite, as they've made it
wild, and they aren't coming home... But, I can prevent Storm
Trooper and others (mine) from ever becoming wild.
> On the other hand, I have great respect for your programming
> skills and the knowledge that you obviously possess. Which is
> probably why I make a point of reading your responses when
> advice/help is requested on a.v.c.
I thank you kindly. It's a pity I didn't know anyone like you
growing up, i might not be as much of an asshole as I am today if I
had..
> I just wish that you could put this knowledge to better use.
Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
Notice, i said most people not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself
have been treated in my short miserable life (ah fuck it, go ahead
cracky, nail me, wide open freebie). But, I was raised with the
"nail me, nail you" concept. I've been nailed since I began
breathing.. if I had my way, I'd long be dead... but, thats a
"nail me, nail you" concept. I've been nailed since I began
different topic, so I won't bore you with my life story.
> I am taking the time to write you all this not because you are the
> only VXer "out there" but because I have a feeling that you will
> understand what I am trying to say and who knows... you may even
> take the time to think about what I am saying.
I understand what your trying to say, and I'm sorry if one of my
viruses ever does cause you harm. Your clearly one of the few people
on this planet that doesn't just make my skin crawl.
Regards,
Raid [SLAM]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> END
~BD~
Sep 17, 2014, 12:13:32 PM9/17/14
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SeaNymph
Sep 17, 2014, 12:43:36 PM9/17/14
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history between BD and Dustin, as well as between bd and a number of
other posters.
BD has a long history of insulting the family members of other posters,
people who don't post in here. FYI, bd once didn't like the way I was
posting and contacted my husband. The result of that was bd's name
being added to a national security watch list.
BD is also long been noted for his extreme cruelty to others, butting
into their private business, bringing up painful memories of lost loved
ones and making light of serious medical conditions.
I am of the opinion that he is a cruel, heartless person, totally
lacking in common sense, decency or the privacy of others. Frankly, I
think he's simply reaping what he's sown.
SeaNymph
Sep 17, 2014, 12:44:45 PM9/17/14
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about people, insult them and their family members, stalk them, attempt
to solicit the private information of others.
Please don't act like you're innocent.
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 1:54:04 PM9/17/14
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~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:7fydncMpEuXHF4TJ...@bt.com:
> I rest my case! :-)
Not so fast. It's best to read our entire conversation from beginning
to end. Nothing out of context that way. I can't blame you for trying
to fix the mess you're in now. :)
news:7fydncMpEuXHF4TJ...@bt.com:
> I rest my case! :-)
to end. Nothing out of context that way. I can't blame you for trying
to fix the mess you're in now. :)
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 1:55:03 PM9/17/14
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Mike Duffy <md_...@videotron.ca> wrote in
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write, during my VX career. He knows that, email correspondence that
he'd prefer you don't view explains it all. :)
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 1:57:54 PM9/17/14
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SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in
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You forgot to mention, he's using one specific email out of context..
He really doesn't want anyone to read our history. He fucked up,
didn't think I had those emails. :)
news:lvcdn6$o0n$2...@dont-email.me:
He really doesn't want anyone to read our history. He fucked up,
didn't think I had those emails. :)
Jax
Sep 17, 2014, 2:06:45 PM9/17/14
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SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in
news:lvcdpb$o0n$3...@dont-email.me:
Linda try and stay on topic..... we're discussing Dustin's behavior.
Just saying.
--
Jax
news:lvcdpb$o0n$3...@dont-email.me:
Just saying.
--
Jax
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 2:23:05 PM9/17/14
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~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:7fydncMpEuXHF4TJ...@bt.com:
> Here's a good extract for Mike to read ......
http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/david1.zip
So you downloaded the .zip then and verified it's what I said it was?
:)
> I rest my case! :-)
Not so fast though. As you full well know, I wrote those words while
active in VX; a long long time ago. We discussed it infact, in the
very emails you gave me permission to post. [g] It's all in the .zip
file though. As you know. Your efforts to try and dodge things won't
work now. Those emails are all public knowledge now. You can't
pretend you didn't do this or try that anymore. Your own words have
come back to haunt you.
Others will find when they take the time to read the emails, that
you've been libeling me for a long long time now and i'm not the evil
person you're desperately trying to paint me as. If anything, those
emails only boost my credibility concerning the things I've written
about you. But, the emails have the ironic twist of hurting yours.
they don't support the BS you've posted here. They support me. LOLZ.
news:7fydncMpEuXHF4TJ...@bt.com:
> Here's a good extract for Mike to read ......
So you downloaded the .zip then and verified it's what I said it was?
:)
> I rest my case! :-)
active in VX; a long long time ago. We discussed it infact, in the
very emails you gave me permission to post. [g] It's all in the .zip
file though. As you know. Your efforts to try and dodge things won't
work now. Those emails are all public knowledge now. You can't
pretend you didn't do this or try that anymore. Your own words have
come back to haunt you.
Others will find when they take the time to read the emails, that
you've been libeling me for a long long time now and i'm not the evil
person you're desperately trying to paint me as. If anything, those
emails only boost my credibility concerning the things I've written
about you. But, the emails have the ironic twist of hurting yours.
they don't support the BS you've posted here. They support me. LOLZ.
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 2:23:50 PM9/17/14
to
Jax <remove.bea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:XnsA3AB9FE3245F6jax@
127.0.0.1:
> Date: 1999/11/28
Nuff said.
127.0.0.1:
> Date: 1999/11/28
Nuff said.
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 2:26:28 PM9/17/14
to
SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in
news:lvcdn6$o0n$2...@dont-email.me:
> On 9/17/2014 8:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:19:22 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i
>>> don't give a damn about most people; people to me are like
>>> insects, they deserve to be treated as cruely as I can
>>> possibly treat them.
>>
>>> I rest my case! :-)
>>
>> I'm not sure I am following your logic, David. I criticized
>> Dustin for being needlessly cruel to you, and then you produce a
>> quote (of yourself) saying that people deserve to be treated as
>> cruelly as possible.
>>
>> Am I mixing up attributions here?
>>
> I think what you're missing in the general scheme of things is the
> history between BD and Dustin, as well as between bd and a number
> of other posters.
He can catch up pretty quick. He only has to read the email archive
to get a clear picture of what BD is and the problem BD and I have.
IMO, he's far too respectful towards BD.
> BD has a long history of insulting the family members of other
> posters, people who don't post in here. FYI, bd once didn't like
> the way I was posting and contacted my husband. The result of
> that was bd's name being added to a national security watch list.
He insulted someone I don't even know in the very emails I've shared
with all of you. He tried to pit me and some person I don't know
against each other and it offended the other person. You'll see in
the emails that he tries to double check me with other people and
well, heh, I don't even mean to do it, but they get schooled.
> I am of the opinion that he is a cruel, heartless person, totally
> lacking in common sense, decency or the privacy of others.
> Frankly, I think he's simply reaping what he's sown.
Indeed. He said I could post the emails! I guess he thought I didn't
really have all of them, or wouldn't take him up on his offer? Either
way, he loses.
news:lvcdn6$o0n$2...@dont-email.me:
> On 9/17/2014 8:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:19:22 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i
>>> don't give a damn about most people; people to me are like
>>> insects, they deserve to be treated as cruely as I can
>>> possibly treat them.
>>
>>> I rest my case! :-)
>>
>> I'm not sure I am following your logic, David. I criticized
>> Dustin for being needlessly cruel to you, and then you produce a
>> quote (of yourself) saying that people deserve to be treated as
>> cruelly as possible.
>>
>> Am I mixing up attributions here?
>>
> I think what you're missing in the general scheme of things is the
> history between BD and Dustin, as well as between bd and a number
> of other posters.
to get a clear picture of what BD is and the problem BD and I have.
IMO, he's far too respectful towards BD.
> BD has a long history of insulting the family members of other
> posters, people who don't post in here. FYI, bd once didn't like
> the way I was posting and contacted my husband. The result of
> that was bd's name being added to a national security watch list.
with all of you. He tried to pit me and some person I don't know
against each other and it offended the other person. You'll see in
the emails that he tries to double check me with other people and
well, heh, I don't even mean to do it, but they get schooled.
> I am of the opinion that he is a cruel, heartless person, totally
> lacking in common sense, decency or the privacy of others.
> Frankly, I think he's simply reaping what he's sown.
really have all of them, or wouldn't take him up on his offer? Either
way, he loses.
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 2:28:02 PM9/17/14
to
SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in
news:lvcdpb$o0n$3...@dont-email.me:
> And lets be honest here jackie, your style, and that of bd is to
> lie about people, insult them and their family members, stalk
> them, attempt to solicit the private information of others.
In the emails I posted, you can clearly see BD tries to solicit
personal information almost off the bat. When he fails, he tries again.
He then provides sections of email from other people he's 'discussing'
me with. Seriously, BD isn't the person alot of people here think he
is. He's pondscum, like I've said all along
news:lvcdpb$o0n$3...@dont-email.me:
> And lets be honest here jackie, your style, and that of bd is to
> lie about people, insult them and their family members, stalk
> them, attempt to solicit the private information of others.
personal information almost off the bat. When he fails, he tries again.
He then provides sections of email from other people he's 'discussing'
me with. Seriously, BD isn't the person alot of people here think he
is. He's pondscum, like I've said all along
~BD~
Sep 17, 2014, 2:33:56 PM9/17/14
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Dustin wrote:
> ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:7fydncMpEuXHF4TJ...@bt.com:
>
>> Here's a good extract for Mike to read ......
>
> http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/david1.zip
>
> So you downloaded the .zip then and verified it's what I said it was?
> :)
>
>> I rest my case! :-)
>
> Not so fast though. As you full well know, I wrote those words while
> active in VX; a long long time ago. We discussed it infact, in the
> very emails you gave me permission to post. [g] It's all in the .zip
> file though. As you know. Your efforts to try and dodge things won't
> work now. Those emails are all public knowledge now. You can't
> pretend you didn't do this or try that anymore. Your own words have
> come back to haunt you.
>
> Others will find when they take the time to read the emails, that
> you've been libeling me for a long long time now and i'm not the evil
> person you're desperately trying to paint me as. If anything, those
> emails only boost my credibility concerning the things I've written
> about you. But, the emails have the ironic twist of hurting yours.
> they don't support the BS you've posted here. They support me. LOLZ.
>
> http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/david1.zip
You really are on a different planet, Dustin. <shakes head>
> ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:7fydncMpEuXHF4TJ...@bt.com:
>
>> Here's a good extract for Mike to read ......
>
> http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/david1.zip
>
> So you downloaded the .zip then and verified it's what I said it was?
> :)
>
>> I rest my case! :-)
>
> Not so fast though. As you full well know, I wrote those words while
> active in VX; a long long time ago. We discussed it infact, in the
> very emails you gave me permission to post. [g] It's all in the .zip
> file though. As you know. Your efforts to try and dodge things won't
> work now. Those emails are all public knowledge now. You can't
> pretend you didn't do this or try that anymore. Your own words have
> come back to haunt you.
>
> Others will find when they take the time to read the emails, that
> you've been libeling me for a long long time now and i'm not the evil
> person you're desperately trying to paint me as. If anything, those
> emails only boost my credibility concerning the things I've written
> about you. But, the emails have the ironic twist of hurting yours.
> they don't support the BS you've posted here. They support me. LOLZ.
>
> http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/david1.zip
You really should have READ those emails!
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 2:40:06 PM9/17/14
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~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:PtWdnb47Y5iLSYTJ...@bt.com:
Heh. I'm on Earth. and yourself?
> You really should have READ those emails!
I did. clearly. I responded to nearly all of them. You began riding
my ass because I was 'taking too long' to reply to you, remember?
Copped an attitude with me around that time; as if you expected me to
be at your beck and call or something. Rude fucker, and the emails
clearly show it. They show it all. Everything I've been posting about
you is true and your own emails back me up.
So are you confirming now that the .zip file really does contain what
I said? :) Did you just get caught lying about me again, David?
H0h0h0. You will never learn.
news:PtWdnb47Y5iLSYTJ...@bt.com:
> You really should have READ those emails!
my ass because I was 'taking too long' to reply to you, remember?
Copped an attitude with me around that time; as if you expected me to
be at your beck and call or something. Rude fucker, and the emails
clearly show it. They show it all. Everything I've been posting about
you is true and your own emails back me up.
So are you confirming now that the .zip file really does contain what
I said? :) Did you just get caught lying about me again, David?
H0h0h0. You will never learn.
Jax
Sep 17, 2014, 4:31:55 PM9/17/14
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SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in
news:lvcdn6$o0n$2...@dont-email.me:
Linda your views can hardly be seen as balanced. Don't forget that
we're aware you have some unresolved psychological issues. Let's say
no more.
--
Jax
news:lvcdn6$o0n$2...@dont-email.me:
we're aware you have some unresolved psychological issues. Let's say
no more.
--
Jax
~BD~
Sep 17, 2014, 5:44:24 PM9/17/14
to
SeaNymph wrote:
> On 9/17/2014 8:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:19:22 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
>>> give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
>>> deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
>>
>>> I rest my case! :-)
>>
>> I'm not sure I am following your logic, David. I criticized Dustin for
>> being needlessly cruel to you, and then you produce a quote (of yourself)
>> saying that people deserve to be treated as cruelly as possible.
>>
>> Am I mixing up attributions here?
>>
> I think what you're missing in the general scheme of things is the
> history between BD and Dustin, as well as between bd and a number of
> other posters.
>
> BD has a long history of insulting the family members of other posters,
> people who don't post in here. FYI, bd once didn't like the way I was
> posting and contacted my husband. The result of that was bd's name
> being added to a national security watch list.
Your claim was not substantiated by your own government department!
> On 9/17/2014 8:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:19:22 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
>>> give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
>>> deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
>>
>>> I rest my case! :-)
>>
>> I'm not sure I am following your logic, David. I criticized Dustin for
>> being needlessly cruel to you, and then you produce a quote (of yourself)
>> saying that people deserve to be treated as cruelly as possible.
>>
>> Am I mixing up attributions here?
>>
> I think what you're missing in the general scheme of things is the
> history between BD and Dustin, as well as between bd and a number of
> other posters.
>
> BD has a long history of insulting the family members of other posters,
> people who don't post in here. FYI, bd once didn't like the way I was
> posting and contacted my husband. The result of that was bd's name
> being added to a national security watch list.
http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/dhs-traveler-redress-inquiry-program-dhs-trip
> BD is also long been noted for his extreme cruelty to others, butting
> into their private business, bringing up painful memories of lost loved
> ones and making light of serious medical conditions.
> I am of the opinion that he is a cruel, heartless person, totally
> lacking in common sense, decency or the privacy of others. Frankly, I
> think he's simply reaping what he's sown.
I do believe you've got that arse about face!
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 6:02:18 PM9/17/14
to
~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:VeOdnRFQK4QmnYfJ...@bt.com:
> SeaNymph wrote:
>> On 9/17/2014 8:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:19:22 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you.
>>>> i don't give a damn about most people; people to me are
>>>> like insects, they deserve to be treated as cruely as I can
>>>> possibly treat them.
>>>
>>>> I rest my case! :-)
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I am following your logic, David. I criticized
>>> Dustin for being needlessly cruel to you, and then you produce a
>>> quote (of yourself) saying that people deserve to be treated as
>>> cruelly as possible.
>>>
>>> Am I mixing up attributions here?
>>>
>> I think what you're missing in the general scheme of things is
>> the history between BD and Dustin, as well as between bd and a
>> number of other posters.
>>
>> BD has a long history of insulting the family members of other
>> posters, people who don't post in here. FYI, bd once didn't like
>> the way I was posting and contacted my husband. The result of
>> that was bd's name being added to a national security watch list.
>
> Your claim was not substantiated by your own government
> department!
What nonsense is that for an excuse? You don't deny you placed a call
to her husband do you? Do you think that, as a non-American, The
United States government would just tell you "you're on a watch
list"? I suppose you assume that they have a centralized index and
could just do a quick search on your name to answer the question, eh?
How idiotic.
BD, you shouldn't have responded to her reply in this case. You give
more credibility (not less, oh far from it) to her statement.
> http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/dhs-traveler-redress-inquir
know about you. I'm sure I wasn't the only one you've emailed like
that; asking the types of questions you did.
I suspect some others you've been emailing will be taking a very
close look at those emails to see if you're upto no good with them.
Based on your emails, I'd say it's a very good bet you've been at
this 'game' a long time now. I don't pretend to assume that everyone
will smarten up and check you out, I've no doubt in my mind you'll
always have some less than average intelligence persons believing
every single word you say; Religion depends on it highly.
Technology is like magic to you and you seek the assistance of
others; but you seek to use those people. It's not knowledge you
want. It's payback. It's the ability to harm other people you think
have done you wrong at some point.
>> I am of the opinion that he is a cruel, heartless person, totally
>> lacking in common sense, decency or the privacy of others.
>> Frankly, I think he's simply reaping what he's sown.
>
> You are wrong again, SeaNymph. How does that make you feel?
Nope. I disagree with you. She isn't wrong. I know from first hand
prior experience with you myself. What she wrote is exactly what you
do. You have no common sense (or you ignore it for online activities
to serve your goals), no concept of decency, and you sure as fuck
don't respect anyones privacy. You think it's your god given right
that if you ask a question, you deserve an answer.
You already begun to get an attitude with me in the initial emails;
you decided I wasn't asking how high I should be jumping when you
said to jump. You're pondscum. Nothing more.
> I do believe you've got that arse about face!
Believe whatever you like. Stupidity suits you well.
news:VeOdnRFQK4QmnYfJ...@bt.com:
> SeaNymph wrote:
>> On 9/17/2014 8:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:19:22 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you.
>>>> i don't give a damn about most people; people to me are
>>>> like insects, they deserve to be treated as cruely as I can
>>>> possibly treat them.
>>>
>>>> I rest my case! :-)
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I am following your logic, David. I criticized
>>> Dustin for being needlessly cruel to you, and then you produce a
>>> quote (of yourself) saying that people deserve to be treated as
>>> cruelly as possible.
>>>
>>> Am I mixing up attributions here?
>>>
>> I think what you're missing in the general scheme of things is
>> the history between BD and Dustin, as well as between bd and a
>> number of other posters.
>>
>> BD has a long history of insulting the family members of other
>> posters, people who don't post in here. FYI, bd once didn't like
>> the way I was posting and contacted my husband. The result of
>> that was bd's name being added to a national security watch list.
>
> Your claim was not substantiated by your own government
> department!
to her husband do you? Do you think that, as a non-American, The
United States government would just tell you "you're on a watch
list"? I suppose you assume that they have a centralized index and
could just do a quick search on your name to answer the question, eh?
How idiotic.
BD, you shouldn't have responded to her reply in this case. You give
more credibility (not less, oh far from it) to her statement.
> http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/dhs-traveler-redress-inquir
> y-program-dhs-trip
>
>> BD is also long been noted for his extreme cruelty to others,
>> butting into their private business, bringing up painful memories
>> of lost loved ones and making light of serious medical
>> conditions.
>
> You will have to cite actual cases if you want to convince
> newcomers, SN.
If they read our email correspondence, they'll learn all they need to
>
>> BD is also long been noted for his extreme cruelty to others,
>> butting into their private business, bringing up painful memories
>> of lost loved ones and making light of serious medical
>> conditions.
>
> You will have to cite actual cases if you want to convince
> newcomers, SN.
know about you. I'm sure I wasn't the only one you've emailed like
that; asking the types of questions you did.
I suspect some others you've been emailing will be taking a very
close look at those emails to see if you're upto no good with them.
Based on your emails, I'd say it's a very good bet you've been at
this 'game' a long time now. I don't pretend to assume that everyone
will smarten up and check you out, I've no doubt in my mind you'll
always have some less than average intelligence persons believing
every single word you say; Religion depends on it highly.
Technology is like magic to you and you seek the assistance of
others; but you seek to use those people. It's not knowledge you
want. It's payback. It's the ability to harm other people you think
have done you wrong at some point.
>> I am of the opinion that he is a cruel, heartless person, totally
>> lacking in common sense, decency or the privacy of others.
>> Frankly, I think he's simply reaping what he's sown.
>
> You are wrong again, SeaNymph. How does that make you feel?
prior experience with you myself. What she wrote is exactly what you
do. You have no common sense (or you ignore it for online activities
to serve your goals), no concept of decency, and you sure as fuck
don't respect anyones privacy. You think it's your god given right
that if you ask a question, you deserve an answer.
You already begun to get an attitude with me in the initial emails;
you decided I wasn't asking how high I should be jumping when you
said to jump. You're pondscum. Nothing more.
> I do believe you've got that arse about face!
SeaNymph
Sep 17, 2014, 7:42:20 PM9/17/14
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provide verifiable facts to back up your slime, remember, you prefer to
deal in facts. So, lets see them.
My opinion of bd is not your concern, since you are nothing more than
his minion. My opinion is based on HIS actions and words.
SeaNymph
Sep 17, 2014, 7:43:27 PM9/17/14
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On 9/17/2014 4:44 PM, ~BD~ wrote:
> SeaNymph wrote:
>> On 9/17/2014 8:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:19:22 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
>>>> give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
>>>> deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
>>>
>>>> I rest my case! :-)
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I am following your logic, David. I criticized Dustin for
>>> being needlessly cruel to you, and then you produce a quote (of
>>> yourself)
>>> saying that people deserve to be treated as cruelly as possible.
>>>
>>> Am I mixing up attributions here?
>>>
>> I think what you're missing in the general scheme of things is the
>> history between BD and Dustin, as well as between bd and a number of
>> other posters.
>>
>> BD has a long history of insulting the family members of other posters,
>> people who don't post in here. FYI, bd once didn't like the way I was
>> posting and contacted my husband. The result of that was bd's name
>> being added to a national security watch list.
>
> Your claim was not substantiated by your own government department!
>
> http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/dhs-traveler-redress-inquiry-program-dhs-trip
ROFL...jeez you're a doofus.
> SeaNymph wrote:
>> On 9/17/2014 8:49 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:19:22 +0100, ~BD~ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
>>>> give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
>>>> deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
>>>
>>>> I rest my case! :-)
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I am following your logic, David. I criticized Dustin for
>>> being needlessly cruel to you, and then you produce a quote (of
>>> yourself)
>>> saying that people deserve to be treated as cruelly as possible.
>>>
>>> Am I mixing up attributions here?
>>>
>> I think what you're missing in the general scheme of things is the
>> history between BD and Dustin, as well as between bd and a number of
>> other posters.
>>
>> BD has a long history of insulting the family members of other posters,
>> people who don't post in here. FYI, bd once didn't like the way I was
>> posting and contacted my husband. The result of that was bd's name
>> being added to a national security watch list.
>
> Your claim was not substantiated by your own government department!
>
> http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/dhs-traveler-redress-inquiry-program-dhs-trip
>
>
>> BD is also long been noted for his extreme cruelty to others, butting
>> into their private business, bringing up painful memories of lost loved
>> ones and making light of serious medical conditions.
>
> You will have to cite actual cases if you want to convince newcomers, SN.
provide some upon request.
>
>> I am of the opinion that he is a cruel, heartless person, totally
>> lacking in common sense, decency or the privacy of others. Frankly, I
>> think he's simply reaping what he's sown.
>
> You are wrong again, SeaNymph. How does that make you feel?
>
SeaNymph
Sep 17, 2014, 7:45:13 PM9/17/14
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required, immediately turned over to the security team that monitored
the projects. That's how it happened, but then, I warned him.
SeaNymph
Sep 17, 2014, 7:46:32 PM9/17/14
to
like, especially when you're trying to lie about someone and trying to
make yourself out to be innocent.
Dustin
Sep 17, 2014, 10:47:39 PM9/17/14
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SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in
news:lvd6dn$9f7$6...@dont-email.me:
> BD sent an email. That email, coming from an unknown foreigner
> was, as required, immediately turned over to the security team
> that monitored the projects. That's how it happened, but then, I
> warned him.
hahahahah... I completely understand. He really *doesn't learn* He's
always assuming people are BSing him, until they've had enough and
things happen that he really doesn't want to have happen. heh heh.
He sends all kinds of crazy emails to people, btw. I've been given
copies of several from various walks of life that he's been in contact
with. I might release them too, at a later date... he's far lower than
I previously thought. The things he tries to make happen via email make
me want to puke.
news:lvd6dn$9f7$6...@dont-email.me:
> BD sent an email. That email, coming from an unknown foreigner
> was, as required, immediately turned over to the security team
> that monitored the projects. That's how it happened, but then, I
> warned him.
always assuming people are BSing him, until they've had enough and
things happen that he really doesn't want to have happen. heh heh.
He sends all kinds of crazy emails to people, btw. I've been given
copies of several from various walks of life that he's been in contact
with. I might release them too, at a later date... he's far lower than
I previously thought. The things he tries to make happen via email make
me want to puke.
OG38
Sep 17, 2014, 10:58:46 PM9/17/14
to
On 09/17/2014 09:47 PM, Dustin wrote:
> SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in
> news:lvd6dn$9f7$6...@dont-email.me:
>
>> BD sent an email. That email, coming from an unknown foreigner
>> was, as required, immediately turned over to the security team
>> that monitored the projects. That's how it happened, but then, I
>> warned him.
>
> hahahahah... I completely understand. He really *doesn't learn* He's
> always assuming people are BSing him, until they've had enough and
> things happen that he really doesn't want to have happen. heh heh.
>
> He sends all kinds of crazy emails to people, btw. I've been given
> copies of several from various walks of life that he's been in contact
> with. I might release them too, at a later date... he's far lower than
> I previously thought. The things he tries to make happen via email make
> me want to puke.
>
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Same Here. :) I'm inclined to believe he has an inferiority complex,
> SeaNymph <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in
> news:lvd6dn$9f7$6...@dont-email.me:
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>> BD sent an email. That email, coming from an unknown foreigner
>> was, as required, immediately turned over to the security team
>> that monitored the projects. That's how it happened, but then, I
>> warned him.
>
> hahahahah... I completely understand. He really *doesn't learn* He's
> always assuming people are BSing him, until they've had enough and
> things happen that he really doesn't want to have happen. heh heh.
>
> He sends all kinds of crazy emails to people, btw. I've been given
> copies of several from various walks of life that he's been in contact
> with. I might release them too, at a later date... he's far lower than
> I previously thought. The things he tries to make happen via email make
> me want to puke.
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and that being the reason for some of the shenanigans he pulls.
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"~BD~" <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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Your claim was not substantiated by your own government department!
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Then try to fly to the USofA.
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