Re: The "Religion of Peace"?
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
muslims are jerks
DCI
You are a bigot!
DCI
Ron Olin
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> nuke the damn scum, the only good muslim is a DEAD muslim
>
> muslims are jerks
And Christians aren't?
Jim E
Jim E
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Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder, mayhem,
terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
As opposed to the mooslime savages of the world.
Jim E
Joseph Welch
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> nuke the damn scum, the only good muslim is a DEAD muslim
>
> muslims are jerks
"Islam is a religion of peace."
-George W. Bush
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
Joseph Welch
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> Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder, mayhem,
> terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
How much time ya' got?
Joseph Welch
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
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> Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder, mayhem,
> terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
http://www.geocities.com/iconoclastes.geo/victims.html
Ancient Pagans
As soon as Christianity became legal in the Roman Empire by imperial edict
(315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan
priests were killed.
Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the
Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were
famous as "temple destroyer." [DA468]
Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468]
Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because
they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]
According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian
teachings..."
In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand
of Christian authorities. [DA466]
The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces
with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian
minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.
Mission
Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to
Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]
Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes:
between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near
Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]
15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights
of the Order. Number of victims unknown. [DO30]
16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized"
Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without
any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle,
women, children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers,
a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that
"the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed
in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied
on the ground by eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish
indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of
their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the
grounde".
Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [SH99, 225]
Crusades (1095-1291)
First Crusade: 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41]
Semlin/Hungary 6/24/96 thousands slain. Wieselburg/Hungary 6/12/96
thousands. [WW23]
9/9/96-9/26/96 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then Turkish), thousands respectively.
[WW25-27]
Until January 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered
(number of slain unknown) [WW30]
After 6/3/98 Antiochia (then Turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000
slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women and children) killed. [WW32-35]
Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's]
tents - save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to
Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60]
Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/98 thousands killed. Because of the subsequent
famine "the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by the
Christians" said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36]
Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (Jewish, Muslim, men,
women, children). [WW37-40]
In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such
a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes",
and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our
Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude."
The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon
the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of
human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain.
It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn
in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still
more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with
blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who
met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten
thousand infidels perished." [TG79]
Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer
in all of Palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition".
One million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41]
Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of
Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45]
Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown,
numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148]
Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20
million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone). [WW224]
Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers.
Heretics and Atheists
Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six
followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany [DO26]
Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth
control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was
exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E.
and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims. [NC]
Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. [DO29]
The Albigensians (Cathars) viewed themselves as good Christians, but would
not accept Roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control.
[NC]
Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (the greatest single mass
murderer prior to the Nazi era) in 1209. Beziérs (today France) 7/22/1209
destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Number of victims
(including Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbors and
friends) estimated between 20,000-70,000. [WW179-181]
Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed. [WW181]
Subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half the
population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were exterminated.
[WW183]
After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and
destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324.
[WW183]
Estimated one million victims (Cathar heresy alone), [WW183]
Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and many
others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some Waldensians live
today, yet they had to endure 600 years of persecution) I estimate at least
hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding
victims in the New World).
Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada, a former Dominican friar, allegedly was
responsible for 10,220 burnings. [DO28]
John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at
the stake in 1415. [LI475-522]
Michael Sattler, leader of a baptist community, was burned at the stake in
Rottenburg, Germany, May 20, 1527. Several days later his wife and other
follwers were also executed. [KM]
University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in Vienna. [DO59]
Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for seven
years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori (Rome) on
2/17/1600.
Thomas Aikenhead, a twenty-year-old scottish student of Edinburgh
University, was hanged for atheism and blasphemy.
Witches
From the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several
thousand.
In the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several
hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged. [WV]
Incomplete list of documented cases:
The Burning of Witches - A Chronicle of the Burning Times
Religious Wars
15th century: Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain. [DO30]
1538 pope Paul III declared Crusade against apostate England and all English
as slaves of Church (fortunately had not power to go into action). [DO31]
1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million rebels
in (then Spanish) Netherlands. [DO31]
Between 5000 and 6000 Protestants were drowned by Spanish Catholic Troops,
"a disaster the burghers of Emden first realized when several thousand
broad-brimmed Dutch hats floated by." [SH216]
1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope Pius V.
Until 17th century 200,000 flee. [DO31]
17th century: Catholics slay Gaspard de Coligny, a Protestant leader. After
murdering him, the Catholic mob mutilated his body, "cutting off his head,
his hands, and his genitals... and then dumped him into the river [...but]
then, deciding that it was not worthy of being food for the fish, they
hauled it out again [... and] dragged what was left ... to the gallows of
Montfaulcon, 'to be meat and carrion for maggots and crows'." [SH191]
17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000
Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found
beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the
breasts of their lifeless mothers." [SH191]
17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of
population decimated, mostly in Germany. [DO31-32]
Jews
Already in the 4th and 5th centuries synagogues were burned by Christians.
Number of Jews slain unknown.
In the middle of the fourth century the first synagogue was destroyed on
command of bishop Innocentius of Dertona in Northern Italy. The first
synagogue known to have been burned down was near the river Euphrat, on
command of the bishop of Kallinikon in the year 388. [DA450]
694 17. Council of Toledo: Jews were enslaved, their property confiscated,
and their children forcibly baptized. [DA454]
1010 The Bishop of Limoges (France) had the cities' Jews, who would not
convert to Christianity, expelled or killed. [DA453]
1096 First Crusade: Thousands of Jews slaughtered, maybe 12.000 total.
Places: Worms 5/18/1096, Mainz 5/27/1096 (1100 persons), Cologne, Neuss,
Altenahr, Wevelinghoven, Xanten, Moers, Dortmund, Kerpen, Trier, Metz,
Regensburg, Prag and others (All locations Germany except Metz/France,
Prag/Czech) [EJ]
1147 Second Crusade: Several hundred Jews were slain in Ham, Sully,
Carentan, and Rameru (all locations in France). [WW57]
1189/90 Third Crusade: English Jewish communities sacked. [DO40]
1235, Fulda/Germany: 34 Jewish men and women slain. [DO41]
1257, 1267: Jewish communities of London, Canterbury, Northampton, Lincoln,
Cambridge, and others exterminated. [DO41]
1290 Bohemia (Poland) allegedly 10,000 Jews killed. [DO41]
1337 Starting in Deggendorf/Germany a Jew-killing craze reaches 51 towns in
Bavaria, Austria, Poland. [DO41]
1348 All Jews of Basel/Switzerland and Strasbourg/France (two thousand)
burned. [DO41]
1349 In more than 350 towns in Germany all Jews murdered, mostly burned
alive (in this one year more Jews were killed than Christians in 200 years
of ancient Roman persecution of Christians). [DO42]
1389 In Prag 3,000 Jews were slaughtered. [DO42]
1391 Seville's Jews killed (Archbishop Martinez leading). 4,000 were slain,
25,000 sold as slaves. [DA454] Their identification was made easy by the
brightly colored "badges of shame" that all Jews above the age of ten had
been forced to wear.
1492 In the year Columbus set sail to conquer a New World, more than 150,000
Jews were expelled from Spain, many died on their way: 6/30/1492.
[MM470-476]
1648 Chmielnitzki massacres: In Poland about 200,000 Jews were slain. [DO43]
Native Peoples
Beginning with Columbus (a former slave trader and would-be Holy Crusader)
the conquest of the New World began, as usual understood as a means to
propagate Christianity.
Within hours of landfall on the first inhabited island he encountered in the
Caribbean, Columbus seized and carried off six native people who, he said,
"ought to be good servants ... [and] would easily be made Christians,
because it seemed to me that they belonged to no religion." [SH200]
While Columbus described the Indians as "idolators" and "slaves, as many as
[the Crown] shall order," his pal Michele de Cuneo, Italian nobleman,
referred to the natives as "beasts" because "they eat when they are hungry,"
and made love "openly whenever they feel like it." [SH204-205]
On every island he set foot on, Columbus planted a cross, "making the
declarations that are required" - the requerimiento - to claim the ownership
for his Catholic patrons in Spain. And "nobody objected." If the Indians
refused or delayed their acceptance (or understanding), the requerimiento
continued:
"I certify to you that, with the help of God, we shall powerfully enter in
your country and shall make war against you ... and shall subject you to the
yoke and obedience of the Church ... and shall do you all mischief that we
can, as to vassals who do not obey and refuse to receive their lord and
resist and contradict him." [SH66]
Likewise in the words of John Winthrop, first governor of Massachusetts Bay
Colony: "justifieinge the undertakeres of the intended Plantation in New
England ... to carry the Gospell into those parts of the world, ... and to
raise a Bulworke against the kingdome of the Ante-Christ." [SH235]
In average two thirds of the native population were killed by
colonist-imported smallpox before violence began. This was a great sign of
"the marvelous goodness and providence of God" to the Christians of course,
e.g. the Governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony wrote in 1634, as "for the
natives, they are near all dead of the smallpox, so as the Lord hath cleared
our title to what we possess." [SH109,238]
On Hispaniola alone, on Columbus visits, the native population (Arawak), a
rather harmless and happy people living on an island of abundant natural
resources, a literal paradise, soon mourned 50,000 dead. [SH204]
The surviving Indians fell victim to rape, murder, enslavement and Spanish
raids.
As one of the culprits wrote: "So many Indians died that they could not be
counted, all through the land the Indians lay dead everywhere. The stench
was very great and pestiferous." [SH69]
The Indian chief Hatuey fled with his people but was captured and burned
alive. As "they were tying him to the stake a Franciscan friar urged him to
take Jesus to his heart so that his soul might go to heaven, rather than
descend into hell. Hatuey replied that if heaven was where the Christians
went, he would rather go to hell." [SH70]
What happened to his people was described by an eyewitness:
"The Spaniards found pleasure in inventing all kinds of odd cruelties ...
They built a long gibbet, long enough for the toes to touch the ground to
prevent strangling, and hanged thirteen [natives] at a time in honor of
Christ Our Saviour and the twelve Apostles... then, straw was wrapped around
their torn bodies and they were burned alive." [SH72]
Or, on another occasion:
"The Spaniards cut off the arm of one, the leg or hip of another, and from
some their heads at one stroke, like butchers cutting up beef and mutton for
market. Six hundred, including the cacique, were thus slain like brute
beasts...Vasco [de Balboa] ordered forty of them to be torn to pieces by
dogs." [SH83]
The "island's population of about eight million people at the time of
Columbus's arrival in 1492 already had declined by a third to a half before
the year 1496 was out." Eventually all the island's natives were
exterminated, so the Spaniards were "forced" to import slaves from other
caribbean islands, who soon suffered the same fate. Thus "the Caribbean's
millions of native people [were] thereby effectively liquidated in barely a
quarter of a century". [SH72-73] "In less than the normal lifetime of a
single human being, an entire culture of millions of people, thousands of
years resident in their homeland, had been exterminated." [SH75]
"And then the Spanish turned their attention to the mainland of Mexico and
Central America. The slaughter had barely begun. The exquisite city of
Tenochtitlán [Mexico city] was next." [SH75]
Cortez, Pizarro, De Soto and hundreds of other Spanish conquistadors
likewise sacked southern and mesoamerican civilizations in the name of
Christ (De Soto also sacked Florida).
"When the 16th century ended, some 200,000 Spaniards had moved to the
Americas. By that time probably more than 60,000,000 natives were dead."
[SH95]
Of course no different were the founders of what today is the US of America.
Although none of the settlers would have survived winter without native
help, they soon set out to expel and exterminate the Indians. Warfare among
(north American) Indians was rather harmless, in comparison to European
standards, and was meant to avenge insults rather than conquer land. In the
words of some of the pilgrim fathers: "Their Warres are farre less
bloudy...", so that there usually was "no great slawter of nether side".
Indeed, "they might fight seven yeares and not kill seven men." What is
more, the Indians usually spared women and children. [SH111]
In the spring of 1612 some English colonists found life among the (generally
friendly and generous) natives attractive enough to leave Jamestown - "being
idell ... did runne away unto the Indyans," - to live among them (that
probably solved a sex problem).
"Governor Thomas Dale had them hunted down and executed: 'Some he apointed
(sic) to be hanged Some burned Some to be broken upon wheles, others to be
staked and some shott to deathe'." [SH105] Of course these elegant measures
were restricted for fellow Englishmen: "This was the treatment for those who
wished to act like Indians. For those who had no choice in the matter,
because they were the native people of Virginia" methods were different:
"when an Indian was accused by an Englishman of stealing a cup and failing
to return it, the English response was to attack the natives in force,
burning the entire community" down. [SH105]
On the territory that is now Massachusetts the founding fathers of the
colonies were committing genocide, in what has become known as the "Peqout
War." The killers were New England Puritan Christians, refugees from
persecution in their own home country England.
When however, a dead colonist was found, apparently killed by Narragansett
Indians, the Puritan colonists wanted revenge. Despite the Indian chief's
pledge they attacked.
Somehow they seem to have lost the idea of what they were after, because
when they were greeted by Pequot Indians (long-time foes of the
Narragansetts) the troops nevertheless made war on the Pequots and burned
their villages.
The puritan commander-in-charge John Mason after one massacre wrote: "And
indeed such a dreadful Terror did the Almighty let fall upon their Spirits,
that they would fly from us and run into the very Flames, where many of them
perished ... God was above them, who laughed his Enemies and the Enemies of
his People to Scorn, making them as a fiery Oven ... Thus did the Lord judge
among the Heathen, filling the Place with dead Bodies": men, women,
children. [SH113-114]
So "the Lord was pleased to smite our Enemies in the hinder Parts, and to
give us their land for an inheritance". [SH111].
Because of his readers' assumed knowledge of Deuteronomy, there was no need
for Mason to quote the words that immediately follow:
"Thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. But thou shalt utterly
destroy them..." (Deut 20)
Mason's comrade Underhill recalled how "great and doleful was the bloody
sight to the view of the young soldiers" yet reassured his readers that
"sometimes the Scripture declareth women and children must perish with their
parents". [SH114]
Other Indians were killed in successful plots of poisoning. The colonists
even had dogs especially trained to kill Indians and to devour children from
their mothers breasts, in the colonists' own words: "blood Hounds to draw
after them, and Mastives to seaze them." (This was inspired by Spanish
methods of the time)
In this way they continued until the extermination of the Pequots was near.
[SH107-119]
The surviving handful of Indians "were parceled out to live in servitude.
John Endicott and his pastor wrote to the governor asking for 'a share' of
the captives, specifically 'a young woman or girle and a boy if you thinke
good'." [SH115]
Other tribes were to follow the same path.
Comment the Christian exterminators: "God's Will, which will at last give us
cause to say: How Great is His Goodness! and How Great is his Beauty!"
"Thus doth the Lord Jesus make them to bow before him, and to lick the
Dust!" [TA]
Like today, lying was morally acceptable to Christians then. "Peace treaties
were signed with every intention to violate them: when the Indians 'grow
secure uppon (sic) the treatie', advised the Council of State in Virginia,
'we shall have the better Advantage both to surprise them, & cutt downe
theire Corne'." [SH106]
In 1624 sixty heavily armed Englishmen cut down 800 defenseless Indian men,
women and children. [SH107]
In a single massacre in "King Philip's War" of 1675 and 1676 some "600
Indians were destroyed. A delighted Cotton Mather, revered pastor of the
Second Church in Boston, later referred to the slaughter as a 'barbeque'."
[SH115]
To summarize: Before the arrival of the English, the western Abenaki people
in New Hampshire and Vermont had numbered 12,000. Less than half a century
later about 250 remained alive - a destruction rate of 98%. The Pocumtuck
people had numbered more than 18,000, fifty years later they were down to
920 - 95% destroyed. The Quiripi-Unquachog people had numbered about 30,000,
fifty years later they were down to 1500 - 95% destroyed. The Massachusetts
people had numbered at least 44,000, fifty years later barely 6000 were
alive - 81% destroyed. [SH118] These are only a few examples of the
multitude of tribes living before Christian colonists set their foot on the
New World. All this was before the smallpox epidemics of 1677 and 1678 had
occurred. And the carnage was not over then.
All the above was only the beginning of the European colonization, it was
before the frontier age actually had begun.
A total of maybe more than 150 million Indians (of both Americas) were
destroyed in the period of 1500 to 1900, as an average two thirds by
smallpox and other epidemics, that leaves some 50 million killed directly by
violence, bad treatment and slavery.
In many countries, such as Brazil, and Guatemala, this continues even today.
More Glorious Events in U.S. History
Reverend Solomon Stoddard, one of New England's most esteemed religious
leaders, in "1703 formally proposed to the Massachusetts Governor that the
colonists be given the financial wherewithal to purchase and train large
packs of dogs 'to hunt Indians as they do bears'." [SH241]
Massacre of Sand Creek, Colorado 11/29/1864. Colonel John Chivington, a
former Methodist minister and still elder in the church ("I long to be
wading in gore") had a Cheyenne village of about 600, mostly women and
children, gunned down despite the chiefs' waving with a white flag: 400-500
killed.
From an eye-witness account: "There were some thirty or forty squaws
collected in a hole for protection; they sent out a little girl about six
years old with a white flag on a stick; she had not proceeded but a few
steps when she was shot and killed. All the squaws in that hole were
afterwards killed ..." [SH131]
More gory details.
By the 1860s, "in Hawai'i the Reverend Rufus Anderson surveyed the carnage
that by then had reduced those islands' native population by 90 percent or
more, and he declined to see it as tragedy; the expected total die-off of
the Hawaiian population was only natural, this missionary said, somewhat
equivalent to 'the amputation of diseased members of the body'." [SH244]
20th Century Church Atrocities
Catholic extermination camps
Surprisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by
no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in
Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under
their dictator Ante Paveliç, a practicing Catholic and regular visitor to
the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children!
In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan
friar - orthodox-Christian Serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were
murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns,
alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But
most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number
of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny
country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were
appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdienst der
SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The
pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]
Catholic terror in Vietnam
In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated
the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been
supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the
victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-Buddhist Vietnamese
were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many
Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington
and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later
on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was
concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the
communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic
Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff]
Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was
given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or
had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The
only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism.
The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American
counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read:
"Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common
security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp."
Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of Buddhist protesters and monks
were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of Buddhist
teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and
burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison
Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which
in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as
well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during
this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in
street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or
tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps.
[MW76-89].
To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American
GI's lost their life.
Christianity kills the cat
On July 1, 1976, Anneliese Michel, a 23-year-old student of a teachers
college in Germany, died: she starved herself to death. For months she had
been haunted by demonic visions and apparitions, and for months two Catholic
priests - with explicit approval of the Catholic bishop of Würzburg -
additionally pestered and tormented the wretched girl with their exorcist
rituals. After her death in Klingenberg hospital - her body was littered
with wounds - her parents, both of them fanatical Catholics, were sentenced
to six months for not having called for medical help. None of the priests
was punished: on the contrary, Miss Michel's grave today is a place of
pilgrimage and worship for a number of similarly faithful Catholics (in the
seventeenth century Würzburg was notorious for it's extensive witch
burnings).
This case is only the tip of an iceberg of such evil superstition and has
become known only because of its lethal outcome. [SP80]
Rwanda Massacres
In 1994 in the small African country of Rwanda in just a few months several
hundred thousand civilians were butchered, apparently a conflict of the Hutu
and Tutsi ethnic groups.
For quite some time I heard only rumors about Catholic clergy actively
involved in the 1994 Rwanda massacres. Odd denials of involvement were
printed in Catholic church journals, before even anybody had openly accused
members of the church.
Then, 10/10/96, in the newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany - a station not at
all critical to Christianity - the following was stated:
"Anglican as well as Catholic priests and nuns are suspect of having
actively participated in murders. Especially the conduct of a certain
Catholic priest has been occupying the public mind in Rwanda's capital
Kigali for months. He was minister of the church of the Holy Family and
allegedly murdered Tutsis in the most brutal manner. He is reported to have
accompanied marauding Hutu militia with a gun in his cowl. In fact there has
been a bloody slaughter of Tutsis seeking shelter in his parish. Even two
years after the massacres many Catholics refuse to set foot on the threshold
of their church, because to them the participation of a certain part of the
clergy in the slaughter is well established. There is almost no church in
Rwanda that has not seen refugees - women, children, old - being brutally
butchered facing the crucifix.
According to eyewitnesses clergymen gave away hiding Tutsis and turned them
over to the machetes of the Hutu militia.
In connection with these events again and again two Benedictine nuns are
mentioned, both of whom have fled into a Belgian monastery in the meantime
to avoid prosecution. According to survivors one of them called the Hutu
killers and led them to several thousand people who had sought shelter in
her monastery. By force the doomed were driven out of the churchyard and
were murdered in the presence of the nun right in front of the gate. The
other one is also reported to have directly cooperated with the murderers of
the Hutu militia. In her case again witnesses report that she watched the
slaughtering of people in cold blood and without showing response. She is
even accused of having procured some petrol used by the killers to set on
fire and burn their victims alive..." [S2]
More recently the BBC aired:
Priests get death sentence for Rwandan genocide
BBC NEWS April 19, 1998
A court in Rwanda has sentenced two Roman Catholic priests to death for
their role in the genocide of 1994, in which up to a million Tutsis and
moderate Hutus were killed. Pope John Paul said the priests must be made to
account for their actions. Different sections of the Rwandan church have
been widely accused of playing an active role in the genocide of 1994...
References
[DA]
K.Deschner, Abermals krähte der Hahn, Stuttgart 1962.
[DO]
K.Deschner, Opus Diaboli, Reinbek 1987.
[EC]
P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement, Cardiff Univ. Press 1985.
[EJ]
S.Eidelberg, The Jews and the Crusaders, Madison 1977.
[HA]
Hunter, M., Wootton, D., Atheism from the Reformation to the Enlightenment,
Oxford 1992.
[KM]
Schröder-Kappus, E., Wagner, W., Michael Sattler. Ein Märtyrer in
Rottenburg, Tübingen, TVT Media 1992.
[LI]
H.C.Lea, The Inquisition of the Middle Ages, New York 1961.
[MM]
M.Margolis, A.Marx, A History of the Jewish People.
[MV]
A.Manhattan, The Vatican's Holocaust, Springfield 1986.
See also V.Dedijer, The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican, Buffalo NY,
1992.
[NC]
J.T.Noonan, Contraception: A History of its Treatment by the Catholic
Theologians and Canonists, Cambridge/Mass., 1992.
[S2]
Newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany, 10/10/96, 12:00.
[SH]
D.Stannard, American Holocaust, Oxford University Press 1992.
[SP]
German news magazine Der Spiegel, no.49, 12/2/1996.
[TA]
A True Account of the Most Considerable Occurrences that have Hapned in the
Warre Between the English and the Indians in New England, London 1676.
[TG]
F.Turner, Beyond Geography, New York 1980.
[WW]
H.Wollschläger: Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen Jerusalem, Zürich 1973.
(This is in german and what is worse, it is out of print. But it is the best
I ever read about crusades and includes a full list of original medieval
Christian chroniclers' writings).
[WV]
Estimates on the number of executed witches:
N.Cohn, Europe's Inner Demons: An Enquiry Inspired by the Great Witch Hunt,
Frogmore 1976, 253.
R.H.Robbins, The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Demonology, New York 1959,
180.
J.B.Russell, Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Ithaca/NY 1972, 39.
H.Zwetsloot, Friedrich Spee und die Hexenprozesse, Trier 1954, 56.
Jim E
"Joseph Welch" <seattled...@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> news:44qkqdF...@individual.net...
>
>> Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder, mayhem,
>> terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
>
> How much time ya' got?
>
List two incidents of mass murder done by a christian militant organization
in the last fifty years.
Note , organized religious effort, not some Mc veigh
twit .
Jim E
Jim E
>
> "Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> news:44qkqdF...@individual.net...
>
>> Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder, mayhem,
>> terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/iconoclastes.geo/victims.html
>
> Ancient Pagans
>
Note idiot.
Let's try to be a bit contemporaneous.
Say in the past fifty years.
Try to match the blood and gore of the mooslime hoards in the last fifty
years with similar christian hoards.
Try again bonzo.
Jim E
Jim E
>
> "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <kil...@killgod.com> wrote in message
> news:yXQFf.14248$vU2....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
>> nuke the damn scum, the only good muslim is a DEAD muslim
>>
>> muslims are jerks
>
> "Islam is a religion of peace."
> -George W. Bush
>
If he'd said what he felt your brains would have run out your ears.
The most common sentiment toward the slimes seems to be
Nuke the bastards.
Jim E
Angry Dave
Hit him again, Jo... I like to watch him twitch.
Malto
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
>
> "Joseph Welch" <seattled...@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
> news:AUVFf.82$371...@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
> >
> > "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <kil...@killgod.com> wrote in message
> > news:yXQFf.14248$vU2....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> >
> >> nuke the damn scum, the only good muslim is a DEAD muslim
> >>
> >> muslims are jerks
> >
> > "Islam is a religion of peace."
> > -George W. Bush
> >
>
>
> If he'd said what he felt your brains would have run out your ears.
Do you have sexual fantasies about the chimp as well?
Malto
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
>
> "Joseph Welch" <seattled...@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
> news:3VVFf.83$371...@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
> >
> > "Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> > news:44qkqdF...@individual.net...
> >
> >> Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder,
mayhem,
> >> terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
> >
> > How much time ya' got?
> >
>
>
> List two incidents of mass murder done by a christian militant
organization
> in the last fifty years.
Christianity has a long and bloody history, you stupid piece of shit.
Go do some research, hypocrite.
Malto
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
>
> "Joseph Welch" <seattled...@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
> news:9_VFf.84$371...@fe04.buzzardnews.com...
> >
> > "Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> > news:44qkqdF...@individual.net...
> >
> >> Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder,
mayhem,
> >> terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/iconoclastes.geo/victims.html
> >
> > Ancient Pagans
> >
>
>
> Note idiot.
>
> Let's try to be a bit contemporaneous.
>
You said "centuries, dickhead.
LOL! What a patethic, feeble-minded little cretin you are.
Jafo
>Muslim Riots Break Out in Denmark As Well
>19:26 Nov 06, '05 / 4 Cheshvan 5766
>
>(IsraelNN.com) As Muslim riots spread across France, Denmark is also
>beginning to see its own Islamic Intifada. In Arhus, Denmark, young
>Muslims were heard chanting, "This land belongs to us!"
>
>A masked spokesman for the rioters told Danish reporters that Muslims
>were tired of being oppressed and harassed and warned the police to
>stay away. "This is our area. We rule this place," he said.
>
>The riots have increased following a cartoon in Danish paper The
>Jyllands Pos involving Mohammed. Rocks and firebombs have become
>commonplace in many neighborhoods and firefighters are afraid to enter
>them to put out the fires.
The followers of Islam represent a failed culture.
--
Jafo
Jafo
>Joseph Welch...
>>Jim E wrote...
>>>Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder,
>>>mayhem, terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
>>http://www.geocities.com/iconoclastes.geo/victims.html
>>
>>Ancient Pagans
>Note idiot.
>
>Let's try to be a bit contemporaneous.
>
>Say in the past fifty years.
>Try to match the blood and gore of the mooslime hoards in the last
>fifty years with similar christian hoards.
In fairness, you did initially ask for incidents in "the last few
centuries", and it's a little late for you to reduce your limit to
"the past fifty years". That having been said, most of Welch's
examples were from much further back in history than your specified
"last few centuries". Readers had to scroll well down into his post
in order to find those examples which met the requirements of the
challenge.
--
Jafo
Jim E
"Jafo" <a...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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The terrorist bed fellows always wish to go back to times before the general
civilization of western culture. The mozlims seem to have avoided the entire
civilization process.
Jim E
Joseph Welch
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
>>> Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder,
>>> mayhem, terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/iconoclastes.geo/victims.html
>>
>> Ancient Pagans
>>
>
>
> Note idiot.
>
> Let's try to be a bit contemporaneous.
Note, fucking idiot:
You asked for "organized christian murder, mahem, terrorism and butchery IN
THE LAST FEW CENTURIES".
YOUR quote still appears above you backpedaling fuckwit.
> Say in the past fifty years.
What happened to "the last few centuries" you cowardly piece of shit? Not
willing to stand behind your own bullshit?
You asked for something - you got it, now you're backpedalling like Lance
Armstrong.
You radical extremist right-wingers sure are stupid fucks.
Joseph Welch
"Jafo" <a...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> In fairness, you did initially ask for incidents in "the last few
> centuries", and it's a little late for you to reduce your limit to
> "the past fifty years". That having been said, most of Welch's
> examples were from much further back in history than your specified
> "last few centuries". Readers had to scroll well down into his post
> in order to find those examples which met the requirements of the
> challenge.
No charge for the extra information.
Joseph Welch
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> The terrorist bed fellows always wish to go back to times before the
> general civilization of western culture.
Actually I was just being complete.
Radical extremist scumbags like you are backpedaling liars.
Jim E
>
> "Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> news:44rtdkF...@individual.net...
>
>> The terrorist bed fellows always wish to go back to times before the
>> general civilization of western culture.
>
> Actually I was just being complete.
>
> Radical extremist scumbags like you are backpedaling liars.
>
Lame
Jim E
>
> "Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> news:44qpqlF...@individual.net...
>
>>>> Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder,
>>>> mayhem, terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
>>>
>>> http://www.geocities.com/iconoclastes.geo/victims.html
>>>
>>> Ancient Pagans
>>>
>>
>>
>> Note idiot.
>>
>> Let's try to be a bit contemporaneous.
>
> Note, fucking idiot:
>
> You asked for "organized christian murder, mahem, terrorism and butchery
> IN THE LAST FEW CENTURIES".
>
> YOUR quote still appears above you backpedaling fuckwit.
>
>> Say in the past fifty years.
>
> What happened to "the last few centuries" you cowardly piece of shit? Not
> willing to stand behind your own bullshit?
You llying twit. the last few centuries would take us back at most to the
19th , that is three centuries back.
Let's see all the organized christian terrorism and savegry after that date.
Jim E
>
> You asked for something - you got it, now you're backpedalling like Lance
> Armstrong.
>
> You radical extremist right-wingers sure are stupid fucks.
Slinking islamic apologists always wish to bring up the history of the dark
ages, that the islamizoids never left.
Jim E
Joseph Welch
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
>> Actually I was just being complete.
>>
>> Radical extremist scumbags like you are backpedaling liars.
>>
>
> Lame
Fact, dipshit. You asked for examples from the last several centuries -
then whined because I provided more examples than just those from the last
50 years.
Stupid radical extremist fuckwit.
hc23hc
> The terrorist bed fellows always wish to go back to
> times before the general civilization of western culture.
Before the theatrical release of "The Last Temptation of Christ"
sparked Christian fundamentalist bomb threats, you mean ? Or maybe
just before the massacres in Beirut at the hands of Christian
Falangists ? Or maybe just before the embedding of "In God We Trust"
on the nation's paperwork ? Or perhaps during the teleprompted
warblings of murderers George W Bush or Ollie North about their "faith
in Gawd" ?
For the light to ever go on in your attic, would it need to be before
or after the bloodlusty calls for "an eye for an eye" against friggin
Iraq of all places in the wake of an as-yet improperly investigated
9-11 White-House convenience store full of lies and deceit ?
How far back does the disintegration of Christianity have to be
documented, to convice you that all is not well with the currently
prevailing manipulative top-down faith-based passion-playacted parody
of good governance ?
Just wondering.
> The mozlims seem to have avoided the entire
> civilization process.
Sez you. As if you had a clue or an intellectual leg to stand on.
.
.
.
Joseph Welch
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
>> You asked for "organized christian murder, mahem, terrorism and butchery
>> IN THE LAST FEW CENTURIES".
>>
>> YOUR quote still appears above you backpedaling fuckwit.
>>
>>> Say in the past fifty years.
>>
>> What happened to "the last few centuries" you cowardly piece of shit?
>> Not willing to stand behind your own bullshit?
>
>
> You llying twit.
What did I lie about, shit for brains?
> the last few centuries would take us back at most to the 19th , that is
> three centuries back.
Uh-huh. I provided that - AND MORE. No extra charge you whiny little
coward.
> Let's see all the organized christian terrorism and savegry after that
> date.
READ THE FUCKING POST YOU MORON.
Chancellor Goth
come there were not tons of screaming protestors on the streets condemning
Madrid, 9/11, London 7/7 and so on? Surely such violence is as blasphemous
as a picture (the Qu'ran says nothing about pictures). OR are the Muslims
really tacitly approving of the murder of non-muslims? "All that is
required for teh triump[h of evil is that good men do nothing". Where were
all the "good" muslims when those outrages occurred? Why do muslim
newspapers carry anti-Jewish cartoons, yet the bawl like babies when they
get the same treatment back, then go on murderous rampages?
Goth
Joseph Welch
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> List two incidents of mass murder done by a christian militant
> organization in the last fifty years.
What happened to "the last several centuries" you backpedaling radical
extremist right-wing fuckwit?
Hmm?
Jim E
Looks like you have found about ten people involved in multiple events at
separate times and in no way inter connected.
Compare that with the idiot islamizoids rioting world wide THIS WEEK over a
stupid editorial cartoon.
Show me any collection of humans stupid enough to do this, other than the
mooslimes.
Defending those animals makes you look remarkably
like a mooslime .
Jim E
Jim E
>
> "Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> news:44s8ncF...@individual.net...
>
>>> Actually I was just being complete.
>>>
>>> Radical extremist scumbags like you are backpedaling liars.
>>>
>>
>> Lame
>
> Fact, dipshit. You asked for examples from the last several centuries -
> then whined because I provided more examples than just those from the last
> 50 years.
>
> Stupid radical extremist fuckwit.
Because when is said (few centuries) you felt free to go back eons you lying
shit.
About nine hundred years ago the process of civilization started really
kicking in. Unfortunately it never touched the islamizoid savages.
They remain as bone gnawing hunter gatherer throwbacks.
Jim E
Jim E
"Chancellor Goth" <n...@spam.co.uk> wrote in message
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Making the islamizoids peaceful is easy, NUKE them and blow that condritic
piece of rock back into space with them.
Jim E
Jim E
"hc23hc" <hc2...@mac.com> wrote in message
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I have noticed that only the islamizoid part of the species has developed a
common propensity to explode in close proximity to women and children.
Or, when pursued, to hide behind women and children.
A worthless branch of the tree that needs to be pruned, and burned.
Any pack of retards that would riot world wide over a cartoon need to be
cleansed from the gene pool
Jim E
Malto
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
And I've noticed you're a lying piece of shit.
Funny that, sint it?........;)
Malto
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
>
> "Joseph Welch" <seattled...@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
> news:hm6Gf.13853$on7....@fe03.buzzardnews.com...
> >
> > "Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
> > news:44s8ncF...@individual.net...
> >
> >>> Actually I was just being complete.
> >>>
> >>> Radical extremist scumbags like you are backpedaling liars.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Lame
> >
> > Fact, dipshit. You asked for examples from the last several centuries -
> > then whined because I provided more examples than just those from the
last
> > 50 years.
> >
> > Stupid radical extremist fuckwit.
>
>
> Because when is said (few centuries) you felt free to go back eons you
lying
> shit.
>
Shutup, you lying piece of shit.
You asked for examples and you got plenty.
Suck it down, loser.
robw
"Ken [NY]" <em...@BelowThe.Text> wrote in message
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>
> Muslim Riots Break Out in Denmark As Well
> 19:26 Nov 06, '05 / 4 Cheshvan 5766
>
> (IsraelNN.com) As Muslim riots spread across France, Denmark is also
> beginning to see its own Islamic Intifada. In Arhus, Denmark, young
> Muslims were heard chanting, "This land belongs to us!"
>
> A masked spokesman for the rioters told Danish reporters that Muslims
> were tired of being oppressed and harassed and warned the police to
> stay away. "This is our area. We rule this place," he said.
>
> The riots have increased following a cartoon in Danish paper The
> Jyllands Pos involving Mohammed. Rocks and firebombs have become
> commonplace in many neighborhoods and firefighters are afraid to enter
> them to put out the fires.
>
>
> Sydney erupts in second night of riots
> By Simon Freeman and agencies
>
> The Sydney suburbs have erupted in a second night of racially-charged
> violence which has exposed ugly tensions beneath Australia's
> good-humoured exterior.
>
> Local media reported a "terrifying escalation" in the conflict, as 70
> car loads of Lebanese youths arrived in the predominantly white suburb
> of Cronulla - the flashpoint for yesterday's running battles - intent
> on revenge.
>
>
>
> -
>
>
> Cordially,
> Ken (NY) - Chairman, VRWC
>
> "Liberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole"
> -Ann Coulter
>
> email: http://www.geocities.com/bluesguy68/email.htm
>
> What we are responding to:
> http://www.pentagonattack911.com/wtc.htm
>
> spammers can send mail to u...@ftc.gov
robw
c-bee1
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
lol There's always one more republican nazi!
hc23hc
DCI wrote:
> hc23hc wrote:
>
> >Dirty Uncle Jafo sniffled:
> >>
> >> Oh bullshit, Art. Everything I wrote was exactly correct and you
> >> know it, or else you wouldn't be reaching so far out into left field
> >> just to attack the messenger.
> >
> >The mere fact that you're no art lover doesn't alter the fact that
> >you've been reaching around even further than usual lately in lobbing
> >the most delicate of softballs for your racist bench partners to swat
> >at, Jafo.
> >
> >You're the undercarpet to their shag. If your touch of fascism got any
> >more sensual, Jafo or should I say Mister Extreme Right, you might just
> >be be the happy end of it all. Then your life would have meant
> >something in the end, in more ways than one. Just imagine that.
> >
> >So please, quit acting like your messenger service doesn't really need
> >to take a hike and get out of dodge mode like a man.
> >
>
> Let's cut to the quick, Slick, can you post any evidence that would
> lead someone with intelligence to believe Jafo is a racist.
Yes, you little piker on wheels. Indeed I can.
> Since it is your claim, it shouldn't be too difficult to back up your words.
A lot easier for me to post than it ever seems to be for you to read,
DCI.
Heard of the Three Strikes Law, haven't you DCI ? Course you have -
you gonads are always catcalling for its imposition on the non-white
population. . . Well, little stuffed animal, you, Jafo, Stain de STD
and The Pervert are a cross between Three Strokes and a Rolling
Blackout, as far as memory serves, or I wouldn't have to tell you this:
The last three times I posted valid synopses of your boy Jafo's dirty
racist tactics *at your request*, you struck out - *piked* out to avoid
reading and absorbing the evidence. One, two, three. So, no more hot
stuff for you tonight, little wheelie-brain.
Not that it won't be submitted again, just not necessarily when it
suits you... that would be "never". Sometime, whenever it suits me,
you bet it will be.
Go that ?
Meantime, others are arriving at the same conclusion. Call that a
coincidence ? I don't.
.
.
.
DCI
So the summary of your statement: you can't provide the evidence to
support your libelous allegations that Jafo is a racist. Instead, you
just post the stylish bullshit as usual and run along your imaginary
path of success as a human being.
Come and knock on my door and you'll find a surprise for calling
people racist in your efforts to maintain a pseudo superiority in word
but not deed.
You're just a fraud with a computer keyboard nearby.
Next post.
DCI
Kevin Cunningham
"Jim E" <YD64...@SEA.net> wrote in message
>
> "Ron Olin" <ron...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:GqRFf.264206$OU5.193709@clgrps13...
>>
>
> Please note here all the incidents of organized christian murder, mayhem,
> terrorism and butchery in the last few centuries.
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim E
>
Yeah, those stupid Muslims, inventing algebra, anyone could have done that,
inventing the modern numbers systemn, anyone could have done that. Well,
not our right wing friends, they still have a problem with paying rent on
their trailers. Ya know ya gotta do it every month?
Clay
DCI got it wrong:
...
> On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:27:26 GMT, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
> <kil...@killgod.com> wrote:
>
> >nuke the damn scum, the only good muslim is a DEAD muslim
> >
> >muslims are jerks
> >
>
> You are a bigot!
Nope. He/She is a realist.
You, on the other hand, are a moron.
Islamists would behead you... and then spit down your neck.
You're just too stupid to realize it.
Pelosi
-C-
hc23hc
>
> So the summary of your statement: you can't provide
> the evidence to support your libelous allegations that
> Jafo is a racist
Wrong. The only correct portion of your post is that Jafo is a racist.
As discussed in 2004 :
<hc23hc wrote:> [attribution level not escalated]
Dirty Uncle Jafo festered:
> <hc23hc> wrote:
> >Cynthia McKinney for President !
> One of the biggest morons in Congress
Coming from Dirty Uncle Jafo, a veritable connoisseur
of depravity, that statement is no doubt one he'll back
up with a suitably detailed analysis. Right, Jafo ?
> electable only after massive
> gerrymandering of the Congressional districts.
The analysis, Jafo ... you were going to support your
slander of the good woman with something beyond stale
Depleted Rothwellium troll bait, weren't you ?
Try this :
Five-term US Representative ... 5, Jafo. Count 'em.
Unseated only after massive voter manipulation, identity
fraud and relentless lobbying inside the Democratic Primary
by a most shameless toady alliance of GOP and B'nai Brith.
http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn0821.html
You DeceptiCons really have it in for her. What is it
about Cynthia McKinney that scares you so much ? Your
political idols sponsor smears costing million$ not to
mention fraud infernal enough to cost you your soul, in
a series of cowardly attempts to arrange her undoing.
You thought it was going to be a piece of cake to defeat
a black woman from the South. Well, not this one, Jafo.
You failed, miserably, to defeat the person. She's got
you beat, hands down. What you gonna do next, kill her ?
> It was either McKinney
This what you call precision, Jafo ? Bloody hell, old
fruit. That just won't do. You are going to have to
learn to respect people of other races and gender than
your own miserly slice of inbred nanomasculinity.
You're going to have to learn to respect your opponents
whatever their race, gender or political persuasion, or
you can just fuck off like you pals of the Prodigal Son
of a Bush always do whenever the going gets tough on the
path of righteousness. You will lose, Jafo. It doesn't
matter that you don't know when, or where. Your defeat
is assured because you have cultivated nothing of virtue
in human terms that might ever set you slightly above a
category of loathsomeness so extreme, the politest way
to describe it and your existence is "Enemy of America".
The foul stand-off you're contriving is one between the
imperious scourge of your Manchurian usurpers versus all
and any other people refusing to play ball with or pledge
troth to your moldy monocultural dystopia of Original Sin,
Puritanical subservience and bitterly vacuous materialism.
You crave onset of The Rapture because you're too foul to
overcome your own prejudice that scabrous venality insures
your superiority to people of other ethnicities, cultures
and beliefs - plus, in your case, people of other gender =
with whom you're incapable of sharing planetary resources;
and also, because you're too cowardly to kill yourself.
Just because you hate women, intelligent women, non-white
people in general and, most of all, anybody decelerating
America's decline into fascist cultural oblivion "under W"
doesn't begin to legitimize your habitual exhortations for
their disenfranchisement.
It only makes you look that much more absurd.
The moron, Jafo, is you.
> or her equally moronic stablemate, Sheila Jackson Lee
or ... someone, you moron ...
You'll come to remember this as the day Jafo manifestly
illustrated his negative ethnic and sexual bias against
black American women using the subhuman "stablemate" to
color his own instinctual fear, prejudice and ignorance.
Oh dear Jafo, you done trotted right from stealth racist
to Camptown Racist in less time than it takes "W" to get
jiggy with all he knows from those "Blacks" in Brazil.
If only they would just stop making you guys make fools
of yourselves, right ?
> who asked
> Dan Golden, then head of NASA, if the Mars Pathfinder rover would
> be able to travel to the site of Neil Armstrong's footprints.
Maybe if [whoever it was] had phrased the question in
Whitworth instead of metric, you might not have flown
your "Karl" Rover into the Martian Worn Tread Center.
Either that - or you have no bloody clue what kind of
muck to throw at Cynthia, because she's all the things
you, a sickly pallid falangist poofter on his final lap
around the Colostoboys Room, cannot abide, by hook or by
crook. So, fuck it, you just hate her to bits anyway.
It's not rocket science.
She's smarter than you, a better person by miles - and
something like twice as many kilometers. She's ethical
while you're just pathetic. She keeps growing stronger
whereas you grow old in graceless barbarian degeneracy.
Though you feebly allege she's a "moron" from what you,
in fruity stealth-racist brogue, call "a failed culture"
you just can't seem to keep her ... down.
You can't, can you ? She's not your wash and wear Tom
Sowell, that's for sure.
Tough titty, Jafo. It's your funeral.
.
But wait, there's more . . .
>From November 2003:
hc23hc wrote:
> Jon Hamrick wrote:
Inasmuch as Dirty Uncle Jafo's actually a Stealth Racist, you're
correct.
> Nevertheless, in response to what you claim, I do recall that you once
> said that there are more black people in American prisons than any other
> group "because they commit more crimes." Technically speaking, that's an
> inherently racist statement. Perhaps it's true, but it's questionable
> considering the variables of law enforcement in this country, which
> obviously include racist perceptions in our police departments and
> judiciary system.
Good call. Jafo wallows in that sort of everyday injustice, and if
it results in an increased prison population, something he evidently
has a vested interest (or two) in, so much the better, as far as he
is concerned.
> I haven't done a search to find a precise reference to the quote, but
> I'm fully confident that the words I've quoted are precisely yours, not
> a paraphrase. You appear to be the type of person who can admit to
> having made this assertion rather than deleting the original post and
> pretending it never existed. My point is that I can see how someone
> might find your views racist based upon statements like the one I've
> referred to.
People do find Jafo's views racist, the views he permits to be archived
and those which he (for obvious reasons) doesn't. During Jafo's lengthy
ideological romance with psychotic full-on racist, sexually ambivalent
chronic alcoholic, criminally paranoid demagogue BajaRat and the
latter's
common law life partner, AnalMoo, both of whom sport multiple fascist
posting identities and with whom Jafo socially consorts, the majority
of
Jafo's posts were diligently x-no-archive'd, but regularly consisted of
slanderous allegations about how you can take the Mexican out of Mexico
but you can't take [the opposite] - and much the same sort of Lay-Z-Boy
racism that he reiterates further down this thread about black
Americans.
He's a slithery old poof with a propensity for rectophilia and stealth
fascism, who amongst other monstrosities has in all seriousness called
for, and vigorously defended, the facial tattooing of political
opponents
to his Heinlein/Sowell-inspired realm of Apocalyptic balderdash so that
they be disqualified from access to the electoral voting process.
A lot like Jeb Bush, in other words, but minus the heterosexuality.
<Jafo wrote:>
> > You've just opened a window into your soul, JoettaB.
> > And the view isn't very pretty.
> Careful with those bricks in that glass house. As others have said over
> the years, you appear to have real problems with women who speak their
> mind or show some degree of intelligence. JoettaB was wrong to say that
> you use multiple IDs or to confuse you with various trash posters. She
> did her credibility some damage in that, and should avoid using
> speculation or false accusations as an argumentative tool. Still, it's a
> fact that you and The Pervert tend to "gang up" on women with whom you
> disagree, and it isn't pretty to view.
Jafo and The Pervert are at their level "best" when ganging up against
intelligent women. Clearly of all the "races" they fear the most, the
enfranchised female species is chief - followed by anyone who will take
a stand against corporate dumbification of America. "Pretty" and Jafo
are pretty much polar opposites. Ugly is as Dirty Uncle Jafo does.
.
.
.
We could go on like this all day, DCI. Whether you read this, or just
act dumb as usual, there's good fifty or sixty more where that came
from. Including your and Jafo's infamous "young Moslems between the
ages of..." ethnic stereotyping litany of shame.
Only in your case, dumb wouldn't be an act. Face it, DCI, Jafo is a
racist. You're only slightly stealthier about it than he is. In other
words, you're lost.
.
.
.
DCI
Your post and its contents proves nothing other than your need to
stretch words to fit your agenda, that of being just off the mark of
sophistication. You didn't have it in the past, you don't have it now,
and you won't have in any foreseeable future.
Next post.
DCI
hc23hc
>
> Your post and its contents proves nothing other than your need to
stretch words to fit your agenda
You didn't have to post libel of the entire Moslem world, but you did.
You didn't have to fight tooth and nail to defend the racist position
of Jafo that all non-white culture is "failed", but you did.
You didn't have to avoid reading the very proofs you insisted on
receiving, then shoot your ugly little snout off blindly for good
measure, but you did.
So all you have to do now to round things out, DCI, is fuck yourself.
Let me know when you did *that*.
Oh wait, you already did. Well, I sure hope the baby doesn't have your
eyes. Infant blindness is one of the things Bush just cut support for
in his latest anti-humanitarian budget, like it was written by Jafo
himself.
.
.
.
DCI
You wouldn't know Islam if it bit you on your spiritual gonad.
DCI
Jafo
>DCI wrote:
>>Let's cut to the quick, Slick, can you post any evidence that would
>>lead someone with intelligence to believe Jafo is a racist.
>Yes, you little piker on wheels. Indeed I can.
But predictably, you won't.
>>Since it is your claim, it shouldn't be too difficult to back up
>>your words.
>A lot easier for me to post than it ever seems to be for you to
>read, DCI.
>
>Heard of the Three Strikes Law, haven't you DCI ? Course you have -
>you gonads are always catcalling for its imposition on the non-white
>population. . . Well, little stuffed animal, you, Jafo, Stain de
>STD and The Pervert are a cross between Three Strokes and a Rolling
>Blackout, as far as memory serves, or I wouldn't have to tell you
>this:
>
>The last three times I posted valid synopses of your boy Jafo's
>dirty racist tactics *at your request*, you struck out - *piked* out
>to avoid reading and absorbing the evidence. One, two, three. So,
>no more hot stuff for you tonight, little wheelie-brain.
>
>Not that it won't be submitted again, just not necessarily when it
>suits you... that would be "never". Sometime, whenever it suits
>me, you bet it will be.
>
>Go that ?
Yeah. It all adds up to "Evasion Noted®". What you've posted is
just like the rest of your posts - all froth-at-the-mouth, style-
over-substance attacks that are most careful to evade anything that
looks even remotely like an issue.
>Meantime, others are arriving at the same conclusion. Call that a
>coincidence ? I don't.
Who? Little Bill? Art? Guys who won't give a straight answer to
a question? Heh. If I've written anything to offend your little
flock of supplicants, believe it.
--
Jafo
Topaz
By Dr. William Pierce
"We've been talking about the very dangerous situation in the Middle
East recently, just because so much is happening there, and
undoubtedly we'll be talking about it much more in the future. For
that reason I want to make very clear what my motives and sympathies
are, lest I lead anyone astray and be thought a hypocrite for doing
so. First, regarding Palestine: although my sympathies definitely lie
with the Palestinians rather than with the Jews, it is not horror at
what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians that motivates me. What
motivates me is horror that my country is being used by the Jews in
their war against the Palestinians. If America were not involved at
all in the Middle East I still would sympathize with the Palestinians
and I would wish that they could be successful in driving the Jews
into the sea and annihilating the abomination that is Israel, but that
conflict between Jews and Palestinians would not be a major concern
for me. At least, my
concern there would be dwarfed by my concern for problems more
directly involving my own people in America and in Europe and in
southern Africa.
Even now, with money and weapons being supplied by America and used to
slaughter Palestinians, my concern is much less with monsters like
Ariel Sharon who are doing the slaughtering than it is with the filthy
creatures among my own people in America who are collaborating with
Jews here to keep the weapons and money flowing to Sharon -- and are
ready to do whatever else the Jews require of them here or abroad.
So when I tell you about Jews in occupied Palestine shooting
Palestinian children, and disapproval and anger are evident in my
voice, what I really am angry about is that the American people, my
people, are being used for this murderous activity. I am angry that
America's whole foreign policy has been perverted to serve Jewish
interests at the expense of American interests. I am angry that
America's political system has been perverted to ensure that we always
have so-called "leaders," whether Democrat or Republican, who are
dependent on the Jewish media or Jewish money or both for their
election and consequently will do the bidding of the Jews. I am angry
that our whole government is riddled with Jews -- Jews in our Defense
Department, Jews in our State
Department, Jews in our Immigration and Naturalization Service, Jews
in our Justice Department, Jews in the President's speech-writing
staff - who really set the policies of our government behind the
scenes, while the politicians are out front in the spotlight making
speeches and kissing babies - and doing as they're told by the Jews
behind the
scenes.
Did you know that it was a Jewish speechwriter, David Frum, who put
the phrase "axis of evil" in George Bush's mouth to justify America's
ongoing war against Israel's enemies? Did you know that a clique of
Jews in the Defense Department and among George Bush's foreign policy
advisers are the people actually running the so-called "war on terror"
in Afghanistan: a war that they intend to expand to Iraq and any other
Middle Eastern country that gets uppity, in order to make that part of
the world safe for Israel at American expense? Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld is a front man for his nominal subordinates, Deputy
Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz and Deputy Undersecretary of
Defense for Policy Douglas Feith; and George Bush's official foreign
policy adviser, Condoleezza Rice, helps him meet his Black quota for
the Cabinet, but it is the Jew Richard Perle, chairman of Bush's
Defense Policy Board, who gives him his foreign policy directives.
As I've said on more than one occasion, George Bush is a feckless
nincompoop who couldn't come up with a defense policy or a foreign
policy on his own if he had to -- which is why he's President. The
real policymakers behind the scenes certainly don't want a man in the
White House who has ideas of his own, because those ideas might
conflict with theirs.
And it is nothing but empty sophistry to make a distinction between
Jews in Israel, such as Ariel Sharon and Simon Peres, and the Jews in
Mr. Bush's administration formulating his policies or the Jews
controlling our mass media. They all are Jews, and that's what really
matters.
There are many knowledgeable Americans besides me who think that it's
not a good thing to have Jews using America to advance Israel's
interests at the expense of America's interests. They know how the
system works: how the Jews exert their control through money and media
and a well-entrenched network of Jewish operatives, such as Wolfowitz
and Feith and Perle. And many of these knowledgeable Americans also
understand how Jewish subterfuge and deceit work: they understand that
the Jews throw up a lot of smoke to conceal their control and make it
appear that they have much less influence than they actually do.
Despite this degree of understanding that many knowledgeable Americans
have, there seem to be very few who are willing or able to draw the
necessary conclusions. What I keep seeing are comments about the need
to get the so-called "peace process" going again in the Middle East,
and how there are hardline supporters of Israel who are obstructing
the "peace process" because they think that it will give too much to
the Palestinians or will compromise Israel's security, or whatever.
These knowledgeable Americans seem to believe that if we could just
get around the Jewish hardliners somehow -- if we could just
neutralize Jews such as Wolfowitz and Feith and Perle; if Ariel Sharon
could be replaced by a "moderate" Jewish prime minister -- then the
"peace process" could proceed, America could gradually reduce its
involvement in helping the Jews keep the Palestinians repressed, and
eventually Israel no longer would be using America, and everything
would be rosy. And so these knowledgeable Americans expend all of
their wit and energy in these trivial pursuits.
Listen! Do you know what the most hopeful aspect of the conflict
between Jews and Palestinians is now? It is the ongoing radicalization
of the Muslim masses throughout the whole Middle East. The
collaborator governments in Pakistan, in Egypt, in Saudi Arabia are
terrified of the reaction they see among their own people to what
Ariel Sharon is doing to the Palestinians. When Sharon's Jewish troops
shoot Palestinian children, Muslim mobs riot, and governments that now
collaborate with the United States quake. Ariel Sharon is the best
thing that has happened in the Middle East in the last 54 years.
The Palestinian tactic of suicide bombing is being denounced by every
politician and every media spokesman over here now. It's nothing but
terrorism, they all say. There's no justification at all for suicide
bombing, they tell us. Of course, whenever you hear that sort of
unanimity from the politicians and the media people you should be
suspicious. In fact, suicide bombing is the best tactic for the
Palestinians to use now, because it provokes the Jews to step up
reprisals. And the reprisals radicalize the masses in every country in
the Middle East. If just one of the collaborator governments falls,
the spines of all the rest will be stiffened, and the Bush government
will be far less likely to find collaborators for building its
so-called "coalition" to do the will of the Jews in the Middle East.
Suicide bombers now hardly put a dent in the population of five
million Jews in occupied Palestine, and Sharon's bloody reprisals
hardly put a dent in the overall Palestinian population. But if
conflict of this sort continues until just one collaborator government
is overthrown, that ultimately will be worth more than ten thousand
successful suicide
bombings in which only 20 or so Jews are killed each time. In the long
run there can be no real peace in the Middle East and no end to
America's shameful role there -- and no future for the Palestinian
people -- as long as there is an Israel. There seems to be a better
understanding of these things among knowledgeable Palestinians than
among knowledgeable Americans.
Shallow thinking and the pursuit of trivial goals is even worse among
knowledgeable Americans when it comes to domestic problems. They
really do not want to grasp these problems with both hands and deal
with them in a forthright way. Look, for example, at what uncontrolled
immigration has done and is doing to America. And what do
knowledgeable Americans propose to do about that? Very little, really.
They make much of the fact that several of the al-Qaeda hijackers who
carried out the September 11 attack were in the United States only
because of very lax immigration policies, and so that's a good reason
for tightening up the policies.
How about simply rounding up all illegal aliens immediately -- all 12
million of them -- and booting them and all of their offspring out of
the country without further ado?
Oh, no, no, no! We can't do that! Why not? Well, the media never would
stand for it. The media would be all over anyone who even proposed a
mass expulsion of illegal aliens. They would denounce any political
leader who tried to do that as a "racist" and a "neo-Nazi." And so
knowledgeable Americans, who understand the immigration disaster quite
well, continue tiptoeing around it, afraid to do or even say anything
really significant about it: terrified even to think about really
radical solutions that might actually end the problem. And it's the
same with the rest of our domestic problems. Lots of people understand
these problems and are worried about them, but they won't tackle them
in any
significant way. They let the Jews -- the Jewish media and Jewish
money and the entrenched Jewish network -- have their way, for all
practical purposes.
Why? Why are the Jews permitted to get away with all of their
destructive policies and activities without being challenged or
opposed in any significant way? Part of the reason is that the Jews
are very powerful, and therefore many people are afraid to cross them.
They're afraid of the sort of media reaction I just mentioned in
connection with immigration. Everyone understands that the Jews stick
together and will viciously attack anyone who opposes them. It's the
old story, so aptly expressed by the late-16th-century writer, Sir
John Harington. Harington wrote: "Treason doth never prosper: what's
the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Today the
Jewish power structure is
prospering, and none dare oppose it or even call it what it is. Well,
that's only part of the reason Jews are permitted to get away with so
much. There's more to it than that. There's a mystique the Jews have
built very carefully around themselves and nurtured diligently. It is
a mystique of piety and injured innocence. It is a mystique that says
to the Gentile world: "We are a gentle and inoffensive race, and
because of this everyone hates us. We're smart and we work hard and
achieve success, and because of this everyone hates us. We are a
highly moral and ethical race, and because of this everyone hates us.
We are a very talented race, with many gifted members, many geniuses,
and because of this everyone hates us. We are a very altruistic race,
a race of philanthropists who only want to make a better world for
everyone, and because of this everyone hates us."
Many simpletons among the lemmings simply accept these claims at face
value. Many knowledgeable people, however, who can see through these
claims to the real Jews hiding behind them, still hesitate to
challenge them. Part of the Jewish mystique is the so-called
"Holocaust." In its most simpleminded form the "Holocaust" story is
the claim that the
Germans hated the Jews for the reasons I just mentioned -- for their
gentleness and their success and their morality and their talent and
their altruism -- and because of this hatred roasted six million of
them during the Second World War in "gas ovens," to use one of the
Jews' favorite "Holocaust" phrases.
Actually, the "Holocaust" is a very powerful part of the Jewish
mystique. The Jews crafted the "Holocaust" story with great care and
great effort -- well, actually not with as much care as they might
have used: it's as full of holes as a Swiss cheese, but still it is
sufficient to make most people, even those who understand what Jews
are really like, hesitate to attack them. People don't want to be seen
as bullies. They don't want to be seen as so insensitive that they
would criticize the Jews, who already have suffered so much, poor
dears, at the hands of anti-Semites.
In several past broadcasts we've looked at a number of the lies and
exaggerations and distortions that make up the "Holocaust" story.
There are a number of good books available on the subject from the
sponsor of this broadcast, National Vanguard Books, including Norman
Finklestein's excellent book The Holocaust Industry, which I discussed
in an earlier broadcast. The point is that despite the lies, despite
the fact that many knowledgeable Americans are aware of the lies, the
"Holocaust" still serves its purpose for the Jews. People are afraid
of the image conjured up by the "Holocaust."
Perhaps it's that American life is too soft... Whatever the reason,
many otherwise knowledgeable and hardheaded Americans just can't
entertain the idea of rounding up the Jews and getting rid of them,
even when the situation is as urgent as it is in America today. And
really, in the long run that is the only way to solve the Jewish
problem.
The Germans understood that, back in the 1930s, and they had the
courage and the foresight to act on their understanding. Unlike
Americans today, they had an honest government concerned above all
with the survival, welfare, and progress of the German people, and
they began doing what was necessary, forcing the Jews to emigrate
wholesale from Germany beginning in 1933. And because of that the
Jewish propaganda machine has attacked the Germans so viciously, has
so blackened and demonized their image, that today even knowledgeable
people are afraid to be associated with that image. They are afraid to
say that the Germans were right, that the Germans were justified, and
that we need to do the same if we are to survive. So, as I said, the
"Holocaust" story, despite its
glaring discrepancies and lies, still serves as a shield for the Jews;
it still protects them from criticism.
Well, mostly. In parts of Europe not quite as poisoned by Jewish
propaganda as America is, the shield has slipped a bit. A large
British department store chain, Selfridges, has yielded to demands
from anti-Israel demonstrators and has removed from its shelves
products marked "Made in Israel." Last week the second largest
supermarket chain in Norway, Coop Norge -- which is to say, Norway
Coop, announced its decision to boycott all Israeli imports. That
decision was not the result of pressure from anti-Israel demonstrators
but was based on the feeling by Coop Norge management that it would be
immoral to continue supporting the Israeli economy by selling Israeli
imports under the
present circumstances. That is a step forward, though it is a long way
from what is needed.
The Jews, of course, immediately began waving their "Holocaust" story
around, and now, as the boycott movement catches hold in Scandinavia,
they are trying to portray themselves as injured innocents being
attacked once more by "anti-Semites." They are comparing the growing
Scandinavian boycott of Israeli products to the German boycott of
Jewish merchants in the late 1930s. Certainly, a boycott of Israeli
products is a good thing, and the fact that such a boycott is even
thinkable by big businessmen today is a sign that the Jewish mystique
-- and in particular the Jewish "Holocaust" story -- is becoming a bit
shopworn. It no longer has the hypnotic power that it once had -- at
least, in some parts of the world. And I suppose that we should be
happy about that. The unfortunate fact remains, however, that in
America the Jews still have their money and
their media and their entrenched network of bureaucrats, and even if
the "Holocaust" story has lost some of its charm in Europe, it still
keeps most knowledgeable Americans intimidated.
Knowledge isn't enough. Courage and boldness also are necessary.
Honesty and forthrightness are necessary also. Tiptoeing around the
critical issues of our time isn't enough. Tiny reforms in our
disastrous foreign policy and in our disastrous immigration policy and
in a dozen other disastrous policies aren't enough. We need to stop
apologizing to the people who are destroying us and go full bore at
destroying them instead.
Instead of being hypnotized by the "Holocaust" story we need to look
with clear eyes at why there was a need for action against the Jews in
Germany in the 1930s and 1940s. The Jews' claim today that the Germans
were suffering from collective insanity and had no reason for trying
to get the Jews off their backs is as phony as George Bush's claim
that
Osama bin Laden had no reason for attacking America on September 11.
Wherever Jews go they corrupt and destroy. That is their nature,
always and everywhere. Let us be thankful to the Palestinians who now
are making such terrible sacrifices to help the world see what the
Jews are like. And I suppose we also should be thankful to Ariel
Sharon for demonstrating so forthrightly to the world what Jews are
like.
Let us hope that the conflict between Jews and Palestinians
intensifies and lasts long enough to wake up many more of our people
around the world and fill them with disgust at America's continuing
support for the Jews. Let us hope that it lasts long enough to bring
about the overthrow of every collaborationist regime in the Muslim
world. Let us hope that it brings about an airtight oil embargo
against the United States and shuts off the lights in every shopping
mall and every sports stadium in America long enough for the lemmings
to become restless and begin asking questions. Let us hope that it
makes the efforts of every fool and every traitor who is striving for
a resumption of the so-called "peace process" so obviously futile that
these efforts no longer have the power to deceive anyone.
Ultimately, of course, we must not depend on the Palestinian suicide
bombers or on Ariel Sharon's murder squads to do for us what we should
be doing for ourselves. Ultimately we must stop tiptoeing and begin
marching boldly and forthrightly toward solving our own problems."
Thanks for being with me again today.
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hc23hc
DCI wrote:
Funny, after an aggregate of many months living in Islam-centric venues
over the years, you'd think I might. But if I didn't, and if I were a
racist apologist like you and the treadmill of stealth racism himself,
Dirty Uncle Jafo, and if I were as full of myself as you two are -
hmmm, what do you think, DCI ?
Might one then post long screeds demonizing the entire Moslem culture,
instead, in complete ignorance ?
The way you did ?
Yes, that's exactly the way I mean. And the answer's still no. Never.
It takes a real fucking idiot to write what you and Jafo have churned
out over the decades and still think you're not liable to be identified
as withered, mentally mummified, racialist bottom-feeders. And you're
just the idiot for that job, aintcha, DCI ?
DCI ...? Oh dear... Damn. Dead again.
.
.
.
hc23hc
>
> If I've written anything to offend your little
> flock of supplicants, believe it.
You mean, like when you went out of your way to offend all of Islam
with your "profile of a terrorist" screed of infamy ?
They may not be *my* supplicants, but if for your sins and incitement
of violence against the non-white cultures of this world *schlechthin*
the downtrodden were to put you on the carpet, roll it up and pour
gasoline over you then light the resultant jelly-roll, they might just
be onto something. And who am I to disagree with those whose state of
supplication stems from your angry white abuse ?
Not just guys, Jafo. Women too, your Number One instinctual
adversaries of choice. After all the murderous pandering you've
subscribed to, of which women (especially non-white ones) have been the
prime victims, I'd say their distrust of you to the core deserves
consideration as a valid point.
Because you want what you write to be taken seriously, I seriously
believe you are a racist. If that was the question you claim nobody's
answering, the answer's affirmative, Jafo. Yes you are.
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Jafo
>Yeah, those stupid Muslims, inventing algebra, anyone could have
>done that, inventing the modern numbers systemn, anyone could have
>done that.
http://snipurl.com/whatwentwrong
"What Went Wrong? : The Clash Between Islam and Modernity in the
Middle East" - Bernard Lewis
"Now Lewis offers 'What Went Wrong?', a concise and timely survey
of how Islamic civilization fell from worldwide leadership in almost
every frontier of human knowledge five or six centuries ago to a
'poor, weak, and ignorant' backwater that is today dominated by
'shabby tyrannies ... modern only in their apparatus of repression
and terror.' He offers no easy answers, but does provide an engaging
chronicle of the Arab encounter with Europe in all its military,
economic, and cultural dimensions. The most dramatic reversal, he
says, may have occurred in the sciences: "Those who had been
disciples now became teachers; those who had been masters became
pupils, often reluctant and resentful pupils." Today's Arab
governments have blamed their plight on any number of external
culprits, from Western imperialism to the Jews. Lewis believes they
must instead commit to putting their own houses in order: 'If the
peoples of Middle East continue on their present path, the suicide
bomber may become a metaphor for the whole region, and there will
be no escape from a downward spiral of hate and spite, rage and
self-pity, [and] poverty and oppression.' Anybody who wants to
understand the historical backdrop to September 11 would do well
to look for it on these pages."
--
Jafo
hc23hc
Dirty Uncle Jafo is the icing on the cake of racism, the fairy on top
of its Christmas Tree.
Somebody light a candle. At age 60, Jafo's sprung a racist leak yet
again. Yes, it could go up, but the good news is, the backlash will
probably hit him first, at the rate he's going.
Before you go, Jafo: is there anything you ever *liked* about life,
other than trying to make it worse, as miserable as possible, for other
people all the time ?
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Jafo
Thanks for the usual spate of personal insults, Slick, but did the
content of the post terrify you so much that you couldn't even quote
it?
--
Jafo
DCI
Please show us where I demonize Islam and or its Muslim members.
as per usual, you just throw words on the screen and punch the send
button without one ounce of care for the truth. You don't know
Islam!!!
DCI
hc23hc
>
> Please show us where I demonize Islam and or its Muslim members.
OK
for example
on
Jul 24 2004
in
Message-ID: <p8j5g05s6ip90krgi...@4ax.com>
The subject - in your case, DCI - appropriately entitled: "Do you
remember?"
DCI [you] wrote:
[ over and over again ]
>
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>
> Nope, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
Cheap saracasm on top of lowbrow racism. Suits you, DCI.
Now, since it is written : "Fuck off, you little shit."
.
This just in from the Jammy Awards:
... and the posthumous award for crookedest little tadger goes
to...:::::RIP *DCI*
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hc23hc
>
> Thanks for the usual spate of personal insults, Slick,
That's OK, Jafo. As a "failed culture" clown, you deserve it.
> but did the content of the post terrify you so much
> that you couldn't even quote it?
Did your post "terrify" me ? No, of course not. Don't be so
stupid. There's a world of difference between terror and revulsion.
One doesn't have to be Martha Stewart to figure out immediately that
you have no taste, Jafo.
But it's likely to take a whole team of sanitation workers a week just
to get the smell of shit off your dentures from mouthing such a load of
racist drivel while you typed it.
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Alric Knebel
[ The same copy-and-paste job deleted. ]
What was the last non-suprimacist book you read? Have you ever read any
fine literature?
--
Alric Knebel
Jafo
>DCI, Squeal on Wheels, wrote:
>>Please show us where I demonize Islam and or its Muslim members.
>OK
>for example
>on
>Jul 24 2004
>in
>Message-ID: <p8j5g05s6ip90krgi...@4ax.com>
>
>The subject - in your case, DCI - appropriately entitled: "Do you
>remember?"
>
>DCI [you] wrote:
>[ over and over again ]
>>
>> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
>>
>> Nope, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
>Cheap saracasm on top of lowbrow racism. Suits you, DCI.
>
>Now, since it is written : "Fuck off, you little shit."
But Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 *did*
commit all of those acts and more. The only thing about that old
quote that's even slightly inaccurate is that since then a few Muslim
female extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 have gotten
into the act.
--
Jafo
DCI
Just as I thought, you have no such proof. As usual, your
documentation is false, contrived and inaccurate. since you do it on
purpose, what does that make you?
Now you surely can tell us about your vast knowledge of Islam and
muslims.
DCI
hc23hc
>
> But Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 *did*
Hold it right there, Dirty Uncle. Thar's quite enough unmanly noise
out of you.
DCI, may he soon rest in peace process, was the one who committed the
postal work under investigation. If you were smart, you'd spend less
time in a dark alley being so easily mistaken with him, minus the
wheels.
It is irrelevant at the moment what rumors and lies the voices of Bill
O'Reilly and Dick Cheney in your head said it would be okay to
circulate. DCI should *never* have done it. And for the love of all
that's holy, neither should any other man of sound judgment and good
taste.
That would sort of cut you out of all this, Jafo. Like a paper doll.
Anybody got a light?
. . . . . .
Ob-W: No MoWslems were unjustly accuWsed in the making of this
carteWn...er...post.
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hc23hc
> you sure.. c n t. us... <crackle>
You're breakin' up, lil roller-buddy DCI ! Don't croak on me now...
Try an' hang in there 'til the young Moslem Rescue Rangers come for
you.
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DCI
Another absolute piece of contrived, misattributed bullshit from the
queen-king if mierde de toro de alt.california.
Next post.
DCI
Jim E
"Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:eStGf.12575$rH5....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
So you ignore the devolution of the cult.
What have these savages accomplished in the last two centuries?
You can list terror attacks, and ravings of world conquest if you wish.
Jim E
Jim E
"Alric Knebel" <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote in message
news:11um735...@corp.supernews.com...
Plonked that twit long ago, no thought, all cut and paste.
Probably can't type,spell, or think.
Jim E
Alric Knebel
I should, and I did in the past, before a hard drive crash. I'll
tolerate him for now. For him, Thomas Kincaide (whose art I also like,
but recognize it's sentimentality) epitomizes art. He said this a
couple of years ago, and expressed an absolute disdain modern art.
Using this as a starting point, I actually got him to respond in another
newsgroup by methodically challenging his view of the value of IQ among
races. I said he should count himself fortunate, that he can associate
himself with the average IQ of the white race, and that luckily for him,
our average IQ is high enough to carry him. He actually responded
directly instead of copying and pasting.
--
Alric Knebel
Topaz
<alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>Topaz wrote:
>[ The same copy-and-paste job deleted. ]
>
>What was the last non-suprimacist book you read?
Exposing the Real Racists
Edgar Johnston, PhD. reviews an important new book
Jewish Supremacism by David Duke. Published by Free Speech Press, 2003
----------------------------------------------------------
More than 500,000 copies of 'Jewish Supremacism' have been
sold worldwide. It is even sold within the Russian
Duma (parliament).
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In 1905, a new book was catalogued in the British Library. Its title
was The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, and it claimed to be
the secret minutes of Jewish elitists who planned to dominate the
world. Most authorities now view The Protocols of Zion as an elaborate
forgery concocted by agents of the Russian Czar.
Over the last century since the book's release, thousands of other
books have been written on what is called the 'Jewish Question'. The
vast majority of them defend the Jewish people from the forces of
'Anti-Semitism', yet still the best selling book on the Jews since
1905 has been The Protocols, which has been published in most of the
world's languages. According to prominent Jewish leaders in Russia,
the popularity of 'The Protocols' has now been eclipsed by a new book
titled Jewish Supremacism. Unlike The Protocols, this book is no
forgery, for its author is proud of his work. He is the controversial
American politician David Duke, a former member of the Louisiana House
of Representatives.
Jewish leaders are extremely fearful of this book. I can illustrate
the cause of their concern by giving an example of David Duke's
technique in exposing what he calls Jewish supremacism.
If any prominent political person in the Western World publicly
announced that Jews are frequently disloyal to nations where they live
and that they view Gentiles as racially inferior, he would face
excoriation as an 'anti-Semite'. Probably, he would be driven from
office. Duke has no need to make such claims, for he simply quotes
very prominent and powerful Jews who make his point for him.
FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH
In the first few pages of Jewish Supremacism, Duke quotes Dr. Richard
Steinlight, a former head of National Affairs for the largest Jewish
organisation in the United States. Here is the quotation taken from a
2001 magazine article written by Dr. Steinlight:-
'I'll confess it at least, like thousands of other typical kids of my
generation I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-
separatist. Every summer for two months of ten formative years... I
attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign
flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colours, sang a foreign
national anthem, learned a foreign language... and was taught the
superiority of my people to the 'Gentiles' who oppressed us.
'We were taught to view non-Jews as... people less sensitive,
intelligent and moral than ourselves.'
This method of quoting major Jewish figures and sources is used
hundreds of times in Duke's book to advance his thesis that there is a
powerful Jewish supremacist element in Judaism and Zionism that
threatens not only the freedom of the Palestinian people but all
nations, including the United States.
Duke also uses direct quotes from the Talmud and other major Jewish
sources, such as the Jewish Encyclopedia to expose a long-standing
cadre of hateful, anti-Gentile Jewish supremacists. Shocking quotes
are displayed from major Jewish magazines that boast of a Jewish
supremacy over the media and politics of the United States. He finds
disturbing and hateful words from Jewish leaders, such as Ariel
Sharon, which openly support genocide, and he reveals quotations from
Israeli leaders who equate Zionism and Nazism. Of course, he also
cites many prominent Gentiles of historical and contemporary times,
but the Jewish quotations and sources have the greatest power.
Frankly, they are so convincing that Jewish leaders have sought to get
the book banned in many nations.
Interestingly, Jewish Supremacism was published first in Russia, the
same nation that gave birth to The Protocols of Zion. In 2000 it
quickly became a best seller throughout the entirety of the former
Eastern bloc. It even sells briskly in the corridors of the Russian
Duma (Parliament) and has prompted Levinsky, Goldman and other leading
Jews to seek its ban under old Soviet laws forbidding 'anti-Semitism'.
In the Autumn of 2000, Levinsky and others filed a formal complaint to
the Russian Prosecutor General and asked for the book to be classified
as anti-Semitic and thus illegal. After a year of close examination
(they painstakingly verified all 669 of the documentations), the
Russian Government shocked the Jewish community by officially
declaring that the book is not anti-Semitic. Jewish members of the
Duma then introduced new legislation aimed at outlawing 'Jewish
Supremacism', but it failed by a few votes.
Since then, the book has been sold in thousands of street corners
across the breadth of the Russian Federation and has now topped an
incredible 500,000 in print.
Translated into most of the Eastern European languages, the book has
won Duke many academic awards for its scholarship, including an
honorary Doctorate awarded by President's University, the second
largest university in the nation of Ukraine.
Subsequently the university itself published a best-selling Ukrainian
edition. In May of 2003, Free Speech Press published the English
version of Jewish Supremacism, accompanied by a storm of interest and
controversy. Jewish leaders are horrified that it is well on its way
to becoming the best-read book in the world on Zionism.
SMEARS BACKFIRED
Although Zionist organisations have tried to use Duke's media
characterisation as a 'white supremacist' to discredit his book, so
far their exploitation of his early-life involvement in a KKK group
has only backfired by making the book and its author more newsworthy.
Attacks by the ADL and other pro-Zionist groups have led to
sensationalist news coverage, causing even greater interest and
confounding those who desperately wanted Duke's book to die a quiet
death.
David Duke decries the label of white supremacist and says that while
he certainly desires the preservation of his own heritage he seeks no
supremacy over others. He maintains that those who scream most
hatefully against him are themselves guilty of the most extreme and
powerful supremacism on earth: Jewish supremacism.
When Duke lectured in some Persian Gulf nations last year, Zionist
leaders attempted to undercut his support by allegations of 'racism'.
Those organised efforts had little affect on the overflow, mixed-race
audiences that cheered almost his every word. As a former university
professor and a writer who has lectured occasionally on behalf of the
people of Palestine, I approached David Duke's book out of a curiosity
elicited by the intense Zionist efforts to suppress it. Actually, I
had readily accepted the negative portrayals of him I had read in the
Jewish press, but I wanted to see what all the commotion was about.
Why were they so anxious to ban this book and slander its author? To
my great surprise I discovered a most amazing book!
David Duke stated that he had set out with the ambitious goal of
writing the most powerful expose of Zionism ever put into print. With
extreme scepticism of his ability to accomplish such a lofty goal, I
began to read. Three days later, as I turned the last page, I knew
that he had accomplished more than he dreamed. Rather than just
assembling his facts in a dry textbook fashion, David Duke presents
his thesis in the first person. It is the personal narrative of a
thoughtful and enlightened young man who is sympathetic to Zionism,
but is awakened to its supremacist core that not only threatens the
Palestinians but his own beloved European-Americans as well. I could
not find even a trace of hatred, intemperance or true anti-Semitism in
this book. However, by extensive quoting of important Jewish leaders
and Zionist source materials, Duke exposes a deep well of Jewish
supremacist hatred against Gentiles. He points out that one is
unfairly labelled an 'anti-Semite' simply for exposing the hateful
pronouncements of Jewish supremacists.
ABSOLVES SOME JEWS
The book is clearly not anti-Semitic. Duke goes at length to point out
that not all Jews are supremacists, and that the supremacists not only
endanger the Gentile world but threaten innocent Jews by exposing them
to an inevitably hostile Gentile reaction. The book is in fact
dedicated to the late Dr. Israel Shahak, a Holocaust survivor and
Israeli peace activist whose life was dedicated to saving both Jews
and Gentiles from the dangers of 'Jewish supremacism'. David Duke
cleverly turns the term 'anti-Semitic' on its head by quoting
columnist Joseph Sobran's remark that the 'anti-Semite' is no longer
someone who dislikes Jews; he is now simply a person whom the Jews
don't like.
Jewish Supremacism begins with David Duke's first great epiphany on
the Jewish question: his learning that the Russian Revolution wasn't
Russian but overwhelmingly Jewish. Using powerful documentary
evidence, he shows that the Bolshevik Revolution was actually financed
and led by Jews who had their own agenda against the Czar. He quotes
from familiar and impeccable sources such as Winston Churchill, the
dispatches of the American ambassador to Russia, the chief of British
Intelligence and copious Jewish sources. For instance, he quotes a
report from the National Archives of the United States showing that of
the 384 members of the first Bolshevik government, there were more
than 300 Jews and only 13 ethnic Russians.
How could such an enormous fact of history be hidden? Duke asks. His
rhetorical question is answered throughout the rest of this book by
giving the clear evidence of the tremendous power exercised by Jewish
supremacists in government, media and the academic establishment. Not
only has the pre-eminent Jewish role in the Bolshevik Revolution and
its Gulags been quietly suppressed, but also even the very existence
of Jewish supremacism has been kept from public awareness. One can
freely discuss the evils of white supremacism, but if one dares to
expose Jewish supremacism, one will assuredly be labelled an 'anti-
Semite', the ultimate term of opprobrium in modern society. In very
effective arguments, Duke points out that one is not called 'anti-
Christian' for exposing the excesses of the Inquisition or 'anti-
Muslim' for opposing the intolerance of some extremist Moslem sects.
But dare simply to quote the hateful statements of important leaders
of Judaism and Zionism, and in many countries one could well wind up
in prison for 'hate speech'.
One of the fascinating themes to which David Duke repeatedly turns is
the easily documented Jewish supremacist strategy of fostering extreme
chauvinism among their own people while at the same time working to
break down the group loyalty of the Gentiles among whom they live.
Jewish leaders have long made clear that Jewish communities often have
agendas that conflict with their Gentile hosts. Duke describes the
struggle over those agendas as similar to the contest of two football
teams. One team cultivates an extreme group loyalty through a chronic
recital of Gentile persecution and an accompanying 'chosen-people'
supremacist vision. The other is instilled with guilt and the idea
that teamwork is immoral. The main Jewish holidays are dominated by
the recounting of Gentile persecutions, and the Holocaust has now
achieved almost a religious significance in Jewish life. Duke quotes
many Jewish leaders proclaiming Jewish superiority and the need for
the race to preserve its racial genotype. Even today, Israel will
grant instant citizenship to an atheist Jew from New York, but forbids
Palestinians who were born in Israel to return. Israel also forbids
marriages between Jews and Gentiles.
While Jewish supremacists have these supremacist policies for their
own people, they relentlessly work to break down the immigration laws
of other nations. While they preach multi-culturalism and diversity
for almost every other country in which they dwell, they themselves
support and expect Americans to support a Zionist State, dedicated
exclusively to the Jewish people, religion and culture.
INFLUENCE ON MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT
In chapters on Jewish influence over the American mass media and
government, Duke offers extensive documentation that exceeds almost
anyone's suspicions. Major Jewish sources are quoted which boast of
their takeover and control of Hollywood, the news media and the most
sensitive part of the Government of the United States. For instance,
Duke quotes a major Israeli newspaper bragging about the fact that
Jews loyal to Israel make up seven out of the eleven members of the
secretive and sensitive National Security Council (NSC). The article
goes on to assert that "America no longer has a government of Goyim"
(Gentiles). Duke also quotes many US presidents and high government
officials who have dared to speak out about the Jewish supremacy over
the establishment. After thoroughly documenting Jewish supremacy in
government and media, he shows how their media power is used to stifle
public knowledge and understanding of this critical issue. Any
legitimate criticism of Jewish Supremacism is labelled 'anti-
Semitism', and the Jewish supremacists almost exclusively define that
term.
In particularly interesting passages, Duke recounts how that when he
looked up the term 'anti-Semitism' in some popular encyclopaedias, he
found that the articles and recommended reading lists were authored
entirely by Jewish zealots! In every conflict with Gentiles, Jews are
always portrayed as completely innocent while Gentiles are portrayed
as totally evil. Duke suggests that the chronic portrayal of Gentiles
as inherently evil toward Jews is for Gentiles the equivalent of
'blood libel' for Jews.
Duke makes a compelling case that the nation of Israel is the doctrine
of Jewish supremacism put into action. In startling documentary
evidence from Israel, he shows that some of the early Zionist founders
of the country readily co-operated with Nazi Germany, praised Nazi
policies and claimed that their own ideology was similar. He also
quotes major Jewish figures in Israel who have had the courage to
condemn Israel's Nuremberg style racial laws, such as former Israeli
Supreme Court member Haim Cohen, thus:-
'The bitter irony of fate, which has led the same biological and
racist laws propagated by the Nazis and which inspired the infamous
Nuremberg laws to serve as a basis of Judaism within the state of
Israel.'
With these kinds of powerful quotes, it is no wonder that Zionists
around the world are extremely fearful of this book.
ON ISRAELI TERROR
Americans will find the last chapter on Israel of particular interest.
Duke unveils the long Israeli record of terrorism. He documents the
horrendous terror waged against the Palestinians; he also exposes
Israel's long record of terrorism and treachery against its greatest
benefactor, the United States! From major Jewish sources, he recounts
the Israeli terrorist attacks against America in the Lavon Affair, in
which Israeli agents set off bombs in American installations in Egypt
in a treacherous attempt to provoke America into war against that
nation. Duke presents copious evidence exposing the deliberate,
murderous Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in which 34 Americans were
killed and 172 grievously wounded. The terrible damage inflicted on
the United States by Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard is also recounted.
Jewish supremacy in the American media and government has suppressed
any outcry against Israel's treachery. The Jewish supremacists have
even been able to prevent a formal Congressional investigation into
the attack on the USS Liberty. Duke makes the powerful point that
billions of dollars of American aid continue to flow to Israel even
after its treacherous attacks. He writes that supplying this aid is
the moral equivalent of sending military aid to Japan after the attack
on Pearl Harbour.
Duke also shows how the Zionist domination of American foreign policy
led directly to America's 9/11 catastrophe and a whole new series of
foreign policy moves that are leading to disaster. This timely book
shows the Jewish supremacist power behind the Iraq War, the
manipulation of the President and the American people with false
information, and the horrendous damage the war has done to our economy
and even our security. Duke shows how the war is costing us hundreds
of billions of dollars, continues to spill the blood of our military
men and certainly increases world hatred and terrorism against
America.
In one of the most shocking chapters of his work, Duke reveals the
damning evidence of Israeli treachery in the 9/11 attacks. He shows
that a massive Israeli spy ring was uncovered and apprehended in the
months before and after the attacks, and that some of the Mossad
agents had actually monitored the hijackers, including the leader
Mohammed Atta (five Israeli agents lived on his street). Warning
messages of the impending attacks were sent to Israeli firms with
offices both in Israel and the World Trade Centre. A group of Mossad
agents was arrested on 9/11 after they were found to have been filming
and cheering the attacks while they occurred. After they had been held
for a few months, Zionist Michael Chertoff of the US Department of
Justice released all the members of the Israeli spy ring and allowed
them to return to Israel - out of the reach of Congressional 9/11
investigators.
It is impossible to give the reader more than a glance into the depth
and power of this incredible book. Practically every paragraph is a
revelation. There is so much more that I could write about: detailing
how the Holocaust has cynically been used as a Zionist tool in
heightening Jewish solidarity and deflating criticism of Zionism and
Israel; how Jewish supremacists have used immigration as a weapon of
conquest, not only in Palestine but in the Western World as well. I
was fascinated by Duke's expose of Sigmund Freud as a secret Jewish
supremacist who thought of himself as a Hannibal destroying the
foundations of the Christian church and the European family as
Hannibal had sacked Rome. I could go on and on, but I will leave these
discoveries to you when you read this amazing book.
After I completed the book, I wanted to find out if it had the same
affect on others as it had on me. I gave it to two long-time friends
at the university where I taught for 11 years. One has conservative
leanings; the other is decidedly liberal; and I would describe both of
them as sympathetic to Israel. Both were so fascinated that they could
hardly put the book down, and one became so engrossed that he missed
his regular two o'clock class. They both agreed that Duke's book is
one of the best-argued that they have ever read, and used the
identical term of 'amazing' to describe it. My conservative friend
commented that many quotations were so shocking that he began to check
out the references and found them all to be accurate. "Hell" he said,
"If only half the documents Duke cites are authentic, there is enough
evidence here to start a revolution."
> Have you ever read any
>fine literature?
http://www.nationalvanguard.org http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.RealNews247.com
Alric Knebel
> On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 04:41:41 -0600, Alric Knebel
> <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>
>
>>Topaz wrote:
>>[ The same copy-and-paste job deleted. ]
[ The same copy-and-paste job deleted. ]
In another thread titled "The Religious Cancer of Racism," I took Topaz
to task for his racist obsessions. Please read it, because I nailed
him.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: The Religious Cancer of Racism
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:59:37 -0600
From: Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]>
Topaz wrote:
> The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
> nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
> world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
> It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
> the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
> people in India.
>
> All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
>intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
>important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
>the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
>are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:
>
> [rest of racist ideology deleted.]
Follow this. If race is important because of inequalities in
intelligence inherent per race, the implication is that INTELLIGENCE is
what establishes a person's value in the white supremacist's scheme. If
intelligence is so important, then why is race in the equation at all?
Why make RACE the trait of value when it's INTELLIGENCE that matters?
That said, I remember once in another thread you said one of the dumbest
things I'd ever heard. You said that THOMAS KINKADE represented the
only real art. In a single stroke of ignorance, you dismissed all other
artists, and you went after "modern art" in particular. That you can't
comprehend modern art shows you're of a lower intelligence, as there are
many people who have the intelligence to comprehend it.
Now to this. If an average intelligence LOWER than the average
intelligence of the white race mars the acceptability of that race, it
follows that YOU -- having proven to be of lower-than-average
intelligence by your previous statement on art -- have a marred
acceptability. It follows then that YOU are someone with whom someone
else of AVERAGE intelligence -- someone, say, who can appreciate an
artist other than Thomas Kinkade -- should not mingle.
True?
True.
But you've made RACE the defining category, thereby borrowing YOUR value
from the betters of your own race. Luckily for you, our averages are
high enough to carry you.
--
Alric Knebel
Topaz
It wouldn't be a good idea to have a nation just of intelligent
people. What if two parents had a less intelligent child? Would we
deport the child?
We should have a nation for White people. Besides being intelligent
Whites are also very good looking. The Chinese have China, there are
Black countries for the Blacks. We should have a nation for Whites.
>
>That said, I remember once in another thread you said one of the dumbest
>things I'd ever heard. You said that THOMAS KINKADE represented the
>only real art.
Except I didn't say anything about it being the only real art. It
is an example of real art while modern art is simply garbage.
>In a single stroke of ignorance, you dismissed all other
>artists,
Except that that never happened.
>and you went after "modern art" in particular. That you can't
>comprehend modern art shows you're of a lower intelligence, as there are
>many people who have the intelligence to comprehend it.
Remember the story about the king with no clothes?
>
>Now to this. If an average intelligence LOWER than the average
>intelligence of the white race mars the acceptability of that race, it
>follows that YOU -- having proven to be of lower-than-average
>intelligence by your previous statement on art -- have a marred
>acceptability. It follows then that YOU are someone with whom someone
>else of AVERAGE intelligence -- someone, say, who can appreciate an
>artist other than Thomas Kinkade -- should not mingle.
>
>True?
>
>True.
>
>But you've made RACE the defining category, thereby borrowing YOUR value
>from the betters of your own race. Luckily for you, our averages are
>high enough to carry you.
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Topaz
It wouldn't be a good idea to have a nation just of intelligent
people. What if two parents had a less intelligent child? Would we
deport the child?
We should have a nation for White people. Besides being intelligent
Whites are also very good looking. The Chinese have China, there are
Black countries for the Blacks. We should have a nation for Whites.
>
>That said, I remember once in another thread you said one of the dumbest
>things I'd ever heard. You said that THOMAS KINKADE represented the
>only real art.
Except I didn't say anything about it being the only real art. It
is an example of real art while modern art is simply garbage.
>In a single stroke of ignorance, you dismissed all other
>artists,
Except that that never happened.
>and you went after "modern art" in particular. That you can't
>comprehend modern art shows you're of a lower intelligence, as there are
>many people who have the intelligence to comprehend it.
Remember the story about the king with no clothes?
>
>Now to this. If an average intelligence LOWER than the average
>intelligence of the white race mars the acceptability of that race, it
>follows that YOU -- having proven to be of lower-than-average
>intelligence by your previous statement on art -- have a marred
>acceptability. It follows then that YOU are someone with whom someone
>else of AVERAGE intelligence -- someone, say, who can appreciate an
>artist other than Thomas Kinkade -- should not mingle.
>
>True?
>
>True.
>
>But you've made RACE the defining category, thereby borrowing YOUR value
>from the betters of your own race. Luckily for you, our averages are
>high enough to carry you.
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Jim E
I'm not sure that would be an improvement.
I admit to a bit of hatred when it comes to moslims,
but I don't make it a defining motive in my life.
It tool me a number of years to treat SE Asians equitably after my time in
the army.
Maybe I just take a while to crank down .
Jim E
Alric Knebel
If it's not a good idea to have a nation of just intelligent people, why
is this whole discussion necessary?
> We should have a nation for White people. Besides being intelligent
> Whites are also very good looking. The Chinese have China, there are
> Black countries for the Blacks. We should have a nation for Whites.
Again, you're applying a generality to the white race that you're
cashing in on.
>>That said, I remember once in another thread you said one of the dumbest
>>things I'd ever heard. You said that THOMAS KINKADE represented the
>>only real art.
>
>
> Except I didn't say anything about it being the only real art. It
> is an example of real art while modern art is simply garbage.
If you know so much about art to be making such statements to begin
with, why don't you name a few others you consider as producing real
art? But the thing is, you know as much about art as you do literature.
You need to have experience with it to make such statements. Clearly
you don't read much of anything that's not about this racist nonsense.
>>In a single stroke of ignorance, you dismissed all other
>>artists,
>
>
> Except that that never happened.
Yes, it did. You might be rethinking your ideas on art, in that you're
probably willing to include, say, Norman Rockwell, but you're pretty
much limited in your comprehension of art to landscapes, still lifes,
and depictions of action. You're still a foolish racist who's spiteful
of your betters. You don't enjoy anything about real life, and all you
do is read stuff that supports your resentments. Here's proof that you
views of race are incorrect: ancient Egypt. You need to work on your
sociopathic approach to society, learn to enjoy diversity more. Blues
music, which comes out of black culture, is great stuff. Some of them
have a genius for lyrics, of getting right to the heart of the matter.
Seriously, you should try a different approach. This whole racist
ideology is futile. It's not ever going to happen -- this white nation
-- and you're wasting too much time reading that stuff when you could be
nurturing your mind, reading fine literature and embracing real art,
instead of fortifying your already lost position.
>>and you went after "modern art" in particular. That you can't
>>comprehend modern art shows you're of a lower intelligence, as there are
>>many people who have the intelligence to comprehend it.
>
> Remember the story about the king with no clothes?
Yes, Your Majesty, I do.
--
Alric Knebel
Alric Knebel
I can understand that. I've known some guys from the war and they had
strong opinions of them. And I'm getting where I'm suspicious of
Moslims, and I'm at this time trying to figure out if a minority of
noisy ones are expressing the thoughts of the entire group, or are they
aberrations for the most part.
--
Alric Knebel
Topaz
total military to a policy of Israel first, not America first, he has
pushed us into massive debt, gotten us chained to a disastrous and
counterproductive war that will have no positive end, and wants to
stave poor Americans to pay for his bad decisions and his perverted
ego
trip. Hillary Clinton is on the same page as Bush and has dedicated
herself to the State of Israel as her God above all. America has
become a nation of the Jews, by the Jews, and for the Jews. The Jews
have the money and since our Government runs on money, not on votes,
our leaders do not care if they destroy the world defending Israel's
illegal ability to ethnically cleanse Palestinians from Palestine,
their own home. Because Palestinians are trying to defend their legal
home against an illegal occupation which we have financed for over
fifty years, we brand them as "terrorists." Bush, the Evangelicals,
and Neoconservative Democrats like Hillary Clinton do not give a
tinkers damn about our Constitution, our freedom, and our sovereignty.
Our real enemy is AIPAC, the America Israel Public Affairs Committee,
which runs Washington. The reason they are getting away with this is
that most Christian Americans are idiots, pure and simple. Israel is
our OWNER, not our "ally," and America is a Jewish owned corporation,
not a "democracy." Wake up! The American people are dull and stupid
and easily tricked, and now we are paying the price for our ridiculous
Zionist constructed view of the world, where Israel always comes
first,
even before God, our own children, our economy, international law,
basic human rights, multiple UN Resolutions, and our national
sovereignty, which we have lost.
Bush has done far more damage to America than Osama bin Laden Bin
Laden
ever has. Bush has killed more innocent people, wasted more money
(over half a trillion dollars), and effectively wiped his ass with the
United States Constitution, which is far worse than burning our flag.
George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin would hate
Bush and his Neoconservative/Zionist movement, which has destroyed
everything our founding leaders wanted. Our founding fathers made
allot of terrible mistakes, but at least they believed in America
first, not Britain first, and they certainly would not give a damn
about Israel, a nation based on an un-American and anti-American
philosophy. Israel wants to drain us dry, to use us in every way
possible for their own dishonest and illegal gain, and anyone who
opposes them is destroyed by the US media, which is so Zionist
dominated that few voices of dissent are ever heard. Americans are
free to worship Israel any way they want, as long as they worship
Israel first as our God and Master. Israel and the Zionists are
exactly equivalent to George Orwell's "BIG BROTHER" in our society.
We
have given all power and control to them, and have destroyed anyone
who
murmurs the slightest dissent, and then we have the nerve to bomb and
illegally invade other countries in the name of "freedom." We murder
for "freedom," we torture for "freedom," we plant false stories in the
press for "freedom," and we spy on our own citizens illegally for
"freedom." Orwellian doublespeak is rampant!
IB
Topaz
<alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
>> It wouldn't be a good idea to have a nation just of intelligent
>> people. What if two parents had a less intelligent child? Would we
>> deport the child?
>
>If it's not a good idea to have a nation of just intelligent people, why
>is this whole discussion necessary?
It's a great idea to have a nation for White people. Compare this
idea to the Jews having their own country. America gives these Jews
billions of dollars to have their own country. And then Americans
fight the Jews enemies for them. Some people can't even see the
hypocrisy of this while we are told it would be so terrible to have a
nation for White people. The reason for this is that Jews control the
media and they hate the White race. We are ruled over by people who
hate our race. That is why would should have our own nation.
>
>> We should have a nation for White people. Besides being intelligent
>> Whites are also very good looking. The Chinese have China, there are
>> Black countries for the Blacks. We should have a nation for Whites.
>
>Again, you're applying a generality to the white race that you're
>cashing in on.
It's obvious that we should have a nation for White people.
Non-Whites and liberals may oppose it till they are blue in the face.
We know they don't care about the White race one iota. But the Fuehrer
said, "One does not ask for ones rights, one fights for them."
>
>If you know so much about art to be making such statements to begin
>with, why don't you name a few others you consider as producing real
>art? But the thing is, you know as much about art as you do literature.
> You need to have experience with it to make such statements. Clearly
>you don't read much of anything that's not about this racist nonsense.
>
>
>Yes, it did. You might be rethinking your ideas on art, in that you're
>probably willing to include, say, Norman Rockwell, but you're pretty
>much limited in your comprehension of art to landscapes, still lifes,
>and depictions of action. You're still a foolish racist who's spiteful
>of your betters. You don't enjoy anything about real life, and all you
>do is read stuff that supports your resentments. Here's proof that you
>views of race are incorrect: ancient Egypt.
"Queen Hetop-Heres II, of the Fourth Dynasty, the daughter of Cheops,
the builder of the great pyramid, is shown in the colored bas reliefs
of her tomb to have been a distinct blonde. Her hair is painted a
bright yellow stippled with little red horizontal lines, and her skin
is white."
Coon, Carleton Stevens. The Races of Europe. New York City, Macmillan.
1939, p.98
The tomb of the wife of Zoser, the builder of the first pyramid in
Egypt, has a painting of her showing her with reddish-blond hair.
Heyerdahl, Thor, The Ra Expeditions, Garden City, Doubleday, 1971,
p.249
The mummy of Rameses II has yellow hair.
Egypt: Land of the Pharaohs, Time-Life books, Alexandria, VA 1992 p.8
"A funerary mask with the attributes of the goddess Isis shows a
vivid blue-green color of eyes.
A General Introduction to the Egyptian Collections in the the British
Museam. London, Harrison and Sons, 1930, p.49
The mummy of the wife of King Tutankhamen has auburn hair.
Carter, Michael, Tutankhamun, The Golden Monarch, N.Y. 1972 p.68
Red-haired mummies were found in the crocodile-caverns of Aboufaida.
Tomkins, Henry George, Remarks on Mr. Flinders Petries Collection of
Ethnographic Types from the Monuments of Egypt, Journal of the
Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland Vol. XVIIII,
1889, p.216
The mummy of Rameses II has fine silky yellow hair.
Smith, G. Elliot and Dawson, Warren R. Egyptian Mummies, London,
George Allen and Unwin Ltd., 1924 p.99
A blond mummy was found at Kawamil along with many chestnut-colored
ones.
De Lapouge, G. Vacher, L'Aryen, Sa Vie Sociale. Paris, Pichat, 1899,
p.26
Amenhotep III's tomb painting shows him as having light red
hair.
National Geographic Society, Ancient Egypt, Discovering its
Splendors,1978 p.103
An Egyptian scribe named Sakkarah around 2500 B.C. has blue eyes.
Strouhal, Eugen, Life of the Ancient Egyptians, Norman, Oklahoma,
University of Oklahoma Press, 1992, p.53
A common good luck charm was the eye of Horus, the so-called
Wedjat Eye. The eye is always blue, and the word "wedjat" means "blue"
in Egyptian.
Queen Thi is painted as having a rosy complexion, blue eyes and
blond hair.
Hamy, E.T., "Races Humaines de la Vallee du Nil" Bulletin de la
Societe d'Anthropologie de Paris, 1886, p.739
Paintings from the Third Dynasty show native Egyptians with red
hair and blue eyes.
Pijoan, Jose, Historia del Arte Vol III, Madrid, Espasa-Calpe, 1932,
plate XI
The god Nuit was painted as white and blond.
Champollion, H., Le Nil et la Societe Egyptienne, Marseille, Musee
Boreby, 1973 p.94
A painting from Iteti's tomb at Saqqara shows a very Nordic-looking
man with blond hair.
Westendorf, Wolfhart, Painting, Sculpture and Architecture of Ancient
Egypt. New York, Harry N. Abrams, Inc. 1968 p.65
Time-Life books recently put out a volume called Rameses II The
Great. It has a good picture of the blond mummy of Rameses II. Another
picture can be found in the book X-Raying the Pharaohs, especially the
picture on the jacket cover. It shows his yellow hair.
A book called Chronicle of the Pharaohs was recently published
showing paintings,scuptures and mummies of 189 pharaohs and leading
personalities of Ancient Egypt. Of these, 102 appear European, 13 look
black and the rest are hard to classify. All nine mummies look
European.
The very first pharaoh, Narmer, also known as Menes, looks very
European, The same can be said for Khufu's cousin Hemon, who designed
the Great Pyramid of Giza. A computer-generated reconstruction of the
face of the Sphinx shows a European-looking face.
Egypt: Land of the Pharaohs, Time-Life books Alexandria, VA 1992 p.67
It was once painted sunburned red.
Silverberg, Robert, Before the Sphinx; Early Egypt N.Y., N.Y., T.
Nelson 1971 p.168
The Egyptians often painted upper class men as red and upper
class women as white; this because the men became sunburned or tanned
while outside under the burning Egyptian sun.
The information above is part of the information compiled by
Phillip Bonner and was printed in The Barnes Review, 130 Third Street,
SE, Washington, D.C. 20003
>You need to work on your
>sociopathic approach to society, learn to enjoy diversity more. Blues
>music, which comes out of black culture, is great stuff. Some of them
>have a genius for lyrics, of getting right to the heart of the matter.
>Seriously, you should try a different approach. This whole racist
>ideology is futile. It's not ever going to happen -- this white nation
>-- and you're wasting too much time reading that stuff when you could be
>nurturing your mind, reading fine literature and embracing real art,
>instead of fortifying your already lost position.
>
>>>and you went after "modern art" in particular. That you can't
>>>comprehend modern art shows you're of a lower intelligence, as there are
>>>many people who have the intelligence to comprehend it.
>>
>> Remember the story about the king with no clothes?
>
>Yes, Your Majesty, I do.
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Jim E
Personal observation and judgement.
They are all tentacles of the same monster.
Jim E
Alric Knebel
> The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
> nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
> world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
> It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
> the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
> people in India.
>
> All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
>intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
>important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
>the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
>are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:
>
> [rest of racist ideology deleted.]
Follow this. If race is important because of inequalities in
intelligence inherent per race, the implication is that INTELLIGENCE is
what establishes a person's value in the white supremacist's scheme. If
intelligence is so important, then why is race in the equation at all?
Why make RACE the trait of value when it's INTELLIGENCE that matters?
That said, I remember once in another thread you said one of the dumbest
things I'd ever heard. You said that THOMAS KINKADE represented the
only real art. In a single stroke of ignorance, you dismissed all other
artists, and you went after "modern art" in particular. That you can't
comprehend modern art shows you're of a lower intelligence, as there are
many people who have the intelligence to comprehend it.
Now to this. If an average intelligence LOWER than the average
intelligence of the white race mars the acceptability of that race, it
follows that YOU -- having proven to be of lower-than-average
intelligence by your previous statement on art -- have a marred
acceptability. It follows then that YOU are someone with whom someone
else of AVERAGE intelligence -- someone, say, who can appreciate an
artist other than Thomas Kinkade -- should not mingle.
True?
True.
But you've made RACE the defining category, thereby borrowing YOUR value
from the betters of your own race. Luckily for you, our averages are
high enough to carry you.
--
Alric Knebel
GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia
> Topaz wrote:
> > The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
> > nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
> > world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
> > It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
> > the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
> > people in India.
> >
> > All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
> >intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
> >important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
> >the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
> >are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:
> >
> > [rest of racist ideology deleted.]
>
> Follow this. If race is important because of inequalities in
> intelligence inherent per race, the implication is that INTELLIGENCE is
> what establishes a person's value in the white supremacist's scheme. If
> intelligence is so important, then why is race in the equation at all?
> Why make RACE the trait of value when it's INTELLIGENCE that matters?
Absolutely! Who is smarter: Barak Obama or GW Bush?
Topaz
> > The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
> > nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
> > world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
> > It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
> > the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
> > people in India.
> >
> > All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
> >intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
> >important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
> >the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
> >are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:
> >
> > [rest of racist ideology deleted.]
>
>Follow this. If race is important because of inequalities in
>intelligence inherent per race, the implication is that INTELLIGENCE is
>what establishes a person's value in the white supremacist's scheme. If
> intelligence is so important, then why is race in the equation at all?
> Why make RACE the trait of value when it's INTELLIGENCE that matters?
It wouldn't be a good idea to have a nation just of intelligent
people. What if two parents had a less intelligent child? Would we
deport the child?
We should have a nation for White people. Besides being intelligent
Whites are also very good looking. The Chinese have China, there are
Black countries for the Blacks. We should have a nation for Whites.
>
>That said, I remember once in another thread you said one of the dumbest
>things I'd ever heard. You said that THOMAS KINKADE represented the
>only real art.
Except I didn't say anything about it being the only real art. It
is an example of real art while modern art is simply garbage.
>In a single stroke of ignorance, you dismissed all other
>artists,
Except that that never happened.
>and you went after "modern art" in particular. That you can't
>comprehend modern art shows you're of a lower intelligence, as there are
>many people who have the intelligence to comprehend it.
Remember the story about the king with no clothes?
>
>Now to this. If an average intelligence LOWER than the average
>intelligence of the white race mars the acceptability of that race, it
>follows that YOU -- having proven to be of lower-than-average
>intelligence by your previous statement on art -- have a marred
>acceptability. It follows then that YOU are someone with whom someone
>else of AVERAGE intelligence -- someone, say, who can appreciate an
>artist other than Thomas Kinkade -- should not mingle.
>
>True?
>
>True.
>
>But you've made RACE the defining category, thereby borrowing YOUR value
>from the betters of your own race. Luckily for you, our averages are
>high enough to carry y
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Alric Knebel
> The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
> nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
> world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
> It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
> the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
> people in India.
>
> All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
>intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
>important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
>the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
>are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:
>
> [rest of racist ideology deleted.]
Follow this. If race is important because of inequalities in
intelligence inherent per race, the implication is that INTELLIGENCE is
what establishes a person's value in the white supremacist's scheme. If
intelligence is so important, then why is race in the equation at all?
Why make RACE the trait of value when it's INTELLIGENCE that matters?
I remember once in another newsgroup you said one of the dumbest things
I'd ever heard. You said that THOMAS KINKADE represented the only real
art. In a single stroke of ignorance, you dismissed all other artists,
and you went after "modern art" in particular. That you can't
comprehend modern art shows you're of a lower intelligence. Clearly
people who can comprehend it, as I do, will disagree.
Now to this. If an average intelligence LOWER than the average
intelligence of the white race mars the acceptability of that race, it
follows that YOU -- having proven to be of lower-than-average
intelligence by your previous statement on art -- have a marred
acceptability. It follows then that YOU are someone with whom someone
else of AVERAGE intelligence -- someone, say, who can appreciate an
artist other than Thomas Kinkade -- should not mingle.
True?
True.
But you've made RACE the defining category, thereby borrowing YOUR value
from the betters of your own race. Luckily for you, our averages are
high enough to carry you.
--
Alric Knebel
GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia
>>Topaz wrote:
>> > The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
>> > nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
>> > world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
>> > It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
>> > the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
>> > people in India.
>> >
>> > All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
>> >intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
>> >important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
>> >the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
>> >are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:
>> >
>> > [rest of racist ideology deleted.]
>>
>>Follow this. If race is important because of inequalities in
>>intelligence inherent per race, the implication is that INTELLIGENCE is
>>what establishes a person's value in the white supremacist's scheme. If
>> intelligence is so important, then why is race in the equation at all?
>> Why make RACE the trait of value when it's INTELLIGENCE that matters?
>
> It wouldn't be a good idea to have a nation just of intelligent
> people. What if two parents had a less intelligent child? Would we
> deport the child?
>
Wouldn't your kind simply want to sterilize the child?
> We should have a nation for White people.
You had your chance. Why didn't you emigrate to South Africa back in the 'glory
days'?
> Besides being intelligent
> Whites are also very good looking. The Chinese have China, there are
> Black countries for the Blacks.
Never kissed a black girl? Never kissed a Mexican girl with big tits and long
braids? Haven't you ever kissed a Chinese girl? Have you ever kissed ANY girl?
--
There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.
Topaz
Utopia <g...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> It wouldn't be a good idea to have a nation just of intelligent
>> people. What if two parents had a less intelligent child? Would we
>> deport the child?
>>
>Wouldn't your kind simply want to sterilize the child?
Yes.
Besides intelligence though, Whites are also very good looking. We
should preserve the White race. There is no group that is trying to
have a nation just for intelligent people. But White Nationalism
already exists. This is what we want. So now non-Whites and liberals
are trying to talk us into wanting something else. It's obvious where
they are coming from.
>
>> We should have a nation for White people.
>
>You had your chance. Why didn't you emigrate to South Africa back in the 'glory
>days'?
South Africa was segregationist rather than separatist and that is
why it failed. That is not what we want.
Alric Knebel
> The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
> nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
> world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
> It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
> the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
> people in India.
>
> All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
>intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
>important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
>the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
>are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke. Here is an example:
>
> [rest of racist ideology deleted.]
Follow this. If race is important because of inequalities in
intelligence inherent per race, the implication is that INTELLIGENCE is
what establishes a person's value in the white supremacist's scheme. If
intelligence is so important, then why is race in the equation at all?
Why make RACE the trait of value when it's INTELLIGENCE that matters?
I remember once in another newsgroup you said one of the dumbest things
I'd ever heard. You said that THOMAS KINKADE represented the only real
art. In a single stroke of ignorance, you dismissed all other artists,
and you went after "modern art" in particular. That you can't
comprehend modern art shows you're of a lower intelligence. Clearly
people who can comprehend it, as I do, will disagree.
Now to this. If an average intelligence LOWER than the average
intelligence of the white race mars the acceptability of that race, it
follows that YOU -- having proven to be of lower-than-average
intelligence by your previous statement on art -- have a marred
acceptability. It follows then that YOU are someone with whom someone
else of AVERAGE intelligence -- someone, say, who can appreciate an
artist other than Thomas Kinkade -- should not mingle.
True?
True.
But you've made RACE the defining category, thereby borrowing YOUR value
from the betters of your own race. Luckily for you, our averages are
high enough to carry you.
--
Alric Knebel