Politics is the new religion
Chom Noamsky
into religion, complete with unquestionable truths. Witness the crusade
against liberals, it has all the characteristics of religious zealotry.
Debate is no longer relevant. Seething hatred is being treated as
legitimate political expression. Malicious untruths are promoted as
free speech. Exposing lies is no longer relevant or meaningful, once
the cognitive distortions have been firmly implanted in susceptible
minds those minds are lost to rationalism and reason. And the attack of
the zealots is succeeding. Scary stuff for the future of liberal democracy:
"Conservatism has been converted into a religious belief, and now
compromise doesn't have a prayer"
Phlip
you... you mean the Far Right now behaves exactly like the Taliban? I'm shocked!
Shocked, I tell you!
Matt
Round up the usual suspects.
To be honest, politics and religion have always been close together.
Power is power,
after all.
Matt
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
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And this another good example. The left has adopted a tactic of claiming
that the right is guilty of what they know they are guilty of so as to
destroy debate.
-Eddie Haskell
Presidente Debacle
bingo!
Rand
Notable Conservative blogger Andrew Sullivan wrote this just last week:
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01 Dec 2009 12:31 pm
Leaving the Right
It's an odd formulation in some ways as "the right" is not really a single
entity. But in so far as it means the dominant mode of discourse among the
institutions and blogs and magazines and newspapers and journals that support
the GOP, Charles Johnson is absolutely right in my view to get off that wagon
for the reasons has has stated. Read his testament. It is full of emotion, but
also of honesty.
The relationship of a writer to a party or movement is, of course, open to
discussion. I understand the point that Jonah Goldberg makes that politics is
not about pure intellectual individualism; it requires understanding power,
its organization and the actual choices that real politics demands. You can
hold certain principles inviolate and yet also be prepared to back politicians
or administrations that violate them because it's better than the actual
alternatives at hand. I also understand the emotional need to have a
EdmundBurke1771 default party position, other things being equal. But there
has to come a point at which a movement or party so abandons core principles
or degenerates into such a rhetorical septic system that you have to take a
stand. It seems to me that now is a critical time for more people whose
principles lie broadly on the center-right to do so - against the conservative
degeneracy in front of us. Those who have taken such a stand - to one degree
or other - demand respect. And this blog, while maintaining its resistance to
cliquishness, has been glad to link to writers as varied as Bruce Bartlett or
David Frum or David Brooks or Steve Chapman or Kathleen Parker or Conor
Friedersdorf or Jim Manzi or Jeffrey Hart or Daniel Larison who have broken
ranks in some way or other.
I can't claim the same courage as these folks because I've always been fickle
in partisan terms. To have supported Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Dole and
Bush and Kerry and Obama suggests I never had a party to quit. I think that
may be because I wasn't born here. I have no deep loyalty to either American
party in my bones or family or background, and admire presidents from both
parties. My partisanship remains solely British - I'm a loyal Tory. But my
attachment to the Anglo-American conservative political tradition, as I
understand it, is real and deep and the result of sincere reflection on the
world as I see it. And I want that tradition to survive because I believe it
is a vital complement to liberalism in sustaining the genius and wonder of the
modern West.
For these reasons, I found it intolerable after 2003 to support the movement
that goes by the name "conservative" in America. I still do, even though I am
much more of a limited government type than almost any Democrat and cannot
bring myself to call myself a liberal (because I'm not). My reasons were not
dissimilar to Charles Johnson, who, like me, was horrified by 9/11, loathes
Jihadism, and wants to defeat it as effectively as possible. And his little
manifesto prompts me to write my own (the full version is in "The Conservative
Soul"). Here goes:
I cannot support a movement that claims to believe in limited government but
backed an unlimited domestic and foreign policy presidency that assumed
illegal, extra-constitutional dictatorial powers until forced by the system to
return to the rule of law.
I cannot support a movement that exploded spending and borrowing and blames
its successor for the debt.
Oakeshott I cannot support a movement that so abandoned government's minimal
and vital role to police markets and address natural disasters that it gave us
Katrina and the financial meltdown of 2008.
I cannot support a movement that holds torture as a core value.
I cannot support a movement that holds that purely religious doctrine should
govern civil political decisions and that uses the sacredness of religious
faith for the pursuit of worldly power.
I cannot support a movement that is deeply homophobic, cynically deploys fear
of homosexuals to win votes, and gives off such a racist vibe that its share
of the minority vote remains pitiful.
I cannot support a movement which has no real respect for the institutions of
government and is prepared to use any tactic and any means to fight political
warfare rather than conduct a political conversation.
I cannot support a movement that sees permanent war as compatible with liberal
democratic norms and limited government.
I cannot support a movement that criminalizes private behavior in the war on
drugs.
I cannot support a movement that would back a vice-presidential candidate
manifestly unqualified and duplicitous because of identity politics and
electoral cynicism.
I cannot support a movement that regards gay people as threats to their own
families.
I cannot support a movement that does not accept evolution as a fact.
I cannot support a movement that sees climate change as a hoax and offers
domestic oil exploration as the core plank of an energy policy.
I cannot support a movement that refuses ever to raise taxes, while proposing
no meaningful reductions in government spending.
I cannot support a movement that refuses to distance itself from a demagogue
like Rush Limbaugh or a nutjob like Glenn Beck.
I cannot support a movement that believes that the United States should be the
sole global power, should sustain a permanent war machine to police the entire
planet, and sees violence as the core tool for international relations.
Does this make me a "radical leftist" as Michelle Malkin would say?
Emphatically not. But it sure disqualifies me from the current American right.
To paraphrase Reagan, I didn't leave the conservative movement. It left me.
And increasingly, I'm not alone.
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Eddie Haskell
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High five.
<smack>
-Eddie Haskell
Chom Noamsky
> And this another good example. The left has adopted a tactic of claiming
> that the right is guilty of what they know they are guilty of so as to
> destroy debate.
You mean like stating "liberals hate America". This is considered an
absolute truth, not open to debate, it has become an article of faith on
the right. How do you debate this kind of religious zealotry? The
sanity in public discourse is all but gone... people like "Eddie
Haskell" have replaced meaningful debate with extremist partisan zealotry.
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
> Eddie Haskell wrote:
>
>> And this another good example. The left has adopted a tactic of claiming
>> that the right is guilty of what they know they are guilty of so as to
>> destroy debate.
>
> You mean like stating "liberals hate America". This is considered an
> absolute truth, not open to debate, it has become an article of faith on
> the right. How do you debate this kind of religious zealotry?
Uhmm.. Well you could lie and claim that you didn't vote into office a man
who supported financially and attended an anti-American hate church for over
20 years.
Goddamn America..
Damn, am I good or what?
-Eddie Haskell
Chom Noamsky
> "Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
> news:ELzUm.55662$Db2.45568@edtnps83...
>> Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>
>>> And this another good example. The left has adopted a tactic of claiming
>>> that the right is guilty of what they know they are guilty of so as to
>>> destroy debate.
>> You mean like stating "liberals hate America". This is considered an
>> absolute truth, not open to debate, it has become an article of faith on
>> the right. How do you debate this kind of religious zealotry?
>
> Uhmm.. Well you could lie and claim that you didn't vote into office a man
> who supported financially and attended an anti-American hate church for over
> 20 years.
>
> Goddamn America..
>
> Damn, am I good or what?
Thank you for proving my point.
Archie
>
> Damn, am I good or what?
>
> -Eddie Haskell
>
You better stick to arguing with your trailer park brethern Bubba. We
don't need you making this 'liberal' look good. Asshole. Stay away.
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
Your point wasn't that Hussein hates America and the proof is in the fact
that he supported financially and attended an anti-American hate church for
over 20 years, stupid. How do you explain that? Can't, can you, stupid? How
could anyone who loves this country do that? They couldn't, stupid, and you
simply don't give a shit, because you are of the same mindset.
Now, fuck off. You fool no one.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Why did you delete the part where I proved that liberals hate America
because you voted in a man who supported financially and attended an
anti-American hate church for over 20 years, coward? Why do you fucking hate
America? Why are you a liar? Why do you lie and claim you don't?
-Eddie Haskell
Chom Noamsky
The zeal... the level of conviction in your political beliefs... it can
only be described as religious. Organize people together who have the
same strong beliefs and you have religion. In this case "anti-American"
is equivalent to labeling someone a devil worshiper.
Eddie, if you could only see how ridiculous you've become...
Chom Noamsky
Hysterical!
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
You deny reality as stunningly as someone who believes the earth is 8000
years old. Hussein sat there and listened to anti-American hate and could
not possibly have done that unless he agreed. Why do you deny this fact with
all the fervor of a religious conviction?
> Organize people together who have the same strong beliefs and you have
> religion. In this case "anti-American" is equivalent to labeling someone
> a devil worshiper.
Correct.
> Eddie, if you could only see how ridiculous you've become...
Keep talking out of your ass. It's amusing. Goddamn America.. Hussein sat
and listened to that shit for over 20 years and contributed financially to
it. No one could do that unless they agreed with it and you know it it. Why
does Hussein hate America. Why did you vote for someone who hates America.
Why? Because you are of the same mindset. You fool no one, Chumpsky.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
Still can't explain why you voted in a man for president that went to and
supported financially an anti-American racist hate church can you?
-Eddie Haskell
Archie
>
> Why did you delete the part where I proved that liberals hate America
> because you voted in a man who supported financially and attended an
> anti-American hate church for over 20 years, coward? Why do you fucking hate
> America? Why are you a liar? Why do you lie and claim you don't?
>
> -Eddie Haskell
I don't like liberals either Eddie. And I don't hate America. America
can be strong and free like Canada if only you made a few fundamental
changes.
Eddie Haskell
Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
How's that waiting line for vital medical procedures been moving along for
ya?
-Eddie Haskell
Chom Noamsky
See what I mean. I pointed out how politics has become religion and you
fall over yourself proving my point. That's how faith works, something
doesn't have to be true, you only have to believe it's true. I'm not an
Obama fan, in fact I'm a Canadian who has come to despise American
politics and any politics, precisely because people like you have turned
it into something religious. There is no longer any rational discussion
or objective analysis, just the faithful pushing a party line. A better
specimen than you could not have jumped into this thread to prove my point.
Chom Noamsky
> Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
The US has penis envy?
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
Damn, there you go again. You claim that stating "liberals hate America" is
born of some sort of religious conviction and when I prove it demonstrably
true you revert back to your religious conviction that it is somehow open to
debate. It isn't. Hussein attended and supported an anti-American hate
church for over 20 years and libs had no problem with it whatsoever. Now
stop clinging to your irrational fundamentalist attitude that this is still
debatable.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
> Eddie Haskell wrote:
>
>> Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
>
> The US has penis envy?
Of Canada? No, that would be called little pee pee ridicule.
-Eddie Haskell
Chom Noamsky
> Damn, there you go again. You claim that stating "liberals hate America" is
> born of some sort of religious conviction and when I prove it demonstrably
> true you revert back to your religious conviction that it is somehow open to
> debate. It isn't. Hussein attended and supported an anti-American hate
> church for over 20 years and libs had no problem with it whatsoever. Now
> stop clinging to your irrational fundamentalist attitude that this is still
> debatable.
I'm not trying to debate it, I'm pointing out that debate no longer
matters when politics becomes religion. You have set a rigid belief and
no amount of discussion, facts, or reason is going to change that
belief. The belief itself is irrelevant, it's only a case example, I
could challenge your belief a thousand different ways but once something
becomes and an absolute truth it's unquestionable... closed to debate.
That's the comedy here... you keep responding with religious conviction
and certainty... you have no doubt what you are saying is an absolute
gospel truth.... the belief has become an article of faith for you. So
you only continue to validate my point.
Chom Noamsky
You seem to suffer a lot of anxiety when it comes to the male organ.
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
See? That's just what I'm talking about. You cling to your fundamentalist
religious belief that Hussein doesn't hate America in the face of
irrefutable facts. No amount of proof will sway you from your dogma. You
take it on blind faith and it's become entrenched in your psyche to the
point that acknowledging reality would upset your whole world view. So to
protect yourself you deny reality. Otherwise you'd have to undergo a
complete mental realignment, and that would simply be too painful for you.
So you continue to cling to your fundamentalist view that Hussein doesn't
hate America.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
Are you hitting on me again?
-Eddie Haskell
Chom Noamsky
Eddie... what caused you to react so defensively to my post? Obviously
I hit a nerve... is it because deep down you know partisan politics has
become an absurd game of extremism, something completely void of
critical thinking, common sense and rationalism? I think you do know
and that's why my post made you so angry... because if there is anything
people hate it's having their silly beliefs exposed as folly. That's
why you keep countering with rhetorical absurdities... because you know
I'm right.
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
No need to get cross, Chumpsky. I'm merely pointing out the fact that you've
been so conditioned by your extremist ideology that you simply can't be
reached. Your partisan mentality has been honed by years and years of
fundamentalist dogma that you cannot seem to rise above. This state has
skewed your perception of reality to the point you no longer live in the
real world - the world in which Hussein hates America.
-Eddie Haskell
Chom Noamsky
Thanks for playing, you've been a good useful idiot.
Chom Noamsky
> "Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
> news:nTwVm.56018$Db2.31640@edtnps83...
>> Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>> "Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
>>> news:V4vVm.55998$Db2.31487@edtnps83...
>>>> Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
>>>> The US has penis envy?
>>> Of Canada? No, that would be called little pee pee ridicule.
>> You seem to suffer a lot of anxiety when it comes to the male organ.
>
> Are you hitting on me again?
Pee-pee humour gets old after about age six....
Archie
>
> Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
>
> How's that waiting line for vital medical procedures been moving along for
> ya?
>
> -Eddie Haskell
Yes. We are all clamouring to either live in the USA or to be invaded
and bombed by you so American can provide us freedom and democracy.
I hope I get my facts straight here. I'm pretty nervous arguing with
an American.
In Canada we have about 50 million people that have no medical
insurance whatsoever. We are too poor to pay for it.
Please invade us.
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
I win.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
What an immature thing to say.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
On Dec 14, 12:45 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <f...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
>
> How's that waiting line for vital medical procedures been moving along for
> ya?
>
> -Eddie Haskell
> Yes. We are all clamouring to either live in the USA or to be invaded
> and bombed by you so American can provide us freedom and democracy.
Can't answer the question I see.
> I hope I get my facts straight here. I'm pretty nervous arguing with
> an American.
Still can't answer.
> In Canada we have about 50 million people that have no medical
> insurance whatsoever. We are too poor to pay for it.
See democrats, what your lies do to our reputation in the world, as if you
ever gave a shit?
http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51443
> Please invade us.
Nah, we'd just impose liberty and you'd hate that. You'd rather have your
nanny state to wipe your ass and blow your nose. Me? I prefer my freedom.
-Eddie Haskell
Chom Noamsky
Yup, Eddie is about as politically religious as it gets. It's like
trying to converse with a Jehova Witness.
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
Now, see? There you go again. So awash in your dogma that you can't see
facts right there in front of your face. You've been condition by years of
relentless propaganda emanating from the DNC / MSM cabal to the point that
you've been indoctrinated into your fundamentalist leftist beliefs and no
amount of facts will sway. Why, so much so that you can't see simple facts
like the fact that Canadians wait far longer for vital procedures and
preventive care than Americans.
-Eddie Haskell
Chom Noamsky
What are you on about again? You already won didn't you? Strange for a
winner to keep reacting so defensively to everything I post. Go enjoy
your victory, or I'll have to suspect maybe your religious convictions
have gotten rattled.
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
Okay, Chumpsky.
[begin robust stars and stripes music here]
<confetti>
<balloons>
<scantily clad women spewing champagne>
-Eddie Haskell
Archie
>
> > How's that waiting line for vital medical procedures been moving along for
> > ya?
In my experience and in the experience of everybody I know when I need
medical attention there may be a wait for an hour or so at a doctors
office. So what? I can always get treatment no matter what pre
existing conditions I might have. Money or pre exist. conds. are never
issues here is socialist Canada.
I'll tell you what Eddie. You stay there on THAT side of the border
and I'll stay here on this side.
Good luck with all that freedom you have there.
Phlip
He has the freedom to pick which HMO will charge him twice what you pay (as
>shocked gasp< TAXES!), and who might RATION his health care, make him wait a
long time (hoping he'l die before demanding treatment), and who might send him
to Tijuana for treatment.
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
wrote:
"A "fact" that, as any Canadian can tell you, Eddie pulled, wet and
steaming, from his own ass.
>
Governor Swill
>> I don't like liberals either Eddie. And I don't hate America. America
>> can be strong and free like Canada if only you made a few fundamental
>> changes.
>
>Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
>
>How's that waiting line for vital medical procedures been moving along for
>ya?
Not as great as their economy, Iddy.
Swill
--
In the exam room . . .
Doctor: "Public Opt . . ."
Elephant: "SOCIALISM!"
Doctor: "Reflexes good."
Governor Swill
>>> Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
>> The US has penis envy?
>Of Canada? No, that would be called little pee pee ridicule.
Maybe he's envious of your clit, Iddy.
Eddie Haskell
"Governor Swill" <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Eddie Haskell" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>>"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote
>>> Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>>> Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
>>> The US has penis envy?
>
>>Of Canada? No, that would be called little pee pee ridicule.
>
> Maybe he's envious of your clit, Iddy.
He should be. My old lady is HOT.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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Boy, sucks being an inferior, huh Canuck?
http://www.waittimealliance.ca/June2009/Report-card-June2009_e.pdf
"A new study finds the socialist's shining example of government run
healthcare, Canada, has out-of-control wait times for treatment. Here are a
few examples. The average wait for urinary incontinence treatment - 247
days. Chronic diarrhea treatment - 260 days. Colonoscopy screenings - 148
days. And, if you have an emergency? Let's just say you better bring a
sleeping bag. The average wait time for ER care is 23.5 hours. People are
literally dying waiting for their second rate healthcare."
http://thedailyinstigator.com/2009/07/wait-times-canadian-healthcare-is-to-die-for/
"Statistics Show Canadian Healthcare Is Inferior to American System"
"Long wait times for access to certain surgeries and diagnostic procedures
have been a growing problem of the Canadian health care system."
http://canadaonline.about.com/od/healthcarecanada/a/waittimes.htm
"Socialized medicine has meant rationed care and lack of innovation. Small
wonder Canadians are looking to the market."
http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_canadian_healthcare.html
Canadians criticize Canadian health care wait times
http://otherclub.blogspot.com/2009/07/canadians-criticize-canadian-health.html
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
And good luck to you when you die of cancer.
Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada
Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 12:55 PM
Wesley J. Smith
One of the excellent aspects of the current American health care system is
that most people can get immediate help if they become very ill. Not true in
places like Canada or the UK, where waiting lines for crucial imaging tests
can range in the several months-months that for cancer patients can mean the
difference between living and dying.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
> "Eddie Haskell" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>
>>> I don't like liberals either Eddie. And I don't hate America. America
>>> can be strong and free like Canada if only you made a few fundamental
>>> changes.
>>
>>Oh, I see what it is. You're a Canuck suffering from US penis envy.
>>
>>How's that waiting line for vital medical procedures been moving along for
>>ya?
>
> Not as great as their economy, Iddy.
Well, yeah. Harper vs Hussein. Duhh..
[points finger]
Bwahahahahaha!!
-Eddie Haskell
Archie
>
> > Maybe he's envious of your clit, Iddy.
>
> He should be. My old lady is HOT.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
Leave your mother out of this.
Eddie Haskell
I was referring to Veronica.
-Eddie Haskell
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
wrote:
Just one problem, little eddie; you forgot to compare it to your
vastly superior American system. You know; the one where a lot of
people have no waiting time because they can't get the treatments at
all. More of those then there are Canadians. Did you know that,
Eddie?
Oh, and compare waiting times for those lucky enough to have coverage
and compare. You'll find about 10% difference on elective treatments,
and the Canadian system is usually better on the priority ones.
>
>http://thedailyinstigator.com/2009/07/wait-times-canadian-healthcare-is-to-die-for/
>
>"Statistics Show Canadian Healthcare Is Inferior to American System"
"News for Conservatives". Well, no point in wasting any time on that
drivel. It's the sort of thing that made you stupid before your time,
Eddie.
>
>http://www.usnews.com/blogs/peter-roff/2009/07/28/statistics-show-canada-healthcare-is-inferior-to-american-system.html
>
>"Long wait times for access to certain surgeries and diagnostic procedures
>have been a growing problem of the Canadian health care system."
>
Indeed so, and it's still better than what awaits far more Americans
than Canadians.
>http://canadaonline.about.com/od/healthcarecanada/a/waittimes.htm
>
>"Socialized medicine has meant rationed care and lack of innovation. Small
>wonder Canadians are looking to the market."
Same as your first link, only four years earlier.
>
>http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_canadian_healthcare.html
>
>Canadians criticize Canadian health care wait times
Odd, but Canada approved Ebrutix for Canadian use back in 2005.
http://www.bmscanada.ca/bms/news/archives/?news_id=2015
>
>http://otherclub.blogspot.com/2009/07/canadians-criticize-canadian-health.html
>
>-Eddie Haskell
Let's see: a whine because PM Harper claimed he did NOT get
preferential treatment. They felt he should have.
Archie
>
> And good luck to you when you die of cancer.
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
Notice that the USA is is 38 - and poor little socialist Cuba is 37.
Canada is ranked at 11.
Try really hard - maybe you can match Cuba. LOL
Eddie Haskell
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
A high black population in the US skews the statistics.
Try again, amateur.
Heh heh..
Damn it's good to be me.
Heh heh..
-Eddie Haskell
Mike Flannigan
> I now like to fuck animals and children. Rush wants us to.
We know.
Lately, since their crushing defeat at the hands of Obama in 2008, the
republicans have turned to sex with animals and children to assuage their
rejection by mainstream America. Looks like Hispanics will number far more
than Republicans by the time it comes for them to lose in 2010, making the
right one of the smallest minorities in American history.
Here are some of Eddie Haskell's heroes:
Icons of Republicanism in the 21st Century!
Republican anti-abortion activist Neal Horsley admitted to having sex with a
mule
Republican supporter Pastor Ted Haggard, president of the 30-million member
National Association of Evangelicals, denounced gays and illegal drugs but was
later exposed
as a gay Crystal Meth user
Republican Senator Larry Craig was arrested for lewd conduct in the men's
restroom at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after
"sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old
boy.
Republican aide Alan David Berlin was arrested on charges that he wanted to
engage in sex acts with a 15-year-old boy while dressed in a panda costume.
Republican news producer Aaron Bruns was arrested on charges of possessing
child pornography.
Republican activist and former presidential campaign chairman Jeffrey Claude
Bartleson was arrested on charges of sexually molesting a 5-year old boy.
Republican activist and former chairman of the Christian County Republicans
Royce Fessenden pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree child molestation
and one count of second-degree statutory sodomy.
Republican parole board officer and former legislator George C. (Chris)
Ortloff pleaded guilty to attempting to lure 11- and 12-year-old girls to have
sex with him.
Republican legislative aide Robert R. Groezinger was arrested for possessing
child pornography.
Republican legislator Robert A. McKee pleaded guilty to possessing child
pornography.
Republican legislator Scott Muschany was charged with molesting a 14-year old
girl.
Republican chief of staff Eric Feltner pleaded guilty to showing pornography
to a 13-year old girl.
Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted
of sexual exploitation of a child.
Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of
child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and
a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex
from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of
his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by President
Bush's attorney general.
Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began
investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of
his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age
of 16.
Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling
underage girls.
Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with
a 14-year old boy.
Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after
allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-
year old girls.
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for
molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a
14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times
newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the
internet.
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to
molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of
soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for
Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old
girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year
old boy.
Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two
girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the
petition business.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-
year-old girl.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to
sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal
prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography
over the internet.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two
15-year old girls.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two
girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in
prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage
teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child
rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president
Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old
girl he murdered.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to
possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody
who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years
probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex
with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004
presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual
affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an
inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years
in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-
Gore television commercial.
Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the
White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White
House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with
a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn
charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes
involving children.
Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted
sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same
charge.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a
congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to
an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child
pornography on his home computer.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with
having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a
video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into
custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an
underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-
year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his
12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were
reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional
values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for
permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals
to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years
in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay
couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his
daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years
probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree
sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts
of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing
himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of
molesting a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male
child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a
teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of
molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to
unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping
a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child
pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal
prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative,
Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his
possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall
was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls
over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military
man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-
year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota
governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with
four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve
Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo
molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell
Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr.,
was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with
grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over
the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number
of young women.
Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children
in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing
information about the anti-American insurgency.
Archie
> A high black population in the US skews the statistics.
>
> Try again, amateur.
>
> Heh heh..
>
> Damn it's good to be me.
>
> Heh heh..
>
> -Eddie Haskell
I'm sure it is good to be you - no brain no pain.
The 50 million uninsured in the USA are Black? Or poor? Or is there no
poverty in the USA? Heh heh..Or are you just a racist asshole?
You sure you want that name Eddie Haskell? You'd be more suited to
'The Beav' because you stand out as a particularily stupid cunt. Heh
heh..
Harold Burton
Mike Flannigan <mflan...@jam.rr.com> wrote:
> Lately, since their crushing defeat at the hands of Obama in 2008, the
> republicans......
More lefturd delusion. Buyers' remorse has set in with a vengeance.
Can hardly wait until november, 2010.
Snicker.
Neil K
I suspect your humour is a little too hairy for Haskell .......
Archie
> I suspect your humour is a little too hairy for Haskell .......
The cowardly little asshole ran away. Too bad. I wanted to ask him
about health care in the USA.
I think the basis for it is profit. So the more someone is at risk or
the sicker somebody is the more likley it is they will be cut off.
Look at this from Business Week: "Medical problems caused 62% of all
personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. in 2007, according to a study
by Harvard researchers. And in a finding that surprised even the
researchers, 78% of those filers had medical insurance at the start of
their illness, including 60.3% who had private coverage, not Medicare
or Medicaid."
When you think about it, it must put enormous strain on pretty much
all Americans. Even if you're insured you have plenty to worry about.
The profit motive has to tend toward insuring the healthy and getting
rid of people that need medical care. Even if laws were put in place
to make sure the HMOs insure high risk cases, there would always be
pressure to crack down on the sick, the disabled, and the elderly.
In Canada the worse off you are health-wise, the higher priority you
are in terms of response by the system. In the USA (profit motive) it
has to be the other way around.
C'mon Eddie Haskell. Don't hide. We have a lot to talk about here.
Chom Noamsky
> "Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:6ebb19c6-7f02-4f87...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 15, 1:40 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <f...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>>> How's that waiting line for vital medical procedures been moving along
>>> for
>>> ya?
>
>> In my experience and in the experience of everybody I know when I need
>> medical attention there may be a wait for an hour or so at a doctors
>> office. So what? I can always get treatment no matter what pre
>> existing conditions I might have. Money or pre exist. conds. are never
>> issues here is socialist Canada.
>
>> I'll tell you what Eddie. You stay there on THAT side of the border
>> and I'll stay here on this side.
>
>> Good luck with all that freedom you have there.
>
> And good luck to you when you die of cancer.
>
> Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada
"Health outcomes often better in Canada than U.S."
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/04/18/health-canada-us.html
The most striking figure is the cost. We spend $2,900 per individual
and the U.S. $7,100. Everyone in Canada is covered... Canadians live
longer... enjoy generally superior outcomes... for less than half the
cost. Just getting diagnosed in Canada gives us a 5% mortality
advantage over Americans.
What's that sound? Why, it's the sound of Eddie's fantastically bloated
ego going "pop".
Phlip
> "Health outcomes often better in Canada than U.S."
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/04/18/health-canada-us.html
>
> The most striking figure is the cost. We spend $2,900 per individual
> and the U.S. $7,100. Everyone in Canada is covered... Canadians live
> longer... enjoy generally superior outcomes... for less than half the
> cost. Just getting diagnosed in Canada gives us a 5% mortality
> advantage over Americans.
>
> What's that sound? Why, it's the sound of Eddie's fantastically bloated
> ego going "pop".
But Canadians are flowing over the border to get treatment here because they are
rationed by their gov't Death Panels!
etc. etc. etc.
Chom Noamsky
> Boy, sucks being an inferior, huh Canuck?
Nope. Just getting diagnosed in Canada means a 5% advantage in
mortality. That is *extremely* impressive, and very embarrassing for
you Americans, considering we spend less than half on health care and
everyone is entitled. Yes, wait times are a problem, but we still do
better than you.
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/04/18/health-canada-us.html
It's also a big myth that there are no wait times in the U.S.
Chom Noamsky
Americans have to deal with three kinds of health care rationing:
#1... not having any insurance (30-50 million Americans)
#2... having insurance but being denied services
#3... rationing of other necessities in order to afford insurance
Health care is generally rationed by money on both sides of the
border... just in different ways.
Neil K
"Phlip" <phli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%7AWm.24468$_b5....@newsfe22.iad...
Canadians are pouring over the border to push Americans with less money
further back in the line and for some the added 'foreigners being served
means that they will receive no health care.
Some plan you have ...... helps us for us though
Roy
==
That is mostly from CONservative provincial governments who just hate
to 'waste' provincial money on "people' and would rather spend it on
promoting business through "corporate welfare". Our Alberta gov't
pledged $2 billion this year for the drilling of more natural gas
wells when there is a glut of gas and one helluva lot of "shut-in
wells" that are not allowed to produce because it would affect the oil
production from the same leases. The province PAYS for these wells to
be "shut-in" all the time they are set aside.
Then there are the NEW projects where Alberta promises to assist the
oil industry by spending more BILLIONS pumping CO2 down into old oil
formations to recover more oil from which we receive very little in
the way of royalties.
At the same time, our Health Dep't cuts hundreds of millions from
spending for health and plans on closing even more beds and delaying
even more operations of all kinds.
Its wicked, I tell you, and it is getting worse every year.
==
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
One hundred and fifty million of them, just this morning!
>
>etc. etc. etc.
Governor Swill
>>>How's that waiting line for vital medical procedures been moving along for
>>>ya?
>>
>> Not as great as their economy, Iddy.
>
>Well, yeah. Harper vs Hussein. Duhh..
>
>[points finger]
>
>Bwahahahahaha!!
Hey, he's doing better with his inherited recession than Reagan was
with his 1982 recession. You know, the one that started more than a
year after Ronnie had been in office and resulted in 11% unemployment?
And the best part is that if Obama merely doubles the national debt
he'll have outperformed Reagan on that too!
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
Not nearly as long as Canada's. Sucks for you, huh, Chumpsky?
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
On Dec 16, 5:44 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <f...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
> A high black population in the US skews the statistics.
>
> Try again, amateur.
>
> Heh heh..
>
> Damn it's good to be me.
>
> Heh heh..
>
> -Eddie Haskell
> I'm sure it is good to be you - no brain no pain.
> The 50 million uninsured in the USA are Black? Or poor?
Boy, it's must suck to be you.
Obama Falsely Claims There Are 47 Million Uninsured Americans
Wednesday, July 22, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
(CNSNews.com) - In a nationally televised primetime press conference
tonight, President Barack Obama falsely claimed there are 47 million
Americans without health insurance.
This inflated claim of the number of uninsured Americans was even higher
than the false claim of 46 million uninsured Americans that the president's
Council of Economic Advisers made last month.
The Census Bureau says that there are only 35.92 million uninsured Americans
and that this number includes 9.1 million people who earn more than $75,000
a year and simply choose not to purchase insurance.
"This is not just about the 47 million Americans who have no health
insurance," Obama said in a prepared statement at the start of his
Wednesday night press conference. "Reform is about every American who has
ever feared that they may lose their coverage if they become too sick, or
lose their job, or change their job."
But Obama's claim of 47 million uninsured is not supported by the Census
Bureau report, "Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United
States: 2007," which was published in August 2008 and is the government's
most up-to-date official report on the number of uninsured in the United
States.
This Census report says that within the borders of the United States as of
2007 there were 45.65 people without health insurance. But this number,
according to the Census Bureau, included 9.73 million foreigners, leaving
only 35.92 Americans who were uninsured.
The Census Bureau also said that the number of uninsured people was
declining.
"Both the percentage and number of people without health insurance decreased
in 2007," said the Census Bureau report.
Among the uninsured in the United States, the Census Bureau said, there were
also 9.1 million people making more than $75,000 per year who did not choose
to purchase health insurance.
On June 2, the White House Council of Economic Advisers released a report
entitled, "The Economic Case for Health Care Reform." The report falsely
claimed that there were 46 million Americans who lacked health insurance--as
opposed to the 47 million claimed by the president tonight.
"Perhaps the most visible sign of the need for health care reform is the 46
million Americans currently without health insurance," said the CEA report.
CEA Chair Christina Romer published an op-ed on Yahoo! News the same day
that made the same false claim. "Health care expenditures in this country
are currently 18 percent of GDP and, without change, will keep rising, until
they account for nearly one-third of our total output by 2040," wrote Romer.
"Even with this exorbitant bill, about 46 million Americans lack health
insurance coverage today, and this number is predicted to rise to 72 million
over the next three decades."
Like the CEA report and commentary by CEA Chair Romer, President Obama's
inflated claim of the number of uninsured Americans was not an off-the-cuff
remark. It came in the prepared text at the beginning of the president's
press conference that should have been checked and vetted by White House
staff.
The president cited no source for his claim that there are 47 million
uninsured Americans.
Since the White House first falsely claimed in June that there were 46
million uninsured Americans, CNSNews.com has reported on the correct Census
Bureau figure on multiple occasions. Radio show host Mark Levin has also
repeatedly pointed out the discrepancy between the White House claim of 46
million uninsured Americans and the Census Bureau's assertion that almost 10
million of that number are not Americans but foreigners who happened to be
present in the United States in 2007.
Each year in August, the Census Bureau releases an annual report citing the
number of uninsured-"Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the
United States." The next report should be released next month, reporting
the number of uninsured for 2008.
The numbers in the new report-including the number of foreigners uninsured
in the United States-could play into the health-care reform debate,
especially if a bill is not passed by Congress before the August recess.
The Census report released in 2005, said there were 45.82 million uninsured
people in the United States in 2004 of which 9.54 million were foreigners.
This means that the number of uninsured Americans declined from 36.28 to
35.92 between 2004 and 2007.
Meanwhile, according to the Census Bureau, the number of uninsured
foreigners in the United States increased by 190,000 during the same period.
Eddie Haskell
On Dec 16, 5:44 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <f...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
> A high black population in the US skews the statistics.
>
> Try again, amateur.
>
> Heh heh..
>
> Damn it's good to be me.
>
> Heh heh..
>
> -Eddie Haskell
> I'm sure it is good to be you - no brain no pain.
> The 50 million uninsured in the USA are Black? Or poor? Or is there no
> poverty in the USA? Heh heh..Or are you just a racist asshole?
> You sure you want that name Eddie Haskell?
Btw, Betty and Veronica double-teamed me. Man, that was some good pussy. Oh,
and they said you have a small dick.
http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51443
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
On Dec 16, 8:59 pm, "Neil K" <spring...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I suspect your humour is a little too hairy for Haskell .......
> The cowardly little asshole ran away. Too bad. I wanted to ask him
> about health care in the USA.
> I think the basis for it is profit.
So the idea that removing the profit motive will make something cheaper
should be applied to all industry, huh, DNC talking point parrot?
> So the more someone is at risk or
> the sicker somebody is the more likely it is they will be cut off.
Medicare denies more claims in percentages and any private health insurer.
Try again, cretin.
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/368/reportcard.pdf
-Eddie haskell
Eddie Haskell
On Dec 16, 8:59 pm, "Neil K" <spring...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I suspect your humour is a little too hairy for Haskell .......
> The cowardly little asshole ran away. Too bad. I wanted to ask him
> about health care in the USA.
> I think the basis for it is profit.
Oh, and just to pile on.
UPDATE 1-US Senate health plan would raise some premiums-CBO
Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:45am EST
Wed, Nov 18 2009
WASHINGTON, Nov 30 (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate's healthcare bill would raise
insurance premiums by at least 10 percent by 2016 for those independently
buying coverage, but subsidies would reduce the actual costs for half of
that group, the Congressional Budget Office said on Monday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN3042820120091130
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
> "Eddie Haskell" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>
>>>>How's that waiting line for vital medical procedures been moving along
>>>>for
>>>>ya?
>>>
>>> Not as great as their economy, Iddy.
>>
>>Well, yeah. Harper vs Hussein. Duhh..
>>
>>[points finger]
>>
>>Bwahahahahaha!!
>
> Hey, he's doing better with his inherited recession than Reagan was
> with his 1982 recession. You know, the one that started more than a
> year after Ronnie had been in office and resulted in 11% unemployment?
How many times have I told you that getting off the pump up the money supply
addiction was like a junkie going through withdrawals? Same will have to be
done to get us off Hussein economics.
> And the best part is that if Obama merely doubles the national debt
> he'll have outperformed Reagan on that too!
The fact that he will quadruple it aside, if Hussein merely doubles it he
will have increased it more than Reagan ever could have dreamed.
-Eddie Haskell
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
Unless you happen to be one of the 45 million uninsured workers in
America.
Eddie, did you know that's 150% of the population of Canada?
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
> "Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:c6eef2e5-b13b-497f...@r1g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 16, 5:44 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <f...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>
>> A high black population in the US skews the statistics.
>>
>> Try again, amateur.
>>
>> Heh heh..
>>
>> Damn it's good to be me.
>>
>> Heh heh..
>>
>> -Eddie Haskell
>
>> I'm sure it is good to be you - no brain no pain.
>
>> The 50 million uninsured in the USA are Black? Or poor?
>
> Boy, it's must suck to be you.
>
> Obama Falsely Claims There Are 47 Million Uninsured Americans Wednesday,
> July 22, 2009
> By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
>
> (CNSNews.com) - In a nationally televised primetime press conference
> tonight, President Barack Obama falsely claimed there are 47 million
> Americans without health insurance.
You know if it's coming from CNS, it's going to be a fucking lie.
" Meanwhile, the number of people without health insurance coverage rose
from 45.7 million in 2007 to 46.3 million in 2008, while the percentage
remained unchanged at 15.4 percent."
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/
income_wealth/014227.html
Eddie Haskell
"5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <de...@dead.com> wrote in message
news:4OmdndXEAs3USbLW...@posted.carinet...
Did you know that you're a brainwashed moron?
Obama Falsely Claims There Are 47 Million Uninsured Americans
Wednesday, July 22, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
(CNSNews.com) - In a nationally televised primetime press conference
tonight, President Barack Obama falsely claimed there are 47 million
Americans without health insurance.
This inflated claim of the number of uninsured Americans was even higher
http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/article.aspx?RsrcID=51443
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:43:05 -0600, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>
>> "Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:c6eef2e5-b13b-497f...@r1g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 16, 5:44 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <f...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A high black population in the US skews the statistics.
>>>
>>> Try again, amateur.
>>>
>>> Heh heh..
>>>
>>> Damn it's good to be me.
>>>
>>> Heh heh..
>>>
>>> -Eddie Haskell
>>
>>> I'm sure it is good to be you - no brain no pain.
>>
>>> The 50 million uninsured in the USA are Black? Or poor?
>>
>> Boy, it's must suck to be you.
>>
>> Obama Falsely Claims There Are 47 Million Uninsured Americans Wednesday,
>> July 22, 2009
>> By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
>>
>> (CNSNews.com) - In a nationally televised primetime press conference
>> tonight, President Barack Obama falsely claimed there are 47 million
>> Americans without health insurance.
>
> You know if it's coming from CNS, it's going to be a fucking lie.
Typical democrat shoot the messenger tactic noted.
http://www.canadaka.net/forums/us-politics-f18/debunking-the-47-million-uninsured-myth-t82598.html
> " Meanwhile, the number of people without health insurance coverage rose
> from 45.7 million in 2007 to 46.3 million in 2008, while the percentage
> remained unchanged at 15.4 percent."
> http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/
> income_wealth/014227.html
Didn't read the article, huh?
Among the uninsured in the United States, the Census Bureau said, there
were also 9.1 million people making more than $75,000 per year who did
not choose to purchase health insurance.
This Census report says that within the borders of the United States as
of 2007 there were 45.65 people without health insurance. But this
number, according to the Census Bureau, included 9.73 million
foreigners, leaving only 35.92 Americans who were uninsured.
Obama Falsely Claims There Are 47 Million Uninsured Americans
Wednesday, July 22, 2009
By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
(CNSNews.com) - In a nationally televised primetime press conference
tonight, President Barack Obama falsely claimed there are 47 million
Americans without health insurance.
This inflated claim of the number of uninsured Americans was even higher
Eddie Haskell
"Chom Noamsky" <d...@bark.grrrr> wrote in message
Did you forget about the fact that the US has a much higher black population
that skews the stats again, Chumpsky?
Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada
Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 12:55 PM
Wesley J. Smith
One of the excellent aspects of the current American health care system is
that most people can get immediate help if they become very ill. Not true in
places like Canada or the UK, where waiting lines for crucial imaging tests
can range in the several months-months that for cancer patients can mean the
difference between living and dying.
-Eddie Haskell
Phlip
> and listened to that shit for over 20 years and contributed financially to
> it. No one could do that unless they agreed with it and you know it it. Why
> does Hussein hate America. Why did you vote for someone who hates America.
> Why? Because you are of the same mindset. You fool no one, Chumpsky.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
Eddie! Mexico City just legalized same-sex marriages! We are
surrounded (counting Holland)!
Don't you have a new topic to make a fool of yourself with here??
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
Here you go, bubbles.
You know if it's coming from CNS, it's going to be a fucking lie.
" Meanwhile, the number of people without health insurance coverage rose
from 45.7 million in 2007 to 46.3 million in 2008, while the percentage
remained unchanged at 15.4 percent."
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/
income_wealth/014227.html
Now run away, little moron.
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
> "5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09" <de...@dead.com> wrote in message
> news:4OmdndTEAs2cSLLW...@posted.carinet...
>> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:43:05 -0600, Eddie Haskell wrote:
>>
>>> "Archie" <aken...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c6eef2e5-
b13b-497f-8ac...@r1g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
Sure did, and posted an up-to-date cite from the census bureau that
proves your CNS clown is either an incompetent or a liar, and in either
event, dead wrong.
Archie
>
> Medicare denies more claims in percentages and any private health insurer.
>
all.
Here's a few things that are foreign to Canadians Bubba; pre existing
condition, being turned away, financial devestation due to health
problems.
The bottom line is; profit doesn't mix with medicine. It is stupid,
insane, and barbaric.
From way up here in the Great White North - your health care debate is
more than a little interesting. It informs the rest of the world about
what NOT to do.
Archie
>
> Oh, and just to pile on.
>
> UPDATE 1-US Senate health plan would raise some premiums-CBO
>
Eddie Haskell
You're lying.
> " Meanwhile, the number of people without health insurance coverage rose
> from 45.7 million in 2007 to 46.3 million in 2008, while the percentage
> remained unchanged at 15.4 percent."
> http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/
> income_wealth/014227.html
Why did you delete this part, liar?
The Census Bureau says that there are only 35.92 million uninsured Americans
and that this number includes 9.1 million people who earn more than $75,000
a year and simply choose not to purchase insurance.
And this part?
This Census report says that within the borders of the United States as of
2007 there were 45.65 people without health insurance. But this number,
according to the Census Bureau, included 9.73 million foreigners, leaving
only 35.92 Americans who were uninsured.
Among the uninsured in the United States, the Census Bureau said, there were
also 9.1 million people making more than $75,000 per year who did not choose
to purchase health insurance.
> Now run away, little moron.
Not a chance. I'll haunt you 'till the day you die. Right here with the
facts that put the lie to everything you lying fascist democrats say.
http://risch.senate.gov/public/?p=BreakdownoftheUninsured
-Eddie Haskell
5295 Dead, 428 since 1/20/09
Because it doesn't exist outside of your moronic CNS hack's mind. If it
did, you would have a link to the source material, like I do.
Mine is directly from the census bureau. Your's is from some hack no
more honest or acquainted with reality than you are.
Eddie Haskell
On Dec 21, 2:50 pm, "Eddie Haskell" <f...@eeaeae.com> wrote:
>
> Medicare denies more claims in percentages and any private health insurer.
>
> Medicare - Canadian medicare, socialist medicare - denies no claims at
> all.
That's utterly impossible, and a quick check on google proves it.
http://www.nupge.ca/presidentscommentary/n05fe08e.htm
> Here's a few things that are foreign to Canadians Bubba; pre existing
> condition, being turned away, financial devestation due to health
> problems.
And things that you are more familiar with than in the US. Rationing.
Waiting lines. Dieing of cancer at a higher rate.
> The bottom line is; profit doesn't mix with medicine. It is stupid,
> insane, and barbaric.
The profit motive improves quality and costs. But since profit = bad and
elimination of it will lower costs, the government should take over all
private industry, right? You forgot to answer that question, DNC talking
point parrot.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Sigh.. Never mind. You're just too stupid to continue.
My mistake.
Go take it up with Jughead.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
You didn't even bother to read your OWN post, did you?
"Meanwhile, the number of people without health insurance coverage rose from
45.7 million in 2007 to 46.3 million in 2008"
45.7 is less, not more than 46.3, moron.
Now, of the number of people uninsured, 9.73 where foreigners and illegals,
leaving 35.92.
This Census report says that within the borders of the United States as of
2007 there were 45.65 people without health insurance. But this number,
according to the Census Bureau, included 9.73 million foreigners, leaving
only 35.92 Americans who were uninsured.
Do-you-un-der-stand-yet?
Then you have to subtract people who can afford it and simply do not choose
to buy it.
Then you have to subtract people who are already eligible for government
programs and simply haven't signed up.
Then you have to subtract the people eligible for employer sponsored care.
And after you are finished you are only left with 12 million without
affordable options.
And that is fewer than estimated to be left uninsured after Obamacare!
http://risch.senate.gov/public/?p=BreakdownoftheUninsured
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
"Eddie Haskell" <fg...@eeaeae.com> wrote in message
news:4b30ed69$0$13688$9a6e...@news.newshosting.com...
Oh, and then you have to subtract the number of people between coverage.
In the end what we have here is a completely manufactured crisis.
Fear-mongering to put you under the government's thumb.
Damn, you people are STUPID.
-Eddie Haskell
5306 Dead, 439 since 1/20/09
wrote:
Um, yes, Eddie, I believe the author was making that very point.
Reading you, I'm reminded of Dankie's weird claim that in Kumpuchea,
anyone who knew that two plus two equals four was considered educated.
Looking at the American right wing, that strange claim suddenly
doesn't seem so goofy.
Archie
>
> What people in Ontario pay that goes into general revenue for McGuinty
> to piss away, rather than putting where it was supposed to go; into
> our healthcare system.
He intends to privatize Hydro One, the Ontario Lottery and Gaming
Corp., and the LCBO.
Goldman Sachs, the investment bankers that made billions by betting on
the collapse of the sub prime mortgage market and have generally made
off like bandits through the misery and misfortune of America, are the
people that have been pulling McGuilty's strings on this one. So here
we have three very lucrative rackets, rackets that raise revenue for
Ontario taxpayers, being sold to private investors. Private investors
will be taking that money for themselves in the future.
And the people of Ontario? Where are they?
Silence.
Idiots.
McGuilty's fire sale will speed the process of Ontario becoming a shit
hole with widespread poverty and high crime rates. Cancer is spreading
from Detriot through Windsor and McGulity is making sure the disease
is fatal.