BREAKING -- Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA) tells it like it is
Simpson
worried that they can't pay for insuring an additional 10 million
children. They sure don't care about finding $200 billion to fight the
illegal war in Iraq."
"Where are you going to get that money? Are you going to tell us lies
like you're telling us today? Is that how you're going to fund the war?
You don't have money to fund the war or children. But you're going to
spend it to blow up innocent people if we can get enough kids to grow
old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the
president's amusement."
~Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA)
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/10/18/417935.aspx
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P.Henry
wrote:
> right after hitting his Bong he bought in downtown San Fransicko crack row
> stores.
>
>
You left out the part where he insults the troops. Are lies really the best
you can do you drunken bovine?
SyVyN11
> that they can't pay for insuring an additional 10 million children. They
> sure don't care about finding $200 billion to fight the illegal war in
> Iraq."
and stark is so fucking stupid that he doesn't get it. Those 10 million
DON'T MEET THE SCHIP REQUIRMENTS!!!! Their families can afford
catostropic medical insurance, they don't need government welfare. This
is nothing more than to get us to single payer/socialized government run
medicine.
Dianne Lewandowski
>
> and stark is so fucking stupid that he doesn't get it. Those 10 million
> DON'T MEET THE SCHIP REQUIRMENTS!!!! Their families can afford
> catostropic medical insurance, they don't need government welfare. This
> is nothing more than to get us to single payer/socialized government run
> medicine.
Setting aside the needless foul language and the right-wing propoganda
that SCHIP is a stepping stone to socialized medicine:
Those 10 millions can't afford insurance. USAToday had quite an
editorial, yesterday, on this very problem. Bush is using arbitrary
numbers that even his own administration knows is bogus. He knows that
only New York is asking for help for families earning up to $83,000
(which equals most other states at an equivalent $40,000) and that the
government can turn them down. No sense holding up the rest of the
country as hostages.
Dianne
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> Setting aside the needless foul language and the right-wing propoganda
> that SCHIP is a stepping stone to socialized medicine:
So - children should die because you're a sociopath?
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September 26, 2007
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/bw-cong/2007/sep/26/092603154.html
Many New Enrollees Would Be Uninsured
By KEVIN FREKING
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - Congress' proposal to expand a child health care program
gives states the financial incentive to expand eligibility for coverage to
families of four earning about $62,000 a year.
That's a figure that seldom emerges in the claims and counterclaims being
tossed about.
The Bush administration and many Republicans oppose the proposal as a big
step toward socialized medicine. They much prefer to cite $83,000 - the
ceiling that would apply to families of four only in New York state, and
then only if the Health and Human Services Department approves a requested
amendment to the state's current SCHIP plan.
Democrats, 45 Republicans in the House, many Senate GOP colleagues and other
supporters of the expansion prefer to rattle off the figure $40,000. They
say that about 70 percent to 80 percent of enrollees in the program would be
children in families with incomes less that twice the poverty level. The
poverty level is defined by the Census Bureau as $20,650 for a family of
four.
Just what would happen under the bill passed Tuesday by the House, up for a
vote later this week in the Senate and then sure to get a veto from
President Bush? Here are some of the claims, and what in fact the bill would
actually do:
The claim: The proposal would encourage families to substitute public
insurance for private insurance.
The facts: The Congressional Budget Office projects that about 3.8 million
people would become insured as a result of the bill, and about 2 million
more will move from private coverage to public coverage. CBO Director Peter
Orszag said the substitution rate of one-third was "pretty much as good as
you're going to get" absent a mandate on employers to provide coverage or
the insuree to buy it.
The claim: The proposal would allow coverage of families earning $83,000.
The facts: The bill essentially sets an income ceiling of three times the
poverty rate for a family of four - $61,950. Beyond that, the federal
government would not pay a state its full SCHIP match, which averages about
70 percent. New York state is seeking a waiver that would allow its
residents to qualify if their income is not above four times the poverty
rate - $82,600 for a family of four. The current administration or future
administrations would have to approve that request. New Jersey would still
be allowed to cover families with incomes three and one-half times the
poverty rate - $72,275 for a family of four.
The claim: The bill would make it easier for children of illegal immigrants
to get government-sponsored health coverage.
The facts: Currently, states are required to seek proof of U.S. citizenship
before they provide Medicaid coverage, except in emergencies. The states now
require applicants to show documents like birth certificates or passports in
order to prove U.S. citizenship and nationality. The bill would allow
applicants to submit a Social Security number instead.
Michael J. Astrue, commissioner for the Social Security Administration, said
that matching a Social Security number with an individual does not allow
officials to verify whether someone is a U.S. citizen.
The claim: The proposed 61 cent tax on a pack of cigarettes is a tax on the
poor.
The facts: According to a recent analysis by the National Center for Health
Statistics, smoking rates are higher for those who live in poverty or near
poverty than among wealthier individuals. Also, a more dated analysis cited
by the National Center for Policy Analysis, a conservative think tank,
states that two-thirds of federal tobacco taxes come from those earning less
than $40,000 a year.
(This version CORRECTS the bill sets an income ceiling for a family of four
at $61,950, not $61,800.) )
BibsBro
JFK must be spinning in his grave.
BibsBro
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> ...Stark is just another Deomoncrap traitor to America.
>
> JFK must be spinning in his grave.
>
>
But Reagan is washing Nixon's balls in hell. Who got the better deal?
BibsBro
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> "BibsBro" <Bib...@taxachusetts.com> wrote in message
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>> ...Stark is just another Deomoncrap traitor to America.
>>
>> JFK must be spinning in his grave.
>>
>>
>
> But Reagan is washing Nixon's balls in hell. Who got the better deal?
>
Only in your gay fantasies. And I'm sure you have quite a few.
Bugman
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> "Bugman" <jmpo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "BibsBro" <Bib...@taxachusetts.com> wrote in message
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>>> ...Stark is just another Deomoncrap traitor to America.
>>>
>>> JFK must be spinning in his grave.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> But Reagan is washing Nixon's balls in hell. Who got the better deal?
>>
>
> Only in your gay fantasies. And I'm sure you have quite a few.
Both Bush's will join them some day.