Re: 60 to 39 - America screwed by ignorant liberal Democrats again
No Peter and Principled
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> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:10:36 -0500, extremeone <der...@gnaa.us>
> wrote:
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> Some rightarded WATB <snip>
Some coon loving liberal got smacked down again.
For the amount of money being spent, every single American should be
getting health care, not 20 million or so.
George
universal health care system. Congratulations, you are stepping out of the
health system dark ages into an age of reason. Come and join the rest of the
civilised world.
rob
Fred Williams
They're not really. The details of the system simply mean that the power
of the HMOs to screw the system just got enshrined in law. They finally saw
that they could get money out of the government for covering people who can
not pay and giving them less treatment also.
Like Obama's peace in Iraq, with 50,000 troops still there, it's all a
sham. Nothing has changed in the empire.
--
Regards,
Fred
(remove FFFf from my email address to reply by email)
bob johnson
Democraps have discovered they can secure the votes of hapless idiots
like yourself by throwing out this meaningless crap.Hang yourself douchebag
Al Smith
The health care bill should have been scrapped. It's nothing but a
handout to the insurance companies.
-Al-
Ivan Skavinsky Skavar
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Socialism, this is the direction, this is the path to save the planet, I
don�t have the least doubt. Capitalism is the road to hell, to the
destruction of the world.
We have to start somewhere, eh comrade?
Marxist Jew Boy
Furthermore, we must redistribute wealth to niggerman to keep him
appeased and away from our gated communities.
Marxist Jew Boy
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And do so ASAP!
Ivan Skavinsky Skavar
Marxist Jew Boy
<Iv...@borscht.com> wrote:
>In article <4b350509...@free.teranews.com>,
> noway@noway. (Marxist Jew Boy) wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:17:48 -0600, Ivan Skavinsky Skavar
>> <Iv...@borscht.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <hh241n$lv$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>, "George" <rob...@ihug.co.nz>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well done America for finally starting to wise up to the merits of a
>> >> universal health care system. Congratulations, you are stepping out of the
>> >> health system dark ages into an age of reason. Come and join the rest of
>> >> the
>> >> civilised world.
>> >>
>> >> rob
>> >
>> >Socialism, this is the direction, this is the path to save the planet, I
>> >don�t have the least doubt. Capitalism is the road to hell, to the
>> >destruction of the world.
>> >
>> >We have to start somewhere, eh comrade?
>>
>> Furthermore, we must redistribute wealth to niggerman to keep him
>> appeased and away from our gated communities.
>
>Too late.
Maybe if we spread our cheeks even wider for niggerman and tell him
that we have always voted for liberal social engineering like
affirmative action reverse discrimination and sponsored Free Mumia
rallies he will not hurt us?
George
"bob johnson" <billm...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:hh2oje$fiq$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
Bad luck Bob, I am not a democrat. The US healthcare system is dark ages.
Obama is taking a step towards some enlightenment. Would be easier if right
wing nuts didn't go round screaming 'socialism'. Hard to get rational debate
mind with irrational right wingers foaming at the mouth in hysteria. Good
luck America in joining the civilised world & putting in place a public
health system.
rob
George
"Fred Williams" <fr...@frewilliams.FFFfca> wrote in message
news:hh2a68$ht1$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> George wrote:
>
>> Well done America for finally starting to wise up to the merits of a
>> universal health care system. Congratulations, you are stepping out of
>> the
>> health system dark ages into an age of reason. Come and join the rest of
>> the civilised world.
>>
> They're not really. The details of the system simply mean that the power
> of the HMOs to screw the system just got enshrined in law.
It may be a start Fred. The western world looks at the debate the US is
having and shakes it head. The rest of us wised up years ago & put in place
a public health system. We look at the hysterical rantings of the right wing
as they froth at the mouth and call Obama a communist. PMSL. The deluded
thinking just boggles our minds. Good luck mate. I hope you end up with a
universal public health system. Maybe not now however the debate must go on
eh.
rob
Daniel
> "bob johnson" <billmath...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> news:hh2oje$fiq$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
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> > George wrote:
> >> Well done America for finally starting to wise up to the merits of a
> >> universal health care system. Congratulations, you are stepping out of
> >> the health system dark ages into an age of reason. Come and join the rest
> >> of the civilised world.
>
> >> rob
> > America doesn't want universal healthcare you ass-sniffing democrap.
> > Democraps have discovered they can secure the votes of hapless idiots
> > like yourself by throwing out this meaningless crap.Hang yourself
> > douchebag
>
> Bad luck Bob, I am not a democrat. The US healthcare system is dark ages.
Is that why people come to the US from ALL OVER THE WORLD for
healthcare?
Al
wrote:
> "bob johnson" <billm...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:hh2oje$fiq$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
> > George wrote:
> >> Well done America for finally starting to wise up to the merits of a
> >> universal health care system. Congratulations, you are stepping out of
> >> the health system dark ages into an age of reason. Come and join the rest
> >> of the civilised world.
> >>
> >> rob
> > America doesn't want universal healthcare you ass-sniffing democrap.
> > Democraps have discovered they can secure the votes of hapless idiots
> > like yourself by throwing out this meaningless crap.Hang yourself
> > douchebag
>
> Bad luck Bob, I am not a democrat. The US healthcare system is dark ages.
> Obama is taking a step towards some enlightenment. Would be easier if right
> wing nuts didn't go round screaming 'socialism'.
That is because the democrats have announced their preference for
socialized medicine, no-one made it up.
George
"Al" <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:albert.finney000-59...@news-wc.giganews.com...
A public health system. Mainstream stuff, orthodoxy. Nothing to get
hysterical and foam at the mouth over. Seems some US right wingers are
however. Better still, running round screaming about Obama being a
communist. Those folk need to get a grip of reality.
rob
Al
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That is becuase he was raised a communist bastard, and surrounded
himself with all manner of communists and anti-Americans his entire life.
Kinda sticks.
Daniel
> In article <hh6hmv$j3...@lust.ihug.co.nz>, "George" <rob...@ihug.co.nz>
> wrote:
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> > "Al" <albert.finney...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:albert.finney000-59...@news-wc.giganews.com...
> > > In article <hh4jqh$et...@lust.ihug.co.nz>, "George" <rob...@ihug.co.nz>
> > > wrote:
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> > >> "bob johnson" <billmath...@aol.com> wrote in message
And nobama DID tell us to judge him by the company he keeps.
Al
<53db604c-4d75-41c7...@g18g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
Daniel <sabot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
We have, which is why I call him a marxist.
Because he is a marxist.
George
Al, his politics are mildly left wing liberal. There is very little that is
Marxist in the politics Obama is promoting
rob
Al
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I suggest you look at a larger picture.
George
Fill me in Al, on how Obama is a marxist.
rob
Al
wrote:
If you need a freakin' biographical sketch at this late date, you're too
far gone.
George
You state Obama is a Marxist. I am asking you to justify your statement. My
clear contention is that the politics he is persuing are certainly not
Marxist. They are mild left liberal or may be mildly social democratic. My
evidence, aiming for a public health system. That is nothing but simple and
plain orthodoxy through much of the western world.
So once again Al, please tell me how Obama is Marxist.
rob
Al
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I arrive at the conclusion by studying his past, his statements, his
reactions.
He's been steeped in leftism and marxism all his life, that which we're
allowed to see, and the result is someone of that core philosophy.
Not very surprising. I've known lots of people like him over the years
from similar backgrounds and at the time similar leftist worldview.
Obama hasn't uttered a phrase, a word, a concept, a policy that I
haven't heard time and again from the left.
There's nothing new about the guy at all, he's just a leftist machine
politician from Chicago.
I even find his supposedly stirring rhetorical gifts to be grating,
annoying, and condescending. Classic narcissist.
And, he is simply rube. Something not lost on world governments, as you
may have noticed. In that regard, Obama is the guy at the table always
wondering who the mark is.
> My
> clear contention is that the politics he is persuing are certainly not
> Marxist. They are mild left liberal or may be mildly social democratic. My
> evidence, aiming for a public health system. That is nothing but simple and
> plain orthodoxy through much of the western world.
Take the advice of the marxists themselves. Look where they are going,
don't fret too much about how they get there.
Take health care. They want a nationalized system, they will get a
nationalized system eventually, subject of course to power shifts, but
it will be done "Incrementally", as Hillary told us.
So when people say "oh, but this one policy, it is what conservatives
want", that doesn't mean he is any less ambitious about the standard
leftist-socialist agenda.
> So once again Al, please tell me how Obama is Marxist.
Look at his past, his associations, his writings, his statements, and
you tell me what he "is".
George
Al, trying to implement a system of national health care, a system adopted
through the western world as sensible and orthodox, in no way constitutes
marxism. Is that all you have?
As I have already stated, the hysteria from the US right wing about a public
health system is bizzare. The accusations some throw around about Obama
being a 'COMMUNIST' are simply risible. They need to stop stropping
themselves into a foaming at the mouth frenzy and understand that a public
health system is good common sense stuff.
As for Obama and marxism. Can you please direct me to statements from OBama
on the following things:
a critical analysis of capitalism
a theory of class
a theory of imperialism and US imperialism
a theory of value
a theory of labour
a theory of transformation to socialism
you see, those are the tenets of marxism.
rob
Al
wrote:
I will get busy collating all his works to present a critical analyses
for you.