National security violator sent to jail
Dänk 1010011010
http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn
National security violator sent to jail
(29-12-2009)
ThAi BInh — The People’s Court of the northern province of Thai Binh
yesterday handed down a sentence of five years and a half in prison to
Tran Anh Kim on charge of "working to overthrow the people’s
administration."
Apart from the sentence, which was made in accordance with clause 1,
Article 79 of the Criminal Code, the court also ordered that Kim will
be kept under surveillance by the local authorities for three years
after serving his jail sentence.
According to the court’s verdict, Kim, 60, joined a so-called "the
Democratic Party of Viet Nam" with the aim to change the political
regime and abolish the Vietnamese State .
In June 2009, Kim was appointed as deputy secretary general of the
said organisation.
Kim also joined another organisation called "Block 8406" which sought
ways to overthrow the state of Viet Nam.
He admitted that he had regularly posted comments on the internet
calling for abolishing the leadership of the Communist Party of Viet
Nam and subverting the State.
The defendant also confessed that he had intentionally distorted the
political situation in Viet Nam in numerous interviews granted to
foreign media. He also tempted extreme elements to lodge untrue
petitions, causing socio-political instability.
The court’s panel agreed that this was a special case of national
security breach. The defendant did not only act individually but also
colluded closely with overseas Vietnamese reactionaries and
organisations.
More than 30 local and foreign reporters attended the trial. — VNS
Bert Hyman
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D�nk 1010011010 <dan...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> The defendant also confessed that he had intentionally distorted the
> political situation in Viet Nam in numerous interviews granted to
> foreign media.
But in the end pleaded that he loved Big Brother.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Dänk 1010011010
> Innews:cc62f415-3d4f-4ed0...@n38g2000yqf.googlegroups.com
>
> Dänk 1010011010 <dank...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> > The defendant also confessed that he had intentionally distorted the
> > political situation in Viet Nam in numerous interviews granted to
> > foreign media.
>
> But in the end pleaded that he loved Big Brother.
"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it
was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished.
He had won the victory over himself. He loved Chairman Obama."
What interested me about the story was that I recently returned from a
two-week trip to Vietnam. As a tourist, they were careful to make
sure I only saw the more pleasant aspects of Vietnamese life, and
plenty of propaganda featuring the smiling image of dear old Uncle
Ho. Tourists are treated like royalty, and within the tourist zone
every counter-revolutionary Western vice is permitted, from liquor to
drugs to hookers to Obama t-shirts.
Although I seemed to have freedom of movement around Saigon, I always
felt like me and the other tourists were being herded like cattle;
unless you are fluent in Vietnamese, you are essentially forced to
deal with authorized travel agencies, making it very difficult to
arrange transportation to non-touristy destinations. And the
Communist Party controls every aspect of Vietnamese life, every
Vietnamese is essentially a Party operative, making it very difficult
for any Westerner to sneak off to an unauthorized destination to
observe the real living conditions of the people.
I wasn't kidding about the Obama t-shirts, either:
Obama shirt #1:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4226657327_8b068ca0c7.jpg
Obama shirt #2:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2748/4139909632_00ec577b75.jpg
Obama and the Dummy:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2795/4226662687_ea2e4ec003.jpg
Uncle Ho is watching you:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2728/4226657275_065f239056.jpg
Fred Williams
A bunch of nonsense. You can substitute any communist country and just
lift the above out of the CIA propaganda manual. It's always the same lie.
We've heard it so many times before, you'd think they'd update it once in a
while anyway.
--
Regards,
Fred
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Fred Williams
> Tease the tiger and you'll wind up with teeth-marks
> on your ass. There's no freedom of speech in Vietnam,
> no freedom of the press. The wise peoples government
> reviews the situation and decides what's OK to say
> and who you can say it to. You know ... those smart
> socialist/marxist lefty types who always know best,
> like Obama ....
There's a great deal of freedom of speech, but no country allows you to
overthrow the government. It's frowned upon.
Dänk 1010011010
> A bunch of nonsense. You can substitute any communist country and just
> lift the above out of the CIA propaganda manual. It's always the same lie.
> We've heard it so many times before, you'd think they'd update it once in a
> while anyway.
I am getting rather tired of being called a liar for describing what I
personally witnessed on my recent trips to Vietnam and Cambodia. As
an enlightened liberal who has never been to Vietnam - and probably
never outside your trailer park - you are somehow an authority on
Communist Vietnamese society, and know that any depiction of this
utopian worker's paradise as an oppressive police state must be a lie
spread by right-wing opponents of socialism.
The original news story I posted came directly from the Communist
Vietnamese News Agency, check it out for yourself. I also posted my
own photographs of Communist Vietnamese political propaganda, as well
as photos of t-shirts featuring Barack Obama displayed next to t-
shirts featuring Ho Chi Minh. Keep in mind that all media and arts
are censored in Vietnam - including the postcards and t-shirts in
souvenir shops - and I saw NO other images of American politicians
except for Barack Obama.
Madame Bình
of Hammer n Sickle, anything the Govt do not like that can be
sentenced for "traitor", "overthow the regime" "leaking sensitive
nation info", etc
In Democratic country, the Govt's law allows you to do "overthow" the
Govt by your own ballot during election
Everyone must remember, the Communist was a starter to promote
Democracy n Freedom, freedom of speech, those priviledges they want to
use to against the Colonialists or Imperialists. Once they get their
goal, everything are under the iron law, no freedom of speech or
freedom of religious, Govt talks Citizen must listen.
On Dec 29, 9:05 pm, Fred Williams <f...@frewilliams.FFFfca> wrote:
> Mr. B1ack wrote:
.> There's a great deal of freedom of speech, but no country
allows you to
.> overthrow the government. It's frowned upon.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Fred
> (remove FFFf from my email address to reply by email)- Hide quoted text -
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Dänk 1010011010
> Everyone must remember, the Communist was a starter to promote
> Democracy n Freedom, freedom of speech, those priviledges they want to
> use to against the Colonialists or Imperialists. Once they get their
> goal, everything are under the iron law, no freedom of speech or
> freedom of religious, Govt talks Citizen must listen.
"When the Bolsheviks in Russia were outsiders, they vigorously opposed
censorship and the secret police, they advocated self-determination
for ethnic minorities, and so forth; but as soon as they came into
power themselves, they imposed a tighter censorship and created a more
ruthless secret police than any that had existed under the tsars, and
they oppressed ethnic minorities at least as much as the tsars had
done. In the United States, a couple of decades ago when leftists
were a minority in our universities, leftist professors were vigorous
proponents of academic freedom, but today, in those universities where
leftists have become dominant, they have shown themselves ready to
take away from everyone else's academic freedom. (This is 'political
correctness.')"
-- Industrial Society and Its Future
Fred Williams
> In undemocratic countries and Vietnam is the one plus under Communism
> of Hammer n Sickle, anything the Govt do not like that can be
> sentenced for "traitor", "overthow the regime" "leaking sensitive
> nation info", etc
>
> In Democratic country, the Govt's law allows you to do "overthow" the
> Govt by your own ballot during election
>
> Everyone must remember, the Communist was a starter to promote
> Democracy n Freedom, freedom of speech, those priviledges they want to
> use to against the Colonialists or Imperialists. Once they get their
> goal, everything are under the iron law, no freedom of speech or
> freedom of religious, Govt talks Citizen must listen.
>
Which is simply untrue.
Bert Hyman
<fr...@frewilliams.FFFfca> wrote:
> It's always the same lie.
Thanks for your ... insight.
Madame Bình
.> Madame Bình wrote:
> > In undemocratic countries and Vietnam is the one plus under Communism
> > of Hammer n Sickle, anything the Govt do not like that can be
> > sentenced for "traitor", "overthow the regime" "leaking sensitive
> > nation info", etc
>
> > In Democratic country, the Govt's law allows you to do "overthow" the
> > Govt by your own ballot during election
>
> > Everyone must remember, the Communist was a starter to promote
> > Democracy n Freedom, freedom of speech, those priviledges they want to
> > use to against the Colonialists or Imperialists. Once they get their
> > goal, everything are under the iron law, no freedom of speech or
> > freedom of religious, Govt talks Citizen must listen.
>
>
> --
.> Regards,
> Fred
.> (remove FFFf from my email address to reply by email)
Is that all you can say ?
Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguyen_Van_Ly
See pictures: http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0703/vietnam_priest_0330.jpg
Photo of Father Nguyen Van Ly muzzled in court, Hue, March 30, 2007.
Vietnamese Canadian campaign for Members of Parliament to intervene.
http://vietamreview.blogharbor.com/_photos/Father_Ly___Newspaper___April_2007.sized.JPG
Source: http://johnib.wordpress.com/category/hanoi/