When the Spiritually Sighted Meet The Spiritually Blind
Raymond Karczewski
Raymond Karczewski <ark...@arkenterprises.com> wrote:
rk: Following are three replies to my earlier response to peter
petrisko in this thread.
rk: What do they have in common? Clearly these anonymous
posters all want to see my posts gone from these forums. Why?
rk: It is a simple matter for them not to read my posts if they
already know they will be disturbed by them. Then why do they
read them and post accordingly? What does that tell you about
the motive of such posters? What do these few who post
anonymously, wishing to appear to be many, all have in common?
Is it not to stop Raymond Karczewski from posting on these
Internet newsgroups/forums! Could it be...? YOU BET!
rk: Note the level of intelligence expressed by these yahoos in
their communications. Does these person(s), who are addicted to
wearing many masks, respond to the thread in a serious,
intelligent and responsible manner? Or do they just rely upon
their usual one-liner, sloganish cheap shots and slink back into
the shadows, only to return using another name?
rk: How many of you folks are awake out there? Does anybody out
there see what has really been going on here on the Internet for
the last 4 1/2 years?
rk: Somehow I question whether most of you are even capable of
such simple sight. For if you were, this insanity which now
threatens the very foundation of this Constitution-based society
would not have been allowed to run rampant on the Internet.
Neither would you sit back idly and watch your country go down
the drain unless you truly do not see that you have been dumbed
down (conditioned) and have become too apathetic to do anything
about it.
rk: This momentum can be traced to the Government/Media
sponsored mind control activities now being conducted on these
Internet newsgroups on a daily basis. The present momentum can
be traced to government's need to create problems so that they
may then rush in to solve them, thus assuring their continued
existence.
rk: Why haven't the FBI, the White House, Oregon Senators Ron
Wyden and Gordon Smith, Journalist Matt Drudge, the Oregonian,
the Medford Oregon Mail Tribune come out from behind their Stone
Wall of Silence?
rk: The answer is simple -- by not doing the jobs they are being
paid to do, they are in effect allowing disorder, chaos, and
violence to mount on and off the Internet. When the insanity and
ensuing violence reaches a critical point where our society is
threatened by itself, government will rush in with "draconian"
legislation which will, at the very least, strip away our
existing Constitutional Rights and, at most, dissolve the present
government entirely and replace it with a NEW WORLD
ORDER/CASHLESS SOCIETY.
rk: Look around you. This Hegelian Dialectic method of Thesis,
Antithesis, Synthesis used by governments in creating problems
for them to solve is a favorite ploy of mind controllers. The
Gun Control issue is one such issue. So is this Internet Freedom
of Speech issue.
rk: On a lesser plane, pay particular attention to the personage
who calls himself John Hops <unknown>. Is the name real or is it
merely another Internet "handle"?
rk: How many out there are aware that these types of responses
to my posts are quite commonplace. However, what do they really
say about the motives of the anonymous poster(s) who flood these
groups with them?
rk: Where is their willingness to enter into serious dialogue on
the Internet?
rk: There's no camouflaging mediocrity, is there?
Ray Karczewski
On Wed, 24 May 2000 20:37:45 GMT, ark...@internetcds.com (Raymond
Karczewski) wrote:
On 23 May 2000 08:57:20 GMT, "Peter P." <p...@primenet.com> wrote:
pp: >In responding to Eric, Ray K. wrote...
rk: > IT IS, as far as any educated or verbally talented
ignoramus is able to grasp it. The flaw lies in the limitation
of Intellect, does it not? When hypocritical cowards, "thinking
themselves clever" while hiding behind masks of anonymity, tire
of their posing as men/women of understanding and actually cross
over the line drawn in the sand from the fragmented to the
Infinite, then and only then will they SEE that which previously
they could only "THINK ABOUT."
rk: > The answer of course lies in the technical realm of
fragmented, flawed language...
rk: > Intellect is absolutely necessary for the communication of
dead concepts among aftermoment-based blind believers who are
unable or unwilling to transcend their blindness.
rk: > Have I not communicated that Truth holistically?
Fragmented ignoramuses who are outraged when they glimpse
themselves in the mirror of Truth...
pp: You can teach a dog to sit, Ray, but no matter how smart it
is and how well your teaching commands are, you're never going to
teach it to "meow". Does that make the dog an ignoramus, or your
teaching method any less holistic?
rk: Dogs, cats, ignoramuses, teaching methods? What does such
irrelevant kindergarten expressed misdirection have to do with my
writing--unless it is to pander to the intellect of prideful
ignoramus onlookers?
pp: >I'd say no.
pp: >As for the lesson you've come to spread...
pp: >The answer doesn't lie in intellect, nor can it be fully
arrived at via language.
rk: Then what is the point of your post? Are you not seeking
to engage another in needless argument? It is clear you haven't
seen the truth of my communications for yourself, yet you
facesavingly defend and justify your present limitations while
singing to the choir of other out of tune, out of touch
ignoramuses. Curious, is it not?
pp: You know that, I know that. The dualistic nature of the
brain itself - both physically & mentally - makes that
impossible.
rk: So-- transcend the intellect. Then tell me where is the
problem?
pp: >This seemingly never-ending online tete de tete is akin to
spiritual switch and bait.
rk: pete, your comment is a misdirection, is it not? I DO NOT
argue. If you truly wish to address the subject of arguing, you
ought to be addressing such comments to the silly word twisting
hypocrites who abound in these newsgroups/forums.
rk: I have always expressed to the readers of these groups what
I SEE, and I do so as accurately as the technical medium of
language permits. You along with countless other anonymous,
quibbling, nit-picking intellectual ignoramuses seek to attack,
misdirect and ensnare me in busy work, go nowhere, intellectual
argument that will never, ever touch the hem of Truth.
rk: You are beating a dead horse here.
rk: You haven't a clue of the wisdom contained in the
admonition "resist not evil."
rk: Understanding and knowledge are vastly different realms.
rk: Spiritual seers TALK OF their direct resonance with Truth.
rk: Intellectual ignoramuses indirectly TALK ABOUT peripheral
concepts and ideas which, for them serve as a substitute for
truth.
pp: So if the plan is to continue selling what amounts to a
pound of red herring, just gives the people their monies back
already, eh?
rk: See what I mean?
pp: >However, if you truly want to help others "see", then end
this over-intellectualizing and over analyzing.
rk: Why does a blind man such as yourself, pretend to see? When
all is said and done, you are still blind, are you not?
rk: I neither intellectualize nor analyze. I merely speak my
Truth. How you hear it is patently obvious by your own choice of
words. Are you now seeing your true reflection in the Mirror of
Truth?
pp: Give them that first important step, teach them how to 'Not
Think'. (Which, as you know, is quite different from "not
thinking something through" or being an ignoramus.)
rk: Only a linear, technically oriented intellect would make a
statement like that. The Truth is, and has always been, that in
the Infinite Unknown which lies beyond the time bound realm of
Intellect, the "first step is the last step."
pp: >The way you've gone about it up to now is akin to expecting
someone to go from "A" to "Z", without telling them there are 24
other letters inbetween.
rk: Why does such lack of timeless understanding frustrate and
outrage you so? That's a question worth pondering, is it not?
Meditate on the simplicity of IT and a return to peace and
understanding is yours.
pp: Then, when a person can't directly connect A to Z with one
line, they become frustrated. Angry. And appear to be ignoramuses
to someone who *can* connect A to Z directly -- that someone
having learned B through Y so well previously that transcending
those letters is now automatic.
Peter
rk: When one resonates with understanding, the holistic Truth
sets them free from their previously binding dualistic
conditioning. Your demand is that of an intellectually bound
ignoramus who calls upon another to extend a helping spiritual
hand. However, when such helping hand is extended, the inert
ignoramus is disinclined to pull him/herself out of their mired
existence, but, rather, seeks to pull the other down into their
base level of dualistic codependent confusion. Hell, isn't it?
Ray Karczewski
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Re: Re: When the Spiritually Sighted Meet
The Spiritually Blind (Raymond Karczewski)
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 21:48:43 GMT
From: q <unknown>
q: stop wasting space with your insane
rants. (nm)
q: Talk about beating a dead horse
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Re: When the Spiritually Sighted Meet
The Spiritually Blind
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 22:25:10 GMT
From: John Hops <unknown>
rk: > "IT IS, as far as any educated or
verbally talented ignoramus is able to grasp
it. The flaw lies in the limitation of Intellect,
does it not?"
jh: First of all Ray, there is no limitation on
intelligence. The only limitation placed on
intelligence is by the person who weilds it or
thinks they weild it.
rk: > "When hypocritical cowards, "thinking
themselves clever" while hiding behind
masks of anonymity, tire of their posing as
men/women of understanding and actually
cross over the line drawn in the sand from
the fragmented to the Infinite, then and only
then will they SEE that which previously
they could only "THINK ABOUT."
jh: Says who? You? Who are you? Better yet,
who do you think you are? Granted there are
many blind people, intellectually speaking. I
can name many people by name who are so
focused on one particular way, ideal, etc.,
that they cannot see anything around them.
They lead a blindingly unfulfilled life. But
they dont even know that. Ray, I have one
suggestion for you....take it or leave it: Take
a break. Go do something. Go see
something. Better yet, go experience
something. Anything. Get off the computer
and experience life. I come on here and
spend a couple of lunch breaks a week just
to see whats up and get a good laugh out of
some of the posters. The rest of my life,
when Im not at work, Im living life out in the
real world. One more thing Ray, if people
use a monicker rather than their real name,
they cant be labled as cowards. There are
many psychos out there and its better to be
safe than sorry. Anyone who doesnt believe
that are truly unintelligent and have no
concept of the TRUE world out there. I dont
consider myself a genius or SOME spiritual
guide of some sort but I am not blind either.
Life is just way to short to pretend you are
something youre not. No need to waste time.
P.S. You should really stop calling people
names like ignoramous, cowards, etc. It only
makes you look like a spoiled little brat. Its
time to grow up. Take it easy.
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Re: Talk about beating a dead horse (John
Hops)
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 00:04:25 GMT
unk: Talk about the blind leading the blind
From: they'll both fall in a pit <unknown>
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Let man not Fall for a New World Order.
Let mankind Rise to a New World Consciousness!
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Poobah Ben Thar Dun That
wrote:
>Re: When the Spiritually Sighted Meet The Spiritually Blind
>
>
When the paranoid schizophrenic meets the usenet skeptics....
Give it up, Ray. Take your thorazine.
kristine campbell
(Raymond Karczewski) wrote:
> rk: What do they have in common? Clearly these anonymous
> posters all want to see my posts gone from these forums. Why?
because you are a boring, paranoid spammer who contributes nothing to the
groups you x-post to?
just a suggestion.
>
> rk: It is a simple matter for them not to read my posts if they
> already know they will be disturbed by them.
oh for heaven's sake. get over yourself. no one finds you disturbing.
silly, maybe. mind numbingly boring, probably. a hypocritical coward?
absofuckinglutely.
but disturbed by you? don't flatter yourself.
and i suspect most do killfile you, bRay. but you love the attention. you
crave it. it validates you. you go out of your way to troll for it. you'd
like to think people find you challenging, thought provoking..even
disturbing. but we don't. and it bugs the shit outta you.
> rk: Or do they just rely upon
> their usual one-liner, sloganish cheap shots and slink back into
> the shadows, only to return using another name?
oh shut up, fuckface. and btw, i was tim hill last month. 'cuse me while i
skulk off to the shadows....
>
> rk: Does anybody out
> there see what has really been going on here on the Internet for
> the last 4 1/2 years?
yeah, yeah, we know. it was all a set up to monitor you, bRay. and all the
dotcom sites and business to business websites and search engines and all
the technology is merely a red herring. its all a ruse to lure folks onto
the usenet to facilitate mind control.
bwhahahahahahahaha
> rk: Why haven't the FBI, the White House, Oregon Senators Ron
> Wyden and Gordon Smith, Journalist Matt Drudge, the Oregonian,
> the Medford Oregon Mail Tribune come out from behind their Stone
> Wall of Silence?
because you are a joke.
because you are a flake.
because you are a paranoid delusional who won't pay a traffic fine because
you think its extortion and should be able to use public roads because,
damn it, you are entitled.
because you are an egotistical weirdo who writes to underage females on
the internet and encourages them to engage in sexual activity and to
disregard any input from their parents. because you think you are christ,
but hurl insults at anyone who challenges you, and refer to the disabled
as "debris on wheels".
because you are a fanatical whacko who thinks the fbi is watching you via
the internet, and you threaten everyone with nonsensical and/or fabricated
lawsuits. conspiracy to commit libel indeed.
because you are a pathetic luser who is reaching the winter of his
discontent, and when looking back on your insignificant, meaningless
exisistance you see nothing but a long, dark, vapid corridor. now you make
up things to make your dingy little life seem worthwhile...after all, you
are so powerful, the fbi is spying on you, right?
>
> rk: they are in effect allowing disorder, chaos, and
> violence to mount on and off the Internet.
pervert.
>
> rk: Look around you. This Hegelian Dialectic method of Thesis,
> Antithesis, Synthesis used by governments
are they related to disorder, chaos and violence? you know, the same trio
that is raping our internet?
>
>
> rk: On a lesser plane, pay particular attention to the personage
> who calls himself John Hops <unknown>. Is the name real or is it
> merely another Internet "handle"?
oh shut up. people use fictious names on computers. bfd. hardly an
indicator of a conspiracy.
> rk: There's no camouflaging mediocrity, is there?
nope. we see through yours every damn time. you are the salieri of the usenet.
--
kristine
queen of the undead afab army
* * * * * * * *
tugnutt saves more than any deity
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
campbell) wrote:
>> rk: Why haven't the FBI, the White House, Oregon Senators Ron
>> Wyden and Gordon Smith, Journalist Matt Drudge, the Oregonian,
>> the Medford Oregon Mail Tribune come out from behind their Stone
>> Wall of Silence?
>
>because you are a joke.
>
>because you are a flake.
>
>because you are a paranoid delusional who won't pay a traffic fine because
>you think its extortion and should be able to use public roads because,
>damn it, you are entitled.
>
>because you are an egotistical weirdo who writes to underage females on
>the internet and encourages them to engage in sexual activity and to
>disregard any input from their parents. because you think you are christ,
>but hurl insults at anyone who challenges you, and refer to the disabled
>as "debris on wheels".
>
>because you are a fanatical whacko who thinks the fbi is watching you via
>the internet, and you threaten everyone with nonsensical and/or fabricated
>lawsuits. conspiracy to commit libel indeed.
>
>because you are a pathetic luser who is reaching the winter of his
>discontent, and when looking back on your insignificant, meaningless
>exisistance you see nothing but a long, dark, vapid corridor. now you make
>up things to make your dingy little life seem worthwhile...after all, you
>are so powerful, the fbi is spying on you, right?
Dear kristine,
Can I be your love slave?
--
V.G.
(This sig file contains not less that 80% recylcled SPAM)
Bob Neuwerth
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy) <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in message
news:kc5sis00kmfbf2ph1...@4ax.com...
> >> Wyden and Gordon Smith, Journalist Matt Drudge, the Oregonian,
> >> the Medford Oregon Mail Tribune come out from behind their Stone
> >> Wall of Silence?
> >
I never thought i'd say it, but i just paid $32.00 to renew my drivers
license, here in Montana. It's good for 8 yrs., if that's any consolation.
But i still said ouch!, when I heard the price.
And thought of Raymond at the same time. am i nuts, or do I read this group
too often?
empty pockets, bob
kristine campbell
vgorillaREM...@pobox.alaska.net wrote:
> Dear kristine,
> Can I be your love slave?
absolutely.
fill out the application that will be sent to you and interviews will be
conducted 'round midnight....
be sure to bring a recent photo, your curriculum vitae and your, um, equipment.
--
kristine
queen of the undead afab army
* * * * * * * *
the penguin waits for winter...five months to go.....
Glen Quarnstrom
>be sure to bring a recent photo, your curriculum vitae and your, um, equipment.
I'll be there. Do you have a 220 volt outlet and a medium size air
compressor for the equipment?
--
"Or did y'all decide it was cannibalism to eat crackers?"
---Paghat, to some vacuous luser.
Glan Groinstrum
"Glen Quarnstrom" <gee...@nursing.home> wrote in message news:agh1jsg4b79q4769u...@4ax.com...
> queenof...@thecastle.com (kristine campbell) wrote:
>
> >be sure to bring a recent photo, your curriculum vitae and your, um, equipment.
>
> I'll be there. Do you have a 220 volt outlet and a medium size air
> compressor for the equipment?
You won't need all that if you double upon the Bean-X
> --
>
> "Or did y'all decide it was cannibalism to eat crackers?"
> ---Paghat, to some vacuous luser.
>
> gl...@cyberhighway.net
> http://www.cyberhighway.net/~glenq/
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>
> "Glen Quarnstrom" <gee...@nursing.home> wrote in message news:agh1jsg4b79q4769u...@4ax.com...
> > queenof...@thecastle.com (kristine campbell) wrote:
> >
> > >be sure to bring a recent photo, your curriculum vitae and your, um, equipment.
> >
> > I'll be there. Do you have a 220 volt outlet and a medium size air
> > compressor for the equipment?
>
> You won't need all that if you double upon the Bean-X
> > --
xxx
HEY ASSHOLE!!! If you are going to lampoon the GEEEZE, You learn to type
and get a lousy sig. file, DORK.!! Otherwise don't waste our time!
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Glan Groinstrum
"SMITH29" <"smith29(not)"@home.com> wrote in message news:39317F47...@home.com...
Listen up you pathetic, stench-infested shit-for-brains,
No talent unfunny,half-witted, humorless, feeble-minded simp.
-If you had anything in your head, besides a runny yellow
ass-mustard stain, You would have known that I meant exactly
what I said. You can't even write a funny one-liner without
ripping off some lame-old playboy jokes. Go suck a gas-pipe.
HTH
-Glan
And you would do well to double upon some bean-x too!
Cap'n TrVth
"Glan Groinstrum" <Sque...@squickinghome.net> wrote in message news:39318...@corp.newsfeeds.com...
>
> "SMITH29" <"smith29(not)"@home.com> wrote in message news:39317F47...@home.com...
> > Glan Groinstrum wrote:
> > >
> > > "Glen Quarnstrom" <gee...@nursing.home> wrote in message news:agh1jsg4b79q4769u...@4ax.com...
> > > > queenof...@thecastle.com (kristine campbell) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >be sure to bring a recent photo, your curriculum vitae and your, um, equipment.
> > > >
> > > > I'll be there. Do you have a 220 volt outlet and a medium size air
> > > > compressor for the equipment?
> > >
> > > You won't need all that if you double upon the Bean-X
> > > ^^^^
> > > > --
> > xxx
> > HEY ASSHOLE!!! If you are going to lampoon the GEEEZE, You learn to type
> > and get a lousy sig. file, DORK.!! Otherwise don't waste our time!
> > 29
>
> Listen up you pathetic, stench-infested shit-for-brains,
> No talent unfunny,half-witted, humorless, feeble-minded simp.
>
> -If you had anything in your head, besides a runny yellow
> ass-mustard stain, You would have known that I meant exactly
> what I said. You can't even write a funny one-liner without
> ripping off some lame-old playboy jokes. Go suck a gas-pipe.
>
> HTH
>
> -Glan
>
> And you would do well to double upon some bean-x too!
Wow Smitty looks like you made a friend!
Maybe you'll stand a better chance of winning an argument
with Glan, than the Geezer... (maybe)
Cap'n TrVth
"Glen Quarnstrom" <gee...@nursing.home> wrote in message news:7t73js0qle1dcu8pg...@4ax.com...
> "Glan Groinstrum" <Sque...@squickinghome.net> wrote:
>
> >You won't need all that if you double upon the Bean-X
>
> --
>
> "Or did y'all decide it was cannibalism to eat crackers?"
> ---Paghat, to some vacuous luser.
>
> gl...@cyberhighway.net
> http://www.cyberhighway.net/~glenq/
Cackle~!~!~!
Glen Quarnstrom
SMITH29
>
> "Glan Groinstrum" <Sque...@squickinghome.net> wrote in message news:39318...@corp.newsfeeds.com...
> >
> > "SMITH29" <"smith29(not)"@home.com> wrote in message news:39317F47...@home.com...
> > > Glan Groinstrum wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Glen Quarnstrom" <gee...@nursing.home> wrote in message news:agh1jsg4b79q4769u...@4ax.com...
> > > > > queenof...@thecastle.com (kristine campbell) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >be sure to bring a recent photo, your curriculum vitae and your, um, equipment.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll be there. Do you have a 220 volt outlet and a medium size air
> > > > > compressor for the equipment?
> > > >
> > > > > --
> > > xxx
> > > HEY ASSHOLE!!! If you are going to lampoon the GEEEZE, You learn to type
> > > and get a lousy sig. file, DORK.!! Otherwise don't waste our time!
> > > 29
> >
> > Listen up you pathetic, stench-infested shit-for-brains,
> > No talent unfunny,half-witted, humorless, feeble-minded simp.
> >
> > -If you had anything in your head, besides a runny yellow
> > ass-mustard stain, You would have known that I meant exactly
> > what I said. You can't even write a funny one-liner without
> > ripping off some lame-old playboy jokes. Go suck a gas-pipe.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > -Glan
> >
> > And you would do well to double upon some bean-x too!
Yawn, You been here too long to have any new stuff of interest. Dead
meat.
xx
>
> Wow Smitty looks like you made a friend!
> Maybe you'll stand a better chance of winning an argument
> with Glan, than the Geezer... (maybe)
How wood you know chicken shit. You run when Glen comes around. You pick
on JP and loose most of the time. Get a life loser! Let me know when you
have some ammo instead of duds!
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