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Clinton Admin. Refuses Questions About Joint PLA/CIA Bases

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May 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/10/99
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Congressional investigators confronted Clinton administration
officials last week with the latest information from SOFTWAR.
House and Senate investigators want to know why the U.S. and
China continue to operate joint signals (SIGINT) intercept bases
inside the People's Republic of China.

The joint CIA/PLA bases are located at Korla and Qitai in the
western province Xinjiang. The bases were established in 1978,
during the height of the Cold war.

In response, Clinton administration Defense Dept. officials
refused to answer questions about the joint CIA/Chinese Army
bases. At one point, Clinton officials refused to answer any
questions on joint U.S./Sino military operations.

"We are going to have to call them in on the carpet," stated one
frustrated Congressional investigator. "We certainly need to
know about Korla and Qitai. The Chinese Army is setting up a
SIGINT base with the Cubans to monitor U.S. military forces 90
miles from Florida. Just how much of that new PLA base is 'made
in the U.S.A'?"

One Congressional source told this reporter that the two CIA/PLA
bases at Korla and Qitai are of little use today.

"Some years ago, I asked about the quality of the stuff coming
from there and was told, 'C+ at best'", stated the source, a
top Hill investigator and a China specialist.

"My guess is that it is even lower, now. Again, as I recall
(former Defense Secretary) Perry and (PLA General) Ding set it
up in the late 70's, maybe 1980... I get the impression we
continue the program for political reasons with China, not any
real military reasons at this point."

The joint CIA/PLA SIGINT bases are also reported to be part of
the National Security Agency (NSA) chain of stations linked to
the "ECHELON" system. ECHELON is a giant NSA network of
intercept posts, satellites and super-computers intended to
monitor communications and signals on a world-wide scale.
ECHELON is also plugged into various monitoring systems, each
with individual code names such as "MAYFLY".

Whether the Chinese receive information from the ECHELON system
is no longer in question. The inclusion of red China into the
ECHELON system raises serious concerns that Clinton has a secret
deal with communist China to share global communications
intelligence. The secret deal is reported to include CIA
training inside the United States and equipment. The bases at
Korla and Qitai are jointly manned by NSA and Chinese Army
personnel.

Representative Bob Barr (R-GA), a member of the House Judiciary
Committee, recently participated in a panel discussion that
centered on Project ECHELON. According to Barr, ECHELON began
in the 1980s, and is controlled largely by the United States
National Security Agency (NSA) in coordination with at least
four other countries, including Canada, the United Kingdom,
Australia, and New Zealand.

"Anyone who cares about protecting privacy rights of American
citizens should repeatedly contact Members of Congress, the news
media, and the Administration. We must demand the government
account for its surveillance activities, including Project
ECHELON, and take steps to ensure the privacy of electronic
communications," said Barr.

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May 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/11/99
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sof...@us.net wrote:
> "My guess is that it is even lower, now. Again, as I recall
> (former Defense Secretary) Perry and (PLA General) Ding set it
> up in the late 70's, maybe 1980... I get the impression we
> continue the program for political reasons with China, not any
> real military reasons at this point."

What ever political points it had have all been lost by knocking
out their embassy in Belgrade. Maybe the CIA figured that kicking
them in the nuts would be a good way to get the bases closed so
they don't have to answer any questions of congress???

> Whether the Chinese receive information from the ECHELON system
> is no longer in question. The inclusion of red China into the
> ECHELON system raises serious concerns that Clinton has a secret
> deal with communist China to share global communications
> intelligence. The secret deal is reported to include CIA
> training inside the United States and equipment. The bases at
> Korla and Qitai are jointly manned by NSA and Chinese Army
> personnel.

Let's see if they stay there. The US certainly has a lot of
chuztpa to spit 'em in the eye and charge for the eye wash!

Somebody with a lot of pull is purposely breaking up the love
affair between Clinton and China. Prooves to me that the
president is a figure head with no real power, the bureaucrats
have far more power than he does. Let's see if he gets the
message....

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike

wtshaw

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May 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/11/99
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In article <37386B...@physiology.wisc.edu>, Medical Electronics Lab

<ros...@physiology.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
> Let's see if they stay there. The US certainly has a lot of
> chuztpa to spit 'em in the eye and charge for the eye wash!
>
> Somebody with a lot of pull is purposely breaking up the love
> affair between Clinton and China. Prooves to me that the
> president is a figure head with no real power, the bureaucrats
> have far more power than he does. Let's see if he gets the
> message....
>
It could have taken one undescript person with the equivalent of an eraser
and the ability to change a map to cause the events to unfurl in Belgrade.
I would like to think the best of all people in government, and grant
allowance for trivial mistakes, but the nature of the situation of the
last couple of days seems to point to major ineptness, in addition to
Clinton, regardless of what explanation you might accept.
--
What's HOT: Honesty, Openness, Truth
What's Not: FUD--fear, uncertainty, doubt

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