Today's Founder Quote: President Bush has an obligation to reduce the role of government intrusion, starting with vetoing Socialist Rx on the principal of lowering taxes
CB
"I give my signature to many Bills with which my Judgment is at variance....
From the Nature of the Constitution, I must approve all parts of a Bill, or
reject it in total. To do the latter can only be Justified upon the clear
and obvious grounds of propriety; and I never had such confidence in my own
faculty of judging as to be over tenacious of the opinions I may have
imbibed in doubtful cases."
--George Washington
_______________________
Liberal Democrats are inexorably opposed to tax cuts, because tax cuts give
people more power, and take away from the role of government.
--Rush Limbaugh
"Those who do not work should not eat." (2 Thessalonians 3:10)
(the exception is the infirmed and the dead)
CB
--
"Our present addiction to pollsters and forecasters is a symptom
of our chronic uncertainty about the future.... We watch our
experts read the entrails of statistical tables and graphs the
way the ancients watched their soothsayers read the entrails of a
chicken."
-----Eric Hoffer
Prescription drugs paid for by the American tax payer isn't as important as
the security of American shipping ports. Only One to two percent of shipping
containers are inspected but Congress and the president think we should
spend $50+ billion on new Socialism. What a crock.
Write to the Prez.
pres...@whitehouse.gov
vice.pr...@whitehouse.gov
righ...@nutty.com
>Liberal Democrats are inexorably opposed to tax cuts, because tax cuts give
>people more power, and take away from the role of government.
> --Rush Limbaugh
Duh
It was the federal government which held the Union together
It was the Federal Government which provided a net for destitute, orphaned, elderly
when the "system" failed because of self-serving greed.
It was the Federal government which slapped the shit out of racist bastards
in the south and FORCED them to comply with the constitution
It was the Federal government which set in motion the GI BIll, Unified Highway system,
Clean Air, Water, environment, rid us of child labor, and the upward flow of wealth that
near destroyed both Europe and America.
It was the Federal government which prosecuted Conservatives like Nixon and Reagan's
administration for their felonies against the people, and made America a better place to
live.
What Limpballs is referring to when he "gives people more power", is the Power to control
political agendas for a CHEAPER price at a local level..........which is what Gingrich was
lecturing about in his GOPAC series.
"giving people back more money", is ONLY to recognize that population equals power equals
votes equals money.
Not to advance America.
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<C...@prayforme.com> wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
Listen you pagan nigger, .................
Note: The only time I call people "niggers" is when they treat me to vulgar
language. Act like a "low down and ugly person" and be called one. Nothing
to do with skin color, everything to do with character.
CB
<righ...@nutty.com> wrote in message
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The items you listed can be debated on whether it's governments job to be
the end all to social needs or WANTS. Government isn't the answer to managed
healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a right
to be made into entitlement.
>
>
> ====================================================
>
> <C...@prayforme.com> wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
>
>
> Listen you pagan nigger, .................
>
> Note: The only time I call people "niggers" is when they treat me to
vulgar
> language. Act like a "low down and ugly person" and be called one. Nothing
> to do with skin color, everything to do with character.
Give that man a job at Websters
CB
The items you listed can be debated on whether it's governments job to be
the end all to social needs or WANTS. Government isn't the answer to managed
healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a right
to be made into entitlement.
>
>
> ====================================================
>
> <C...@prayforme.com> wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
>
>
> Listen you pagan nigger, .................
>
> Note: The only time I call people "niggers" is when they treat me to
vulgar
> language. Act like a "low down and ugly person" and be called one. Nothing
> to do with skin color, everything to do with character.
Give that man a job at Websters
righ...@nutty.com
> Government isn't the answer to managed
>healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a right
>to be made into entitlement.
So greedy pharmaceutical companies have the "right" to extract what
they want from those who can't afford those medical "commodities"?
You're even a sleazier, pathetic dirtbag than I thought.
righ...@nutty.com
>The items you listed can be debated on whether it's governments job to be
>the end all to social needs or WANTS. Government isn't the answer to managed
>healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a right
>to be made into entitlement.
What a disgusting sonofabitch you are, CBLOON
Only an unthinking, uneducated, rotten to the core, person would contend
that medicine is a "commodity" not a need.
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On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:08:21 -0500, Christopher Morton
<chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>Sorry, I'm a pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action liberal.
No, MORTONLOON
All you are, or ever were, or ever WILL be is a
big, dumb, ass-kicked Gunwhoring chickenshit
usenet moron.
>Yes, and it pisses you off, you crossburning ignoramus.
Jeff Strickland
negated by your use of CBLOON, and your insults hurled at the original
poster.
BTW,
Linbaugh's premise is that when government takes less of the people's money,
the poeple have more power over their own lives and need less government,
thereby needing to give less money to government. This has nothing to do
with more power to control government agendas, however Limbaugh clearly
accepts the idea that people with money control government.
<righ...@nutty.com> wrote in message
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righ...@nutty.com
>You make some good points, but your whole, entire, complete position is
>negated by your use of CBLOON, and your insults hurled at the original
>poster.
To which I respectfully reply:
>---------------------------------------------------------
>"Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore":
><C...@prayforme.com> wrote:
>
>
>No one wants a foul mouthed nigger working for him, no matter
>what skin he wears.
>I've owned and sold two landscape businesses for more money
>that you'll earn in 20 years. I have employed hundreds if
>not thousands of people. I know a nigger after just a
>short time hearing him talk, work and complain.
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This is Charley Barta.
There is NO rational reason to deal with a sleazy bastard like Barta on any other
terms. He hides behind semantics when calling people racial epithets, fronts sham
religious beliefs to justify his phony psuedo=christian crap, and predicates his dirt-bag
crap on bigoted, hypocritical beliefs.
I'm not interested in dealing with the bastard on any other terms.
As long as he keeps spouting his phony shit, I'll be here to ridicule him and his
crappy beliefs.
CB
<righ...@nutty.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:19:56 -0400, "CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote:
>
> >The items you listed can be debated on whether it's governments job to be
> >the end all to social needs or WANTS. Government isn't the answer to
managed
> >healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a
right
> >to be made into entitlement.
>
> What a disgusting sonofabitch you are, CBLOON
>
> Only an unthinking, uneducated, rotten to the core, person would contend
> that medicine is a "commodity" not a need.
I didn't say it wasn't a need. We all pay some type of insurance. But we can
only insure what we can afford. There isn't a city (government sponsored)
hospital that turns those that have no insurance away.
As far as preemptive healthcare goes, it's a service that professional
people go into to serve humanity and make good money. If you can not afford
preemptive care, you go and wait till there is a real problem. It is not
mine, nor anyone else's responsibility to pay for someone's healthcare.
Why can't your understand? Because you can't afford $100 a month for
healthcare and you 'want' someone else to pay for it.
People who are responsible work two or three jobs to earn enough money to
support the lifestyle they want, including healthcare, cable TV, cell phone
and steak. I worked 12 and 17 hour days because I needed the money for
stuff. Healthcare is part of the stuff one purchases to maintain the
lifestyle they want for themselves and their family.
CB
<righ...@nutty.com> wrote in message
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Hence you are recognized by the words your speak and the character you
project, a low live leech who wants others to pay your way in life, cuss
those who've planned for their future and made good choices to secure a
lifestyle free of government strings.
You don't hate me so much as you hate your self for not planning for your
life. You should have kept your fly up and stayed in skoo.
--
CB
"Those who do not work should not eat." (2 Thessalonians 3:10)
(the exception is the infirmed and the dead)
Get another job and stop your whining no fair. Get with Reverend Peterson.
Maybe he can change your attitude toward responsibility and work ethic
>
>
otis_p_d...@hotmail.com
>On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:19:56 -0400, "CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote:
>
>>The items you listed can be debated on whether it's governments job to be
>>the end all to social needs or WANTS. Government isn't the answer to managed
>>healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a right
>>to be made into entitlement.
>
>What a disgusting sonofabitch you are, CBLOON
>
>Only an unthinking, uneducated, rotten to the core, person would contend
>that medicine is a "commodity" not a need.
Oh, medicine (for those in need) is certainly very important.
Now, if you want to give medicine to seniors, what about non-seniors
with actual *need*?
You want to leave them out in the cold, for the horrible sin of "being
too young to get sick"?
righ...@nutty.com
>> >The items (medicine) you listed can be debated on whether it's governments job to be
>> >the end all to social needs or WANTS. Government isn't the answer to
>managed healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a
>right >to be made into entitlement.
>> What a disgusting sonofabitch you are, CBLOON
>> Only an unthinking, uneducated, rotten to the core, person would contend
>> that medicine is a "commodity" not a need.
>I didn't say it wasn't a need.
But it IS a need, you fucking moron.
> We all pay some type of insurance.
No, there are those who cannot afford insurance of ANY kind you stupid asshole.
> But we can
>only insure what we can afford. There isn't a city (government sponsored)
>hospital that turns those that have no insurance away.
So you're theory is to solve the "problem" by opting to pay 60 times more for what a
universal health care would do? Where in fuck have you been. Emergency treatment is
monumentally more expensive than preventative care. Making those who do have insurance
pay higher premiums because the option of emergency care is so expensive is foolish.
>As far as preemptive healthcare goes, it's a service that professional
>people go into to serve humanity and make good money. If you can not afford
>preemptive care, you go and wait till there is a real problem. It is not
>mine, nor anyone else's responsibility to pay for someone's healthcare.
You uneducated dolt
The 30 to 40 million who get "health care" by using emergency treatment is why
the cost of health care is so outrageous. Have you been sleeping?
>Why can't your understand? Because you can't afford $100 a month for
>healthcare and you 'want' someone else to pay for it.
There are tens of millions in this country that work at, or below the poverty level of
subsistence, you rat-shit sleazebag. There is NO WAY that out of their subsistence wages
any notion of health care is possible. And you just claimed that all they need to do is
go to the emergency room and "they'll not be turned away" IS making someone else
pay.........but they're paying many times more because they do.
>People who are responsible work two or three jobs to earn enough money to
>support the lifestyle they want, including healthcare, cable TV, cell phone
>and steak. I worked 12 and 17 hour days because I needed the money for
>stuff. Healthcare is part of the stuff one purchases to maintain the
>lifestyle they want for themselves and their family.
So when you work "2 or 3 jobs" to maintain a bare poverty level, you think that's okay?
WHat a dirtbag.
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:17:29 -0500, "CB" <C...@prayforme.com>
>wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
>Your such a coward. Anyone on USENET that's read your
>posts knows you have nothing good to say that isn't filth.
>Me describing you as a nigger is always in response
>to your foul mouth. When ever you quote me describing
>your character as "nigger", you always leave out what
>you said to earn that stigmata, coward
otis_p_d...@hotmail.com
>On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:06:22 -0400, "CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote:
>
>>> >The items (medicine) you listed can be debated on whether it's governments job to be
>>> >the end all to social needs or WANTS. Government isn't the answer to
>>managed healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a
>>right >to be made into entitlement.
>
>>> What a disgusting sonofabitch you are, CBLOON
>
>>> Only an unthinking, uneducated, rotten to the core, person would contend
>>> that medicine is a "commodity" not a need.
>
>>I didn't say it wasn't a need.
>
>But it IS a need, you fucking moron.
So, how do the pharmaceutical Companies get the funds for R&D?
>> We all pay some type of insurance.
>
>No, there are those who cannot afford insurance of ANY kind you stupid asshole.
That's right, but the reasons for this are wide and varied. It's a
very complicated issue.
>> But we can
>>only insure what we can afford. There isn't a city (government sponsored)
>>hospital that turns those that have no insurance away.
>
>So you're theory is to solve the "problem" by opting to pay 60 times more for what a
>universal health care would do?
You mean socializing medical care? LOL!!
> Where in fuck have you been. Emergency treatment is
>monumentally more expensive than preventative care.
Why?
>Making those who do have insurance pay higher
>premiums because the option of emergency care is so expensive is foolish.
So is paying incentives to physicians with the lowest referrals, and
the massive advertising of medications. Not to mention the penalties
to physicians who do a lot of referrals, and the extremely expensive
cost of mal-practice insurance that providers must bear.
Myopics like yourself think you can sue docs at the drop of a hat for
BIG bucks, and then whine when the docs are charging higher costs.
Why are docs expected to NEVER make mistakes?
It's the "practice" of medicine..........
>>As far as preemptive healthcare goes, it's a service that professional
>>people go into to serve humanity and make good money. If you can not afford
>>preemptive care, you go and wait till there is a real problem. It is not
>>mine, nor anyone else's responsibility to pay for someone's healthcare.
>
>You uneducated dolt
LOL!! :-) I love watching you pop off.... :-)
>The 30 to 40 million who get "health care" by using emergency treatment is why
>the cost of health care is so outrageous.
That's the only reason, huh?
MYOPIA:
my·o·pi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-p-)
n.
A visual defect in which distant objects appear blurred because their
images are focused in front of the retina rather than on it;
nearsightedness. Also called short sight.
Lack of discernment or long-range perspective in thinking or planning:
“For Lorca, New York is a symbol of spiritual myopia” (Edwin Honig).
righ...@nutty.com
>Oh, medicine (for those in need) is certainly very important.
Oh, but that wouldn't explain why you fucking nazis are so intent on funneling
billions to the wealthy instead of taking care of the problem, does it?
>Now, if you want to give medicine to seniors, what about non-seniors
>with actual *need*?
Pay attention you fucking nitwit
The issue was the sick, lame, young and old (to the tune of about 40 million).
>You want to leave them out in the cold, for the horrible sin of "being
>too young to get sick"?
You were'nt too concerned about you mother out in the cold all those years, Pootis.
Street corners aren't healthy either.
righ...@nutty.com
>On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:10:30 -0600, righ...@nutty.com wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:06:22 -0400, "CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> >The items (medicine) you listed can be debated on whether it's governments job to be
>>>> >the end all to social needs or WANTS. Government isn't the answer to
>>>managed healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a
>>>right >to be made into entitlement.
>>
>>>> What a disgusting sonofabitch you are, CBLOON
>>
>>>> Only an unthinking, uneducated, rotten to the core, person would contend
>>>> that medicine is a "commodity" not a need.
>>
>>>I didn't say it wasn't a need.
>>
>>But it IS a need, you fucking moron.
>
>So, how do the pharmaceutical Companies get the funds for R&D?
Using their the money they paid congress with.
>>> We all pay some type of insurance.
>>
>>No, there are those who cannot afford insurance of ANY kind you stupid asshole.
>
>That's right, but the reasons for this are wide and varied. It's a
>very complicated issue.
It's not complicated.
You fucking nazis are against EVERY form of social justice ranging from fair labor laws,
to fair treatment in society. If it benefits the wealthy, you're for it, if not, screw
the poor.
>>So you're theory is to solve the "problem" by opting to pay 60 times more for what a
>>universal health care would do?
>
>You mean socializing medical care? LOL!!
Then you ARE for paying more solely to make the wealthier a lot richer?
>Myopics like yourself think you can sue docs at the drop of a hat
Spoken like a true babbling sychophant of the right wing, Delay chapter and verse.
>
>Why are docs expected to NEVER make mistakes?
Doctors are expected to take responsibility for mistakes made due to bad judgement, or
hospitals due to bottom line practices, or systems who refuse to treat.
otis_p_d...@hotmail.com
>On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:52:56 -0400, otis_p_d...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>Oh, medicine (for those in need) is certainly very important.
>
>Oh, but that wouldn't explain why you fucking nazis are so intent on funneling
>billions to the wealthy instead of taking care of the problem, does it?
And how (in your view) is this taking place?
>>Now, if you want to give medicine to seniors, what about non-seniors
>>with actual *need*?
>
>Pay attention you fucking nitwit
>
>The issue was the sick, lame, young and old (to the tune of about 40 million).
And??
>>You want to leave them out in the cold, for the horrible sin of "being
>>too young to get sick"?
>
>You were'nt too concerned about you mother out in the cold all those years, Pootis.
Well, there you go! Hey, thanks for playing! LOL!!
So, have you decided which charity you're sending your tax refund to?
otis_p_d...@hotmail.com
>On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 11:46:36 -0400, otis_p_d...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:10:30 -0600, righ...@nutty.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 22:06:22 -0400, "CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >The items (medicine) you listed can be debated on whether it's governments job to be
>>>>> >the end all to social needs or WANTS. Government isn't the answer to
>>>>managed healthcare or prescription drug programs. Those are commodities, not a
>>>>right >to be made into entitlement.
>>>
>>>>> What a disgusting sonofabitch you are, CBLOON
>>>
>>>>> Only an unthinking, uneducated, rotten to the core, person would contend
>>>>> that medicine is a "commodity" not a need.
>>>
>>>>I didn't say it wasn't a need.
>>>
>>>But it IS a need, you fucking moron.
>>
>>So, how do the pharmaceutical Companies get the funds for R&D?
>
>Using their the money they paid congress with.
And how much is that, specifically?
>>>> We all pay some type of insurance.
>>>
>>>No, there are those who cannot afford insurance of ANY kind you stupid asshole.
>>
>>That's right, but the reasons for this are wide and varied. It's a
>>very complicated issue.
>
>It's not complicated.
Then you're really much more clueless than I thought.
Tell you what, you explain it to me in your own views......
>You fucking nazis are against EVERY form of social justice
"Social Justice" = Socialism.
>ranging from fair labor laws,
What are those?
>to fair treatment in society.
Fair? According to who?
>If it benefits the wealthy, you're for it, if not, screw
>the poor.
Oh, you mean like wanting educators to actually teach.
>>>So you're theory is to solve the "problem" by opting to pay 60 times more for what a
>>>universal health care would do?
>>
>>You mean socializing medical care? LOL!!
>
>Then you ARE for paying more solely to make the wealthier a lot richer?
Then you ARE for socialized medicine. Move to Canada.
>>Myopics like yourself think you can sue docs at the drop of a hat
>
>Spoken like a true babbling sychophant of the right wing, Delay chapter and verse.
No, check out all the docs that are being forced to close their
practices and move to non-predatory states, where the
lambulance-chasing awyers that you seem to love so much will sue the
bejezus out of anyone.
"You may be injured, and not even know it....and it may be someone
else's fault!"
That's you, whelp.
>>Why are docs expected to NEVER make mistakes?
>
>Doctors are expected to take responsibility for mistakes made due to bad judgement, or
>hospitals due to bottom line practices, or systems who refuse to treat.
Ever heard the term "informed consent"?
Know what it means??
"I don't think there's any doubt that, in at least five states
I can think of, the NRA had a decisive influence. You've got
to hand it to them, they've done a good job. They've probably
had more to do than anyone else in the fact that we
didn't win the House this time.
And they hurt Al Gore"
-Former President William J. Clinton, speaking to Dan Rather
CB
"Winston Smith" <wsm...@minitrue.oceana.gov> wrote in message
news:wsmith-2106...@pppte02-124.ght.iadfw.net...
> In article <20030621170449...@mb-m04.aol.com>,
> clove...@aol.comdotcom (Courtney Love) whined:
>
> <clipped BS>
>
>
> Courtney, you are a pathetic broken record.
What's more she usually quotes only short (put wit) one liners and never
follows in posting secession like the rest of us. Her replies are always as
new posts so the message loses train of thought. To top it all off she cuts
of the distribution to other newsgroups.
Courtney's much like Hillary in the way she wants total control over
communications. I've given up on any debate because she cuts and pastes only
what SHE wants. Always to criticize the author, never to debate the topic.
CB
"Winston Smith" <wsm...@minitrue.oceana.gov> wrote in message
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> In article <20030621170449...@mb-m04.aol.com>,
> clove...@aol.comdotcom (Courtney Love) whined:
>
> <clipped BS>
>
>
> Courtney, you are a pathetic broken record.
What's more she usually quotes only short (but witty) one liners and never
follows in posting secession like the rest of us. Her replies are most
always as
new posts so messages lose train of thought. To top it all off she cuts
off the distribution to other newsgroups.
Courtney's much like Hillary in the way she wants total control over
communications. I've given up on any debate because she cuts and pastes only
what SHE wants. Always to criticize the author, never to debate the topic.
CB
righ...@nutty.com
>
>"Winston Smith" <wsm...@minitrue.oceana.gov> wrote in message
>news:wsmith-2106...@pppte02-124.ght.iadfw.net...
>> In article <20030621170449...@mb-m04.aol.com>,
>> clove...@aol.comdotcom (Courtney Love) whined:
>>
>> <clipped BS>
>>
>>
>> Courtney, you are a pathetic broken record.
>
>What's more she usually quotes only short (put wit) one liners and never
>follows in posting secession like the rest of us.
You stupid asshole, CBLOON
You're the poster child of ignorance around here.
You haven't the intellectual capacity of a piss ant.
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<C...@prayforme.com> wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
CB
<righ...@nutty.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 22:24:53 -0400, "CB" <C...@prayforme.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Winston Smith" <wsm...@minitrue.oceana.gov> wrote in message
> >news:wsmith-2106...@pppte02-124.ght.iadfw.net...
> >> In article <20030621170449...@mb-m04.aol.com>,
> >> clove...@aol.comdotcom (Courtney Love) whined:
> >>
> >> <clipped BS>
> >>
> >>
> >> Courtney, you are a pathetic broken record.
> >
> >What's more she usually quotes only short (put wit) one liners and never
> >follows in posting secession like the rest of us.
>
> You stupid asshole, CBLOON
>
> You're the poster child of ignorance around here.
>
> You haven't the intellectual capacity of a piss ant.
Goo Goo?
Jeff Strickland
<righ...@nutty.com> wrote in message
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I don't know what he hides behind, nor do I take a position that he is
either right or wrong. I'm only saying that you are wrong because of the
verbiage that you have chosen to use. I might even support your position, I
don't know.
Do you know the comedian, Denis Geary I think is his name. He is the guy
that is rude and abusive while selling motor oil. I have made it my mission
in life to never buy any product he is selling because I don't like his
pitch. Your pitch is the same. I have such difficulty getting past your
pitch that I can't even stomach the idea of reading your posts.
BTW, I have heard his (CBs) religious positions before, but I haven't heard
him use racial slurs. Frankly, I don't spend much time reading him, and I
don't spend much time reading your's either.
>
CB
"Jeff Strickland" <cr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Thank you.
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