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Dionysus

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:08:15 AM11/22/09
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So, the Senate's Slimy 60 showed us all last night how little they prize
American values. It'll be fun watching the recriminations, retaliations, and
regret in November 2010.

No Surrender!

Dionysus

Witziges R�tsel

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:31:00 PM11/22/09
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"Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote in message
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> So, the Senate's Slimy 60 showed us all last night how little they
> prize American values. It'll be fun watching the recriminations,
> retaliations, and regret in November 2010.
>
What do you like about the way health insurance now works?


Dionysus

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:38:28 AM11/22/09
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"Witziges R�tsel" <z...@roer.invalid.com> wrote in message
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That's not the right question.

No Surrender!

Dionysus
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Democracy Highlander

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Nov 22, 2009, 9:50:55 AM11/22/09
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On Nov 22, 9:08 am, "Dionysus" <no.surren...@never.net> wrote:
> So, the Senate's Slimy 60 showed us all last night how little they prize
> American values.

You are absolutely correct.
A number of 40 corrupted crooks valued the profits of insurance
companies more than the life and health of American people. Fortunate,
the majority prevail and the mindless crooks saw the will of "We, the
people".

Yes, this bill is still far from being a decent one. Still too much
concession to the criminal private industry, who for hundred years
killed innocent Americans for a profit. But it is a start. Hopefully,
in time when the people will wake up and sent the anachronistic
conservative movement to the history trash can where they belong, we
may start to get better health care.
Till then, this bill it is still better than the current criminal
dependence on greedy industry.

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Beam Me Up Scotty

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:31:34 PM11/22/09
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You don't tell me what to buy!

hal

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:19:13 PM11/22/09
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No one is going to tell you what to buy. Presently proposed bills do
not in any way force people with private insurance to change anything.
If you've been told otherwise you've been lied to.

1-20-2013

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:28:33 PM11/22/09
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Once in a China Blue Moon wrote:
> In article <U6mdnRuWjI1N2JTW...@giganews.com>,

> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
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>> So, the Senate's Slimy 60 showed us all last night how little they prize
>> American values. It'll be fun watching the recriminations, retaliations, and
>> regret in November 2010.
>
> You failed.

Imagine the sleazy back room, corruption and palm greasing that Harry
Reid and gang was involved in the past few days leading up to last
nights vote????

We all know about the $300 million dollar "Louisiana Purchase" that
*somehow* convinced Louisiana senator Mary Landrieu (wink, wink, nudge,
nudge, say no more ;^D ) to vote for allowing the debate to proceed.

It's staggering to imagine the other graft and payouts that we haven't
heard about yet.

BTW - is $300 million the going rate these days to buy a senators vote?
I suspect a really sleazy senator like Roland Burris (D - Illinois)
would hold out for a lot more than a mere $300 million to buy his vote.

It'll be funny after the midterms in 2010 and especially after the 2012
elections to hear liberals whining about "stolen elections" after these
corrupt senators that voted to allow the health care initiative to go
forward are voted out of office with a resounding thud!!!

1-20-2013

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:33:13 PM11/22/09
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hal wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:31:34 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
> <Then-Destro...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
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>> Witziges R�tsel wrote:
>>> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote in message
>>> news:U6mdnRuWjI1N2JTW...@giganews.com...
>>>> So, the Senate's Slimy 60 showed us all last night how little they
>>>> prize American values. It'll be fun watching the recriminations,
>>>> retaliations, and regret in November 2010.
>>>>
>>> What do you like about the way health insurance now works?
>> You don't tell me what to buy!
>
> No one is going to tell you what to buy.

Of *course* not ;^D <sarcasm off>

After a few years of ObamaCare, as insurance companies folk due to not
being able to compete with Uncle Sam....everyone will be told what to
buy...and their taxes will go through the roof to be able to buy
substandard "health care"....or whatever it will be referred to at that
point.

> Presently proposed bills do
> not in any way force people with private insurance to change anything.
> If you've been told otherwise you've been lied to.

ROTFLMMFAO!!!!! Hold on to your wallets folks. EVERYONE's taxes are
going to skyrocket due to Obama's health care debacle.

>

Econotron

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:22:07 PM11/22/09
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"Witziges R�tsel" <z...@roer.invalid.com> wrote in message
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Ever heard of a guillotine as a remedy against headache (medically
speaking)?
e.


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Dionysus

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:23:40 PM11/22/09
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Yep. Gonna be fun to watch it all; hope each of The Slimy 60 go down.

No Surrender!

Dionysus

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:59:46 PM11/22/09
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Once in a China Blue Moon wrote:
> In article <luKdnQGGI81yHpTW...@rcn.net>,

> 1-20-2013 <0120...@obamas-lastday.com> wrote:
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>> After a few years of ObamaCare, as insurance companies folk due to not
>> being able to compete with Uncle Sam....everyone will be told what to
>
> I get integrated care from a nonprofit. They don't have to compete; they just
> have to keep their clients satisfied. I don't care if you will be able to
> continue to spend more money for less care than I do; I do care if you skip on
> your bills and make me pay for you.
>
And government care will put your nonprofit out of the client business.
Through attrition they will steal your fellow plan participants and
they will be ushered to the government plan, until it is no longer
practice and your plan raises the price or changes the coverage, at
which point everyone in your plan will be shifted to Obama-care.


To bad you lose....

Beam Me Up Scotty

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Nov 22, 2009, 5:08:12 PM11/22/09
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Once in a China Blue Moon wrote:
> In article <4B09757...@Talk-n-dog.com>,

> Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destro...@Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
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> If you don't buy any, then you're telling me to pay for you. Thanks.
>


You never paid a dime for me and I have had a great life without
insurance, thank you.

Why do I have to pay for Africans health care? Your Logic is breaking
down.... you're concerned that I must pay, but you are happy if the
continent of Africa sends me their bill?

You are defeating your own argument by forcing me to pay for African
health care. Sorry but you are another Liberal/Socialist nut with no
rational basis for your opinions.


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Democracy Highlander

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:14:50 PM11/22/09
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Keep in mind that US barely rank #37 as quality of health care
available for the average citizen,
yet for this pathetic #37 place we pay per capita more that twice as
#1, France.
Another study found that Brits are way healthier than Americans
despite the fact that they smoke more, drink much more and pay per
capita for healthcare only 40% from what we pay.
In newborn mortality US score behind all the industrial world, yet we
pay more that twice as anybody else.

Medicare have an administrative overhead of under 2% while private
insurers work with administrative overheads between 35 to over 60%.
This is an inefficient as it can get.
Unless this huge insurance industry oligopoly have a true competitor
they will never ever try to do anything to improve the care for the
money, but just jack premiums and cut benefits.

No public plan in Europe have so much rationalization as the private
insurers in US. Cap limits, uncovered expenses, uncovered
"experimental" procedures (some of them labeled "experimental" despite
the fact they were discovered/invented in 1950s), deductible,
preconditions, copayments, maximum per member/family or lifetime
maximum etc... all these are nothing else but CARE RATIONALIZATION at
it worst, to pump up profits.
And the rationalization decision is taken by a faceless bureaucrat
from insurance company not in order to provide a chance to life to a
sicker man but to give more bonuses to the multi millionaire CEOs.

For almost a whole CENTURY, the private industry had the opportunity
to improve the care in US. They failed over and over and over again a
hundred times. Always they just increased premiums, cut benefits and
overpriced out low wage hard working Americans.

Millions and millions of Americans were forced in bankruptcy or lost
houses due to medical expenses. There in NOT A SINGLE BANKRUPTCY in
all the Western Europe due to medical care. Not a single one.

hal

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:36:46 PM11/22/09
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liar.

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kim

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:36:31 AM11/23/09
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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:56:05 -0800, Once in a China Blue Moon
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <XNKdnaz49qNKH5TW...@rcn.net>,


> 1-20-2013 <0120...@obamas-lastday.com> wrote:
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>> > In article <U6mdnRuWjI1N2JTW...@giganews.com>,
>> > "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> So, the Senate's Slimy 60 showed us all last night how little they prize
>> >> American values. It'll be fun watching the recriminations, retaliations,
>> >> and
>> >> regret in November 2010.
>> >
>> > You failed.
>>
>> Imagine the sleazy back room, corruption and palm greasing that Harry
>> Reid and gang was involved in the past few days leading up to last
>> nights vote????
>

>Only about 20 of these senators are up for reelection in 2010. You failed as
>well.
LMAO

Michael Coburn

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:33:30 PM11/23/09
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I agree that some of the 60 are pretty slimy. But the lead slime balls
at this point are LIEberman, Baucus, Lincoln, Landriu, and Nelson. And
there's always Harry Reid himself.

http://GreaterVoice.org/60

--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson

AnAmericanCitizen

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:37:29 PM11/23/09
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Like everybody else, you really have no idea what the final bill is going to look
like. I would be happy to make a wager with you that all the negatives that thinking
people expect will be there....AAC

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Morton Davis

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:29:48 AM11/25/09
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"Witziges R�tsel" <z...@roer.invalid.com> wrote in message
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1: There are hundreds of health insurance companies that have les than 45%
of the market. 55% of employees are covered by their employer's self
insurance and many of those and their families are also served by employer
provided medical clinics where they pay lower copays than they would if
their employer had group insurance.

2: You have the FREEDOM OF CHOICE to buy insurance or not to buy insurance.

Those are the top 2.


Dionysus

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:39:41 AM11/25/09
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"Morton Davis" <anti...@go.com> wrote in message
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Good on you.

No Surrender!

Dionysus
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Lamont Cranston

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Nov 25, 2009, 11:28:47 AM11/25/09
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Dimdenis wrote:
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> So, the Senate's Slimy 60 showed us all last night

...that their allegiance is to the people of this country instead of to
the big insurance companies.

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