On May 1, 10:56 pm, "Moder@tor" <
Mo...@tor.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 May 2013 19:46:19 -0700 (PDT), Yer Pal Al <
caddyshack...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >Lifeline is also a program for "Low-Income Consumers"
> >> >
http://www.fcc.gov/lifeline
>
> >> They weren't and aren't giving away free 'Obamaphones' like you falsely claimed.
>
> >You can look above and in the text that you included in this post that
> >I didn't say they were "free". What a bald-faced liar you are.
>
> Your statement implied that Obama voters were happy because they have their food
> stamps and Obamaphones. You're a liar, Al.
You're the bald-faced liar saying I claimed they were free when
obviously they are not - just like section 8 housing is just a
subsidy. If the economy is going to shit the natural thing is to vote
the president out because people are really feeling a pinch. However,
Obama borrowed in just 3+ years the same amount Bush did in 8 to buy
their votes with freebies so they didn't feel that pinch.
> I'm done with you.
And I'm supposed to be surprised that after kicking your ass yet again
that you show yourself to be a pussy and run?
> >> Strike one.
>
> >> >> >> So eight years of Reagan and it was all Carters' fault? Sounds exactly like a
> >> >> >> rant you continually accuse the Leftists of. Pot, kettle....
>
> >> >> >Reagan inherited a worse economy than Obama
>
> >> >> Hahahaha. The banks had just collapsed when Obama was elected. All we had during
> >> >> Carter was high inflation. Sorry, you lose a point on that one for your
> >> >> stupidity.
>
> >> >I know, it sucks to be you:
> >> >
http://www.thestreet.com/story/11641881/1/reagan-handled-a-worse-econ...
>
> >> So this blogger is as stupid as you are. Yawn. Comparing the domino collapse of
> >> the banking system in the US to high inflation is pretty damned stupid, even for
> >> your standards, Al.
>
> >Barry got more money from Wall Street for the 2008 election than
> >McCain.
>
> Big deal. Wall Street backs the candidate that can do them the most good.
Oh, I see you are not "done with" me. That's because you are a fucking
liar. Surprise, surprise...
> Got
> anything against the stock market?
I have something against quid pro quo agreements that comes out of my
pocket.
> >Then Barry gave Wall Street a whole ton of money in return and
> >you are sucking on a "too big to fail" myth.
>
> Cite? Spewing the Rightard parrot points again, are we?
This where you can see Obama getting more money from Wall Street for
the 2008 election.
http://www.opensecrets.org/
Here's criticism of Obama's "Too Big To Fail":
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/25/sherrod-brown-big-banks_n_3156166.html
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/14/obamas-speech-too-big-to-fail-gets-bigger/
And after we get taken to the cleaners by Wall Street Obama can't do
anything about it without implicating himself:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/06/why-can-t-obama-bring-wall-street-to-justice.html
> >Almost all of the time
> >liberals despise Wall Street but it's OK when their leader sells out
> >to them.
>
> I can't speak for Liberals, but I certainly don't despise Wall Street. My
> investments are doing rather well. Stock market almost at a record high. Are you
> pissed about this?
I hope you make a lot a money. It doesn't hurt me at all. However,
those aren't conservatives at Occupy Wall Street. I would not believe
you if you said it would have been OK for Bush to take Wall Street
money for his election and then bail them out. You have no cred.
> >> >> >and 5 years later it's
> >> >> >still Bush's fault.
>
> >> >> According to you.
>
> >> >The bad economy started in 2007 according to me. That corresponds with
> >> >an incoming Democrat House and Senate.
>
> >> That's your explanation as to why it is Bush's fault? Again I find myself
> >> debating with a complete moron.
>
> >Your non-response is noted.
>
> My non-response as to why you think it is Bush's fault? WTF? You are seriously
> losing it Stimpy.
You didn't address the timing between a Democrat congress and the
decline of the economy. I don't blame you for wanting to avoid that.
However, you own your own cowardice.
> >> >> >But along those lines Reagan had far too much
> >> >> >class to blame Carter. The blame/victim game is a hallmark of liberals
> >> >> >so we will expect Obama to play childish for some time to come.
>
> >> >> He says as he blames liberals. So Al, are you a closet liberal? You seem to play
> >> >> the blame game better than most liberals I know. Or are you simply lying your
> >> >> ass off again. Probably the latter.
>
> >> Crickets.
>
> >I can place the blame where it belongs. I don't have to be a uniter
> >like Reagan.
>
> I'll quote Your Lying Pal Al here: "The blame/victim game is a hallmark of
> liberals." Congratulations on being a Liberal, Al.
Knock yourself out. See if that sticks.
> >> >> >> >Americans saw the country going in the right direction, and it was.
> >> >> >> >The recovery began in November 1982 and we saw 92 months without a
> >> >> >> >recession - the previous peacetime record being only 58 months.
>
> >> >> >> Nice exact copy from an article, Al. That's called plagiarism when you don't
> >> >> >> include quotes and cite it.
>
> >> >> >Plagiarism is what Democrats like Joe Biden do:
> >> >> >
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/18/us/biden-admits-plagiarism-in-schoo...
>
> >> >> >It's when you copy someone else's work and pretend that it's your own
> >> >> >which of course I didn't do.
>
> >> >> You copied, word for word, a paragraph from an article without citing it. Shall
> >> >> I embarass you with which one you copied it from? Or should you just admit you
> >> >> are too stupid to have your own thoughts and must borrow them from others with
> >> >> more intelligence than you?
>
> >> >> >Of course I have to look up the
> >> >> >definition for you because you are stupid mother fucker:
>
> >> >> No, actually you had to look it up because you didn't know what it meant. Be
> >> >> honest now.
>
> >> >I ended that really silly argument with the definition which was my
> >> >intent.
>
> >> Which proved you were guilty of it. Duly noted.
>
> >Guilty of what? Putting your silly argument away?
>
> No, guilty of plagiarism.
You are guilty of being an idiot. I'd have a better chance of proving
that in court than you.
> Since you can't seem to think for yourself, you have
> to copy and paste ideas of others without citing them to try and make yourself
> look like more than the simpleton you actually are.
Where did I "cut and paste" it from and where did I claim that that
was my own research? 92 months of expansion is common knowledge and
has countless sources.
You Google,"What is Reagan remembered for" and this is what you get;
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/06/reagan.main/
When you have to search for Leftist websites that are only critical
you marginalize yourself and that is a good thing.
> >That is why he is one of the most
> >popular presidents ever.
>
> According to polls I have seen on the topic, most specifically a C-Span poll,
> there are at least three Republican presidents more popular than Reagan and sic
> Democrat presidents. Lying again, Al?
That 2009 poll (of historians) puts him in the top 10 and Clinton at
15.
> >> >> >> >That is why a successful Reagan saw his popular vote numbers rise 24%
> >> >> >> >and Obama's failure gave him a 5% decline in their second term re-
> >> >> >> >election.
>
> >> >> >> So if Obama was even half as bad as you continually try and paint him, why
> >> >> >> didn't he lose the election?
>
> >> >> >He lost ground in the election. If he would have run out of buying-
> >> >> >votes stimulus-money earlier he would have.
>
> >> >> Not a chance.
>
> >> >Democrats think we can just print more money of course that isn't the
> >> >reality.
>
> >> Not one Dem I know believes that.
>
> >Why don't you clue them in then:
> >
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57400369-503544/national-debt-...
>
> Debt and the printing of money are two entirely different things.
"Printing money" is a metaphor for flooding the economy with currency
- like $6T over the last 4 years. I suppose your point is valid, given
the failure of our public school system, as there may be some
Democrats who promote actually printing more paper money and handing
it out.
> Again, I seem
> to be debating with a complete moron. And now he wants me to try and convince
> Democratic friends of mine to believe what he bogusly claims Dems believe.
I don't care to hear about your partisan circle jerk where everything
conservative is bad and Reagan's accomplishments are ignored.
> Simply unbelievable that one person could be so stooooopid.
And yet so successful. There's an incongruence in your perspective.
> >> You lying again, boy? Your nick should be Your
> >> Lying Pal Al. Fits you better.
>
> >> >> Look at the urban/rural demographics as they relate to votes.
>
> >> >Poor people live in urban squalor. Wealthy Democrats live in gated
> >> >urban communities. Republicans grow food.
>
> >> More lies. Blacks and Hispanics populate large areas of rural communities, but
> >> they voted Dem. And all of the central business cities of the US voted Dem as
> >> well. And which Rightards actually grow food? Your answer
> >> here ->_________________________
>
> Crickets.
You as a racist, have to inject race into everything. OK, prove that a
large percentage of Blacks and Hispanics populate rural communities.
It's an obvious falsehood.
Here is a map of the counties for the last election. The Heartland, as
always, votes Republican:
http://www.decodedscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Election-results-by-county.png
> >> >> Romney got the goober votes, Obama the city intellectual vote.
>
> >> >Sorry but Obama's most faithful demographic was the high school drop
> >> >out. He won that demographic 64% to Romney's 35%. Romney's most
> >> >faithful demographic was the college graduate at 51%.
>
> >> Been through that too many times. Less than 3% of the vote.
>
> >It's very meaningful though.
>
> No, it is wrong. You admitted it yourself several times when we debated this
> very subject. Here, I'll copy your statement from above again and show you:
>
> Your Lying Pal Al said: "Obama's most faithful demographic was the high school
> drop out."
This is true. Obama's most faithful educational demographic is the
high school drop out.
> In previous debates on this subject you furiously backpeddled
Prove it... Oh, wait... You can't... Because you are bald-faced liar.
> when I handed your
> butt to you and modified the claim to be "Obama's most faithful *education*
> demographic was the high school drop out."
>
> Which is also false. The most votes Obama received from an educational
> demographic point of view were some college. You really need to take a math and
> statistics course as well (in addition to reading). Here are the actual Obama
> vote percentages based on the CNN cite you provided for that election:
>
> No HS 1.92%
> HS 10.71%
> Some college 14.21%
> College grads 13.63%
> Postgrads 9.90%
>
> So, again, Your Lying Pal Al. Which is the educational demographic where Obama
> receives the most votes?
I did not say in which demographic he he got the most votes. I'm
saying which one is his most "faithful" as in reliable. When you
change the metric to those (your "most votes") terms *****YOU FUCKING
LOSE AGAIN!!!*****
Here's Romney's numbers:
No HS 1.05%
HS 10.08%
Some college 13.92%
College grads 14.79%
Postgrads 7.56%
Romney got the most votes from "College Grads" and Obama got the most
votes from "Some College".
Sucks to be you. Too bad, so sad.
> >If you could say that Republicans owned
> >the KKK vote you wouldn't leave that alone even though they are a
> >small fraction of a percentage.
>
> Hypothetical straw man, but I'll bite. I wouldn't say it was their most faithful
> demographic. That would be patently false. Same as with your statement. Let's go
> further. Let's say that there was only one person (again, hypothetical) who was
> totally uneducated, no school whatsoever, but was registered to vote and always
> voted Republican. 100% in that category every time. Would you say that was their
> most faithful educational demographic? If so, why?
Yes, of course if he votes Republican 100% of the time. You can count
on that. That is reliable. That is faithful.
With that faithful demographic would the Republicans be better off
making 10's of millions of voters just like him? 100% faithful?
Democrats benefit by the education being shit. If they can get twice
as many kids to drop out they will get more votes.
> >If Romney would have got 2/3rds of the
> >HS drop out vote like Obama did he would of won Florida
>
> True, however Florida's educational demographics aren't so representative of the
> nation. But then again, if ifs and buts were all candy and nuts we'd all have a
> Merry Christmas. Romney didn't get the extra votes and lost. Wasn't the only
> state, but a very pivotal one. And it doesn't work at all in proving
> faithfulness of a demographic, does it?
It shows that the HS demographic isn't as meaningless as you imply.
> >HS drop outs are the high water mark for Democrats. As soon as they
> >graduate Barry's percentage of the vote goes from 64% to 51%. When
> >they get some college it goes down again to 49%. When they graduate
> >from college it goes down again to just 47%.
>
> Look at the % of voters in each category, do the math and get back to us, ok?
> Your lies are getting real stale. Until you can become a bit more educated in
> your statements, I'm out. Life is simply way too short to spend it on morons
> like you.
The point is that Democrats have reason to keep everyone dumb. If they
can keep people from graduating from HS they will get more of that
demographic and more votes.