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TIME to close down the IRS, we who said they were out of control were correct

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BeamMeUpScotty

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May 16, 2013, 1:42:42 PM5/16/13
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Obama is so stupid he didn't know the IRS was targeting people......

I've been telling you this for 6 years.


And Obama also wants to "and has been" expanding the IRS.


Why would we do something like expand the IRS like Obama wants, when he
himself is so stupid he couldn't even manage the IRS well enough to keep
it from going rogue. Obama caused IRS TYRANNY all on his own by NOT
watching them. Obama failed yet again.... how many failures is Obama
going to get before Liberals actually hang one on Obama himself?

So far it's all just Liberal-Socialism that has been failing and Obama
had nothing to do with it because he was ON VACATION again.


TIME to close down the IRS, we who said they were out of control were
correct and those like Obama that say the IRS and bigger government work
was absolutely wrong.
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*Rumination*
#3.0.1 - Liberals seem to think the only gun owners with any rights are
the criminals.....

Notuf Questions

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May 16, 2013, 4:05:04 PM5/16/13
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On May 16, 1:42 pm, BeamMeUpScotty
Abolish the IRS ?? How supply roads, military, clean water ... ???

BeamMeUpScotty

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May 16, 2013, 4:12:39 PM5/16/13
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A sales tax, after you repeal the 16 amendment and the income tax and
IRS is gone. It was a 100 year experiment and it failed as all
Liberal-Socialist policies do.

IRS
1913-20013
R.I.P.




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*Rumination*





*Love your country, but fear your Government*

Reducing regulations is primary since regulation is what stifles
commerce, the more regulations, the more it costs our economy. Most
regulations are used by existing businesses to reduce competition, and
competition would help us get out of this depression.

End the "war on drugs" make them legal (increase competition) and sold
at any drug store and push for prostitution to be legal too, that will
take the BIG money out of trafficking in drugs, and that will reduce the
gangs/dealers income and that should reduce the value of sex slaves and
hurt the human trafficking business income also. Why have illegal
prostitutes when there are so many legal tax paying prostitutes out there?


Create Bi-color money, Red money for inside the USA and Original Green
money outside the USA..... NOTHING BUT A COLOR/INK difference, and
suddenly sending red money home to Mexico would be useless as the RED
money would be useless in Mexico since the Banks and etc wouldn't accept
it abroad. All electronic money leaving the USA would be debited the
Sales tax when the money is sent/spent.

The Drug dealers would have Red money that they need to exchange for
green money, makes it hard to do in large amounts and hard to spend and
more expensive to deal with….. that *makes Drug smuggling less*
*profitable* as would dropping the income tax and installing a
NATIONAL “NEW ITEM” SALES TAX *NOT* IMPLEMENTING A VAT TAX WHICH WILL
HELP THE DRUG DEALERS and illegals by making their tax free money
leaving the country even more valuable. If they had to buy/exchange the
RED money for GREEN money then you would charge the sales tax at that
point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FshBjkS6U&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dogpile.com%2Finfo.dogpl.prefer%2Fsearch%2Fweb%3Fq%3Dportugal-legalizes-drugs--crime-usage-falls

Have the States Ratify an amendment withdrawing the 16th amendment...
Maybe enact something similar to the http://fairtax.org (Federal sales
tax) *BUT NOT A VAT or VALUE ADDED TAX* with the same mendment that
removes income tax and the IRS, preferably a Federal *NEW ITEM* sales tax.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7AgwtSzxt8

This will reduce the number of tax crimes that people are in jails for
and it will give the people back their privacy. It will also promote
*GREEN* living where people will save more and waste less and buy second
hand and wear things out rather than discard and buy new. Then add to
the amendment that *if congress raises any tax by* 1% *they are forced*
*to cut* every single expenditure of the *government by* 3%.

Begin to draw down troops as needed from around the world. Put half of
our military bases along the southern Border to minimize the amount of
border that the Border patrol needs to watch, the military and Federal
trespassing laws will push the illegals to spaces between the military
bases.

This tax/border policy will financially assault the drug dealers and
hookers and other underground economy's by forcing them to have to pay
tax when they *spend their money* , which will further reduce the
benefit of dealing in other illegal stuff. There needs to be one type
of dollar for use inside America and one type(color) of dollars for use
outside the USA. That will make it harder for smugglers to get money out
of the country and if they do spend it here then they will pay the sales
tax and that money is used to enforce the laws to catch smugglers and
terrorists. We are "right now" taking money from peoples pay checks
before they get them and at the same time we don't tax drug dealers
terrorists or hookers or illegals or others at all, we are penalizing
the working Americans and giving a TAX loop hole bonus to illegal
activity. Sales tax will also encourage saving money rather than
encouraging the leveraging of every dime you can borrow like income tax
does.

This will drive people in the underground economy to become part of the
real economy. It will stop most of the turf killings and end our
immigration problems with illegals stealing identities since they will
be paying tax(as sales tax). Offer illegals less welfare and charge them
tax and they won't be so eager to come here and we won't need to chase
them......

End Social Security/Medicare, grandfather it out of existence.

Pass an amendment to the constitution that makes all
*laws_and_treaties* have a seven year sunset clause, and it requires
that each law/treaty be voted by a separate roll call vote every seven
years to continue to be maintained in our laws.

There should also be some constitutional amendments to stifle congress'
borrowing and spending making it more difficult for that process. And a
constitutional amendment to limit the Interstate Commerce Clause. The
politicians use that clause to justify all sorts of socialist crap. The
founding fathers never meant for it to be so broadly applied. Limit it
with an amendment, so government can't justify every crazy idea by
saying its legal under the interstate commerce clause.

Pass another amendment creating term limits on congress so the House
has 6 terms and the Senate has 2 terms, for a total of 12 years in
either side of congress. WE NEED TO STOP CONGRESS FROM PASSING FRIVOLOUS
LAWS TAXES AND BORROWING AND ENDLESSLY PRINTING MONEY.

To quit filling the jails with people over *social taboos* , we need to
take away congress' ability to "social engineer" businesses or private
people by removing the governments use of tax code to manipulate people.

Government needs to spend 10% less every year until they meet the
income of the government. The best way, is to
*use_both_cutting_and_taxing* , the Congress should implement a rule to
force an across the board spending freeze/cap (That only allows cutting
spending) and then across the board cuts on the government spending, to
do that we have to include a law in our TAX amendment to the
constitution that can't be easily circumvented, to force them to cut
spending 3% for every 1% Congress raise taxes. So any federal sales tax
increase would result in automatic spending cuts using a baseline of 10%
taxes.

And we need to give up our roll as the police man of the world, let
them fight their own fights. We also need fewer crimes for people to be
committing, we need fewer police and prisons to support.... the above
drug and tax plan, will reduce police and prison needs by at least that
10% that this plan suggested cutting each year.

NO welfare to corporations, and cut welfare to private people by 10%
each year until it is 10% of today's cost. Any way you look at it, we're
in DEEP for a long time.

BeamMeUpScotty

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May 16, 2013, 4:13:31 PM5/16/13
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On 5/16/2013 4:05 PM, Notuf Questions wrote:
A sales tax, after you repeal the 16 amendment and the income tax and
IRS is gone. It was a 100 year experiment and it failed as all
Liberal-Socialist policies do.

IRS
1913-2013
R.I.P.


*Rumination*
#34 - Government employees call hemorrhoids a workplace injury.

Transition Zone

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May 16, 2013, 4:21:21 PM5/16/13
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On May 16, 4:13 pm, BeamMeUpScotty
How do you supply highways? customs? the military? the post
office? financial companies? on and on ...

BeamMeUpScotty

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May 16, 2013, 4:32:45 PM5/16/13
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That would be the sweetest part, "I" wouldn't.... it would be people
that actually want to use them and they buy the right to do so.


Like they built Rail Roads and steam ships 150 years ago.


You want to go to the moon, buy a seat or build a space ship.


Orville and Wilbur wanted to fly, they built a plane.


If you have a nuclear Bomb why do you need a military.... all you need
is an app on the President's cell phone to fire them.






Transition Zone

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May 16, 2013, 4:44:35 PM5/16/13
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On May 16, 4:32 pm, BeamMeUpScotty
The world doesn't go by "you".

>it would be people
> that actually want to use them and they buy the right to do so.
>
> Like they built Rail Roads and steam ships 150 years ago.

Nope. Many times, they used federal funds for both.

> You want to go to the moon, buy a seat or build a space ship.
>
> Orville and Wilbur wanted to fly, they built a plane.
>
>If you have a nuclear Bomb why do you need a military....  all you
need
> is an app on the President's cell phone to fire them.

Where would the president's salary and administration get its money
from, then??

Stormin Mormon

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May 16, 2013, 4:55:21 PM5/16/13
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Same way we did before IRS.
Roads and water are state's
responsibility. Same with water.
.
Christopher A. Young
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David J. Hughes

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May 16, 2013, 5:18:24 PM5/16/13
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Roads are, in theory, paid for by taxes on gasoline and diesel.
Clean water by regulatory fees.
The framers of the Constitution thought a standing army was a bad idea,
they only supported a standing Navy (and, by extension, Coast Guard).

emoneyjoe

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May 16, 2013, 5:47:59 PM5/16/13
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Isn't he suggesting a sales tax like failure
Europe has?


The time has come for governments to
create the money they need, spend it, then
tax the assets of those who retain the most
money.

Taxing those who try the hardest and
succeed the most is more like a penalty
than a tax.

The predicted reduction in the US
deficit is encouraging, but too many
things are going left undone, and for
government to do things, money is
needed.





BeamMeUpScotty

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May 16, 2013, 5:57:43 PM5/16/13
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NO, because they have a VAT and an income Tax simultaneously in EUROPE
and I call that economic suicide.

*Rumination*
#1.0.1 - because nothing creates economic chaos more than paying your debts?

BeamMeUpScotty

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May 16, 2013, 6:11:05 PM5/16/13
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On 5/16/2013 4:55 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Same way we did before IRS.
> Roads and water are state's
> responsibility. Same with water.



------------------------------------
> Abolish the IRS ?? How supply roads,
> military, clean water ... ???
>
The Feds supply me with clean water?



I have yet to get my shipment....


The filter I use is one I buy with "after tax" income.

Stormin Mormon

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May 16, 2013, 6:13:44 PM5/16/13
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Didn't you know? Obama gives you
clean air, too.

Bush tried to take your clean air away.
Must be true, they said so on TV.
.
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James

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Libs are always saying we should be more like Europe which is strange.
They have a terrible record of stability and seem to be making it worse.
Over time, our way has been a success from the get go. Now that there is
no more territory to further any country's colonisation or expansion,
it's time the world sorted out what works and what doesn't.

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On 5/16/2013 3:21 PM, Transition Zone wrote:

>
> How do you supply highways? customs? the military? the post
> office? financial companies? on and on ...
>


The rightTards are taking America back to 1776 - dirt roads,
slavery, no bridges, no military, no infrastructure.

FirstPost

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If you're so simple minded as to believe such nonsense then you
deserve to be the miserable paranoid moron that you are.

FirstPost

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On 5/17/2013 10:03 AM, Cubano Rubio : Another anchor baby whose
And you are saying life was bad in 1776?


They had just created the most amazing Nation ever created on this planet.


That was just a backward time wasn't it?

BeamMeUpScotty

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On 5/16/2013 4:55 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Same way we did before IRS.
> Roads and water are state's
> responsibility. Same with water.



------------------------------------
> Abolish the IRS ?? How supply roads,
> military, clean water ... ???
>

The Feds supply me with clean water?


I have yet to get my free government shipment....


The filter I use is one that I buy with "after tax" income.


And the filter takes out the stuff the Feds say that they don't allow in
the water.


Shouldn't I be getting a refund from the government since they don't
give me already clean water for free?



BeamMeUpScotty

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On 5/16/2013 4:05 PM, Notuf Questions wrote:
A sales tax, after you repeal the 16 amendment and the income tax and
IRS is gone. It was a 100 year experiment and it failed as all
Liberal-Socialist policies do.

IRS
1913-2013
R.I.P.


Transition Zone

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May 17, 2013, 4:19:59 PM5/17/13
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>> office ?  financial companies?  on and on . . .
>
> Isn't he suggesting a sales tax like failure
>Europe has ?

Per capita, Europe and Canada are richer. So, it must be working.

Transition Zone

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On May 16, 10:12 pm, "James" <kingk...@fewpb.net> wrote:
> "BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> messagenews:pDclt.189979$6r1....@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com
No way. Name any liberal that ever said for us to "be more like
Europe".

BeamMeUpScotty

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May 17, 2013, 4:42:26 PM5/17/13
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You are admitting to your Liberal Wealth envy.....?


If Europe wants to sell their freedom for "THINGS" then great and maybe
you need to be a European.




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emoneyjoe

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May 17, 2013, 8:56:38 PM5/17/13
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What, no reference?

What could the GNP products be in the countries
with a higher GNP than the US?

http://www.studentsoftheworld.info/infopays/rank/PNBH2.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita


But richer is assets per person,


Financial Assets Per Capita:

USA $132,178

Japan $115,159

UK $98,511

France $79,801

Canada $78,240

Germany $73,850

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/15/11-richest-countries_n_717558.html#s140020&title=1_USA


No country in the world produces as many
different appliances, trinkets, or anything else
as the US.

But for some reason, even with all the
oil income, Arab countries are not listed.







FirstPost

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On Fri, 17 May 2013 20:56:38 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:
That's because their oil income is just about the only income they
have as a nation.
If you check the stats, the arab nations in the middle east are pretty
piss poor in terms of per capita.
Take Saudi Arabia for example:
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/saudi-arabia/gdp-per-capita

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/saudi-arabia/gdp-per-capita-ppp

emoneyjoe

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The buck stops here, remember?





Transition Zone

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May 18, 2013, 2:11:01 PM5/18/13
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Repubs liek Pat Buchanan always do say "take back our streets", right?

emoneyjoe

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And what does a dummy think he means?






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