Boycott CBS Sponsors
Irie
creating news as opposed to reporting it, I was hoping someone could post a
complete list of their sponsors. I think some of us would like to abstain
from supporting them until Dan is fired.
Here is a partial list:
Chevy and P&G including the Chevy Colorado, the Chevy Malibu Max, and the
Chevy Equinox. P&G brands included CoverGirl, Tide, Crest and Oil of Olay.
American Express
Corona
St. Ives
Chrysler
Monster.com
Clairol
Yes, I love boycotts.
Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.
--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957
Scream Machine
admins war propaganda and smuggly saying Iraq was developing weapons of mass
destruction?
Ever since this retardlican administration has taken power, news reporting
has been turned upside down.
"Irie" <t...@theway.com> wrote in message
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Irie
"Scream Machine" <sh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> How about firing and boycotting all media for getting swept up into the
> Bush
> admins war propaganda and smuggly saying Iraq was developing weapons of
> mass
> destruction?
Okay, and how about Egypt, Saudi, France, Spain et. al. itellegence agencies
that said Saddam had WMD? Oh, right . . . we shouldn't believe anything
coutries say since the knowledge the likes of France, Germany and Russia
were getting paid off by Saddam. Too bad we didn't know they were corrupt
before Iraq. What a shame.
>
> Ever since this retardlican administration has taken power, news reporting
> has been turned upside down.
I see, it's the adminstration's fault that Dan and CBS are apparently
distorting the news! Right, of course . . . how could I not see that
coming?
ding...@ling.ling
>Seeing it looks a lot like Dan Rather and CBS have taken the liberty of
>creating news as opposed to reporting it, I was hoping someone could post a
>complete list of their sponsors. I think some of us would like to abstain
>from supporting them until Dan is fired.
>
>Here is a partial list:
Good idea. I've seen those same brands advertised on Fox, so we
can take care of both of those "news creators" on one bypass...
Edw
> creating news as opposed to reporting it, I was hoping someone could post
a
> complete list of their sponsors. I think some of us would like to abstain
> from supporting them until Dan is fired.
CBS says, and you haven't shown otherwise, that the story is accurate.
The carping about fonts and superscript was demonstrated inaccurate; some
typewriters have had that capability since 1968, including the one used to
type the documents Bush himself released. Or do you say those are forgeries
too?
Are you suggesting a boycott because CBS is partisan?
Why not the Moonie Times?
The WSJ?
The LA Times?
Clear Channel Communications?
Fox News?
The Chicago Tribune?
The New York Post?
The Hartford Courant?
The Miami Herald?
The Atlanta Constitution?
The Fort Worth Star-Telegram?
The Houston Chronicle?
>
> Here is a partial list:
>
> http://www.cbs.com/sales/
>
> Chevy and P&G including the Chevy Colorado, the Chevy Malibu Max, and the
> Chevy Equinox. P&G brands included CoverGirl, Tide, Crest and Oil of Olay.
>
> American Express
>
> Corona
>
> St. Ives
>
> Chrysler
>
> Monster.com
>
> Clairol
>
> Yes, I love boycotts.
You love hypocrisy.
Edw
> Hey Scream.
> "Scream Machine" <sh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eMK1d.431275$gE.426707@pd7tw3no...
> > How about firing and boycotting all media for getting swept up into the
> > Bush
> > admins war propaganda and smuggly saying Iraq was developing weapons of
> > mass
> > destruction?
>
> Okay, and how about Egypt, Saudi, France, Spain et. al. itellegence
agencies
> that said Saddam had WMD? Oh, right . . . we shouldn't believe anything
> coutries say since the knowledge the likes of France, Germany and Russia
> were getting paid off by Saddam. Too bad we didn't know they were corrupt
> before Iraq. What a shame.
Is all you know lies?
There were no payoffs. France has long done business with Iraq. But, then,
so did we. Russia inherited an alliance with the Baaths from the cold war.
Germany used to get a sizable chunk of their oil from Iraq, so they didn't
have to do business with Russia.
They aren't corrupt, they're sovereign, fool.
Roger
Grow up.
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Irie
"Edw" <the...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Irie" <t...@theway.com> wrote in message
> news:VnK1d.38596$OZ6.15963@okepread06...
>> Seeing it looks a lot like Dan Rather and CBS have taken the liberty of
>> creating news as opposed to reporting it, I was hoping someone could post
> a
>> complete list of their sponsors. I think some of us would like to
>> abstain
>> from supporting them until Dan is fired.
>
> CBS says,
Yeah, quite the reliable source on this story.
> and you haven't shown otherwise, that the story is accurate.
Well, the circumstantial evidence is petty overwhelming. Three of the
documents are perfect replicas of the same letter typed out on MS Word, a
CBS official said that the documents were never authenticated, the 'th' was
raised, the person who would have typed them said her typewriter did not
have that ability and the guy who supposedly wrote them was out of the
Service on the date the letters were written. I am sure that is not enough
evidence for you, but for the rest of us it is pretty good.
> The carping about fonts and superscript was demonstrated inaccurate;
LOL, how so? Any news organization worth it's salt stating this?
> some
> typewriters have had that capability since 1968, including the one used to
> type the documents Bush himself released.
I am not buying it. Please cite.
> Or do you say those are forgeries
> too?
Let's see some evidence and I'll let you know.
>
> Are you suggesting a boycott because CBS is partisan?
No, because Dan is not a credible person.
> Why not the Moonie Times?
Why should I?
> The WSJ?
Why should I?
> The LA Times?
Why should I?
> Clear Channel Communications?
Why should I?
> Fox News?
Why should I?
> The Chicago Tribune?
Why should I?
> The New York Post?
Why should I?
> The Hartford Courant?
Why should I?
> The Miami Herald?
Why should I?
> The Atlanta Constitution?
Why should I?
> The Fort Worth Star-Telegram?
Why should I?
> The Houston Chronicle?
>
Why should I?
>>
>> Here is a partial list:
>>
>> http://www.cbs.com/sales/
>>
>> Chevy and P&G including the Chevy Colorado, the Chevy Malibu Max, and the
>> Chevy Equinox. P&G brands included CoverGirl, Tide, Crest and Oil of
>> Olay.
>>
>> American Express
>>
>> Corona
>>
>> St. Ives
>>
>> Chrysler
>>
>> Monster.com
>>
>> Clairol
>>
>> Yes, I love boycotts.
>
> You love hypocrisy.
How so?
Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.
-
Irie
>
> "Irie" <t...@theway.com> wrote in message
> news:EYK1d.39284$OZ6.27202@okepread06...
>> Hey Scream.
>> "Scream Machine" <sh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eMK1d.431275$gE.426707@pd7tw3no...
>> > How about firing and boycotting all media for getting swept up into the
>> > Bush
>> > admins war propaganda and smuggly saying Iraq was developing weapons of
>> > mass
>> > destruction?
>>
>> Okay, and how about Egypt, Saudi, France, Spain et. al. itellegence
> agencies
>> that said Saddam had WMD? Oh, right . . . we shouldn't believe anything
>> coutries say since the knowledge the likes of France, Germany and Russia
>> were getting paid off by Saddam. Too bad we didn't know they were
>> corrupt
>> before Iraq. What a shame.
>
> Is all you know lies?
>
Cite any proof that this has been discredited.
> There were no payoffs. France has long done business with Iraq. But,
> then,
> so did we.
Yeah, but we stopped when sanctions were placed on Saddam.
> Russia inherited an alliance with the Baaths from the cold war.
> Germany used to get a sizable chunk of their oil from Iraq, so they didn't
> have to do business with Russia.
So sanctions from the UN really mean nothing? What's the point then?
> They aren't corrupt, they're sovereign, fool.
No, signing a document saying you will do something then doing it anyway may
be sovereign, but it is also corrupt, Edw. Shall I site the definition of
both words for you, or can you do that on your own?
>>
>> >
>> > Ever since this retardlican administration has taken power, news
> reporting
>> > has been turned upside down.
>>
>> I see, it's the adminstration's fault that Dan and CBS are apparently
>> distorting the news! Right, of course . . . how could I not see that
>> coming?
>>
By your lack of response to this, I guess you agree that blaming Bush for
CBS's indiscretions is really a joke. Thank you.
Irie
Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.
--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957
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The Pretzel
Mr. N
> Seeing it looks a lot like Dan Rather and CBS have taken the liberty of
> creating news as opposed to reporting it,
Why don't you mind when Fox News does it?
Ask for a cite. I dare you.
--
-My Real Name
***********************************
"Precisely because America is powerful, we must be sensitive about
expressing our power and influence."
-George W. Bush, Commissioning of the USS Ronald Reagan
http://www.reagan.navy.mil/bush_speech.htm
Irie
Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.
--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957
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Mr. N
> Yes, cite.
Damn, you Bush defenders are some stupid motherfuckers.
Have someone who can read go over this with you:
http://mediamatters.org/search.html?string=fox+news
Irie
>
> "Irie" <t...@theway.com> wrote in message
> news:NZN1d.28949$aW5.11342@fed1read07...
>
>> Yes, cite.
>
> Damn, you Bush defenders are some stupid motherfuckers.
>
> Have someone who can read go over this with you:
>
> http://mediamatters.org/search.html?string=fox+news
>
Awe, what's samatta Mr. N, am I getting under your skin? The facts sure are
difficult things to face, I am sure. That's okay, I'll learn you young man.
"mediamatters.org"? Gee, with all the bickering amongst the networks and
cable news today, you'd think they'd pick up on this. Hmm, I wonder why? I
mean, if even an once of what this site alleges is based in truth, I am sure
one of the networks would report it like gospel. Particularly considering
the liberties Dan and CBS have taken. Maybe you can answer that one for me.
I'll be waiting for your answer in both threads.
George Washington Hayduke
>Seeing it looks a lot like Dan Rather and CBS have taken the liberty of
>creating news as opposed to reporting it
That's strange... nothing in the news about this. You sure?
+--+
|Rathergate explosive: Yep, Killian Documents are genuine:
| http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/09/11/MNGO68NEKR1.DTL
| http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/11/politics/campaign/11guard.html
| http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-09-09bushdocs.pdf
| http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/14/bush_service/index.html
|Hezbollah endorses George W. Bush: http://www.hezbollah.ws/
+--+
The Pretzel
I'll be making an extra effort to use some of the products below.
I'll buy Corona beer with AmeX.
BTW.
How is it a big sacrifice to you?
Pfizer's Viagra isn't on the list. Too bad for you Viagra doesn't do anything
about size....
LOL!
"Irie" <t...@theway.com> wrote in message
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Mr. N
> "mediamatters.org"?
Uh-huh.
> I mean, if even an once of what this site alleges is based in truth, I
> am sure one of the networks would report it like gospel.
If even an ounce of what this site demonstrates is false, then it shouldn't
be too hard for you to come up with a single example.
I'll wait.
Fucking moron.
--
-My Real Name
*************************
"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to
explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-George W. Bush, April 9, 1999
michael price
> Seeing it looks a lot like Dan Rather and CBS have taken the liberty of
> creating news as opposed to reporting it,
And your evidence of this is what? It appears that the documents
were genuine and if they weren't probably a repulican fake.
Irie
>
> "Irie" <t...@theway.com> wrote in message
> news:C6O1d.28953$aW5.7627@fed1read07...
>
>> "mediamatters.org"?
>
> Uh-huh.
>
>> I mean, if even an once of what this site alleges is based in truth, I
>> am sure one of the networks would report it like gospel.
>
> If even an ounce of what this site demonstrates is false, then it
> shouldn't be too hard for you to come up with a single example.
Of what? Do you actually believe everything you read on the Internet?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA!!
>
> I'll wait.
>
Okay.
> Fucking moron.
>
Poor misguided little person.
Irie
think it's much of a problem (sorry, couldn't help myself)!
Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.
--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957
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Irie
"michael price" <nini...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Irie" <t...@theway.com> wrote in message
> news:<VnK1d.38596$OZ6.15963@okepread06>...
>> Seeing it looks a lot like Dan Rather and CBS have taken the liberty of
>> creating news as opposed to reporting it,
>
> And your evidence of this is what? It appears that the documents
> were genuine and if they weren't probably a repulican fake.
Well, there might not be enough evidence for you, but for the rest of us
there is plenty. Don't worry, you don't have to boycott CBS sponsors, I
just want the information out there for those of us who do.
Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.
--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957
>
Pennsylvania Dutch
wanted bad yesterday. The bill pushed by anti-labor republicoon Oxley
of Ohio( ask anyone about this a$$hole), makes it legal for an illegal
alien to use any foreign issued id in a banking transaction in the USA.
So any friggin' drug dealer, theif, smuggler, terrorist, you name
it...now has free access to American banks and the American financial
system---that's more freedom than you have as an American citizen!
Sweeney, Trumka, Stern, the whole bunch of fatboys better get their
heads out of their assholes---because their illegal alien policy is
opening up America for more attacks and more crime.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/roll452.xml
Edw
>
> "Edw" <the...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:mBL1d.8252$_35....@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "Irie" <t...@theway.com> wrote in message
> > news:VnK1d.38596$OZ6.15963@okepread06...
> >> Seeing it looks a lot like Dan Rather and CBS have taken the liberty of
> >> creating news as opposed to reporting it, I was hoping someone could
post
> > a
> >> complete list of their sponsors. I think some of us would like to
> >> abstain
> >> from supporting them until Dan is fired.
> >
> > CBS says,
>
> Yeah, quite the reliable source on this story.
>
> > and you haven't shown otherwise, that the story is accurate.
>
> Well, the circumstantial evidence is petty overwhelming. Three of the
> documents are perfect replicas of the same letter typed out on MS Word, a
> CBS official said that the documents were never authenticated, the 'th'
was
> raised, the person who would have typed them said her typewriter did not
> have that ability and the guy who supposedly wrote them was out of the
> Service on the date the letters were written. I am sure that is not
enough
> evidence for you, but for the rest of us it is pretty good.
So one typewriter turned out documents that match modern software, and
that's remarkable?
This secretary remembers 30 years later what her typewriter did? That's
solid?
The fellow who wrote the letters did not write them on the date they were
released.
Irie
"Edw" <the...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Yes. IT'S A TYPEWRITER!
> This secretary remembers 30 years later what her typewriter did? That's
> solid?
Well, it's what she said. You don't necessarily have to believe her.
> The fellow who wrote the letters did not write them on the date they were
> released.
How do you know? The documents are dated.
>>
>> > The carping about fonts and superscript was demonstrated inaccurate;
>>
>> LOL, how so? Any news organization worth it's salt stating this?
>>
No cite? Go figure.
>> > some
>> > typewriters have had that capability since 1968, including the one used
> to
>> > type the documents Bush himself released.
>>
>> I am not buying it. Please cite.
>>
No cite? Go figure.
>> > Or do you say those are forgeries
>> > too?
>>
>> Let's see some evidence and I'll let you know.
>>
No cite? Go figure.
>> >
>> > Are you suggesting a boycott because CBS is partisan?
>>
>> No, because Dan is not a credible person.
>>
>> > Why not the Moonie Times?
>>
>> Why should I?
>>
Well?
>> > The WSJ?
>>
>> Why should I?
>>
Well?
>> > The LA Times?
>>
>> Why should I?
Well?
>>
>> > Clear Channel Communications?
>>
>> Why should I?
Well?
>>
>> > Fox News?
>>
>> Why should I?
Well?
>>
>> > The Chicago Tribune?
>>
Well?
>> Why should I?
>>
>> > The New York Post?
>>
Well?
>> Why should I?
>>
>> > The Hartford Courant?
>>
Well?
>> Why should I?
>>
>> > The Miami Herald?
>>
>> Why should I?
Well?
>>
>> > The Atlanta Constitution?
>>
>> Why should I?
Well?
>>
>> > The Fort Worth Star-Telegram?
>>
>> Why should I?
Well?
>>
>> > The Houston Chronicle?
>> >
>> Why should I?
Well?
>>
>> >>
>> >> Here is a partial list:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.cbs.com/sales/
>> >>
>> >> Chevy and P&G including the Chevy Colorado, the Chevy Malibu Max, and
> the
>> >> Chevy Equinox. P&G brands included CoverGirl, Tide, Crest and Oil of
>> >> Olay.
>> >>
>> >> American Express
>> >>
>> >> Corona
>> >>
>> >> St. Ives
>> >>
>> >> Chrysler
>> >>
>> >> Monster.com
>> >>
>> >> Clairol
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I love boycotts.
>> >
>> > You love hypocrisy.
>>
>> How so?
Well?
Your lack of response to my questions shows that you are simply another
liberal partisan who cares nothing for his country and only for his team to
win. How pitiful.
Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you
The Pretzel
> LOL, not much. Seeing I am banging your mother seven times a day, I don't
> think it's much of a problem (sorry, couldn't help myself)!
That's why she never told me about it. Nothing much or spectacular to tell...
(sorry, couldn't help myself.)
Irie
;0) SON! ;0)
Curly Surmudgeon
> Hey Scream.
> "Scream Machine" <sh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eMK1d.431275$gE.426707@pd7tw3no...
>> How about firing and boycotting all media for getting swept up into the
>> Bush
>> admins war propaganda and smuggly saying Iraq was developing weapons of
>> mass
>> destruction?
>
> Okay, and how about Egypt, Saudi, France, Spain et. al. itellegence
> agencies that said Saddam had WMD? Oh, right . . . we shouldn't believe
> anything coutries say since the knowledge the likes of France, Germany and
> Russia were getting paid off by Saddam. Too bad we didn't know they were
> corrupt before Iraq. What a shame.
Foreign powers do not set our agenda. Bush is singularly responsible for
launching the Iraqi Debacle. Congress should be hung from the Lincoln
monument for violating their oath of office and permitting yet another
foreign war without the Constitutionally mandated Declaration of War.
But Bush is chief executive who was pounding the drumbeat of war. It is
solely his responsibility and he must pay for misleading the American
people.
>> Ever since this retardlican administration has taken power, news
>> reporting has been turned upside down.
>
> I see, it's the adminstration's fault that Dan and CBS are apparently
> distorting the news! Right, of course . . . how could I not see that
> coming?
You have it backwards. Bush is but the puppet being controlled by the
same powers that control the media.
-- Regards, Curly
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Irie
"Curly Surmudgeon" <cu...@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.09.20....@curlysurmudgeon.com...
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:15:54 -0400, Irie wrote:
>
>> Hey Scream.
>> "Scream Machine" <sh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eMK1d.431275$gE.426707@pd7tw3no...
>>> How about firing and boycotting all media for getting swept up into the
>>> Bush
>>> admins war propaganda and smuggly saying Iraq was developing weapons of
>>> mass
>>> destruction?
>>
>> Okay, and how about Egypt, Saudi, France, Spain et. al. itellegence
>> agencies that said Saddam had WMD? Oh, right . . . we shouldn't believe
>> anything coutries say since the knowledge the likes of France, Germany
>> and
>> Russia were getting paid off by Saddam. Too bad we didn't know they were
>> corrupt before Iraq. What a shame.
>
> Foreign powers do not set our agenda.
I never said they did.
> Bush is singularly responsible for
> launching the Iraqi Debacle. Congress should be hung from the Lincoln
> monument for violating their oath of office and permitting yet another
> foreign war without the Constitutionally mandated Declaration of War.
>
I disagree, but I think this is a fair statement.
> But Bush is chief executive who was pounding the drumbeat of war. It is
> solely his responsibility and he must pay for misleading the American
> people.
How did he mislead the American people?
>
>>> Ever since this retardlican administration has taken power, news
>>> reporting has been turned upside down.
>>
>> I see, it's the adminstration's fault that Dan and CBS are apparently
>> distorting the news! Right, of course . . . how could I not see that
>> coming?
>
> You have it backwards. Bush is but the puppet being controlled by the
> same powers that control the media.
If this was true, then why would there be a controversy? Why would the
"powers" controlling both entities allow Rather to do such a thing?
Jeff George
the following from "Irie" <t...@theway.com>:
>Hi Curly,
>"Curly Surmudgeon" <cu...@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in message
>news:pan.2004.09.20....@curlysurmudgeon.com...
>
>
>> But Bush is chief executive who was pounding the drumbeat of war. It is
>> solely his responsibility and he must pay for misleading the American
>> people.
>
>How did he mislead the American people?
Uh, by attempting to link Iraq to al Qaeda and making up reason after
reason for war, beginning with the "existence" of WMDs.
>> You have it backwards. Bush is but the puppet being controlled by the
>> same powers that control the media.
>
>If this was true, then why would there be a controversy? Why would the
>"powers" controlling both entities allow Rather to do such a thing?
To detract from the pathetic job as President that Bush has done.
--
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."
- The Who
"Who? What? There's an old saying in Guatemala. I know
it's in Nicaragua. Meet he new boss. We don't get fooled
again in teenage wasteland."
- George W. Bush
Irie
"Jeff George" <geor...@comcast.net.munged> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:25:57 -0400 I used my godlike powers to observe
> the following from "Irie" <t...@theway.com>:
>
>>Hi Curly,
>>"Curly Surmudgeon" <cu...@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in message
>>news:pan.2004.09.20....@curlysurmudgeon.com...
>>
>>
>>> But Bush is chief executive who was pounding the drumbeat of war. It is
>>> solely his responsibility and he must pay for misleading the American
>>> people.
>>
>>How did he mislead the American people?
>
> Uh, by attempting to link Iraq to al Qaeda and making up reason after
> reason for war, beginning with the "existence" of WMDs.
>
So the fact that Al-Zwarhari, OBL's deputy, was sent to Iraq because he was
wounded in Afghanistan and is now beheading Americans and the fact that
there are correspondence found between Saddam and OBL is not enough
evidence? What more do you want? And the whole world agreed that Saddam
had WMD, hence the 17 resolutions. The last of which guaranteed "serious
consequence" of non-compliance. But I guess to the liberal world and the
corrupt UN, 'serious consequences' means another piece of paper. Great.
>
>
>>> You have it backwards. Bush is but the puppet being controlled by the
>>> same powers that control the media.
>>
>>If this was true, then why would there be a controversy? Why would the
>>"powers" controlling both entities allow Rather to do such a thing?
>
> To detract from the pathetic job as President that Bush has done.
Right, of course. Bush wants the world to think he neglected his duties in
the National Guard. Gezz you guys are desperate.
W_D_Great_Divider
"Jeff George" <geor...@comcast.net.munged> wrote in message
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>>Hi Curly,
>>"Curly Surmudgeon" <cu...@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in message
>>news:pan.2004.09.20....@curlysurmudgeon.com...
>>> But Bush is chief executive who was pounding the drumbeat of war. It is
>>> solely his responsibility and he must pay for misleading the American
>>> people.
>>
>>How did he mislead the American people?
By telling the people and the Congress that he needed a resolution to AVOID
WAR! That he needed the resolution to get the inspectors back into Iraq.
Then rather than going back to the U.N. as was required in the resolution he
told the inspectors that they had to LEAVE Iraq because he was going to bomb
the hell out of it with his "Shock and Awe" campaign. Nice euphemism for
killing thousands of innocent Iraqi women, children, and men - young and
old. The Resolution REQUIRED Bush et al to have PROOF of immanent threat
and WMD. He LIED! He LIED! And he continues to LIE!
Irie
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>
> "Jeff George" <geor...@comcast.net.munged> wrote in message
> news:k119l0t09kgl6a9ks...@4ax.com...
>> the following from "Irie" <t...@theway.com>:
>>>Hi Curly,
>>>"Curly Surmudgeon" <cu...@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in message
>>>news:pan.2004.09.20....@curlysurmudgeon.com...
>>>> But Bush is chief executive who was pounding the drumbeat of war. It
>>>> is
>>>> solely his responsibility and he must pay for misleading the American
>>>> people.
>>>
>>>How did he mislead the American people?
>
> By telling the people and the Congress that he needed a resolution to
> AVOID WAR! That he needed the resolution to get the inspectors back into
> Iraq. Then rather than going back to the U.N. as was required in the
> resolution he told the inspectors that they had to LEAVE Iraq because he
> was going to bomb the hell out of it with his "Shock and Awe" campaign.
> Nice euphemism for killing thousands of innocent Iraqi women, children,
> and men - young and old. The Resolution REQUIRED Bush et al to have PROOF
> of immanent threat and WMD. He LIED! He LIED! And he continues to LIE!
>
>
Why did congress give him authority to attack then? After 17 resolutions,
what the solution to the problem? ANOTHER RESOLUTION? Come on. In a post
9-11 world, if a US president with the backing of Congress (yes, both Kerry
AND Edwards) that a madman such as that of Saddam must comply with
Resolution #17, then that President must follow though. Zell said it best:
"From John Kerry, they get a "yes-no-maybe" bowl of mush that can only
encourage our enemies and confuse our friends."
Irie
The heathen back there, pound the wall.
--
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give
it.
Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957
>
>
Sir Cumference
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:25:57 -0400 I used my godlike powers to observe
> the following from "Irie" <t...@theway.com>:
>
>
>>Hi Curly,
>>"Curly Surmudgeon" <cu...@curlysurmudgeon.com> wrote in message
>>news:pan.2004.09.20....@curlysurmudgeon.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>>But Bush is chief executive who was pounding the drumbeat of war. It is
>>>solely his responsibility and he must pay for misleading the American
>>>people.
>>
>>How did he mislead the American people?
>
>
> Uh, by attempting to link Iraq to al Qaeda and making up reason after
> reason for war, beginning with the "existence" of WMDs.
But in 1998, long before the war Kerry said about Saddam and WMDs:
John Kerry, 23 February 1998: "Saddam Hussein has already used these
weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try,
by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. That is a
threat to the stability of the Middle East. It is a threat with respect
to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis. It is a
threat even to regions near but not exactly in the Middle East."
Kerry was already convinced that Saddam had WMDs before Bush was President.
And after we took Saddam out Kerry says:
"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when
the President made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact
that we did disarm him."
--John F. Kerry (ABC News, 5/4/03)
But now he keeps screaming about it was the wrong war, at the wrong,
time, in the wrong place.
Flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop.
Now he says the war in Iraq has nothing to do with fighting terrorism,
but in the statement above he said, "It is a threat with respect to the
potential of terrorist activities on a global basis."
Flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop.
Kerry will say today whatever necessary to get a vote , even if he has
to say the exact opposite tomorrow to get another vote. Flip-flop,
flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop.
"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." - John F. Kerry