"Going Rouge: Sarah Palin - An American Nightmare"
"He called the response to date "phenomenal," especially among bookstores in
Alaska."
Cliffy, you seem to be fixated on Sarah Palin.
I suspect you secretly lust after her, but have nothing to party with -
neither brains nor balls. Ms. Palin seems to have you beat on both.
> Cliff wrote:
>> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/shortstack/2009/11/going_rouge_--_the_sa
>> rah_palin.html
>> "'Going Rouge': The Sarah Palin coloring book"
>>
>> "Going Rouge: Sarah Palin - An American Nightmare"
>>
>> "He called the response to date "phenomenal," especially among
>> bookstores in
>> Alaska."
>
> Cliffy, you seem to be fixated on Sarah Palin.
> I suspect you secretly lust after her, but have nothing to party with -
> neither brains nor balls. Ms. Palin seems to have you beat on both.
She's more woman than he'll ever have, more man than he'll ever be.
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
You can't do really good satire on anyone who doesn't set themselves up to a
large degree. Rarely have we had someone running for high office, at least
since Hubert Humphrey, who can be so easily satirized just by using his or
her own words with a slight shift in context or perspective (seeing Russia
from Alaska; seeing Russia from her house).
If she hadn't said so many buffoonish things in her early interviews, there
would be no material to work with. But those things made everything else she
said a potential joke. They were the setup -- and she did it all to herself.
Anyone who enjoys political satire has a hard time resisting poking her with
her own branding iron.
--
Ed Huntress
That's part of the intrigue. Has anyone done a hormone test on her? Palin
could be our first cross-gender candidate for high office. <g>
She does have great T&A, and some photos of her onstage with her fancy shoes
make her legs look like they go up to the ceiling. There's no doubting her
appeal to old white conservative men. If she was a blond, she'd be perfect.
--
Ed Huntress
rouge
[roozh]
-noun 1.any of various red cosmetics for coloring the cheeks or lips.
2.a reddish powder, chiefly ferric oxide, used for polishing metal, glass,
etc.
3.Canadian football.
-verb (used with object) 4.to color with rouge.
-verb (used without object) 5.to use rouge.
Origin:
1475-85; < F: red < L rubeus; akin to red 1
> Cliff wrote:
>> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/shortstack/2009/11/going_rouge_--_the
>> _sarah_palin.html
>> "'Going Rouge': The Sarah Palin coloring book"
>>
>> "Going Rouge: Sarah Palin - An American Nightmare"
>>
>> "He called the response to date "phenomenal," especially among
>> bookstores in
>> Alaska."
>
> Cliffy, you seem to be fixated on Sarah Palin.
Seems like former Republicans are now trying to throw elections to a
"conservative party", which should be called the Teabagger Party.
They're the ones fixated on Palin and other extreme-right loons.
Similar to the way some Democrats have been fixated on bipartisanship at
any cost. Republicans keep veering to the extreme right, so that in a
few years we could have a big Democratic Party with really moderate ex-
republicans (not fake moderates), and the moderate old democrats (not
Blue Dogs), and a Teabagger Party and a Progressive Party. And I think a
Progressive Party would have a bigger and just as committed base as the
far right, with the advantage of advocating policies that help most
Americans.
And Teabaggers will always be losers.
--
NRACLAPTRAP
She got thrown into the deep end before she'd had a swimming lesson.
She lacked the years of coaching and polish the veterans display.
I found it refreshing, as did most Republicans and conservatives.
But it's pretty obvious she's smart, aggressive, honest, and she is a
leader. Try to find more than two of those in most any other politician.
Poke fun at her all you want, she has the class to take it, as she
has, with good humour.
Palin will not disappear. Underestimate her at your own risk.
LOL You don't really believe that crap, do you?
Have you read a newspaper lately? checked your pulse?
> Republicans keep veering to the extreme right, so that in a
> few years we could have a big Democratic Party with really moderate ex-
> republicans (not fake moderates), and the moderate old democrats (not
> Blue Dogs), and a Teabagger Party and a Progressive Party. And I think a
> Progressive Party would have a bigger and just as committed base as the
> far right, with the advantage of advocating policies that help most
> Americans.
You keep thinking that, as long as it suits your little world.
>
> She got thrown into the deep end before she'd had a swimming lesson.
> She lacked the years of coaching and polish the veterans display.
> I found it refreshing, as did most Republicans and conservatives.
> But it's pretty obvious she's smart, aggressive, honest, and she is a
> leader. Try to find more than two of those in most any other politician.
> Poke fun at her all you want, she has the class to take it, as she
> has, with good humour.
> Palin will not disappear. Underestimate her at your own risk.
Dittos
--
Regards,
Steve Saling
aka The Garlic Dude �
Gilroy, CA
The Garlic Capital of The World
>
>"RBnDFW" <burkh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:hd1emi$pai$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Cliff wrote:
>>> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/shortstack/2009/11/going_rouge_--_the_sarah_palin.html
>>> "'Going Rouge': The Sarah Palin coloring book"
>>>
>>> "Going Rouge: Sarah Palin - An American Nightmare"
>>>
>>> "He called the response to date "phenomenal," especially among
>>> bookstores in
>>> Alaska."
>>
>> Cliffy, you seem to be fixated on Sarah Palin.
>> I suspect you secretly lust after her, but have nothing to party with -
>> neither brains nor balls. Ms. Palin seems to have you beat on both.
>
>You can't do really good satire on anyone who doesn't set themselves up to a
>large degree. Rarely have we had someone running for high office, at least
>since Hubert Humphrey, who can be so easily satirized just by using his or
>her own words with a slight shift in context or perspective (seeing Russia
>from Alaska; seeing Russia from her house).
Remember Goldwater?
"John Goldfarb, Please Come Home"
(Jerry Orbach [RIP] in supporting role)
>If she hadn't said so many buffoonish things in her early interviews, there
>would be no material to work with.
And she keeps adding little gems !!!
>But those things made everything else she
>said a potential joke. They were the setup -- and she did it all to herself.
>Anyone who enjoys political satire has a hard time resisting poking her with
>her own branding iron.
Wingers !!
<G>
--
Cliff
>Not to nit-pick, but the dumb bastard cant spell either. Sarah has him
>tripping over his tongue, and he is too stupid to be embarrassed.
>
>rouge
>[roozh]
>-noun 1.any of various red cosmetics for coloring the cheeks or lips.
>2.a reddish powder, chiefly ferric oxide, used for polishing metal, glass,
>etc.
<Snicker>
Talk about the clueless leading the blind !!!
>3.Canadian football.
>
>-verb (used with object) 4.to color with rouge.
>
>-verb (used without object) 5.to use rouge.
>
>Origin:
>1475-85; < F: red < L rubeus; akin to red 1
>
>
Wingers are so dumb they are a hoot !!
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--
Cliff
I think you've projected your wishes onto her. She'll be a serious
noisemaker, but I think she'll wind up being nothing but trouble for
Republicans -- those who want to get elected, that is.
--
Ed Huntress
Perhaps after her divorce she can marry Joe the "plumber".
--
Cliff
> nraclaptrap wrote:
>> RBnDFW <burkh...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:hd1emi$pai$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> Cliff wrote:
>>>> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/shortstack/2009/11/going_rouge_--_t
>>>> he _sarah_palin.html
>>>> "'Going Rouge': The Sarah Palin coloring book"
>>>>
>>>> "Going Rouge: Sarah Palin - An American Nightmare"
>>>>
>>>> "He called the response to date "phenomenal," especially among
>>>> bookstores in
>>>> Alaska."
>>> Cliffy, you seem to be fixated on Sarah Palin.
>>
>> Seems like former Republicans are now trying to throw elections to a
>> "conservative party", which should be called the Teabagger Party.
>> They're the ones fixated on Palin and other extreme-right loons.
>>
>> Similar to the way some Democrats have been fixated on bipartisanship
>> at any cost.
>
> LOL You don't really believe that crap, do you?
You mean the Democratic Party? We'll see. As for Goppers they'll
splinter into several extremities of rightwing loonacy, none of which
will exist in 10 years. I assume you'll be absorbed by tv evangelist
networks.
>> Republicans keep veering to the extreme right, so that in a
>> few years we could have a big Democratic Party with really moderate
>> ex- republicans (not fake moderates), and the moderate old democrats
>> (not Blue Dogs), and a Teabagger Party and a Progressive Party. And
>> I think a Progressive Party would have a bigger and just as committed
>> base as the far right, with the advantage of advocating policies that
>> help most Americans.
>
> You keep thinking that, as long as it suits your little world.
See District 23, New York...
Point proven.
--
NRACLAPTRAP
"Dennis M" <denn...@dennism3.invalid> wrote in message
news:dennism3-ya0240800...@news.datemas.de...
> In article <hd23vs$1hp$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, RBnDFW
> <burkh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>She lacked the years of coaching and polish the veterans display.
>>I found it refreshing, as did most Republicans and conservatives.
>
> I can believe that, after you foisted an inarticulate boob like Dumbya
> Bush
> on the world.
>On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:36:14 -0500, Cliff
><Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>Anything to take the eyes off ObamaCare, huh Cliff.
Buying the colouring book?
--
Cliff
Sarah Palin is very limited in the positive influence she can effect in any
campaign for national office.
Her range varies between zero and minus something and that minus something
could be enough to cause her candidate to loose.
Politics and elections are being driven by fear and rage.
My mother, and the mother of one of this countries top political operators
both lived through the "Great Depression".
In a casual conversation, I asked my mom what the difference was between
peoples feelings then and now.
My friend had asked the same of her mom.
Both said nearly the exact same thing.
In the 30's, most of America had no direct experience with the achievement
of the "American Dream".
Everyone was poor, by today's standards and the didn't really have to give
up much of anything. They were worried about their next meal.
Today, the vast majority of Americans are not only familiar with the
"American Dream", they have been living one form or another of it. The
consequence is that they are loosing something. They are actually loosing a
great deal and this is all going on in the face of the fact that they are
afflicted for without having done any wrong.
Elected officials and business leaders no longer enjoy the benefit of the
good will of the American public at large.
54 Percent of the adult population of America is working. The number has
NEVER before been this low.
Nationwide, the broadest measure of unemployment stands at 17.5 percent.
It's as high as 35 percent in some areas.
In round numbers, that's 30 million unemployed, a number as large as the
entire 1930's work force if you are only concerned about magnitude.
A year in politics is a long long time. For Sarah Palin, her entire career
on the national stage might not be as long as twelve months.
Sarah Palin or no, absent any tangible improvement in the employment
picture, 2012 is going to be a very bad year for nearly any incumbent
regardless their party affiliation.
The British are breaking up their "Too Big To Fail" institutions. America is
watching but when the ass doesn't fall off of the UK's economy, and it
won't, Tim Geithner will either step up to the plate and quit coddling his
buddies or he'll be fired and replaced with someone who will. The American
Congress will either get serious about reforming financial and banking laws
and regulations or they will be out on their collective asses as well.
That's my read on all of this anyway.
--
John R. Carroll
It's 'way too early to tell what effect she'll have, but her personal poll
numbers are running pretty low. Even the people who like her personally
don't seem to think of her as material suitable for high office. That's a
relief.
It looks like her effect varies enormously by region. We're starting to get
some feedback from NY23 now, and a high percentage of people who voted
Democrat -- I forget the number but it was in the 30- or 40-percent range,
voted for the Dem because they resented the outsiders throwing their weight
around in their district.
That doesn't surprise me. Except where she's very popular, she'll have to
watch out for looking like she's getting involved where she doesn't belong.
That's one message that the teabaggers are taking from that New York race.
Of course, in a place like NJ, for her to get involved would be to put a
satanic spell on the conservatives. I think she'll need a large majority of
conservatives in a district to have any positive effect.
Well, I still think it's too early to tell. It will depend on the issues at
the time. If unemployment hasn't improved by the 2010 election (though I
suspect it will), her brand of populism may have some legs.
Populist anger and resentment in US elections can morph into a very nutty
thing, as we've learned over the past 150 years or so.
>
> Sarah Palin or no, absent any tangible improvement in the employment
> picture, 2012 is going to be a very bad year for nearly any incumbent
> regardless their party affiliation.
True enough. It will be a bloodbath for incumbants, like the Congressional
elections of 1974. Republicans lost 48 seats in that election.
>
> The British are breaking up their "Too Big To Fail" institutions. America
> is
> watching but when the ass doesn't fall off of the UK's economy, and it
> won't, Tim Geithner will either step up to the plate and quit coddling his
> buddies or he'll be fired and replaced with someone who will. The American
> Congress will either get serious about reforming financial and banking
> laws
> and regulations or they will be out on their collective asses as well.
>
> That's my read on all of this anyway.
The last points sound about right to me.
--
Ed Huntress
She's a curiosity Ed, and one with a modest following.
She'll be useful as a fundraising tool for a while but so was Fannie Foxx.
The pattern Sarah Palin has established is that of a flash in the plan.
About the only high office she's electable to is the US Senate and from
Alaska.
That would be a job that suites her perfectly. She'd have her megaphone and
the pace doesn't require much real activity, intellectual horsepower of
concentration.
I think there are two reasons she quit as Alaska's Governor. First, she
didn't really like the job and was bored with it and second, she wanted to
make some money without having to work hard for it. She's the same sort of
"spurter" or sprinter people like Gunner are.
They are, in fact, very much alike. Take away the T&A and good will of
powerful men that have excercised themselves on Sarah's behalf to be near
her, and you have the same failed existence.
>> Sarah Palin or no, absent any tangible improvement in the employment
>> picture, 2012 is going to be a very bad year for nearly any incumbent
>> regardless their party affiliation.
>
> True enough. It will be a bloodbath for incumbants, like the
> Congressional elections of 1974. Republicans lost 48 seats in that
> election.
Or the sweep that brought not just FDR into office, but Lyndon Johnson to
Congress.
That election cycle provides better insight. 1974 was a referendum on
Richard Nixon and the Nam.
What Obama does in the second half of his first term will tell the tale on
his chances for a second.
He's increasingly looking like just another unprincipled politician. He's a
better man that GW Bush, but he's failed to follow through on several of the
critical issues he campaigned on.
Gen. Casey's performance on MTP yesterday was nothing short of appalling.
His entire presence reminded me of Tommy Franks, a real asshole and an
incompetent boob. I'd relieve Casey in a heart beat.
Same with McChrystal. He's the wrong guy to be commanding theater operations
in Afghanistan.
He's gotten himself one pay grade to far. The Peter Principle is in full
force.
>
>>
>> The British are breaking up their "Too Big To Fail" institutions.
>> America is
>> watching but when the ass doesn't fall off of the UK's economy, and
>> it won't, Tim Geithner will either step up to the plate and quit
>> coddling his buddies or he'll be fired and replaced with someone who
>> will. The American Congress will either get serious about reforming
>> financial and banking laws
>> and regulations or they will be out on their collective asses as
>> well.
>>
>> That's my read on all of this anyway.
>
> The last points sound about right to me.
Well, there is one other important consideration. More than one but one
that's worth considering in this context.
The American consumer lacks the wherewithal to drive a robust economic
recovery. 2010 is either going to see a trillion and a half dollar
infrastructure and energy spending bill out of Congress or we appear doomed
to a double dipper and the hardships associated.
We are already seeing terrible erosion in wages if you look at the right set
of numbers. Prices have held up well enough but that will soon change absent
a reversal of fortunes on the earnings front.
--
John R. Carroll
>What Obama does in the second half of his first term will tell the tale on
>his chances for a second.
>He's increasingly looking like just another unprincipled politician. He's a
>better man that GW Bush, but he's failed to follow through on several of the
>critical issues he campaigned on.
Would now with health care on the plate be a good time
to start other initiatives?
Congress might be a bit busy too?
But it would be a good time to get the plans for proposals in order
IF they can be kept from Rush & Faux for the moment.
--
Cliff
>>> The British are breaking up their "Too Big To Fail" institutions.
>>> America is
>>> watching but when the ass doesn't fall off of the UK's economy, and
>>> it won't, Tim Geithner will either step up to the plate and quit
>>> coddling his buddies or he'll be fired and replaced with someone who
>>> will. The American Congress will either get serious about reforming
>>> financial and banking laws
>>> and regulations or they will be out on their collective asses as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> That's my read on all of this anyway.
>>
>> The last points sound about right to me.
>
>Well, there is one other important consideration. More than one but one
>that's worth considering in this context.
>The American consumer lacks the wherewithal to drive a robust economic
>recovery. 2010 is either going to see a trillion and a half dollar
>infrastructure and energy spending bill out of Congress or we appear doomed
>to a double dipper and the hardships associated.
>We are already seeing terrible erosion in wages if you look at the right set
>of numbers. Prices have held up well enough but that will soon change absent
>a reversal of fortunes on the earnings front.
We need US manufacturing revitalized with low fossil fuel usage
and a crash fusion project.
We need to later be exporting fairly cheap energy or energy supplies
worldwide.
IIRC I heard that Obama had some plans for manufacturing but ... don't
recall details.
--
Cliff