LOL
And it's not even published yet !!!
--
Cliff
It is due to a price war between Wal-Mart and Amazon, NOT because of
lack of interest. From your OWN referenced article:
"But there may be more to the story: over the past week or so, Amazon
has been steadily dropping the price of Palin�s book to compete with
other retailers, including Wal-Mart, which offered it for presale at $10."
"With just under a month to go before it�s released to the masses, Sarah
Palin�s upcoming autobiography, Going Rogue, has already been near the
top of Amazon�s bestseller list for weeks."
Sorry, my friend, you've been taken, hook, line, and sinker by the
Newsweek propaganda machine.
He's a willing victim and a denier at the same time. He goes by
"Cliff" most of the time.
>
> http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/10/23/sarah-palin-bo
> ok-cheap-amazon.aspx
>
> LOL
> And it's not even published yet !!!
How good is your book doing?
--
"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to
tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But
being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and
would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I
feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"
Maybe you should mention that books not released by John Grisham,
Stephen King, Michael Crichton and Dean Koontz are offered at discount
prices by Amazon.com and they are proven bestselling authors.
Stephen King's new book lists for $35.00 and at Amazon it is going for
$9.00 and its release date is 11-10-2009.
~~~~~~
Question: Why do flies fly over Liberals heads?
Answer: They have crap for brains.
>
> http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/10/23/sarah-palin-
book-cheap-amazon.aspx
>
> LOL
> And it's not even published yet !!!
Another Liberal with no clue about business. Could it be a coincidence?
"Also called clearance sale. the disposal of merchandise at reduced prices
to make room for new goods: He bought the coat for half price at a clearance."
Since they have no inventory of this book yet, this is not a clearance. It
is a pre-release sale because if they get paid before they even have to order
them, they risk nothing. You people are all idiots, and Newsweek knows it.
They could tell you absolutely anything and you would swallow it up like the
dumb suckers you are.
--
So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
thing working out for you so far?
Yet another clueless Republican't--with no idea about how
business really runs. That is no coincidence.
Since they have no inventory of the book, there is no reason
to put it on pre-release sale. Anybody with a brain will
cancel their "pre-buy" at the old high price and re-buy at
the new, low price--which means all sellers lose that nice
fat juicy profit. The only time they do that is when there
are too many books overhanging the market--which means there
are too many of that loser book. And the only way to dump a
loser is at a low price (selling to rock-bottom-price
customers and dumping the rest to remainder re-sellers).
So, let's see.....
The book isn't even out yet, but it is already massively
discounted (below cost?--per IDB) in order to move it (i.e.,
before any profitable sales have concluded--because there
are no books to ship [yet]). So, they sell it below
cost--and make it up in volume? Nope. Reaganomics
failed--and so did Bushonomics. Palinomics obviously doesn't
work either.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/target-joins-walmart-vs-a_n_326435.html
The article states resellers pay about 50% of retail for a
book. Which means they are selling it below cost--and they
are including shipping as well (further increasing losses).
> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>>Cliff <Clhuprich> wrote:
>>
>>> http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/10/23/sarah-palin-
>>> book-cheap-amazon.aspx
>>>
>>> LOL
>>> And it's not even published yet !!!
>>
>> Another Liberal with no clue about business. Could it be a coincidence?
>>
>> "Also called clearance sale. the disposal of merchandise at reduced
prices
>>to make room for new goods: He bought the coat for half price at a
clearance."
>>
>>
>> Since they have no inventory of this book yet, this is not a clearance.
It
>>is a pre-release sale because if they get paid before they even have to
order
>>them, they risk nothing. You people are all idiots, and Newsweek knows it.
>>They could tell you absolutely anything and you would swallow it up like the
>>dumb suckers you are.
>
> Yet another clueless Republican't--with no idea about how
> business really runs. That is no coincidence.
Another simpering prick with no imagination.
> Since they have no inventory of the book, there is no reason
> to put it on pre-release sale. Anybody with a brain will
> cancel their "pre-buy" at the old high price and re-buy at
> the new, low price--which means all sellers lose that nice
> fat juicy profit. The only time they do that is when there
> are too many books overhanging the market--which means there
> are too many of that loser book.
There aren't ANY of that book yet. It hasn't been released. And what part
of "best seller" eludes you?
> And the only way to dump a
> loser is at a low price (selling to rock-bottom-price
> customers and dumping the rest to remainder re-sellers).
>
> So, let's see.....
>
> The book isn't even out yet, but it is already massively
> discounted (below cost?--per IDB)
What is Amazon's cost per unit?
> in order to move it (i.e.,
> before any profitable sales have concluded--because there
> are no books to ship [yet]). So, they sell it below
> cost--and make it up in volume? Nope. Reaganomics
> failed--and so did Bushonomics. Palinomics obviously doesn't
> work either.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/target-joins-walmart-vs-a_n_
326435.html
Oh, people, when are you going to stop listening to Arriana? Haven't you
figured out that The Huffington Post is the World Net Daily of the Left?
Except that the Post lies.
"All three sellers are almost certainly taking a loss on the sales of
these books in order to bring in customers."
"Almost certainly" - translation: We don't know how much they're paying
per unit.
> The article states resellers pay about 50% of retail for a
> book.
No, it doesn't say that. It says "usually pay" a little over half. A best
seller in pre-release is not 'usually'.
"Wal-Mart has said that the steep book discounts won't be available in
stores."
Which means, quite simply, once the books are in inventory, you'll pay
more for one.
> Which means they are selling it below cost--and they
> are including shipping as well (further increasing losses).
That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. They lower the price to sell
still more of a best seller so they can lose even more money when they place
their order?
You and Huffington are both idiots.
Explain why books not yet released by Stephen King, Michael Crichton
and Dean Koontz are discounted. Are those authors losers?
Your answer will determine if you know what you're talking about or
not.
~~~~~~
Question: Why can�t Liberals find facts?
Answer: They aren�t looking for any.
Hasn't he already revealed that he does not?
EVERYbody is a book biz expert around here.
ROOTING for sarah and carefully examining all the polls and the heh
heh ny times bestseller lists.
who the hell cares anyway.
any TRUE consoivative would wait until the lib-rary got the thing.
but, NOOOO...
alder and his compadres are chafing at the bit.
they'll probably be buying five copies for their mothers.
or down at the mall handing out free kool-aid to anyone with a new
copy of the book (and of course a receipt...you can't always trust the
masses).
But does it have pictures? I want pictures.
Just plop out Palin on a bearskin to show
bare skin and you'll have a best seller.
Cheaper than a closet full of designer dresses................Trig
As are 9 other best sellers. walmart.com announced it would
market 10 hardback best sellers for $10. amazon.com announced
that it would match walmart.com's prices, then both announced
10 best selllers for $9. When target.com announced it would
meet those prices, walmart.com and amazon.com announced
$8.99.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hMLKb_UwAV3znuh2GO1UHwqgTPcgD9BEEBS01
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/10/23/are-amazon-wal-mart-and-target-pricing-like-predators/
The original poster chose not to mention that the list also
includes the current works of John Grsham, Dean Koontz,
James Patterson, and Stephen King.
rw
I would assume that the only people who worship Palin are illiterates
and mouth breathers so her book will only sell as a curiosity item.
I saw one of Obama's books at a Dollar tree store the other day for a
buck.
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
Seems like they pre-ordered inventory & it's a disaster.
With Palin what did they expect?
--
Cliff
They expect leftwingers to lie about it and not understand commerce.
And sure enough...
They make up for their losses per book with volume, right?
--
Cliff
> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:22:13 -0500, Jim Alder
> <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hasn't he already revealed that he does not?
>
> Since you know what you're "talking about"----define
> this:
>
>> ======================================================================
>
>
> "Bugman" <jmpo...@hotmail.com> wrote trutfully, smacking ALDERLOON:
>
>
>> That's because you are a complete idiot Alder.
>
> (AlderLoon Replied, spluttering and crying:)
>
> Fuck you very much.
>
>> It's elitest to have some decent food? No wonder you're known as Alderloon.
>
> I'm known as Alderloon because fuckface assholes like you are too goddamn
> stupid to think for yourselves and do anything but behave like punkass
> children. Kiss my ass.
Your the blind sheep spoutin the talkin points o friend of BO.
Self enslavement may be your goal but, its not ours!
What are they paying per unit?
_"They" expect leftwingers to lie about it and not understaND
commerce.
and shore enough...__ alder
Symptoms of Paranoia
http://www.depression-guide.com/paranoia.htm
The main symptom is permanent delusion. It should be kept in mind that
there is delusion in schizophrenia also but in that case it is not
permanent or organized. In paranoia the symptoms of delusion appear
gradually, and the patient is sentimental, suspicious, irritable,
introverted, depressed, obstinate, jealous, selfish, unsocial and
bitter. Hence his social and family adjustment is not desirable, and
while he has the highest desirable, the effort that he is prepared to
expend is correspondingly little. Here the person does not acknowledge
his own failures or faults, and by sometimes accepting certain
qualities as belonging to himself, even when imaginary, he develops
paranoia.
The "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders", fourth
edition (DSM-IV), the US manual of the mental health professional;
lists the following symptoms for paranoid personality disorder:
preoccupied with unsupported doubts about friends or associates
suspicious; unfounded suspicions; believes others are plotting against
him/her
perceives attacks on his/her reputation that are not clear to others,
and is quick to counterattack
maintains unfounded suspicions regarding the fidelity of a spouse or
significant other
reads negative meanings into innocuous remarks
reluctant to confide in others due to a fear that information may be
used against him/her
Kinds of paranoia
Persecutory paranoia - This is the most prevalent type of paranoia,
and in this patient makes himself believe that all those around him
are his enemies, bent on harming him or even taking his life. In this
delusion people of an aggressive temperament often turns dangerous
killers.
Delusion of Grandeur - In this patient believes himself to be, a great
individual, and according to Bleuler, this delusion of grandeur
accompanies a persecutory delusion.
Religious paranoia - Here the patients suffer from a permanent
delusion of a primarily religious nature. He for example believes,
that he is the messenger of God who has been sent to the world to
propagate some religion.
Reformatory paranoia - In this the patient turns to considering
himself a great reformer. He accordingly looks upon all those around
him. As suffering from dangerous disease, and believes that he is
their reformer and curator.
Erotic paranoia - Here the patient often tends to believe that some
members of the family of the opposite sex, belonging to an illustrious
family, want to marry him. Such people even write love letters and
there by, cause much botheration to other people.
Litigious paranoia - In this kind the patient takes to feeling
meaningless cases against other people and feels that people are
linked together to bother him. Sometimes he, even tries to murder.
Hypochondrical paranoia - In this kind the patients believes that he
is suffering from all kind of ridiculous diseases, and also that some
other people are to blame for his suffering.
Cause of Paranoia
1) Homosexual fixation: According to Freud, the patient suffering from
the disease has repressed his tendency to homosexual love to such an
extent that he develops a fixation concerning it. Freud's view has
been found correct in many cases, but it does not explain each and
every case of the disease.
2) Feelings of inferiority: Here the psychologists have found that the
main cause of paranoia is a sense of inferiority that may be caused by
a variety of condition such as failure, disgust, sense of guilt.
3) Emotional complex: Certain psychologist points out emotional
complexes, and also believe that they are seen to be present in other
mental diseases as also in normal individuals.
4) Personality type: Cameron believes a certain type to be more
susceptible to this disease, a personality that has sentimentally,
jealousy, suspicion, ambition, selfishness and shyness etc. Patients
of paranoia do exhibit these peculiarities of personality but on this
basis they cannot be said to belong to definite personality.
5) Heredity: In the opinion of Fisher the main responsibility of
paranoia lies fairly and squarely upon heredity, although he does not
deny the importance of repression and emotional complexes. The causes
of paranoia are not physical because no patient exhibits any signs of
physical deformity and among the causes there are many important"
ones, such as defects of personality, sense of inferiority, repression
etc.
Treatment and Cure of Paranoia
A cure of paranoia is very difficult and it is essential that
treatment should be started immediately the disease comes to be known.
Once it grows on a person there is no curing to it. The chief method
of curing it is the following:
Psychoanalytic method - Compared to other mental diseases, this
disease does not respond immediately to psychoanalytic treatment
because, being suspicious, the patient does not cooperate with the
doctor. Even then, with due precaution, certain results can be
achieved by employing this method.
Injection of Insulin- some patients also responds to this treatment
but this cannot be said of all.
Prognosis of Paranoia
Predicting the prognosis of an individual suffering from Paranoia is
quite difficult. Paranoia generally becomes a whole life or lifelong
condition if there exists any underlying mental disorder, such as
schizophrenia or paranoid personality disorder. It certainly and
sometimes get better with some treatments or remission or with slight
changes in medication. People who have symptoms of paranoia as part of
another medical condition may also have a waxing and waning mental
course.
Sometimes it is the case that paranoia is caused by the use of a
particular drug or medication. In this case, it is possible that
discontinuing that substance may completely reverse the symptoms of
paranoia.
Facts and Tips about Paranoid personality
Paranoid personality is a disorder which is distinguished by extreme
doubt, dishonesty and unfriendliness with people.
It causes problem in personal life and close contacts.
Bad experiences in the past and fearful incidents are the root causes
of the paranoid personality.
Patient with this disorder must go through psychotherapy.
Get knowledge about this disorder and do not miss therapy sitting.
Yoga and acupuncture methods are useful to control paranoid
personality.
> - Show quoted text -
>On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:22:13 -0500, Jim Alder
><jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hasn't he already revealed that he does not?
>
>Since you know what you're "talking about"----define
>this:
>
>>======================================================================
>
>
>"Bugman" <jmpo...@hotmail.com> wrote trutfully, smacking ALDERLOON:
>
>
>> That's because you are a complete idiot Alder.
>
>(AlderLoon Replied, spluttering and crying:)
>
> Fuck you very much.
>
>> It's elitest to have some decent food? No wonder you're known as Alderloon.
>
> I'm known as Alderloon because fuckface assholes like you are too goddamn
>stupid to think for yourselves and do anything but behave like punkass
>children. Kiss my ass.
Are you having a contest with your little buddies to see who could use
the most vulgar language? I bet you think your replies are bitchin'.
You and your little buddies should go to Best Buy and check out the
newest video games because you shouldn't be where there are grownups.
You've just described every neocon/bushbot in misc.survivalism.
--
Regards, Curly
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ClifT?
Either way, the dems are paying him/her to blog/spam/troll/disrupt
misc.survivalism. Ditto TMT and Alberto Smudge.
When did Squirrelly's wife start posting to this group?
> You've just described every neocon/bushbot in misc.survivalism.
Your wife did what?
It's just a flame troll from the usual suspects.
> On Oct 25, 2:50�am, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>> Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@ expect?
>
> � �_"They" expect leftwingers to lie about it and not understaND
> commerce.
> and shore enough...__ alder
>
>
> Symptoms of Paranoia
> http://www.depression-guide.com/paranoia.htm
> The main symptom is permanent delusion. It should be kept in mind that
> there is delusion in schizophrenia also but in that case it is not
> permanent or organized. In paranoia the symptoms of delusion appear
> gradually, and the patient is sentimental, suspicious, irritable,
> introverted, depressed, obstinate, jealous, selfish, unsocial and
> bitter. Hence his social and family adjustment is not desirable, and
> while he has the highest desirable, the effort that he is prepared to
> expend is correspondingly little. Here the person does not acknowledge
> his own failures or faults, and by sometimes accepting certain
> qualities as belonging to himself, even when imaginary, he develops
> paranoia.
Premature ejaculation (PE) is a condition where a man ejaculates earlier than
he or his partner would like him to. Premature ejaculation is also known as
rapid ejaculation, rapid climax, premature climax, or early ejaculation.
You shoulda bought it and then sent it to Bill Ayers to autograph
"When did Squirrelly's wife start posting to this group?"
not feeling well, buffered?
did them lacy frillies fall down yer gammy ass and end up on the
sidewalk?
Excellent. More more.
Now if we could get Arlen Spector on
a bear skin rug buck naked we'd
be batting a 1000. Arlen and Sarah
on the rug together, no I mean on
the ticket together against Obomber
(as Sarah's speech writer calls the
current Prez). There we go we've got
the future all laid out.
I can see it from here............Trig
Given the number of ebook that are in circulation without
any gatekeeper or charge (other than criminal) the
book as a model for making profit is rather broken.
Just get the big monitor that can be turned on
end and the college boy is good to go. Piratebay
here he comes. I can hear it now. Oh, I
left the textbook in the dorm as it's too heavy to carry.
Oh I am using photocopies of the lab workbook
to keep it nice and on the shelf of the U's bookstore.
Assuming they still have one. Oh well, it
is a fair bet Palin won't be required reading.
But that is a fun idea..........Trig
Who says women don't like a large
phallic symbol. A chick in a bikini
with a semiauto. And even a guy in
background taking a smoke.
Oh wait what are they smoking?
"The price war broke out a week ago, when the largest US retailer,
Wal-Mart, cut some pre-order prices to $10. The titles include a
memoir from the former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin and a
volume of *-'short stories by Grisham'-*."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
SHORT STORIES BY GRISHAM!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
THAT TURKEY AIN'T GONNA FLY EITHER!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Clearly either too much or about what it's worth (very little).
--
Cliff
>Cliff forgot to mention that it's not only Palin's
>book.
True.
She got a famed racist to write it for her IIRC.
CAN she write?
--
Cliff
>In fact she's in rather good company on the list of discounted
>authors.
Others are older books long published I suppose ....
Can you spell anachronism?
Hers is remainderd before publication ... LOL ..
--
Cliff
> Wal-Mart, Amazon and Target are making loss leaders out of
>bestsellers
Palin is a GREAT loss leader !!!
Sort of like the head lemming ...
Palin+Cheney in 2012 !!!
--
Cliff
Its probably still there. :)
--
The movie 'Deliverance' isn't a documentary!
In other words, you don't know so all your wild ass guessing about their
losses is bullshit.
"Jim Alder" <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CAFEFA987DA1...@216.196.97.142...
> Making predictions about the future, is not something anyone should bet the
> farm on.
You never met or saw posts from Jay Stevens(AKA Jai Maharaj) have you?
> Making predictions about the future, is not something anyone should bet the
> farm on.
These people are at the same time undependable and predictable. I wouln't
bet a dime on what they might do. But they rarely surprise.
>Can you spell hot draw used as a loss leader to get them in the store?
Palin: Loss Leader.
--
Cliff
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:38:50 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Wal-Mart, Amazon and Target are making loss leaders out of
>>>bestsellers
>>
>> Palin is a GREAT loss leader !!!
>> Sort of like the head lemming ...
>
>I'm sure you are much more astute at marketing that WalMart and
>Amazon. What do those upstart amateurs know about it?
Thought the neocons & wingers were marketing Palin.
--
Cliff
So how much should she sell for?
(Many rethugs go to jail for that but .... )
--
Cliff
I'm not selling them. I (We) don't know how much they cost wholesale.
> (Many rethugs go to jail for that but .... )
If you're going to add your gibberish after'thought', you should probably
finish the sentence for those of us who don't get your hate speech.
Fuck off, Roselles, you dumb cocksucker.
From the article:
'Target says the price applies to pre-orders on Target.com of such
books as "Breathless" by Dean Koontz, "I, Alex Cross" by James
Patterson, and "Under the Dome" by Stephen King.'
The word 'pre-order' indicates something that isn't yet published.
In fact, 'Breathless' is due out on November 24th, 'I, Alex Cross' is
due out on November 16th, and 'Under the Dome' is due out on November
10th.
I carry no water for Sarah Palin, but it would be helpful if you would
check your facts before posting.
Cliff and Facts are oxymorons
Gunner
"Upon Roosevelt's death in 1945, H. L. Mencken predicted in his diary
that Roosevelt would be remembered as a great president, "maybe even
alongside Washington and Lincoln," opining that Roosevelt "had every
quality that morons esteem in their heroes.""
'Notice the word "including".'
thanks, champ.
i saw the word but i didn't make a note of it.
the point i was trying to make?
maybe it's a slow book month.
maybe there are a few losers to move.
but you got that, right?
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:02:43 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:38:50 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In fact she's in rather good company on the list of discounted
>>>>>authors.
>>>>
>>>> Others are older books long published I suppose ....
>>>> Can you spell anachronism?
>>>> Hers is remainderd before publication ... LOL ..
>>>
>>>Can you spell hot draw used as a loss leader to get them in the store?
>>
>> Palin: Loss Leader.
>
>If you are asking me what I think of Palin... She is a moron. She
>is an opportunist. If you want to be very kind she can best be
>described as trailer trash.
>
>That said, the fact is she has a following. It's growing. Her book
>will be a best seller and the marketers know that her name will draw
>people to their stores and they will make money because of her.
I don't know why anyone would pay a penny for a remaindered book whining
about the daughter's boyfriend and actually ghost-written by a racist.
Conservative family values? Like gummer's?
>The radical left Obamabots can't stand to recognize those simple
>facts. If the reaction in this thread is any indication, your heads
>are about to explode if she gets one more bit of attention. And of
>course she will.
She's funny !!
>Save yourselves the embarrassment of saying no one cares and
>predicting that she will disappear into the woodwork because,
I hope not.
>like her
>or not, she is not going away and neither are the folks that support
>her.
>
>Heck, she just might out Messiah the big ObamaGod.
Try some reason.
--
Cliff
>Who's selling her books? Wal-Mart, Amazon and Target. And the other
>book sellers are bitching that they will not be able to get top
>dollar when the book reaches the shelves. But little Cliffie knows
>more than any of those upstarts. Right?
I wrote "marketing Palin".
--
Cliff
>> So how much should she sell for?
>
> I'm not selling them. I (We) don't know how much they cost wholesale.
Selling Palin.
--
Cliff
>
> I'm not selling them. I (We) don't know how much they cost wholesale.
>
About $14 to $15 using the ~50% of retail figure (~$30).
So, let's see Republican't business math.....
Cost $14 (low side) and sell for $9 = loss of $5 per book
just on the selling price. Does not include inbound shipping
cost, which adds to cost and increases loss/book.
Then add the outbound shipping cost, so loss of about $9 per
book shipped to customer by mail ($3.99 book rate from
USPS).
And they are going to "make it up in volume"....
>
> So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
> thing working out for you so far?
Going pretty good, especially for the people of the US and
the world. So far, Palin is history--and Obama will easily
win re-election against Failin' Palin/Bachmann 2012. Now,
the only question is who will drop the next kid--momma or
one of her daughters (and if so, which daughter). Check with
your Vegas bookie to get the odds <g> !!!
Ha !
lemming-in-chief; does that mean she'll be the first to jump off the
cliff or just the one to order others to ?
Thank you for making your meaningless responses as brief as possible. Quite
a timesaver.
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:00:29 -0500, Jim Alder
> <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm not selling them. I (We) don't know how much they cost wholesale.
>>
>
> About $14 to $15 using the ~50% of retail figure (~$30).
If you look again at the article where you read that statistic, you'll see
that it says "usually" about half of retail. This is a pre-order thing, not
the 'usual.'
> So, let's see Republican't business math.....
Since you're starting from a false premise, let's not bother.
> Cost $14 (low side) and sell for $9 = loss of $5 per book
> just on the selling price. Does not include inbound shipping
> cost, which adds to cost and increases loss/book.
>
> Then add the outbound shipping cost, so loss of about $9 per
> book shipped to customer by mail ($3.99 book rate from
> USPS).
>
> And they are going to "make it up in volume"....
>>
>> So, how's that whole "hopey - changey" thing working out for you so
>> far?
>
> Going pretty good, especially for the people of the US and
> the world.
I don't think they know that, judging by Obama's approval ratings.
> So far, Palin is history--and Obama will easily
> win re-election against Failin' Palin/Bachmann 2012.
Thanks for your vision of the future, Nostra-dumbass.
> Now,
> the only question is who will drop the next kid--momma or
> one of her daughters (and if so, which daughter). Check with
> your Vegas bookie to get the odds <g> !!!
Keep an eye on the National Enquirer for your latest gossip on the subject.
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> Gerald Abrahamson <jer...@visi.com> wrote in
> news:q96je5tpqph0odfkd...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:00:29 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm not selling them. I (We) don't know how much they cost
>>> wholesale.
>>>
>>>
>> About $14 to $15 using the ~50% of retail figure (~$30).
>
> If you look again at the article where you read that statistic,
> you'll see
> that it says "usually" about half of retail. This is a pre-order thing,
> not the 'usual.'
>
>> So, let's see Republican't business math.....
>
> Since you're starting from a false premise, let's not bother.
>
>> Cost $14 (low side) and sell for $9 = loss of $5 per book just on the
>> selling price. Does not include inbound shipping cost, which adds to
>> cost and increases loss/book.
>>
>> Then add the outbound shipping cost, so loss of about $9 per book
>> shipped to customer by mail ($3.99 book rate from USPS).
>>
>> And they are going to "make it up in volume"....
>>>
>>> So, how's that whole "hopey - changey" thing working out for you so
>>> far?
>>
>> Going pretty good, especially for the people of the US and the world.
>
> I don't think they know that, judging by Obama's approval ratings.
Pretty good: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/
>> So far, Palin is history--and Obama will easily win re-election against
>> Failin' Palin/Bachmann 2012.
>
> Thanks for your vision of the future, Nostra-dumbass.
And you wonder why you're disrespected?
>> Now,
>> the only question is who will drop the next kid--momma or one of her
>> daughters (and if so, which daughter). Check with your Vegas bookie to
>> get the odds <g> !!!
>
> Keep an eye on the National Enquirer for your latest gossip on the
> subject.
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> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>> Gerald Abrahamson <jer...@visi.com> wrote:
>>> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not selling them. I (We) don't know how much they cost
>>>> wholesale.
>>>>
>>> About $14 to $15 using the ~50% of retail figure (~$30).
>>
>> If you look again at the article where you read that statistic,
>> you'll see that it says "usually" about half of retail. This is
>> a pre-order thing, not the 'usual.'
>>
>>> So, let's see Republican't business math.....
>>
>> Since you're starting from a false premise, let's not bother.
>>
>>> Cost $14 (low side) and sell for $9 = loss of $5 per book just on the
>>> selling price. Does not include inbound shipping cost, which adds to
>>> cost and increases loss/book.
>>>
>>> Then add the outbound shipping cost, so loss of about $9 per book
>>> shipped to customer by mail ($3.99 book rate from USPS).
>>>
>>> And they are going to "make it up in volume"....
>>>>
>>>> So, how's that whole "hopey - changey" thing working out for you so
>>>> far?
>>>
>>> Going pretty good, especially for the people of the US and the world.
>>
>> I don't think they know that, judging by Obama's approval ratings.
>
> Pretty good: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/
That's not an approval rating. It's a joke.
>>> So far, Palin is history--and Obama will easily win re-election against
>>> Failin' Palin/Bachmann 2012.
>>
>> Thanks for your vision of the future, Nostra-dumbass.
>
> And you wonder why you're disrespected?
By you? Not at all. I do wonder why you think I'd care. People like you
don't repect anyone or anything.
>>> Now,
>>> the only question is who will drop the next kid--momma or one of her
>>> daughters (and if so, which daughter). Check with your Vegas bookie to
>>> get the odds <g> !!!
>>
>> Keep an eye on the National Enquirer for your latest gossip on the
>> subject.
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Interesting that you ask...from the Democratic view the "hopey-
changey" thing is working great.
We won...you lost.
It doesn't get much better than that.
TMT
>You wrote the "neocons & wingers" were doing the marketing. They are
>doing the buying. Wal-Mart, Amazon and Target are doing the marketing
>and they realize they can bring in a lot of buyers with the Palin
>book.
I wrote "marketing Palin".
HTH
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>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>news:nnaie5h3bcpm9rp65...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:00:29 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> So how much should she sell for?
>>>
>>> I'm not selling them. I (We) don't know how much they cost wholesale.
>>
>> Selling Palin.
>
> Thank you for making your meaningless responses as brief as possible. Quite
>a timesaver.
Indeed.
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http://anchorage.craigslist.org/ads/1443439108.html
http://anchorage.craigslist.org/ads/1433349259.html
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Cliff
>> Pretty good: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/
>
> That's not an approval rating. It's a joke.
When was the last time a winger won one?
Who was it?
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>smo...@board.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:07:51 -0700, Winston_Smith
>><not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>>
>>>That said, the fact is she has a following. It's growing. Her book
>>>will be a best seller and the marketers know that her name will draw
>>>people to their stores and they will make money because of her.
>>
>>A "following"
>>
>>Can't be very good to be part of a following of fools
>
>I didn't characterize them one way or the other. I just pointed out
>they exist and they will be a political factor. It is foolish to
>pretend they don't exist or that they won't have an effect.
The idiot vote.
Sell them a pack of lies ... ort he same ones again ... by then
they may have forgotten .......
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>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:07:51 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_...@bogus.net> wrote:
>
>>>That said, the fact is she has a following. It's growing. Her book
>>>will be a best seller and the marketers know that her name will draw
>>>people to their stores and they will make money because of her.
>>
>> I don't know why anyone would pay a penny for a remaindered book whining
>>about the daughter's boyfriend and actually ghost-written by a racist.
>
>You can't write anything without a cliche political shot can you?
>Sadly limited in your mental facilities you seem to be.
>
>I'll type real slowly for you. I t ' s n o t a r e m a i n d e r .
>I t ' s a h o t b o o k t h a t r e t a i l e r s a r e
>f i g h t i n g o v e r.
Trying to dump at below cost as they got fooled into ordering
so many ....
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>Gerald Abrahamson <jer...@visi.com> wrote in
>news:q96je5tpqph0odfkd...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:00:29 -0500, Jim Alder
>> <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>> About $14 to $15 using the ~50% of retail figure (~$30).
>
> If you look again at the article where you read that statistic, you'll see
>that it says "usually" about half of retail. This is a pre-order thing, not
>the 'usual.'
>
So you are acknowledging the publisher is selling the books
at a loss--and making it up in volume? Or what? There is no
incentive for the publisher to sell "below cost" before it
is released--unless they know they have a loser on their
hands. Then they dump it fast at a loss now--or else take
even bigger losses later. Which loss do you choose?
>
>> So, let's see Republican't business math.....
>
> Since you're starting from a false premise, let's not bother.
>
Republican't business math is a false premise !!! Now we are
beginning to get somewhere !!
And it is publicly admitted and officially documented, too.
Now, for the really important question. Is Republican't
NC/CNC/computer/normal math any less effective (or
different) than their business math (which is a documented
"false premise")? Republican't business math does not
produce any profits. Does Republican't
NC/CNC/computer/normal math produce usable parts--or are all
parts certifiably "scrap ready" when produced?
>
>> Cost $14 (low side) and sell for $9 = loss of $5 per book
>> just on the selling price. Does not include inbound shipping
>> cost, which adds to cost and increases loss/book.
>>
>> Then add the outbound shipping cost, so loss of about $9 per
>> book shipped to customer by mail ($3.99 book rate from
>> USPS).
>>
>> And they are going to "make it up in volume"....
>
The point you have seemed to have missed is the obvious one.
Most intelligent customers (hmmmm, does that represent the
typical Walmart customer?) will not make a special trip to
Walmart just to buy the book. They will already be heading
to Walmart--so Walmart has reason to incur a loss trying to
bring in someone who is already coming to the store. Same
for Target. Amazon is different because they don't have a
bricks-and-mortar store--so their loss per book is harder to
calculate. For Amazon, it could be a legitimate loss-leader.
Because to hit the "free ship" point, customers have to
spend a minimum amount ($25? more?) and her book is only
$9--so Amazon does have the opportunity to recoup at least
part of their loss in additional sales they would not
normally make. However, neither Walmart nor Target have that
opportunity to recoup their loss because they are selling to
customers who are already coming to their store (hence, no
additional, profitable, sales made "above and beyond" what
they normally expected to make in terms of sales/profits).
I know this is hard (impossible) for you to follow because
it is real-world "how to make a business profit" logic and
math--and you have publicly posted "Republican't business
math" is a "false premise".
>> Now,
>> the only question is who will drop the next kid--momma or
>> one of her daughters (and if so, which daughter). Check with
>> your Vegas bookie to get the odds <g> !!!
>
> Keep an eye on the National Enquirer for your latest gossip on the subject.
>
We now know your secret source of insider information thanks
to your revelation. But does your bible, the National
Enquirer, give the odds--not the gossip?
Ok, so now you're a perv. So?
That would be Obama in 2009.
> Who was it?
>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>news:31ale5hfnk00jbphv...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:18:10 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cliff <Clhuprich...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
>>>news:nnaie5h3bcpm9rp65...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:00:29 -0500, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> So how much should she sell for?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not selling them. I (We) don't know how much they cost wholesale.
>>>>
>>>> Selling Palin.
>>>
>>> Thank you for making your meaningless responses as brief as possible.
>Quite
>>> a timesaver.
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>> http://anchorage.craigslist.org/ads/1443452226.html
>> http://anchorage.craigslist.org/ads/1443439108.html
>> http://anchorage.craigslist.org/ads/1433349259.html
>
> Ok, so now you're a perv. So?
Or simply a transsexual prostitute.
Gunner
> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>>Gerald Abrahamson <jer...@visi.com> wrote:
>>> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> About $14 to $15 using the ~50% of retail figure (~$30).
>>
>> If you look again at the article where you read that statistic, you'll
see
>>that it says "usually" about half of retail. This is a pre-order thing, not
>>the 'usual.'
>>
> So you are acknowledging the publisher is selling the books
> at a loss--and making it up in volume? Or what?
How can you possibly extricate that meaning from the words I typed above?
Since you seem to find verbosity a proper substitute for intellect, I guess I
will have to explain in niggling detail.
As I said, your figure of 50% is for 'usual' buying and selling by
retailers. In other words, retailers replenishing their inventory of books
already in print. Publishers need to keep books warehoused for such deals,
meaning they had to print them 'on spec'. (meaning, 'spec'ulating that someone
will buy them in the future) They don't print more books every time someone
orders a dozen or a hundred of one particular title. This warehousing
increases their cost and hence the wholesale price. Simple enough?
Now we come to "Going Rogue" which has not been released yet and won't be
for more than another couple weeks. Which means they haven't been printed yet.
Yet people are already ordering (and paying for) them and Amazon is also
ordering and paying for them. So the publisher can print and sell them without
storage or economic risk. Since it is also a best seller, they are selling as
ton of them. So they cut their profit per unit, and rake it in in volume.
Amazon uses the same strategy. Since they're paying less, they sell for less
and draw in more sales.
So if buying "Going Rogue" from the warehouse costs you $14.50 (that's the
real 50% of $28.99, not $14 or $15, which I guess is Democrat math?), what
does it cost to buy a book that hasn't been printed yet? We don't know. What
does it cost to print a book? I don't know, do you? The cost of ink and paper
and binding, mostly. Since it's all done by machine, labor per unit has to be
pretty miniscule. So what's the material cost?
I'm guessing not very much in the big picture. Why? Because the Kindle
version, which involves no materials and no shipping, also costs $9 at Amazon.
So let's say that the actual production of a book costs $7. Since the
printer/publisher has a million unit pre-order from Amazon. So if they charge
Amazon $8 for their pre-production order, they make a million without risk.
Amazon also makes a million without risk. As you said, there's no free
shipping without buying something else. Besides which, shipping is tax
deductible.
That's as clear as I can make it. If you still don't get it, go back to
school.
> There is no
> incentive for the publisher to sell "below cost" before it
> is released--unless they know they have a loser on their
> hands. Then they dump it fast at a loss now--or else take
> even bigger losses later. Which loss do you choose?
Then why print it at all? Why cut the price, which will only generate more
sales and still higher losses? They aren't 'dumping' a book they haven't
printed yet.
The rest of your post is just you pretending to not understand, much like
the previous part of your post. So I'll stop here.
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