80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
Harry Hope
http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
December 23, 2009
80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
By Steve Bennish, Staff Writer
A new poll released Wednesday, Dec. 23, by National Wildlife
Federation says the majority of Americans � more than 80 percent �
support action to limit carbon pollution and move the U.S. toward
renewable energy and the new industries and jobs it could create.
The poll also chilled hopes among climate change skeptics that
controversial e-mails sent by British scientists had any impact on
overall opinions.
The poll interviewed 1,000 nationwide either in person or by phone.
The margin of error is 3.1 percent.
It was conducted by the Benenson Strategy Group Dec. 12-15 using
random digit dialing.
The findings:
American voters show a strong desire for the U.S. to transition toward
a low-carbon economy, with strong support among independents, the
Federation said.
Eighty-two percent voters and 80 percent of independents support the
U.S. government increasing investment in clean energy sources.
67 percent of voters and 67 percent of independents support the U.S.
government limiting carbon pollution and other gases that may cause
global warming.
Most Americans believe global warming is happening, though there is a
strong partisan divide.
Among Democrats: 91 percent believe global warming is happening, 8
percent do not.
Among independents: 64 percent believe, 32 percent do not.
Among Republicans: 43 percent believe, 54 percent do not.
�The American people can�t be more clear when it comes to solving
global warming: they want the U.S. to be Rudolph out in front of the
sleigh, leading the world toward a clean energy future,� said Jeremy
Symons, senior vice president of the Federation.
�There is overwhelming public support for the Senate to pass
legislation with firm limits on carbon pollution that will stimulate
massive new investments in clean energy technologies.�
__________________________________________________
Harry
Peter Franks
> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
>
> December 23, 2009
>
> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits,
CO2 isn't pollution.
> renewable energy
Hello Gen IV Nuclear.
You on board?
Blue
> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
>
> December 23, 2009
>
> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
>
> By Steve Bennish, Staff Writer
>
>
> A new poll released Wednesday, Dec. 23, by National Wildlife
> support action to limit carbon pollution and move the U.S. toward
> renewable energy and the new industries and jobs it could create.
Guess who pays for the retooling.
Gray Ghost
> Harry Hope wrote:
> > http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
> >
> > December 23, 2009
> >
> > 80%+ Americans support pollution limits,
>
> CO2 isn't pollution.
Ah! Another right wing scientist speaks. Who was your mentor? Pinhead
Limbaugh or Pinhead NeoNazi Hannity? You Anti Science Republicans are against
energy alternatives and eliminating our oil dependence. James Inhofe and Fox
News both say that we must continue to prop up Islamic dictatorships by buying
oil from them so they can fun Al Quaeda who will then kill our soldiers and
detonate bombs in our cities in return.
It's offical republican policy. When Bush was in the White House he he
practially let the Saudi King his tight fake texas ass hole and give him a
good skull fucking to boot. That's why nobody want republicans to be in
charge anymore. They're nothing but criminals and liars who love our enemies
and hate America.
Realist
news:5ta7j51jbn36tsp3d...@4ax.com:
>
> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pol
> lution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
>
> December 23, 2009
>
> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
>
America and the West isn't the problem. The Third World is. Most of the
immigrants going to the West are from the Third World. Western populations
haven't even moved in the last 20 years. Some are in negative growth mode,
like Italy. Meanwhile, the birthrate in the Third World, some parts of
Asia and the Middle East approaches 14/1000. THAT is where the population
is growing, in the areas least able to cope with it.
Blue
> In article <7phru7...@mid.individual.net>, Blue <bl...@there.com> wrote:
>
>> Harry Hope wrote:
>>> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollutio
>>> n-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
>>>
>>> By Steve Bennish, Staff Writer
>>>
>>>
>>> A new poll released Wednesday, Dec. 23, by National Wildlife
>>> Federation says the majority of Americans � more than 80 percent �
>>> support action to limit carbon pollution and move the U.S. toward
>>> renewable energy and the new industries and jobs it could create.
>>
>> Guess who pays for the retooling.
>
>
Yeah I'm saying that everyone high up don't dip in their pockets.
Yeah the gov will do what the people want.
Yeah the energy companies and other will comply.
But none of them will be out of pocket, the public will pay and pay.
It's like you wanna buy this guff, fine, you can jolly well pay for it.
It's like some Simpsons bear patrol or super binmen.
American, unlike the English, haven't cottoned on as to who pays for it.
Yeah the greenies and student types are all into it, but it don't bother them.
All they do is stick their hand out for more pocket money.
RayLopez99
> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-p...
99% of Americans support "doing the right thing" in a recent poll.
Merry Xmas.
RL
Bill Ward
>> But none of them will be out of pocket, the public will pay and pay.
>
> The public will get paid. This is economic stimulus.
Who pays the public, and where do they get the money?
Bill Ward
> In article <65SdnZZZs8jVc67W...@giganews.com>,
> Wealth is money in motion. An economic stimulus is whatever starts the
> money moving.
So you have no answer?
BTW, that's about the looniest definition of wealth I've ever seen. No
wonder lefties can't understand an economy - you have no idea of how to
create wealth.
All you can do is take wealth others have earned, then complain because
they're pissed off at you.
*us*
>Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in news:5ta7j51jbn36tsp3d...@4ax.com:
>>
>> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
>>
>> December 23, 2009
>>
>> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
>>
>
>America and the West isn't the problem.
Sure they are. They're wasteful and consume too much.
>The Third World is...
They're the ones who'll survive when you can't once your
exploitive artificial dependency is no longer maintained.
Sid9
"Bill Ward" <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
news:65SdnZBZs8iynKnW...@giganews.com...
.
You have a simple solution fit for simpletons who know as little about
economics as Republican bush,jr.
What would bush,jr have been if he wasn't born into a wealthy family?
Would he have qualified to be a used car salesman, maybe?
VFW
well, unfortunately they will probably go extinct soon after the "first"
world burns out.
Issues are global and the acidification of the oceans and sea level
rises know no boundaries or class.
--
Hint; Enjoy the moment !
Bill Ward
That's all you got? Blame it on Bush? That's truly pathetic.
Who pays the public, and where do they get the money? Haven't you
thought it through enough to answer such a simple question?
*us*
Some people believe that the world is supposed to end in fiery carnage,
and the human race is most likely doomed by such ignorance,
but the last man standing won't be one of the most dependent.
noob
"Harry Hope" <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5ta7j51jbn36tsp3d...@4ax.com...
> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
> December 23, 2009
> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
> By Steve Bennish, Staff Writer
>
GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT!
Just like whacko climate models ...
You can get any result you want by using the right wording in your
questions.
So what exact wording was used I wonder?
I bet they won't tell.
I bet they weren't told it would cost them dearly!
I bet some sort of motherhood statement was put to them, which they couldn't
honestly say no to.
A different result would have ensued if they were told ALL THE FACTS!
Warmest Regards
Bon_0
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."
Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
*us*
>...Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
Wow, you're duped easily, denier.
"Professor Carter, whose background is in marine geology, appears to have
little, if any, standing in the Australian climate science community."
Sid9
You're right.
bush,jr wasn't alone.
There are other villains in creating this mess.
Reagan, "hate our government" for one. Spend and borrow.
Gingrich, a leader in the wreck our government team.
Grover Norquist "...the size where we can drown it (our government) in the
bathtub."
HW Bush...more irresponsible deficit spending.
....and of course the life long loser bush,jr...unfunded wars based on lies.
Who pays? We had a tax system that was functional yet unfair.
Republicans made things a lot worse for the average guy.
They threw crumbs at the working guys and millions at the wealthy.
VFW
almost every nite on TV, they show the printing pressing spewing out the
"money" remember it's "In God we Trust"
sheeple unite !
RayLopez99
> "Bill Ward" <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
>
> news:tJudneWft-Do9KnW...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:07:17 -0500, Sid9 wrote:
>
> >> "Bill Ward" <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
> >>news:65SdnZBZs8iynKnW...@giganews.com...
> >>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:08:34 -0800, My China Blue Heaven wrote:
>
Very true. But keep in mind the neo-cons 'borrow and spend'
opposition at the time was the 'tax and spend' demon-craps. Even now
people like Nancy Peloski believe in this c rap. So you were faced
with the lesser of two evils, though I did vote for Obama to send a
message to the neocons.
All the more reason to vote Libertarian and support people like Ron
Paul. Or more practically vote for paralyzed government by voting
against the incumbent.
RL
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
*, US, * wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:02:58 -0600, stealist squealest <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in news:5ta7j51jbn36tsp3d...@4ax.com:
> >>
> >> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
> >>
> >> December 23, 2009
> >>
> >> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
> >>
> >
> >America and the West isn't the problem.
>
> Sure they are. They're wasteful and consume too much.
>
By turning on computers and posting to usenet.
> >The Third World is...
>
> They're the ones who'll survive when you can't once your
> exploitive artificial dependency is no longer maintained.
>
Kook Alert.
--
Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you."
Sid9
"RayLopez99" <raylo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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We Democrats urge you to vote Libertarian every chance you can.
Last Post
> "Bill Ward" <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
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> news:tJudneWft-Do9KnW...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:07:17 -0500, Sid9 wrote:
>
> >> "Bill Ward" <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
> >>news:65SdnZBZs8iynKnW...@giganews.com...
> >>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:08:34 -0800, My China Blue Heaven wrote:
>
• Poor little Sid9
Every line above is a lie
— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural phenomena
Last Post
Bill Ward
So you think it's all Republicans' fault. OK, no surprise there. We get
it.
Now, can you answer the question, or not?
leona...@gmail.com
• ROTFLMAO
Shawn *US* Smith checks every author with
sourcewatch.org a fascist disinformation site,
before he answers any posts. Whatta fool!!!!
—— ——
There are three types of people that you
can_not_talk_into_behaving_well. The
stupid, the religious fanatic, and the evil.
1- The stupid aren't smart enough to follow the
logic of what you say. You have to tell them
what is right in very simple terms. If they do
not agree, you will never be able to change
their mind.
2- The religious fanatic: If what you say goes
against their religious belief, they will cling to
that belief even if it means their death.
3- There is no way to reform evil- not in a
million years. There is no way to convince
the anthropogenic global warming alarmists,
the terrorists, serial killers, paedophiles, and
predators to change their evil ways, They
knew what they were doing was wrong, but
knowledge didn't stop them. It only made
them more careful in how they went about
performing their evil deeds.
I M @ good guy
<bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote:
Some is going to have to come from nowhere, which
is possible now, and more responsible than the old fiscal
responsibility of tax and spend or borrow and spend.
Because so many liberal down and outers and even
some rich ones avoid taxes one way or another, a new
way to fund part of the cost of supporting the needy
has to be found, the number of needy and entitled
is growing and the number of tax payers is falling,
they have funny ideas about paying taxes.
Actually taxes were always an unequal way
to raise funding, giving people currency requires
taxing it back or else the amount in circulation
grows without bounds.
But electronic deposit can be controlled so
that the amount of money in circulation drives
a stable economy, removing the ups and downs
caused by inflation, casualty losses, made off
schemes, market booms and busts, and even
wars.
Congress will never understand the big
difference though, they are fixated on taxes
and spending, and if taxes are not enough,
borrow enough to spend.
But next year there will not be enough
money to borrow, it becomes a world problem,
leaving either create money with electronic
deposit for specific items, or watch the whole
world go down the drain.
*us*
<leona...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... fascist disinformation ...
You want the corporations to torch the planet
with impunity, don't you.
*us*
{Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>By turning on computers and posting to usenet.
You'd do better if you could read for comprehension.
Those dependent on wasteful consumption won't be
the ones who survive when that's cut off.
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:02:58 -0600, stealist squealest <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in news:5ta7j51jbn36tsp3d...@4ax.com:
>>
>> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
>>
>> December 23, 2009
>>
>> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
>>
>
>America and the West isn't the problem.
Sure they are. They're wasteful and consume too much.
>The Third World is...
Sid9
"Last Post" <last...@primus.ca> wrote in message
news:4d1a9152-7c55-48a4...@g31g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
> Every line above is a lie
>
> | In real science the burden of proof is always
> | on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
> | neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
> | iota of valid data for global warming nor have
> | they provided data that climate change is being
> | effected by commerce and industry, and not by
> | natural phenomena
.
.
.
Obviously reality is not your strong card.
*us*
<leona...@gmail.com> wrote:
>... fascist disinformation ...
You want the corporations to torch the planet
with impunity, don't you.
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:05:46 +1100, "boob" <a...@z.com> wrote:
>...Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
Wow, you're duped easily, denier.
"Professor Carter, whose background is in marine geology, appears to have
little, if any, standing in the Australian climate science community."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bob_Carter
He's a shill without any actual facts.
*us*
>In article <gh0cj510a1i493rqr...@4ax.com>, * US * wrote:
>
>> "Professor Carter, whose background is in marine geology, appears to have
>> little, if any, standing in the Australian climate science community."
>
>The theory of continental drift was proposed by a meteorologist, and then
>ignored for decades by geologists who knew better than a weatherman.
>
>Every human is allowed to do science. You can argue with this Carter on the
>facts but not his qualifications.
He has no facts. He's a shill for corporatists hoping to keep
cashing in on environmental destruction.
Here's that link, again:
liberal
> Harry Hope wrote:
> >http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-p...
>
> > December 23, 2009
>
> > 80%+ Americans support pollution limits,
>
Hmmm, water is necessary for life. Let's drop you in the middle of the
Pacific Ocean.
IOW, CO2, in low quantities is good. In the quantities we're pulling
into the atmosphere, it's a pollutant.
>
> > renewable energy
>
> Hello Gen IV Nuclear.
>
> You on board?
liberal
> In article <65SdnZZZs8jVc67WnZ2dnUVZ_uti4...@giganews.com>,
> Bill Ward <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:54:56 -0800, My China Blue Heaven wrote:
>
> > >> But none of them will be out of pocket, the public will pay and pay.
>
> > > The public will get paid. This is economic stimulus.
>
> > Who pays the public, and where do they get the money?
>
> Wealth is money in motion. An economic stimulus is whatever starts the money
> moving.
So we line up everyone in America in two rows. Give 'em all a shovel.
Everyone in one row digs a little hole. The person across pays that
person a million dollars for digging their hole. Then he fills the
hole in. The person across in row one pays him a million dollars for
filling the hole in. Everyone in row one digs a little hole.....
You see how stupid your comment is?
>
> --
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. I'm whoever you want me to be.
> Silver silverware - Where is the love? At least I can stay in character.
> Oval swimming pool - Where is the love? Annoying Usenet one post at a time.
> Damn the living - It's a lovely life. We support you, Sarah.
liberal
> "Bill Ward" <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote in message
>
> news:65SdnZBZs8iynKnW...@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:08:34 -0800, My China Blue Heaven wrote:
>
> >> Bill Ward <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:54:56 -0800, My China Blue Heaven wrote:
>
> >>> >> But none of them will be out of pocket, the public will pay and pay.
>
> >>> > The public will get paid. This is economic stimulus.
>
> >>> Who pays the public, and where do they get the money?
>
> >> Wealth is money in motion. An economic stimulus is whatever starts the
> >> money moving.
>
> > So you have no answer?
>
> > BTW, that's about the looniest definition of wealth I've ever seen. No
> > wonder lefties can't understand an economy - you have no idea of how to
> > create wealth.
>
> > All you can do is take wealth others have earned, then complain because
> > they're pissed off at you.
>
> .
> .
> You have a simple solution fit for simpletons who know as little about
> economics as Republican bush,jr.
>
> What would bush,jr have been if he wasn't born into a wealthy family?
>
> Would he have qualified to be a used car salesman, maybe?
A marijuana street dealer.
Peter Franks
> On Dec 24, 1:16 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> Harry Hope wrote:
>>> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-p...
>>> December 23, 2009
>>> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits,
>> CO2 isn't pollution.
>
>
> Hmmm, water is necessary for life. Let's drop you in the middle of the
> Pacific Ocean.
? What will that show?
> IOW, CO2, in low quantities is good. In the quantities we're pulling
> into the atmosphere, it's a pollutant.
Says whom?
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
*, US, * wrote:
>
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:56:35 +0000, asked how he advertises his idiocy, "Bill Bonde
> {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >By turning on computers and posting to usenet.
>
> You'd do better if you could read for comprehension.
>
*You* should blame yourself for the waste because you turn on your
computer to post your drivel. There's no end to the illogic you
espouse, so perhaps you are right, you should just stop using
energy.
> Those dependent on wasteful consumption won't be
> the ones who survive when that's cut off.
>
What is that supposed to mean?
> >
> >America and the West isn't the problem.
>
> Sure they are. They're wasteful and consume too much.
>
The people in the 3rd world want their own computers so they can
gas on on usenet too.
> >The Third World is...
>
> They're the ones who'll survive when you can't once your
> exploitive artificial dependency is no longer maintained.
>
Kook Alert. BTW, not to respond after a "Kook Alert", but have you
taken a look an an aerial photo of Haiti?
leona...@gmail.com
> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-p...
>
> December 23, 2009
>
>
>
> A new poll released Wednesday, Dec. 23, by National Wildlife
> Federation says the majority of Americans — more than 80 percent —
• He who pays the piper calls the tune. Would you
expect WWF to admit that "natural forces" are
fully responsible for our climate. quay sera sera!
WWF was one of the funders of the CRU/Oman
cabal.
> support action to limit carbon pollution
• Carbon (CO2) is a fertilizer not a polluter and
essential to all growing things on the planet
>and move the U.S. toward
> renewable energy
• The only truly renewable energy comes from
crude oil and natural gas
> and the new industries and jobs it could create.
• There will be no new industries and fewer jobs
> The poll also chilled hopes among climate change skeptics that
> controversial e-mails sent by British scientists had any impact on
> overall opinions.
• ROTFLMAO- Since the MSM failed to explain the
issues and basically the plebs have no idea of the
emails and what they say
> The poll interviewed 1,000 nationwide either in person or by phone.
> The margin of error is 3.1 percent.
>
> It was conducted by the Benenson Strategy Group Dec. 12-15 using
> random digit dialing.
I M @ good guy
<liber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 24, 6:08 pm, My China Blue Heaven <chine.b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In article <65SdnZZZs8jVc67WnZ2dnUVZ_uti4...@giganews.com>,
>> Bill Ward <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:54:56 -0800, My China Blue Heaven wrote:
>>
>> > >> But none of them will be out of pocket, the public will pay and pay.
>>
>> > > The public will get paid. This is economic stimulus.
>>
>> > Who pays the public, and where do they get the money?
>>
>> Wealth is money in motion. An economic stimulus is whatever starts the money
>> moving.
>
>So we line up everyone in America in two rows. Give 'em all a shovel.
>
>Everyone in one row digs a little hole. The person across pays that
>person a million dollars for digging their hole. Then he fills the
>hole in. The person across in row one pays him a million dollars for
>filling the hole in. Everyone in row one digs a little hole.....
>
>You see how stupid your comment is?
I have written at least a dozen articles on how
computer money can be used to jump-start the
economy yet have not seen any criticism or any
agreement on the possibility.
Everybody remembers hyper-inflation events
but fail to realize the difference between currency
and computer money.
And it is tragic that a number of countries
have debt piling up to more than their annual GNP,
and don't have the brains to do something besides
tax and spend and/or borrow and spend.
*us*
>In article <dubcj5lfo95mv1f15...@4ax.com>, * US * wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 05:24:59 -0800, My China Blue Heaven
>> <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <gh0cj510a1i493rqr...@4ax.com>, * US * wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Professor Carter, whose background is in marine geology, appears to have
>> >> little, if any, standing in the Australian climate science community."
>> >
>> >The theory of continental drift was proposed by a meteorologist, and then
>> >ignored for decades by geologists who knew better than a weatherman.
>> >
>> >Every human is allowed to do science. You can argue with this Carter on the
>> >facts but not his qualifications.
>>
>> He has no facts. He's a shill for corporatists hoping to keep
>
>Having no facts is a valid argument against him. His formal training is not.
His lack of facts should have deterred him from shilling for the destructive.
*us*
furiously)" <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>... drivel....
It's all you have, isn't it.
>The people in the 3rd world want their own computers so they can
>gas on on usenet too.
Give them yours. They'll do much better with it.
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:56:35 +0000, asked how he advertises his idiocy, "Bill Bonde
{Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>By turning on computers and posting to usenet.
You'd do better if you could read for comprehension.
Those dependent on wasteful consumption won't be
the ones who survive when that's cut off.
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:02:58 -0600, stealist squealest <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in news:5ta7j51jbn36tsp3d...@4ax.com:
>>
>> http://www.daytondailynews.com/ohio-recreation/80-americans-support-pollution-limits-renewable-energy-462531.html
>>
>> December 23, 2009
>>
>> 80%+ Americans support pollution limits, renewable energy
>>
>
>America and the West isn't the problem.
Sure they are. They're wasteful and consume too much.
>The Third World is...
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
*, US, * wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:39:27 +0000, "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep
> furiously)" <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >... drivel....
>
> It's all you have, isn't it.
>
> >The people in the 3rd world want their own computers so they can
> >gas on on usenet too.
>
> Give them yours. They'll do much better with it.
>
That won't save any electrical power, which is my point. Perhaps
they should have yours.
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:56:35 +0000, asked how he advertises his idiocy, "Bill Bonde
> {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >By turning on computers and posting to usenet.
>
> You'd do better if you could read for comprehension.
>
> Those dependent on wasteful consumption won't be
> the ones who survive when that's cut off.
>
What are you talking about now?
*us*
furiously)" <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>That won't save any electrical power ...
They already use a lot less anyway, otherwise.
You're part of the 5% of the world's population
using 25% of the world's energy production, and
you don't accomplish anything of value with that.
"As long as your computer goes into sleep/standby when you're not using it, your computer
doesn't use squat for electricity, compared to the rest of your household. You'll save a
lot more energy by addressing your heating, cooling, and lighting use rather than
obsessing over your computer. For most people, their computers' energy use is not a
significant portion of their total use, even if they use their computers a lot. Of course,
you should absolutely make sure your computer is set to sleep automatically when you're
not using it, because it's silly to waste energy, but your computer likely isn't even
close to being the biggest energy-waster in your home."
http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/computers.html
So let your computer sleep, Bonde. It'll save usenet from pollution, too.
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 21:39:27 +0000, "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep
furiously)" <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>... drivel....
It's all you have, isn't it.
>The people in the 3rd world want their own computers so they can
>gas on on usenet too.
Give them yours. They'll do much better with it.
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 23:56:35 +0000, asked how he advertises his idiocy, "Bill Bonde
{Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)" <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>By turning on computers and posting to usenet.
You'd do better if you could read for comprehension.
Those dependent on wasteful consumption won't be
the ones who survive when that's cut off.
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:02:58 -0600, stealist squealest <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I M @ good guy
When does your crystal ball say you will fry?
*us*
>...crystal ball...
I prefer data. Had you heard of it?
>say you will fry...
You must be one of those Christians who
want the world to end in a fireball.