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Re: No, the news media did not lose the Vietnam war

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purple

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Jul 1, 2023, 4:56:04 PM7/1/23
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Lou Bricano <l...@cap.con> wrote in news:OvZnM.7479$PbF4...@fx07.iad:

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/did-the-news-media-led-by-walte
> r-cronkite-lose-the-war-in-vietnam/2018/05/25/a5b3e098-495e-11e8-827e-1
> 90efaf1f1ee_story.html
>
> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/07/09/seeing-it-now
>
>
> And no, LBJ did not say, "If I’ve lost Cronkite, I’ve lost middle
> America."

"Lyndon Baines Johnson 1963... "These Negroes, they're getting pretty
uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something
now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness.
Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little
something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a
difference... I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two
hundred years"."

> The reason the Tet offensive began to shift American public opinion on
> the war is that it wasn't supposed to happen at all. If America had
> been winning the war the way the administration *and* our military
> leadership had been lying to us, the Tet offensive *could not have
> happened.* The war was, as Cronkite — who had gone to Vietnam to
> see for himself — effectively at a stalemate.

Thanks to traitors like John Kerry who eventually got kicked out like
cocaine abuser Hunter Biden did.

David Hartung

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Jul 1, 2023, 5:18:23 PM7/1/23
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I am no friend of John Kerry, but I am not aware that he was kicked out
of the Navy.

Siri Cruise

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Jul 1, 2023, 6:07:11 PM7/1/23
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purple wrote:
> Thanks to traitors like John Kerry who eventually got kicked out like
> cocaine abuser

He was also in the texas air national guard?

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Fonda

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Jul 1, 2023, 7:35:02 PM7/1/23
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David Hartung <ju...@nogood.com> wrote in
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They kicked him so hard that he had to apply to get copies of the medals
he cheated to get.

Lou Bricano

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Jul 1, 2023, 9:39:03 PM7/1/23
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Kerry was honorably discharged.

Carol Kinsey Goman

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Jul 1, 2023, 11:34:23 PM7/1/23
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Lou Bricano <l...@cap.con> wrote in news:Vy4oM.3019$hfh...@fx40.iad:
Let's see his DD-214.

A commissioned officer may be involuntarily separated if found to be
substandard in the following ways: performance of duty, efficiency,
leadership, response to training, attitude or character, maintenance of
satisfactory progress while in a skills-awarding program, or acts of
professional or moral misconduct.

They can also be separated for disgrace. John Kerry is an immoral
dishonest and disgraceful puke.

Governor Swill

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Jul 2, 2023, 12:36:19 AM7/2/23
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On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 03:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Carol Kinsey Goman <rudy...@this.sock> wrote:

>They can also be separated for disgrace. John Kerry is an immoral
>dishonest and disgraceful puke.

Not according to the Navy.

Swill
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xdmod2

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Jul 2, 2023, 1:48:36 AM7/2/23
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"Governor Swill" <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 03:34:22 -0000 (UTC), Carol Kinsey Goman
> <rudy...@this.sock> wrote:
>
>>They can also be separated for disgrace. John Kerry is an immoral
>>dishonest and disgraceful puke.

Well, let's talk about John shall we? Now I don't know or care what the U.S.
Navy says about him or
anybody else. What I do care about is their character. Sooooo, Johnny made a
big deal over the years
pouting and preening about the Iraq war being illegal and based on lies, but
when some low level Frog
reporter called him out on the hypocrisy of that and the U.S. position of
Ukraine Russia, he changed his
tune. So can we say that was disgraceful and dishonest? Not that I am
expecting you to take a stand as
much of a disgraceful coward you have been so far.

xdmod2

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Jul 2, 2023, 1:50:37 AM7/2/23
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"Siri Cruise" <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> purple wrote:
>> Thanks to traitors like John Kerry who eventually got kicked out like
>> cocaine abuser
>
> He was also in the texas air national guard?

So, if I am reading you correctly, you are fine with murder when American
Democrats do it? Honestly that is the
vibe I am getting from you.

Siri Cruise

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Jul 2, 2023, 3:10:48 AM7/2/23
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Carol Kinsey Goman wrote:
> Lou Bricano <l...@cap.con> wrote in news:Vy4oM.3019$hfh...@fx40.iad:
>
>> On 7/1/2023 4:30 PM, Fonda wrote:
>>> David Hartung <ju...@nogood.com> wrote in
>>> news:836dnb4Hv7uJBT35...@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> On 7/1/23 15:56, purple wrote:
>>>>> Lou Bricano <l...@cap.con> wrote in
>>>>> news:OvZnM.7479$PbF4...@fx07.iad:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/did-the-news-media-led-by-w
>>>>>> al te
>>>>>> r-cronkite-lose-the-war-in-vietnam/2018/05/25/a5b3e098-495e-11e8-82
>>>>>> 7e -1 90efaf1f1ee_story.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/07/09/seeing-it-now
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And no, LBJ did not say, "If I’ve lost Cronkite, I’ve lost
>>>>>> middle America."
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lyndon Baines Johnson 1963... "These Negroes, they're getting
>>>>> pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've
>>>>> got something now they never had before, the political pull to back
>>>>> up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this,
>>>>> we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet
>>>>> them down, not enough to make a difference... I'll have them
>>>>> niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years"."
>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason the Tet offensive began to shift American public
>>>>>> opinion on the war is that it wasn't supposed to happen at all.
>>>>>> If America had been winning the war the way the administration
>>>>>> *and* our military leadership had been lying to us, the Tet
>>>>>> offensive *could not have happened.* The war was, as Cronkite —
>>>>>> who had gone to Vietnam to see for himself — effectively at a
>>>>>> stalemate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to traitors like John Kerry who eventually got kicked out
>>>>> like cocaine abuser Hunter Biden did.
>>>>
>>>> I am no friend of John Kerry, but I am not aware that he was kicked
>>>> out of the Navy.
>>>
>>> They kicked him so hard that
>>
>> Kerry was honorably discharged.
>
> Let's see his DD-214.
>
> A commissioned officer may be involuntarily separated if found to be
> substandard in the following ways: performance of duty, efficiency,
> leadership, response to training, attitude or character, maintenance of
> satisfactory progress while in a skills-awarding program, or acts of
> professional or moral misconduct.
>
> They can also be separated for disgrace. John Kerry is an immoral
> dishonest and disgraceful puke.
>

Still crazy after all these years.

xdmod2

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Jul 2, 2023, 5:10:12 AM7/2/23
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"Siri Cruise" <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You seem to be. What an immoral dude you are.
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