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Ramon F Herrera

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On Feb 3, 5:43 pm, Graphic Queen <p...@pagan.com> wrote:
> It happens to be in Falls Church, VA. I told them that it is up to
> them but that there are LIARS living in the same city of course. The
> street that they are looking at a place is on Seminary RD. I wonder if
> anyone here can tell me anything about the area. Our son works for
> AOL, as does his wife.
>
> GQ

The head technologist of AOL is a Venezuelan. His name is Mario P
Vecchi and is otherwise known as the father of the cablemodem. He was
chief of research at Bell Labs and founder of Cable Labs, where he led
the Excalibur Project that resulted in the invention of the
cablemodem. I met him at MIT, where he got his PhD. He was very
involved with the creation of the field known as Neural Networks used
on OCR and other AI disciplines. He and I were involved in bringing
the Internet to Venezuela, through a group that I founded named "Grupo
Conexion". Every time the Venezuelan Internet authorities needed
heavyweight speakers, they contacted me, and I sent them people like
Mario and others such as Andres Albanese, a Stanford researcher.

If I were you I would tell your children not to mention to their top
boss the things that you write here. I am assuming that your relatives
actually do some technology work and not sweeping floors or something.

Am I lying? Just Google for

"Grupo Conexion" Herrera

for instance.

-Ramon


Ramon F Herrera

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On Feb 3, 5:43 pm, Graphic Queen <p...@pagan.com> wrote:
> It happens to be in Falls Church, VA. I told them that it is up to
> them but that there are LIARS living in the same city of course. The
> street that they are looking at a place is on Seminary RD. I wonder if
> anyone here can tell me anything about the area. Our son works for
> AOL, as does his wife.
>
> GQ


Next time you use RoadRunner or a cable modem, thank a Venezuelan.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0UNZ/is_1998_Oct_5/ai_53058246
http://tinyurl.com/3524t5

Executive Suite: America Online Inc. Appoints Mario Vecchi Vice
President Of Broadband Development - Company Operations
EDGE, On & About AT&T, Oct 5, 1998

America Online Inc. Tuesday announced that Mario Vecchi has joined the
company in the new position of Vice President of Broadband
Development.

Formerly Senior VP and Chief Technical Officer of Time-Warner's Road
Runner Group, Dr. Vecchi will report to Miles Gilburne, Senior Vice
President of Corporate Development, and oversee AOL's strategic
initiatives to bring broadband services to its 13 million members.

"With his considerable technical and business expertise, Mario Vecchi
is a welcome addition to our team as we position AOL to make the
promise of broadband a reality for the mass market," said Steve Case,
chairman and CEO of America Online Inc.

"AOL's broad appeal, strong member loyalty and successful brand
marketing put us in a unique position to accelerate the delivery of
broadband's benefits to millions of consumers around the world."

Vecchi has more than 20 years experience in developing and deploying
new technologies, including co-founding Road Runner, Time-Warner's
pioneering cable modem online service. Vecchi served as the technical
leader of Road Runner from its initial concept in 1994, through a
market trial in 1995, to its commercial deployment in 12 cities by
1998.

-Ramon


Ramon F Herrera

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On Feb 3, 5:43 pm, Graphic Queen <p...@pagan.com> wrote:
> It happens to be in Falls Church, VA. I told them that it is up to
> them but that there are LIARS living in the same city of course. The
> street that they are looking at a place is on Seminary RD. I wonder if
> anyone here can tell me anything about the area. Our son works for
> AOL, as does his wife.
>
> GQ

http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=75719&paper=68&cat=104
http://tinyurl.com/3dz2gs

Getting to Know...
Frances Vecchi
January 10, 2007


Contributed
Frances Vecchi in the Artists' Atelier in the Great Falls Village
Center.

Beginning Tuesday, Jan. 9, the original oil paintings of Frances
Vecchi will be on display at the Great Falls Library, located at 9830
Georgetown Pike. Vecchi, a Great Falls resident and a member of Great
Falls Studios and the Artists' Atelier in the Great Falls Village
Center, specializes in large, Romantic Realist oil paintings. The
exhibit will run Mondays through Saturdays from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
through Wednesday, Jan. 31. The public is invited to an opening
reception on Sunday Jan. 14, from 1 to 3 p.m. at the Great Falls
Library. Music and light refreshments will be provided.
The Great Falls Library show, entitled "The Four Seasons," is a
collection of the artist's original oil paintings, which are done from
life and depict a variety of subjects. The major emphasis is on
landscape as it changes throughout the year.
All work is available for sale. For more information or for purchase,
contact Frances Vecchi at fvk...@aol.com.

Number of years in the community. I have lived in Great Falls since
1998, when we moved here from Connecticut with our youngest child,
Eva. During this time my husband and I spent two years living in
Dublin, Ireland for his work. We moved back from Dublin one year ago.

Family. My husband is Dr. Mario Vecchi. He is in technology and has
most recently been in charge of AOL's Global Technology, here in
Dulles, in Dublin, Ireland, and in Bangalore, India. Our children are:
Dr. Gabriel Vecchi, 33 - his new bride is the lovely Anna. He is a
research professor in physical oceanography with Princeton University
and NOAA; Dan Vecchi, 25, is working as a Peace Corps Volunteer in
Paraguay. He is an economist, writer and musician; Eva Vecchi, 23,
graduated from Langley High School, and received her bachelor's degree
from the University of Colorado. She is presently a graduate student
at Georgetown University in Computational Linguistics, and works with
MITRE.

Education. I received my bachelor's degree in arts and sciences from
Cornell University, and did graduate work at Boston University in fine
arts. I have studied at the Art League in Alexandria with Rob Liberace
and Danni Dawson, and have also studied with Nelson Shanks, James
McGinley, and with Magdelaine Mocquot in Paris. I have done
specialized art courses in Italy, France, Ireland and Venezuela, as
well as at the Art Student's League in Denver.

Current Job/Primary Occupation. I am presently a dedicated artist,
living and working in Great Falls. I do Romantic Realist oil
paintings. I am one of the founding members of the Artists' Atelier in
the Great Falls Village Center, and I am a member of Great Falls
Studios. I love studying the work of the great artists of the past -
Rembrandt, Velasquez, Sargent, Sorolla, Leonardo, Michelangelo, Monet,
Gauguin - the inspiration is endless! Three things motivate me: The
first is that I thrive on the actual process of creating the work -
the variations of the effects of oil paints on canvas are endless. I
work from life, and that is fascinating. You truly empathize with a
winter landscape when you are trying to hold a brush and paint with
three layers of gloves to keep out the cold. The flickering, changing
light as leaves fall from autumn trees all around you gives movement
to any painting, and the conversation and animation of a portrait
model are what infuse life into the finished work. Occasionally I
refer to photos which I take when a location or a transitory lighting
effect or a busy person's pose cannot be maintained over time or
reproduced. That is fun too - I love my work. The second thing that
motivates me is seeing the finished work. I am totally removed from
the creative process, and I am always entranced by the final effect.
The third thing that motivates me is also the most rewarding aspect of
art, and that is the response of the viewer to my work. It is so
beautiful because they see things I never imagined, but which are
naturally infused in the painting - the personality of the model, or
the landscape. Their emotionally positive response is the best thing
in the world.

Achievements. Most recently, my work has been featured in "Elan"
Magazine. My paintings are on display at the Artists' Atelier Gallery
in the Great Falls Village Center, and in Java Junction, located at
1025 Seneca Road, Suite D, as well as in the Visitors' Center of
Riverbend Park. My local, solo shows have been in Saveur in
Georgetown, in ROW Gallery in Washington, D.C., and in the Riverbend
Park Visitor's Center. My work has won numerous awards including
several first prizes and "Best in Show" in Somerset Co. and Raritan
Valley Arts Assoc. (RVAA) in New Jersey. I subsequently served as
president of the RVAA, and was appointed to the Somerset County Arts
Council just before moving to Colorado. I have participated in many
solo and group shows within the U.S., Europe and Latin America. These
included the American Embassy in Caracas, the Alliance Francaise, and
the National Research Center (IVIC), and the United Arts Club, in
Dublin, Ireland.

Activities/Interests/Hobbies. I love the parks in and around Great
Falls - the nature here is extraordinary. I am fascinated by travel
and learning languages, which I find so stimulating. Every place I
have visited or lived in, and all the fascinating people I have met,
stay with me and influence my ideas and work. They are my world.
Everywhere I turn, the world is beautiful. I love seeing my children
make their way in the world. And of course I like to read, go to
movies and play with my Sheltie-dog.

Favorite local restaurant or place in the community? Java Junction is
a wonderful place to relax and enjoy coffee, food and conversation,
and to see local artwork beautifully displayed. To spend some time
there is a truly an enjoyable and cultural experience. In a similar
fashion, Riverbend Park is a great place to enjoy nature along the
Potomac and to see beautiful art exhibits. For a good meal with happy
and comfortable surroundings and fabulous music, we love the Old
Brogue. Fior' di Luna is great - we love the food, and the beautiful
music. And of course, L'Auberge Chez Francois!

What are your community concerns? What are some ideas you have on ways
to improve your community? Oh, how I wish we had more sidewalks
everywhere to walk comfortably and see this beautiful place!

What brought you here? My husband Mario brought us here when he
started working at AOL, where he has worked in technology. Most
recently, he ran their International Development program from Dulles,
Dublin, Ireland and Bangalore, India.

What community "hidden treasure" do you think more people should know
about? Well, of course that is the "Artists' Atelier!" It is a unique,
unusual and innovative concept. We are seven artists in a beautiful
environment in the Great Falls Village Center. You can go in, sit
down, relax, watch the artists work and talk with them so that you see
and understand how the creative process actually happens. You might
even be able to have your portrait painted while you are there! Each
artwork is a new creation - unpredictable, not part of a mass
production of pretty things, but a real, personal artist's concept and
interpretation of visual beauty. Each artist and each of their works
is totally unique. Every time you go you will see something new,
something evolving and visually exciting. The conversation is always
fascinating and the environment is one of beauty and ideas. You can
watch the original work being created, ask the artist all about it and
enjoy seeing, and perhaps purchasing, the finished work as it is put
up for exhibition and sale. Here we flourish - this is art at its
best!

When you were younger, what did you want to be when you "grew up?" A
ballet dancer, perhaps a writer, an artist, maybe something in the
sciences, or a diplomat! My husband, my oldest son, and my daughter
are in science/technology. My daughter is also a ballet dancer. My
second son is a writer and Peace Corps "diplomat..." I guess that
leaves "artist," and that would be me. All my dreams fulfilled!

Where do you see yourself in five years? I am so happy that being an
artist allows me to work anywhere. One of the many beauties of life
with Mario is that I never know what wonderful situation will evolve
next. His work is very dynamic. We have lived in many places and thus
life is always wonderful and new. So, although I don't know "where" we
will be literally, I do know that in five years I will be traveling,
painting and exhibiting art, true to my vision. I expect it to be
always more and more exciting!

Personal goals? I am preparing an exhibition of paintings based on my
experiences in pre-Tsunami Sri Lanka, with views of the exquisite
beauty before the devastation of the wave, and the recovery afterward.
I am very excited about this project. It will pull in multiple
participants and address multiple issues. The goal is to help maintain
awareness of the ongoing need for Tsunami-Relief. The paintings are
beautiful and dramatic, and I hope to convey the drama of the
situation in a way that will be energizing and uplifting.


-Ramon F Herrera


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Asmodeus Rex

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On 3 Feb 2007 16:14:36 -0800, "Ramon F Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net>
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I see that your attempt to introduce "Graphic Queen" to a world of
culture and refinement is not working. The big question is: why do you
bother?

Ramon F Herrera

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On Feb 3, 6:24 pm, Graphic Queen <p...@pagan.com> wrote:
> On 3 Feb 2007 16:05:28 -0800, "Ramon F Herrera" <r...@conexus.net>

> wrote:
>
> >On Feb 3, 5:43 pm, Graphic Queen <p...@pagan.com> wrote:
> >> It happens to be in Falls Church, VA. I told them that it is up to
> >> them but that there are LIARS living in the same city of course. The
> >> street that they are looking at a place is on Seminary RD. I wonder if
> >> anyone here can tell me anything about the area. Our son works for
> >> AOL, as does his wife.
>
> >> GQ
>
> >Next time you use RoadRunner or a cable modem, thank a Venezuelan.
>
> >http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0UNZ/is_1998_Oct_5/ai_53058246
> >http://tinyurl.com/3524t5
>
> I don't and won't.
>

Don't believe in GPS, and cable modems, either, eh?

Still stuck with smoke signals?

No wonder the cops tracked down and you ended up in the pokey for drug
use.

-Ramon


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theod...@lycos.com

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On Feb 3, 4:43 pm, Graphic Queen <p...@pagan.com> wrote:
> It happens to be in Falls Church, VA. I told them that it is up to
> them but that there are LIARS living in the same city of course. The
> street that they are looking at a place is on Seminary RD. I wonder if
> anyone here can tell me anything about the area. Our son works for
> AOL, as does his wife.
>
> GQ

Falls Church is the path of "beanerfication" which is already
polluting adjacent
Arlington, VA.

For demographics visit:

http://www.city-data.com/

greg


John Gilmer

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<theod...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1170594394.2...@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...

> On Feb 3, 4:43 pm, Graphic Queen <p...@pagan.com> wrote:
> > It happens to be in Falls Church, VA.

Falls Church the actual city/town or "Falls Church" the mailing address? I
have a condo in "Skyline" which has the Falls Church mailing address. It's
several miles away from the Falls Church city/town limits but only a few 100
feet from the city limits of Alexandria.

Go figure.


charles bash

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Trying to clear up the puzzle posed by John Gilmer.
Falls Church is an area in Fairfax County,, the largest County in
Virginia, located in Northern Virginia.

There is a very small incorporated city in the northern part of the
county. It is called "Falls Church City". Population 10,780.

I could not find the current population of Falls Church area ( part of
Fairfax county) but it might be a quarter of the population of the
County,, which is just about one million.

The whole county is considered a desirable place to live. But I have
developing reservations about a small area in Falls church known as
Culmore. Almost the whole area is "garden" tyoe rental aoartments,
heavily populated with immigrants, a great many being Hispanic illegal
aliens. It is the only real 3rd world area in Fairfax County.although
immigrants are scattered in housing parcels in the largely eastern part
of the County.

Seminary Road is away from Culmore. The name comes from the fact there
used to be 3 seminaries on "Seminary Road". Two are still there,, i
think.

Fairfax County ( good proxy for Falls Church)
Population,, 1 million for whole county.
White non hispanic white ,,, 60.8%
Hispanics ,,, 12.5%
Foreign born ,,,24.5 %

There are two large apartment complexes on western end of Seminary Road,
one being Skyline City , containing a fair number of 26 story high rise
condominiums and rental apartments.

I am not aware of any new single homes on Seminary Road. Most existing
homes have been there for many years, but appear to be well kept. Not
many vacant lots on Seminary Road, which could allow new homes to be
built..

Hope the foregong sheds some light.
C. Bash.



charles bash

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Good for Qweenie's son & daughter in law.

Mebbie they can make something out of AOL, yet. I believe that AOL is
about to start Giving Away the service free! They were a millstone on
the back of Turner Broadcasting.

I got sucked in to AOL with their Free 200 Hours ( or whatever) and
signed up my first computer. I only used my Packard Bell a couple of
times for e-Mails and then I gave up permanently for the Ease of use,,
the Better print font,, the EZ on the eyes of pale green letters on
black background.,,, of Webtv!!

My PC's has more total capabilities, of course, than a webtv.

Also the Popups!! On AOL. Good lord, do you PC users still put up with
Popups or not? Never a Popup on webtv.

OBTW,,Fairfax County is known as Silicon Valley east, because so many IT
firms have their headquarters here,, or have large regional offices
here. I believe, that Fairfax County is also a major national hub for
US internet traffic.
C. Bash



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j89q...@sneakemail.com

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Manassas is the worst. Illegals come up across the border with maps
to Manassas. Half the town is illegal. All of Prince William County
is getting a huge influx of illegals.

Falls Church, Fairfax, Alexandria, they are have illegals loitering
around but not as densely as Manassas.

Reston and Herndon have it bad though Herndon is taking its town back
- in 2005 the citizens booted the pro-illegal city council and
installed a new one, who halted construction of a day laborer site and
are passing bills unfriendly to illegals. Herndon is probably the
best town to live around here because at least they're fighting back.
Manassas made baby steps at fighting back but got bitch-slapped by the
ACLU and are now facing huge lawsuits, therefore proceeding
carefully. Herndon is immune to the ACLU, they can't sue them for
failing to use taxpayer money to build day labor centers.

The whole area is starting to suffer from taxpayer flight and budgets
are coming up short all over.

On Feb 5, 11:15 am, Graphic Queen <p...@pagan.com> wrote:

> I did not say that it was a new home Charles. You really need to learn
> how to read with some comprehension. It would really help if you would
> just for once try to tell the truth and not continue to LIE about
> people the way you do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Tim Crowley

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j89q...@sneakemail.com

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Those economic stats are old. It's in the last year or so that the
taxpayer flight has started. I'm sure you'll see the stats go lower
and lower, and in 5 - 10 years it'll be an urban disaster area full of
mostly low-income people, unless something dramatic happens.

I've seen neighbors leave the area, up and down the block, disgusted
with what is happening. And the city council is supposedly surprised
that they have an 18 million dollar shortfall this year.

Americans don't want to live in Spanish-speaking neighborhoods, and
don't want to pay huge taxes to support illegals living 14 to a house.

j89q...@sneakemail.com

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There's a reason that there are roughly 50 anti-illegal immigrant
bills moving through the Virginia House right now ... it's because the
people are sickened by what is hppening here - http://
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/30/
AR2007013001780.html

> >http://www.manassascity.org/index.asp?NID=1037- Hide quoted text -

Tim Crowley

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On Feb 5, 10:21 am, j89q8h...@sneakemail.com wrote:
> Those economic stats are old. It's in the last year or so that the
> taxpayer flight has started. I'm sure you'll see the stats go lower
> and lower, and in 5 - 10 years it'll be an urban disaster area full of
> mostly low-income people, unless something dramatic happens.
>
> I've seen neighbors leave the area, up and down the block, disgusted
> with what is happening. And the city council is supposedly surprised
> that they have an 18 million dollar shortfall this year.
>
> Americans don't want to live in Spanish-speaking neighborhoods, and
> don't want to pay huge taxes to support illegals living 14 to a house.

The FACTS don't back up your hysteria:


This is from todays paper:


President Bush will tour Micron Technology's semiconductor
manufacturing plant tomorrow morning in Manassas. He is also expected
to make comments fiscal responsibility.

Todd House, Virginia government affairs manager for Micron, said the
company had encouraged the White House to come out and see what Micron
is contributing to the economy.

In 2005, Micron had 1,013 workers in Virginia, with 120 of those
living in Manassas, company offiicals said.

"This is a tremendous opportunity to highlight the facility and the
jobs we're creating," House said.

---

oh, btw: top posting is STILL rude and stupid.

charles bash

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Sneakemail! For hevvins sakes. I feel sorry for you if you live in
Manassas, VA and it is getting as bad as you say. I was acquainted with
a newly wed couple many years ago who lived in a Townhouse there. I, and
my friends, were invited several times to parties & gatherings there.

(( was it "Irongate",, where they lived?)). I thought Manassas was a
delightful place in which to live at the time. The "main drag" all very
new. clean,, & modern strip mall stores.

Falls Church really is still an OK place in which to live. In All public
places, however, retail shops, restaurants,,parking lots,etc. you have
to put up with Spanish as the dominant language. It really does irk me,,
and it shouldn't be this way.

But we will have a Follow-On Govm't one of these days and we will Take
back our country-- one way or another.

You can Bet your life on it --- Patriots are Betting it for you. I think
it is a Bad Sign that the states are trying to Fend off the Rampant
invasion of our country, with their own immigration control laws, and
the Feds are doing nothing, really, to bring it under control
C. Bash

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(fertilizer) <<< ==o== ,, thomas jefferson ,,



T Jr Hardman

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Graphic Queen wrote:

> It happens to be in Falls Church, VA. I told them that it is up to
> them but that there are LIARS living in the same city of course. The
> street that they are looking at a place is on Seminary RD. I wonder if
> anyone here can tell me anything about the area. Our son works for
> AOL, as does his wife.

It depends on which part of Falls Church you're considering.

I know that _the Washington Post_ recently did some articles on it, in
particular the huge amount of redevelopment. I seem to recall that the
so-called Koreatown was in Falls Church.

Oops, actually, that's Annandale, though actually it's almost the same
thing:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/05/AR2006030500797.html

<quote in-part>

More Than Koreatown
Developers Plan to Reflect Annandale's Broader Identity

By Elissa Silverman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, March 6, 2006; Page D01

Real estate developer Michael Kim spent the first seven years of his
childhood in Seoul, and when he looks at the 12-acre strip shopping
center he now co-owns in Annandale, there's plenty to remind him of the
homeland.

Too much, in fact.

The bakery selling Korean pastries and beverages has been a stable
tenant. But when Kim meets someone for coffee, he walks across the
parking lot to Wendy's.

The video store with Korean movies and television shows attracts a
steady stream of devoted customers. But Kim would prefer to spend an
afternoon with his family browsing at Barnes & Noble.

So as elected officials and residents debate the future of what has
become known as Koreatown, one of the strongest advocates for change is
Kim -- a Korean American who sees an oversaturation of bulgogi and
karaoke in the Fairfax County community where he grew up.

[ ... ]


</quote>

And then there's "Chirilagua"...

http://www.urbanmozaik.com/member_fea_archives/01mar_arc_chirilagua.html

<quote in-part>

About 3 miles south of the nation's capitol lies an intersection. An
intersection of towns, and intersection of roads, an intersection of
cultures. I lies where Arlington, Virginia meets Alexandria, Virginia,
and just south of where Mount Vernon Avenue hits Glebe Road. It is also
one of the many intersections where El Salvador has met the United States.

Still know to most Northern Virginians and Washingtonians as
"Arlandria", this strip of supermarkets, dressmaking shops, video stores
and hair salons has transformed in the last five years or so into
"Chirilagua". The neighborhood's general appearance has not changed much
in the time. The inhabitants, however, seem to have changed. It is now a
primarily bilingual, immigrant community. As one young resident explains
it, the name Chirilagua is derived from the region in El Salvador where
many of this community's new residents come from.

The new name has also become a signifier in the local lexicon of those
who really know the neighborhood and those who just drive through.

One lifetime resident of Alexandria responded to a question about
Chirilagua with, "oh, you mean Arlandria, yeah, i think I've played
soccer down there. What are you going to write about, though? I mean,
what is there to say about that strip? " This person has never walked
the sidewalks of Chirilagua, and unbeknownst to him he is missing out on
a growing part of his own hometown.

[ ... ]

</quote>

Seriously, if they're on the SE end of Seminary Road, they'll be more
into Chirilagua, if they're at the NE end of Seminary Road, they'll be
more towards Koreatown. The farther east they go, the closer they will
be to Old Town Alexandria and the river, but anywhere they are in that
part of NoVa, it's going to suck to commute out to Ashburn's AOL campus.
But then again, once they're home from work, DC and other fun spots are
a nice short drive from there.


--
http://thomashardman.com/ Centrist, Moderate, Republican in Maryland
A true Conservative isn't about to let
the enemies of America ruin his streams for Trout.

j89q...@sneakemail.com

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Manassas was nice until recently. I am hopeful though that it will be
nice again. People are angry, their politicians are afraid - I think
they noticed the ousting of the entire Herndon City Council over this
issue - and the bills are flowing.

The construction business that attracted so many illegals is slowing
down. With some disincentives provided by the government, plus their
home loan payments due to start ballooning soon, maybe many of the
ones here now will leave.

Max

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>Graphic Queen wrote:
>
>> It happens to be in Falls Church, VA. I told them that it is up to
>> them but that there are LIARS living in the same city of course. The
>> street that they are looking at a place is on Seminary RD. I wonder if
>> anyone here can tell me anything about the area. Our son works for
>> AOL, as does his wife.
>


AOL is in Ashburn.

Ashburn has a lot of homes that will considerably cut his commute
to/from work.

The homes in this area are all relatively the same in price so unless
there's a compelling reason to buy in Falls Church, I'd tell your son
to look closer to the AOL campus (Ashburn, Reston, Herndon, Sterling,
Cascades etc).

And right now, it's definately a buyers market everywhere around the
metro area.

charles bash

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Feb 5, 2007, 9:16:17 PM2/5/07
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Sneakemail notes;; < in part >
>The construction business that attracted So
>Many Illegals is slowing down. With some
>disincentives from the Govnm't and their Home
>Loan payments due to start to Ballooning soon,
>many of the ones here will now leave.
It is a necessary legal requirement that certain legal actions need be
Publicized, to make the intended action a Public Notice.

Generally a local newspaper provides the venue in which the legal
requirement is met. . Apparently "home foreclosure"" is one of the
Actions that need this newspaper public notice. The Washington Times
most certainly has lower advertising rates than the Post because of its
lesser circulation.

Recently, only 2 or 3 weeks ago, I was Shocked to see in the Times, PAGE
After PAGE of Home Mortgage FORECLOSURES!!! About 3 and 1/2 pages in
all! In the Washington Times.

I counted the number of notices -- more than EIGHTY IIRC. I have seen
foreclosure notices before but Never ennything published on such a grand
scale.

Each little add was one column width and, I would say about 7 to 10
inches or so of column length.. There were a few business foreclosures
included.

This must have been an Orchestrated event, inasmuch as All geographic
areas of the Washington Metropolitan area were represented
simultaneously.

No mention was made of the Obvious Newsworthiness of this publicized
event. No mention at all of the Gathering Economic Storm that will crush
America's "strong economy", that "has become Dependent on illegal alien
labor!""

If we Patriots are lucky, a Follow-On Govm't will be needed to keep Law
'n Order! And to take our country back.
C. Bash

"Earmark" this observation and you will know where you heard it first.
.



Tim Crowley

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Feb 5, 2007, 11:36:22 PM2/5/07
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On Feb 5, 6:16 pm, C...@webtv.net (charles bash) wrote:

> Recently, only 2 or 3 weeks ago, I was Shocked to see in the Times, PAGE
> After PAGE of Home Mortgage FORECLOSURES!!! About 3 and 1/2 pages in
> all! In the Washington Times.

http://washington.bizjournals.com/washington/othercities/jacksonville/stories/2007/01/22/daily38.html?b=1169442000%5E1409284

T Jr Hardman

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Feb 6, 2007, 8:45:36 AM2/6/07
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j89q...@sneakemail.com wrote:
> Manassas was nice until recently. I am hopeful though that it will be
> nice again. People are angry, their politicians are afraid - I think
> they noticed the ousting of the entire Herndon City Council over this
> issue - and the bills are flowing.

<snips />

I friend of mine lives out south of "Molassas", just over the county
line. He moved there about 10 years ago with his wife, they've got two
kids in the schools and they say that the schools are one of the main
reasons they live there, rather than where they used to live near Chantilly.

I recently visited them and he said that the whole south side of
Manassas is "hispanified". Driving out to visit them I had to go
straight through Old Town and then hung a left to get under the railroad
tracks. Instantly it was like being in another country, to read the
signs and look at the people. Five years before, the first time I made
it out that way, almost everyone I saw in that part of town was black.

That whole "blacks are being replaced by Latinos" thing is widespread
around the region and it's even causing some tensions downtown in the
District. I always figured that the District would as usual be the last
place to notice, as the evident plan had always been to surround and
permeate the suburbs and then close on the capital with a pincers
movement after the encirclement. As usual, facts as they evolve tend to
support the most dismal of my expectations.

From _the Washington Post_:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/04/AR2007020401088.html

<quote in-part>

Lawn-Care Entrepreneur Faces A Changing Racial Landscape
By Krissah Williams
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, February 5, 2007; Page A01

In the months that landscaper Nikita Floyd's employees tended the
50-acre grounds at a large African American church, he received no
complaint about their work.

So it surprised and stung him when a minister at the Prince George's
County congregation told him she was appalled that Floyd, who is black,
sent a crew of a half-dozen Latin American immigrants to do the job. It
was the mid-1990s, and Congress was considering immigration reform, but
Floyd never imagined that his small company would be caught in the
national debate.

"Why don't you have any black workers?" Floyd recalls the minister
asking as she threatened to snatch the contract. With many blacks living
in the neighborhood and sitting in the church's pews, shouldn't Floyd be
hiring them, she wanted to know.

Floyd, 38, owner of Green Forever Landscaping in Upper Marlboro, managed
to keep that contract, but 10 years later, he said he feels similar
tensions growing as Congress reexamines immigration law.

When immigrants compete for jobs, black workers are more vulnerable, say
economists who point out that blacks are still disproportionately
employed in low-skilled jobs. That vulnerability has been felt recently
in the District's working-class Brentwood community, where the presence
of a large day-labor site in the Home Depot parking lot has alarmed some
black residents, who say they worry that illegal immigrants are taking
jobs from others.

Green Forever offers a window on the issue. In the early 1990s, Floyd
had fewer than a dozen employees, all of them black. Today, 73 percent
of the Washington area's landscaping workers are immigrants, along with
51 percent of office cleaners and 43 percent of construction workers,
according to a Pew Hispanic Center study last year.

Floyd's 20 wintertime workers are all men from El Salvador, except for
two black women who manage the office. In the summer, he employs twice
as many men, all immigrants.

[ ... ]

[Floyd] hires from a network developed by early immigrants
referring relatives and friends. As black workers cycled out,
immigrants cycled in. The cycle churned until black workers
were effectively locked out. Now, Floyd says, they
rarely apply for jobs at Green Forever. A study by the
Rand Corp., a think tank, shows that workforce replacement
such as Floyd's full shift from black to Latino is rare.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But when the change occurs, it is not often reversed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Vernon Briggs, a professor of industrial and labor relations
at Cornell University who favors low immigration rates, said
no group has "been harmed more by immigration than black Americans,"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
as immigrants often accept lower wages.

In the 1980s, the loss of thousands of jobs among the predominantly
black, unionized janitorial workforce in Los Angeles to nonunion
immigrants during a contract dispute marked a seminal point in the
argument, said Earl Ofari Hutchinson, a Los Angeles-based social issues
commentator who favors cooperation between blacks and Latinos.

"There was a lot of resentment on the part of many African Americans
because they lost their jobs," Hutchinson said. "African Americans don't
even look at that [sector] anymore because it is not open to them, or
they believe it is closed to them."

[ ... ]

</quote>

So even the more successful blacks are hiring latinos instead of other
blacks, or anyone else for that matter.

And it doesn't stop there. The black "casual worker" has been pretty
much replaced out in the suburbs, with the landscaping work being almost
exclusively done by latinamericans, and now they're replacing the black
casual worker in deepest downtown DC:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/25/AR2007012502029.html

<quote in-part>

The Hunt for Work Fosters Tension
Black Residents, Latino Laborers In the Middle
By Yolanda Woodlee
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, January 26, 2007; Page B01

Regina James says she drives past Rhode Island Plaza every weekday
morning and has mixed feelings at the sight of more than 100 Latino men
waiting for day-labor jobs in the Home Depot parking lot.

The increasing number of laborers, some of whom residents say leave
trash on the ground and urinate along a nearby barrier wall, has
heightened tension and stirred mistrust between the Latinos and the
mostly black residents of the working-class Brentwood neighborhood in
Northeast.

Some residents complain that the day laborers don't live in the
community, express fears that their presence could bring down property
values, and gripe that they may be illegal immigrants taking jobs from
others.

"People don't want it there, and it's going to get worse," said James, a
former advisory neighborhood commissioner.

"People don't want it there, and it's going to get worse," said James, a
former advisory neighborhood commissioner.

But at the same time, James and other residents are worried about their
own reactions. They know that African Americans are also out of work and
out looking for jobs.

"I don't want to see this get inflamed, because 40 years ago, this was
our history. Black people did those jobs that nobody else wanted to do.
It's really sensitive. I want to make sure we handle it with care
because it is already explosive."

Despite the ethnic component to the problem, the situation in Brentwood
is part of a growing dilemma in the Washington area and elsewhere,
intensified by those who oppose spending taxpayer dollars to help
immigrants who may not be in the country legally.

Before a labor center opened in Herndon in late 2005, tensions grew
between the mostly white residents and Hispanic day laborers, and the
Fairfax town drew attention in the national immigration debate.

In Montgomery County, opposition from residents and business owners
forced officials to abandon plans to place a county-funded labor center
in Gaithersburg.

In the District, Latino advocates say the Home Depot is the largest
day-labor site since one of two paint stores closed at 15th and P
streets NW. During the summer, residents say they have seen as many as
200 day laborers at the Home Depot. Residents say police have not acted
on their complaints about loitering because the parking lot is private
property.

[ ... ]

</quote>

I should point out that in Montgomery County, the decision was made in
backroom deals outside of public comment and decision-making process, to
go ahead and build a new day-laborer center off of Crabbs Branch Way
just outside the Gaithersburg MD city limits. On the minus side, aside
from the aforementioned unilateral decision to forge ahead with what
nobody wants, this facility has also been assigned to operational
control, in a no-bid/closed-bid giveaway, by CASA de Maryland which is
almost assured to restrict access to illegal aliens from centralamerica.
On the plus side, it's right up the street from a huge and at-capacity
Homeless Shelter. When the county commuters sees crowds of homeless
destitute citizens being driven away -- by supporters of illegal aliens
-- from opportunities to work and get housing and upward mobility, the
situtation here could increase in ugliness and outrage.

That the county Democrats decided to set this up more-or-less right
across the street from the Montgomery County Republicans headquarters,
that's adding insult to injury all across the board.

Maybe I'll kick off my campaign for the next election by trying to get
work at this new day laborer center once it opens up. I wonder what
entertainingness could wind up on YouTube. I wonder if maybe some of the
10,000 people who voted for me -- many of them from Derwood, and in
vocal opposition to having this for-foreigners-only day-laborer site
plopped down in their neighborhood -- would be willing to help keep
these people honest. I can see it now: "Derwood aldermen beaten by
imported goons when they disguise themselves as homeless jobseekers,
film at eleven and all over the internet".

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