Benjamin Franklin on the jews:
Michael Laudahn eOpposition
"In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have
lowered its moral tone, depreciated its commercial integrity; have
segregated themselves and not been assimilated; have sneered at and
tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is
founded by objecting to its restrictions: have built up a state within
a state, and when opposed, have tried to strangle that country to
death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal. If you do not
exclude them from the United States in this Constitution, in less than
200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will
dominate, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives
and our substances, and jeopardized our liberty. If you do not exclude
them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the
fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting
houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not
exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your
graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they
will, or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never
be otherwise."
Excerpt of
http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/a_short_history_of_the_jews.htm
How right he was. And basically the same that I myself always say.
Only that he formulates better - and is more known. >.)
Read the article. The parallels between jews and mohammedans are
terryfying. 'As one writer tersely put it, the Jews represent a wedge
of Asia driven into the heart of Europe.'
--
Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism
ideology enforced upon the white world against the will of its
peoples, leading to mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul +
pol-corr = lethal
mixture for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle
all surveillance technology.
Ördög
PARANOIA
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Definition
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reaching delusional proportions. Paranoid individuals constantly
suspect the motives of those around them, and believe that certain
individuals, or people in general, are "out to get them."
Description
Paranoid perceptions and behavior may appear as features of a number
of mental illnesses, including depression and dementia, but are most
prominent in three types of psychological disorders: paranoid
schizophrenia, delusional disorder (persecutory type), and paranoid
personality disorder (PPD).
Individuals with paranoid schizophrenia and persecutory delusional
disorder experience what is known as persecutory delusions: an
irrational, yet unshakable, belief that someone is plotting against
them. Persecutory delusions in paranoid schizophrenia are bizarre,
sometimes grandiose, and often accompanied by auditory hallucinations.
Delusions experienced by individuals with delusional disorder are more
plausible than those experienced by paranoid schizophrenics; not
bizarre, though still unjustified. Individuals with delusional
disorder may seem offbeat or quirky rather than mentally ill, and, as
such, may never seek treatment.
Persons with paranoid personality disorder tend to be self-centered,
self-important, defensive, and emotionally distant. Their paranoia
manifests itself in constant suspicions rather than full-blown
delusions. The disorder often impedes social and personal
relationships and career advancement. Some individuals with PPD are
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Seek professional help Helicopter Michi, who knows it might be not too
late after all!
__________________________________
Wer ist "Hubschrauber" Michael Laudahn?
Ein Sozialabzocker und Asylant da in Dänemark....
UseNet Spammer, Nazi, mehr scheinst du Wixer nicht zu sein.
<> - - - - - -
<> Proudly introducing the concept of HATE to the World
<> 'Freedom of speech - abuse it and then ban it!
(The above is an excerpt from Helicopter Michi's membership
application
sent to the Danish Branch of the Grand United European Neo and
Traditional Nazi Boys Club.)
Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Boo" in the dark)
Either the neocons go or civilisation does!
Fup wie ich empfinde es angebracht!
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wrote:
> "In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have
> lowered its moral tone, depreciated its commercial integrity; have
> segregated themselves and not been assimilated; have sneered at and
> tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is
> founded by objecting to its restrictions: have built up a state within
> a state, and when opposed, have tried to strangle that country to
> death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal. If you do not
> exclude them from the United States in this Constitution, in less than
> 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will
> dominate, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives
> and our substances, and jeopardized our liberty. If you do not exclude
> them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the
> fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting
> houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not
> exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your
> graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they
> will, or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never
> be otherwise."
>
> Excerpt of
>
>
> How right he was. And basically the same that I myself always say.
> Only that he formulates better - and is more known. >.)
>
> Read the article. The parallels between jews and mohammedans are
> terryfying. 'As one writer tersely put it, the Jews represent a wedge
> of Asia driven into the heart of Europe.'
>
> --
> Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism
> ideology enforced upon the white world against the will of its
> peoples, leading to mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul +
> pol-corr = lethal
> mixture for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle
> all surveillance technology.
What a load of shit.
Lou Ravi
> "In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have
> lowered its moral tone,
I do,n't agree, on the contrary, Jews are often very cultured and
intelligent.
> depreciated its commercial integrity; have
> segregated themselves and not been assimilated;
True enough but is it really important?
> have sneered at and
> tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is
> founded by objecting to its restrictions:
Hmmm, not sure on that one. I've never seen much proselytism from the
Jews nor attacks on Chrisitianity.
>have built up a state within
> a state, and when opposed, have tried to strangle that country to
> death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
When was this, 1800 or so? This is 2008 old chap, things gave changed.
> If you do not
> exclude them from the United States in this Constitution, in less than
> 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will
> dominate, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives
> and our substances, and jeopardized our liberty. If you do not exclude
> them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the
> fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting
> houses rubbing their hands.
Absolute complete and utter bollocks.Have you looked at their level of
fertility and fecundation?
> I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not
> exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your
> graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they
> will, or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never
> be otherwise."
Bof, an idea from a long time ago that doesn't really apply to today.
I'd acept that there is a 'Jewish lobby' and that in certain areas they
are well implanted but I don't think there is some dastardly plot to
wipe out the goyim.
Mad Ape
<snip the racist bullshit>
So what you are saying is that Benjamin Franklin was a racist. Just like
you.
Now move along. Flush yourself down the toilet you piece of shit!
The Mad Ape
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"Lou Ravi" <j.mu...@libertysurf.fr> wrote in message
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His final solution is to kill all Jews and all Muslims.
His psychiatrist should give him an overdose.
B J Foster
br...@pobox.com
"Franklin is reported as saying..."
Another way of saying, "The other office Nazi told me this while
standing around the water cooler."
Cormac
A common expression in Dublin during the Hitler war years was " If
there was one good thing Hitler did, it was to get rid of the Jews".
It is also recorded in a speech by Oliver Flanagan T D in the Dail in
1943.
Cormac.
Beacon
"Michael Laudahn eOpposition" <ch80...@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have
> Excerpt of
>
> http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/a_short_history_of_the_jews.htm
>
It would be "argument from authority" to say Franklin said it so it must be
true but this is funny because the actual text of Franklin's speech to the
constitutional congress which can be found at:
http://www.usconstitution.net/franklin.html
and
http://americanrevival.org/documents/other/franklin_convention.htm
While it does mention Church of England and Roman Catholic franklin's speech
does not have the word "jew" once!
By the way the7thfire.com is listed as a revisionist /holocaust denial site
at:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/intrelhate1.htm
>
> How right he was. And basically the same that I myself always say.
> Only that he formulates better - and is more known. >.)
>
> Read the article. The parallels between jews and mohammedans are
> terryfying. 'As one writer tersely put it, the Jews represent a wedge
> of Asia driven into the heart of Europe.'
http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2007/November/20071116144849atlahtnevel0.359524.html
The "Franklin Prophecy" was published in the February 3, 1934 edition of the
weekly newspaper <I>Liberation</I>, published by American Nazi leader
William Dudley Pelley. Pelley, a former newspaper reporter, is suspected of
being the author of the forgery...
The eminent American historian Charles Beard investigated the "Franklin
Prophecy." He could find no copy of Pickney's diary or even any reference to
it in the Library of Congress, the National Archives, the Franklin
Institute, or other historical libraries. Nor was there any reference to
Franklin having made such a speech.
16 November 2007
The "Franklin Prophecy"
70-year-old forgery continues to circulate
The so-called "Franklin Prophecy," which continues to appear in various
countries, is an anti-Jewish forgery that first appeared in the United
States in 1934. Shortly thereafter, it was revealed to be a phony document.
The "Franklin Prophecy" claims that during the 1787 Constitutional
Convention, American founding father Benjamin Franklin made a speech in
which he warned against Jewish influence in America and proposed that Jews
be expelled from the United States. The speech allegedly was found in the
diary of a convention delegate, Charles Coatesworth Pickney of South
Carolina.
The eminent American historian Charles Beard investigated the "Franklin
Prophecy." He could find no copy of Pickney's diary or even any reference to
it in the Library of Congress, the National Archives, the Franklin
Institute, or other historical libraries. Nor was there any reference to
Franklin having made such a speech. In 1935, Beard wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE>I cannot find a single original source that gives the slightest
justification for believing that the Prophecy is anything more than a
barefaced forgery. Not a word have I discovered in Franklin's letters and
papers expressing any such sentiments against the Jews as are ascribed to
him .. His well-known liberality in matters of religious opinion would, in
fact, have precluded the kind of utterances put in his mouth by this
palpable forgery . . . In his writings on immigration, Franklin made no
mention of discrimination against Jews. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Part of the "Franklin Prophecy" claimed that Franklin had said:
<BLOCKQUOTE>For more than 1700 years, [the Jews] have lamented their
sorrowful fate - namely, that they have been driven out of their homeland;
but, gentlemen, if the civilized world today should give them back Palestine
and their property, they would immediately find pressing reason for not
returning there. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Beard noted, with regard to this sentence and the "Prophecy" in general:
<BLOCKQUOTE>the phraseology of the alleged Prophecy is not that of the 18th
century; nor is the language that of Franklin. It contains certain words
that belong to contemporary [Nazi] Germany rather than America of Franklin's
period. For example, the word "homeland" was not employed by Jews in
Franklin's time. It was created in connection with the Palestine mandate.
</BLOCKQUOTE>
In other words, the passage referring to a "homeland" for the Jews in
Palestine could only have been written after this idea was first suggested
in the mid-1800s - well after the 1787 Constitutional Convention.
Beard also noted that Franklin held Jews in high regard, citing the fact
that Franklin contributed five pounds to the Hebrew Society of Philadelphia
when it was raising money for a synagogue and signing an appeal for
contributions to the synagogue from "citizens of every religious
denomination."
Other historians and experts agree the "Prophecy" was a forgery. J. Henry
Smythe, Jr., author of <I>The Amazing Benjamin Franklin</I>, said it was "a
counterfeit," stating, "I have investigated this calumny and find no
historical basis." The librarian of the Historical Society of Pennsylvania,
Julian P. Boyd, came to the same conclusion. Another Franklin biographer,
Carl Van Doren,...
sama bin Laden referred to Pelley's "Franklin Prophecy" forgery in his 2002
"Letter to the American People," in which he complained about supposed
Jewish power in America, stating that this is "precisely what Benjamin
Franklin warned you against."
Distributed by the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S.
Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov
Scotius
A friend of mine suggested to me that Freemasonry was like
Talmudism for Gentiles, which obviously is incorrect, since the
traditions of Freemasonry go back to a time well before there were any
Jews in Europe at all. That said, it may be fair to suggest that in
fact the Jews get blamed for a lot of what goes on that Gentiles are
in fact behind. Bush and his cronies are mostly Gentiles, it should be
noted.
Séimí mac Liam
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The so-called Franklin Prophecy was repudiated and debunked by the
Franklin Society as a fraud shortly after it first appeard in the 1930's.
He didn't say it folks.
--
Saint Séimí mac Liam
Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve
Prophet of The Great Tagger
Canonized December '99
sir.jp...@neuf.fr
<ch805...@yahoo.com.br> wrote:
THE EVIDENT PROBLEM IS WITH THE FRAUDULENT CHRISTIAN SECT AND ITS
INFAMOUS JESUS ALLEGED CHRIST ( OR MESSIAH )
THE JEWS SAW ALL OF THIS AS A FRAUD LONG AGO AND RIGHTLY IT'S HIGH
TIME TO GIVE THEM THAT CREDIT THAT THEY DID ALL TO OPEN THE GOYS
( VILE SEED OF CATTLE) 'S EYES TO THE MASQUERADE OF THE BRISTIANS
BLEATING CRAWLING BELLOWING CARRION FEEDING & SEWAGE DRINKING SECTS !
The Roman themselves before the Constantine opportunist called it the
SECT OF FILTH, since unable to clean themselves and unable to see the
difference between the pure & used water. The Roman rightly murdered
that BRISTIANS FILTH BY THOUSAND AS THE CAUSE OF PLAGUES & FAMINES
INDEED ...
JUST BLAME YOURSELF FOR THE SITUATION OF SLAVERY IN WHICH YOU HAVE PUT
YOURSELF AS INDEED TRAITORS TO OUR ALMIGHTY CELTIC AND THE GOD OF OUR
FATHERS INDEED !
LET'S PRAY NOW !
Great God, The Unique, The Unnamed, The Blessed One and Creator of
all !
Teach us to love our friends as best as we can with honour,
and hate our enemies and pursue them with our revenge until they pay
or ask
for mercy !
Please curse them just as we do, and support our just anger !
Give us strength to uphold at all time the Blessed Sword of Justice,
and never falter in the Respect of our Duty & Obedience to the Sacred
Cosmic Laws !!!!
LET IT BE
HAIL TO MEN OF HONOUR !!!!
Westprog
> The so-called Franklin Prophecy was repudiated and debunked by the
> Franklin Society as a fraud shortly after it first appeard in the
> 1930's. He didn't say it folks.
But it will continue to be repeated, just like The Protocols. Sometimes
total debunking strengthens the True Believers.
There are plenty of anti-semitic statements from eminent figures from
history. Doesn't mean that they were right - it means that they held certain
opinions common in their time.
Viejo Vizcacha
wrote:
> "In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have
> lowered its moral tone, depreciated its commercial integrity; have
> segregated themselves and not been assimilated; have sneered at and
> tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is
> founded by objecting to its restrictions: have built up a state within
> a state, and when opposed, have tried to strangle that country to
> death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal. If you do not
> exclude them from the United States in this Constitution, in less than
> 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will
> dominate, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives
> and our substances, and jeopardized our liberty. If you do not exclude
> them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the
> fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting
> houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not
> exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your
> graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they
> will, or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never
> be otherwise."
>
> Excerpt of
>
>
> How right he was. And basically the same that I myself always say.
> Only that he formulates better - and is more known. >.)
>
One of the most popular fallacies. It is interesting, and fun for the
proposer, but it is a fallacy nevertheless.
http://www.theology.edu/logic/logic23.htm
f. Argumentum ad verecundiam
An argument in which an authority is appealed to. Ad verecundiam
refers to a fallacy of simply resorting to appeals to authority.
Again, very common in advertizing.
Examples:
1. Drink this soda because this famous athlete drinks it.
2. Vote this way because this famous actor will vote this way.
3. Believe this because this famous pastor (teacher) believes this.
and I would add example number 4
4. Be anti-Jewish, because Benjamin Franklin was.
VV
Séimí mac Liam
8977-c30...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
But he wasn't. He didn't make the statements alleged. It's a lie from
beginning to end.
br...@pobox.com
The thing is, Franklin never made the statements in question. The
entire claim is a fraud.
>
>VV
Viejo Vizcacha
wrote:
> Viejo Vizcacha <nats_ugly...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:3e9f2ca0-8c3f-46ff-
> 8977-c30a810cf...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
Lying would not be beneath the Nazis. It does not surprise me.
VV
simple.lan...@gmail.com
"The Franklin Prophecy", sometimes called "The Franklin Forgery", is
an antisemitic speech falsely attributed to Benjamin Franklin, warning
of the supposed dangers of admitting Jews to the nascent United
States. The speech was purportedly transcribed by Charles Cotesworth
Pinckney during the Constitutional Convention of 1787, but was unknown
before its appearance in 1934 in the pages of William Dudley Pelley's
pro-Nazi weekly magazine Liberation. With linguistic anachronisms, it
cannot be genuine. Despite having been repeatedly discredited since
its first appearance, the “prophecy” has proved a remarkably durable
canard, returning most recently as a popular internet hoax promulgated
on usenet groups and antisemitic websites, where it is presented as
authentic. On February 18, 1998, a member of the Fatah Central
Committee revived this myth and mistakenly referred to Franklin as a
former President of the United States.[1] Osama Bin Laden has even
used this canard briefly in his November 2002 "Letter to the American
People."[2] While its author is not known, many who have investigated
the “prophecy” suspect Pelley of having penned it himself.
The US Congress report Anti-Semitism in Europe: Hearing Before the
Subcommittee on European Affairs of the Committee on Foreign Relations
(2004) states:
"The Franklin "Prophecy" is a classic anti-Semitic canard that falsely
claims that American statesman Benjamin Franklin made anti-Jewish
statements during the Constitutional Convention of 1787. It has found
widening acceptance in Muslim and Arab media, where it has been used
to criticize Israel and Jews..."[3]
Franklin was, in fact, a friend to the Jews of 18th-century America,
[4] and contributed toward the building of Philadelphia's first
permanent synagogue.[5]
There have been similar false antisemitic quotations attributed to
George Washington which have been debunked. In fact, in 1790
Washington sent a letter to the Jewish community in Rhode Island,
writing that he envisioned a country "which gives bigotry no
sanction ... persecution no assistance". For the first time in modern
history, Jews lived in a country where they enjoyed full and equal
human and political rights - as a birthright of citizenship.[6]
David Johnston
>
> A friend of mine suggested to me that Freemasonry was like
>Talmudism for Gentiles, which obviously is incorrect, since the
>traditions of Freemasonry go back to a time well before there were any
>Jews in Europe at all.
No, they most certainly do not.