L.I. Home Held Up to 64 Men
Don Gabacho
By Bruce Lambert
The New York Times, June 21, 2005
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/nyregion/21house.html
FARMINGVILLE, N.Y. -- Long Island law enforcement agents raided and
closed a small one-family home here that they said had been converted
into an illegal rooming house jammed with 44 beds and up to 64 male
occupants.
Officials said they are investigating an additional 117 houses for
illegal overcrowding in this blue-collar suburb, which has been
polarized in recent years over an influx of thousands of Mexican
laborers, many of them illegal immigrants who work in the contracting,
landscaping and service industries.
The crackdown is the latest front in the battle over immigration here
that has prompted homeowner protests and even violence. Last year
Farmingville became the title of an award-winning documentary on the
struggle.
Shortly after dawn on Sunday, a team of Brookhaven building inspectors
and fire marshals joined county police in raiding the dilapidated,
900-square-foot home at 33 Woodmont Place and found 28 men there. But
inspectors said they had counted as many as 64 men emerging from the
house on other mornings in recent weeks.
The tenants paid $225 to $250 a month each for a bunk in the house, the
police said. Suffolk's district attorney, Thomas J. Spota, estimated
the gross monthly rent at $9,000.
The site is just a block away from Granny Road, where in July 2003,
local teenagers set fire to a house with a Mexican family sleeping
inside. The family barely escaped. Three years before that, two
out-of-towners pretending to be contractors lured two Mexican tenants
from the house next door and savagely beat them. In both cases the
assailants were arrested and convicted.
'It's ground zero,' said Rev. Allan B. Ramirez, an advocate for
immigrants who was familiar with the house on Woodmont and returned
there Monday as some occupants removed their belongings.
At a news conference on Monday, Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy
called the house 'a hellhole' that disrupted the entire neighborhood
and endangered the tenants, who paid exorbitant rents. Such conditions
'will not be tolerated,' he said.
The authorities identified Rosalina Dias, 31, of Selden, as the owner
and arrested her on criminal contempt and criminal nuisance charges,
saying she had ignored State Supreme Court orders to comply with
building codes. She pleaded not guilty at her arraignment in Suffolk's
First District Court in Central Islip. She was held in $20,000 bail,
according to the sheriff's department.
Though the tenants were not formally evicted, many left, and on Monday
town inspectors effectively closed the building by posting warning
notices that the building was unsafe and putting yellow tape across the
doors.
Longtime Farmingville residents complain that many immigrants cluster
menacingly on corners waiting for work and that overcrowded houses
generate noise, traffic and garbage and burden local services.
'The conditions were disgusting' in the house, said Councilman James
Tullo of Brookhaven. Officials said the inside was a filthy jumble of
mattresses, clothing and food. Photographs and videotape showed a
collapsing ceiling, overloaded electrical wiring and blocked basement
windows.
The main floor had a kitchen and two bathrooms. That floor and the
basement were crammed with beds and belongings. Outside were two
bicycles, a grill and cases of empty beer bottles in two shopping
carts.
Conditions are as bad or even worse at some of the 117 other houses
that the authorities are investigating, Mr. Tullo said.
Defenders of the immigrant workers say they provide low-cost menial
labor but are often exploited by contractors who pay illegally low
wages with no benefits.
Mr. Ramirez accused Mr. Levy of 'racism' and 'ethnic cleansing.' While
conceding 'horrible conditions' in the house, the minister said the
abrupt enforcement means 'basically there will be 25 or 30 men sleeping
out on the street.'
'There are hundreds and hundreds of mother-daughter apartments and
dozens and dozens of group cottages on Fire Island that are just as
illegal,' Mr. Ramirez said, 'so why does Levy continue to target just
the Latino community?'
A mother-daughter apartment refers to a separate apartment within a
single-family home, which often violate local codes.
Mr. Levy said that social service and charitable agencies would house
anyone who was homeless. 'This was a concentration camp setting,' he
said. 'How do you compare a mother-daughter house with a deathtrap like
this? Reverend Ramirez would be the first extremist holding a press
conference if a fire killed 40 people there.'
In the neighborhood, Dianne Aragones, a child care worker, welcomed the
enforcement after years of disruptions, including contractors honking
their truck horns for workers before 6 a.m.
'With us it's definitely not a racial issue, because I'm Irish and my
husband is Puerto Rican,' she said. 'My heart aches for these men.
They're used and abused. They came for a better life. You can
sympathize - all our ancestors did. But having 50, 60 people in one
house is not good for them or anyone.'
But across the street from the closed house, Jaime Aqueron, an art
teacher, said he had no objections 'They never bothered me, and I never
bothered them,' he said. 'We're fine with them. They're trying to make
a living, like everyone else.'
Iconoclast
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Where's Janet Reno when we need her? She could have sent in the BATF and
burned these people alive like those 83 men, women and children in Waco.
Moderate Mammal
wrote:
More "free market" I suppose.
To those that put prosperity over liberty I only wish the best. In
the next life.
--
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"Don Gabacho" <jpas...@nettaxi.com> wrote in message
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> By Bruce Lambert
> The New York Times, June 21, 2005
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/nyregion/21house.html
>
> FARMINGVILLE, N.Y. -- Long Island law enforcement agents raided and
> closed a small one-family home here that they said had been converted
> into an illegal rooming house jammed with 44 beds and up to 64 male
> occupants.
>
So, did local law enforcement invite BICE to participate in the raid?
> Officials said they are investigating an additional 117 houses for
> illegal overcrowding in this blue-collar suburb, which has been
> polarized in recent years over an influx of thousands of Mexican
> laborers, many of them illegal immigrants who work in the contracting,
> landscaping and service industries.
>
Have the officials notified BICE that their help is needed in completing the
investigations and being present during the upcoming 117 raids of illegal
alien nests?
> The crackdown is the latest front in the battle over immigration here
> that has prompted homeowner protests and even violence. Last year
> Farmingville became the title of an award-winning documentary on the
> struggle.
>
> Shortly after dawn on Sunday, a team of Brookhaven building inspectors
> and fire marshals joined county police in raiding the dilapidated,
> 900-square-foot home at 33 Woodmont Place and found 28 men there. But
> inspectors said they had counted as many as 64 men emerging from the
> house on other mornings in recent weeks.
>
Did they arrest any of the illegal aliens for deportation proceedings? Why
not?
> The tenants paid $225 to $250 a month each for a bunk in the house, the
> police said. Suffolk's district attorney, Thomas J. Spota, estimated
> the gross monthly rent at $9,000.
>
Now there is a prospect that ought to warm David Goldberg's robber baron
heart.
> The site is just a block away from Granny Road, where in July 2003,
> local teenagers set fire to a house with a Mexican family sleeping
> inside. The family barely escaped. Three years before that, two
> out-of-towners pretending to be contractors lured two Mexican tenants
> from the house next door and savagely beat them. In both cases the
> assailants were arrested and convicted.
>
It's a damned shame violence against illegal aliens is so infrequent. It
should be happening daily until every nest of them is eradicated.
> 'It's ground zero,' said Rev. Allan B. Ramirez, an advocate for
> immigrants who was familiar with the house on Woodmont and returned
> there Monday as some occupants removed their belongings.
>
They ought to arrest Ramirez and charge him with conspiracy since he
unabashedly knew about flagrant violations of laws.
> At a news conference on Monday, Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy
> called the house 'a hellhole' that disrupted the entire neighborhood
> and endangered the tenants, who paid exorbitant rents. Such conditions
> 'will not be tolerated,' he said.
>
Then do something about exterminating the illegal aliens in the area.
> The authorities identified Rosalina Dias, 31, of Selden, as the owner
> and arrested her on criminal contempt and criminal nuisance charges,
> saying she had ignored State Supreme Court orders to comply with
> building codes. She pleaded not guilty at her arraignment in Suffolk's
> First District Court in Central Islip. She was held in $20,000 bail,
> according to the sheriff's department.
>
"Not guilty". Damned wetbacks never think they are guilty. I guess it's
just a cultural thing to live stacked like cordwood.
> Though the tenants were not formally evicted, many left, and on Monday
> town inspectors effectively closed the building by posting warning
> notices that the building was unsafe and putting yellow tape across the
> doors.
>
But did they investigate any of the tenants for immigration violations and
deport any of them? If they didn't, all the crimnals will just find another
rat hole to dog pile in.
> Longtime Farmingville residents complain that many immigrants cluster
> menacingly on corners waiting for work and that overcrowded houses
> generate noise, traffic and garbage and burden local services.
>
If the government doesn't start enforcing immigration laws and controlling
our border with Mexico, it is only going to get worse. Farmingville, you
ain't seen nothing yet. Just wait until Mexicans start bragging about the
Mexican border being at the PA state line. You'll think meancing,
overcrowded, noise, traffic and garbage.
> 'The conditions were disgusting' in the house, said Councilman James
> Tullo of Brookhaven. Officials said the inside was a filthy jumble of
> mattresses, clothing and food. Photographs and videotape showed a
> collapsing ceiling, overloaded electrical wiring and blocked basement
> windows.
>
What else does anyone expect from a bunch of third world criminals?
Crossing the border illegally didn't magically imbue them with any concept
of safety or pristine hygeine. Their advocates are only concerned about
what color they are and the people who want them hanging around are only
concerned about profits. Civic responsibility, safety, and following the
law never enters into their equations. And the rest of us are letting the
racist tyrants and profiteers brow beat us.
> The main floor had a kitchen and two bathrooms. That floor and the
> basement were crammed with beds and belongings. Outside were two
> bicycles, a grill and cases of empty beer bottles in two shopping
> carts.
>
Two grocery carts full of empty beer bottles. And they wonder why there was
so many noise complaints from the citizens of Farmington.
> Conditions are as bad or even worse at some of the 117 other houses
> that the authorities are investigating, Mr. Tullo said.
>
No doubt. So, are you going to insist that BICE accompany you on the 117
raids to detain and deport the illegal alien residents who have no respect
for the law, Mr. Tullo?
> Defenders of the immigrant workers say they provide low-cost menial
> labor but are often exploited by contractors who pay illegally low
> wages with no benefits.
>
Then maybe their defenders should be reporting the employers and agitating
for the illegal aliens to be deported in accordance with law instead of
trying to insure the return of slavery to America. The flagrant racism of
their defenders is causing a lot of unnecessary pain and misery for
everybody.
> Mr. Ramirez accused Mr. Levy of 'racism' and 'ethnic cleansing.' While
> conceding 'horrible conditions' in the house, the minister said the
> abrupt enforcement means 'basically there will be 25 or 30 men sleeping
> out on the street.'
>
Mr. Ramirez is as full of crap as a Christmas turkey.
Ethic cleansing would have seen the house boarded up with the illegal aliens
inside and put to the torch.
Why didn't he invite all 30 men to live at his house?
Better yet, why didn't Mr. Ramirez insist that BICE detain and deport all 30
illegal aliens? They wouldn't have been sleeping in the street.
> 'There are hundreds and hundreds of mother-daughter apartments and
> dozens and dozens of group cottages on Fire Island that are just as
> illegal,' Mr. Ramirez said, 'so why does Levy continue to target just
> the Latino community?'
>
Maybe because the people who live in the mother-daughter apartments and
group cottages don't dog pile 64 people into the place and threaten the
other residents in the neighborhood. Maybe because local officials in
Farmington are finally tired of being over run with criminal Mexican illegal
aliens and their racist advocates.
> A mother-daughter apartment refers to a separate apartment within a
> single-family home, which often violate local codes.
>
> Mr. Levy said that social service and charitable agencies would house
> anyone who was homeless. 'This was a concentration camp setting,' he
> said. 'How do you compare a mother-daughter house with a deathtrap like
> this? Reverend Ramirez would be the first extremist holding a press
> conference if a fire killed 40 people there.'
>
Ain't that the God's honest truth. Ramirez would have been jumping up and
down screaming racism for not enforcing zoning code laws if the place had
caught fire and cripy-crittered all of them.
> In the neighborhood, Dianne Aragones, a child care worker, welcomed the
> enforcement after years of disruptions, including contractors honking
> their truck horns for workers before 6 a.m.
> 'With us it's definitely not a racial issue, because I'm Irish and my
> husband is Puerto Rican,' she said. 'My heart aches for these men.
> They're used and abused. They came for a better life. You can
> sympathize - all our ancestors did. But having 50, 60 people in one
> house is not good for them or anyone.'
>
The men living in that hell hole didn't come for a better life. They came
to milk the cow, and are making life miserable for everybody in the process,
themselves included.
> But across the street from the closed house, Jaime Aqueron, an art
> teacher, said he had no objections 'They never bothered me, and I never
> bothered them,' he said. 'We're fine with them. They're trying to make
> a living, like everyone else.'
>
He probably saw some aesthetic value to inspire paintings of peasants in the
third world conditions across the street from him.
Iconoclast
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>
> "Don Gabacho" <jpas...@nettaxi.com> wrote in message
> news:1119468691.6...@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> L.I. Home Held Up to 64 Men, Authorities Say
>> By Bruce Lambert
>> The New York Times, June 21, 2005
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/21/nyregion/21house.html
>>
>> FARMINGVILLE, N.Y. -- Long Island law enforcement agents raided and
>> closed a small one-family home here that they said had been converted
>> into an illegal rooming house jammed with 44 beds and up to 64 male
>> occupants.
>
>
>> Defenders of the immigrant workers say they provide low-cost menial
>> labor but are often exploited by contractors who pay illegally low
>> wages with no benefits.
>>
So defenders of illegal alien workers say they bring wages down to levels of
the Third World and then whine about contractors "who pay illegally low
wages." Does anyone see the hypocrisy here? It's OK with the cheerleaders
for illegal aliens that they break our laws to be here, but not OK for their
criminal employers to break the law by paying the illegal aliens illegally
low wages.
>
> Then maybe their defenders should be reporting the employers and agitating
> for the illegal aliens to be deported in accordance with law instead of
> trying to insure the return of slavery to America. The flagrant racism of
> their defenders is causing a lot of unnecessary pain and misery for
> everybody.
>
>> Mr. Ramirez accused Mr. Levy of 'racism' and 'ethnic cleansing.' While
>> conceding 'horrible conditions' in the house, the minister said the
>> abrupt enforcement means 'basically there will be 25 or 30 men sleeping
>> out on the street.'
>>
>
> Mr. Ramirez is as full of crap as a Christmas turkey.
> Ethic cleansing would have seen the house boarded up with the illegal
> aliens inside and put to the torch.
> Why didn't he invite all 30 men to live at his house?
Right on, sister. You should write to Senor Ramirez and ask him that
question. He is so outraged that rules and zoning regulations are enforced
in the U.S., unlike in the slums of Mexico, Brazil, and South Africa where
the colorful people illegally string wires to their shacks and shit in the
same creeks that provide drinking water.
Good post, LR.