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Barack Hussein Obama was "registered as Muslim Indonesia citizen"

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repo

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Sep 4, 2008, 12:37:19 PM9/4/08
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So Barack Hussein Obama has dual citizenship or only citizenship
from Indonesia? That fake birth certificate Obama has posted on his
web site will not suffice as "proof of US citizenship"..

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm
He was entered into the Roman Catholic, Franciscus Assisi Primary
School, in Jakarta, Indonesia, on January 1, 1968, registered under
the name Barry Soetoro, AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN WHOSE RELIGION WAS
LISTED
AS ISLAM.

Catholic schools accept non-Catholics worldwide. Non-Catholic students
are typically excused from Catholic religious instruction and
ceremony, but are expected to study their own faith.

repo

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Sep 4, 2008, 12:51:20 PM9/4/08
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AP PHOTO OF SCHOOL REGISTER REVEALS
“BARRY SOETORO” AS MUSLIM INDONESIAN

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13056.htm

A 2007 Associated Press photograph, suppressed until now, shows the
school register of the child who is today known as Barack Hussein
Obama but was officially listed then as Barry Soetoro, whose
citizenship was listed as "Indonesian" and whose religion was listed
as "Islam." The visual evidence starkly contradicts the Obama
campaign's claim that he was not a Muslim and confirms that he is a
national of at least one other country.

In addition, it raises the highly problematic issue of what is Obama's
official name. If it turns out to Barry Soetoro, and no official
change of name was ever made, Obama may face an array of charges of
deception and misprision that may throw into doubt, at the very least,
his fitness to run.

Deep doubts remain about the veracity of the "certificate of live
birth" image produced for his campaign by the radical left-wing Daily
Kos blog. There are reports that investigative teams -- from the
Republican and Democratic parties as well as various intelligence
agencies -- are seeking out the details of his murky childhood from
Kenya to Indonesia. There are indications of growing disquiet in the
circles of power that the so-called "smears" may have understated the
gravity of the candidate's identity problem: he may not be American,
he was not raised Christian and, it appears, he was not Barack Hussein
Obama.

The evidence of the candidate's un-American, un-Christian upbringing
is nothing new, and has been documented by bloggers as early as 2007
and by Israel Insider in our very first report on this subject in June
of this year. But until now the photograph of his school record has
been lacking. The image is dated from 2007 and was apparently taken to
accompany an AP article that appeared in January of that year.
Ironically, that article was about how Obama was rejecting the untrue
charge that the public school he attended was a radical Indonesian
madrassa.

Some excerpts:

"We will not be swift-boated," said Obama communications director
Robert Gibbs. "And we won't take allegations that are patently untrue
lying down."

"Obama's mother, divorced from Obama's father, married a man from
Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country
from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus
Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion
of his stepfather. The document required that each student choose one
of five state-sanctioned religions when registering -- Muslim, Hindu,
Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant. Gibbs said he wasn't sure why the
document had Obama listed as a Muslim."

Gibbs may not have been sure, but it appears that the Obama campaign
made sure that this image did not see the light of day, because the
photographic listing of the candidate, even as a child, as an
Indonesian whose religion was Islam was worth, well, a thousand words.
"Senator Obama has never been a Muslim," Gibbs said in the article.
"As a six-year-old in Catholic school, he studied the catechism."

That may be Gibbs' assertion, but evidence from grown-up school chums
of little Barry Soetoro indicates that he studied, and excelled in,
the teachings of the Koran in the original Arabic and could recite the
Shehada, the Islamic article of faith, by heart, and with a decent
tune, according to the New York Times roving columnist Nicholas
Kristof, to whom "Obama" remarked that the sound of the Muslim call to
prayer was one of the world's most beautiful sounds.

The AP article quoted Iis Darmawan, 63, Obama's kindergarten teacher,
who "remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who
quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. 'He
wrote an essay titled, "I Want To Become President,"' the teacher
said." She didn't indicate which country he wanted to become president
of.

The AP caption reads: "This registration document, made available on
Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia,
shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro
into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The
document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August
4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy's
religion as Islam. (AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)" Syuflana is a well-
known and frequently published photographer, specializing in
Indonesia.

A representative of the AP confirmed that the photo is authentic.

The most damaging revelation in the AP photo (registration required to
see the large-scale image. A derived image is here.) may turn out to
be the listing of his name as Barry Soetoro. It has been reported that
he used the name Barack Hussein Obama and failed to mention Barry
Soetoro when asked to provide any former names. (He reportedly also
did not respond honestly when answering negatively to a question
concerning illegal drug use, which he has since admitted.) It is
believed that failure to report his previous name is not an isolated
instance, and may have contributed to the perceived need to
manufacture a forged birth certificate listing Obama's preferred
identity as if it were present from the start.

The listing of Barry Soetoro as a Muslim contradicts what appears on
his campaign's Fight the Smears website, where he says that "I have
never been a Muslim." In a private meeting with Jewish leaders in
February, Obama emphatically re-stated the claim, but with a bit of a
twist, declaring: "I am not, nor have I ever been, a Muslim
(especially an anti-American one)."

Does the candidate protest too much here? Indeed, he is echoing
language used in the 1950s by those who denied Communist ties. No one
is claiming, here, that Obama is anti-American. But the image of his
school registration doesn't lie, and indicates clearly that he was
registered as a Muslim, and thus, despite the claim of his spokesman,
he didn't study the catechism. Barry Soetoro studied the Koran.

This is the tenth of a series on the identity and citizenship of the
candidate who now calls himself Barack Hussein Obama. Here's where you
can find Part 1, 2, 3 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9.

Other articles about Obama are linked on the upper left of this
article

charles bash

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Sep 4, 2008, 3:35:54 PM9/4/08
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You bet your boots Catholic schools accept non-Catholic students. Or at
least they did when they had better "support structures".

There was a Jewish settlement in Philadelphia, which I well know of.
There was a well known Catholic church and parochial school there.

The 'parishioners' were startled one Sunday morning in August, of long
ago, when the priests informed that " a number of Jewish students" were
to be enrolled that September on a "Space available" basis for each
grade level. He exhorted the parents to inform their kids that they are
to "respect" the new "students" and not bother or tease them in any
way.

The reason? The Jewish parents discovered that that the kids attending
that parochial school were Way Ahead in their learning of handwriting,,
spelling,, grammar,, arithmetic etc.! Way Ahead of the local public
school that their Jew kids were attending. That was enough for the
Jewish parents! Who would also pay tuition there to boot! Schmart?.
C. Bash

(( church- school in Northeast Philly at Oxford Circle. Big long Jewish
settlement in row houses to the northeast ))



charles bash

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Sep 4, 2008, 4:22:01 PM9/4/08
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God! what a wonderful find! What a hell-uva-time to have a broken
printer. This character 'kcajyer' might yet redeem himself in polite
society, if for 6 months he doesn't revert back to {{ his earlier life
}} when he was threatening to deport all "European invaders back to
Europe!."

We will certainly have The Turmoil. Where there is All That Smoke!!!
,,,, there is bound to be fire!

I will ask a bumch of questions tomorrow to the appropriate people, and
get back with anything I find.

Don't forget the DHS,, National Emergency Management Regulations" {{ I
beleive that is the correct title }} We might a real live 'workout'
before the election.
C. Bash



charles bash

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Sep 4, 2008, 5:36:01 PM9/4/08
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I stopped in to visit ,,, alt.astrology ,,,, and I left a Challenge
for the most famous,, most educated in astrological matters,, Mr Edmond
Wollmann.

To Mr Wollmann,, Who Is Going To Win The Next Election For President?

Told him I will stop in "from time to time."

I hope he has the time to star gaze. There is a bunch of dedicated kooks
on alt.astrology who among other things have the ttime to Berate
Wollmann without mercy. Every time I ever went there, Wolmann was 'under
attack'
C. Bash



johnny@.

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Sep 4, 2008, 8:31:35 PM9/4/08
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If you want to know who will win, just ask me, because I have never
picked the right person.


--
"Instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English, they'll
learn English; you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish."

Barack Hussein Obama

*us*

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Sep 4, 2008, 10:08:20 PM9/4/08
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