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NEW DELHI — Over the past several years, terrorist attacks in India
have become an everyday presence in everyday places. The targets seem
to have nothing in common except that they are ordinary and brazenly
easy to strike.
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At Least 45 Killed in Explosions in India (July 27, 2008)
The New York Times
In eastern Varanasi, a deadly explosion interrupted Hindu devotees as
they lighted oil lamps to Hanuman, the monkey god, one Tuesday at
dusk. In southern Hyderabad, a homemade bomb planted inside a historic
mosque killed worshipers on a Friday afternoon. In Mumbai, India’s
largest city, nearly 200 commuters on packed city trains died in a
series of blasts.
And, in the most recent attack, 17 back-to-back explosions struck
shoppers and strollers on Saturday evening in Ahmedabad in western
India, and then two blasts hit the very hospitals where the wounded
and their relatives rushed for help, killing 49 people and wounding
more than 200.
In a country long familiar with sharply focused violence — whether
sectarian or fueled by insurgencies in Kashmir in the 1990s — the
impersonal nature of the latest violence is new and deeply
unsettling.
“This is different, because for the first time it’s everyday, it’s
utterly anonymous, it’s excessive,” said Shiv Vishvanathan, a
professor of anthropology in Ahmedabad. “The familiar becomes
unfamiliar,” he said. “The apple seller you meet might be carrying a
bomb. It creates suspicion. It’s a perfect way to destabilize
society.”
Officials have said the attacks are attempts to provoke violence
between Hindus and Muslims that have not succeeded so far. Virtually
none of the attacks have resulted in convictions; a suspect in the
Varanasi bombings was shot and killed by the police.
Reminders of the danger are everywhere. There are metal detectors at
the gates of multiplex movie theaters and commuter trains, and even at
the threshold of prominent temples and mosques. Yet they have had no
bearing on the far greater number of easier, more densely crowded
targets.
India’s congested cities offer rich opportunities. A small bundle of
explosives, hidden as they have been in lunch boxes, pressure cookers
and on the backs of bicycles, can cause grievous damage. It is also
why the attackers have so successfully eluded punishment.
A report last year by the National Counterterrorism Center in
Washington concluded that from January 2004 to March 2007, the death
toll from terrorist attacks in India was 3,674, second only to that in
Iraq during the same period.
Ahmedabad, home to 3.5 million people and Gujarat’s commercial center,
is no stranger to violence. In 2002, a train fire that killed several
dozen Hindus led to the killing of 1,000 Muslims over several days,
one of the worst outbreaks of religious violence in India’s history.
An obscure group calling itself the Indian Mujahedeen warned Saturday
that an attack was about to take place “in revenge of Gujarat,”
plainly referring to the 2002 killings. The statement was sent in an e-
mail message, written in English, to television stations just before
the first blasts.
H. P. Singh, the city’s joint police commissioner, said Sunday that
some of the explosives had been strapped to bicycles in crowded
streets and markets. Later in the evening, a pair of car bombs went
off in front of two city hospitals. At one of them, Civil Hospital,
the dead included husband-and-wife doctors and two sanitation
workers.
The police said two additional bombs had been found and defused, in
Ahmedabad and nearby Gandhinagar, Gujarat’s capital. On Sunday
afternoon, the police found two abandoned cars in Surat, an industrial
city in Gujarat, one stuffed with bomb-making chemicals and
detonators, the other with live bombs. The police said they were still
tracing the cars’ ownership.
On Friday, there was a series of similar low-intensity blasts in
southern Bangalore, one of which killed a woman standing at a bus
stop. Two months ago in Jaipur, synchronized blasts on bicycles killed
56 people; the Indian Mujahedeen sent an e-mail message claiming
credit for those attacks.
On Sunday, a police official, P. P. Pandey, said “a single mind” was
suspected to be behind the three latest attacks. The police said they
had detained people for questioning; The Associated Press reported 30
were in custody. Officials offered no further details about who was
involved in the group or a possible motivation behind the bombings.
The morning after the Ahmedabad blasts, residents of this sprawling
Indian capital pointed out that while it was virtually impossible to
take precautions against terrorist attacks, they had grown
increasingly vigilant of the strangers around them.
Hari Om Suri, 52, stood outside a popular seafood restaurant at the
Defense Colony Market, scanning the parking lot for anything that
looked suspicious.
Mohan and Helen Nanjundan ordered a chicken sizzler for lunch at
Moet’s, a popular restaurant, and warily eyed the bicycles parked
outside. Bicycles, a poor man’s transport here, are common. “Every few
months, there is another one in another city,” said Mr. Nanjundan, 52.
“Sometimes we tell ourselves to stay away from dangerous places, but
it’s hard to say where that is.”
“I’ve never looked at a bicycle before,” said Ms. Nanjundan, 56.
Puneet Gupta, 23, said he was trying to avoid crowded markets, but his
girlfriend, Jyotsna Malhotra, 21, said she was determined not to let
it get in the way of her fun. “We are not sure what is going to happen
tomorrow,” she said. “Better to live today, shop, get him to spend
some money on me.”
Last August, after a pair of synchronized bombs tore through an
amusement park and a fast-food restaurant in Hyderabad, killing at
least 40 people, an Indian newspaper called the violence “a war on the
way we live.”
Hari Kumar contributed reporting.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/world/asia/28india.html
Hari Kumar contributed reporting.
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We've already seen violence like this in the US and the UK -- it's
called islamic terrorism and it's coming to AUS and Canada, it's
only a matter of time.
Frank Pittel
Clearly the fault of Bush.
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: "repo" <kcaj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/world/asia/28india.html
: NEW DELHI ? Over the past several years, terrorist attacks in India
: have become an everyday presence in everyday places. The targets seem
: to have nothing in common except that they are ordinary and brazenly
: easy to strike.
: Skip to next paragraph
: Related
: At Least 45 Killed in Explosions in India (July 27, 2008)
: The New York Times
: In eastern Varanasi, a deadly explosion interrupted Hindu devotees as
: they lighted oil lamps to Hanuman, the monkey god, one Tuesday at
: dusk. In southern Hyderabad, a homemade bomb planted inside a historic
: mosque killed worshipers on a Friday afternoon. In Mumbai, India?s
: largest city, nearly 200 commuters on packed city trains died in a
: series of blasts.
: And, in the most recent attack, 17 back-to-back explosions struck
: shoppers and strollers on Saturday evening in Ahmedabad in western
: India, and then two blasts hit the very hospitals where the wounded
: and their relatives rushed for help, killing 49 people and wounding
: more than 200.
: In a country long familiar with sharply focused violence ? whether
: sectarian or fueled by insurgencies in Kashmir in the 1990s ? the
: impersonal nature of the latest violence is new and deeply
: unsettling.
: ?This is different, because for the first time it?s everyday, it?s
: utterly anonymous, it?s excessive,? said Shiv Vishvanathan, a
: professor of anthropology in Ahmedabad. ?The familiar becomes
: unfamiliar,? he said. ?The apple seller you meet might be carrying a
: bomb. It creates suspicion. It?s a perfect way to destabilize
: society.?
: Officials have said the attacks are attempts to provoke violence
: between Hindus and Muslims that have not succeeded so far. Virtually
: none of the attacks have resulted in convictions; a suspect in the
: Varanasi bombings was shot and killed by the police.
: Reminders of the danger are everywhere. There are metal detectors at
: the gates of multiplex movie theaters and commuter trains, and even at
: the threshold of prominent temples and mosques. Yet they have had no
: bearing on the far greater number of easier, more densely crowded
: targets.
: India?s congested cities offer rich opportunities. A small bundle of
: explosives, hidden as they have been in lunch boxes, pressure cookers
: and on the backs of bicycles, can cause grievous damage. It is also
: why the attackers have so successfully eluded punishment.
: A report last year by the National Counterterrorism Center in
: Washington concluded that from January 2004 to March 2007, the death
: toll from terrorist attacks in India was 3,674, second only to that in
: Iraq during the same period.
: Ahmedabad, home to 3.5 million people and Gujarat?s commercial center,
: is no stranger to violence. In 2002, a train fire that killed several
: dozen Hindus led to the killing of 1,000 Muslims over several days,
: one of the worst outbreaks of religious violence in India?s history.
: An obscure group calling itself the Indian Mujahedeen warned Saturday
: that an attack was about to take place ?in revenge of Gujarat,?
: plainly referring to the 2002 killings. The statement was sent in an e-
: mail message, written in English, to television stations just before
: the first blasts.
: H. P. Singh, the city?s joint police commissioner, said Sunday that
: some of the explosives had been strapped to bicycles in crowded
: streets and markets. Later in the evening, a pair of car bombs went
: off in front of two city hospitals. At one of them, Civil Hospital,
: the dead included husband-and-wife doctors and two sanitation
: workers.
: The police said two additional bombs had been found and defused, in
: Ahmedabad and nearby Gandhinagar, Gujarat?s capital. On Sunday
: afternoon, the police found two abandoned cars in Surat, an industrial
: city in Gujarat, one stuffed with bomb-making chemicals and
: detonators, the other with live bombs. The police said they were still
: tracing the cars? ownership.
: On Friday, there was a series of similar low-intensity blasts in
: southern Bangalore, one of which killed a woman standing at a bus
: stop. Two months ago in Jaipur, synchronized blasts on bicycles killed
: 56 people; the Indian Mujahedeen sent an e-mail message claiming
: credit for those attacks.
: On Sunday, a police official, P. P. Pandey, said ?a single mind? was
: suspected to be behind the three latest attacks. The police said they
: had detained people for questioning; The Associated Press reported 30
: were in custody. Officials offered no further details about who was
: involved in the group or a possible motivation behind the bombings.
: The morning after the Ahmedabad blasts, residents of this sprawling
: Indian capital pointed out that while it was virtually impossible to
: take precautions against terrorist attacks, they had grown
: increasingly vigilant of the strangers around them.
: Hari Om Suri, 52, stood outside a popular seafood restaurant at the
: Defense Colony Market, scanning the parking lot for anything that
: looked suspicious.
: Mohan and Helen Nanjundan ordered a chicken sizzler for lunch at
: Moet?s, a popular restaurant, and warily eyed the bicycles parked
: outside. Bicycles, a poor man?s transport here, are common. ?Every few
: months, there is another one in another city,? said Mr. Nanjundan, 52.
: ?Sometimes we tell ourselves to stay away from dangerous places, but
: it?s hard to say where that is.?
: ?I?ve never looked at a bicycle before,? said Ms. Nanjundan, 56.
: Puneet Gupta, 23, said he was trying to avoid crowded markets, but his
: girlfriend, Jyotsna Malhotra, 21, said she was determined not to let
: it get in the way of her fun. ?We are not sure what is going to happen
: tomorrow,? she said. ?Better to live today, shop, get him to spend
: some money on me.?
: Last August, after a pair of synchronized bombs tore through an
: amusement park and a fast-food restaurant in Hyderabad, killing at
: least 40 people, an Indian newspaper called the violence ?a war on the
: way we live.?
: Hari Kumar contributed reporting.
: ******************************
: We've already seen violence like this in the US and the UK -- it's
: called islamic terrorism and it's coming to AUS and Canada, it's
: only a matter of time.
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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
David Moss
@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com:
> NEW DELHI - Over the past several years, terrorist attacks in India
> have become an everyday presence in everyday places. The targets seem
> to have nothing in common except that they are ordinary and brazenly
> easy to strike.
Thats hardly news. Its been going on for centuries in India.
Are neo-Nazis going to start spamming hate articles about Kali worshipers,
or do you think they will stick to villifying Muslims?
--
David Moss
Personal opinion only
The Australian Politics Resource
http://politics.sunnybar.dynip.com
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wrote:
And this has exactly WHAT to do with immigration in this country,
CRIMINAL MEXICAN PISS-ON?
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> @nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>> NEW DELHI - Over the past several years, terrorist attacks in India
>> have become an everyday presence in everyday places. The targets seem
>> to have nothing in common except that they are ordinary and brazenly
>> easy to strike.
>
> Thats hardly news. Its been going on for centuries in India.
> Are neo-Nazis going to start spamming hate articles about Kali worshipers,
> or do you think they will stick to villifying Muslims?
>
But Hindus aren't committing acts of terrorism against muslime
pigs. I only wish they were.
Pictures of the only nazis Davey supports: the islamonazis:
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/gallery2/v/ffi_gallery/naziism/
john...@hotmail.com
> "David Moss" <q0320...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
India, Pakistan, the Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia,
China, Russia, UK, Spain, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Somalia. Yemen,
Australia, USA, - in fact wherever the religion of peace resides.
David Moss
@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
> But Hindus aren't committing acts of terrorism against muslime
> pigs. I only wish they were.
Google says:
"Results 1 - 10 of about 1,900,000 for Hindu terrorist. (0.35 seconds)"
It would appear you support terrorism as long as it is your enemies rather
than your friends who are the target.
Its not often you get an admission like that on Usenet.
Thanks for playing Dougie.
*us*
>It seems that the author of the book that is critical of Barack Obama
>has a thing for naked nine year old boys.
>
>http://pssht.com/biography/files/jerome_corsi_newspaper.gif
>
>http://pssht.com/biography/jerome_corsi.html
Pedophilia is rampant in the Bush crime family, too.
B J Foster
the Aryan warrior's code, neo-Nazi Skinheads don't like a fair fight.
Cowards by nature, they prefer to travel in packs and gang up on hate
crime victims.
...
In November 2003, the FBI formed a task force with the Riverside and San
Bernardino County sheriff's departments that was designed to crack down
on neo-Nazi Skinhead and other white power gangs in the Inland Empire,
including the High Desert Freak Boys and the Angry Nazi Soldiers.
Since then, the task force has arrested more than 60 individuals
associated with white power hate groups on charges including illegal
weapons possession, drug dealing, and hate crime violence. The task
force has also seized more than 15,000 rounds of ammunition; more than
75 firearms, many of which had been illegally converted to fully
automatic; a half-dozen stolen cars; bulletproof vests; a pharmacopeia
of methamphetamine, hallucinogenic mushrooms, steroids and marijuana;
and enough swastika flags, Hitler youth banners, knock-off SS daggers,
WWII German army helmets, and white supremacist propaganda to fill a
Dumpster".
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=957
Background...
"The Intelligence Project tracks more than 800 hate groups around the
nation. The quarterly Intelligence Report provides comprehensive updates
to law enforcement agencies, the media and the general public".
Jeez, no wonder the US is so obsessed with terrorism. 800 hate groups!
Sir John Howard
BlowJob boy's white supremacists must be responsible.
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Gee, how many terrorist attacks have been committed by these groups?
None. Kinda undercuts your red herring argument doesn't it?
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> "ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in news:cXHrk.20045$89.7460
> @nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>>
>> But Hindus aren't committing acts of terrorism against muslime
>> pigs. I only wish they were.
>
> Google says:
> "Results 1 - 10 of about 1,900,000 for Hindu terrorist. (0.35 seconds)"
>
> It would appear you support terrorism as long as it is your enemies rather
> than your friends who are the target.
>
> Its not often you get an admission like that on Usenet.
> Thanks for playing Dougie.
>
I'm crying on the inside but laughing on the outside.
Any time you want to arrest me come and get some.
ralph
wrote:
>"CHINO HILLS, Calif. -- Despite all their big talk of honor, pride and
>the Aryan warrior's code, neo-Nazi Skinheads don't like a fair fight.
>Cowards by nature, they prefer to travel in packs and gang up on hate
>crime victims.
>
Pretty sure Serge (aka "bringyagrogalong") lives around Mt. Druitt
NSW.
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> "CHINO HILLS, Calif. -- Despite all their big talk of honor, pride and the
> Aryan warrior's code, neo-Nazi Skinheads don't like a fair fight. Cowards
> by nature, they prefer to travel in packs and gang up on hate crime
> victims.
>
I'd love to see you say that to a new member of the Aryan Br0therh00d, you
would be breathing, eating and drinking thru a straw for the rest of your
days -- if you survived.
> ...
>
> In November 2003, the FBI formed a task force with the Riverside and San
> Bernardino County sheriff's departments that was designed to crack down on
> neo-Nazi Skinhead and other white power gangs in the Inland Empire,
> including the High Desert Freak Boys and the Angry Nazi Soldiers.
>
No mention of the Nazi Low Riders eh?
David Moss
>
> "David Moss" <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
> news:Xns9B0375FAE7174q0...@61.9.191.5...
>> "ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in news:cXHrk.20045$89.7460
>> @nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:
>>
>>>
>>> But Hindus aren't committing acts of terrorism against muslime
>>> pigs. I only wish they were.
>>
>> Google says:
>> "Results 1 - 10 of about 1,900,000 for Hindu terrorist. (0.35
>> seconds)"
>>
>> It would appear you support terrorism as long as it is your enemies
>> rather than your friends who are the target.
>>
>> Its not often you get an admission like that on Usenet.
>> Thanks for playing Dougie.
>>
>
> I'm crying on the inside but laughing on the outside.
>
> Any time you want to arrest me come and get some.
I think I've mentioned that I don't do that kind of thing any more.
Of course its people like you who made it fun when I did.
Just in case lightning does strike twice what would you prefer, CS or
Tazer? Or do you have some sort of Hollywood fantasy that the cops fight
fair?
David Moss
The only terrorist attacks inside Australia in recent years have been
conducted by neo-Nazi gangs. Just because your Nazis are inept doesn't
mean they are not dangerous.
David Moss
> "B J Foster" <bjfo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:g8nrqh$604$1...@aioe.org...
>> "CHINO HILLS, Calif. -- Despite all their big talk of honor, pride
>> and the Aryan warrior's code, neo-Nazi Skinheads don't like a fair
>> fight. Cowards by nature, they prefer to travel in packs and gang up
>> on hate crime victims.
>>
>
> I'd love to see you say that to a new member of the Aryan Br0therh00d,
> you would be breathing, eating and drinking thru a straw for the rest
> of your days -- if you survived.
You must have tougher Skinheads in your part of the world Dougie.
here's one we prepared earlier...
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/12/12/cronulla_thmb_narrowweb__
300x310,0.jpg
>> In November 2003, the FBI formed a task force with the Riverside and
>> San Bernardino County sheriff's departments that was designed to
>> crack down on neo-Nazi Skinhead and other white power gangs in the
>> Inland Empire, including the High Desert Freak Boys and the Angry
>> Nazi Soldiers.
>>
>
> No mention of the Nazi Low Riders eh?
The most active Nazi organisation in the USA is the Minneapolis-based
National Socialist Movement (NSM).
NSM Profile
Leader: Jeff Schoep
Founded: 1974 by Robert Brannen and Cliff Herrington
Ideology: Neo-Nazi
Mission Statement: NSM calls for a "greater America" that would deny
citizenship to Jews, non-whites, and homosexuals.
Composition: Mostly young, including racist skinheads; some older members
of the American Nazi Party of the 1960s.
Structure: It has a vaguely paramilitary structure, with military ranks
for its members.
Character: One of the most explicitly "Nazi-like" neo-Nazi groups,
emulating the uniforms and paraphernalia of the Third Reich.
Outreach: NSM Magazine, Web site, literature distribution, conferences
and rallies
NSM has outpaced other anti-Semitic groups in both membership and
activity.
NSM Activity
NSM has chapters in 32 states.
NSM has absorbed members from various racist and skinhead groups.
The group's activities, ranging from literature distribution to raucous
rallies, have proven popular among these young recruits.
NSM has a growing Internet presence that includes online radio and a
"news service" geared to white supremacists.
NSM launched its own in-house white power music label, NSM Records.
NSM plans to release an anti-Semitic video game called "ZOG's
Nightmare," whose object is to kill minorities and Jews. ZOG is a racist
abbreviation for "Zionist Occupied Government."
The NSM holds public events in various cities while dressed in full Nazi
regalia and shouting "Seig Heil!" NSM members wear Nazi uniforms and
openly display swastikas to a degree unusual even among white
supremacists.
Other hate groups include:
American Nazi Party
Aryan Nations
Aryan Brotherhood
Creativity Movement
Jew Watch
Ku Klux Klan
Libertarian National Socialist Green Party
National Alliance
National Independents Movement
National Socialist Party of America
NSDAP-AO
Overthrow.com (Bill White)
Stormfront.org
White Aryan Resistance
Polly the Parrot
<q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote:
> The only terrorist attacks inside Australia in recent years have been
> conducted by neo-Nazi gangs.
What were those, David?
David Moss
news:20080823165...@linux-k6os.site:
Aside from the Hilton Hotel bombing, which no-one knows who did it, the
worst terrorist attacks in Oz were a series of firebomb attacks against
Asian businesses by neo-Nazis. More recently an arson and graffiti attack
on a home and business in Brisbane was done by the neo-Nazis. In 1974 Jim
Saleam, was found guilty of firebombing a left-wing Brisbane bookshop.
There is an interesting film clip that explains Australia's neo-Nazis at
http://australianscreen.com.au/titles/nazi-supergrass/clip3/
"This clip shows members of the neo-Nazi Australian Nationalist Movement
(ANM) outlining the justification used by ANM to conduct a campaign of
racial terror in Western Australia in the 1980s. It includes footage of
Jack van Tongeren, leader of the ANM, explaining to journalists that the
ANM stands for ‘white Australia’ and will go to any lengths to ‘save’ the
nation. Russell Dean Willey, a former member of the ANM who became a
police informant, explains how van Tongeren’s mantra, ‘He who saves his
nation does not break the law’, was drummed into ANM recruits and enabled
them to see themselves as ‘political soldiers’ rather than criminals.
The Australian Nationalist Movement (ANM) is a neo-Nazi group that, in
the late 1980s, conducted a campaign of racial terror in Perth aimed at
Asian, Jewish and Indigenous Australians that included verbal and
physical assault and the firebombing of a number of Asian restaurants.
The ANM also spray-painted racist graffiti on synagogues and businesses
owned by Jewish and Asian Australians, as well as producing posters that
racially vilified these people and called for their expulsion from
Australia. The group funded its activities by robbing warehouses."
Do you support this kind of thing?
I don't.
Polly the Parrot
<q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote:
> Do you support this kind of thing?
No, of course not.
FACE
<q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large for all
to see:
>"ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in news:cXHrk.20045$89.7460
>@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>>
>> But Hindus aren't committing acts of terrorism against muslime
>> pigs. I only wish they were.
>
>Google says:
>"Results 1 - 10 of about 1,900,000 for Hindu terrorist. (0.35 seconds)"
>
>It would appear you support terrorism as long as it is your enemies rather
>than your friends who are the target.
>
>Its not often you get an admission like that on Usenet.
>Thanks for playing Dougie.
Google also say:
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,370,000 for australian terrorism. (0.36 seconds)
Search Results
-- or even:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,100,000 for moss terrorism. (0.15 seconds)
-- or to put an even finer point on it:
Results 1 - 10 of about 80,500 for david moss terrorism. (0.31 seconds)
It isn't often that you are this stupid, Thanks for the reminder,
though.............
FACE
FACE
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>ßDoüg±Ç wrote:
>> "repo" <kcaj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:d5d8580d-c9da-4727...@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/world/asia/28india.html
>>
>> NEW DELHI ? Over the past several years, terrorist attacks in India
>> have become an everyday presence in everyday places. The targets seem
>> to have nothing in common except that they are ordinary and brazenly
>> easy to strike.
>>
>> Skip to next paragraph
>> Related
>> At Least 45 Killed in Explosions in India (July 27, 2008)
>>
>> The New York Times
>> In eastern Varanasi, a deadly explosion interrupted Hindu devotees as
>> they lighted oil lamps to Hanuman, the monkey god, one Tuesday at
>> dusk. In southern Hyderabad, a homemade bomb planted inside a historic
>> mosque killed worshipers on a Friday afternoon. In Mumbai, India?s
>> largest city, nearly 200 commuters on packed city trains died in a
>> series of blasts.
>>
>> And, in the most recent attack, 17 back-to-back explosions struck
>> shoppers and strollers on Saturday evening in Ahmedabad in western
>> India, and then two blasts hit the very hospitals where the wounded
>> and their relatives rushed for help, killing 49 people and wounding
>> more than 200.
>>
>> In a country long familiar with sharply focused violence ? whether
>> sectarian or fueled by insurgencies in Kashmir in the 1990s ? the
>> impersonal nature of the latest violence is new and deeply
>> unsettling.
>>
>> ?This is different, because for the first time it?s everyday, it?s
>> utterly anonymous, it?s excessive,? said Shiv Vishvanathan, a
>> professor of anthropology in Ahmedabad. ?The familiar becomes
>> unfamiliar,? he said. ?The apple seller you meet might be carrying a
>> bomb. It creates suspicion. It?s a perfect way to destabilize
>> society.?
>>
>> Officials have said the attacks are attempts to provoke violence
>> between Hindus and Muslims that have not succeeded so far. Virtually
>> none of the attacks have resulted in convictions; a suspect in the
>> Varanasi bombings was shot and killed by the police.
>>
>> Reminders of the danger are everywhere. There are metal detectors at
>> the gates of multiplex movie theaters and commuter trains, and even at
>> the threshold of prominent temples and mosques. Yet they have had no
>> bearing on the far greater number of easier, more densely crowded
>> targets.
>>
>> India?s congested cities offer rich opportunities. A small bundle of
>> explosives, hidden as they have been in lunch boxes, pressure cookers
>> and on the backs of bicycles, can cause grievous damage. It is also
>> why the attackers have so successfully eluded punishment.
>>
>> A report last year by the National Counterterrorism Center in
>> Washington concluded that from January 2004 to March 2007, the death
>> toll from terrorist attacks in India was 3,674, second only to that in
>> Iraq during the same period.
>>
>> Ahmedabad, home to 3.5 million people and Gujarat?s commercial center,
>> is no stranger to violence. In 2002, a train fire that killed several
>> dozen Hindus led to the killing of 1,000 Muslims over several days,
>> one of the worst outbreaks of religious violence in India?s history.
>>
>> An obscure group calling itself the Indian Mujahedeen warned Saturday
>> that an attack was about to take place ?in revenge of Gujarat,?
>> plainly referring to the 2002 killings. The statement was sent in an e-
>> mail message, written in English, to television stations just before
>> the first blasts.
>>
>> H. P. Singh, the city?s joint police commissioner, said Sunday that
>> some of the explosives had been strapped to bicycles in crowded
>> streets and markets. Later in the evening, a pair of car bombs went
>> off in front of two city hospitals. At one of them, Civil Hospital,
>> the dead included husband-and-wife doctors and two sanitation
>> workers.
>>
>> The police said two additional bombs had been found and defused, in
>> Ahmedabad and nearby Gandhinagar, Gujarat?s capital. On Sunday
>> afternoon, the police found two abandoned cars in Surat, an industrial
>> city in Gujarat, one stuffed with bomb-making chemicals and
>> detonators, the other with live bombs. The police said they were still
>> tracing the cars? ownership.
>>
>> On Friday, there was a series of similar low-intensity blasts in
>> southern Bangalore, one of which killed a woman standing at a bus
>> stop. Two months ago in Jaipur, synchronized blasts on bicycles killed
>> 56 people; the Indian Mujahedeen sent an e-mail message claiming
>> credit for those attacks.
>>
>> On Sunday, a police official, P. P. Pandey, said ?a single mind? was
>> suspected to be behind the three latest attacks. The police said they
>> had detained people for questioning; The Associated Press reported 30
>> were in custody. Officials offered no further details about who was
>> involved in the group or a possible motivation behind the bombings.
>>
>> The morning after the Ahmedabad blasts, residents of this sprawling
>> Indian capital pointed out that while it was virtually impossible to
>> take precautions against terrorist attacks, they had grown
>> increasingly vigilant of the strangers around them.
>>
>> Hari Om Suri, 52, stood outside a popular seafood restaurant at the
>> Defense Colony Market, scanning the parking lot for anything that
>> looked suspicious.
>>
>> Mohan and Helen Nanjundan ordered a chicken sizzler for lunch at
>> Moet?s, a popular restaurant, and warily eyed the bicycles parked
>> outside. Bicycles, a poor man?s transport here, are common. ?Every few
>> months, there is another one in another city,? said Mr. Nanjundan, 52.
>> ?Sometimes we tell ourselves to stay away from dangerous places, but
>> it?s hard to say where that is.?
>>
>> ?I?ve never looked at a bicycle before,? said Ms. Nanjundan, 56.
>>
>> Puneet Gupta, 23, said he was trying to avoid crowded markets, but his
>> girlfriend, Jyotsna Malhotra, 21, said she was determined not to let
>> it get in the way of her fun. ?We are not sure what is going to happen
>> tomorrow,? she said. ?Better to live today, shop, get him to spend
>> some money on me.?
>>
>> Last August, after a pair of synchronized bombs tore through an
>> amusement park and a fast-food restaurant in Hyderabad, killing at
>> least 40 people, an Indian newspaper called the violence ?a war on the
>> way we live.?
>>
>> Hari Kumar contributed reporting.
>>
>> ******************************
>> We've already seen violence like this in the US and the UK -- it's
>> called islamic terrorism and it's coming to AUS and Canada, it's
>> only a matter of time.
>
>BlowJob boy's white supremacists must be responsible.
I read that in the middle centuries when muslims finally got around to
wondering what was in the hindu and buddhist libraries they found they had
murdered everyone who was capable of reading the books..........
FACE
FACE
to see:
>"ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in news:cXHrk.20045$89.7460
>@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:
>
>>
>> But Hindus aren't committing acts of terrorism against muslime
>> pigs. I only wish they were.
>
>Google says:
>"Results 1 - 10 of about 1,900,000 for Hindu terrorist. (0.35 seconds)"
>
>It would appear you support terrorism as long as it is your enemies rather
>than your friends who are the target.
>
>Its not often you get an admission like that on Usenet.
>Thanks for playing Dougie.
ßDoüg±Ç
news:62e0b4lm2fc3usdnl...@4ax.com...
I'm glad you're on our side FACE!
B J Foster
B J Foster
> "B J Foster" <bjfo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:g8nrqh$604$1...@aioe.org...
>> "CHINO HILLS, Calif. -- Despite all their big talk of honor, pride and the
>> Aryan warrior's code, neo-Nazi Skinheads don't like a fair fight. Cowards
>> by nature, they prefer to travel in packs and gang up on hate crime
>> victims.
>>
>
> I'd love to see you say that to a new member of the Aryan Br0therh00d, you
> would be breathing, eating and drinking thru a straw for the rest of your
> days -- if you survived.
BFD. They are basically bullies - all noise and bravado when in the pack
but wimpering ninnies otherwise.
In any case, that particular comment was from the author. You have
trouble reading don't you?
This was what the *law* had to say about it:
"Sixty years after the discovery of Auschwitz, I'm amazed we're still
fighting this garbage in our country"
(San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department)
"Hate groups such as these endanger lives. These types of people are
trying to find a refuge here, and we're trying to stop it"
(Riverside County Sheriff)
Trying to find refuge???
Tough guys huh? Refuge from who or what?
>
>> ...
>>
>> In November 2003, the FBI formed a task force with the Riverside and San
>> Bernardino County sheriff's departments that was designed to crack down on
>> neo-Nazi Skinhead and other white power gangs in the Inland Empire,
>> including the High Desert Freak Boys and the Angry Nazi Soldiers.
>>
>
> No mention of the Nazi Low Riders eh?
>
>
http://blog.blinkenarea.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/follow.your.leader.jpg
David Moss
news:b1a0b4dbv2h2n1mng...@4ax.com:
On the other hand neo-Nazi spammers are stupid more often than not.
Lets look at the first page of Google results for "hindu terrorism"
Hindu TerrorismPost 9-11 winter of 2002, while the West worries Over
Islamic fundamentalists, India's nationalists thrive by stirring up
murderous anti-Muslim frenzy.
www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/joe/reuben.html - 2k - Cached - Similar pages
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Hindu Terrorism by ReshmaThe violent uprooting of millions of Hindus and
Muslims across the borders of India and Pakistan had tainted the freedom
from colonial rule that he had so ...
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pages - Note this
Is it ‘Hindu terrorism’? | Indian Muslims BlogTwo days back LTTE suicide
bombers attacked a naval base in Sri Lanka killing at least 103 and
injuring another 150, a news that did not find much ...
indianmuslims.in/is-it-hindu-terrorism/ - 71k - Cached - Similar pages -
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Silent Emergence Of Hindu Terrorism By Subhash Gatade29 Jun 2008 ... And
today according to informed sources the whole issue of bomb making
factory and bursting of a Hindu terrorist module lies buried under ...
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[Reader-List] relay :: Re: [Reader-list] Hindu terrorism in Jammu23 Aug
2008 ... From the list on Media and the City, Information Politics and
Contemporary Culture.
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reply to NKRISHNA - hindu terrorism - Reader comments at ...reply to
NKRISHNA - hindu terrorism - Reader comments at DanielPipes.org.
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this
Hindu Terrorism « National Highway- 23 Aug25 Dec 2006 ... The report says
that Panse was “pained” by the terrorist attacks in Delhi and Varanasi.
He felt that Hindus would be “treated as hijras” if ...
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YouTube - Tamil Hindu Terrorism in France
How the Tamil Tigers procure money for their activities in ...
11 min -
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HKKn8m7Kd4
The Hindu : Terrorism — shifting paradigmRepublication or redissemination
of the contents of this screen are expressly prohibited without the
written consent of The Hindu.
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Hindu terrorism in Jammu TaraPrakash (3k). Re: [Reader-list] Hindu
terrorism in Jammu Aditya Raj Kaul (4k) ...
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ßDoüg±Ç
The website that I referred to in my A Hindu perspective on the ugliness
that is islam
post the other day has an interesting and compelling argument that the Taj
Mahal
was NEVER an islamonazi structure at all -- it was built by Hindus and then
defaced &
vandalized once the muslime pigs took over.
The website is http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/ . It's author is an
Indian
Hindu.
It has some ugly stats on the number of Hindu temples that were destroyed
and/or
converted to mosques by muslim fucks, the count is in the tens of thousands.
Wanderer
> The website that I referred to in my A Hindu perspective on the ugliness
> that is islam
> post the other day has an interesting and compelling argument that the Taj
> Mahal
> was NEVER an islamonazi structure at all -- it was built by Hindus and then
> defaced &
> vandalized once the muslime pigs took over.
>
> The website is http://www.flex.com/~jal/satyamevajayate/ . It's author is an
> Indian
> Hindu.
No, the author is a thoroughly discredited hatemonger calling himself
"Jai Maharaj"(originally Jay Stevens) who claims to be an asstrolloger.
The targets of his hate run the gamut from Muslims to Christians to Jews
to gays to anybody who opposes his extremist Hindu right-wing agenda(or,
rather, the agenda of the people who pay him to do this).
As for the Taj Mahal, there is no credible evidence to show that it was
ever a Hindu temple. This fantasy was created by a delirious anti-Muslim
named P. N. Oak. The ultimate rebuttal of this fantasy is an actual
visit to the Taj Mahal, where you can examine the "evidence" put forth
by Oak.
You should read this:
http://stopfundinghate.org/actions/press/112002.htm
http://www.secularindia.com/articles/2008/07/EmergenceHinduTerrorism.html
That is what "Jai Maharaj" is engaged in. And he is not a Hindu, Indian
or otherwise.
tbj....@yahoo.com
> ßDoüg±Ç <noün...@now.com> wrote:
> > The website that I referred to in my A Hindu perspective on the ugliness
> > that is islam
> > post the other day has an interesting and compelling argument that the Taj
> > Mahal
> > was NEVER an islamonazi structure at all -- it was built by Hindus and then
> > defaced &
> > vandalized once the muslime pigs took over.
>
> > Indian
> > Hindu.
>
> No, the author is a thoroughly discredited hatemonger calling himself
> "Jai Maharaj"(originally Jay Stevens) who claims to be an asstrolloger.
> The targets of his hate run the gamut from Muslims to Christians to Jews
> to gays to anybody who opposes his extremist Hindu right-wing agenda(or,
> rather, the agenda of the people who pay him to do this).
>
> As for the Taj Mahal, there is no credible evidence to show that it was
> ever a Hindu temple. This fantasy was created by a delirious anti-Muslim
> named P. N. Oak. The ultimate rebuttal of this fantasy is an actual
> visit to the Taj Mahal, where you can examine the "evidence" put forth
> by Oak.
>
That's a laugh. All churches support missionaries' hatred of Hinduism
with billions of dollars every year. But 'stopfundinghate' suggests
that Hindus are the ones who hate. Hohohoho.
http://www.christianaggression.org/
And this time, argue the message not the messenger website.
> That is what "Jai Maharaj" is engaged in. And he is not a Hindu, Indian
> or otherwise.
Argue his messages, not his alleged identity.
spna...@gmail.com
religious monument/temple/symbol that had no muslim connection before
barbarian mohammadans arrived on the scene, and then which 'magically'
became a muslim structure afterwords were available and widely known
about.
Oh wait!
I have 2 such structures! The Hagia Sofia in Constantinople
("Istanbul") and the Temple Mount in Israel - BOTH of which muslims
claim as their own.
Nah, muslims would never tear down an indigenous structure and put one
up to reflect their Arab slavery to the world! That would never
happen, right???
ßDoüg±Ç
news:5z4sk.599$w51.389@trnddc01...
> ßDoüg±Ç <noün...@now.com> wrote:
>
>
>> The website that I referred to in my A Hindu perspective on the ugliness
>> that is islam
>> post the other day has an interesting and compelling argument that the
>> Taj Mahal
>> was NEVER an islamonazi structure at all -- it was built by Hindus and
>> then defaced &
>> vandalized once the muslime pigs took over.
>>
>> The website is http://www.flex.com/~jal/satyamevajayate/ . It's author is
>> an Indian
>> Hindu.
>
> No, the author is a thoroughly discredited hatemonger calling himself "Jai
> Maharaj"(originally Jay Stevens) who claims to be an asstrolloger. The
> targets of his hate run the gamut from Muslims to Christians to Jews to
> gays to anybody who opposes his extremist Hindu right-wing agenda(or,
> rather, the agenda of the people who pay him to do this).
>
Of course I'm just supposed to believe your Al Taqiyya lies aren't I?
Some people like to see proof. Muslimes seem to confuse accusations
w/proof.
> As for the Taj Mahal, there is no credible evidence to show that it was
> ever a Hindu temple. This fantasy was created by a delirious anti-Muslim
> named P. N. Oak. The ultimate rebuttal of this fantasy is an actual visit
> to the Taj Mahal, where you can examine the "evidence" put forth by Oak.
>
Aw, gee, the website I referred to has ample evidence that it is indeed
the truth muslime piggy.
> You should read this:
> http://stopfundinghate.org/actions/press/112002.htm
> http://www.secularindia.com/articles/2008/07/EmergenceHinduTerrorism.html
>
> That is what "Jai Maharaj" is engaged in. And he is not a Hindu, Indian or
> otherwise.
The hatred of muslime pigs is well justified.
ßDoüg±Ç
Pictures of the REAL nazis of the 21st century: the islamonazis:
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/gallery2/v/ffi_gallery/naziism/
David Moss
@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com:
> Pictures of the REAL nazis of the 21st century:
http://noticethings.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/spam.jpg
FACE
>"ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in news:YBjsk.8511$cn7.7415
>@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com:
>
>> Pictures of the REAL nazis of the 21st century:
>
>http://noticethings.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/spam.jpg
So http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/gallery2/v/ffi_gallery/naziism/
scares you, eh?
Why is that? Is the truth too hard for you to bear?
"Mein Kampf" is a best seller in islamic countries. Do you deny that? Does
that give you a clue as to where the nazis have revived?
Let's hear the one about the 'tiny minority' again -- that's one of my
favorites.................
FACE
David Moss
news:jm86b4197rh0fo6k1...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:11:12 GMT in uk.politics.misc, David Moss
> <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large for
> all to see:
>
>>"ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in news:YBjsk.8511$cn7.7415
>>@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com:
>>
>>> Pictures of the REAL nazis of the 21st century:
>>
>>http://noticethings.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/spam.jpg
>
> So http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/gallery2/v/ffi_gallery/naziism/
> scares you, eh?
Why would pictures posted on the Internet by the Mujahadeen e-Khalk
frighten me?
> Why is that? Is the truth too hard for you to bear?
> "Mein Kampf" is a best seller in islamic countries. Do you deny that?
> Does that give you a clue as to where the nazis have revived?
Actually I'm keen to see a cite backing that claim. I don't believe Mein
Kampf has been a best seller anywhere since 1945.
> Let's hear the one about the 'tiny minority' again -- that's one of my
> favorites.................
OK. Just for you.
A tiny majority of the population of western countries are extreme right
wing nationalists, sometimes called neo-Nazis.
Happy now?
FACE
>FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in
>news:jm86b4197rh0fo6k1...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:11:12 GMT in uk.politics.misc, David Moss
>> <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large for
>> all to see:
>>
>>>"ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in news:YBjsk.8511$cn7.7415
>>>@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com:
>>>
>>>> Pictures of the REAL nazis of the 21st century:
>>>
>>>http://noticethings.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/spam.jpg
>>
>> So http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/gallery2/v/ffi_gallery/naziism/
>> scares you, eh?
>
>
>Why would pictures posted on the Internet by the Mujahadeen e-Khalk
>frighten me?
It was obvious that you were so scared of pictures showing the islamonazis
as nazis and nazi-like that you tried to cover the URL up and make it go
away.
>
>> Why is that? Is the truth too hard for you to bear?
>> "Mein Kampf" is a best seller in islamic countries. Do you deny that?
>> Does that give you a clue as to where the nazis have revived?
>
>Actually I'm keen to see a cite backing that claim. I don't believe Mein
>Kampf has been a best seller anywhere since 1945.
>
"As if" you did not know that.
Okay, I'll play, try http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4361733.stm
enter mein kampf best seller in muslim countries and get many
*relevant* hits along with some junk.
>> Let's hear the one about the 'tiny minority' again -- that's one of my
>> favorites.................
>
>
>
>OK. Just for you.
>A tiny majority of the population of western countries are extreme right
>wing nationalists, sometimes called neo-Nazis.
>Happy now?
That just doesn't have the same ring to it -- must be getting stale.
So you are saying that all nationalists are 'right-wing'?
Where is your further 'balance' for the article on the islamic suicide
bombers of last friday that I posted? Was it the Afghani-led attack that
you blamed solely on the US? That was supposed to "balance" the first.
For someone who touts himself as superior to everybody else, you aren't
doing too well, Davey.............
Chop,chop, now!
FACE
Wanderer
No, it does not suggest that "Hindus are the ones who hate". Rather, it
states(rather than "suggests") that the sangh parivar are the ones who
hate and, more importantly, use violence in furtherance of that hate.
> http://www.christianaggression.org/
>
> And this time, argue the message not the messenger website.
There is no message other than a pervasive expression of hatred. All it
has are a collection of stories that have been discredited on Usenet
over the past 17 years, along with a handful of more recent stories spun
appropriately to their agenda.
>> That is what "Jai Maharaj" is engaged in. And he is not a Hindu, Indian
>> or otherwise.
>
> Argue his messages, not his alleged identity.
He has been thoroughly discredited over the past 17 years, newbie. Only
saffron hatemongers like yourself still stick your heads up his aged
asshole.
Wanderer
> "Wanderer" <n...@there.yet> wrote in message
> news:5z4sk.599$w51.389@trnddc01...
>> ßDoüg±Ç <noün...@now.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The website that I referred to in my A Hindu perspective on the ugliness
>>> that is islam
>>> post the other day has an interesting and compelling argument that the
>>> Taj Mahal
>>> was NEVER an islamonazi structure at all -- it was built by Hindus and
>>> then defaced &
>>> vandalized once the muslime pigs took over.
>>>
>>> The website is http://www.flex.com/~jal/satyamevajayate/ . It's author is
>>> an Indian
>>> Hindu.
>> No, the author is a thoroughly discredited hatemonger calling himself "Jai
>> Maharaj"(originally Jay Stevens) who claims to be an asstrolloger. The
>> targets of his hate run the gamut from Muslims to Christians to Jews to
>> gays to anybody who opposes his extremist Hindu right-wing agenda(or,
>> rather, the agenda of the people who pay him to do this).
>>
>
> Of course I'm just supposed to believe your Al Taqiyya lies aren't I?
> Some people like to see proof. Muslimes seem to confuse accusations
> w/proof.
You seem perfectly capable of swallowing Jay's lies without any proof.
>> As for the Taj Mahal, there is no credible evidence to show that it was
>> ever a Hindu temple. This fantasy was created by a delirious anti-Muslim
>> named P. N. Oak. The ultimate rebuttal of this fantasy is an actual visit
>> to the Taj Mahal, where you can examine the "evidence" put forth by Oak.
>>
>
> Aw, gee, the website I referred to has ample evidence that it is indeed
> the truth muslime piggy.
First of all, little Doogie, I'm not Muslim. Secondly, dig a little
deeper into Jay's Den of Hate, and you will find ample "proof" of what
shitheads Christians, Americans, British, Australians etc. really are.
The truth according to Jay is that "Muslimes", as you call them, and
Christians, and white people in general should be exterminated for the
good of mankind.
>> You should read this:
>> http://stopfundinghate.org/actions/press/112002.htm
>> http://www.secularindia.com/articles/2008/07/EmergenceHinduTerrorism.html
>>
>> That is what "Jai Maharaj" is engaged in. And he is not a Hindu, Indian or
>> otherwise.
>
> The hatred of muslime pigs is well justified.
As is the hatred of white Christians, perhaps?
tbj....@yahoo.com
> ßDoüg±Ç wrote:
> > "Wanderer" <n...@there.yet> wrote in message
> >news:5z4sk.599$w51.389@trnddc01...
> >> ßDoüg±Ç <noün...@now.com> wrote:
>
> >>> The website that I referred to in my A Hindu perspective on the ugliness
> >>> that is islam
> >>> post the other day has an interesting and compelling argument that the
> >>> Taj Mahal
> >>> was NEVER an islamonazi structure at all -- it was built by Hindus and
> >>> then defaced &
> >>> vandalized once the muslime pigs took over.
>
> >>> an Indian
> >>> Hindu.
> >> No, the author is a thoroughly discredited hatemonger calling himself "Jai
> >> Maharaj"(originally Jay Stevens) who claims to be an asstrolloger. The
> >> targets of his hate run the gamut from Muslims to Christians to Jews to
> >> gays to anybody who opposes his extremist Hindu right-wing agenda(or,
> >> rather, the agenda of the people who pay him to do this).
>
> > Of course I'm just supposed to believe your Al Taqiyya lies aren't I?
> > Some people like to see proof. Muslimes seem to confuse accusations
> > w/proof.
>
> You seem perfectly capable of swallowing Jay's lies without any proof.
>
> >> As for the Taj Mahal, there is no credible evidence to show that it was
> >> ever a Hindu temple. This fantasy was created by a delirious anti-Muslim
> >> named P. N. Oak. The ultimate rebuttal of this fantasy is an actual visit
> >> to the Taj Mahal, where you can examine the "evidence" put forth by Oak.
>
> > Aw, gee, the website I referred to has ample evidence that it is indeed
> > the truth muslime piggy.
>
> First of all, little Doogie, I'm not Muslim. Secondly, dig a little
> deeper into Jay's Den of Hate, and you will find ample "proof" of what
> shitheads Christians, Americans, British, Australians etc. really are.
> The truth according to Jay is that "Muslimes", as you call them, and
> Christians, and white people in general should be exterminated for the
> good of mankind.
Why don't you save Doug the trouble of 'digging' and present some
evidence yourself?
Or shut up.
Don't you think that this is a reasonable request?
> >> You should read this:
> >>http://stopfundinghate.org/actions/press/112002.htm
> >>http://www.secularindia.com/articles/2008/07/EmergenceHinduTerrorism....
Wanderer
> Why don't you save Doug the trouble of 'digging' and present some
> evidence yourself?
> Or shut up.
> Don't you think that this is a reasonable request?
No, it is not a reasonable request. He/she claimed he found a certain
"interesting and compelling" argument. I merely asked that he/she read
other "interesting and compelling" arguments to be found on the same
website.
Your response indicates maliciousness, and nothing more.
ßDoüg±Ç
No it indicates you have no proof whatsoever for your Al Taqiyya lies.
Kope
Be kind to fellow human being and animal, in return God will reward
us glorious life in paradise.
How to achieves a happy life in this world and in the hereafter?
What is the purpose of life ?
What does God want from us?
What is the key to Heaven?
What kind of people will enter Heaven {Paradise / Kingdom of God }?
People who believes in God And do good to other human being.
People who will inter heaven those are whom the other human are safe,
safe from his/her tongue and hand.
People who will inter heaven those are respect and honors all human
beings irrespective of their religion,color, race, gender, language,
status, property, birth, profession/job and so on.
People who stand out firmly for justice even as against yourselves or
your parents or your kin and whether it be against rich or poor.
People who have patience, forbearance, generosity, bravery, justice,
truthfulness, modesty, fulfilling the promise, satisfaction with
having only a little .
People who makes peace among the people.
People who say with their mouth what is in their heart.
People who do not shout. speak politely keeping their voice low.
People who honor old people is showing respect to God.
People who suppressed his anger, when he had in his power to show it,
God will give him great reward.
People who feed the hungry and visit the sick, and free the innocent.
People who are patient in adversity and forgive wrongs.
People who are nearest to God, who pardoneth, when he had in his
power him who would have injured him.
People who persistent in good actions.
People who speak only good words, otherwise remain silent.
People who feed the hungry, to help the afflicted, to lighten the
sorrow of the sorrowful, and to remove the wrongs of the injured.
People who kind to God's creatures, God is kind to him; therefore be
kind to man on earth, whether good or bad; and being kind to the bad,
is to withold him from badness, thus in heaven you will be treated
kindly.
People who admonish his wives with kindness.
People who enjoin one another to do what is good and forbid one
another to do what is evil.
People who love the poor and bring them near you God will bring you
near Him on the Day of Resurrection.
People who has the most complete faith is he/she who has the best
manners.
People who show forgiveness, enjoin what is good and turn away from
the foolish.
People who pardon and forgive other. do you not love that God should
forgive you?
People who choose best words to speak and say in the best possible
way.
People who always speak the truth. shun words that are deceitful and
ostentatious.
People who nice to people who work under your care.
People who willing to compromise.
People who dress modestly.
People who avoid watching dirty movies/ magazine.
People who avoid substance abuse such as drugs, alcohol, and tobacco.
People who earn an honest living are the beloved of God.
People who believe that a white has no superiority over a black nor a
black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action.
You are not better than people (of other races) unless you excel them
in piety.
The best people are those who are most useful to others.
Whoever does not express his gratitude to people will never be
grateful to God
Power consists not in being able to strike another,
but in being able to control oneself when anger arises.
Honor your children and thus improve their manners.
God is merciful to those who show mercy to others.
Every son of Adam makes mistakes and the best of them are those who
repent.
Verily there are heavenly rewards for any act of kindness to a live
animal
Every good act is charity. A man's true wealth hereafter is the good
that he does in this world to his fellows.
the truthfulness lead to righteousness and righteousness lead to
paradise.
God enjoins you to treat women well, for they are your mothers,
daughters, aunts.
A sincere repenter of faults is like him who hath committed none.
How will God Almighty Judge us?
This life is a test for each individual for the life after death. and
the dead will be resurrected for judgment by God.
On the day of judgment God will judge each person on an individual
basis not our religious affiliation ie Islam, Christainty, Judaism,
Hinduism etc . God Almighty knows what's in the heart of man/woman
and will judge us based on our deeds and the choices we make in life.
Remember, one day you will appear before God (The Creator) and you
will answer for your deeds. It is your own conduct which will lead
you to reward or punishment, as if you had been destined therefor.
God says in the Holy Quran 67:2 “It is He who created death and life
for you that He may try you, as to which of you is best in works....
The Holy Quran, 21:47 "On the Day of Judgment, We shall set up scales
of justice so that no one will be dealt with unjustly in any way;
even if someone has an act as small as a grain of a mustard seed, We
will
bring it to account, and sufficient are We to settle the accounts."
The Holy Quran 16:111"The day will come when every soul will serve as
its own advocate, and every soul will be paid fully for whatever it
had done, without the least injustice."
The Holy Quran 4:124."As for those who lead a righteous life, male or
female, while believing, they enter Paradise; without the slightest
injustice."
The Holy Quran 2:62 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who
follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,-
any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,
shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear,
nor shall they grieve.
===============
i am a radical muslim please read my blog, READ how islam will win
the clash of civilization.
http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
white-race put six millions jews in gas- chamber, white-race must pay
for their crime to jews with land not palestinian.
David Moss
news:otj6b4dde6esh4l4b...@4ax.com:
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:01:03 GMT in uk.politics.misc, David Moss
> <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large for
> all to see:
>
>>FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in
>>news:jm86b4197rh0fo6k1...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:11:12 GMT in uk.politics.misc, David Moss
>>> <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large
>>> for all to see:
>>>
>>>>"ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in
>>>>news:YBjsk.8511$cn7.7415 @flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Pictures of the REAL nazis of the 21st century:
>>>>
>>>>http://noticethings.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/spam.jpg
>>>
>>> So http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/gallery2/v/ffi_gallery/naziism/
>>> scares you, eh?
>>
>>
>>Why would pictures posted on the Internet by the Mujahadeen e-Khalk
>>frighten me?
>
> It was obvious that you were so scared of pictures showing the
> islamonazis as nazis and nazi-like that you tried to cover the URL up
> and make it go away.
Thats just your basic paranoia talking. I often needle link spammers. Link
spam is the laziest propaganda technique there is.
>>> Why is that? Is the truth too hard for you to bear?
>>> "Mein Kampf" is a best seller in islamic countries. Do you deny
>>> that? Does that give you a clue as to where the nazis have revived?
>>
>>Actually I'm keen to see a cite backing that claim. I don't believe
>>Mein Kampf has been a best seller anywhere since 1945.
>>
>
> "As if" you did not know that.
> Okay, I'll play, try
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4361733.stm
Thank you for that. I had no idea there were lots of Nazis in Turkey today.
Now I do. Note that right wing nationalism has little to do with Islam in
Turkey. I had a browse about the topic and found the Nazis in Turkey write
very similar things to the likes of Laudahn et. al.
"Here is an example: a brochure titled ‘Daughter and son of a Turk, protect
your Turkishness!’ It is located in the main page of the internet site for
the journal entitled the Turkish Left. The description of the map below
complements the title: ‘There is no Kurdish problem, but a Kurdish
invasion!’ Brochure commences with the sentence ‘Every Turk should only
purchase goods from other Turks. Money given to a Kurd supports the PKK
[Kurdish Liberation Organization].’ It declares that the Turk only
expresses himself in the sphere of modern urban life and that villages at
all times form the sphere of existence of Kurdism. It reminds people that
every Turk has to talk Turkish with an Istanbul accent, that a Turk cannot
ride in a minivan where Kurdish is spoken, and that he cannot shop from a
store that sells Kurdish [music and video] cassettes. It emphasizes that
Turks should own up to their cuisine, and that the Turkish palate is being
replaced by Kurdish dishes. For, as we all know, ‘the Kurdish cuisine is
as dangerous as all those McDonalds.’ And after stating that Turks should
reproduce before all else, it argues that ‘every additional Turkish baby is
a savior that would get us out of Ergenekon [mythical Turkish homeland].’"
(http://www.birikimdergisi.com/birikim/sabit.aspx?sid=23)
>
> enter mein kampf best seller in muslim countries and get many
> *relevant* hits along with some junk.
>
>>> Let's hear the one about the 'tiny minority' again -- that's one of
>>> my favorites.................
>>
>>
>>
>>OK. Just for you.
>>A tiny majority of the population of western countries are extreme
>>right wing nationalists, sometimes called neo-Nazis.
>>Happy now?
>
> That just doesn't have the same ring to it -- must be getting stale.
> So you are saying that all nationalists are 'right-wing'?
Nope, just the right wing nationalists.
> Where is your further 'balance' for the article on the islamic suicide
> bombers of last friday that I posted? Was it the Afghani-led attack
> that you blamed solely on the US? That was supposed to "balance" the
> first.
The USA currently occupies Afghanistan and calls the shots on all military
operations. Theoretically NATO is in supreme command, but in practice the
USA calls the shots. It has around 27,000 troops on the ground in
Afghanistan about two third of the foreign troops in the NATO occupation
force. Claiming the puppet government in this occupied country has any
input toward military policy is plain silly.
> For someone who touts himself as superior to everybody else, you
> aren't doing too well, Davey.............
Its the neo-Nazis who rant about superiority. I'm just an ordinary bloke
telling it as I see it.
> Chop,chop, now!
Quick typing just gets you typos.
FACE
>FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in
>news:otj6b4dde6esh4l4b...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:01:03 GMT in uk.politics.misc, David Moss
>> <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large for
>> all to see:
>>
>>>FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in
>>>news:jm86b4197rh0fo6k1...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:11:12 GMT in uk.politics.misc, David Moss
>>>> <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large
>>>> for all to see:
>>>>
>>>>>"ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in
That reply was not all bad. Some bad to be sure, but not all...... :-)
I guess i am the forever optimist, thinking that we could actually converse
civilly and rationally...........but with your constant "nazi" this and that
referring to anyone who sees a threat in the muslims and cheap shots like
"your basic paranoia", you keep proving that thought wrong.
Note that I said 'nazi or nazi-like'. I think that the muslims and the
Baathists (only one country left with that now, I believe) are very
nazi-like, viewing mein kampf and similar as a model rather than a direct
emulation -- i.e., I doubt that they see themselves as hitler's "good
germans" or whatever. (Admittedly, I have never read the book and I see
no use or reason to do so.)
I don't think that the government of Afghanistan is a "puppet". Recall a
coupla years ago the government judiciary was going to execute a man for
renouncing islam in the form of changing religions. Worldwide outrage
caused Afghanistan to back off of that sentence and declare the man mentally
incompetent.
FACE
Wanderer
And what lies have I said, you idiot? Obviously you don't have the
intelligence to grasp what you read. All I said was that you need to
read other articles on the same site that you claimed proved some shit
or the other about Islam(even though you utterly failed to provide that
proof).
ßDoüg±Ç
You completely failed to prove the following two allegations about the
website in question: http://www.flex.com/~jal/satyamevajayate/
"No, the author is a thoroughly discredited hatemonger calling himself
"Jai Maharaj"(originally Jay Stevens) who claims to be an asstrolloger.
The targets of his hate run the gamut from Muslims to Christians to Jews
to gays to anybody who opposes his extremist Hindu right-wing agenda(or,
rather, the agenda of the people who pay him to do this).
As for the Taj Mahal, there is no credible evidence to show that it was
ever a Hindu temple. This fantasy was created by a delirious anti-Muslim
named P. N. Oak. The ultimate rebuttal of this fantasy is an actual
visit to the Taj Mahal, where you can examine the "evidence" put forth
by Oak."
Since you've made accusations but failed to prove them I conclude
you're a fucking liar.
ßDoüg±Ç
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:09:01 GMT in uk.politics.misc, David Moss
> <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large for all
> to see:
>
>>FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in
>>news:otj6b4dde6esh4l4b...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:01:03 GMT in uk.politics.misc, David Moss
>>> <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large for
>>> all to see:
>>>
>>>>FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in
>>>>news:jm86b4197rh0fo6k1...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:11:12 GMT in uk.politics.misc, David Moss
>>>>> <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote large
>>>>> for all to see:
>>>>>
Take a look at the documentary: Anti-semitism in the 21st Century:
the Resurgence. Anti-semitism in the 21st century is all about
Islam. In Egypt, there's a public television documentary based on
the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in which that fraudulent piece
of fiction is quoted as fact! The Anti-Semitism in the 21st Century
documentary screens an example of the Egyptian documentary in
which the Blood Libel is portrayed as a practice of modern day
Judaism!
> I don't think that the government of Afghanistan is a "puppet". Recall a
> coupla years ago the government judiciary was going to execute a man for
> renouncing islam in the form of changing religions. Worldwide outrage
> caused Afghanistan to back off of that sentence and declare the man
> mentally
> incompetent.
>
> FACE
Gee, declaring someone mentally incompetent for embracing Christianity and
renouncing Islam -- it sounds a lot like the gulags of Stalin doesn't it?
It's interesting
that I've heard nothing about whatever became of the guy. I wonder if he's
locked
up in an islamic insane asylum in Afghanistan? Gawd, I can only imagine what
that must be like.
Wanderer
You claimed that the website in question provided an "interesting and
compelling argument" that the Taj Mahal was not built by the Mughals.
You failed to provide that argument and defend it.
You claimed that there were "ugly stats" on the number of temples
allegedly destroyed by Muslims. You failed to provide those stats for
examination.
All I asked you to do was read the anti-Christian posts made by the
foaming rabid fuckwit calling himself Jai Maharaj, at the very same
website _you_ are promoting, and you go into fucking convulsions.
Obviously, you are a rustic inbred village idiot incapable of rational
thought processes. Fucking retard.
FACE
<noün...@now.com> in glistered weave wrote large for all to see:
>> I don't think that the government of Afghanistan is a "puppet". Recall a
>> coupla years ago the government judiciary was going to execute a man for
>> renouncing islam in the form of changing religions. Worldwide outrage
>> caused Afghanistan to back off of that sentence and declare the man
>> mentally
>> incompetent.
>>
>> FACE
>
>Gee, declaring someone mentally incompetent for embracing Christianity and
>renouncing Islam -- it sounds a lot like the gulags of Stalin doesn't it?
>It's interesting
>that I've heard nothing about whatever became of the guy. I wonder if he's
>locked
>up in an islamic insane asylum in Afghanistan? Gawd, I can only imagine what
>that must be like.
>
There is a rationale behind the reasoning of islamic courts in declaring as
mentally incompetent the renouncers of islam.
In the koran and in the practice of the hadiths there is a compulsion for
islamics to kill anyone who turns their back on islam.
Since they do not always want to do this, the legal "out" for not killing an
apostate is in declaring the person mentally incompetent. The thought of
the sharia court is that no one "sane" would leave islam......
FACE
--
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini: "There are no jokes in Islam. There is no
humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam."
ßDoüg±Ç
The "argument" was on the website foolio.
> You claimed that there were "ugly stats" on the number of temples
> allegedly destroyed by Muslims. You failed to provide those stats for
> examination.
>
Also found on the website in question renob.
> All I asked you to do was read the anti-Christian posts made by the
> foaming rabid fuckwit calling himself Jai Maharaj, at the very same
> website _you_ are promoting, and you go into fucking convulsions.
> Obviously, you are a rustic inbred village idiot incapable of rational
> thought processes. Fucking retard.
I haven't read EVERY last word or link on the website, but I will
go back and check now.
Now it's time for you to prove your OTHER allegations.
Wanderer
>> You claimed that the website in question provided an "interesting and
>> compelling argument" that the Taj Mahal was not built by the Mughals. You
>> failed to provide that argument and defend it.
>>
>
> The "argument" was on the website foolio.
Exactly. And I asked you to read more at the very same website to see
how he targets Christians for his hatred. Something you don't appear to
want to do.
>> You claimed that there were "ugly stats" on the number of temples
>> allegedly destroyed by Muslims. You failed to provide those stats for
>> examination.
>>
>
> Also found on the website in question renob.
I'm not reading the website. I'm reading a newsgroup.
>> All I asked you to do was read the anti-Christian posts made by the
>> foaming rabid fuckwit calling himself Jai Maharaj, at the very same
>> website _you_ are promoting, and you go into fucking convulsions.
>> Obviously, you are a rustic inbred village idiot incapable of rational
>> thought processes. Fucking retard.
>
> I haven't read EVERY last word or link on the website, but I will
> go back and check now.
>
> Now it's time for you to prove your OTHER allegations.
When I first replied, I gave you the benefit of the doubt, and assumed
you to be a normal human. Subsequently, of course, you turned out to be
carrying the virus of race/religion hate. Frankly, now I don't give a
damn about giving you any more information. It's all there on the net
for people who want to find out, anyhow. Sometimes, people just need to
be reminded that what they read on one website isn't necessarily true,
and then they research for themselves. You are not such a person.
PN Oak, on whose claims the entire "Taj Mahal is a Hindu temple"
propaganda is based, is neither an archaelogist not an accredited
historian. He founded the self-explanatory "Institute for Rewriting
Indian History" and made such extraordinary claims as that Christianity
and Islam originated from Vedic beliefs, that the Papacy was a "Vedic
priesthood" until Constantine killed the "Vedic Pope", and that the
Kaaba in Mecca is actually a shrine of the Hindu god Shiva.
Now you have enough information to proceed.
"rss. ...@gmail.com
>>> You completely failed to prove the following two allegations about the
>>> website in question: http://www.flex.com/~jal/satyamevajayate/
Years ago, when I first visited another website operated by the same
individual(mantra.com), it had a script that automatically opened your
e-mail client and sent an e-mail to j...@mantra.com, thereby revealing
the identity of every visitor to the site. I was able to prevent mine
from doing so, because I do not allow my e-mail client automatic access.
I posted this information on Usenet, and the script was thereafter removed.
ßDoüg±Ç
Of course, we all know they would much rather just kill them -- after
all that's EXACTLY what the Afghani "justice" system was planning on
doing w/this apostate until Karsai stepped in.
ßDoüg±Ç
"Wanderer" <n...@there.yet> wrote in message
> ßDoüg±Ç wrote:
>
>> "Wanderer" <n...@there.yet> wrote in message
>> news:5z4sk.599$w51.389@trnddc01...
>>> ßDoüg±Ç <noün...@now.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The website that I referred to in my A Hindu perspective on the
>>>> ugliness that is islam
>>>> post the other day has an interesting and compelling argument that the
>>>> Taj Mahal
>>>> was NEVER an islamonazi structure at all -- it was built by Hindus and
>>>> then defaced &
>>>> vandalized once the muslime pigs took over.
>>>>
>>>> The website is http://www.flex.com/~jal/satyamevajayate/ . It's author
>>>> is an Indian
>>>> Hindu.
>>> No, the author is a thoroughly discredited hatemonger calling himself
>>> "Jai Maharaj"(originally Jay Stevens) who claims to be an asstrolloger.
>>> The targets of his hate run the gamut from Muslims to Christians to Jews
>>> to gays to anybody who opposes his extremist Hindu right-wing agenda(or,
>>> rather, the agenda of the people who pay him to do this).
>>>
>>
>> Of course I'm just supposed to believe your Al Taqiyya lies aren't I?
>> Some people like to see proof. Muslimes seem to confuse accusations
>> w/proof.
>
> You seem perfectly capable of swallowing Jay's lies without any proof.
>
You haven't provided a single shred of proof that Zulfikar Khan is
Jay Stevens asshole. If you think I'm just going to swallow your
bullshit without a single shred of proof you can blow me.
>
>>> As for the Taj Mahal, there is no credible evidence to show that it was
>>> ever a Hindu temple. This fantasy was created by a delirious anti-Muslim
>>> named P. N. Oak. The ultimate rebuttal of this fantasy is an actual
>>> visit to the Taj Mahal, where you can examine the "evidence" put forth
>>> by Oak.
>>>
Once again, you don't provide a single shred of proof. While
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/tejo.html does.
>>
>> Aw, gee, the website I referred to has ample evidence that it is indeed
>> the truth muslime piggy.
>
> First of all, little Doogie, I'm not Muslim. Secondly, dig a little deeper
> into Jay's Den of Hate, and you will find ample "proof" of what shitheads
> Christians, Americans, British, Australians etc. really are. The truth
> according to Jay is that "Muslimes", as you call them, and Christians, and
> white people in general should be exterminated for the good of mankind.
>
Thirdly, you provide no foundation for any of your accusations/allegations
aside from your worthless word.
Fourthly, the website in question does NOT have ANYWHERE ANY
mention of exterminating anyone, whether they be Christian or otherwise.
>
>>> You should read this:
>>> http://stopfundinghate.org/actions/press/112002.htm
>>> http://www.secularindia.com/articles/2008/07/EmergenceHinduTerrorism.html
>>>
>>> That is what "Jai Maharaj" is engaged in. And he is not a Hindu, Indian
>>> or otherwise.
>>
>> The hatred of muslime pigs is well justified.
>
> As is the hatred of white Christians, perhaps?
FOAD muslim pig.
ßDoüg±Ç
It's not MY JOB to prove your accusations/allegations half-witted buffoon.
Wanderer
Have you proven your "compelling" argument that the Taj was a temple? Of
course not, but you think people should swallow that crap because Jay
Stevens or some equally clueless RSS bozo claims it? Fudgepacking moron!
Wanderer
After you've blown Jay Stevens and taken him in the brown? No thanks, I
don't like skanks.
>>>> As for the Taj Mahal, there is no credible evidence to show that it was
>>>> ever a Hindu temple. This fantasy was created by a delirious anti-Muslim
>>>> named P. N. Oak. The ultimate rebuttal of this fantasy is an actual
>>>> visit to the Taj Mahal, where you can examine the "evidence" put forth
>>>> by Oak.
>>>>
>
> Once again, you don't provide a single shred of proof. While
> http://www.flex.com/~jal/satyamevajayate/tejo.html does.
No it doesn't, you pinhead. P.N. Oak had zero credibility in the
scientific community, and he was neither a historian nor an
archaeologist. Of course, saffron shitheads like you don't look for
credibility when you like what you read, do you?
>>> Aw, gee, the website I referred to has ample evidence that it is indeed
>>> the truth muslime piggy.
>> First of all, little Doogie, I'm not Muslim. Secondly, dig a little deeper
>> into Jay's Den of Hate, and you will find ample "proof" of what shitheads
>> Christians, Americans, British, Australians etc. really are. The truth
>> according to Jay is that "Muslimes", as you call them, and Christians, and
>> white people in general should be exterminated for the good of mankind.
>>
>
> Thirdly, you provide no foundation for any of your accusations/allegations
> aside from your worthless word.
Ask Verizon, you piece of shit. They've filtered out all of Jay's posts
from their newsgroup feeds. There's got to be good reason for that.
> Fourthly, the website in question does NOT have ANYWHERE ANY
> mention of exterminating anyone, whether they be Christian or otherwise.
If you look somewhere other than up Jay's ass, you would find it.
>>>> You should read this:
>>>> http://stopfundinghate.org/actions/press/112002.htm
>>>> http://www.secularindia.com/articles/2008/07/EmergenceHinduTerrorism.html
>>>>
>>>> That is what "Jai Maharaj" is engaged in. And he is not a Hindu, Indian
>>>> or otherwise.
>>> The hatred of muslime pigs is well justified.
>> As is the hatred of white Christians, perhaps?
>
> FOAD muslim pig.
FYM, you VHP vermin.
David Moss
news:qglab4lot6i1v1lfg...@4ax.com:
> I guess i am the forever optimist, thinking that we could actually
> converse civilly and rationally...........but with your constant
> "nazi" this and that referring to anyone who sees a threat in the
> muslims and cheap shots like "your basic paranoia", you keep proving
> that thought wrong.
I'm one of the most civil and reasonable writers in aus.politics. If you
can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
> Note that I said 'nazi or nazi-like'. I think that the muslims and
> the Baathists (only one country left with that now, I believe) are
> very nazi-like, viewing mein kampf and similar as a model rather than
> a direct emulation -- i.e., I doubt that they see themselves as
> hitler's "good germans" or whatever. (Admittedly, I have never read
> the book and I see no use or reason to do so.)
I've read a bit of Mein Kampf. The title translates as "My Struggle" or,
if you speak Arabic, "Jihad".
> I don't think that the government of Afghanistan is a "puppet".
> Recall a coupla years ago the government judiciary was going to
> execute a man for renouncing islam in the form of changing religions.
> Worldwide outrage caused Afghanistan to back off of that sentence and
> declare the man mentally incompetent.
Hmm, you don't think the Afghan government is a puppet because it backed
down and toed the US line instead of enforcing its own laws?
David Moss
news:9krcb41au4amc8gm6...@4ax.com:
> Since they do not always want to do this, the legal "out" for not
> killing an apostate is in declaring the person mentally incompetent.
> The thought of the sharia court is that no one "sane" would leave
> islam......
Actually the presumption is that no sane person would insist on his own
death. Apostates are given the opportunity to recant their apostasy and
escape penalty. Given the option of publlically recanting or public
execution I'd publicly recant in an istant. What happened inside my head
would be between me and my God/s though.
FACE
>> I don't think that the government of Afghanistan is a "puppet".
>> Recall a coupla years ago the government judiciary was going to
>> execute a man for renouncing islam in the form of changing religions.
>> Worldwide outrage caused Afghanistan to back off of that sentence and
>> declare the man mentally incompetent.
>
>Hmm, you don't think the Afghan government is a puppet because it backed
>down and toed the US line instead of enforcing its own laws?
It was worldwide (at least the non-muslim world) outrage -- not just the US.
FACE
David Moss
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The rest of the world don't control the close personal protection
surrounding the Afghan President. Those men happen to wear US uniforms.
FACE
Moss <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au>, wrote
>FACE <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in
>news:32rnb4ppjfveprkbt...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:05:08 GMT in alt.politics.immigration, David
>> Moss <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> in glistered weave wrote
>> large for all to see:
>>
>>>> I don't think that the government of Afghanistan is a "puppet".
>>>> Recall a coupla years ago the government judiciary was going to
>>>> execute a man for renouncing islam in the form of changing
>>>> religions. Worldwide outrage caused Afghanistan to back off of that
>>>> sentence and declare the man mentally incompetent.
>>>
>>>Hmm, you don't think the Afghan government is a puppet because it
>>>backed down and toed the US line instead of enforcing its own laws?
>>
>>
>> It was worldwide (at least the non-muslim world) outrage -- not just
>> the US.
>
>The rest of the world don't control the close personal protection
>surrounding the Afghan President. Those men happen to wear US uniforms.
Tell me again how we went from sentencing by the afghan judiciary to the
personal protection of Karzai -- it was all so sudden..........
FACE
David Moss
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The close personal protection surrounding the Afghan President is not
composed of Afghans but US soldiers. Even the fact he is alive from
minute to minute is completely in the hands of the USA. With strings like
that, why be surprised if he jumps when the USA tugs on them?
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David Moss
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>> The close personal protection surrounding the Afghan President is not
>> composed of Afghans but US soldiers. Even the fact he is alive from
>> minute to minute is completely in the hands of the USA. With strings
>> like that, why be surprised if he jumps when the USA tugs on them?
>>
>
> Pigs commonly wallow in mud.
I'm surprised a right winger like yourself is so disrespectful to US
soldiers Dougie. Did you wander off and leave your workstation logged on
again?