OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE IS CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
Don Gabacho
CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September 11, 2008 12:25 AM
EDT)
views: 237 | comments: 23
From an article by Jeff Schreiber, see the link below.
More breaking news, bad news that is, for Obama
Phillip Berg filed a motion for extensive and expedited discovery in
the Philadelphia federal courts as part of his suit contesting
Illinois Senator Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for the
presidency.
This motion filed by Berg on September 9, 2008 would require Obama to
turn over the following records within ten days.
* A "Genuine Certified Copy" of his "vault version" of his Birth
Certificate.
* Any and all certificates or other registrations of birth from
Canada, Kenya, the British Isles and the United States in the name of
Barack Hussein Obama, Barry Soetoro, and others.
* A "Certified Copy" of the U.S. Oath of Allegiance required to be
taken in order to regain any U.S. Citizenship status.
* Any and all passport records including applications and travel
logs connected with passports issued to Obama--or any previously used
names--in Indonesia, Kenya, the United States and more.
* Any and all adoption records, including records detailing the
adoption of Obama by his presumed Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro,
as well as his grandparents, the Dunhams.
* A copy of his FBI background check used in the vetting process.
* A copy of the "vault" version of his Birth Certificate from
Kenya.
* Any and all applications for a social security number and
replacement social security cards.
* Any and all applications and court documents detailing a name
change.
Within 20 days of the court order, should the motion be granted, Berg
is also seeking other records which would provide a window into Barack
Obama's past, including but not limited to college applications and
records from Occidental College, Harvard and Harvard Law School,
Columbia University, the University of Chicago and any other schools
to which Obama applied, as well as any applications for college grants
and loans, copies of any college thesis papers or other essays written
which could shed light on his life, background, heritage and
childhood.
Go here to read this article by Jeff Schreiber:
http://www.americasright.com/2008/09/berg-v-obama-update-tuesday-september-9.html
GeekBoy
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ßDoüg±Ç
Zone, which at the time was a US protectorate, unlike Indonesia
or Kenya, which never were.
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> http://www.americasright.com
'nuff said.
br...@pobox.com
> Now McCain should be next for not being a natural born citizen.
>
enemies and destroy military property worth millions while killing our own
sailors.
I think that it's great that McCain was born in Panama before Americans born
on military bases were deemed American citizens by birth. It means he can be
deported back to his home country once convicted of the scandals he has so
far avoided.
It goes well beyond the Keating Five
By: Steve Benen on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 at 5:30 AM - PDT
When considering John McCain's history of unethical behavior, the list
usually starts (and ends) with the Keating Five scandal in the 1980s,
for which McCain was rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for having
shown, at a minimum, poor judgment. In the aftermath, McCain helped
improve his public image, and bury the scandal, by becoming an
advocate of campaign-finance reform.
But the notion that McCain cleaned up his act may not be entirely
true. Take, for example, Donald Diamond, a wealthy Arizona real estate
developer and generous McCain contributor, who wanted some coastal
land in California freed up by an Army base closing.
When Mr. Diamond wanted to buy land at the base, Fort Ord, Mr. McCain
assigned an aide who set up a meeting at the Pentagon and later
stepped in again to help speed up the sale, according to people
involved and a deposition Mr. Diamond gave for a related lawsuit. When
he appealed to a nearby city for the right to develop other property
at the former base, Mr. Diamond submitted Mr. McCain?s endorsement as
?a close personal friend.?
Writing to officials in the city, Seaside, Calif., the senator said,
?You will find him as honorable and committed as I have.?
Courting local officials and potential partners, Mr. Diamond?s team
promised that he could ?help get through some of the red tape in
dealing with the Department of the Army? because Mr. Diamond ?has been
very active with Senator McCain,? a partner said in a deposition.
For Mr. McCain, the Arizona Republican who has staked two presidential
campaigns on pledges to avoid even the appearance of dispensing an
official favor for a donor, Mr. Diamond is the kind of friend who can
pose a test.
Ya think? The closer one looks at this, the worse it appears.
In California, the McCain aide?s assistance with the Army helped Mr.
Diamond complete a purchase in 1999 that he soon turned over for a $20
million profit. And Mr. McCain?s letter of recommendation reinforced
Mr. Diamond?s selling point about his McCain connections as he pursued
? and won in 2005 ? a potentially much more lucrative deal to develop
a resort hotel and luxury housing.
In Arizona, Mr. McCain has helped Mr. Diamond with matters as small as
forwarding a complaint in a regulatory skirmish over the endangered
pygmy owl, and as large as introducing legislation remapping public
lands. In 1991 and 1994, Mr. McCain sponsored two laws sought by Mr.
Diamond that resulted in providing him millions of dollars and
thousands of acres in exchange for adding some of his properties to
national parks. The Arizona senator co-sponsored a third similar bill
now before the Senate. [?]
For the California projects, the campaign said the McCain aide
arranged the introduction to an Army official for Mr. Diamond?s team
as ?a constituent matter.?
Oh, is that what the kids are calling it these days?
McCain helped a wealthy and generous donor buy land from the Army ?
complete with special water rights ? for a quarter of a million
dollars, which McCain?s buddy then sold two years later for $20
million. There?s a term for this ? it?s called ?influence peddling,?
and it?s exactly the kind of thing McCain swears he never gets
involved with.
If the Rezko story was considered a big deal by campaign reporters,
the Donald Diamond issue should be huge. Why the New York Times ran
this the day of the Pennsylvania primary, when it?s likely to get lost
in the shuffle, is a mystery to me. If this same story ran on Thursday
morning, it would have become the talk of the political world in a
hurry.
---
Why does McCain refuse to speak out agains the epidemic of right wing
Republican pedophilia? Why does he support having sex with children?
* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting
two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year
old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to
possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bountyto anybody
who murders an abortion doctor.
* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in
prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal
prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years
probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had
sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the
2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a
sexual affair with a female juvenile.
* Ted Haggard, president of the 30-million member National Association
of Evangelicals and prominent Republican fund raiser, denounced gays and
illegal drugs but was later exposed as a gay Crystal Meth user.
* Republican Senator Larry Craig was arrested and charged with lewd
conduct for propositioning an undercover police officer for homosexual
sex in a men's washroom, later pleading guilty to a
lesser charge of disorderly conduct.
* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted
child rapist in Florida.
* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an
inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at
the White House during the 1980s.
* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the
White House during the 1980s.
* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex
with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn
charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes
involving children.
* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted
sexual assault on a child.
* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a
congressional page.
* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell
admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged
with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing
a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken
into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity
with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a
12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with
his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations
were reported in the media.
* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional
values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for
permission to perform oral sex on him.
* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his
genitals to an 11 year old girl.
* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40
years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop
a gay couple from adopting her.
* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping
his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years
probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first
degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
* Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony
counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e.
exposing himself to children).
* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual
misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a
male child.
* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault
on a teenage girl.
* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two
daughters.
* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of
molesting a 13-year old girl.
* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to
unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to
raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child
pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal
prison and fined $18,000.
* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative,
Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his
possession.
* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin
Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from
boys and girls over the internet.
* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good
military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with
an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota
governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with
four underage girls, including his daughter.
* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo
molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen
Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex.
Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has
allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million
to have sex with a large number of young women.
Bert Hyman
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> NNTP-Posting-Host: pk2YRcHzc04WcKZVxHEHnA.user.aioe.org
> I think that it's great that McCain was born in Panama before
> Americans born on military bases were deemed American citizens by
> birth.
You're not just ignorant, but ostentatiously ignorant.
That's almost a requirement for an aioe.org account, isn't it?
--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | be...@iphouse.com
Tim Crowley
hint: donny is a lying nazi.
repo
HE IS CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
BARACK OBAMA SAYS, “MY MUSLIM FAITH” (Video)
http://www.urbanconservative.com/2008/09/08/obama-slips-my-muslim-faith/
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WAS REGISTERED AS A MUSLIM
INDONESIA CITIZEN
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/msg/371bd5850e3f22a6
AP PHOTO OF SCHOOL REGISTER REVEALS
“BARRY SOETORO” AS MUSLIM INDONESIAN
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13056.htm
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/msg/9b3cee6d0490d482
OBAMA LIES ON HIS WEB SITE ABOUT HIS
MUSLIM ROOTS
http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/11/12/obama_has_never_been_a_muslim_1.php
LAWSUIT FILED> OBAMA NOT US NATURALIZED CITIZEN
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/91cee614aab40526
UPDATE http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/msg/8aac29fb04428f91
Deadrat
> OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE IS
> CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
> September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September 11, 2008 12:25 AM
> EDT)
> views: 237 | comments: 23
>
> From an article by Jeff Schreiber, see the link below.
>
>
>
> More breaking news, bad news that is, for Obama
Only in your fevered brain, Don Gazpacho.
>
> Phillip Berg filed a motion for extensive and expedited discovery in
> the Philadelphia federal courts as part of his suit contesting
> Illinois Senator Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for the
> presidency.
To give you an idea of how clueless this guy is, he asked for a deadline
of September 31.
Technically, no one votes for a candidate for President of the US. All
votes are cast for each state's slate of electors, and the electors vote
for President. Even if Berg could show he had standing to sue, he would
have to do so in state courts to challenge the eligibility of electors.
Part of the hurdle there is that electors often aren't bound by state law
to vote for their candidate.
Nothing in the Constitution prohibits an ineligible candidate for
campaigning for office. Presumably, he or she wouldn't be allowed to
take office, but that couldn't be a problem until after the Electoral
College meets.
After the Electoral College delivers their votes, a joint session of
Congress takes the official tally, and at that point challenges may be
made to any elector. No federal court will intrude on such a
Congressional prerogative.
<snip/>
> Go here to read this article by Jeff Schreiber:
who says,
<quote>
... I am still leery of many of the allegations put forth in Philip
Berg's suit.
</quote>
>
> http://www.americasright.com/2008/09/berg-v-obama-update-tuesday-septem
> ber-9.html
>
in which that rightard says
<quote>
[Berg's requests for documents] ... made me wonder if Berg was seizing an
opportunity to use discovery ...to really fill in some gaps in Obama's
background. Surely, I wasn't the only one who questioned why no long-term
acquaintances other than his wife, Michelle, has ever come forth to talk
about Barack, tell stories about Barack, praise Barack or even criticize
Barack like we see with so many other political candidates.
</quote>
The requests include any of Obama's Harvard Law Review articles and
college papers. Yeah, that'll fly.
Perhaps the rightard has missed the documentary on Obama's political
career in Illinois, the comments made by his state senate colleagues, and
even the criticism by his US Senate opponent, fellow-rightard Allan
Keyes.
charles bash
Berg. As you know I had posted on Berg's first pleading just before the
Conventions. Berg merely charged, at the time, that the Hawaii B'
Certificate of Barack Obama was a Phoney.
In this new filing of 9 Sep. Berg has apparently "got the goods" on
half-breed and is asking for <<< extensive & expedited discovery <<<
On any criminal case, AFAIK, an actual "discovery meeting" is held,
prior to court hearing, wherein the "plaintiff" and "respondent" and
their lawyers actually lay-out and discuss they plaintiff's information
that will be introduced into court! I was surprised to know that.
So, Berg, a lawyer is setting out to play hardball! Gives me another
follow-up chore in maintaining liaison with the Clerk of the Court in
Philly so I can post updates.
We can also appreciate the contributions of a reformed kcajyer in this
case as well. We're getting there!. Will go thru my Washington papers
today but I don;t expect to find anything on Barack.
C. Bash
<<< Our Day Will Come <<< ..==o==. words & music by bob hillard & mort
garson ,
Deadrat
news:MToyk.51$Ei5...@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com:
> Interesting point. I believe McCain was born in the Panama Canal
> Zone,
True.
> which at the time was a US protectorate,
Not quite. The Zone was an unincorporated territory of the US, with
jurisdiction granted by treaty. Zonians born with a US parent are citiznes
by statute. The question of whether they're natural born citizens can be
answered only by the Supreme Court.
> unlike Indonesia or Kenya, which never were.
Irrelevant to the citizenship of either McCain or Obama. The latter was
born in Hawaii and is thus a natural born citizen through the 14th
Amendment.
<snip/>
GeekBoy
"ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in message
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> Interesting point. I believe McCain was born in the Panama Canal
> Zone, which at the time was a US protectorate, unlike Indonesia
> or Kenya, which never were.
>
No, the Cananl Zne was lease land through a contract.
Lamont Cranston
> OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE IS
> CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
> September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September 11,
> 2008 12:25 AM
> EDT)
Very old news, pendejo. Anybody can file a lawsuit.
Winning them is a different matter. This Berg, being the
whack job that he is, can attest to that fact because he has
lost many, many cases.
repo
wrote:
This is an important lawsuit, and it doesn't make
a difference who Berg is; what matters is that it is
filed, and hopefully light will be shed on Obama's
citizenship.
Who is Obama?
Obama was trained by the Saul Alinsky. Alinsky was known for
helping to establish the aggressive political tactics that
characterized
the 1960s and have remained central to all subsequent revolutionary
movements in the United States
OBAMA’S CLOSE TIES TO TOP SAUDI ADVISER
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/msg/bb67c070d2add8b5
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S HOME GROWN TERRORIST FRIEND
WILLIAM AYERS PLANNED TO OVERTHROW USA
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/95359c1f447e228f
NATION OF ISLAM ACTIVISTS ON OBAMA’S PAYROLL
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/topics
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA & HIS SYRIAN BORN
FRIEND, “TONY” REZKO
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/msg/010a5dc3c31d29aa
CORRUPTION CASTS SHADOW OVER OBAMA-BIDEN TICKET
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/msg/17fd95b46b4a76d5
OBAMA’S FRIEND, DETROIT MAYOR KWAME
KILPATRICK..HEADED FOR JAIL (Obama praises his friend on Video)
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/msg/3a80de4cd6bd392f
OBAMA-BIDEN APPEASE TERRORIST JIHADISTS= IRAN, ECT.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.immigration/msg/59f9bf00949036f4
Lamont Cranston
> On Sep 12, 9:55 am, "Lamont Cranston"
> <Lamont.Crans...@MeAndMy.com>
> wrote:
> > Don Gabacho wrote:
> > > OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE
> > > IS
> > > CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
> > > September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September
> > > 11,
> > > 2008 12:25 AM
> > > EDT)
> >
> > Very old news, pendejo. Anybody can file a lawsuit.
> > Winning them is a different matter. This Berg, being the
> > whack job that he is, can attest to that fact because he
> > has
> > lost many, many cases.
>
> This is an important lawsuit, and it doesn't make
> a difference who Berg is;
Oh, it makes a very big difference who Berg is. Berg is a
whack job. Berg also sued George W. Bush for complicity in
the 9/11 attacks. This is a frivolous lawsuit like most of
Berg's lawsuits.
>?what matters is that it is
> filed, and hopefully light will be shed on Obama's
> citizenship.
We already know that Obama is a U.S. citizen. His birth
certificate is posted on his website, it has been examined
by an independent source, and has be verified by the Hawaii
Department of Health.
Don Gabacho
> Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com> wrote innews:20740558-07fc-4ae5...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE IS
> > CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
> > September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September 11, 2008 12:25 AM
> > EDT)
> > views: 237 | comments: 23
>
> > From an article by Jeff Schreiber, see the link below.
>
> > More breaking news, bad news that is, for Obama
>
> Only in your fevered brain, Don Gazpacho.
>
Can't your "fevered brain" read?
What does "From an article by Jeff Schreiber" say?
>
> > Phillip Berg filed a motion for extensive and expedited discovery in
> > the Philadelphia federal courts as part of his suit contesting
> > Illinois Senator Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for the
> > presidency.
>
> To give you an idea of how clueless this guy is, he asked for a deadline
> of September 31.
>
> Technically, no one votes for a candidate for President of the US. All
> votes are cast for each state's slate of electors, and the electors vote
> for President...
The electors are popularly elected representatives; and, once again,
simply cannot convene themselves, without a popular election
designating just who they would be, to decide who is President.
Your argument is a malicious attempt to not only divert attention from
the fact, "The President must be a natural born citizen of the United
States," but also an attack in favor of oligarch rule on the very
democracy that is the U.S.A..
And, as anyone else seeking much less holding a public trust of the
U.S.A. must be free from conflict of interest.
> Even if Berg could show he had standing to sue, he would
> have to do so in state courts to challenge the eligibility of electors.
Absolute nonsense.
The rest of your contrived and malicious dribble not worth responding
to.
ßDoüg±Ç
news:pVvyk.107$fD...@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
Um, there seems to be some doubt as to whether or not Obama
was, in fact, born in Hawaii.
tasha...@yahoo.com
I object to a Kenyan being president but the office is a bad joke
anyway.
charles bash
>There seems to be some doubt as to whether
>or not Obama, was, in fact, born in Hawaii.
Yes indeedy there is certainly 'some doubt'
A lawyer in Montgomery County, Penna has filed at this same District
Court. 2 pleadings.
(a) around 15th or 20 July, 2008, a first case alleging that the Hawaii
Certificate of Live Birth, shown on the Obama website = is a Forged
document.
(b) on 9 Sept 2008 the 2nd pleading requesting the list of "discovery'
information that Berg will need to prove his case. Thanks to Don
Gabacho. that's 2 cases, by _Philip Berg,, claimant.
I telephoned the Courthouse at 4 pm today, Friday, to see if I could get
an 'update' on either case, and when the first hearing will be held.
Clerk's office was "busy" and all I got was a promise to call me back.
C. Bash
<<< Que Sera, Sera <<< ,, ==o==, doris day version .
Deadrat
news:354c6a15-ad7a-4108...@a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com:
> On Sep 12, 9:55 am, "Lamont Cranston" <Lamont.Crans...@MeAndMy.com>
> wrote:
>> Don Gabacho wrote:
>> > OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE IS
>> > CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
>> > September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September 11,
>> > 2008 12:25 AM
>> > EDT)
>>
>> Very old news, pendejo. Anybody can file a lawsuit.
>> Winning them is a different matter. This Berg, being the
>> whack job that he is, can attest to that fact because he has
>> lost many, many cases.
>
> This is an important lawsuit, and it doesn't make
> a difference who Berg is; what matters is that it is
> filed, and hopefully light will be shed on Obama's
> citizenship.
As I have patiently explained before, the suit is bullshit. Berg has no
complaint against a Presidential candidate and no standing with a
President-elect.
> Who is Obama?
>
> Obama was trained by the Saul Alinsky.
Saul Alinsky died in 1972. Obama was 11.
. Alinsky was known for
> helping to establish the aggressive political tactics that
> characterized
> the 1960s and have remained central to all subsequent revolutionary
> movements in the United States
Alinsky was a radical labor organizer, not a revolutionary.
<snip/>
> BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S HOME GROWN TERRORIST FRIEND
> WILLIAM AYERS PLANNED TO OVERTHROW USA
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/95359c1f447e228f
William Ayers founded the violent Weathermen faction of the SDS in 1968.
Obama was 7.
<snipped: more silly references from google groups>
Deadrat
> On Sep 12, 11:20 am, Deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com> wrote
>> innews:20740558-07fc-4ae5-a633-9
> e17fd...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE IS
>> > CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
>> > September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September 11, 2008 12:25
>> > AM EDT)
>> > views: 237 | comments: 23
>>
>> > From an article by Jeff Schreiber, see the link below.
>>
>> > More breaking news, bad news that is, for Obama
>>
>> Only in your fevered brain, Don Gazpacho.
>>
>
> Can't your "fevered brain" read?
>
> What does "From an article by Jeff Schreiber" say?
Even Schreiber doesn't believe the crap Berg is dishing out. Read your
own reference.
>> > Phillip Berg filed a motion for extensive and expedited discovery
>> > in the Philadelphia federal courts as part of his suit contesting
>> > Illinois Senator Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for the
>> > presidency.
>>
>> To give you an idea of how clueless this guy is, he asked for a
>> deadline of September 31.
>>
>> Technically, no one votes for a candidate for President of the US.
>> All votes are cast for each state's slate of electors, and the
>> electors vote for President...
>
> The electors are popularly elected representatives; and, once again,
> simply cannot convene themselves, without a popular election
> designating just who they would be, to decide who is President.
The electors convene per instructions in the Constitution. If they are
committed to an ineligible candidate, then Berg would first have to look
for state laws that disqualify them.
> Your argument is a malicious attempt to not only divert attention from
> the fact, "The President must be a natural born citizen of the United
> States,"
The President must be. But that doesn't apply to people who campaign for
the office, although any such person elected would presumably be
disqualified from taking the office. Thus Berg has no grounds for suing
Obama.
> but also an attack in favor of oligarch rule on the very
> democracy that is the U.S.A..
Only in your fevered mind, Don Gazpacho.
> And, as anyone else seeking much less holding a public trust of the
> U.S.A. must be free from conflict of interest.
And yet you can name no law that applies. And don't give me your
nonsense about trustees. The President is not the trustee of a trust.
>> Even if Berg could show he had standing to sue, he would
>> have to do so in state courts to challenge the eligibility of
>> electors.
>
> Absolute nonsense.
Please explain. Remember: Obama and McCain are not standing for
election; their electors are.
> The rest of your contrived and malicious dribble not worth responding
> to.
Translation: I don't understand, I don't want to understand, and I
cannot present an argument against the post.
Whatever you say, Brave Sir Robin.
Deadrat
If you define no doubt as "some doubt." He has a certified copy of a
Hawaiian birth certificate.
And there's that birth announcement in a local paper in 1961. What do
figure? Someone planted that in case he ran for President in 2008?
Deadrat
bd9c14...@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
> since obama is a lawyer he deserves this.
> I object to a Kenyan being president
Good thing that can't happen, eh?
> but the office is a bad joke anyway.
No, just the current occupant.
Reality_CheckŠ
Only amongst racist rightards like you.
Reality_CheckŠ
> br...@pobox.com () wrote in
> news:MPG.23341f5ad...@nntp.aioe.org:
>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: pk2YRcHzc04WcKZVxHEHnA.user.aioe.org
>
>> I think that it's great that McCain was born in Panama before
>> Americans born on military bases were deemed American citizens by
>> birth.
>
> You're not just ignorant, but ostentatiously ignorant.
How's Buster?
br...@pobox.com
Stll insulting your betters, shirker?
Perhaps if you'd ever hauled your lard ass off momma's couch and done
something for this country, your opinion might be worthy of not. As it
is however, your's is merely the whining of a kicked yellow cur.
Don Gabacho
> "ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote innews:n4zyk.120$W06...@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com:
>
>
>
> > "Deadrat" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
> >news:pVvyk.107$fD...@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
> >> "ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote in
> >>news:MToyk.51$Ei5...@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com:
>
> >>> Interesting point. I believe McCain was born in the Panama Canal
> >>> Zone,
>
> >> True.
>
> >>> which at the time was a US protectorate,
>
> >> Not quite. The Zone was an unincorporated territory of the US, with
> >> jurisdiction granted by treaty. Zonians born with a US parent are
> >> citiznes
> >> by statute. The question of whether they're natural born citizens
> >> can be answered only by the Supreme Court.
>
> >>> unlike Indonesia or Kenya, which never were.
>
> >> Irrelevant to the citizenship of either McCain or Obama. The latter
> >> was born in Hawaii and is thus a natural born citizen through the
> >> 14th Amendment.
> >> <snip/>
>
> > Um, there seems to be some doubt as to whether or not Obama
> > was, in fact, born in Hawaii.
>
> If you define no doubt as "some doubt." He has a certified copy of a
> Hawaiian birth certificate.
Hogwash. What has been shown is a certified "short form" birth
certificate certifying the information on it matches that of a "long
form."
> And there's that birth announcement in a local paper in 1961. What do
> figure? Someone planted that in case he ran for President in 2008?
Planting such could serve more immediate purposes than running for
President ever.
Don Gabacho
> Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com> wrote innews:c63d4635-3c81-40e0...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 12, 11:20 am, Deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
> >> Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com> wrote
> >> innews:20740558-07fc-4ae5-a633-9
>
> >> > OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE IS
> >> > CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
> >> > September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September 11, 2008 12:25
> >> > AM EDT)
> >> > views: 237 | comments: 23
>
> >> > From an article by Jeff Schreiber, see the link below.
>
> >> > More breaking news, bad news that is, for Obama
>
> >> Only in your fevered brain, Don Gazpacho.
>
> > Can't your "fevered brain" read?
>
> > What does "From an article by Jeff Schreiber" say?
>
> Even Schreiber doesn't believe the crap Berg is dishing out. Read your
> own reference.
Which still doesn't make Schrieber me.
Deadrat
> On Sep 12, 6:43 pm, Deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> "ßDoüg±Ç" <noün...@now.com> wrote innews:n4zyk.120$W06.12@flpi1
This is a legal sufficiency. A "certified" copy is one guaranteed by the
appropriate state official as a true representation of their records.
>> And there's that birth announcement in a local paper in 1961. What
>> do figure? Someone planted that in case he ran for President in
>> 2008?
>
> Planting such could serve more immediate purposes than running for
> President ever.
I'd be interested in hearing one.
Deadrat
> On Sep 12, 6:40 pm, Deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com> wrote
>> innews:c63d4635-3c81-40e0-87ba-6
> 17012...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 12, 11:20 am, Deadrat <a...@b.com> wrote:
>> >> Don Gabacho <jpast...@nettaxi.com> wrote
>> >> innews:20740558-07fc-4ae5-a633-9
>> > e17fd96e...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE IS
>> >> > CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
>> >> > September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September 11, 2008
>> >> > 12:25 AM EDT)
>> >> > views: 237 | comments: 23
>>
>> >> > From an article by Jeff Schreiber, see the link below.
>>
>> >> > More breaking news, bad news that is, for Obama
>>
>> >> Only in your fevered brain, Don Gazpacho.
>>
>> > Can't your "fevered brain" read?
>>
>> > What does "From an article by Jeff Schreiber" say?
>>
>> Even Schreiber doesn't believe the crap Berg is dishing out. Read
>> your own reference.
>
> Which still doesn't make Schrieber me.
How about Schreiber?
Do you think this is "breaking news, bad news" for Obama?
Reality_CheckŠ
You really are one pig-ignorant fuckwipe, aren't you jackass?
Robert not Roberto
"Reality_CheckŠ" <Rea...@Check.it> wrote in message
news:6j18dlF...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Um, there seems to be some doubt as to whether or not Obama
>>>> was, in fact, born in Hawaii.
>>>
>>> Only amongst racist rightards like you.
>>
>> Stll insulting
>
> You really are one pig-ignorant fuckwipe, aren't you jackass?
>
I can hardly wait to hear from you left wingers when Obambi looses in a
landslide. Hopefully you will become suicidal and submit to those urges.
_ Prof. Jonez _
Hold your breath until then, repug.
ßDoüg±Ç
news:844d7918-2554-4557...@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> since obama is a lawyer he deserves this.
> I object to a Kenyan being president but the office is a bad joke
> anyway.
Dubya is bad, but it's possible Obama "my muslim faith" can
be MUCH worse -- just look at:
i. Lebanon
ii. Bethleham
iii. Saudi Barbaria
iv. Phillipines
v. Malaysia
vi. Indonesia
vii. Pigistan
and tell me how having a muslim pig for President inspires
confidence in ANYONE not muslim.
AnAmericanCitizen
Is Hillary the defendant?....AAC
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:55:19 -0700 (PDT), Don Gabacho <jpas...@nettaxi.com> wrote:
>OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE IS
>CONSTITUTIONALLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY
>September 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT (Updated: September 11, 2008 12:25 AM
>EDT)
>views: 237 | comments: 23
>
> From an article by Jeff Schreiber, see the link below.
>
>
>
>More breaking news, bad news that is, for Obama
>
>Phillip Berg filed a motion for extensive and expedited discovery in
>the Philadelphia federal courts as part of his suit contesting
>Illinois Senator Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for the
>presidency.
>
>
>