WHITE RHODESIAN'S APOLOGISE
News
people where living in the stone age. They were so primitive they had not
even tamed a beast of burden, carrying things on their heads or dragging
along the ground. They had not discovered the wheel. The land is now
called Zimbabwe, formerly Rhodesia.
A WHITE RHODESIAN'S APOLOGIES.
We white Rhodesians wish to make a confession. We confess our
sins against the black people of Zimbabwe ( and those of our
forefathers), which are outlined in detail below:-
1. We apologize for giving for giving them doctors, new hospitals,
medical services that enabled them to survive plagues, disasters
and to multiply into uncountable numbers.
2. We apologize for teaching them to read and write the English
language and even for putting their own languages down in writing
for them. We even taught them mathematics and built hundreds (if
not thousands) of schools for them even rebuilding and repairing
same when they were burnt down.
3. We apologize for building factories and shops, which gave them
work. We apologize for taking them into our houses to work, giving
them food and even paying them
4. We apologize for building farms out of barren bush and gardens
from which we fed them (and virtually the rest of Africa)
5. We apologize for giving them clothes and shoes instead of
leaving them in the animal skins they wore before we found them
wandering aimlessly around the plains, mountains and valleys.
6. We apologize for extracting minerals from below the earth,
minerals which had always been there but were unknown to the
local inhabitants. We apologize for paying them to work in these
mines.
7. We apologize for those among us who established charity
organizations to feed and clothe them, while they themselves never
knew the meaning of charity.
8. We apologize for building a network of roads all over the country
which they now use to give Africa one of the highest road accident rates
in the world.
9. We apologize for building huge dams which keep them supplied
with fresh water, even in times of drought.
10. We apologize for paying the lion's share of the countries tax
burden while spending the least upon ourselves.
For all these evil sins we most humble beg forgiveness, and if
they will only accept our apologies, we will gladly take back
all of the above mentioned evil deeds and leave them where we
found them.
Bob Sims
For this post I forgive you for your very naughty promotion of the
"Oxford" scam run by Blair, Brown, Cook, et al. :-)
Unless this is a very clever "double scam", designed to re-establish
credibility along the lines being followed by Hague, you just cannot be
a Millbank Blairite.
In which case I got you wrong - and I apologise.
But supporting Blair in his "class war" against Oxford was very, very
naughty.
Unless of course.... It was certainly a very well attended thread.....
If you find time, perhaps you could Email me ?
Regards, Bob
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>
> News <Ne...@NOSPAMscreamingmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8gqute$93r$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Just over 100 years ago white people moved into a part of Africa where
the
> > people where living in the stone age. They were so primitive they had
not
> > even tamed a beast of burden,
>
> they will not be capable of running, the country ends up in a famine. I
> know what I will be doing when the do gooders, lefties and liberals ask us
> all to put our hands in our pockets to bail them out - a two fingered
salute
> to the veterans, let them starve.
>
> LF
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I entirely agree with that, Lynn.
I was once a regular and generous subscriber to African aid charities.
They will not get a penny out of me now !
And I was at lunch today with another wealthy and well connected
person who (unlike the big mouthed lefties and commie slime who are
always telling us what we should and should not do - but never put
their hands in their pockets) has to my knowledge written some very
large cheques for Africa. His comment was "Not another penny -
and I don't know anybody else who will either !".
Like the commie scum who want us to surrender our country to their
Stalinsit bum chums in Europe - they may steal our property and piss
all over us for a time - but they will pay a very heavy price over a very
long time for doing so !
And they can't look to the EU or Blair to get their hands on our
money by the back door to salt away in a Swiss bank, either. That
scum are too busy lining their own pockets to ever hand any over to
Africa.
Neil Gardner
Your friend Blair is doing his best to stop ordinary Zimbabweans from
determining their own destiny. If Larry thinks colonisation brought wealth and
progress, he failed to apologise for the millions who died in the process and
explain that European colonisers were interested above all in profit.
Anglo-centric education and eurocentric religion served to spread their power.
They first destroyed a civilisation and then claimed they were freeing the
natives from primeval hell. Great Zimbabwe was an advanced civilsation long
before the white man ever set foot south of the Sahara.
Before reposting his colonialist crap, did Larry consider what Britain would be
like today if it had not colonised, exploited and depredated 1/4 of the earth's
land? Was that the Great Britain that forced the Chinese to consume opium or the
Indians to grow tea or Zimbabweans to grow tobacco?
Our great trading nation has evidently amassed its fortunes by exploiting other
people's wealth. Now it's time to compensate white farmers and let them decide
whether to help fellow Zimbabweans become self-sufficient in food or seek a new
life elsewhere.
Regards
Neil
Gaz
"Neil Gardner" <ne...@infotrad.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Cliff Morrison wrote:
>
>
> Does it matter? If it were "British" it would benefit from 3 centuries
> of exploiting the resources of the rest of the world.
These 'world' resources lay underground for 100's of millions of years, are
we the British supposed to have collective guilt for reaching a level of
intellectual, industrial and economic capability which:
a) Gave us the idea to dig into the ground to find what was their
b) and work out what to do with it.
Gaz
>
> Neil
Larry@home
> > -
> >
>
> Your friend Blair is doing his best to stop ordinary Zimbabweans from
> determining their own destiny. If Larry thinks colonisation brought wealth
and
> progress, he failed to apologise for the millions who died in the process
They would have died any way so what is your feeble point?
and
> explain that European colonisers were interested above all in profit.
Of course they were, again what is your feeble point?
> Anglo-centric education
Reading riting and rithmetic
>and eurocentric religion
Chritianity as against what?
> served to spread their power.
> They first destroyed a civilisation
And this civilisation was?
> and then claimed they were freeing the
> natives from primeval hell.
Great Zimbabwe was an advanced civilsation long
> before the white man ever set foot south of the Sahara.
And had flourished and then died, long before the presnt day inhabitants of
Rhodesia, the blacks had moved in and marvelled at the builders.
>
> Before reposting his colonialist crap, did Larry consider what Britain
would be
> like today if it had not colonised, exploited and depredated 1/4 of the
earth's
> land?
I think you'll find it was closer to two thirds rasther than a miserly
quarter.
Was that the Great Britain that forced the Chinese to consume opium,
we didn't force them to consume the opium, we stopped the pirates from
bringing it in and took on the trading ourselves to supply a much needed
drug.
or the
> Indians to grow tea or Zimbabweans to grow tobacco?
Man cannot live by tea and tobacco alone, so we also encouraged them to grow
other crops as well.
>
> Our great trading nation has evidently amassed its fortunes by exploiting
other
> people's wealth.
In the time honoured tradition of all other nations on this Earth.
>Now it's time to compensate white farmers,
why?
>and let them decide
> whether to help fellow Zimbabweans become self-sufficient in food,
they already are
>or seek a new
> life elsewhere.
Why?
>
> Regards
>
> Neil
Kneel Kneel and let me put my cock into your ear so I can Fuck some sense
into you.
>
News
> > > into a part of Africa where the people where
> > > living in the stone age. They were so primitive
> > > they had not even tamed a beast of burden,
> >
> > Well when the so called war veterans take over
> > the white run farms, which they will not be capable
> > of running, the country ends up in a famine. I
> > know what I will be doing when the do gooders,
> > lefties and liberals ask us all to put our hands in
> > our pockets to bail them out - a two fingered
> > salute to the veterans, let them starve.
>
>
> I was once a regular and generous subscriber
> to African aid charities. They will not get a penny
> out of me now !
>
> And I was at lunch today with another wealthy and
> well connected person who (unlike the big mouthed
> lefties and commie slime who are always telling us
> what we should and should not do - but never put
> their hands in their pockets) has to my knowledge
> written some very large cheques for Africa. His
> comment was "Not another penny -
> and I don't know anybody else who will either !".
Because of my post?
> Like the commie scum who want us to surrender
> our country to their Stalinsit bum chums in Europe
>
> < cut >
Do you see reds under the bed? You are paranoid!!! Are you still in the
1960/70s? Do you wear flared pants?
News
> ordinary Zimbabweans from determining
> their own destiny.
????
> If Larry thinks colonisation brought wealth and
> progress, he failed to apologise for the millions
> who died in the process and explain that European
> colonisers were interested above all in profit.
Millions? A bit strong isn't it? The tribal Africans were making slaves of
each other way before the white man came. In Zimbabwe the Matebele enslaved
the Shona (Mugabes tribe). The Brits set them free.
Wealth may have been a factor in moving into these territories, but defence
was the principal motive in Zimbabwe as the Germans may have taken the
territory and threatened British territory to the south. Religion soon
followed which was not money motivated.
> They first destroyed a civilisation
If you can call stone existing tribes that enslaved other tribes then that
is civilisation I suppose. Or is it?
> and then claimed they were freeing the
> natives from primeval hell.
Which they were.
> Great Zimbabwe was an advanced
> civilsation long before the white man
> ever set foot south of the Sahara.
No so. The ruins at Zimbabwe were build the Arabs. It was one of their
trading posts. There was NO great civilisation in Zimbabwe. As soon as the
Arabs left it fell right back into disuse.
> Our great trading nation has evidently
> amassed its fortunes by exploiting other
> people's wealth.
Trade is a two way process.
> Now it's time to compensate white farmers
> and let them decide whether to help fellow
> Zimbabweans become self-sufficient in food
> or seek a new life elsewhere.
Compensating white farmers was in the terms of the independence treaty.
Each time blacks took over they fell into disorder they were so poorly
managed. BTW, most of the blacks don't want the white farmers to leave.
Alex McGurk
Roman farmers with all the nice bits of land
Alex
News wrote in message <8gqute$93r$2...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Just over 100 years ago white people moved into a part of Africa where the
>people where living in the stone age. They were so primitive they had not
'Droid
> These 'world' resources lay underground for 100's of millions of years, are
> we the British supposed to have collective guilt for reaching a level of
> intellectual, industrial and economic capability which:
>
> a) Gave us the idea to dig into the ground to find what was their
> b) and work out what to do with it.
No, but we can at least not try to deny the fact that this was not done with any
interest in the well being of those living where these deposits were being
collected.
'Droid
'Droid
>
> Neil Gardner <ne...@infotrad.clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:39331521...@infotrad.clara.co.uk...
> > > -
> > >
> >
> and
> > progress, he failed to apologise for the millions who died in the process
>
I think the point is the same as that which says that you cannot use a person's
eventual mortality as a defence in a murder trial.
'Droid
'Droid
> > Great Zimbabwe was an advanced
> > civilsation long before the white man
> > ever set foot south of the Sahara.
>
> No so. The ruins at Zimbabwe were build the Arabs. It was one of their
> trading posts. There was NO great civilisation in Zimbabwe. As soon as the
> Arabs left it fell right back into disuse.
They were not built by Arabs. There is no archeological evidence to support this
theory which was based on the prejudice of the initial discoverers.
'Droid
Doug.
AMscreamingmail.com> writes
******************************
Very wise and profound words.
And every word true-blue.
Thank you for writing them. And thank God you had the guts.
Let us now and in the future have no more of the bloody bullshine about
how we bled the Colonies white.
To quote only one example.
At the turn of the century British Army engineers using local labour
tapped the mighty Ganga near its source in the Himalaya and built
hundreds of miles of canals and made fecund thousands of square miles
of scrub desert. Nary a word of appreciation from anyone at all at any
time then or since
I have travelled most of the Grand Trunk Roads and the vast Railway
networks. - been in quite a few of the big Cities.
If we were bleeding the country dry where did the money come from to
build those vast and mighty enterprises.
Time for our traducers to shut their big daft gobs and every Brit to be
proud of himself and his forebears, who carried out mighty deeds.
And stop immediately the stupid cult of apologising , - now growing
rampant in this Country.
Doug.
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News
Similar settlements were built to the north which were definitely Arab. It
follows on...
News
> the Romans but I dont see many
> Roman farmers with all the nice bits of land
You haven't a clue! 100 yeas after the Romans came to Britain Romans had
farms, well a few. They did not like the climate so very few settled in
Britain.
The local Britons were not as primitive as the black African. In no way were
they that primitive.
'Droid
No, it doesn't. The similar settlements were a long, long way to the north. It
is possible there were influences, but there is no doubt that the Arabs did not
build Great Zimbabwe. The whole place has been dug out. All the evidence of
black occupation was initially ignored and thrown out because the assumption was
that Arabs had built it and that was the interesting evidence to find. Then the
diggers reached the bottom: there was no Arab evidence beyond a few trade goods,
and plenty of black African occupation right from construction.
'Droid
'Droid
>
> > Which is exactly what happened in the UK with
> > the Romans but I dont see many
> > Roman farmers with all the nice bits of land
>
> You haven't a clue! 100 yeas after the Romans came to Britain Romans had
> farms, well a few. They did not like the climate so very few settled in
> Britain.
True enough, although many of the Romans that stayed were actual local families
in the first place. Most of the permanent settelrs from the Roman Empire were
ex-military, often from the auxilaries.
> The local Britons were not as primitive as the black African. In no way were
> they that primitive.
In almost every way. And the respects in which Britons were more advanced,
learnt entirely from the Romans, were lost very rapidly. Indeed, up until about
the 16th century there was very little to tell between Europe and Africa
technologically.
'Droid
Dominic Newton
From a white Briton and European, whose father and grandfathers served for
decades to defend this country.
Just over 100 years ago whites invaded southern Africa bringing with them
disease and war. They introduced money, bringing the greed of the modern
world into a country that had existed, without the modern world's perceived
need to make a profit at all cost, including the destruction of
communities -
this was brought by the white settler.
Yes, the Rhodesians brought doctors - they had to so that they could treat
the diseases that the settlers brought with
them; diseases unknown to the local populace who were decimated.
Yes, the Rhodesians brought education and schools - teaching the native
inhabitants
how to serve the white man in the way that massa wanted.
Yes, the Rhodesians brought with them jobs and factories; you graciously
allowed them to come and work for you
on the lands that you had occupied, or in the factories that raped the
natural resources of southern Africa.
Yes, the Rhodesians brought with them clothes and shoes; you trained them to
dress as you dressed, because that was what
was acceptable to the stilted 19th Century Morality that was endemic in the
white settlers- you taught them that if they wanted
the scraps from massa's table they had to act in this way; and where else
could they go? Whitre settlers armed with modern
weapons of war now occupied their traditional lands.
Yes, the Rhodesians brought the idea of charity. You wander why you were
not offered charity by the natives; is a man
who comes onto your land with a gun and sets up home greeted with open arms?
Furthermore, the need for charity in the
wetsern sense did not exist before the White man came- it was made necessary
by the fact that the Rhodesians had
consumed the resources that the natives needed to survive - what was given
back in charity by white organisations was a
very small amount of what should have been the native inhabitant's by right.
Yes you gave them transport systems and dams - to allow you to transport
goods back to the economic centres in which the
Whites were the hegemonic power. You dammmed rivers, draining water from
traditional routes; they had to come to you for
water because you now held the monopoly on it.
Yes you paid the lions share of the country's tax burden - you were the only
ones with the money to do so.
Yes you spent it on the original inhabitants - giving back some of what you
had taken from them in the previous years.
You're damn right you should apologise.
To 'Doug'
Maybe you should check your facts as well.
If you would for a minute examine the history of UDI, the rebels were the
white settlers, who, when threatened with a loss of
hegemonic power to the black native majority, declared their independance
FROM THE BRITISH CROWN. Furthermore,
let us for a minute some of the 'great deeds' that make up the history of
the country called 'great' britain.
1) The subjugation and subsequent oppression of the free peoples of Scotland
and Wales from c. 1300 onwards.
2) The invasion of Ireland and the oppression and slaughter of its people in
the name of religion, but to increase the power
of the English crown. This oppression continues to the present day, and
in it lie the seeds of the deaths of thousands of people,
both Irish and British.
3) The opium wars - a uniquely enterprising form of capitalism. Forcing
people to harvest a narcotic, then selling that same narcotic
back to them and vastly inflated prices, to the point that they are
willing to go to war with their neighbours - so you can then
supply them with arms as well.
4) The first world war - despite the short memories of a vast majority of
people in Britain, it was not merely fought to save Britain
from invasion at the hands of tne vile Hun, but at least in part to
preserve Britains trading power, empire and European interests.
This does not take away from those who fought in that war - they only
did as they were told - the guilt lies with the leaders who
daily sent them to their deaths.
5) The second world war. Britain first failed to protect Germany and the
other defeated countries from ridiculously harsh treatment
under the Paris Peace Settlements, encouraging by default the rise in
extremism in Central & Eastern Europe. Britain then failed to
out the role that she had given herself , by failing, along with her
erstwhile allies to prevent, indeed in some cases being complicit
in the National Socialist march to mastery of Europe.
6) The cold war. Britain's actions against Russia after the socialist
revolution of 1917, in terms of sending troops to fight for the
restoration of the Tsar, helped, along with her allies, to create a
siege mentality among the new Russian regime that was a root
cause of the fascist paranoia that would mark the later Stalinist era.
Furthermore, in doing so, she subjected the Russian people
to decades of oppression and inequality, and effectively cost the world,
again along with her allies, billions upon billions of dollars
each year.
7) The slave trade's 'Golden triangle' (look it up in any GCSE history
book).
Hope this has been of some educational value
Doug. <D...@yarlside.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Larry@home
Dominic Newton <Do...@theseed.net> wrote in message
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martin
>
> Hope this has been of some educational value
>
>
revealed to us how deep-seated is the crisis of confidence affecting
white British people at this time in our history. Why don't you go and
live in Africa, and do yourself and us a favour?
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Before you buy.
Beata M.
destructive colonial process in the current African country of Zimbabwe. The
comment of the original post depicts the ignorant and racist mentality of
the person. I hope the Native Zimbabwen peoples are successful in land
redistrubution.
Dominic Newton
there! Keep on saluting the blood soaked banner of white supremacism.
Larry@home <la...@fsn.com> wrote in message
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martin
IS REALLY THE WORK OF A SICK MIND. IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE A FRACTION
OF WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED THEN I THINK YOU MUST NEED PSYCHIATRIC
TREATMENT. OTHERWISE, YOU REALLY OUGHT TO LEAVE THIS COUNTRY. YOU DON'T
BELONG HERE.
In article <8hrv96$6ur$1...@lure.pipex.net>,
"Dominic Newton" <Do...@theseed.net> wrote:
> Just a few minor corrections to this piece of propaganda.
>
> From a white Briton and European, whose father and grandfathers
served for
> decades to defend this country.
THANK GOD THEY WEREN'T LIKE YOU.
>
> Just over 100 years ago whites invaded southern Africa bringing with
them
> disease and war.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE DISEASES AND WARS BEFORE THE
WHITES SETTLED THERE?
They introduced money, bringing the greed of the modern
> world into a country that had existed, without the modern world's
perceived
> need to make a profit at all cost, including the destruction of
> communities -
> this was brought by the white settler.
WOULD YOU PREFER TO LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT DOES NOT USE MONEY? THEN WHY
WOULD YOU WISH TO INFLICT SUCH A SOCIETY ON OTHERS?
>
> Yes, the Rhodesians brought doctors - they had to so that they could
treat
> the diseases that the settlers brought with
> them; diseases unknown to the local populace who were decimated.
CAN YOU PUT A NAME TO THESE DISEASES? I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY.WHITE
SCIENTISTS CURED DISEASES THAT WERE ENDEMIC TO THE BLACK POPULATION.
>
> Yes, the Rhodesians brought education and schools - teaching the
native
> inhabitants
> how to serve the white man in the way that massa wanted.
THEY TAUGHT THEM HOW TO READ AND WRITE, THUS OPENING UP TO THEM ALL THE
BENEFITS OF WESTERN CIVILISATION.
>
> Yes, the Rhodesians brought with them jobs and factories; you
graciously
> allowed them to come and work for you
> on the lands that you had occupied, or in the factories that raped the
> natural resources of southern Africa.
SETTLERS CREATED FARMS, DUG MINES, LAID DOWN RAILWAYS, CREATED
INDUSTRIES, IF THE BLACKS WERE CAPABLE THEY WOULD HAVE SUSTAINED THESE,
BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT, SO MANY OF THESE INDUSTRIES ARE NOW
UNDERDEVELOPED.
>
> Yes, the Rhodesians brought with them clothes and shoes; you trained
them to
> dress as you dressed, because that was what
> was acceptable to the stilted 19th Century Morality that was endemic
in the
> white settlers- you taught them that if they wanted
> the scraps from massa's table they had to act in this way; and where
else
> could they go? Whitre settlers armed with modern
> weapons of war now occupied their traditional lands.
WHY DID SOUTH AFRICA HAVE SUCH A BIG PROBLEM WITH BLACK IMMIGRATION
FROM OTHER NEIGHBOURING STATES?
>
> Yes, the Rhodesians brought the idea of charity. You wander why you
were
> not offered charity by the natives; is a man
> who comes onto your land with a gun and sets up home greeted with
open arms?
> Furthermore, the need for charity in the
> wetsern sense did not exist before the White man came- it was made
necessary
> by the fact that the Rhodesians had
> consumed the resources that the natives needed to survive - what was
given
> back in charity by white organisations was a
> very small amount of what should have been the native inhabitant's by
right.
BLACKS ARE NEVER IN A POSITION TO OFFER CHARITY FOR THE SIMPLE REASON
THAT THEY LACK THE CAPACITY FOR WEALTH CREATION THAT WHITES POSSESS.
> Yes you gave them transport systems and dams - to allow you to
transport
> goods back to the economic centres in which the
> Whites were the hegemonic power. You dammmed rivers, draining water
from
> traditional routes; they had to come to you for
> water because you now held the monopoly on it.
>
> Yes you paid the lions share of the country's tax burden - you were
the only
> ones with the money to do so.
>
> Yes you spent it on the original inhabitants - giving back some of
what you
> had taken from them in the previous years.
WHITES CREATED THE WEALTH IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>
> You're damn right you should apologise.
DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF ALL WHITES LEFT AFRICA? SHOULD
WE STOP SENDING AID?
> To 'Doug'
>
> Maybe you should check your facts as well.
>
> If you would for a minute examine the history of UDI, the rebels were
the
> white settlers, who, when threatened with a loss of
> hegemonic power to the black native majority, declared their
independance
> FROM THE BRITISH CROWN. Furthermore,
> let us for a minute some of the 'great deeds' that make up the
history of
> the country called 'great' britain.
>
> 1) The subjugation and subsequent oppression of the free peoples of
Scotland
> and Wales from c. 1300 onwards.
SCOTLAND BENEFITED TREMENDOUSLY FROM THE UNION.EXPLAIN HOW THEY WERE
OPPRESSED.EXPLAIN,EXPLAIN,EXPLAIN!!!
> 2) The invasion of Ireland and the oppression and slaughter of its
people in
> the name of religion, but to increase the power
> of the English crown. This oppression continues to the present
day,
HOW? HOW ARE THE IRISH OPPRESSED BY THE BRITISH?
and
> in it lie the seeds of the deaths of thousands of people,
> both Irish and British.
> 3) The opium wars - a uniquely enterprising form of capitalism.
Forcing
> people to harvest a narcotic, then selling that same narcotic
> back to them and vastly inflated prices, to the point that they
are
> willing to go to war with their neighbours - so you can then
> supply them with arms as well.
> 4) ARE YOU SAYING THAT BRITAN WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FIRST WORLD WAR?
The first world war - despite the short memories of a vast majority of
> people in Britain, it was not merely fought to save Britain
> from invasion at the hands of tne vile Hun, but at least in part
to
> preserve Britains trading power, empire and European interests.
> This does not take away from those who fought in that war - they
only
> did as they were told - the guilt lies with the leaders who
> daily sent them to their deaths.
> 5)ARE YOU SAYING THAT BRITAIN WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SECOND WORLD
WAR? The second world war. Britain first failed to protect Germany and
martin
"Beata M." <bea...@gis.net> wrote:
> Dominic, I think your post was a very accurate description of the
> destructive colonial process in the current African country of
Zimbabwe. The
> comment of the original post depicts the ignorant and racist
mentality of
> the person. I hope the Native Zimbabwen peoples are successful in land
> redistrubution.
Beata,
What makes you think that there is any hope for Zimbabwe once the white
settlers, who create almost all the wealth in that country at the
present time, are thrown out? After all, the only black African
countries that have done reasonably well in the last half century or so
have been the ones which continued to be controlled by a white elite. I
refer specifically to South Africa and Zimbabwe. The other black
African countries appear to be worse off than they were 50 years ago
before the British left them to it. Let's face it, the white man in
Africa did, and is still doing, an enormous amount for the blacks, what
with mines, farms, roads, railways, and the rest of the infrastructure
that you need in order to make a developed society, but unfortunately
the blacks could not keep it up because they simply do not have enough
people with the necessary level of intelligence. They are not capable.
And now we are having to send them charity - they are still relying on
the kindness of the white man.
On the other hand, the blacks that have come to our shores have shown
that they are, frankly, surplus to requirements, what with their
leading position in those league tables that indicate a clear failure
to adopt to a modern, civilised society. I refer specifically to things
like crime, drugs, violence (especially against whites), unemployment,
lack of educational attainment, illegitemacy, welfare dependency, and
even rates of AIDS infection.
So your post is the complete reverse of the truth. Black people have
benefited enormously from being around whites, but white people are
beginning to see their civil society crumble and institutions decay
owing to the presence of blacks. I am all for helping those blacks that
live in Africa, but allowing so many to settle here was a catastrophe.
Steve Frazer
> Glad to find an intellectual response from all you die hard nationalists
out
> there! Keep on saluting the blood soaked banner of white supremacism.
>
>
> Larry@home <la...@fsn.com> wrote in message
> news:3949...@news.server.worldonline.co.uk...
> > This is total bollocks Dominic, and you know it.
That WAS an intellectual post from Larry.
Don't want people putting you down do we Larry? ;-)
--
Steve
"The Only Thing Worse Than IGNORANCE Is Acting On It"
http://members.xoom.com/steve_frazer/
Includes "How To Live On A Little" - all the secrets!
Steve Frazer
left with 'Caps Lock' on it.
martin <mart...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> I HAVE READ SOME STUPID AND IGNORANT POSTS ON THIS NEWSGROUP, BUT YOURS
> IS REALLY THE WORK OF A SICK MIND. IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE A FRACTION
> OF WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED THEN I THINK YOU MUST NEED PSYCHIATRIC
> TREATMENT. OTHERWISE, YOU REALLY OUGHT TO LEAVE THIS COUNTRY. YOU DON'T
> BELONG HERE.
He speaks much that is true. Your interpretation of it is very intersting
though.
> In article <8hrv96$6ur$1...@lure.pipex.net>,
> "Dominic Newton" <Do...@theseed.net> wrote:
> > Just over 100 years ago whites invaded southern Africa bringing with
> > them disease and war.
> ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE DISEASES AND WARS BEFORE THE
> WHITES SETTLED THERE?
No he didn't say that at all. They had their own deseases and the white man
brought a whole new set that their immune systems had no defense for. The
common cold, syphalis, etc. We got Malaria in return! They also already
fought tribal wars amongst themselves.
> They introduced money, bringing the greed of the modern
> > world into a country that had existed, without the modern world's
> perceived
> > need to make a profit at all cost, including the destruction of
> > communities -
> > this was brought by the white settler.
> WOULD YOU PREFER TO LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT DOES NOT USE MONEY? THEN WHY
> WOULD YOU WISH TO INFLICT SUCH A SOCIETY ON OTHERS?
He clearly doesn't think it did all good inflicting it on Africa. I would
prefer a largely cashless society but it's a long way off but we do need a
meium of exchange. The trick is to find one that the government can't tax.
The money society hasn't been all good and the debt that Africa is in means
that they are workig to feed the bankers (cockney rhyming) in the already
rich West, who throw peanuts in the form of aid to help them repay the
bankers. Ask yourself if this is good for them now?
> > Yes, the Rhodesians brought doctors - they had to so that they could
> treat
> > the diseases that the settlers brought with
> > them; diseases unknown to the local populace who were decimated.
> CAN YOU PUT A NAME TO THESE DISEASES? I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY.WHITE
> SCIENTISTS CURED DISEASES THAT WERE ENDEMIC TO THE BLACK POPULATION.
Do some research I'm sure you'll find some. Explorers took European diseases
all over the globe.
> > Yes, the Rhodesians brought education and schools - teaching the
> native
> > inhabitants
> > how to serve the white man in the way that massa wanted.
> THEY TAUGHT THEM HOW TO READ AND WRITE, THUS OPENING UP TO THEM ALL THE
> BENEFITS OF WESTERN CIVILISATION.
You assume they wanted it, what arrogance! IT was always done on the
invaders terms, not to benefit the individual but as an investment. The
opportunity was not the same as for the educated white man at all. Why do
you have a problem with history? It's certainly not all bad that aspects of
Western culture are in Africa but it's not all been good either. Remember
the Cold War when Africa was used as a fighting ground by the USA and USSR?
> > Yes, the Rhodesians brought with them jobs and factories; you
> graciously
> > allowed them to come and work for you
> > on the lands that you had occupied, or in the factories that raped the
> > natural resources of southern Africa.
> SETTLERS CREATED FARMS, DUG MINES, LAID DOWN RAILWAYS, CREATED
> INDUSTRIES, IF THE BLACKS WERE CAPABLE THEY WOULD HAVE SUSTAINED THESE,
> BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT, SO MANY OF THESE INDUSTRIES ARE NOW
> UNDERDEVELOPED.
So the places are viable? Has it not occurred to you why they aren't now?
Instead of trying to say the blacks are less capable why not look at the
levels of education when colonial powers left. Those educated were only done
so for menial tasks and there were only a tiny number of well educated
people, no experience of management of companies, the state aparatus, etc.
Unfortunately the colonials were forced out too quickly by those wnating
their countries back. Britain was better than other colonial countries but
they still left piss poor education levels and structures with too few
knowledgable people to run them. Give a mine to people less literate than a
class of primary school children and what would you expect? You can't blame
the people for not being educated when left in charge. The whole
decolonialisation was an utter disaster for both European and Africans.
> WHITES CREATED THE WEALTH IN THE FIRST PLACE.
......for themselves.
> > You're damn right you should apologise.
> DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF ALL WHITES LEFT AFRICA? SHOULD
> WE STOP SENDING AID?
No what is needed is co-operation to make best of a very botched job. Start
by removing all 3rd world debts so that what the people earn they keep. Give
aid in the form of technical assistance so they can avoid the polluting
industrial phase that could finish off the planet. Let them see the West as
helpers not economic colonials.
Steve
> > destructive colonial process in the current African country of
> Zimbabwe. The
> > comment of the original post depicts the ignorant and racist
> mentality of
> > the person. I hope the Native Zimbabwen peoples are successful in land
> > redistrubution.
>
>
> What makes you think that there is any hope for Zimbabwe once the white
> settlers, who create almost all the wealth in that country at the
> present time, are thrown out? After all, the only black African
> countries that have done reasonably well in the last half century or so
> have been the ones which continued to be controlled by a white elite. I
> refer specifically to South Africa and Zimbabwe. The other black
> African countries appear to be worse off than they were 50 years ago
> before the British left them to it. Let's face it, the white man in
> Africa did, and is still doing, an enormous amount for the blacks, what
> with mines, farms, roads, railways, and the rest of the infrastructure
> that you need in order to make a developed society, but unfortunately
> the blacks could not keep it up because they simply do not have enough
> people with the necessary level of intelligence. They are not capable.
> And now we are having to send them charity - they are still relying on
> the kindness of the white man.
> On the other hand, the blacks that have come to our shores have shown
> that they are, frankly, surplus to requirements, what with their
> leading position in those league tables that indicate a clear failure
> to adopt to a modern, civilised society. I refer specifically to things
> like crime, drugs, violence (especially against whites), unemployment,
> lack of educational attainment, illegitemacy, welfare dependency, and
> even rates of AIDS infection.
geez, you'd think that white people didn't commit crime "like rape,
murder, violence (especially against people), burglary, child-abuse,
auto-crimes, mugging etc....... get my point?
"unemployment" - like it's a black thing?
"lack of educational attainment" - and in the UK white students come
top?
"illegitemacy, welfare dependency" Which group black or white do you
think has a higher number of people that could be described as above?
(in the UK)
<snip>
BTW before I get flamed - The above is not a slur on white people
merely an attempt to show that the arguments put forward are rather
pathetic and could easily be reversed.
Regards
Steve
Sid Cochran
"Steve" <sjd...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> martin wrote:
> >
> > In article <skt2vsh...@corp.supernews.com>,
> > "Beata M." <bea...@gis.net> wrote:
> > > destructive colonial process in the current African country of
> > Zimbabwe. The
> > > comment of the original post depicts the ignorant and racist
> > mentality of
> > > the person. I hope the Native Zimbabwen peoples are successful in land
> > > redistrubution.
> >
> >
> > What makes you think that there is any hope for Zimbabwe once the white
> > settlers, who create almost all the wealth in that country at the
> > present time, are thrown out? After all, the only black African
> > countries that have done reasonably well in the last half century or so
> > have been the ones which continued to be controlled by a white elite. I
> > refer specifically to South Africa and Zimbabwe. The other black
> > African countries appear to be worse off than they were 50 years ago
> > before the British left them to it. Let's face it, the white man in
> > Africa did, and is still doing, an enormous amount for the blacks, what
> > with mines, farms, roads, railways, and the rest of the infrastructure
> > that you need in order to make a developed society, but unfortunately
> > the blacks could not keep it up because they simply do not have enough
> > people with the necessary level of intelligence. They are not capable.
> > And now we are having to send them charity - they are still relying on
> > the kindness of the white man.
Perhaps an extreme example of what you're talking about, in which Britain
bears no responsibility whatever, is Haiti. I'm not sure how much blame
accrues to the USA in the circumstances of that unhappy land. On the basis
of no real evidence whatevr, I think that the Clinton administration's
policy
of backing the extreme Leveling tendency of Fr. Aristide's Lavalas party has
tended to suppress any advances the local 'cafe au lait' leadership may have
been able to make.
> > On the other hand, the blacks that have come to our shores have shown
> > that they are, frankly, surplus to requirements, what with their
> > leading position in those league tables that indicate a clear failure
> > to adopt to a modern, civilised society. I refer specifically to things
> > like crime, drugs, violence (especially against whites), unemployment,
> > lack of educational attainment, illegitemacy, welfare dependency, and
> > even rates of AIDS infection.
>
> geez, you'd think that white people didn't commit crime "like rape,
> murder, violence (especially against people), burglary, child-abuse,
> auto-crimes, mugging etc....... get my point?
>
Right on! Maybe Martin's poiint is that the untrained skill of Britain's
Africa-descended population has eclipsed the trained attempts of the
native underclass at the same sort of thing.
> "unemployment" - like it's a black thing?
>
> "lack of educational attainment" - and in the UK white students come
> top?
>
Ah, who does come out on top in the education race? The Asiatic minority?
> "illegitemacy, welfare dependency" Which group black or white do you
> think has a higher number of people that could be described as above?
> (in the UK)
>
> <snip>
>
Das Feind wer hoert mit.
'Droid
>
> "Steve" <sjd...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3952B8...@yahoo.co.uk...
> > martin wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <skt2vsh...@corp.supernews.com>,
> > > "Beata M." <bea...@gis.net> wrote:
> > > > destructive colonial process in the current African country of
> > > Zimbabwe. The
> > > > comment of the original post depicts the ignorant and racist
> > > mentality of
> > > > the person. I hope the Native Zimbabwen peoples are successful in land
> > > > redistrubution.
> > >
> > >
> > > What makes you think that there is any hope for Zimbabwe once the white
> > > settlers, who create almost all the wealth in that country at the
> > > present time, are thrown out? After all, the only black African
> > > countries that have done reasonably well in the last half century or so
> > > have been the ones which continued to be controlled by a white elite. I
> > > refer specifically to South Africa and Zimbabwe. The other black
> > > African countries appear to be worse off than they were 50 years ago
> > > before the British left them to it. Let's face it, the white man in
> > > Africa did, and is still doing, an enormous amount for the blacks, what
> > > with mines, farms, roads, railways, and the rest of the infrastructure
> > > that you need in order to make a developed society, but unfortunately
> > > the blacks could not keep it up because they simply do not have enough
> > > people with the necessary level of intelligence. They are not capable.
> > > And now we are having to send them charity - they are still relying on
> > > the kindness of the white man.
>
> Perhaps an extreme example of what you're talking about, in which Britain
> bears no responsibility whatever, is Haiti. I'm not sure how much blame
> accrues to the USA in the circumstances of that unhappy land. On the basis
> of no real evidence whatevr, I think that the Clinton administration's
> policy
> of backing the extreme Leveling tendency of Fr. Aristide's Lavalas party has
> tended to suppress any advances the local 'cafe au lait' leadership may have
> been able to make.
In addition to the isolation imposed by the white empires when Haiti rebelled.
They were alarmed that such ideas of freedom might spread.
'Droid
Larry@home
Steve Frazer <steve_...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> > Glad to find an intellectual response from all you die hard nationalists
> out
> > there! Keep on saluting the blood soaked banner of white supremacism.
> >
> >
> > Larry@home <la...@fsn.com> wrote in message
> > news:3949...@news.server.worldonline.co.uk...
> > > This is total bollocks Dominic, and you know it.
>
>
> Don't want people putting you down do we Larry? ;-)
People don't put me down, just some small closed minded prats.
> --
>
> Steve
Larry@home
> murder, violence (especially against people), burglary, child-abuse,
> auto-crimes, mugging etc....... get my point?
If there were NO blacks in the UK, we would still have
rape,
> murder, violence (especially against people), burglary, child-abuse,
> auto-crimes, mugging etc.......
added to, by an increase out of all proportion to the Amount of Blacks in
the population.
E.g. Solely white criminals 100% crimes, add in small amount of Blacks and
the crime figures escalate by a significant noticeable amount.
>
> "unemployment" - like it's a black thing?
No it is not a Black thing, but it is proportionatley increased due to the
unnecessary addition of black immigrants.
>
> "lack of educational attainment" - and in the UK white students come
> top?
Generally speaking YES!, Next come Chinese, followed closely by Hindu and
Sikh students, then there is a gap which is followed by the Moslem students,
way down the line, despite assertive education, comes the Black student.
>
> "illegitemacy, welfare dependency" Which group black or white do you
> think has a higher number of people that could be described as above?
> (in the UK)
Obviously the white group, why?, because they have the greatest number of
possible people, however when described as a percentage of the total
population, then the black numbers are way out of proportion to their
numbers.
>
> <snip>
>
> BTW before I get flamed - The above is not a slur on white people
> merely an attempt to show that the arguments put forward are rather
> pathetic and could easily be reversed.
Yes the arguments you present are rather pathetic.
>
> disRegards
>
>
> Steve
Larry@home
> martin <mart...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8is0el$8m7$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > I HAVE READ SOME STUPID AND IGNORANT POSTS ON THIS NEWSGROUP, BUT YOURS
> > IS REALLY THE WORK OF A SICK MIND. IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE A FRACTION
> > OF WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED THEN I THINK YOU MUST NEED PSYCHIATRIC
> > TREATMENT. OTHERWISE, YOU REALLY OUGHT TO LEAVE THIS COUNTRY. YOU DON'T
> > BELONG HERE.
>
> He speaks much that is true. Your interpretation of it is very intersting
> though.
>
> > In article <8hrv96$6ur$1...@lure.pipex.net>,
> > "Dominic Newton" <Do...@theseed.net> wrote:
> > > Just over 100 years ago whites invaded southern Africa bringing with
> > > them disease and war.
>
> > ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE DISEASES AND WARS BEFORE THE
> > WHITES SETTLED THERE?
>
> No he didn't say that at all. They had their own deseases and the white
man
> brought a whole new set that their immune systems had no defense for. The
> common cold, syphalis, etc. We got Malaria in return! They also already
> fought tribal wars amongst themselves.
They have also fought a Tribal War since gaining Independence, The people of
Matabeleland were all but annihilated.
>
> > They introduced money, bringing the greed of the modern
> > > world into a country that had existed, without the modern world's
> > perceived
> > > need to make a profit at all cost, including the destruction of
> > > communities -
> > > this was brought by the white settler.
> > WOULD YOU PREFER TO LIVE IN A SOCIETY THAT DOES NOT USE MONEY? THEN WHY
> > WOULD YOU WISH TO INFLICT SUCH A SOCIETY ON OTHERS?
>
> He clearly doesn't think it did all good inflicting it on Africa. I would
> prefer a largely cashless society but it's a long way off but we do need a
> meium(You are sure you are not lying?)
of exchange. The trick is to find one that the government can't tax.
> The money society hasn't been all good and the debt that Africa is in
means
(that since Independence, the bribes and corruption of African Government
have led to the poor being ripped off, whilst those in POLITICAL power have
lined their pockets at the expense of the population at large, and it is now
that population that is paying the interest.)
> that they are workig(Steve Rhyming Slang) to feed the bankers (cockney
rhyming) in the already
> rich West, who throw peanuts(Groundnuts) in the form of aid to help them
repay the
> bankers. Ask yourself if this is good for them now?
>
> > > Yes, the Rhodesians brought doctors - they had to so that they could
> > treat
> > > the diseases that the settlers brought with
> > > them; diseases unknown to the local populace who were decimated.
> > CAN YOU PUT A NAME TO THESE DISEASES? I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY.WHITE
> > SCIENTISTS CURED DISEASES THAT WERE ENDEMIC TO THE BLACK POPULATION.
>
> Do some research I'm sure you'll find some. Explorers took European
diseases
> all over the globe.
That is why we have a department of tropical diseases in LONDON.
>
> > > Yes, the Rhodesians brought education and schools - teaching the
> > native
> > > inhabitants
> > > how to serve the white man in the way that massa wanted.
> > THEY TAUGHT THEM HOW TO READ AND WRITE, THUS OPENING UP TO THEM ALL THE
> > BENEFITS OF WESTERN CIVILISATION.
>
> You assume they wanted it, what arrogance!
You assume they didn't, what arrogance
> IT was always done on the
> invaders terms, not to benefit the individual but as an investment. The
> opportunity was not the same as for the educated white man at all. Why do
> you have a problem with history? It's certainly not all bad that aspects
of
> Western culture are in Africa but it's not all been good either. Remember
> the Cold War when Africa was used as a fighting ground by the USA and
USSR?
>
> > > Yes, the Rhodesians brought with them jobs and factories; you
> > graciously
> > > allowed them to come and work for you
> > > on the lands that you had occupied, or in the factories that raped the
> > > natural resources of southern Africa.
> > SETTLERS CREATED FARMS, DUG MINES, LAID DOWN RAILWAYS, CREATED
> > INDUSTRIES, IF THE BLACKS WERE CAPABLE THEY WOULD HAVE SUSTAINED THESE,
> > BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE NOT, SO MANY OF THESE INDUSTRIES ARE NOW
> > UNDERDEVELOPED.
>
> So the places are viable? Has it not occurred to you why they aren't now?
> Instead of trying to say the blacks are less capable why not look at the
> levels of education when colonial powers left. Those educated were only
done
> so for menial tasks and there were only a tiny number of well educated
> people, no experience of management of companies, the state aparatus, etc.
Education seems to be your big failing, your spelling is lousy, your
comprehemsion abysmal.
Many Africans were educated at Cambridge and Oxford and other universities
throughout the world, the hope being that they would return to their
homelands with the knowledge and expertise necessary to lift their countries
educational standards, by and large it failed as the newly educated Africans
started Political activism which has led in the main to their being elected
to positions of power within their own countries, from which they have
milked their respective countries economies to their own personal benefit.
> Unfortunately the colonials were forced out too quickly by those
wnating(Steve Rhyming)
> their countries back. Britain was better than other colonial countries but
> they still left piss poor education levels and structures with too few
> knowledgable people to run them. Give a mine to people less literate than
a
> class of primary school children and what would you expect? You can't
blame
> the people for not being educated when left in charge. The whole
> decolonialisation was an utter disaster for both European and Africans.
>
> > WHITES CREATED THE WEALTH IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>
> ......for themselves.
>
> > > You're damn right you should apologise.
>
> > DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF ALL WHITES LEFT AFRICA? SHOULD
> > WE STOP SENDING AID?
>
> No what is needed is co-operation to make best of a very botched job.
Start
> by removing all 3rd world debts so that what the people earn they keep.
It won't work, the Politicians will simply continue to milk the wages earned
for their own benefit.
Steve Frazer
> > He speaks much that is true. Your interpretation of it is very
intersting
> > though.
> You are telling the truth about your education, aren't you Steve?
Yes, that I've had one and don't see things as black and white?
Steve
>
> Steve <sjd...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3952B8...@yahoo.co.uk...
> > martin wrote:
> > >
> > geez, you'd think that white people didn't commit crime "like rape,
> > murder, violence (especially against people), burglary, child-abuse,
> > auto-crimes, mugging etc....... get my point?
> Get your point, how come you singularly fail to get ours?
> If there were NO blacks in the UK, we would still have
> rape,
> > murder, violence (especially against people), burglary, child-abuse,
> > auto-crimes, mugging etc.......
so then really it's a crap argument..
> >
> > "unemployment" - like it's a black thing?
>
> No it is not a Black thing, but it is proportionatley increased due to the
> unnecessary addition of black immigrants.
It would then follow that it would be increased higher due to the
addition
of a higher number of white immigrants. Yet strangely the previous
poster
only mentioned black people....
> >
> > "lack of educational attainment" - and in the UK white students come
> > top?
>
> Generally speaking YES!, Next come Chinese, followed closely by Hindu and
> Sikh students, then there is a gap which is followed by the Moslem students,
> way down the line, despite assertive education, comes the Black student.
ISTR seeing figures that conflict with this - in higher education anyway
-
haven't got them to hand so could be wrong.
>
> >
> > "illegitemacy, welfare dependency" Which group black or white do you
> > think has a higher number of people that could be described as above?
> > (in the UK)
>
> Obviously the white group,
So again not the basis of a good argument and again no mention
of white immigrants.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > BTW before I get flamed - The above is not a slur on white people
> > merely an attempt to show that the arguments put forward are rather
> > pathetic and could easily be reversed.
>
> Yes the arguments you present are rather pathetic.
> >
> > disRegards
LOL - what a funny fellow you are! oh ho my sides... ;-0
> >
> >
> > Steve
*Regards*
Steve
'Droid
> > > Glad to find an intellectual response from all you die hard nationalists
> > out
> > > there! Keep on saluting the blood soaked banner of white supremacism.
> > >
> > >
> > > Larry@home <la...@fsn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3949...@news.server.worldonline.co.uk...
> > > > This is total bollocks Dominic, and you know it.
> >
> >
> > Don't want people putting you down do we Larry? ;-)
>
> People don't put me down, just some small closed minded prats.
They are people.
'Droid
'Droid
> > "lack of educational attainment" - and in the UK white students come
> > top?
>
> Generally speaking YES!, Next come Chinese, followed closely by Hindu and
> Sikh students, then there is a gap which is followed by the Moslem students,
> way down the line, despite assertive education, comes the Black student.
Actually, generally speaking Asian students tend to do best, followed by the
whites.
'Droid
martin
>
> > "lack of educational attainment" - and in the UK white students come
> top?
>
>
Two points concerning educational attainment.
These days, a person can be below average IQ and still easily get a
degree in "Business Studies" or some such at Such-and-Such University,
(which used to be a polytechnic). But these qualifications are not
exactly cherished by employers. There are plenty of ethnic minority
mini-cabbers and shelf fillers with university degrees.
You are quite correct, many whites have low aspirations and they (and
their parents) shortchange themselves when it comes to getting even
those qualifications which are worth the paper they are written on,
(like GCSE's). So young white people are often the least qualified when
they leave school. Were it to be another ethnic group disadvantaged in
this way, then there would be a brouhaha about "racism" keeping them
down, but because it is ethnics doing better than whites, liberals
celebrate. It seems to me that many liberals have a problem with black
failure, and hope that whites will catch them up!
Dominic Newton
africa is because; like you I was born and raised in Britain, but unlike you
i'd quite like to make it a better place rather than living in a past that
never really existed.
martin <mart...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
> >
> > Hope this has been of some educational value
> >
> >
> Yes, half-wit, this has been of great educational value. It has
> revealed to us how deep-seated is the crisis of confidence affecting
> white British people at this time in our history. Why don't you go and
> live in Africa, and do yourself and us a favour?
>
>
Grantland
>Yet another intelligent response - and the reason i don't go and live in
>africa is because; like you I was born and raised in Britain, but unlike you
>i'd quite like to make it a better place rather than living in a past that
>never really existed.
>
>martin <mart...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> >
>> > Hope this has been of some educational value
>> >
>> >
>> Yes, half-wit, this has been of great educational value. It has
>> revealed to us how deep-seated is the crisis of confidence affecting
>> white British people at this time in our history. Why don't you go and
>> live in Africa, and do yourself and us a favour?
Yeah the Brits have all gone queer - too much lovy-dovy touchy-feely
socialism. The brutes are on the dole. Their betters loll in
smarmy guilt. Ugh
Grantland
Grantland
>Yeah the Brits have all gone queer - too much lovy-dovy touchy-feely
>socialism. The brutes are on the dole. Their betters loll in
>smarmy guilt. Ugh
>
>Grantland
The Moon
The Moon is feminine - you are quite right
She's looking just so cool and beautiful tonight.
You look quite hard, you see the knowing spirit;
The glowing spirit
A thing quite cold and sharp; but righteous:
A clean and pure embodiment of light.
The Moon is asking us to be
With Her:
She's lonely, and she hopes to have a mate
She watches, and she sorrows; and she waits.
Where are those valiant spirits?
Where are are those gentle Men?
The Questers and the Seekers:
The searchers for the truth?
Where are the Men of yesteryear: -
Those knights in shining armour;
Those emissaries of light
The crisp and clear and shining dance
Of horses white?
The moon is waiting patiently for us
She's waited now for o so very long
She lives the now - and she is waiting still
Let's seperate ourselves from ourselves
And go to the moon.
Grantland
"Unbending intent and impeccability of spirit"
Dominic Newton
President Mugabe - his right wing pseudo dictatorship prevents full equality
for all zimbabweans, black and white.
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out-and-out dictator!
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