Gypsies...Roma...Travellers...Call them what you like
Robert Henderson
near their land the result is the same...
The simple truth is that a nomadic way of life is incompatible with a
settled population. Gypsies are classic nomads, settling in a camp,
exhausting the resources of the area and then moving on.
Gypsies on a n individual level may behave reasonably, but put them in
a gypsy group and the sociology takes over and they behave badly as a
group.
In Britain, we have perhaps 100,000 gypsies putting two fingers up at
the 60 million other members of the population. They say by their
actions and words, we don't care about your laws - they always refer to
the settled population as the "other" - we will live our lives as we
choose, we shall not pay tax but we shall take all the benefits the
taxpayer provides, we shall rob and threaten and pollute and terrorise
and nothing shall be done to us.... RH
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Mrcheerful
> ... as far as the people who have to put up with them camping on or
> near their land the result is the same...
>
> The simple truth is that a nomadic way of life is incompatible with a
> settled population. Gypsies are classic nomads, settling in a camp,
> exhausting the resources of the area and then moving on.
>
> Gypsies on a n individual level may behave reasonably, but put them
> in a gypsy group and the sociology takes over and they behave badly
> as a group.
>
> In Britain, we have perhaps 100,000 gypsies putting two fingers up at
> the 60 million other members of the population. They say by their
> actions and words, we don't care about your laws - they always refer
> to the settled population as the "other" - we will live our lives as
> we choose, we shall not pay tax but we shall take all the benefits the
> taxpayer provides, we shall rob and threaten and pollute and terrorise
> and nothing shall be done to us.... RH
and what is your solution? I have one, but the do-gooders would never go
along with it.
djornsk
> ... as far as the people who have to put up with them camping on or
> near their land the result is the same...
>
> The simple truth is that a nomadic way of life is incompatible with a
> settled population. Gypsies are classic nomads, settling in a camp,
> exhausting the resources of the area and then moving on.
>
> Gypsies on a n individual level may behave reasonably, but put them in
> a gypsy group and the sociology takes over and they behave badly as a
> group.
>
> In Britain, we have perhaps 100,000 gypsies putting two fingers up at
> the 60 million other members of the population. They say by their
> actions and words, we don't care about your laws - they always refer to
> the settled population as the "other" - we will live our lives as we
> choose, we shall not pay tax but we shall take all the benefits the
> taxpayer provides, we shall rob and threaten and pollute and terrorise
> and nothing shall be done to us.... RH
It's not obvious to me that Gypsies are in less law abiding than many
sections of the settled population. The simplifying assumption that the
righteous "we" are perpetually being ripped off by the unrighteous
"they" is self deception and leads to our own misery and moral/spiritual
impoverishment.
j
Partac
> It's not obvious to me that Gypsies are in less law abiding than many
> sections of the settled population. The simplifying assumption that the
> righteous "we" are perpetually being ripped off by the unrighteous "they"
> is self deception and leads to our own misery and moral/spiritual
> impoverishment.
>
Mrcheerful
I take it you never read the papers, look out of your windows or converse
with anyone? I know that the cop shows are a bit biased, but one I recently
warched lead to the recovery of hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of
stolen stuff, plus several firearms including a machine gun, knuckle
dusters, swords etc. all from a pykie camp they raided, hardly law abiding
nice heather sellers are they?
Francis Burton
Mrcheerful <nbk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>and what is your solution? I have one, but the do-gooders would never go
>along with it.
Is it by any chance a Final one?
Francis
aaa
I grow up near a pykie camp (not in the UK though), and if stuff was
not nailed down, it went. Even my cousins x-ray machine (vet clinic)
was nicked. Police did nothing. Eventually over a thousand locals got
together and raided the camp, driving tractors through it, armed with
shotguns etc. My cousins X-ray machine was recovered, apparantly it
looked like it was being used like a toy, so do not hold out much
chances for those pykie children breeding.
Roger Dewhurst
Not really necessary. Just crush the caravans.
R
Aidy
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> ... as far as the people who have to put up with them camping on or near
> their land the result is the same...
There was a story in the paper the other day about a woman who had a pony
trap stolen from her house just 70 yards from the police station. The
police did nothing then a few days later sent her a letter saying the case
was closed due to not enough evidence. They knew fine well that pikies had
stolen that trap so did what they always do when it comes to
pikies....nothing.
Colin Wilson
Certainly remove any vehicles that are not registered / taxed /
insured.
I wonder what the police response would be to a member of the general
public being injured by a vehicle belonging* to gypsies.
* real proof that the money needed for the shiny new 4x4 top of the
range land cruiser etc. was obtained by legitimate means
Ste
wrote:
> ... as far as the people who have to put up with them camping on or
> near their land the result is the same...
>
> The simple truth is that a nomadic way of life is incompatible with a
> settled population. Gypsies are classic nomads, settling in a camp,
> exhausting the resources of the area and then moving on.
>
> Gypsies on a n individual level may behave reasonably, but put them in
> a gypsy group and the sociology takes over and they behave badly as a
> group.
>
> In Britain, we have perhaps 100,000 gypsies putting two fingers up at
> the 60 million other members of the population. They say by their
> actions and words, we don't care about your laws - they always refer to
> the settled population as the "other" - we will live our lives as we
> choose, we shall not pay tax but we shall take all the benefits the
> taxpayer provides, we shall rob and threaten and pollute and terrorise
> and nothing shall be done to us.... RH
I'm sorry, I'm a little confused; is "gypsy" a new name for those who
are "MPs" or perhaps "non-doms"?
Billy White
"Robert Henderson" <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Jews were classic nomads too until they acquired a homeland in Palestine.
The difference between Jews and Gypsies is that Jews operate within the
system whereas Gypsies choose to operate outside the system.
Gypsies are still engaged in shady practices such as fortune-telling and
other shady operations.
DVH
"Aidy" <noe...@noemail.xxx> wrote in message
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> "Robert Henderson" <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MQUy6Zrp...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> ... as far as the people who have to put up with them camping on or near
>> their land the result is the same...
>
> There was a story in the paper the other day about a woman who had a pony
> trap stolen from her house just 70 yards from the police station.
Trapping ponies is illegal.
abelard
not in the last six weeks of summer...(except on sundays)
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DVH
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> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:56:35 +0100, "DVH" <d...@vhvhvhvh.com> wrote:
>
>>"Aidy" <noe...@noemail.xxx> wrote in message
>>news:OvydnUSBAOHB59rX...@bt.com...
>>> "Robert Henderson" <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:MQUy6Zrp...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>>>> ... as far as the people who have to put up with them camping on or
>>>> near
>>>> their land the result is the same...
>>>
>>> There was a story in the paper the other day about a woman who had a
>>> pony
>>> trap stolen from her house just 70 yards from the police station.
>>
>>Trapping ponies is illegal.
>
> not in the last six weeks of summer...(except on sundays)
People forget about their baited traps and go on holiday. The smell can be
awful.
Maria
But they were even tolerated when they just sold pegs and told fortunes.
Mugging people at cashpoints and stealing clothes from lines and stuff
from sheds is outwith the law, not just a damn nuisance.
¿
wrote:
> The simple truth is that a nomadic way of life is incompatible with a
> settled population. Gypsies are classic nomads, settling in a camp,
> exhausting the resources of the area and then moving on.
Not all Gypsies are nomadic.
They often become settled in urban areas in eastern Europe and America
and they use the accumulated money that they have cheated the gadjos
out of and they buy older buildings in the low rent district.
The first time I encountered Gypsies in Hollywood, a male Gypsy and
his wife and one child rented a one-bedroom flat in the four flat
apartment building I lived in.
The rundown building had been owned by cheapskate Jews for decades,
first it was a Russian Jew who would spend a nickel on the building,
then the building was sold to a French Jew who was even worse.
But he would rent to anybody who came along with a story about how
they would somehow find the money to move in.
At first, there were three Gypsies, then five Gypsies, and then
Gypsies were coming from other buildings to do their laundry and take
showers.
They had half a dozen unregistered cars and the Gypsy man had one car
that hadn't been registered for 15 years. He wanted to hide the car in
my garage, but I wouldn't agree to that.
The Gypsy man asked one of the other American tenants to move out, so
the apartment would be available for more Gyspies to move in. The
other tenant refused to move.
When I finally complained about how dirty and noisy the *nine* Gypsies
were, the Jew complained, "But they are paying *cash*!"
If the Jew got cash instead of a check, he could claim that the
apartment wasn't rented and he was losing money.
The Gypsies were sleeping on the one bed, they were sleeping on the
floor, and they were even sleeping in the closets of the one bedroom
flat!
The Gypsies were engaged in various insurance frauds and workers
compensation scams to make money. The Gypsy man was using five
different names and the Gypsy woman was using *twelve* different
names.
I could go on and on about all the things the Gypsies were doing to
turn the apartment building into a pigpen, but I won't.
I started doing dirty tricks to make them realize they weren't welcome
and they finally moved out.
A neighbor came over to talk to me and he asked me how I'd gotten the
Gypsies to move in only eight months. He said that he'd lived in a
nearby apartment building that the same bunch of Gypsies had driven
everybody else out of.
He said that the Gypsy men would shoot their pistols off inside the
apartment they lived in, punching holes in the ceiling!
Even though that bunch of Gypsies was gone, the problems still weren't
over. The Jew owner *sold* the apartment building to another Gypsy
family that ran a fortune telling parlor in the neighborhood.
The Gypsies couldn't afford to finance the building, so the Jew
carried the loan himself.
The Gypsies didn't do anything to maintain the building for 15 years,
unless they just had to. Finally, the city of Los Angeles Department
of Public Safety inspected ALL apartments in the city to make sure
they met basic standards of habitability.
The Gypsy owner got mad, he took the inspection personally, believing
that his tenants were complaining about his handling of the property.
The flat I was living in for 23 years was rent controlled for the
purpose of providing decent housing for senior citizens. He wanted to
double my rent, but the rent control ordinance wouldn't let him do
that.
The only way he could get me out was to claim he wanted to live in the
run-down flat himself and pay me relocation money, which would be
$5000 if I was over 62 years old. I was within three months of turning
62, so he tried to
force me out earlier.
The Los Angeles legal aid society sued him for fraud because he really
didn't want to live there and the relocation check he sent me was no
good.
He finally had to pay me the $5000. It probably didn't hurt him a bit,
because those Gypsies owned several different apartment complexes,
which they hadn't properly registered and weren't properly
maintaining, and they were probably sitting on a $1 million bank
account...
Salty
Nah, burn them. Lovely bonfire, "I love the smell of roasting Gippo in
the morning..."
There have been a load near me recently. They've crapped in the
bushes, left piles of rubbish, broken glass, used disposable nappies
and beer cans for the farmer to clear up. Smashed fences to get in.
Abused the locals and robbed the local shops; Pigs.
Col Colt
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>
> and what is your solution? I have one, but the do-gooders would never go
> along with it.
rights of nonces like you.
Doug
> near their land the result is the same...
>
> The simple truth is that a nomadic way of life is incompatible with a
> settled population. Gypsies are classic nomads, settling in a camp,
> exhausting the resources of the area and then moving on.
>
> Gypsies on a n individual level may behave reasonably, but put them in
> a gypsy group and the sociology takes over and they behave badly as a
> group.
>
> In Britain, we have perhaps 100,000 gypsies putting two fingers up at
> the 60 million other members of the population. They say by their
> actions and words, we don't care about your laws - they always refer to
> the settled population as the "other" - we will live our lives as we
> choose, we shall not pay tax but we shall take all the benefits the
> taxpayer provides, we shall rob and threaten and pollute and terrorise
> and nothing shall be done to us.... RH
>
and caravan, I would guess that we all have nomadic inclinations, no
doubt due to our hunter-gatherer past. So, in a way, we are all
Gypsies. It is just that some conform to an established norm and
others do not.
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Mrcheerful
and why would you say that? you steaming pile of dog poo. There, that is
clever isn't it? You see, calling names helps no one.
Tony Dragon
You just had to get 'car' into the thread didn't you.
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Doug
> Doug wrote:
> > On 28 June, 11:32, Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> ... as far as the people who have to put up with them camping on or
> >> near their land the result is the same...
>
> >> The simple truth is that a nomadic way of life is incompatible with a
> >> settled population. Gypsies are classic nomads, settling in a camp,
> >> exhausting the resources of the area and then moving on.
>
> >> Gypsies on a n individual level may behave reasonably, but put them in
> >> a gypsy group and the sociology takes over and they behave badly as a
> >> group.
>
> >> In Britain, we have perhaps 100,000 gypsies putting two fingers up at
> >> the 60 million other members of the population. They say by their
> >> actions and words, we don't care about your laws - they always refer to
> >> the settled population as the "other" - we will live our lives as we
> >> choose, we shall not pay tax but we shall take all the benefits the
> >> taxpayer provides, we shall rob and threaten and pollute and terrorise
> >> and nothing shall be done to us.... RH
>
> > Judging by the average person's wander lust, amply aided by car, plane
> > and caravan, I would guess that we all have nomadic inclinations, no
> > doubt due to our hunter-gatherer past. So, in a way, we are all
> > Gypsies. It is just that some conform to an established norm and
> > others do not.
>
>
>
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>It doesn't stop the Roma's being robbing thieving bastards and a bloody
>nuisance, does it?
>:-))
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They are not *all* welsh surely
Tony Dragon
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