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Conservative leaders become whistleblowers, insist on telling the truth about the GOP

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Ramon F. Herrera

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Jun 14, 2013, 3:36:42 AM6/14/13
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It is that time of the year, to parade my massive and growing
collection.

-Ramon

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Ramon F. Herrera

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1) Ask this lady:

"Of course it is racist! My dad cannot say it, but I can".
-Meghan McCain, born and raised in Arizona, when asked about AZ
SB-1070.

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Ramon F. Herrera

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(2) You may want to ask Dick Armey, Founder and Funder of the Tea
Party:

"With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the
nation, Armey says the GOP seems to be saying, “Let’s go out and
alienate them.” Armey said socially conservative Latino and African
American voters are natural constituents for the GOP ... if
Republicans don’t push them away. “The party was born with the
Emancipation Proclamation,” he said. But today, he added, “it can’t
get a black [or Hispanic] vote to save its life.” (**)

http://tinyurl.Com/6bb6tes

Dick Armey, Founder and Funder of the Tea Party.

(**) I am sure you folks wonder what happened after Mr. Armey made
those sensible statements. The likes of Michelle Bachmann and Glenn
Beck told him to STFU, and he obliged: the angry bagger mobs drowned
his calls for rationality.

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Ramon F. Herrera

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(3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do
we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can
we possibly get them back?'"

Steve Schmidt, Top Republican Strategist (*), agreeing: "If we [the
GOP] had a deliberate strategy to antagonize every Latino voter in
this country, it is not possible that we could have done a better
job".

"The Republican Party cannot be a national party if it doesn't compete
in the Hispanic market - Look at those numbers: we have big, big
problems."

(*) Played by Woody Harrelson in the McCain campaign HBO movie.

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Ramon F. Herrera

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Jun 14, 2013, 3:41:08 AM6/14/13
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(4) Check with Jeb Bush:

http://tinyurl.Com/6drgb6h
http://tinyurl.Com/73joubu
http://tinyurl.Com/7d3l9cr
http://swampland.time.Com/2012/02/24/did-jeb-bush-actually-say-that/

Jeb married a Mexican lady, and they lived here in Houston. After she
was ostracized in the country clubs, they decided to move to a city
where Hispanics rule: Miami. He has been one of the most popular
politicians in Florida's history. Founded some Hispanic group (not for
the poor!!).

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Ramon F. Herrera

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(5) Texas GOP official -- "Hispanics and Asian Americans are
"maggots" who voted for Obama"

http://www.star-telegram.Com/2012/11/08/4399621/hardin-county-gop-official-wants.html

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Ramon F. Herrera

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Jun 14, 2013, 3:46:10 AM6/14/13
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(6) Check with this guy:

“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O.
Graham (R, SC). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay
in business for the long term.”

http://tinyurl.Com/8knh2ul

ps: Where he tactfully said "anger" he meant "filled with hatred" or
"racists"

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Ramon F Herrera

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(7) Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's chief of staff : 'My
party is full of racists’

http://goo.gl/NbVgK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3HsZ_4fZoU

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Ramon F Herrera

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(8) Colin Powell Accuses GOP Of Racism: They ‘Still Look Down On
Minorities'

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/colin-powell-accuses-gop-of-racism-they-still-look-down-on-minorities/

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Ramon F Herrera

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(9) “Republicans have been losing both the respect and votes of a
group of people who already identify with many of our beliefs in
family, faith and conservative values. Hispanics should be a natural
and sizable part of the Republican base,” Rand Paul said. “But they
have steadily drifted away from the GOP in each election. I think this
says more about Republicans than it does about Hispanics.”

http://www.washingtonpost.Com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/03/19/rand-paul-on-immigration-reform/

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Ramon F. Herrera

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BeamMeUpScotty

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Does he know what a racist is?


And isn't the world full of racist, I know the Democrat-Socialist party
is full of Liberal racist types.

--



*Rumination*
#4 - When it comes to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, there
are NO moderates.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 14, 2013, 11:08:15 AM6/14/13
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On 6/14/2013 3:46 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> (6) Check with this guy:
>
> “The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O.
> Graham (R, SC). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay
> in business for the long term.”


The whole idea that people vote by skin color is racist.

If you pander to people that tell you this you are lapping up their
racist propaganda.

If you put your skin color above your country and vote race rather than
voting what is best for the Nation, you are the racist.


What people do this, It's NOT a race that does this it's the Liberal
ideology that is based on race that does this. The core values of
Liberalism are about race and use race as a tool to use to get
elected.... rather than voting for what's best for the Nation as their
basic core value.


#11 - A little Liberalism like a little alcohol, can be a good thing but
when either one of them take control, they become self destructive.

*Rumination*

#1 - Liberalism is based on race and is inherently racist because in
Liberalism, race is the one thing from which all else is derived.

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 14, 9:40 am, BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

> And isn't the world full of racist, I know the
> Democrat-Socialist party is full of Liberal racist types.

Can you back up that contention using the same (*) strategy as I did?

I dare you to find ONE Liberal who says "My party is full of racists".

-Ramon

(*) Genial, if you pardon my lack of modesty.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 14, 2013, 11:27:54 AM6/14/13
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On 6/14/2013 11:08 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
> On Jun 14, 9:40 am, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
> > And isn't the world full of racist, I know the
> > Democrat-Socialist party is full of Liberal racist types.
>
> Can you back up that contention using the same (*) strategy as I did?
>
> I dare you to find ONE Liberal who says "My party is full of racists".


I dare you to find a Liberal that isn't lying about their ideology.


Ramon F. Herrera

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Jun 14, 2013, 11:37:22 AM6/14/13
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On Jun 14, 10:27 am, BeamMeUpScotty
You just insulted A LOT OF VOTERS!

Do Jews know that the real anti-Semite, Neo-Nazi party is the
Democrat???

-Ramon

NB: Jews are the most loyal Democratic voters (75%), only surpassed by
Blacks (96%).

The truth will set you free

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Of gay porno?

The truth will set you free

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American Jews relish the role of martyr. They can't wait to be punished
by Obama and the Maxists. They will sing all the way to the showers.

deadrat

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On 6/14/13 10:08 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 3:46 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
<snipped: projection about race/>

Oh, look! Nothing left.


BeamMeUpScotty

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Child porn...


Liberals are very accepting of sexual differences.


Loving children is really no worse than any other sexual preference
according to Liberalism.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 14, 2013, 1:12:11 PM6/14/13
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On 6/14/2013 11:37 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Jun 14, 10:27 am, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>> On 6/14/2013 11:08 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 14, 9:40 am, BeamMeUpScotty
>>> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > And isn't the world full of racist, I know the
>>> > Democrat-Socialist party is full of Liberal racist types.
>>
>>> Can you back up that contention using the same (*) strategy as I did?
>>
>>> I dare you to find ONE Liberal who says "My party is full of racists".
>>
>
> > I dare you to find a Liberal that isn't lying about their ideology.
>
> You just insulted A LOT OF VOTERS!

The truth is more important to me than any votes I may produce by
sucking up to and lying to people.


I'd rather go down in flames telling the truth, than to sell my soul to
get a few votes like you've been doing.


You have taught us a lot about your self and your Liberal ideoreligion
right here right now.




BeamMeUpScotty

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Liberal-Socialist censorship is funny stuff isn't it?


delete my post and use the IRS to silence the TEA PARTY..... That's a
positive plan for a Nation so proud of its freedoms.

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 14, 11:22 am, The truth will set you free
<deutsc...@mutter.com> wrote:

> American Jews relish the role of martyr.
> They can't wait to be punished by Obama and the Maxists.
> They will sing all the way to the showers.

We will take your posts as an admission that you are in Grupo Número
Uno.

-Ramon

--------------------------------

There are THREE kinds of Conservatives:

• One group is busy spreading hatred

• Another group is busy denying that the first group exists

• The 3rd. group is Colin Powell

BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/14/2013 3:40 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> (3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do
> we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can
> we possibly get them back?'"
>

Why would Republicans want people that would vote based on skin color?


You must want the KKK voters too, because they will also vote based on
skin color like you Liberals want people to do.


Their actual skin color is irrelevant, the important fact is that they
will vote based on skin color. That's the basis of Liberalism.

BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/14/2013 3:38 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> "With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the
> nation,

...."]


Skin color is reduced by Liberalism to being a voting bloc?


Boy is that racist.





BeamMeUpScotty

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WHO????????

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 14, 11:56 am, BeamMeUpScotty
Scott:

I dare (invite you, encourage you, ask you, whatever) you to declare
your position respect to the post below.

Let's pretend that people in Congress are reading your answer.

-Ramon

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From: The truth will set you free <deutsc...@mutter.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:22:03 -0700
Local: Fri, Jun 14 2013 11:22 am
Subject: Re: Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's chief of staff :
'My party is full of racists’

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 14, 2013, 1:57:12 PM6/14/13
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My position is that I didn't write it.....





BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/14/2013 12:52 PM, deadrat wrote:
Liberal-Socialist censorship is funny stuff isn't it?


delete my post and use the IRS to silence the TEA PARTY..... That's a
positive plan for a Nation so proud of its freedoms.

You must be in favor of FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING AMERICA so that we no
longer have to be bothered by any freedoms.

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 14, 12:57 pm, BeamMeUpScotty
[In a very irresponsible way, Scott wrote:]
> My position is that I didn't write it.....

But you are making jokes with the author. You provide him legitimacy.
You two laugh together. You welcome him as voter for your candidates.

You then wonder why Jewish voters reject you massively (regardless of
how many aircraft carriers or other war toys the Republicans give
Israel).

I would never allow a Liberal to make a comment like that without
giving them an earful/eyeful.

Interestingly, one NEVER finds those comments from Liberals.

The left hates IDEAS (which is fine!)
The Right (PEOPLE).

-Ramon

BeamMeUpScotty

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I laugh and joke with the check-out girl at the grocery store.... That
doesn't mean I agree that she should beat her elderly mother and steal
the old ladies Social Security check.


What a useless human bag of water you are.


Are you Liberal types really this desperate?


You want to destroy me on a personal level with your Saul Alinsky "RULES
FOR RADICALS" tactics and you're desperately trying to link me to
anything that will help you engage in your agenda of personal attacks?


You Liberals try so hard to group people together so you can use their
groups differences to drive a wedge and destroy others possible
alliances, that's very duplicitous and underhanded.







This is just pitiful Liberal behavior, have you violated any religious
organizations or any TEA PARTY GROUPS at you Government JOB in the IRS?

Hows was that one "almost as good as yours wasn't it?"





deadrat

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The IRS didn't silence the teahadists, you blithering ignoramus. The
IRS held up tax-free status for some of the money-laundering operations.
But this couldn't affect their political activities. Their political
donations weren't tax deductible whether they got registration or not;
their expenditures on individual campaigns were taxable whether they got
registration of not. Tax exemption would have been retroactive, and so
far the only groups that have had tax-exempt status rejected were
liberal groups.

In any case, these weren't money-making operations; they were money
spending operations.

deadrat

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On 6/14/13 12:44 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 3:40 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> (3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do
>> we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can
>> we possibly get them back?'"
>>
>
> Why would Republicans want people that would vote based on skin color?

It's their base?



deadrat

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Er, Sparky? Latinos don't form a race. You might want to get that
straight about your future masters.


deadrat

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As she rolls her eyes in contempt, no doubt.

> That
> doesn't mean I agree that she should beat her elderly mother and steal
> the old ladies Social Security check.
>
>
> What a useless human bag of water you are.
>
>
> Are you Liberal types really this desperate?
>
>
> You want to destroy me on a personal level

Er, Sparky? No one gives a shit about you on a personal level. OR any
level.

> with your Saul Alinsky "RULES FOR RADICALS" tactics

Have read them? There's nothing nefarious in them.

> and you're desperately trying to link me to
> anything that will help you engage in your agenda of personal attacks?

Crymeafugginriver, you hypocrite. You're one of the most abusive
posters on misc.legal. But here's a hint: just 'cause people make fun
of your ignorance, doesn't mean anyone is out to destroy you. It's just
usenet.

<projection>
> You Liberals try so hard to group people together so you can use their
> groups differences to drive a wedge and destroy others possible
> alliances, that's very duplicitous and underhanded.
</projection>

It's always about the projection.

>
> This is just pitiful Liberal behavior, have you violated any religious
> organizations or any TEA PARTY GROUPS at you Government JOB in the IRS?

The IRS hasn't violated any teahadist or religious organization.

<snip/>

BeamMeUpScotty

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Tell it to your racist Liberal pals.....


I was responding to the LOGIC I was handed in the post.



--



*Rumination*
#52 - Socialism is a philosophy of mediocrity, a creed of intolerance,
and a feeling of malice towards the good fortune of others!

BeamMeUpScotty

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But your Liberal pal just told me that the Latino block of voters was
all Liberal voters..... I figure you want racial blocks so you must
want the KKK too.


They vote as a racial block.



Are you discriminating by racial blocks that you want to woo?



What a sorry pack of racists you Liberals are.

BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/14/2013 4:29 PM, deadrat wrote:
> On 6/14/13 12:19 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>> On 6/14/2013 12:52 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>> On 6/14/13 10:08 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/2013 3:46 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <snipped: projection about race/>
>>>
>>> Oh, look! Nothing left.
>>>
>>>
>> Liberal-Socialist censorship is funny stuff isn't it?
>>
>>
>> delete my post and use the IRS to silence the TEA PARTY..... That's a
>> positive plan for a Nation so proud of its freedoms.
>>
> The IRS didn't silence the teahadists, you blithering ignoramus. The
> IRS held up tax-free status for some of the money-laundering operations.




So the IRS violated the TEA PARTY'S RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH by taxing them
and NOT taxing the Liberal free speech?


Sounds like it was an attempt to suppress free speech to me. Taxing
free speech is not only unconstitutional it unAmerican.


What kind of Socialist Communist Liberals bastards would do such a
thing? Are they all from Chicago?





deadrat

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On 6/14/13 4:25 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 4:31 PM, deadrat wrote:
>> On 6/14/13 12:46 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2013 3:38 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>> "With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the
>>>> nation,
>>>
>>> ...."]
>>>
>>>
>>> Skin color is reduced by Liberalism to being a voting bloc?
>>>
>>>
>>> Boy is that racist.
>>
>> Er, Sparky? Latinos don't form a race. You might want to get that
>> straight about your future masters.
>>
>>
> "Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc"

That may be, but that bloc is not based on race.
>
>
> Tell it to your racist Liberal pals.....
>
>
> I was responding to the LOGIC I was handed in the post.

Don't kid a kidder, Sparky. You wouldn't know logic (or LOGIC) if it
bit you in the ass.


deadrat

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On 6/14/13 4:29 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 4:30 PM, deadrat wrote:
>> On 6/14/13 12:44 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2013 3:40 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> (3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do
>>>> we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can
>>>> we possibly get them back?'"
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why would Republicans want people that would vote based on skin color?
>>
>> It's their base?
>
> But your Liberal pal just told me that the Latino block of voters was
> all Liberal voters..... I figure you want racial blocks so you must
> want the KKK too.

Latinos come in all shades of skin color. They aren't a race, and are
quite disparate ethnically. They share certain experiences, and they
vote their perceived interests. Just like us white folks.

> They vote as a racial block.

How many Latinos live on your racial block?

"Block" Bwahahahahahahahaha!

Worried that they'll move next door?

> Are you discriminating by racial blocks that you want to woo?

Whatever that means.

> What a sorry pack of racists you Liberals are.

Keep telling Latinos that they form a mindless bloc of voters. Keep
telling Latinos that Democrats are racist for supporting issues that
Latinos find important. They love hearing that.

Well, the ones that habla Ingles do.

deadrat

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On 6/14/13 4:33 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 4:29 PM, deadrat wrote:
>> On 6/14/13 12:19 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2013 12:52 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/13 10:08 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/2013 3:46 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> <snipped: projection about race/>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, look! Nothing left.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Liberal-Socialist censorship is funny stuff isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>> delete my post and use the IRS to silence the TEA PARTY..... That's a
>>> positive plan for a Nation so proud of its freedoms.
>>>
>> The IRS didn't silence the teahadists, you blithering ignoramus. The
>> IRS held up tax-free status for some of the money-laundering operations.
>
>
>
>
> So the IRS violated the TEA PARTY'S RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH by taxing them
> and NOT taxing the Liberal free speech?

The only groups that had their tax-exempt status denied were liberal
groups. The teahadists had their applications delayed, but that
wouldn't have mattered for their status as 501(c)4's, which are required
to register. It's very unlikely these teahadist money launderers had
any money left over in 2012 to tax. They were in business to spend
money to influence elections.

> Sounds like it was an attempt to suppress free speech to me.

But you're an ignoramus. All sorts of nonsense "sounds like" to you.

> Taxing
> free speech is not only unconstitutional it unAmerican.

Nobody is taxing speech. These organizations applied for an exemption
from taxes. The worst that happened was that some of them had to
resubmit their applications.

> What kind of Socialist Communist Liberals bastards would do such a
> thing? Are they all from Chicago?

It's all made up to manipulate you into a hissy fit. And it worked.
Ignoramuses like you are always easy to manipulate. Again:

None of the 501(c)4 donations were tax deductible, with or without
registration.

All of the 501(c)4 expenditures on individual campaigns were taxable
with or without registration.

The 501(c0)4's could claim tax exempt status with or without
registration. Registration would be valuable as a safe harbor, though.
In any case, it's unlikely these groups had money left over to tax.
They were in business to spend it, not save it.


BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/14/2013 6:07 PM, deadrat wrote:
> On 6/14/13 4:25 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>> On 6/14/2013 4:31 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>> On 6/14/13 12:46 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/2013 3:38 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>>> "With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the
>>>>> nation,
>>>>
>>>> ...."]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Skin color is reduced by Liberalism to being a voting bloc?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Boy is that racist.
>>>
>>> Er, Sparky? Latinos don't form a race. You might want to get that
>>> straight about your future masters.
>>>
>>>
>> "Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc"
>
> That may be, but that bloc is not based on race.

Then why is a crime against a Latino a racial hate crime if you call
him/her a "Beaner" You can change that out with black guy and calling
him/her the appropriate slur. Any way you cut it, Latino's are a
"racial" block in the Liberal world. I see people as different and
NOne vote as a block

Now I'm confused..... when is a racial hate crime NOT about race?


Only when the Race is Latino?


“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her
experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a
white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor,


Are white males a race?

BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/14/2013 6:14 PM, deadrat wrote:
> On 6/14/13 4:29 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>> On 6/14/2013 4:30 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>> On 6/14/13 12:44 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/2013 3:40 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do
>>>>> we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can
>>>>> we possibly get them back?'"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would Republicans want people that would vote based on skin color?
>>>
>>> It's their base?
>>
>> But your Liberal pal just told me that the Latino block of voters was
>> all Liberal voters..... I figure you want racial blocks so you must
>> want the KKK too.
>
> Latinos come in all shades of skin color. They aren't a race, and are
> quite disparate ethnically. They share certain experiences, and they
> vote their perceived interests. Just like us white folks.


So do blacks and whites.... yet you count those colors as voter blocks.
And I keep hearing Democrats tell republicans that they are chasing away
the Latino voting block. This run and hide from that is funny.

What color is a race hate crime when you use the "N" word? If I call a
white guy that "N" word while kicking his ass, is it a hate crime?


In a racial crime you want to have miles of room to fudge the race but
suddenly you want to split hairs on what a Latino really is. You
Liberals are pitiful. You Liberals better learn to check your racism
at the door because I intend to call you Libs on it every single time.
So I plan on being busier than a $2 whore on a Friday night.

deadrat

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to
On 6/14/13 5:31 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 6:07 PM, deadrat wrote:
>> On 6/14/13 4:25 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2013 4:31 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/13 12:46 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/2013 3:38 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>>>> "With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the
>>>>>> nation,
>>>>>
>>>>> ...."]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Skin color is reduced by Liberalism to being a voting bloc?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Boy is that racist.
>>>>
>>>> Er, Sparky? Latinos don't form a race. You might want to get that
>>>> straight about your future masters.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> "Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc"
>>
>> That may be, but that bloc is not based on race.
>
> Then why is a crime against a Latino a racial hate crime if you call
> him/her a "Beaner"

It's not a crime to call someone a "Beaner."

> You can change that out with black guy and calling
> him/her the appropriate slur. Any way you cut it, Latino's are a
> "racial" block in the Liberal world. I see people as different and
> NOne vote as a block

One person a bloc cannot make. What percentage of old white men voted
for Rmoney? Were they a bloc?

> Now I'm confused.....

I know, Sparky. Still and again.

> when is a racial hate crime NOT about race?

Hate crimes are crimes motivated by animus toward a person based on various
characteristics -- race, ethnicity, religion, etc.

> Only when the Race is Latino?

There is no Latino race.
>
> “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her
> experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a
> white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor,

And then she went on to explain that such feeling was dangerous, which
is why judges must be guided by the law. Where is the word race applied
to Latinos in this quote?

> Are white males a race?

Half of one.

Latinos are people who came from or whose ancestors came from
Spanish-speaking regions. They are all shades of skin color -- white,
brown, black.

deadrat

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On 6/14/13 5:46 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 6:14 PM, deadrat wrote:
>> On 6/14/13 4:29 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2013 4:30 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/13 12:44 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/2013 3:40 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do
>>>>>> we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can
>>>>>> we possibly get them back?'"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would Republicans want people that would vote based on skin color?
>>>>
>>>> It's their base?
>>>
>>> But your Liberal pal just told me that the Latino block of voters was
>>> all Liberal voters..... I figure you want racial blocks so you must
>>> want the KKK too.
>>
>> Latinos come in all shades of skin color. They aren't a race, and are
>> quite disparate ethnically. They share certain experiences, and they
>> vote their perceived interests. Just like us white folks.
>
>
> So do blacks and whites....

A small to vanishing number of black people have white skin. A small to
vanishing number of white people have black skin.

> yet you count those colors as voter blocks.

I don't count anybody. Race is self-identified.

> And I keep hearing Democrats tell republicans that they are chasing away
> the Latino voting block. This run and hide from that is funny.

Voting blocs need not be based on race. What's so hard about this?

> What color is a race hate crime when you use the "N" word? If I call a
> white guy that "N" word while kicking his ass, is it a hate crime?

If you attacked him because he was white or because you mistakenly
thought he was black, then yes. What's your point?

> In a racial crime you want to have miles of room to fudge the race but
> suddenly you want to split hairs on what a Latino really is.

A Latino is someone from a Spanish-speaking culture or whose ancestors
were. That's the definition. It's not mine.

> You
> Liberals are pitiful. You Liberals better learn to check your racism
> at the door because I intend to call you Libs on it every single time.
> So I plan on being busier than a $2 whore on a Friday night.

You're gonna be hard pressed to have more than $5 at the end of the
night, Sparky. The only thing you can call is attention to your ignorance.

> “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her
> experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a
> white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor,

I have no idea why you think this is important.


Bill Graham

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Jun 14, 2013, 7:29:27 PM6/14/13
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Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1) Ask this lady:
>
> "Of course it is racist! My dad cannot say it, but I can".
> -Meghan McCain, born and raised in Arizona, when asked about AZ
> SB-1070.

And you think some statement by some unknown lady transcends my logic? Why
would you think that? Have I proved to you that I am incapable of thinking
for myself, and need some unknown surragate to do it for me?

Why don't you address the real problem. Arizona is the whipping boy for
millions of illegals coming across our border into this country and going no
further that Arizona in order to collect government handed out freebies. Of
course the real problem is the freebies. - They shouldn't even exist. But if
you liberals want them, then figure out some waqy for Arizona to get them to
its citizens and not to illegals. And, while you are at it, figure out how
to keep those illegals from traveling to other states and destroying their
freebie systems. IOW, address the real problem.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 14, 2013, 7:33:18 PM6/14/13
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On 6/14/2013 7:20 PM, deadrat wrote:
> On 6/14/13 5:31 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>> On 6/14/2013 6:07 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>> On 6/14/13 4:25 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/2013 4:31 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/13 12:46 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/14/2013 3:38 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>>>>> "With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the
>>>>>>> nation,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...."]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skin color is reduced by Liberalism to being a voting bloc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Boy is that racist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Er, Sparky? Latinos don't form a race. You might want to get that
>>>>> straight about your future masters.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> "Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc"
>>>
>>> That may be, but that bloc is not based on race.
>>
>> Then why is a crime against a Latino a racial hate crime if you call
>> him/her a "Beaner"
>
> It's not a crime to call someone a "Beaner."


That's pitiful, playing games when we both know that three guys of a
different color whip one person of another race and they call the person
getting their ass kicked a racial slur.... you and I know that that
slur will be used to make it a race hate crime. Unless maybe it's a
white male getting that ass whooping.


You hide from "race" when it's you calling an ethnic group a racial name
but when you get to cry that there was a hate crime, suddenly you want
to make it all vague and put any racial slur from a KKK member into the
hate crime box.




--



*Rumination*
#12 - It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts.

Bill Graham

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Jun 14, 2013, 7:36:20 PM6/14/13
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Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> (3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do
> we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can
> we possibly get them back?'"
>
> Steve Schmidt, Top Republican Strategist (*), agreeing: "If we [the
> GOP] had a deliberate strategy to antagonize every Latino voter in
> this country, it is not possible that we could have done a better
> job".
>
> "The Republican Party cannot be a national party if it doesn't compete
> in the Hispanic market - Look at those numbers: we have big, big
> problems."
>
> (*) Played by Woody Harrelson in the McCain campaign HBO movie.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

It isn't the, "Hispanic Market" that's the problem. Its, the freebie market.
What kind of an economic system woulde steal from the industrious and give
to the indolent, and for how long would such a system survive? Why don't you
guys see that there is no way that everyone can live off of the government?
The obvious way to go is to insist that all who can should work and pay
their own way. At the least, these should be idolized, and at best, they
should get more than everyone else.

Bill Graham

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Jun 14, 2013, 7:38:46 PM6/14/13
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Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> (4) Check with Jeb Bush:
>
> http://tinyurl.Com/6drgb6h
> http://tinyurl.Com/73joubu
> http://tinyurl.Com/7d3l9cr
> http://swampland.time.Com/2012/02/24/did-jeb-bush-actually-say-that/
>
> Jeb married a Mexican lady, and they lived here in Houston. After she
> was ostracized in the country clubs, they decided to move to a city
> where Hispanics rule: Miami. He has been one of the most popular
> politicians in Florida's history. Founded some Hispanic group (not for
> the poor!!).
>
But he's a Republican! How can you admit he's capable of doing anyone any
good at all? I thought all Republicans were children of Satan.....

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 14, 2013, 7:42:45 PM6/14/13
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On 6/14/2013 7:36 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> (3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do
>> we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can
>> we possibly get them back?'"
>>
>> Steve Schmidt, Top Republican Strategist (*), agreeing: "If we [the
>> GOP] had a deliberate strategy to antagonize every Latino voter in
>> this country, it is not possible that we could have done a better
>> job".
>>
>> "The Republican Party cannot be a national party if it doesn't compete
>> in the Hispanic market - Look at those numbers: we have big, big
>> problems."
>>
>> (*) Played by Woody Harrelson in the McCain campaign HBO movie.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
> It isn't the, "Hispanic Market" that's the problem.

No but the Fact Liberals divide people up like that and suggest they
vote a certain way because their skin is within a specific range of
color is telling about Liberalism.


Its says little about the voting but a lot about who the real racists are.



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#24 - Business is the art of making painful choices and getting it right
often enough to stay in business.

Bill Graham

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Jun 14, 2013, 7:47:26 PM6/14/13
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Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> (5) Texas GOP official -- "Hispanics and Asian Americans are
> "maggots" who voted for Obama"
>
> http://www.star-telegram.Com/2012/11/08/4399621/hardin-county-gop-official-wants.html

In his first Presidentiol bid, 95% of the, "Third World People" voted for
Obama, so he is correct.... Obama won the presidency partly because he was
half black. All the white votes he got were because he was a good,
campaigner and looked like he would make a good president. I personally
liked him better than Mcain, but I couldn;t vote for a liberal. If Jesus
Christ was running on the Democratic ticket as a liberal, and Adolf Hitler
was running on the Republican ticket as a conservative, I would vote for
Adolf....... I am as prejudiced against liberals as the third world
population in this country is against white people.....

Bill Graham

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Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (8) Colin Powell Accuses GOP Of Racism: They ‘Still Look Down On
> Minorities'
>
>
> http://www.mediaite.com/tv/colin-powell-accuses-gop-of-racism-they-still-look-down-on-minorities/

Is that why 95% of the minorities in this country voted for Obama? (While he
got nearly 50% of the white vote)

The facts deny your assertion, Ramon.

Bill Graham

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Jun 14, 2013, 8:42:41 PM6/14/13
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Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Jun 14, 9:40 am, BeamMeUpScotty
> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
> > And isn't the world full of racist, I know the
> > Democrat-Socialist party is full of Liberal racist types.
>
> Can you back up that contention using the same (*) strategy as I did?
>
> I dare you to find ONE Liberal who says "My party is full of racists".
>
> -Ramon
You can't, because liberals define racism as discrimination against people
of color, and deny that it is also discrimination against white people. IOW,
only white people can be racists to a liberal. Discrimination against white
people, is, "Reverse discrimination" and is perfectly ligitimate to a
liberal. In my case, I broaden it to mean any discrimination against anyone
because of anything he/she had no control over, but was either born with, or
raised into from birth. Discrimination against gays is racism in my
book.....

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 14, 6:51 pm, "Bill Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ramon F Herrera wrote:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > (8) Colin Powell Accuses GOP Of Racism: They ‘Still Look Down On
> > Minorities'
>
> >http://www.mediaite.com/tv/colin-powell-accuses-gop-of-racism-they-st...
>

> Is that why 95% of the minorities in this country
> voted for Obama?

That's BS. I wish it were true, though!! See actual percentages below.

-Ramon

--------------------------

Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and distilled?

The only ones qualified to make a statement are the victims of
prejudice, persecution and racism themselves. Let's ask them, shall
we?

Here's their response (2008):

- Black folks voted for Obama, by a 96% margin.
- Jewish folks voted for Obama, by a 75% margin.
- Hispanic folks voted for Obama, by a 66% margin.
- Asian folks voted for Obama, by a 63% margin.
- Gay folks voted for Obama, by an unknown margin.

ps: Oh, I almost forgot the largest minority of all:

http://patriot.Net/~ramon/misc/GOP-Hates-Women-and-Feeling-is-Mutual.jpg
http://www.usatoday.Com/news/politics/story/2012-04-01/swing-states-poll/53930684/1

ps: the 2012 percentages are even better.


Bill Graham

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The truth will set you free wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 12:36 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>
>> It is that time of the year, to parade my massive and growing
>> collection.
>>
>> -Ramon
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
> Of gay porno?

For every item in his collection, he passed up two that proved his
opponent's case, but they ended up in his garbage can.....

Bill Graham

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The truth will set you free wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 8:37 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>> On Jun 14, 10:27 am, BeamMeUpScotty
>> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2013 11:08 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 14, 9:40 am, BeamMeUpScotty
>>>> <ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > And isn't the world full of racist, I know the
>>>> > Democrat-Socialist party is full of Liberal racist types.
>>>
>>>> Can you back up that contention using the same (*) strategy as I
>>>> did?
>>>
>>>> I dare you to find ONE Liberal who says "My party is full of
>>>> racists".
>>>
>>
>> > I dare you to find a Liberal that isn't lying about their
>> ideology. You just insulted A LOT OF VOTERS!
>>
>> Do Jews know that the real anti-Semite, Neo-Nazi party is the
>> Democrat???
>>
>> -Ramon
>>
>> NB: Jews are the most loyal Democratic voters (75%), only surpassed
>> by Blacks (96%).
>>
> American Jews relish the role of martyr. They can't wait to be
> punished by Obama and the Maxists. They will sing all the way to the
> showers.

And their song of choice is, "We Shall Overcome" - What amazes me it that
they are so passive and forgiving. You'd think that after suffering through
the Holocaust, they would be rabid, "Stomp on the tyrants of the world"
Republicans....:^)

Bill Graham

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BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 3:40 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> (3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How
>> do we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How
>> can we possibly get them back?'"
>>
>
> Why would Republicans want people that would vote based on skin color?
>
>
> You must want the KKK voters too, because they will also vote based on
> skin color like you Liberals want people to do.
>
>
> Their actual skin color is irrelevant, the important fact is that they
> will vote based on skin color. That's the basis of Liberalism.

No. The basis of liberalism is stupidity. Why complicate such a simple
concept?

Bill Graham

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Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
> The left hates IDEAS (which is fine!)
> The Right (PEOPLE).
>
> -Ramon

But you are always quoting people to justify your idealogy, (like the woman
above that said she disagreed with the AZ law that her husband voted for.)
So you too are guilty of putting people above your ideaology.

deadrat

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On 6/14/13 6:33 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 7:20 PM, deadrat wrote:
>> On 6/14/13 5:31 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2013 6:07 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/13 4:25 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/2013 4:31 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/14/13 12:46 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/14/2013 3:38 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>>>>>> "With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the
>>>>>>>> nation,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...."]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skin color is reduced by Liberalism to being a voting bloc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Boy is that racist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Er, Sparky? Latinos don't form a race. You might want to get that
>>>>>> straight about your future masters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> "Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc"
>>>>
>>>> That may be, but that bloc is not based on race.
>>>
>>> Then why is a crime against a Latino a racial hate crime if you call
>>> him/her a "Beaner"
>>
>> It's not a crime to call someone a "Beaner."
>
>
> That's pitiful, playing games.

Sorry, your writing is less than clear. Don't automatically blame the
receiver. Check the transmitter first

> when we both know that three guys of a
> different color whip one person of another race and they call the person
> getting their ass kicked a racial slur.... you and I know that that
> slur will be used to make it a race hate crime. Unless maybe it's a
> white male getting that ass whooping.

I think I see your problem. The specific one here, not the general one
of your abyssal ignorance. There isn't such a thing as a "race hate
crime." There are just hate crimes. The law lists the types of
prejudice that qualify. Race is one; ethnicity is another.
>
> You hide from "race" when it's you calling an ethnic group a racial name

Me? I don't call ethnic groups names.

> but when you get to cry that there was a hate crime

Me? I'm opposed to hate crime legislation.

> suddenly you want
> to make it all vague and put any racial slur from a KKK member into the
> hate crime box.

First of all, racial slurs from KKK members (or anybody) is protected
speech. Racial slurs uttered while committing a crime against a member
of the disparaged race is evidence of a hate crime.

Secondly, I'm opposed to the government inquiring into the motivations
of prejudice in defining crimes.

You must be thinking of someone else.

Bill Graham

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Most of them love affirmative action, so that should tell you something
right there..... (like maybe their brains are about the size of peanuts....)

Bill Graham

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Jun 14, 2013, 9:58:00 PM6/14/13
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The mere fact that she justifies whatever decision she makes based on her
own racial background is racist in itself. What the hell is wrong with
basing your decisions on logic?

deadrat

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On 6/14/13 6:42 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
> On 6/14/2013 7:36 PM, Bill Graham wrote:
>> Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> (3) MSNBC's O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do
>>> we undo this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can
>>> we possibly get them back?'"
>>>
>>> Steve Schmidt, Top Republican Strategist (*), agreeing: "If we [the
>>> GOP] had a deliberate strategy to antagonize every Latino voter in
>>> this country, it is not possible that we could have done a better
>>> job".
>>>
>>> "The Republican Party cannot be a national party if it doesn't compete
>>> in the Hispanic market - Look at those numbers: we have big, big
>>> problems."
>>>
>>> (*) Played by Woody Harrelson in the McCain campaign HBO movie.
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>
>> It isn't the, "Hispanic Market" that's the problem.
>
> No but the Fact Liberals divide people up like that and suggest they
> vote a certain way because their skin is within a specific range of
> color is telling about Liberalism.

You can't name any "Liberals" who "suggest" that people vote a certain
way because their skin is a certain color. It's a fact that 96% of
black voters and 71% of Hispanic voters voted for Obama. Presumably the
71% of Hispanics had skin that ran the spectrum from white to black.

> Its says little about the voting

Yet the percentages are what they are.

> but a lot about who the real racists are.

Keep telling black- and brown-skinned people that they vote only based
on the melanin in their skin. The love to hear things like that.


BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/14/2013 9:43 PM, deadrat wrote:
> On 6/14/13 6:33 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>> On 6/14/2013 7:20 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>> On 6/14/13 5:31 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>> On 6/14/2013 6:07 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/13 4:25 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/14/2013 4:31 PM, deadrat wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/14/13 12:46 PM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/14/2013 3:38 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the
>>>>>>>>> nation,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...."]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skin color is reduced by Liberalism to being a voting bloc?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Boy is that racist.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Er, Sparky? Latinos don't form a race. You might want to get that
>>>>>>> straight about your future masters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc"
>>>>>
>>>>> That may be, but that bloc is not based on race.
>>>>
>>>> Then why is a crime against a Latino a racial hate crime if you call
>>>> him/her a "Beaner"
>>>
>>> It's not a crime to call someone a "Beaner."
>>
>>
>> That's pitiful, playing games.
>
> Sorry, your writing is less than clear. Don't automatically blame the
> receiver. Check the transmitter first
>

I look at it as we just think in different dimensions.



If I explained everything I'd be writing a book..... you have to fill in
some of the blanks so you need to get up to speed. Think ahead a little
and anticipate where I'm headed.








BeamMeUpScotty

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Logic is NOT a Liberal forte` .



BeamMeUpScotty

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But NOT necessarily why you say they are what they are.


You latch onto race and they probably vote their wallet.


Bill Graham

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Depends on how you define, "better". In my book, nearly 50% of the people
whould have voted ofr both candidates. The fact that 96% of the black people
voted for Obama is racist on the face of it. As is the other statistics of,
75. 66, qnd 63 %. My point is still well made. It isn't the white people in
this country who are the racists, but rather the third-world people. Had 65
or more percent of the white people voted for McCain, we would have been the
laughing stock of the whole world. But you donlt see anything racist in
that, do you? BeamMeUpScotty's point that its you liberals who are the
racists is made!

Clave

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"Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> In my book, nearly 50% of the people whould have voted ofr both
> candidates.

That strikes me as a rather stupid assumption. On what do you base it?


> The fact that 96% of the black people voted for Obama is racist on the
> face of it...

So your contention is that blacks are too racist or stupid to to make
informed political decisions in their own interests.

Jim



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<Yoor...@Jurgis.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:27:34 -0700, "Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> You must want the KKK voters too, because they will also vote based on
>>> skin color like you Liberals want people to do.
>>>
>>>
>>> Their actual skin color is irrelevant, the important fact is that they
>>> will vote based on skin color. That's the basis of Liberalism.
>>
>>No. The basis of liberalism is stupidity.
>
> If that's the case---why is the ENTIRE history from the landing to the
> foundation of the nation resting on a PROGRESSIVE foundation and every
> incidence of opposition to almost all programs, policies have had a
> vicious opposition from CONSERVATIVES?

So let's see....according to you it were the progressives that wanted to
secure and protect our individual freedoms and liberties. Now the
progressives are those that wish to strip people of their individual
freedoms and liberties. Yet you try to assert they somehow share the same
ideals because you try to paste the same label on both.

Well.....securing and protecting liberty and freedom is NOT a progressive
policy. It is rather a strong conservative policy that dates back throughout
recorded history.

Simply because you want to claim they were progressives, doesn't make it so,
and progressives of today have nothing to do with those who founded this
country or their views no matter what labels you want to try to apply to
make you appear to be the same.


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Let the Record show that "Scout" on or about Fri, 14 Jun 2013 23:17:33
-0400 did write, type or otherwise cause to appear in
talk.politics.guns the following:
"hen one reads any strongly individual piece of writing, one has the
impression of seeing a face somewhere behind the page. It is not
necessarily the actual face of the writer. I feel this very strongly
with Swift, with Defoe, with Fielding, Stendhal, Thackeray, Flaubert,
though in several cases I do not know what these people looked like
and do not want to know. What one sees is the face that the writer
ought to have. Well, in the case of Dickens I see a face that is not
quite the face of Dickens's photographs, though it resembles it. It is
the face of a man of about forty, with a small beard and a high
colour. He is laughing, with a touch of anger in his laughter, but no
triumph, no malignity. It is the face of a man who is always fighting
against something, but who fights in the open and is not frightened,
the face of a man who is generously angry ­ in other words, of a
nineteenth-century liberal, a free intelligence, a type hated with
equal hatred by all the smelly little orthodoxies which are now
contending for our souls. "
George Orwell
"Charles Dickens" (1939), Inside the Whale and Other Essays (1940)

I'll repeat the salient part:

"... It is the face of a man who is always fighting against something,
but who fights in the open and is not frightened, the face of a man
who is generously angry ­ in other words, of a NINETEENTH-CENTURY
LIBERAL, a FREE INTELLIGENCE A TYPE HATED with equal hatred by all the
smelly little orthodoxies which are now contending for our souls. "

One of those "smelly little orthodoxies" is the Democrat party,
home of the race baiting "Progressives." (as they were known under
President Wilson), who became "Liberals" in the 30's, but changed back
again in the 1990's. Whatever they call themselves, they still
believe that it is only Government Employees who can make the right
choices for the populace. They miss the old glory days of having a
King.

--
pyotr filipivich
Most of the intelligentsia haven't studied history, so much
as they've absorbed the Correct Position on "History".

Scout

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<Yoor...@Jurgis.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 23:17:33 -0400, "Scout"
> <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>><Yoor...@Jurgis.net> wrote in message
>>news:sjlnr8lmevh6kub7r...@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:27:34 -0700, "Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> You must want the KKK voters too, because they will also vote based on
>>>>> skin color like you Liberals want people to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Their actual skin color is irrelevant, the important fact is that they
>>>>> will vote based on skin color. That's the basis of Liberalism.
>>>>
>>>>No. The basis of liberalism is stupidity.
>>>
>>> If that's the case---why is the ENTIRE history from the landing to the
>>> foundation of the nation resting on a PROGRESSIVE foundation and every
>>> incidence of opposition to almost all programs, policies have had a
>>> vicious opposition from CONSERVATIVES?
>>
>>So let's see....according to you it were the progressives that wanted to
>>secure and protect our individual freedoms and liberties.
>
>>* Now the
>>progressives are those that wish to strip people of their individual
>>freedoms and liberties. Yet you try to assert they somehow share the same
>>ideals because you try to paste the same label on both.
>
>
> Well, there ya go
>
> That sentence *---is called a fallacy claim
>
> No such evidence supports it.

Then quit making them by implying that the founding fathers are progressives
of the same stripe you claim to be.


Topaz

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No Way Out But Through the Jews
A Review of Paul Gottfried's The Conservative Movement
by Alex Linder

Executive summary: The Jews have taken over the American right, and
they have the money and media access to shut out any contenders.
Meaning: Unless you build a movement that explicitly forbids Jewish
participation and focuses on Jews as the political enemy, you are
destined to be coopted or crushed. Or at least rendered impotent, like
the Old Right, and left broke and fuming on the sidelines. Caveat: The
Internet isn't accounted for in Gottfried's calculus.

...the review

In his 1993 book The Conservative Movement, Jew Paul Gottfried
provides an excellent short history of post-WWII conservatism, and one
that provides a clear, if implicit, message for today's White
nationalist. That message is the title of this review: No way out but
through the Jews. If you plan to pursue the political goal of a
civilized White America, these Jews will be at your throat every step
of the way. So you might as well not kid yourself about that but set
your phaser on "kill" from the start.

Gottfried never comes right out and says it, but the upshot of his
history is that the right has been taken over by Jews. Centered around
the Podhoretz and Kristol families, this Jewish movement pushes an
anti-American ideology. Where George Washington and Thomas Jefferson
advocated no entangling alliances abroad and local rule at home, the
neocons promote a plus-sized managerial state at home, and global
democratic crusades abroad. Since their infiltration in the late
sixties, early seventies, says Gottfried, these Jewish "conservatives"
have garnered the lion's share of money and media access,
marginalizing the traditional right. And although he nowhere mentions
talk radio or the Internet, Gottfried sees virtually no options at the
disposal of those who would usurp the usurpers.

Who are the neoconservatives? Essentially, they are a small group of
East Coast Jewish intellectuals of regular private morality. They are
former reds or red-diaper babies who departed from the New Left when
it started advocating odd sex and communism and other policies they
felt were potentially anti-Semitic. As they emerged from this sixties
morass, they gravitated to the right, where they found allies in the
anti-communist cause; friends with foundation money that could be used
to construct a bulwark against their crazier New Left brethren. Over
the course of the seventies, the Jewish neoconservatives took over one
foundation after another, supplanting the Christian traditionalist
bias of American conservatism with their detailed policy studies and
position papers. These bore proof of their sociological and
statistical cast of mind, different from the Kirkian
religious-literary bias of traditionalists.

By the time of Reagan, they had achieved dominance. Any conservative
hoping to make a career of it, whether in politics or writing or
commentating, had to hew to their specific vision of the America they
wished to conserve if he wished to preserve his own office, air-time
or sheet space. Any vestigial strains of racial feeling or regional
sympathy were anathema to these racist philo-Semitic anti-racists who
are unstinting in their anathematizing of anyone who diverges from
their pluralist, democratic dogmas. Any American, that is. The
dogmatic democratic pluralism disappears when it comes to Israel,
where Semitic chauvinism is, quite rightly they think, the law. What
White racialists want for America is no different from what Jewish
neoconservatives want for Israel. But they will try to shout down
anyone who makes the equation, just ask Joe Sobran. Only Jews have a
right to an ethnostate; democratic pluralism is good enough for the
rest of us. This hypocritical double-standard springs directly from
the gut Jewish feeling that an America made up of many conflicting
groups, riven by cultural standards, divided by ethnicity, history and
behavior, is the America in which the Jew is safest, and can move
about most freely. A strong, sure White nation scares the Jew. So
whether it's America or Europe, he tries to undercut it with
anthropological lies about the unreality of race, falsified histories
("diversity has always been our greatest strength") support for open
immigration, suppression of free speech and the destruction of free
association-all in the name of "civil rights." Neoconservatives are
Jews, no need to look further than that. Jews, whether left or right,
ask only one question: Is it good for the Jews? They hide behind
universalist rhetoric, but their concern is for themselves. And you
can be absolutely sure of this: Their interests are not our
interests..

David Horowitz would be a prime example of an expert deployer of a
plausible, counterfeit theory and history of America to suck in
potential White racialists and get them four-square behind a nutty,
extremist, ahistorical view of politics that can only lead America
into South Africa's pit of horrors. The triumph of individual rights
in Black lands means the triumph of the jungle. It is extremist,
rationalist and counter-historical to elevate a political process over
the character of the people. How can ignorant, 75-IQ blacks produce
civilization protecting the individual rights these neoconservatives
claim to love? Can one-man, one-vote really produce that miracle? Of
course not, and these Jews know it. And they know that the Founders
knew it. So they lie. The truth, as they know and cover up, is that
the Founders understood that only civilized, self-controlled White men
were capable of civilization, and that to expect dissolute, lazy,
TV-drenched slobs mixed with mulattoes and Negroes and Mexicans to
vote in ordered liberty was to expect the impossible. But David
Horowitz, living in Los Angeles, can look out the window and tell you
it's possible. Never underestimate the power of Jewish duplicity in
furthering Jewish self-interest. That's a second corollary to
Gottfried's study.

We asked above whether or not these neoconservative Jews were really
conservative. Perhaps that question isn't important. One point
Gottfried does develop, writing in 1993, is just how little difference
there is in today's political discourse between left and right. As I
write, George W. Bush is battling Al Gore, so the point is hardly
stale. Effectively, the left and right may differ in degree, but
everybody supports a capitalist welfare state and global democracy.
Everybody is "inclusive." Everybody bows before the great God of
Diversity. Are the Jews conservative? In the deeper sense, no. They
are still radicals, intent on spreading their lies about human
fungibility, from which they aone are exempt as the "Chosen" people.
Left or right, they are eager to destroy our White civilization to
further their group interests.

On the second most important political issue of the day-leaving the
borders open to the third world-the Jews speak with one voice: no
patrols. Note this well: Never in American history has a majority of
Whites favored colored immigration. The Jews alone favored it, for
reasons outlined above. Now whose policy is followed today? -- that of
the Jewish minority, which doesn't think like you and I do. You
thought the majority was supposed to prevail in a democracy? Wrong.
Political control in a democracy, as Aristotle observed, is vested in
those who control television. This is part of what certain Americans
are getting at with the 'ZOG' formulation that all the
pseudo-sophisticated college-educated folk laugh at (as TV has taught
them to). The Jews almost to a man push open-borders immigration, and
they denounce anyone who differs as an evil racist/nativist/xenophobe.
All the Jewish lies dovetail intellectually, and all of them advance
Jewish interests. I recommend, I urge, I wish I could force everyone
who hasn't to read Kevin MacDonald's paper on the Jewish influence in
the hundred years of debate preceding the nation-killing 1965
immigration act that opened the floodgates to the third world. The
Jewish hatred of the White world is the story that doesn't make the
news, even as it remakes your neighborhood. I doubt the plush-paunched
Republicans watching TV politics as spectator sport will ever pick up
on it. You will run a long way before you meet an average American
with the slightest historical awareness-nor the interest in developing
one. But the arguments are lying there, exactly as I've presented
them, and perhaps in a crisis people will take a hard look at what
brought us to our current position. For all the disinformation out
there, it's still not too hard to detect the patterns once you have
the facts. . .

So we've seen that Jews claiming themselves "conservatives" but not
all that different from their leftist brethren have come in and
dominated the right. Where does this leave whatever is left of the
non-Jewish right? I would break this set into two subsets: those who
are openly racist (which Gottfried avoids) and those who make veiled
or open Semitically Incorrect arguments while attempting to maintain
their "respectability." The former have no political power, while the
latter are desperate to hang on to their columns and speaking
engagements.

Although there are a handful of Jews pushing standard White-racist
arguments, and who would receive even less notice than they do get if
they weren't Jewish, these same never take into account that Jews can
never simply be another ethnic group assimilated into a purified White
America. The nature and qualities and history of their group shows
just that-they are a group. And since they are a group that recognizes
itself as a group and fights against other groups on that basis-they
must be opposed as a group. This is not so much guilt by association
as guilt by genetics and behavior and history. As a group they have
strategized to destroy the civilized White America they felt
threatened by, and anything we do to them in return is more than
deserved. Treating them as individuals, just like we are, has failed.
The correct path is to treat them as the radical alien outsiders and
eliminate their influence. We need to take their flag off the
courthouse, so to speak.

Getting back to the lesson at the top of the page, Jews have so
strategized their evolution (see Kevin MacDonald's work) as to be
considerably more intelligent than their hosts, with an average IQ of
115, a standard-deviation above the White mean. This intelligence and
their proven historical character combine to ensure Jews will always
be the yeast, the irritants, the makers-uncomfortable, the
revolutionaries. Wherever they exist in White society they will be a
force for disruption. The fact that some can exist as peaceful ethnics
among the White majority does not negate this Big Truth (for if there
can be Big Lies, there can also be Big Truths). Because
class-arguments can be abused, and because injustice will be meted out
to individual non-Whites when we rebuild civilization, the Jews
enforcing their dogma of individualism will always have points to make
that resonate with our myopic right-wing individualists. But just as
surely as these Jews averted their eyes from the general horrors
ensuing in South Africa after their racial-and-political equality
dogmas were enacted, the pro-White right must be louder than ever in
showing that their ethnic Jewish self-interest can only end in the
extinction of the White race. Really. Those are the stakes.
The media neoconservatives can't afford to admit the evidence of the
failure of their dogma in South Africa, rape and murder capital of the
world; rather they redouble their insistence on individualism to evade
the Big Truth that colored demographics and political democracy doom
White minorities everywhere. And taking a global perspective-as we are
all supposed to do, nowadays-the White race is a small minority, and
growing smaller every day. Our White kinsmen are already being
butchered in their homes and driven off their farms in South Africa
and Zimbabwe. Literally tens of millions of Whites have become victims
of violent Black assault in America since the Jew-eased passage of
"Civil Rights" legislation. The Jews well know these facts, and that
is why they avoid reporting them. They hated South Africa when it was
ruled by civilized Whites. They don't give a damn what happens to
Whites once their beloved Negroes are carrying the whip. Foolish,
foolish White man-will you not wake up while there is time?

What we are discussing is a very simple: the Jews are a class fighting
to dominate other classes, just as Benjamin Stein saw in his report on
the TV Weltanschauung, The View from Sunset Boulevard. Jew Stein, like
Jew Michael Levin (Feminism and Freedom), will never name his people
as that class, pointing to "writers and producers," "feminists," and
"neoconservatives." (It is really truly amazing the way that Jews are
able to camouflage their interests, always presenting their specific
goal as a general good, and that their terms are tacitly accepted in
their opponents' rhetoric. It's like we all are under contract to
agree that the Jews aren't a group and don't have any specific
interests and certainly don't work to advance those interests and even
if they do, they aren't in conflict with ours. But notice that on the
flip side, the opposite conditions obtain: Jews always attack their
opponents by class (right-wing Christian extremists, racist haters,
Arabs), lingering lovingly on the specific interests of their
undifferentiated opponents; always forestalling counter-arguments as
"anti-Semitism" driven by the only motive Jews ever allow their
opponents-all together now-"hate." The Jews can only get away with
this clever I-criticize-you-and-you
criticize-that-bag-of-flour-over-there setup because they exert
extraordinary control over television and newspapers. And their backup
line of defense, of course, is to denounce anyone who notices the
strategies behind their tactics as an anti-Semitic conspiracymonger.
This is a second aspect of what the 'ZOG'-minded are pointing to.
Stein is writing about the class of TV writers and producers;

Gottfried is writing about neoconservatives; Levin is writing about
feminists. All of them mean Jews, none of them can afford to say it.
When you become a Jew, it's almost as though you have to sign a sheet
saying you will either avoid mentioning negative Jewish
characteristics or-pace Marx and Freud-reinterpret specific, offensive
Jewish behaviors or patterns as generically human: i.e., repression,
or characteristic of an exploited class. (An excellent book, The
Ordeal of Civility, by John Murray Cuddihy, covers this topic in
depth.) The one thing none of these rightist Jews wants is a civilized
White society where Jews are nonexistent. Or ghettoized. Or looked
down on socially. Or in which you are free to speak and write and talk
about Jews as specific people who act, look and think in generalizable
ways. Jews may be physically ugly duplicitous socialist troublemakers,
but they don't want you saying that. They will propagandize through
the schools and TV until you are practically unable to notice it
because the whole context in which you might make such an observation
has been destroyed. They will make hard to find the few books that
dare discuss it. (Just try finding Cuddihy's book.) History is nothing
but a propaganda tool to them. In living memory they were kept out of
the better hotels and clubs and colleges, and since treatment of the
Jews, to Jews, is the true measure of civilization, any time they were
legally or socially treated as other than the God-sent gift they
present themselves (that is, all history up until about fifty years
ago) must be falsified into Dark Ages (Jews out of power) preceding
today's Enlightened Age (Jews running the show). Let alone the
ghettoes of old Europe, these people are capable of portraying the
fifties in America as some sort of racist hellhole, saved only through
heroic Blacks led by saintly Jews in the name of civil rights or
federal tyranny, if you prefer your descriptions accurate. What is
clear to every Jew seems to be unclear to most White Americans,
especially those on the right who ought to know better:

this is a war of classes, a war for power and dominance between a
small but smart and well-positioned ethnic group and the vast majority
of civilized White people. The Jews instinctively recognize this
battle, feel it in their blood, and are fighting hard for their side.

Most on our side aren't even aware a war is going on.
Gottfried points to two symbolic episodes that show the transfer of
power from the traditional right to the neocons: 1) Rockford's firing
of John Neuhaus, and his subsequent denunciation of traditionalist
racism and anti-Semitism among the Old Right; and, 2) the neocons'
successful defeat of M.E. Bradford, a traditionalist historian, as
head of the National Endowment of Humanity. What was the traditional
right to do? Basically, it retreated, licked its wounds, and looked
about in search of allies and money and media outlets. What has
happened, and this is clearer now than when Gottfried completed the
book, is that the American political system under Clinton has gotten
so corrupt that even average people began to notice. This alone has
strengthened the traditional right's never-too-strong confidence, and
strengthened its new ally, the libertarians, too. And both sides have
benefited hugely from the Internet, which at once strengthens small
groups and somewhat threatens established media institutions. By 2000,
there were enough ganglia of pro-Whites on the Internet to get
mainstream Jewish groups scribbling "hate crimes" model statutes,
anti-gun legislation, and politically correct browser censorware at
top speed.

It might have been expected that the loss of power and funding would
have resulted in the radicalization of the traditional right, at least
to the point of open talk about taking the American right back from
the Jews. There was very little of such talk, none of it open-at least
among those with one eye on "respectability," that ever leftward
moving boundary observed by fools.

What we still see on the right in the year 2000 are leading non-Jewish
right-wing Whites couching what they know to be racial arguments in
regional or race-neutral terms. Sam Francis speaks of Middle American
Revolutionaries. He means Whites, but he's afraid to come out and say
it. Of course, he gets called racist just the same. And he got fired
from the neocon Washington Times just the same. But Jews, to him, are
just people with a different religion, and he can still find a way to
fit minorities into that Middle American revolution.

Then there are the various Southern separatist groups. All are
carefully non-racial. All get accused of being racist. All fail to
draw the correct conclusion. It is amusing in a sick and increasingly
irritating way. Is there nobody left who can think clearly and isn't
afraid to voice his conclusions publicly? No, the Southern Semitically
Correct separatists present as sorry a face as they always do. Always
trying for that elusive respectability, always failing to achieve it,
and always losing the few-and merely symbolic-battles they do engage
in. For people who brag incessantly "on" their heroic Confederate
ancestors, they show little courage and less intelligence.

I'll say it again, a little louder now, so Johnny Reb can hear me:
THERE IS NO WAY OUT BUT THROUGH THE JEWS. IT DOES YOU NO GOOD TO BE OR
PRETEND TO BE NON-RACIST. YOU ARE THREATENED AS A GROUP, BY A GROUP,
AND YOU'D BETTER GET THOSE GROUPS STRAIGHT IN YOUR HEAD TO HAVE ANY
HOPE OF PRESERVING THE LAND AND PEOPLE YOU LOVE.
A little more on the Southern-rights groups. The left always froths
over them, as though people too scared and powerless to say what they
mean openly are going to achieve anything. This frothing is more a
measure of media boredom and the fact that the left is so dominant it
has forgotten what real opposition feels like that it goes overboard.
The left so buys its own frothing demagoguery it can't even realize
these people have ceded the essential point before they even start
arguing. Pity the poor Southern separatist. He can't even keep the
flag in the air or the Blacks from pooping on the statue of his
great-grandaddy. Even with all that Confederate heroism running in his
blood, he's still selling his problem as Northerners, not Blacks. As
though America hasn't been homogenized by TV into one big mall or
airport lobby. As though the guy in Arkansas is worried about the
White man just over the Missouri line, more than the Black next door.
How pitiful and obvious he is, our man of gray, thinking the media
will buy that he's really not racist. He can't see that it doesn't
matter in the slightest if he isn't, and if he is, he's contemptible
for not arguing openly. Ditch the gray and go for black and white,
Southern Man.

How many times does the right have to learn that the media really is
controlled by Jews, by intimidation where not by ownership; that Jews
really are leftist; and that anyone preaching anything remotely
resembling White pride gets treated like a human showing emotion in
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (that is, squawked at and pointed out
to the cops by the aliens who are taking over the planet) - so that he
might as well oppose the Jew's anti-White hatred openly. You can't win
where the other guy defines the terms, sets the labels, interprets the
law. You must oppose him openly, directly, explicitly and give him no
quarter. Why are you always on the defensive? Could it be the same
reason you always lose? Here we come to a deep-lying problem with
conservatism. First of all, nobody's ever satisfactorily defined it. A
branch of that problem is that there is no philosophical basis for
incorporating political attack. A new conservatism must be envisioned
that incorporates not merely the preservation of custom and tradition,
but one that can accommodate formless spiritual or psychic drives that
are even more important than patterned behaviors: questing,
exploration, simple competitiveness. Even blood-lust. What could be
more conservative than blood-lust? But where do you find it among the
Republicans; over at the Jew-intimidated National Review? Among the
foundation-based low-tax remonstrators?

The funny thing is that once you say, Yes, I am a racist. Just like
George Washington. And you are a White-hating Jew-the poison is drawn.
They have set the terms of this political game we all play, and only
by refusing to play do we stand a chance of winning. It is utmost
foolishness, as anybody who has published conservative articles
anywhere in the world will tell you, to try to escape the racist tag.
You can't, and in any case it ain't a meaningful word, people-it's
just a way to smear and discredit you. Fight the smearers and
discrediters directly, refuse to play on their terms. Love and
fairness no more conquer hate than they conquer bullets. Prefixing
your conservative arguments with "I'm not a racist, but..." and
expecting to achieve your political goals is like one of those African
rebel guerillas smearing himself with magical pig grease thinking it
will stop bullets.

Apart from your opinion of the Nazis, consider their tactics. Did they
win-democratically-by adopting the tactics of the respectable American
right, or did they gain converts by their physical courage and their
willingness to confront the Jew-led communists? How much worse can the
Old Right do than it is doing right now? Not much. The mainstream
right-as I write, G.W. Bush and the Republican convention are in full
swing, every other speaker addressing the hall is a colored-has
decided to ape the liberals. In the words of the song, Freedom's just
another word for nothing left to lose. Well, what on earth do the Sam
Francises and Thomas Flemings and the Pat Buchanans have left to lose?
A column in an obscure magazine? A speech to a few dozen like-mindeds?
Is it possible they will turn to effective tactics out of sheer
boredom? Sam Francis (you'll serve as representative here), how could
you possibly do worse than you are doing now by openly criticizing
Jews instead of making pusillanimous attacks on East Coast elitists
and New World Order bureaucrats? How could you possibly fare any worse
by defending the Black-and-White truths of the Founders in
black-and-white terms?

Then you've got the libertarians, trying to get government off our
backs without any recourse to racial explanations or group interests
in explaining human behavior. Trying to understand the world one
person at a time. Some of these libertarians are products of Silicon
Valley, and to the extent they philosophize, they are Randian
individualists. They believe in free trade and free movement of
peoples, and make no distinctions between them. Libertarians seem to
instinctively turn away from any historical recognition of the
circumstances under which the freedoms they demand were actually
realized. Even their few (and in many ways impressive) intellectuals
who are interested in history tend to fall in line with the
politically safe Jewish lie about the non-racial aspect of our
founding, building their future utopias in that tired old,
misunderstood, misrepresented "all men are created equal."
Politically, libertarians are laughable, beyond their useful ability
to supply policy papers. Imagine a whole bunch of computer geeks and
economics professors marching on Washington under the fear-inspiring
banner of "Me!" Now there's an Army even our heroic neo-Confederates
could take! Libertarians maybe never will realize that, again I yell,
BLOOD AND RACE ARE WHAT MOVE PEOPLE, NOT THE RIGHT TO SMOKE DOOBIES
AND BUGGER YOUR BOYFRIEND. NOT EVEN ECONOMICS. Am I really the only
idiot to notice that when Whites ruled America, White people were
free? And that when Jews and Blacks rule America, they're slaves? But
most "right-wing" libertarians would rather support a minimum wage
hike than acknowledge this simple historical fact. They are too
rationalist in temperament, too much like our liberal dictators. Too
in love with their idea of
people-as-individuals-in-the-low-tax-multicultural-utopia-of-tomorrow
to pay attention to street-level political and historical reality.
Many of us want individual liberty, but it only obtains under certain
circumstances. There sure doesn't seem to be much of it around in
these days of "civil rights" for everybody except the people who
created the idea of 'em in the first place. If there's anything that
gives the lie to what passes for "conservatism" these days, it's right
here: Genuine civil rights-association, property, speech,
self-defense-were much better protected in the days before the prating
Jews and their colored parasite minions rose to the fore. Yet
recognition of the race-based nature of practical, effective, genuine
freedom will get you kicked out of the Libertarian party faster than
you can say Don't Do Drugs!

Libertarians take one aspect of looking at the world and inflate it
into the entire cosmos. This is their built-in bias. When you combine
it with their standard right-wing fear of crossing the Semitical
Correctness line, you have a second hurdle between them and racialism.
The conservative Christians share these political flaws. Their concern
is not for the race or the group, but for the salvation of the
individual soul. Of course, since in years past the Good Book has been
used to support virtually every position under the sun including
communism, there is a bit more hope for their conversion on the racial
issue, should the powers that be change. TV Christians have proven
able adopters of the Semitically Correct line. Israel is good and
racialism is bad. That's the message they're getting from New York,
and that's the message Pat Robertson is putting out to rural North
Carolina. The libertarians have their hated parties, but these are
always anonymous "bureaucrats" or "statists," or "socialists"-never
anyone you can actually get your hands on. Same with the Christian
conservatives. They are the equivalent of the libertarians in that the
former are excellent at certain types of economic reasoning (Why We
Should Privatize Trash Collection) while the Christians retain solid
moral and character-development advice. They are both good on the
small-picture stuff. But neither group can take a realistic look at
the general; they are both concerned about saving Heaven or Liberty
one soul at a time. They both simply refuse to make necessary
generalizations.

Christians, again like Libertarians, invariably throw their
opprobrium on carefully generic targets: Atheists, secular humanists
(gays are the one exception, and even here they say "Hate the sinner,
not the sin," as though that doesn't conflict with their doctrine of
free will). A Jew or a black or a Mexican is a vivid image,
immediately recognizable. The abstractions countered by the Christians
and the libertarians are creatures that nobody would recognize on a
public street. They are fighting abstactly against abstractions,
instead of coherently for something concrete.

Never do the Christians go after the Jews who are killing their
doctrines; never do they speak the name of their real enemy despite
the spittingly obscene provocations to which he has subjected them.
This is why, with tens of millions in numerical advantage, the
Christians aren't even masters of the civilization they created. In
fact, much of the leadership class of the Christians has become so
enthralled with Jewish ideas that now the church will bend any which
way the Jews require, whether it's removing the Commandments from the
classroom the way the Jew judge and Jew-created and -run ACLU tell
them to, or rewriting history to avoid the fact that Jews condemned
their own Savior to die (as in the revised [read: Semitically Correct]
Passion Plays)! They may think they are only turning the other cheek,
but self-abasing worms is what these new Christians truly are. This
used to be a religion whose adherents killed others in glorious
crusade for their Truth, and died at the stake before renouncing their
Faith. Today, the biggest name in Christendom hobnobs with nutty
Buddhists and faxes apologies to Jerusalem. For all its residual focus
on humility and self-discipline (welcome antacids to the Jewish public
school lies about self-esteem, which is really self-absorption and
self-worship; in a word, selfishness), the Christian church in America
is today furthering the racial evils that Jewish ideologues,
especially those misappropriating the name conservative, have
subjected us to. Pat Robertson has no problem with those influxing
Mexican chicken-pluckers heaping his collection plates, and has
publicly advocated miscegenation as the long-term solution to our
racial ills. If he preached miscegenation as a sin, as his hardier
forebears did, he would be burned at the stake. Pardon me, I mean, he
wouldn't be on TV. The fact that any evangelicals are on TV at all is
conditioned on their support for Israel and their multiracialism. This
is what makes their leaders despicable-not the hypocrisy and
White-trashiness the left and right would have us sneer at them for.
Recently Bush's first national campaign ad aired. It shows him at a
school surrounded by little black and brown kids, all well on their
way to becoming the computer programmers and doctors and lawyers and
Republicans of tomorrow. It seems the GOP has made up its mind which
way it's going. It's everyvato's party; down with the homies, too.
Make any show that persuades in order to capture power. The old
Clinton strategy. After all, reality is that waves of wets wash over
the border every night, and at some point they and their kids will
vote. The bulk White population is fading, and the core demographic
supporting conservative principles simply won't be there to swing a
presidential election in another ten years.

Even Jew-genuflecting National Review has noticed this Californication
of America, as has been termed in a different context. But sucking up
to the powers that be, angling for a spot, doing what he's told, is
something the middle-manager mind that makes up the Republican ranks
well understands. Ya got to roll with the punches, ya know?

White man, you have to decide. If you choose not to decide, you still
have made a choice, to make a phrase. You can pull a Christian
Scientist, and pretend that that brown spot on our national chest will
just go away if we think positive thoughts long enough, refuse to
acknowledge it. But it won't. Those coloreds swamping the border,
those grasping welfare niggers, those lying Jewish press manipulators
won't disappear of their own accord. Twenty years from now, George
Bush-Brown will be president, and all the things you fear today-
your kids blood-libeled at school; yourself discriminated against on
the job; your taxes higher than ever; your wife subject to insults,
rape or assault; your big cities gang-dominated; your small cities
dominated by nigger "music" and clothing pollution; your guns
outlawed; your political opinions criminalized; your TV louder and
more intrusive and hateful-will be worse. As Paul Gottfried shows,
but doesn't tell, the same Jews that have made the present possible
are working hard to make this future inevitable. But there is still a
window of opportunity. But only if you recognize that we-you and I
and the others reading this-are part of the White race, share
interests, and must band together. And that, politically, culturally
and socially, to achieve a civilized future, there is
NO WAY OUT BUT THROUGH THE JEWS!

http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/v1/index5.htm

http://www.ihr.org/ http://nationalvanguard.org/ http://heretical.com/

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com

BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/14/2013 10:51 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:27:34 -0700, "Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> You must want the KKK voters too, because they will also vote based on
>>> skin color like you Liberals want people to do.
>>>
>>>
>>> Their actual skin color is irrelevant, the important fact is that they
>>> will vote based on skin color. That's the basis of Liberalism.
>>
>> No. The basis of liberalism is stupidity.
>
> If that's the case---why is the ENTIRE history from the landing to the
> foundation of the nation resting on a PROGRESSIVE foundation and every
> incidence of opposition to almost all programs, policies have had a
> vicious opposition from CONSERVATIVES?
>

You need to get some history lessons....


Progressives didn't show up in the political arena till around 1900.


Unless you count burning them at the stake as a political movement.

Tell us about how Progressives were bleeding the sick to drain the bad
blood out of them. How the Progressives were slave owners that joined
the revolution only if they could keep their slaves.




Ramon F. Herrera

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They have aligned themselves quite nicely: While White Supremacists,
Neo-Nazis, KKK, hard core racists and similar human garbage vote
Republican all minorities vote Democrat (duh!!!!)

BTW: According to the mainstream definition, in order to be racism, it
must contain HATRED, which is a characteristic held by the Right in an
almost monopolistic fashion.

That is the reason the Democratic Party is as united as ever, while
the Republican Party is going through the worst crisis in its history,
and its very existence is at stake.

-Ramon

deadrat

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Jun 15, 2013, 11:57:37 AM6/15/13
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When do you think bloodletting was a popular medical remedy?


> How the Progressives were slave owners that joined

When do you think slaveowning was legal?

BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 15, 2013, 12:13:29 PM6/15/13
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On 6/15/2013 11:48 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>
> They have aligned themselves quite nicely: While White Supremacists,
> Neo-Nazis, KKK, hard core racists and similar human garbage vote
> Republican all minorities vote Democrat (duh!!!!)


Black panthers are "similar human garbage" they vote DEmocrat. Muslim
Terrorists are a minority, they vote Democrat.

Thanks for telling the truth about who Democrats are.... racists and
terrorists. But then, we already knew that. Your confession didn't
change the reality that has always existed.

The KKK wouldn't vote racial for Republicans because Republicans aren't
advertising for any racial BLOC to vote based on their skin color only
Democrats are doing that. So the isolated case of the KKK that you use
which is a fallacy, has nothing to do with their own skin skin color.
And while you accept and embrace your racial bloc voters the Republicans
are discouraging the KKK and any hate groups from getting into any seats
of power in the Republican party. The TEA PARTY openly and in public
chastized racists when they showed up at TEA PARTY events.

But you democrats love the likes of Rev. Wright and The Muslim
Brotherhood and Louis Farrakhan's racial and religious HATE.



*Rumination*
#5 - You can't have Social Justice and Equal Justice at the same time,
they are 'mutually exclusive'.

deadrat

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Jun 15, 2013, 12:43:56 PM6/15/13
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On 6/15/13 11:13 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:

Remember: it's always about the projection.

> On 6/15/2013 11:48 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>>
>> They have aligned themselves quite nicely: While White Supremacists,
>> Neo-Nazis, KKK, hard core racists and similar human garbage vote
>> Republican all minorities vote Democrat (duh!!!!)
>
>
> Black panthers are "similar human garbage" they vote DEmocrat.

Bwahahahahahaha! The Black Panthers? How many Black Panthers do you
suppose there are? How do you know how these elderly vote?

> Muslim Terrorists are a minority, they vote Democrat.

You think that terrorists vote? How do you know this? Do they answer
exit polls?

> Thanks for telling the truth about who Democrats are.... racists and
> terrorists. But then, we already knew that. Your confession didn't
> change the reality that has always existed.
>
> The KKK wouldn't vote racial for Republicans because Republicans aren't
> advertising for any racial BLOC to vote based on their skin color only
> Democrats are doing that.

OK, Sparky, how do you explain the fact that 88% of Republicans are
white? Coincidence?

> So the isolated case of the KKK that you use
> which is a fallacy, has nothing to do with their own skin skin color.
> And while you accept and embrace your racial bloc voters the Republicans
> are discouraging the KKK

The Republicans don't officially invite the KKK into their ranks, but
what party do you suppose David Duke came from? But the relentless
Republican campaign against minority voters makes it clear which is the
better choice for KKK members. But really, how many KKK members are there?

> and any hate groups from getting into any seats
> of power in the Republican party. The TEA PARTY openly and in public
> chastized racists when they showed up at TEA PARTY events.

Yeah, they just carried signs portraying Obama as Hitler and questioning
his citizenship.

> But you democrats love the likes of Rev. Wright

Perhaps you ought to learn a little about the Rev. During the 2008
campaign, _The Chicago Tribune_ published a piece by a white man who had
attended Trinity Lutheran and fallen in love with a black woman and
proposed to her. She went to Wright and said she would marry the man
except she felt she was betraying her racial history by marrying a white
man. Wright told her she was wrong, and that love was more important
than race. Didn't see that on YouTube, didja?

> and The Muslim Brotherhood

The Muslim Brotherhood is Egyptian.

> and Louis Farrakhan's racial and religious HATE

The Nation of Islam is a separatist organization, although on occasion
they have run their own candidates for local offices. In 2008, Louis
Farrakhan thought Obama would be some kind of world savior. He doesn't
think much of Obama anymore.

<snip/>

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 15, 11:13 am, BeamMeUpScotty
<ThenDestroyEveryth...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:

> Black panthers are "similar human garbage" they vote DEmocrat.

The New Black Panthers and Louis Farrakhan have been officially
designated as Hate groups. Being this a free country, they may vote
for whatever party they desire but they are rejected by the Democratic
Party ("try across the aisle", we tell them). Those groups have
NOTHING to do with the Democrats.

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Farrakhan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Black_Panther_Party

Southern Poverty Law Center:
http://goo.gl/qEaM7
http://goo.gl/wYLDm

White Separatists and Black Separatists hold hands together, for their
objective is the same.

Meanwhile:

The Tea Party has undeniable links with White Supremacism and similar
human garbage:

- There is a Tea Party Caucus in Congress
- The Tea Party gave an official reply to the SOTU address.

-Ramon

--------------------------

I posted the following reply to a Republican CNN contributor:

"Dr. Bennett:

"As we speak, a white supremacist/separatist group (Western
Civilization Youth) is being welcomed at the CPAC Conference.

http://www.westernyouth.org

"Do tell: what are the odds that the Democratic party will accept such
racist group in their conferences???

Update: The most popular Republican politico on the land, Chris
Christie, was banned from CPAC, the same conference which welcomes
with open arms the likes of NumbersUSA, CIS, FAIR, Western
Civilization Youth and similar human garbage.

K Wills

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Jun 15, 2013, 5:41:10 PM6/15/13
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 08:48:12 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

>
>They have aligned themselves quite nicely: While White Supremacists,
>Neo-Nazis, KKK, hard core racists and similar human garbage vote
>Republican all minorities vote Democrat (duh!!!!)
>

That's not true.

>BTW: According to the mainstream definition, in order to be racism, it
>must contain HATRED, which is a characteristic held by the Right in an
>almost monopolistic fashion.

Interesting, but I'm not following how this applies your
erroneous claim above.

>
>That is the reason the Democratic Party is as united as ever, while
>the Republican Party is going through the worst crisis in its history,
>and its very existence is at stake.

Seems both parties are doing fine. Could you offer some specific
examples of your claim?

--
"I think Kent's more of a groundhog than a mole."
-- Chuck Bryant

Bill Graham

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Jun 15, 2013, 9:51:03 PM6/15/13
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No. My assumption is that in every presidentiol election the two main
candidates are normally nearly equally split... That is, there are nearly as
many Republicans as there are Democrats, so the winner usually only wins by
a nose. The very idea that 95% of one demographic group would vote for one
candidate is preposterous. So, obvioulsly over 45% of the black people in
this country voted for Obama for one simple reason. He was half black. Now,
had over 45% of the white voters voted for John McCain simply because he was
White, we would have been laughed at by the entire world, and called the
most racist country on earth.... So, how come nobody is laughing at the
black people? Don't you think there is a double standard here?

deadrat

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Jun 15, 2013, 10:17:06 PM6/15/13
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Please, please keep telling black people how racist they are, and how
they are unable to discern their own best interests so they vote solely
on race.

In 2008, evangelical Christians voted 88% for McCain.

In 2012, Utah voted 73% for Rmoney. In the Republican primary that year
he got 93% of the vote.

Bill Graham

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Progressives are just a term they started to use when "Liberals" started to
go out of favor. And what it meant 30 yeqrs ago isn;lt the same thing as
what it means now. Neither is any other political term. They all have to be
evaluated in the terms of what they mean right now. This is why its
ridiculous to say that Nazi's were far rightists, for example. They followed
their leader into hell, and the far right today does no such thing.

Clave

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Jun 15, 2013, 11:28:22 PM6/15/13
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"Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Clave wrote:

<...>

>> So your contention is that blacks are too racist or stupid to to make
>> informed political decisions in their own interests.
>
> No. My assumption is that in every presidentiol election the two main
> candidates are normally nearly equally split... That is, there are nearly
> as many Republicans as there are Democrats, so the winner usually only
> wins by a nose. The very idea that 95% of one demographic group would vote
> for one candidate is preposterous....

I told you I find that as-yet-unsupported assumption to be rather stupid.
Again, do you have anything other than your own ass to support it?

As was already pointed out to you, do you think the fact that 88% of
evangelical Christians voted for McCain is preposterous? Or that the
population of Utah broke 73% for Rmoney?

Or is your statistical outrage confined to dark-skinned demographics?

Just as a general question, can you point to anything the GOP has done to
benefit minorities in general in the last 50 years? Do you think it's gone
unnoticed by them that the GOP has done everything in their power during the
last several election cycles to make sure that as few of them vote as
possible?

Perhaps they as a group are simply smarter than you.

Jim



Bill Graham

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Jun 16, 2013, 12:12:29 AM6/16/13
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The Evangelical Christians are also badly prejudiced, as are the Utah
Mormons. but neither are quite as prejudiced as are this nations voting
blacks. 95% is 95%, and it is much larger than your EC's 88% or Utah's 73%.
Now, what were you saying about what the GOP has done for minorities? - Lets
put it this way, your liberal tendency to institute give away programs for
minorities has taught them that they are inferior and need the help of the
taxpayers to make their way through life. The Conservatives know that this
is not the way for these people to achieve equality. Anyone who thinks
government give-away programs will help minorities should just take a
careful look at the American Indian.

Ramon F. Herrera

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Jun 16, 2013, 1:19:45 AM6/16/13
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On Jun 15, 11:12 pm, "Bill Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote:

> The Evangelical Christians are also badly prejudiced,
> as are the Utah Mormons. but neither are quite as prejudiced
> as are this nations voting blacks.

You've got it exactly backwards, Mr. Graham, and have demonstrated
your utter inability of placing yourself in other person's situation.

WHY, OH WHY WOULD I VOTE FOR A PARTY THAT HATES ME?????

That consideration is a primal one, comes from the instinct of
survival and self-preservation for the majority of minorities and thus
it TRUMPS any other consideration.

We suppose that you -always the good Christian- would offer the other
cheek (either ones north or south of your waist)???

It is ironic and refreshing to learn that a top Republican politico
otherwise perceived as extremist has the ability that you lack:

“Republicans have been losing both the respect and votes of a group of
people who already identify with many of our beliefs in family, faith
and conservative values. Hispanics should be a natural and sizable
part of the Republican base,” Rand Paul said. “But they have steadily
drifted away from the GOP in each election. I think this says more
about Republicans than it does about Hispanics.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/03/19/rand-paul-on-immigration-reform/

-Ramon

--------------------

deadrat

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Jun 16, 2013, 1:24:06 AM6/16/13
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Please, please keep telling minority voters that they believe themselves
to be inferior. Take it from me, they really appreciate it.

> Anyone who thinks government give-away programs will help
> minorities should just take a careful look at the American Indian.

The US government program for American Indians have been almost entirely
take-away, not give-away.

deadrat

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Jun 16, 2013, 1:27:49 AM6/16/13
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On 6/16/13 12:19 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Jun 15, 11:12 pm, "Bill Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > The Evangelical Christians are also badly prejudiced,
> > as are the Utah Mormons. but neither are quite as prejudiced
> > as are this nations voting blacks.
>
> You've got it exactly backwards, Mr. Graham, and have demonstrated
> your utter inability of placing yourself in other person's situation.
>
> WHY, OH WHY WOULD I VOTE FOR A PARTY THAT HATES ME?????
>
Or condescends to me.

Check out Rand Paul's recent excursion to Howard University where he
asked a student audience if they understood that the founders of the
NAACP were Republicans.

Trust me. Black people just love being lectured on black history by
clueless white people. It's right up there with rap music for them.


Clave

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"Bill Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> blacks....

I notice you like to dance around all the relevant questions.

Can you point to anything the GOP has done to benefit minorities in general
in the last 50 years?

Apparently not.

Do you think it's gone unnoticed by them that the GOP has done everything in
their power during the last several election cycles to make sure that as few
of them vote as possible?

Apparently you don't want to talk about that either.

I wouldn't either if I were you.

Jim



Clave

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"deadrat" <a...@b.com> wrote in message
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5RD9BhcCo



Message has been deleted

Scout

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"Clave" <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote in message
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Excuse me, are you suggesting that we should specifically target who we
should aid simply because of the color of their skin?

I suggest you consider the message you're putting across because it sure
doesn't make you seem very reasonable.


Clave

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"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:kpjl64$fp5$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>
> "Clave" <ChrisC...@TheMonastery.com> wrote in message
> news:kpji9v$5ma$1...@dont-email.me...

<...>

>> Can you point to anything the GOP has done to benefit minorities in
>> general in the last 50 years?
>
> Excuse me, are you suggesting that we should specifically target who we
> should aid simply because of the color of their skin?

Let me look...nope...I didn't say anything like that.

Is reading always this difficult for you?

Jim



Topaz

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The former White nations and Japan are the first world. The Black
nations and India are the third world. In the middle, or the second
world are the Arabs and China. It is just as racialists would predict.
It is because the White race is on average much more intelligent than
the Black race. The people in Japan are much lighter in color than the
people in India.

All IQ tests have proven that Whites are on average much more
intelligent than Blacks. White people invented just about everything
important. Most leftists admit that Whites on average score higher on
the tests. They have their excuses for it, but all of their excuses
are demolished in "My Awakening" by David Duke.

Ramon F. Herrera

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On Jun 16, 1:20 am, "Scout" <me4g...@verizon.removemem.net> wrote:

> Excuse me, are you suggesting that we should
> specifically target who we should aid simply because
> of the color of their skin?

Not exactly.

-Signed: Carlos Slim Helú
Richest Man in the World
Latino, Brown, of Arabic Descent

http://goo.gl/YItQA

BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/16/2013 10:57 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
> On Jun 16, 1:20 am, "Scout" <me4g...@verizon.removemem.net> wrote:
>
> > Excuse me, are you suggesting that we should
> > specifically target who we should aid simply because
> > of the color of their skin?
>
> Not exactly.


Liberals target their voters on that criteria.


In fact they're counting on that being a major factor.



I expect they already factor that into their foreign aid decisions.
--



*Rumination*
#17 - Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know where the nuts
are? -Gump that-

Clave

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"BeamMeUpScotty" <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
message news:oanvt.311069$6q1.1...@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
> On 6/16/2013 10:57 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>> On Jun 16, 1:20 am, "Scout" <me4g...@verizon.removemem.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Excuse me, are you suggesting that we should
>> > specifically target who we should aid simply because
>> > of the color of their skin?
>>
>> Not exactly.
>
>
> Liberals target their voters on that criteria...

It might look like that to the selfish and stupid -- something to do with
"equal opportunity" as opposed to "rich white guys".

Jim



BeamMeUpScotty

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On 6/16/2013 1:27 AM, deadrat wrote:
> On 6/16/13 12:19 AM, Ramon F. Herrera wrote:
>> On Jun 15, 11:12 pm, "Bill Graham" <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > The Evangelical Christians are also badly prejudiced,
>> > as are the Utah Mormons. but neither are quite as prejudiced
>> > as are this nations voting blacks.
>>
>> You've got it exactly backwards, Mr. Graham, and have demonstrated
>> your utter inability of placing yourself in other person's situation.
>>
>> WHY, OH WHY WOULD I VOTE FOR A PARTY THAT HATES ME?????

I'm sure I told you, it's because the other one will get you killed.

deadrat

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BeamMeUpScotty

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Jun 16, 2013, 2:37:12 PM6/16/13
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> Please, please keep telling minority voters that they believe themselves
> to be inferior.

If a parent or teacher is telling them this, it's child abuse but the
government and Liberals tell us this every time they ask the kids to
fill out a form that asks them their race and offers them affirmative
action.


Funny that the Liberals think the problem is *WHO* tells them they are
inferior NOT that *SOMEONE* is telling them that they are inferior.



Government can tell people they are inferior as long as Government does
it with a smile and a bribe.





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