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Wotan

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Mar 31, 2002, 8:55:32 AM3/31/02
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The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
atheist who lives in sin with his partner, by whom he has
two children.

This appointment alone demonstrates the sneering contempt and
vicious hatred in which the Jews who have total control of the BBC
hold the English people and the Christian faith.

It comes as no surprise, therefore, that they have used Easter
to sneer at Christ and the resurrection, and to muddy the focus
of the Christian faith by suggesting that there was a Buddhist or
Hindu "Christ" - and a great deal more evil anti-Christian propaganda
besides.

The previous head of religious broadcasting at the BBC resigned
because he said that the Christian faith was being sidelined by the
(Jews who control) BBC.

Dr. Colin Nicholl, writing in the Mail on Sunday, raises the
question as to whether the BBC's Easter broadcasts were
planned "by the old devil himself".

Of course they were ! His old servants now control the BBC -
and all of the rest of the British media.

They have also been criticised for their insensitive and pushy
handling of interviews following the death of The Queen Mother.

No surprise there either. What else would anybody expect when
our national public service broadcaster is in the hands of vulgar
aliens who have no idea how to behave, or any concept of
decency.

The day must inevitably arrive when Jews are not allowed to hold
any positions in broadcasting, where they have shown themselves
not merely devoid of talent or creative ability, which they replace
with depravity, treachery and vulgarity - but utterly and totally
disinclined to do anything but exploit it for their own subversive
and treacherous ends.

And there is no reason at all why we should have ceded control
of our vital lines of public communication to a hostile and
mischevious ethnic minority.

Simon

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Mar 31, 2002, 11:24:37 AM3/31/02
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"Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote in message news:3ca7...@212.67.96.135...

> The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
> atheist who lives in sin with his partner, by whom he has
> two children.]

Who cares


>
> This appointment alone demonstrates the sneering contempt and
> vicious hatred in which the Jews who have total control of the BBC
> hold the English people and the Christian faith.
>

Why we are still a Christian country

> It comes as no surprise, therefore, that they have used Easter
> to sneer at Christ and the resurrection, and to muddy the focus
> of the Christian faith by suggesting that there was a Buddhist or
> Hindu "Christ" - and a great deal more evil anti-Christian propaganda
> besides.

Strange that not everyone is a christian


>
> The previous head of religious broadcasting at the BBC resigned
> because he said that the Christian faith was being sidelined by the
> (Jews who control) BBC.

Not seen many muslim broadcasts on the BBC either but there's plenty of
christian rubbish

snip

> And there is no reason at all why we should have ceded control
> of our vital lines of public communication to a hostile and
> mischevious ethnic minority.

Hostile!!!!!


Nice name btw very christian

Simon


Ninure Saunders

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Mar 31, 2002, 11:46:51 AM3/31/02
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In article <3ca7...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote:

<snip anti-semitic xlap-trap>

We're supposed to believe you give .02 cents about Easter, or Christ?

You obviously are familar with the prurposes and meaning of either the
teachings of Christ, or the meaning of Easter so please take this kind of
trash else where.

1Pe 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his
tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile

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Tarver Engineering

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Mar 31, 2002, 11:53:54 AM3/31/02
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"Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <3ca7...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote:
>
> <snip anti-semitic xlap-trap>
>
> We're supposed to believe you give .02 cents about Easter, or Christ?

Easter is a celbration of Istar, the queen of heaven. Another name for the
whore of Babylon.

> You obviously are familar with the prurposes and meaning of either the
> teachings of Christ, or the meaning of Easter so please take this kind of
> trash else where.

These are two very different competing religions. Eventually the godess
will have taken over most of the Christian Church.

> 1Pe 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain
his
> tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile

It would be evil to say nothing.

John


Michael W. Lancaster

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Mar 31, 2002, 12:00:57 PM3/31/02
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> "Wotan" wrote

> The head of "religious" broadcasting
> at the BBC is a Jewish atheist

*****
How the ef can an atheist be Jewish?!? Anyway,
he's neither: he's agnostic.

> who lives in sin with his partner, by
> whom he has two children.

*****
Wake up and smell the coffee, as the Yanks would
say. A third of all children are illegitimate and
over half of marriages end up in divorce.
Naturally, as 'darkies' form only 5 % of the
population, that means that a helluva lot of your
'indigenous, white' ones are living in sin and
producing bastards.

White power, white power, white power! He he
he... Some power...

MWL


jeremy...@hotmail.com

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Mar 31, 2002, 12:18:07 PM3/31/02
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 14:55:32 +0100, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net>
wrote:

>The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
>atheist who lives in sin with his partner, by whom he has
>two children.
>

<snip>
>
>
>
Personally I'd be happy if the BBC and everyone else stopped all
religious broadcasts. The less religion the better IMHO.


--
Rgds Jeremy

"I disapprove of what you say,
but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Voltaire 1694-1778

rand mair fheal

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Mar 31, 2002, 12:22:10 PM3/31/02
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In article <3ca7...@news.sierratel.com>, "Tarver Engineering"
<jta...@sierratel.com> wrote:

> "Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:RainbowChristiannoh...@1cust228.tnt26.chi15.da.uu.net.
> ..
> > In article <3ca7...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote:
> >
> > <snip anti-semitic xlap-trap>
> >
> > We're supposed to believe you give .02 cents about Easter, or Christ?
>
> Easter is a celbration of Istar, the queen of heaven. Another name for the
> whore of Babylon.

actually
youre wrong
and this is one those silly folk etymolgies that propagates endlessly
through the echoing corridors of the world wide web

easter is from the indoeuropean stem *aus-
with cognates east aurora and eo- (dawn)
and the root meant to shine and specialized to shining morning light dawn

astarte is from an independent afroasiatic root *?tr
which refers to the moerning and evening star (the planet venus)

if there was any cross over between the ie steppe speakers
and the asia minor aa speakers it would be with *?tr and ie *ster
or star

the resemblance of easter and istar is just once those chance things
that happen because the human vocal tract is capable of only som many
distinct phones

Reginald Perrin

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Mar 31, 2002, 12:25:53 PM3/31/02
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 14:55:32 +0100, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net>
wrote:

<snipped>

I'm so sorry to everyone but Bob managed to escape from one of our
secure wards again.

Dr. Reggie

Reginald Perrin

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Mar 31, 2002, 12:28:00 PM3/31/02
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 14:55:32 +0100, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net>
wrote:

>The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish


>atheist who lives in sin with his partner, by whom he has
>two children.

It's just occured to me that your initials, B.S. mean something (Bob
Sims).

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Mar 31, 2002, 1:13:16 PM3/31/02
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:00:57 +0100, "Michael W. Lancaster"
<lanc...@deadspam.com> wrote:

>> "Wotan" wrote
>> The head of "religious" broadcasting
>> at the BBC is a Jewish atheist
>
>*****
>How the ef can an atheist be Jewish?!? Anyway,
>he's neither: he's agnostic.

It's a racial classification, which in many - but not all - cases
coincides with a religious classification.

Tarver Engineering

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Mar 31, 2002, 7:37:09 PM3/31/02
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"rand mair fheal" <mair_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mair_fheal-31...@c25.ppp.tsoft.com...

> In article <3ca7...@news.sierratel.com>, "Tarver Engineering"
> <jta...@sierratel.com> wrote:
>
> > "Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
news:RainbowChristiannoh...@1cust228.tnt26.chi15.da.uu.net.
> > ..
> > > In article <3ca7...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net>
wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip anti-semitic xlap-trap>
> > >
> > > We're supposed to believe you give .02 cents about Easter, or Christ?
> >
> > Easter is a celbration of Istar, the queen of heaven. Another name for
the
> > whore of Babylon.
>
> actually
> youre wrong

Actually, I am exactly correct. Istar is Easter in english.

> and this is one those silly folk etymolgies that propagates endlessly
> through the echoing corridors of the world wide web

In this case you should get to a web search for Diane, Istar, Tamaz and
Artemus.

You also might delight in a little poem written in response to the
deification of Mary called "now we have our own Tama. Tama being the
godess' resurected son.

Easter is actually a competing religion with Chrisianity, much like the gift
Giving at Christmas is a tradition of Sun worshipers.

> easter is from the indoeuropean stem *aus-
> with cognates east aurora and eo- (dawn)
> and the root meant to shine and specialized to shining morning light dawn

Easter is a celebration of the godess dating back to Babylonian times. The
main product of the godess church was legalized prostitution. Sex with the
Temple prostitute was a blessing to your entire new year. (Spring on)

> astarte is from an independent afroasiatic root *?tr
> which refers to the moerning and evening star (the planet venus)
>
> if there was any cross over between the ie steppe speakers
> and the asia minor aa speakers it would be with *?tr and ie *ster
> or star
>
> the resemblance of easter and istar is just once those chance things
> that happen because the human vocal tract is capable of only som many
> distinct phones

The merging of Christianity with Roman peganism is where Easter traditions
of colored eggs and the Christmas tradition of giving gifts come from. What
is more interesting is that God hates do gooders, while still holding out
hope to the Whore's followers.

John

John


rand mair fheal

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Mar 31, 2002, 10:14:24 PM3/31/02
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In article <3ca7...@news.sierratel.com>, "Tarver Engineering"
<jta...@sierratel.com> wrote:

> "rand mair fheal" <mair_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:mair_fheal-31...@c25.ppp.tsoft.com...
> > In article <3ca7...@news.sierratel.com>, "Tarver Engineering"
> > <jta...@sierratel.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >
> news:RainbowChristiannoh...@1cust228.tnt26.chi15.da.uu.net.
> > > ..
> > > > In article <3ca7...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip anti-semitic xlap-trap>
> > > >
> > > > We're supposed to believe you give .02 cents about Easter, or Christ?
> > >
> > > Easter is a celbration of Istar, the queen of heaven. Another name for
> the
> > > whore of Babylon.
> >
> > actually
> > youre wrong
>
> Actually, I am exactly correct. Istar is Easter in english.

so much for offering free education
next time ill charge you
so youll listen

jeremy...@hotmail.com

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Apr 1, 2002, 4:01:39 AM4/1/02
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Just because you don't like what he's saying doesn't mean he's wrong.
Pity your education didn't teach you that much.

rand mair fheal

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Apr 1, 2002, 4:27:37 AM4/1/02
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> >> Actually, I am exactly correct. Istar is Easter in english.
> >
> >so much for offering free education
> >next time ill charge you
> >so youll listen
>
> Just because you don't like what he's saying doesn't mean he's wrong.
> Pity your education didn't teach you that much.

everybody likes science until it comes up with a different answer

jeremy...@hotmail.com

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Apr 1, 2002, 5:37:11 AM4/1/02
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Another totally stupid, trite attempt to be devastatingly funny I
suppose. If so it failed.

David Atherton

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Apr 1, 2002, 9:33:36 AM4/1/02
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I can't believe sensible people are responding.
Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.


Alex

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"The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" <rene...@anglican.org> wrote in message
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In which case, why mention he's a Jew?


Tarver Engineering

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"rand mair fheal" <mair_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You don't want it to be your goddess. :)

John


Tarver Engineering

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"rand mair fheal" <mair_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You don't like what you learned about your whore do you?

No rainbow Christian in you.

John


Ninure Saunders

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In article <3ca86af4$1...@194.70.94.92>, "David Atherton" <no....@me.please>
wrote:

-I can't believe sensible people are responding.
-Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.

It is because "sensible" people did not respond to "nut", that the facists
and Nazis were able to devestate so much of Europe.


As someone once said. "The only thing needed for evil to prosper is for
"good people" to do nothing".


"The Church confesses that she has witnessed the lawless application of
brutal force, the physical and spiritual suffering of countless innocent
people, oppression, hatred and murder, and that she has not raised her
voice on behalf of the victims and has not found ways to hasten to their
aid. She is guilty of the deaths of the weakest and most defenseless
brothers of Jesus Christ."
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer ( Ethics )


"In Germany they came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up." - Martin Niemoeller

Paul Hyett

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Apr 1, 2002, 6:35:17 AM4/1/02
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
view. To keep the thread going, I replied -

>The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
>atheist

Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!

>who lives in sin with his partner, by whom he has
>two children.
>
>This appointment alone demonstrates the sneering contempt and
>vicious hatred in which the Jews who have total control of the BBC
>hold the English people and the Christian faith.

Really? How?


>
>The previous head of religious broadcasting at the BBC resigned
>because he said that the Christian faith was being sidelined by the
>(Jews who control) BBC.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are those your words, or his? What was his name, anyway?


>
>They have also been criticised for their insensitive and pushy
>handling of interviews following the death of The Queen Mother.

Didn't watch any after the initial announcement.


>
>The day must inevitably arrive when Jews are not allowed to hold
>any positions in broadcasting, where they have shown themselves
>not merely devoid of talent or creative ability, which they replace
>with depravity, treachery and vulgarity - but utterly and totally
>disinclined to do anything but exploit it for their own subversive
>and treacherous ends.

What next - barring them from marrying non-Jews? Free rail trips to
'holiday camps'?


>
>And there is no reason at all why we should have ceded control
>of our vital lines of public communication to a hostile and
>mischevious ethnic minority.

Oh dear.

I can appreciate your views on many areas, even if I strongly disagree
with them, but this is just a wild anti-Semitic rant. :(
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham, England

Tarver Engineering

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"Paul Hyett" <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
> view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>
> >The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
> >atheist
>
> Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!

People are Jewish by birth.

John


Tarver Engineering

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Applied Dawrinism is an ugly thing.

John


Chris Morton

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In article <a8a1hn$q9l41$1...@ID-106519.news.dfncis.de>, "Alex" says...

What good's a scapegoat if you don't name it?


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rapists.

Wotan

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Paul Hyett <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:UMMv1KA1...@activist.demon.co.uk...
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
> view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>
> >The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
> >atheist
>
> Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!

Jews are an ethnic group - their religion (for want of a better word)
is entirely incidental.

No it's not.

It is a reworking of an article in the Daily Mail - and of a dozen other
articles from other newspapers.

The subversive and sneering actions of the media Jews is utterly
blatant and utterly unacceptable.

They seem to think they are so clever and we are so thick that we
cannot see thier blatant contempt and open subversion.

It is a mistake they have made thoughout history.

Maybe you caught the Observor Jew sneering at the Royal Family
and Queen Mother on Channel 5 news tonight ?

They have had quite enough rope - time to slam down and slam
down hard.

Wotan

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David Atherton <no....@me.please> wrote in message
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> I can't believe sensible people are responding.
> Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.
>
A fairly standard reponse from those who have no answers.

Wotan

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Apr 1, 2002, 3:03:25 PM4/1/02
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> In article <3ca86af4$1...@194.70.94.92>, "David Atherton" <no....@me.please>
> wrote:
>
> -I can't believe sensible people are responding.
> -Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.
>
> It is because "sensible" people did not respond to "nut", that the facists
> and Nazis were able to devestate so much of Europe.
>
>
> As someone once said. "The only thing needed for evil to prosper is for
> "good people" to do nothing".
>
>
> "The Church confesses that she has witnessed the lawless application of
> brutal force, the physical and spiritual suffering of countless innocent
> people, oppression, hatred and murder, and that she has not raised her
> voice on behalf of the victims and has not found ways to hasten to their
> aid. She is guilty of the deaths of the weakest and most defenseless
> brothers of Jesus Christ."
> - Dietrich Bonhoeffer ( Ethics )
>
>
Quite so !

Have a glance in the general direction of Palestine and the awful life
of terror and oppression the Palestinians have been forced into by
the rapacious and murderous Jews.

And this Easter Bethlehem is surrounded by Jewish tanks.

Or glance into the secret life of your own community nearer to home.

Youngsters drawn by the obscene anti-Christian and Jewish controlled
media into childlessness by chalamdia, AIDS and drugs - with
massive divorce rates and more screwed up children to provide
more victims for the drug pushers and pornographers.

Where do you think this moral decay came from ?

What do you think has the greatest influence on children ?

Television and "pop" music - both under the total control of the
Jews who have used it as a weapon to undermine Christian values
and replace it with an ethic of "you can do anything you like - and
it is your RIGHT to do so".

"..Give them anything and everything they want - and they will
destroy themselves. And then we will take over..."

And they have.

Now we must start the battle to take it back.

And the starting point is to remove the cause.

Chris Morton

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Apr 1, 2002, 4:56:49 PM4/1/02
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In article <3ca8...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" says...

>Television and "pop" music - both under the total control of the
>Jews who have used it as a weapon to undermine Christian values
>and replace it with an ethic of "you can do anything you like - and
>it is your RIGHT to do so".

Your mother drank a lot when she was pregnant, huh?

Christopher Morton

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Apr 1, 2002, 5:33:47 PM4/1/02
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A fairly standard response from a nut.

What is a Nazi?

A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.

A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.

A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so
he wants to murder his betters.

A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants
to murder those who tell it.

A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to
murder the past, to wipe out the knowledge
of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National Socialism.

Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of
educated, informed adults. Freedom of
choice terrifies him... which is why he
chooses minor children as sexual partners.
He can't interact with competent adults in
a consensually sexual way. He needs to be
able to impose himself on a helpless victim,
be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.

These are the things that a Nazi is, and
there's nothing polite or honest about it.
--

"sure an a nigger is going to use denigrate." - Glen Yeadon

"Who gives an FF what anyone says about the jooz." - Judy Diarya

"Jews mean nothing to me." - Judy Diarya

"Everyone but you knows the jews were behind 9-11." - Judy Diarya

Michael W. Lancaster

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Apr 1, 2002, 6:29:30 PM4/1/02
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> "Wotan" wrote

>
> Have a glance in the general direction
> of Palestine

*****
No can do. Such a thing doesn't exist anywhere.

> and the awful life
> of terror and oppression the
> Palestinians have been forced into by
> the rapacious and murderous Jews.

*****
They brought it upon themselves.

MWL


--
http://www.revoketheprize.org/


Simon

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"Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote in message news:3ca8...@212.67.96.135...

>
> Ninure Saunders <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
news:RainbowChristiannoh...@1cust124.tnt27.chi15.da.uu.net.
> ..
> > In article <3ca86af4$1...@194.70.94.92>, "David Atherton"
<no....@me.please>
> > wrote:
> >
> > -I can't believe sensible people are responding.
> > -Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.
> >
> > It is because "sensible" people did not respond to "nut", that the
facists
> > and Nazis were able to devestate so much of Europe.
> >
> >
> > As someone once said. "The only thing needed for evil to prosper is for
> > "good people" to do nothing".
> >
> >
> > "The Church confesses that she has witnessed the lawless application of
> > brutal force, the physical and spiritual suffering of countless innocent
> > people, oppression, hatred and murder, and that she has not raised her
> > voice on behalf of the victims and has not found ways to hasten to their
> > aid. She is guilty of the deaths of the weakest and most defenseless
> > brothers of Jesus Christ."
> > - Dietrich Bonhoeffer ( Ethics )
> >
> >
> Quite so !
>
> Have a glance in the general direction of Palestine and the awful life
> of terror and oppression the Palestinians have been forced into by
> the rapacious and murderous Jews.

Yep cant get way from those jewish suicide bombers


>
> And this Easter Bethlehem is surrounded by Jewish tanks.

Good


>
> Or glance into the secret life of your own community nearer to home.
>
> Youngsters drawn by the obscene anti-Christian and Jewish controlled
> media into childlessness by chalamdia, AIDS and drugs - with
> massive divorce rates and more screwed up children to provide
> more victims for the drug pushers and pornographers.

Far more are caused by control freaks like yourself


>
> Where do you think this moral decay came from ?

The desire of people like you to control other peoples lives and beliefs


>
> What do you think has the greatest influence on children ?
>
> Television and "pop" music - both under the total control of the
> Jews who have used it as a weapon to undermine Christian values
> and replace it with an ethic of "you can do anything you like - and
> it is your RIGHT to do so".

If they cause no harm why shouldnt people do what they like.


>
> "..Give them anything and everything they want - and they will
> destroy themselves. And then we will take over..."

No deny people the beliefs and you destroy lives


>
> And they have.
>
> Now we must start the battle to take it back.
>
> And the starting point is to remove the cause.

The chrisitians tried that it was called the inquisition

Simon


Steve Glynn

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"Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote in message news:3ca7...@212.67.96.135...

> The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
> atheist who lives in sin with his partner, by whom he has

> two children.
>
> This appointment alone demonstrates the sneering contempt and
> vicious hatred in which the Jews who have total control of the BBC
> hold the English people and the Christian faith.
>
> It comes as no surprise, therefore, that they have used Easter
> to sneer at Christ and the resurrection, and to muddy the focus
> of the Christian faith by suggesting that there was a Buddhist or
> Hindu "Christ" - and a great deal more evil anti-Christian propaganda
> besides.
>

What on earth are you on about? If you refer to the series of Radio 4
talks (all of about 15 minutes once a week) on Jewish/Muslim/Hindu ...
perceptions of Christ, there was nothing sneering about them at all. I
thought they were very respectful and very illuminating about how other
people see my faith.

Now, assuming we can agree that promoting any of the the Seven Deadly sins
is evil anti-Christian propaganda, I think we'll probably be able to collect
the full set by watching telly for an evening or reading a couple of
tabloids.....


> The previous head of religious broadcasting at the BBC resigned
> because he said that the Christian faith was being sidelined by the
> (Jews who control) BBC.
>

Did he, indeed? Funny his remarks weren't more widely reported, but I
suppose that's down the the Jews who control everything from the media to
the weather.

> Dr. Colin Nicholl, writing in the Mail on Sunday, raises the
> question as to whether the BBC's Easter broadcasts were
> planned "by the old devil himself".
>

I'm sure he did. Probably someone writing in Socialst Worker recently
suggested that something or other is all the fault of capitalism and that
what we really need is a Workers' Revolution to fix the problem.

What of it?

Steve
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"Steve Glynn" <steve...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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wotan wrote:

> > The previous head of religious broadcasting at the BBC resigned
> > because he said that the Christian faith was being sidelined by the
> > (Jews who control) BBC.

who inserted the words "(Jews who control)"?

i think it was the anti-semite wotan.


Wotan

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Alex <no....@mail.com> wrote in message
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Because they control the BBC, have their own agenda and are
engaged in open subversion of the Christian faith.

They are desperate to redefine Jewishness as being a religious
belief. It is not. It is a distinct ethnic sub-species.

Christopher Morton

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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 00:38:53 +0100, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote:

>
>Alex <no....@mail.com> wrote in message
>news:a8a1hn$q9l41$1...@ID-106519.news.dfncis.de...
>> "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" <rene...@anglican.org> wrote in message
>> news:3ca75175...@news.cis.dfn.de...
>> > On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:00:57 +0100, "Michael W. Lancaster"
>> > <lanc...@deadspam.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> "Wotan" wrote
>> > >> The head of "religious" broadcasting
>> > >> at the BBC is a Jewish atheist
>> > >
>> > >*****
>> > >How the ef can an atheist be Jewish?!? Anyway,
>> > >he's neither: he's agnostic.
>> >
>> > It's a racial classification, which in many - but not all - cases
>> > coincides with a religious classification.
>>
>> In which case, why mention he's a Jew?
>>
>Because they control the BBC, have their own agenda and are
>engaged in open subversion of the Christian faith.

Hmmm, let's consider this situation.

Jews allegedly control the banks, the media and the government.

Nazis control... little boys in public restrooms.

Yep, I know on whose side *I* want to be.

Pass the matzoh....

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Or, indeed, why mention the person is male?

Dr. Sunil

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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Steve Glynn wrote:

>
> "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote in message news:3ca7...@212.67.96.135...
> > The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
> > atheist who lives in sin with his partner, by whom he has
> > two children.
> >
> > This appointment alone demonstrates the sneering contempt and
> > vicious hatred in which the Jews who have total control of the BBC
> > hold the English people and the Christian faith.
> >
> > It comes as no surprise, therefore, that they have used Easter
> > to sneer at Christ and the resurrection, and to muddy the focus
> > of the Christian faith by suggesting that there was a Buddhist or
> > Hindu "Christ" - and a great deal more evil anti-Christian propaganda
> > besides.
> >
>
> What on earth are you on about? If you refer to the series of Radio 4
> talks (all of about 15 minutes once a week) on Jewish/Muslim/Hindu ...
> perceptions of Christ, there was nothing sneering about them at all. I
> thought they were very respectful and very illuminating about how other
> people see my faith.

Reincarnation of Elisha?

'Needless to say, the idea that Jesus was the reincarnated soul of
the prophet Elisha is viewed as heresy by the Roman Catholic Church.
Reincarnation, that is, the transmigration of souls, was formally
declared anathema at the Fifth General Council convened by Justinian
in 553 AD.[37] The Council's decision in 553 AD was only a formality,
however. The rejection of reincarnation had long been a matter of
Church policy, made inevitable by the Roman Church's early repudiation
of the immortality (preexistence) of the soul. As we have already
discussed, the Church taught from the time of Tatian and Jerome that
the soul is created from dust along with the body at conception.[38]
So it should not be surprising that the third century debunker Bishop
Hippolytus would condemn Jewish-Christian sects like the Elchasaites
as heretical for teaching that Jesus had reappeared on earth a number
of times.[39] Like the Ebionites, the Elchasaites were probably
descended from the survivors of the original Nazarene community. But
even more interesting is the fact that the official teaching of the
Roman Church flatly contradicts scripture--as I have just shown.

'Finally, let us examine the words of the crucified Jesus, uttered
shortly before drawing his final breath:

"Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"

'The expression is usually translated: "My God, my God, why hast thou
forsaken me?", which is the first line in Psalm Twenty-Two. Yet, it is
interesting that in recounting the story Matthew mentions that

"When some of those who stood there heard this, they said 'The man is
calling on Elijah.' And one of them quickly ran to get a sponge, which
he dipped in vinegar and, putting it on a reed, gave it to him to
drink. 'Wait!' said the rest of them, 'and see if Elijah will come to
save him'."[Matthew 27: 47-50]

'The name Elijah contains within it the word for God (El). The name
Elijah (Eli-jah) means "Whose God is Yahweh." Hence the basis for the
usual translation that Jesus in extremis called on the Father
(Yahweh). Yet the witnesses to the crucifixion thought differently.
According to Matthew, they believed that Jesus was calling out not to
God, but to Elijah. The question arises: why would Jesus do so? There
can be only one explanation. The words make sense only if the man on
the cross was the reincarnated soul of Elisha. For nothing could be
more natural than for a dying man, in this case Jesus, to cry out the
name of his guru.'

http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/MGaffney1.php?p=6

> Now, assuming we can agree that promoting any of the the Seven Deadly sins
> is evil anti-Christian propaganda, I think we'll probably be able to collect
> the full set by watching telly for an evening or reading a couple of
> tabloids.....
>

snip]

Ninure Saunders

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In article <3ca8...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote:

-Ninure Saunders <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
-news:RainbowChristiannoh...@1cust124.tnt27.chi15.da.uu.net.
-..
-> In article <3ca86af4$1...@194.70.94.92>, "David Atherton" <no....@me.please>
-> wrote:
->
-> -I can't believe sensible people are responding.
-> -Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.
->
-> It is because "sensible" people did not respond to "nut", that the facists
-> and Nazis were able to devestate so much of Europe.
->
->
-> As someone once said. "The only thing needed for evil to prosper is for
-> "good people" to do nothing".
->
->
-> "The Church confesses that she has witnessed the lawless application of
-> brutal force, the physical and spiritual suffering of countless innocent
-> people, oppression, hatred and murder, and that she has not raised her
-> voice on behalf of the victims and has not found ways to hasten to their
-> aid. She is guilty of the deaths of the weakest and most defenseless
-> brothers of Jesus Christ."
-> - Dietrich Bonhoeffer ( Ethics )
->
->
-Quite so !
-
-Have a glance in the general direction of Palestine and the awful life
-of terror and oppression the Palestinians have been forced into by
-the rapacious and murderous Jews.
-
-And this Easter Bethlehem is surrounded by Jewish tanks.

Bethlemhem is surrounded by tanks from the Israeli goverment.
-
-Or glance into the secret life of your own community nearer to home.

What "secret community"? (If it is a secret, how can I glance at it? If
it a secret, how do YOU know about it?)
-
-Youngsters drawn by the obscene anti-Christian and Jewish controlled
-media into childlessness by chalamdia, AIDS and drugs - with
-massive divorce rates and more screwed up children to provide
-more victims for the drug pushers and pornographers.

Oh!!! That secret community....you mean the capitialist system which put
profit ahead of people....a system mostly control by males of European
ancestory.....

--Where do you think this moral decay came from ?


"The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children
no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is
evident that the end of the world is fast approaching."
- Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC

-
-What do you think has the greatest influence on children ?

Their parents.
-
-Television and "pop" music - both under the total control of the
-Jews who have used it as a weapon to undermine Christian values
-and replace it with an ethic of "you can do anything you like - and
-it is your RIGHT to do so".

Enem if that were true which of course it is NOT, it is a solid fact that
most parents are too "Blessed lazy" and/or busy to raise their children.

No one, unless it is the parents, drags children in front of TV sets, to
the movies, or to the places where "objectionable material is to be
found".....

-
-"..Give them anything and everything they want - and they will
-destroy themselves. And then we will take over..."

Again:

"The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children
no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is
evident that the end of the world is fast approaching."
- Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC

-
-And they have.
-
-Now we must start the battle to take it back.
-
-And the starting point is to remove the cause.

Yes, isolate and eliminate stupidy, bigotry, and hate.

Wotan

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Christopher Morton <chr...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> >Because they control the BBC, have their own agenda and are
> >engaged in open subversion of the Christian faith.
>
> Hmmm, let's consider this situation.
>
> Jews allegedly control the banks, the media and the government.
>
> Nazis control... little boys in public restrooms.
>

I'm (fairly) sure you must know what you are talking about -
but I doubt anybody else does.

I don't know any Nazis so I cannot comment on their
predilection for small boys or otherwise. The very few I know
from what you would call the "far right" (in reality, the traditional
middle ground) are family people who have decided they have
just had enough or seeing our society dragged into the gutter.

What I do know is that Blair's Jewish government attempted
to legalise the buggery of 16 year old boys.

The predilections of Mandelsohn are well known - as is the
listing of Jack Straw's brother on the paedophile list.

And the proliferation of pornography and debased filth by
the Jewish controlled media is there for anybody who cares
to switch on a television to see.

The filthy and disgusting works of the likes of Tracey Emin,
displayed in a Jewish controlled art gallery and backed as
official art by Blair's government of depravity, are also there
for anybody with the stomach to go and see it.

All of which is testimony to the sneering contempt and hatred
in which they hold the British people and nation, the Christian
faith and all values of decency. To say nothing of hygene.

Wotan

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The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe <rene...@anglican.org> wrote in message
news:3ca9494e...@news.cis.dfn.de...

> >> >How the ef can an atheist be Jewish?!? Anyway,
> >> >he's neither: he's agnostic.
> >>
> >> It's a racial classification, which in many - but not all - cases
> >> coincides with a religious classification.
> >
> >In which case, why mention he's a Jew?
> >
>
> Or, indeed, why mention the person is male?

Or, indeed, why mention he is a person ? Is this not wicked
discrimination against armadillos, yaks, badgers and cabbages ?

There are some occasions when the descent of the loony left
into Babel is almost funny.

But a man disappearing up his own rectum should be the object
of pity (and urgent surgery) rather than mockery.

Wotan

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Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> In article <3ca8...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" says...
>
> >Television and "pop" music - both under the total control of the
> >Jews who have used it as a weapon to undermine Christian values
> >and replace it with an ethic of "you can do anything you like - and
> >it is your RIGHT to do so".
>
> Your mother drank a lot when she was pregnant, huh?

My mother was tee total and never smoked.

I gather golden apples featured in her diet.

Wotan

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Simon <Si...@unikey.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> > >
> > > "The Church confesses that she has witnessed the lawless application
of
> > > brutal force, the physical and spiritual suffering of countless
innocent
> > > people, oppression, hatred and murder, and that she has not raised her
> > > voice on behalf of the victims and has not found ways to hasten to
their
> > > aid. She is guilty of the deaths of the weakest and most defenseless
> > > brothers of Jesus Christ."
> > > - Dietrich Bonhoeffer ( Ethics )
> > >
> > >
> > Quite so !
> >
> > Have a glance in the general direction of Palestine and the awful life
> > of terror and oppression the Palestinians have been forced into by
> > the rapacious and murderous Jews.
>
> Yep cant get way from those jewish suicide bombers

I was referring to the vast US provided army of tanks, helicopters and
sniper rifles. Of which the Palestinians have none

> >
> > And this Easter Bethlehem is surrounded by Jewish tanks.
>
> Good

I think it is pretty clear where you stand.

> >
> > Or glance into the secret life of your own community nearer to home.
> >
> > Youngsters drawn by the obscene anti-Christian and Jewish controlled
> > media into childlessness by chalamdia, AIDS and drugs - with
> > massive divorce rates and more screwed up children to provide
> > more victims for the drug pushers and pornographers.
>
> Far more are caused by control freaks like yourself

There is no evidence for any such outrageous and unsubstantiated
claim in the history of Britain prior to 1970. There is, on the other
hand, vast amounts of hard evidence to demonstrate exactly the
reverse.

> >
> > Where do you think this moral decay came from ?
>
> The desire of people like you to control other peoples lives and beliefs

It is Blair and his Jewish dictatorship in government and the media
who are attempting to control every aspect of peoples lives and
beliefs - even down to what they are allowed to think and say -
and whether or not they can sell bananas by the pound or not.

Your flat denial of reality and utter hypocrisy is entirely in
character.

> >
> > What do you think has the greatest influence on children ?
> >
> > Television and "pop" music - both under the total control of the
> > Jews who have used it as a weapon to undermine Christian values
> > and replace it with an ethic of "you can do anything you like - and
> > it is your RIGHT to do so".
>
> If they cause no harm why shouldnt people do what they like.

People are not doing what they like. They are doing what the
Jewish controlled media tells them is the right thing to do. Whilst,
in the case of the Jewish Marxist BBC deliberately suppressing the
Christian guidelines which protect them from the false prophets
and self serving racketeers who exploit human weakness and
vulnerability.

> >
> > "..Give them anything and everything they want - and they will
> > destroy themselves. And then we will take over..."
>
> No deny people the beliefs and you destroy lives

It is the Jewish controlled media which is suppressing and denying
them any belief except the belief in greed and self destructive self
indulgence.

> >
> > And they have.
> >
> > Now we must start the battle to take it back.
> >
> > And the starting point is to remove the cause.
>
> The chrisitians tried that it was called the inquisition
>

They also threw the Jews out of Britain a few hundred years ago
as an act of self defence and self preservation.


Wotan

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boazlebub <boaz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No. That was the uncensored realist, Wotan.

Wotan

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Christopher Morton <chr...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 20:50:44 +0100, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >David Atherton <no....@me.please> wrote in message
> >news:3ca86af4$1...@194.70.94.92...
> >> I can't believe sensible people are responding.
> >> Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.
> >>
> >A fairly standard reponse from those who have no answers.
>
> A fairly standard response from a nut.
>
> What is a Nazi?
>
> A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.
>
> A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
> equals because he knows he can't measure up.

The Nazis were our bitter enemies in the last war.

An enemy which we defeated and as a result of which
victory every Jew now alive on the earth owes his life.

Pity more of them don't remember that when they are pouring
their vicious hatred and contempt on us !

Whilst the Nazis were a regime which was utterly counter
to everything for which the free and independent minded
British stood, there was no evidence of cowardice amongst
them of which I am aware.

Nor is there any evidence of cowardice amongst Palestinian
youths who strap explosives to their bodies and blow
themselves to pieces to destroy the bullying enemies of
their deperate people.

Unlike the cowardly and contemptible Jews, who slaughter
unarmed Palestinians from the safety of US made and paid
for tanks and helicopters.

Wotan

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Steve Glynn <steve...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Now, assuming we can agree that promoting any of the the Seven Deadly sins
> is evil anti-Christian propaganda, I think we'll probably be able to
collect
> the full set by watching telly for an evening or reading a couple of
> tabloids.....
>
>
> > The previous head of religious broadcasting at the BBC resigned
> > because he said that the Christian faith was being sidelined by the
> > (Jews who control the) BBC.

> >
>
> Did he, indeed? Funny his remarks weren't more widely reported

They were.

In most of the newspapers at the time - and repeated again in the Daily Mail
in the article to which I have referred.

Perhaps you do not read newspapers very thoroughly ?

Important items are often censored by minimal reporting and need
watching for carefully. Even more items are not reported at all.

That is a state of affairs which will continue to grow until Blair is
removed from power and the media taken back into British
control.

Wotan

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Michael W. Lancaster <lanc...@deadspam.com> wrote in message
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> > "Wotan" wrote
> >
> > Have a glance in the general direction
> > of Palestine
>
> *****
> No can do. Such a thing doesn't exist anywhere.
>

Which arrogant excuse for genocide and land grabbing
explains why the Palestinians are killing as many Jews as
they can manage.

And faced with such breath taking insolence, wouldn't
anybody ?

Alex

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Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> is reported to have stated:

> Alex <no....@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:a8a1hn$q9l41$1...@ID-106519.news.dfncis.de...
>> "The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe" <rene...@anglican.org> wrote in message
>> news:3ca75175...@news.cis.dfn.de...
>>> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:00:57 +0100, "Michael W. Lancaster"
>>> <lanc...@deadspam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> "Wotan" wrote
>>>>> The head of "religious" broadcasting
>>>>> at the BBC is a Jewish atheist
>>>>
>>>> *****
>>>> How the ef can an atheist be Jewish?!? Anyway,
>>>> he's neither: he's agnostic.
>>>
>>> It's a racial classification, which in many - but not all - cases
>>> coincides with a religious classification.
>>
>> In which case, why mention he's a Jew?
>>
> Because they control the BBC, have their own agenda and are
> engaged in open subversion of the Christian faith.

What about Jewish Christians?

> They are desperate to redefine Jewishness as being a religious
> belief. It is not. It is a distinct ethnic sub-species.

It is both. As a religion, it predates Christianity. As a race, it's also pretty damn
old.


Alex

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"Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote in message news:3ca8...@212.67.96.135...

>
> Paul Hyett <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:UMMv1KA1...@activist.demon.co.uk...
> > On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
> > view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
> >
> > >The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
> > >atheist
> >
> > Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!
>
> Jews are an ethnic group - their religion (for want of a better word)
> is entirely incidental.

Why mention his ethnic group in a post about his religion then?


Alex

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Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> is reported to have stated:

> Ninure Saunders <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


> news:RainbowChristiannoh...@1cust124.tnt27.chi15.da.uu.net.
> ..
>> In article <3ca86af4$1...@194.70.94.92>, "David Atherton" <no....@me.please>
>> wrote:
>>
>> -I can't believe sensible people are responding.
>> -Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.
>>
>> It is because "sensible" people did not respond to "nut", that the facists
>> and Nazis were able to devestate so much of Europe.
>>
>>
>> As someone once said. "The only thing needed for evil to prosper is for
>> "good people" to do nothing".
>>
>>
>> "The Church confesses that she has witnessed the lawless application of
>> brutal force, the physical and spiritual suffering of countless innocent
>> people, oppression, hatred and murder, and that she has not raised her
>> voice on behalf of the victims and has not found ways to hasten to their
>> aid. She is guilty of the deaths of the weakest and most defenseless
>> brothers of Jesus Christ."
>> - Dietrich Bonhoeffer ( Ethics )
>>
>>
> Quite so !
>
> Have a glance in the general direction of Palestine and the awful life
> of terror and oppression the Palestinians have been forced into by
> the rapacious and murderous Jews.

Supported by Christians in the US and elsewhere.

> And this Easter Bethlehem is surrounded by Jewish tanks.

Supported by Christians in the US and elsewhere.


The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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For an excellent exposé of the jewish 'contribution' to our society,
please refer to the following:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=
ISO-8859-1&selm=TQFi8.54959%24gQ.13586075%40news02.optonline.net

Anybody who doubts the veracity of this need look no further than our
very own Sacha Baron-Cohen, and his 'creation' Ali-G. Baron-Cohen was
by all accounts something of a swot at Haberdashers' Aske's. His
Ali-G incarnation, which was allegedly intended to be a spoof, has
become something of a cult figure. Merchants of Cool, indeed.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 2, 2002, 11:48:02 AM4/2/02
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On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:50:01 +0100, 66...@hack.powernet[dot]co[dot]uk
(Shimon Gardner) wrote:

>In article <3ca9...@212.67.96.135>,


>"Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote:
>
>> The Nazis were our bitter enemies in the last war.
>

>That's right. My father fought in a world war to defeat nazis like you.
>
>

Oy vey. In a world war he fought, already?
And for what - so that his cretinous semitic offspring could insult
the religious beliefs of millions of people.

Fergus O'Rourke

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Apr 2, 2002, 12:59:40 PM4/2/02
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"Michael W. Lancaster" <lanc...@deadspam.com> wrote in message
news:a8aqht$qsa3k$2...@ID-99759.news.dfncis.de...
> > "Wotan" wrote
(snip)

> > and the awful life
> > of terror and oppression the
> > Palestinians have been forced into by
> > the rapacious and murderous Jews.
>
> *****
> They brought it upon themselves.

As many Nazis said of the Jews...

Michael W. Lancaster

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Apr 2, 2002, 1:38:54 PM4/2/02
to
> "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote
>> Michael W. Lancaster wrote

>>> "Wotan" wrote
>>>
>>> Have a glance in the general direction
>>> of Palestine
>>
>> No can do. Such a thing doesn't exist
>> anywhere.
>
> Which arrogant excuse for genocide and
> land grabbing explains why the
> Palestinians are killing as many Jews
> as they can manage.
>
> And faced with such breath taking
> insolence, wouldn't anybody ?

*****
The Arabs are killing as many Jews as they can
because they hate the Jews; it's as simple as
that. They've been at the Jews' throats ever
since the stablishment of Eretz Yisrael aiming to
destroy it eventually why is why they've never
engage in meaningful diplomatic protocols. They
must be eliminated.

MWL


--
http://www.revoketheprize.org/


Michael W. Lancaster

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Apr 2, 2002, 1:40:29 PM4/2/02
to
> "Fergus O'Rourke" wrote
>> "Michael W. Lancaster" wrote

>>> "Wotan" wrote
> (snip)
>>> and the awful life
>>> of terror and oppression the
>>> Palestinians have been forced into by
>>> the rapacious and murderous Jews.
>>
>> They brought it upon themselves.
>
> As many Nazis said of the Jews...

*****
That's a rubbish analogy: the Jews had not worked
to overthrow Germany, especially not by murdering
through terrorism as many innocent German
civilians as possible. The Arabs have been doing
precisely that to Israel. Bunk.

MWL


--
http://www.revoketheprize.org/


Michael W. Lancaster

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Apr 2, 2002, 1:44:37 PM4/2/02
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> Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net>

>
> Because they control the BBC, have

*****
Well, they are certainly doing a mighty good job
of concealing it, given the bullocky 'reports'
(anti-Semitic anti-Zionist Arab propaganda) being
spewn out by the BBC.

> their
> own agenda and are engaged in open
> subversion of the Christian faith.

*****
Stick your Xian 'faith'. It's finally been
dismantled in this country after centuries of
inquisitions, burning at stakes, witch-hunts and
sectarian bloodshed; good bloody riddance. The
British people have done well to give Xianity the
heave-ho; all by themselves and without any
prompting from the Jews.

MWL


--
http://www.revoketheprize.org/


Chris Morton

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Apr 2, 2002, 1:38:22 PM4/2/02
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In article <B8CF9FC99...@hack.powernet.co.uk>,
66...@hack.powernet[dot]co[dot]uk says...

>
>In article <3ca9...@212.67.96.135>,
>"Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote:
>
>> The Nazis were our bitter enemies in the last war.
>
>That's right. My father fought in a world war to defeat nazis like you.

The Nazis always have been and will always be, the bitter enemies of sanity,
decency and humanity.


--
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
rapists.

Chris Morton

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Apr 2, 2002, 1:45:57 PM4/2/02
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In article <3ca9...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" says...

You misspelled "neutered retard".

Simon

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Apr 2, 2002, 4:12:48 PM4/2/02
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"Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote in message news:3ca9...@212.67.96.135...

>
> Simon <Si...@unikey.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3ca8ef3e$1...@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
snip

> > Yep cant get way from those jewish suicide bombers
>
> I was referring to the vast US provided army of tanks, helicopters and
> sniper rifles. Of which the Palestinians have none

And, nor did the afghan's


>
> > >
> > > And this Easter Bethlehem is surrounded by Jewish tanks.
> >
> > Good
>
> I think it is pretty clear where you stand.

Yep I dont like terrorist's regardless of there religion

snip

> > Far more are caused by control freaks like yourself
>
> There is no evidence for any such outrageous and unsubstantiated
> claim in the history of Britain prior to 1970. There is, on the other
> hand, vast amounts of hard evidence to demonstrate exactly the
> reverse.

Try looking at the 1950's for a second


>
> > >
> > > Where do you think this moral decay came from ?
> >
> > The desire of people like you to control other peoples lives and beliefs
>
> It is Blair and his Jewish dictatorship in government and the media
> who are attempting to control every aspect of peoples lives and
> beliefs - even down to what they are allowed to think and say -
> and whether or not they can sell bananas by the pound or not.

Agreed


>
> Your flat denial of reality and utter hypocrisy is entirely in
> character.

What hypocrisy?

snip

> > If they cause no harm why shouldnt people do what they like.
>
> People are not doing what they like. They are doing what the
> Jewish controlled media tells them is the right thing to do. Whilst,
> in the case of the Jewish Marxist BBC deliberately suppressing the
> Christian guidelines which protect them from the false prophets
> and self serving racketeers who exploit human weakness and
> vulnerability.

Do you really think people do things merely because the media tell them to?


>
> > >
> > > "..Give them anything and everything they want - and they will
> > > destroy themselves. And then we will take over..."
> >
> > No deny people the beliefs and you destroy lives
>
> It is the Jewish controlled media which is suppressing and denying
> them any belief except the belief in greed and self destructive self
> indulgence.

They arent suppressing anything its only the 2 major religions that want to
suppress any belief but there own
snip

> > The chrisitians tried that it was called the inquisition
> >
> They also threw the Jews out of Britain a few hundred years ago
> as an act of self defence and self preservation.

That doesnt make it right

Simon


Christopher Morton

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Apr 2, 2002, 6:42:20 PM4/2/02
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:49:23 +0100, "Wutang" <wo...@valhalla.net>
wrote:

Heroin, huh?

Bummer, Adolf.

What is a Nazi?

A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.

A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.

A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so

Christopher Morton

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Apr 2, 2002, 6:41:18 PM4/2/02
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On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:52:28 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:

>For an excellent exposé of the jewish 'contribution' to our society,
>please refer to the following:

If you want to see what the Nazis have "contributed" to society, rent
"The Damned".

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 2, 2002, 10:34:54 PM4/2/02
to

Eliminated? Perhaps the good people of Ersatz 'Israel' should think
back to when they too were to be eliminated. Santayana was right.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 2, 2002, 11:54:50 PM4/2/02
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On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 18:41:18 -0500, Christopher Morton
<chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:52:28 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
>Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:
>
>>For an excellent exposé of the jewish 'contribution' to our society,
>>please refer to the following:
>
>If you want to see what the Nazis have "contributed" to society, rent
>"The Damned".
>--

Two non-whites don't make a white.

peter

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Apr 3, 2002, 2:16:22 AM4/3/02
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In article <3ca7...@news.sierratel.com>, Tarver Engineering
<jta...@sierratel.com> stated: -

>
>"Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:RainbowChristiannoh...@1cust228.tnt26.chi15.da.uu.net.
>..
>> In article <3ca7...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net> wrote:
>>
>> <snip anti-semitic xlap-trap>
>>
>> We're supposed to believe you give .02 cents about Easter, or Christ?
>
>Easter is a celbration of Istar, the queen of heaven. Another name for the
>whore of Babylon.

hence the eggs - fertility and all that -
see the archbishops hat modelled on a fish facing up -
dunce caps - ancient Egypt etc.
Ishtar - Astarte the pagan goddess of Babylon

>
>> You obviously are familar with the prurposes and meaning of either the
>> teachings of Christ, or the meaning of Easter so please take this kind of
>> trash else where.
>
>These are two very different competing religions. Eventually the godess
>will have taken over most of the Christian Church.
>

I think the apostasy is fairly endemic already

>> 1Pe 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain
>his
>> tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile
>
>It would be evil to say nothing.
>
>John
>
>

--
peter

Paul Hyett

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Apr 3, 2002, 4:14:44 AM4/3/02
to
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Tarver Engineering <jta...@sierratel.com> stated

this considered view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>
>> Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!
>
>People are Jewish by birth.

So? I was Christian by birth, but I am an atheist now.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham, England

Paul Hyett

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Apr 3, 2002, 4:25:37 AM4/3/02
to
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered

view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>
>David Atherton <no....@me.please> wrote in message
>news:3ca86af4$1...@194.70.94.92...
>> I can't believe sensible people are responding.
>> Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.
>>
>A fairly standard reponse from those who have no answers.

Surely you're used to hearing that by now, though? Doesn't its frequency
suggest anything to you?

Paul Hyett

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Apr 3, 2002, 4:23:30 AM4/3/02
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On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, David Atherton <no....@me.please> stated this

considered view. To keep the thread going, I replied -

>I can't believe sensible people are responding.


>Look at the tone - this guy is nuts.
>

I know the person behind 'Wotan' pretty well - if you do nothing, he
convinces himself he is right.

Paul Hyett

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Apr 3, 2002, 4:12:45 AM4/3/02
to
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered

view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>
>> In which case, why mention he's a Jew?
>>
>Because they control the BBC, have their own agenda and are

>engaged in open subversion of the Christian faith.

It can't be that open, since only anti-Semites claim it is happening.


>
>They are desperate to redefine Jewishness as being a religious
>belief. It is not. It is a distinct ethnic sub-species.
>

Oh really? You've published a research paper on it, I suppose?

Paul Hyett

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Apr 3, 2002, 4:21:34 AM4/3/02
to
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered

view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>
>> Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!
>
>Jews are an ethnic group - their religion (for want of a better word)
>is entirely incidental.

I hold that that the opposite is the case. Besides, are Christians an
ethnic group?
>>
>> I can appreciate your views on many areas, even if I strongly disagree
>> with them, but this is just a wild anti-Semitic rant. :(
>
>No it's not.

You have a more 'PC' term for it then?
>
>It is a reworking of an article in the Daily Mail

No comment!

> - and of a dozen other
>articles from other newspapers.

British newspapers?
>
>The subversive and sneering actions of the media Jews is utterly
>blatant and utterly unacceptable.

In your opinion perhaps. Most people don't notice, or if they do, don't
have a problem with it.
>
>Maybe you caught the Observor Jew sneering at the Royal Family
>and Queen Mother on Channel 5 news tonight ?

No. As I mentioned, I haven't watched the coverage beyond the initial
reports.

It was sad she died, but she *was* a very old woman.

peter

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Apr 3, 2002, 5:36:15 AM4/3/02
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In article <U1A$7VHEgs...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> stated: -

>On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Tarver Engineering <jta...@sierratel.com> stated
>this considered view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>>
>>> Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!
>>
>>People are Jewish by birth.
>
>So? I was Christian by birth,

no - impossible

> but I am an atheist now.

that I doubt - you have things which you would die for. There lies your
heart - there lies your religion.

--
peter

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 3, 2002, 4:52:22 AM4/3/02
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:21:34 +0100, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
>view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>>
>>> Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!
>>
>>Jews are an ethnic group - their religion (for want of a better word)
>>is entirely incidental.
>
>I hold that that the opposite is the case.

Don't be ridiculous. How can someone's religious beliefs, which can
be changed at will, give them distinctive facial features?

rand mair fheal

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Apr 3, 2002, 6:37:49 AM4/3/02
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In article <B8D090139...@hack.powernet.co.uk>,

66...@hack.powernet[dot]co[dot]uk (Simon Gardner) wrote:

> In article <3ca7...@news.sierratel.com>,
> "Tarver Engineering" <jta...@sierratel.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, I am exactly correct. Istar is Easter in english.
>
> OED> Easter (<ph>"i:st@(r)</ph>), n.1 Forms: 1 (as pl.)
> OED> <eacu>astron, -un, -an, -u, -o, Northumb.

all this was already pointed out
youre dealing with aggressive stupidity

Christopher Morton

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Apr 3, 2002, 7:26:17 AM4/3/02
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On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 04:54:50 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 18:41:18 -0500, Christopher Morton
><chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:52:28 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
>>Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:
>>
>>>For an excellent exposé of the jewish 'contribution' to our society,
>>>please refer to the following:
>>
>>If you want to see what the Nazis have "contributed" to society, rent
>>"The Damned".
>>--
>Two non-whites don't make a white.

A Nazi and a little boy only make a felony.

What is a Nazi?

A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.

A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.

A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so
he wants to murder his betters.

A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants
to murder those who tell it.

A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to
murder the past, to wipe out the knowledge
of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National Socialism.

Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of
educated, informed adults. Freedom of
choice terrifies him... which is why he
chooses minor children as sexual partners.
He can't interact with competent adults in
a consensually sexual way. He needs to be
able to impose himself on a helpless victim,
be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.

These are the things that a Nazi is, and
there's nothing polite or honest about it.

Christopher Morton

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Apr 3, 2002, 7:26:58 AM4/3/02
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PUBLISH a paper?

You'd be lucky if you could train him to GO ON the paper.

Tarver Engineering

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Apr 3, 2002, 11:22:18 AM4/3/02
to

"rand mair fheal" <mair_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mair_fheal-03...@c32.ppp.tsoft.com...

As a word trick is is fine, but it does not explain away the traditions of
Ishtar included in the Easter celebration. More likely the two of you use
the definitionas obsfucation. Certainly the truth of the matter bodes
poorly for goddess worshipers.

John


Tarver Engineering

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Apr 3, 2002, 11:25:02 AM4/3/02
to

"peter" <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:TsUqqeUG...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...

> In article <3ca7...@news.sierratel.com>, Tarver Engineering
> <jta...@sierratel.com> stated: -
> >
> >"Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
>news:RainbowChristiannoh...@1cust228.tnt26.chi15.da.uu.net
.
> >..
> >> In article <3ca7...@212.67.96.135>, "Wotan" <wo...@valhalla.net>
wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip anti-semitic xlap-trap>
> >>
> >> We're supposed to believe you give .02 cents about Easter, or Christ?
> >
> >Easter is a celbration of Istar, the queen of heaven. Another name for
the
> >whore of Babylon.
>
> hence the eggs - fertility and all that -
> see the archbishops hat modelled on a fish facing up -
> dunce caps - ancient Egypt etc.
> Ishtar - Astarte the pagan goddess of Babylon

Yes, and all her other names. Diane, Artemius, Tamaz et al.

> >> You obviously are familar with the prurposes and meaning of either the
> >> teachings of Christ, or the meaning of Easter so please take this kind
of
> >> trash else where.
> >
> >These are two very different competing religions. Eventually the godess
> >will have taken over most of the Christian Church.

> I think the apostasy is fairly endemic already

It was a foregone conclusion from 99 ad when Revelations was written.

All we are missing now is Daniels fourth beast.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 3, 2002, 10:45:44 AM4/3/02
to
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 07:26:17 -0500, Christopher Morton
<chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 04:54:50 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
>Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 18:41:18 -0500, Christopher Morton
>><chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:52:28 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
>>>Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:
>>>
>>>>For an excellent exposé of the jewish 'contribution' to our society,
>>>>please refer to the following:
>>>
>>>If you want to see what the Nazis have "contributed" to society, rent
>>>"The Damned".
>>>--
>>Two non-whites don't make a white.
>
>A Nazi and a little boy only make a felony.

Ah, yes:
http://www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/mohel.htm

<repetitive drivel snipped>

Chris Morton

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Apr 3, 2002, 2:01:16 PM4/3/02
to
In article <3cab226...@news.cis.dfn.de>, rene...@anglican.org says...

><repetitive drivel snipped>

How do they separate the men from the boys in the National Alliance?

With a crowbar.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 4, 2002, 12:46:06 AM4/4/02
to
On 3 Apr 2002 11:01:16 -0800, Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>In article <3cab226...@news.cis.dfn.de>, rene...@anglican.org says...
>
>><repetitive drivel snipped>
>
>How do they separate the men from the boys in the National Alliance?
>
>With a crowbar.
>

And who has been most active in promoting homosexuality over the past
several decades? Hollywood's jews.

Christopher Morton

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Apr 4, 2002, 7:11:36 AM4/4/02
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What do "Hollywood's jews" have to do with Nazis' propensity for child
molesation? Are you saying that they talked you into being
pedophiles?

You fondlers of little boys claim that "the Jews" (tm) control the
banks and the media.

You have now apparently added YOURSELVES to the list!

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 4, 2002, 9:32:19 AM4/4/02
to
On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 07:11:36 -0500, Christopher Morton
<chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 05:46:06 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
>Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:
>
>>On 3 Apr 2002 11:01:16 -0800, Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3cab226...@news.cis.dfn.de>, rene...@anglican.org says...
>>>
>>>><repetitive drivel snipped>
>>>
>>>How do they separate the men from the boys in the National Alliance?
>>>
>>>With a crowbar.
>>>
>>
>>And who has been most active in promoting homosexuality over the past
>>several decades? Hollywood's jews.
>
>What do "Hollywood's jews" have to do with Nazis' propensity for child
>molesation? Are you saying that they talked you into being
>pedophiles?

>You fondlers of little boys claim that "the Jews" (tm) control the
>banks and the media.
>
>You have now apparently added YOURSELVES to the list!

You appear to have an unhealthy interest in child molestation. Is
there something you'd like to tell us?

Paul Hyett

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Apr 4, 2002, 4:37:13 AM4/4/02
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>
>My mother was tee total and never smoked.
>
>I gather golden apples featured in her diet.

French Golden Delicious perhaps?

Oh no, wouldn't that make her a traitor in your eyes? :)

Paul Hyett

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Apr 4, 2002, 4:24:46 AM4/4/02
to
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>
>What I do know is that Blair's Jewish government attempted
>to legalise the buggery of 16 year old boys.

How can you claim Blair's gov't is Jewish, anyway? Jack Straw is the
only one I'm certain of, and if there are any others, are they
practising Jews?

Say two or three members of the Cabinet had red hair - it would be
absurd to claim the red-hairs were running the gov't, wouldn't it?
>
>The predilections of Mandelsohn are well known

He's a back-bencher, so has very little effect.

> - as is the
>listing of Jack Straw's brother on the paedophile list.

He's not part of the gov't.
>
>And the proliferation of pornography and debased filth by
>the Jewish controlled media is there for anybody who cares
>to switch on a television to see.

Most porn is on the internet, the tiny proportion on TV at least is
regulated.
>
>The filthy and disgusting works of the likes of Tracey Emin,
>displayed in a Jewish controlled art gallery and backed as
>official art by Blair's government of depravity

Isn't freedom of expression something you support then? As long as it
breaks no laws, what is the problem?
>
>All of which is testimony to the sneering contempt and hatred
>in which they hold the British people and nation, the Christian
>faith and all values of decency.

IMO, insidious prejudice & hatred are far more dangerous.

Paul Hyett

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Apr 4, 2002, 4:42:52 AM4/4/02
to
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>
>An enemy which we defeated and as a result of which
>victory every Jew now alive on the earth owes his life.

We defeated the Nazi's, but unfortunately not anti-Semitism.
>
>Pity more of them don't remember that when they are pouring
>their vicious hatred and contempt on us !

If that's the only criterion, doesn't that imply you are Jewish? :)
>
>Nor is there any evidence of cowardice amongst Palestinian
>youths who strap explosives to their bodies and blow
>themselves to pieces

Not cowardice, just insanity!

Paul Hyett

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Apr 4, 2002, 4:39:44 AM4/4/02
to
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>
>> Yep cant get way from those jewish suicide bombers
>
>I was referring to the vast US provided army of tanks, helicopters and
>sniper rifles. Of which the Palestinians have none
>
They also have nukes, which is presumably the only think that restrains
the Muslim countries surrounding Israel.

Paul Hyett

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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
<rene...@anglican.org> stated this considered view. To keep the thread

going, I replied -
>On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:21:34 +0100, Paul Hyett
><pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
>>view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>>>
>>>Jews are an ethnic group - their religion (for want of a better word)
>>>is entirely incidental.
>>
>>I hold that that the opposite is the case.
>
>Don't be ridiculous. How can someone's religious beliefs, which can
>be changed at will, give them distinctive facial features?

It's 'Wotan' you need to convince, not me!

Paul Hyett

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Apr 4, 2002, 4:34:06 AM4/4/02
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> stated this

considered view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>
>>So? I was Christian by birth,
>
>no - impossible

Why? I thought C of E automatically meant Christian?

>
>> but I am an atheist now.
>
>that I doubt - you have things which you would die for. There lies your
>heart - there lies your religion.

Bob Knauer claims I am an agnostic, rather than an atheist. If you want
to think of me as the former, go ahead, but I still don't believe in
God.

Robert Henderson

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Apr 4, 2002, 12:15:03 PM4/4/02
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In article <UMMv1KA1...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered

>view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>
>>The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
>>atheist
>
>Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!

Have you never heard of secular Jews? RH
--
Robert Henderson

Dr. Sunil

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Apr 4, 2002, 12:40:30 PM4/4/02
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A secular Christian writes.

peter

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Apr 4, 2002, 3:22:28 PM4/4/02
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In article <o5DwIFBO...@activist.demon.co.uk>, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> stated: -

>On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> stated this
>considered view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>>
>>>So? I was Christian by birth,
>>
>>no - impossible
>
>Why? I thought C of E automatically meant Christian?

you are only a Christian when you declare that Christ was God incarnate
and believe He rose from the dead - babies can't think so are not of any
"faith" - hence "believe and be baptised" is a call to believers who are
old enough to decide for themselves if they accept this - hence I am a
Baptist and my children are not Baptised.

>>
>>> but I am an atheist now.
>>
>>that I doubt - you have things which you would die for. There lies your
>>heart - there lies your religion.
>

>Bob Knauer claims I am an agnostic, rather than an atheist. If you want
>to think of me as the former, go ahead, but I still don't believe in
>God.

see above -

Bob says we are all unarmed peasant wimps - we aren't.

--
peter

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 4, 2002, 9:40:59 PM4/4/02
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:35:44 +0100, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
><rene...@anglican.org> stated this considered view. To keep the thread
>going, I replied -
>>On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:21:34 +0100, Paul Hyett
>><pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
>>>view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>>>>
>>>>Jews are an ethnic group - their religion (for want of a better word)
>>>>is entirely incidental.
>>>
>>>I hold that that the opposite is the case.
>>
>>Don't be ridiculous. How can someone's religious beliefs, which can
>>be changed at will, give them distinctive facial features?
>
>It's 'Wotan' you need to convince, not me!

I'm sorry - I understood from what you wrote above that you hold that
jews are a religious group and their ethnicity is entirely incidental.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 4, 2002, 9:41:00 PM4/4/02
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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:24:46 +0100, Paul Hyett
<pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
>view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>
>>What I do know is that Blair's Jewish government attempted
>>to legalise the buggery of 16 year old boys.
>
>How can you claim Blair's gov't is Jewish, anyway? Jack Straw is the
>only one I'm certain of, and if there are any others, are they
>practising Jews?

Any jew who behaves like a jew is a practising jew.

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 4, 2002, 11:08:11 PM4/4/02
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On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 22:21:31 GMT, Gordon L. Richard
<gord...@swbell.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:25:20 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
><jta...@sierratel.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Paul Hyett" <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:UMMv1KA1...@activist.demon.co.uk...
>>> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered


>>> view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>>

>>> >The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
>>> >atheist
>>>
>>> Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!
>>

>>People are Jewish by birth.
>>

>>John
>>
>The people you refer to as Jews are probably Hebrew. These people
>would likely be Hebrew by birth, and Jewish by reason of their
>faith. Of course, a person of any race or genetic makeup can be a
>Jew, but only a Hebrew can be a Hebrew.
>

Hebrew is the ancient language of the jewish people and the official
language of 'Israel'. It is not an ethnic delineation, unless you
include the derogatory term 'Hebe' used for jews.
While it is true that a person of any race can become a jew by
converting to judaism while retaining his original ethnicity, the same
person can cease to be a jew the following day by converting to Islam.
Conversely, however, a jew who converts to Christianity, remains
ethnically a jew.
Religion can be changed at will; ethnicity cannot.

jeremy...@hotmail.com

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Apr 5, 2002, 3:04:25 AM4/5/02
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 02:41:00 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:

>On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:24:46 +0100, Paul Hyett
><pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
>>view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>>
>>>What I do know is that Blair's Jewish government attempted
>>>to legalise the buggery of 16 year old boys.

That would be strange. Homosexual acts are *extremely* disapproved of
in the Jewish faith.

>>
>>How can you claim Blair's gov't is Jewish, anyway? Jack Straw is the
>>only one I'm certain of, and if there are any others, are they
>>practising Jews?
>
>Any jew who behaves like a jew is a practising jew.

What exactly is behaving like a jew? I've seen 'Oliver' so someone
like Fagin maybe?

--
Rgds Jeremy

"Think for yourselves and let others enjoy
the privilege to do so too."

Voltaire 1694-1778

peter

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Apr 5, 2002, 3:10:35 AM4/5/02
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In article <j8kpausgek5o5qgv3...@4ax.com>, Gordon L.
Richard <gord...@swbell.net> stated: -

>On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 11:25:20 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
><jta...@sierratel.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Paul Hyett" <pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:UMMv1KA1...@activist.demon.co.uk...
>>> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered

>>> view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>>
>>> >The head of "religious" broadcasting at the BBC is a Jewish
>>> >atheist
>>>
>>> Either he is Jewish *or* an atheist, you cannot be both!
>>
>>People are Jewish by birth.
>>
>>John
>>
>The people you refer to as Jews are probably Hebrew. These people
>would likely be Hebrew by birth, and Jewish by reason of their
>faith. Of course, a person of any race or genetic makeup can be a
>Jew, but only a Hebrew can be a Hebrew.
>
I don't think so........, perhaps you should read Arthur Koestler's "The
Thirteenth Tribe" There appears to be some confusion especially amongst
American Evangelicals that Israelis are Israelites.


--
peter

boazlebub

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Apr 5, 2002, 4:16:33 AM4/5/02
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"Gordon L. Richard" <gord...@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:8kkpauk9dhev037jl...@4ax.com...

> To be an atheist, one would reasonably have PROVEN to him/herself
> that God absolutely does not, can not exist.

that's atheist-ist, that is! ask a religious person if their god exists.
"yes", they'll say. ask them to prove it. "i don't have to... i know!",
they'll say.

atheism is the belief there is no god. the non-existence of god does not
need proof just as much as the existence of god does not need proof.


rand mair fheal

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Apr 5, 2002, 6:04:21 AM4/5/02
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> I don't think so........, perhaps you should read Arthur Koestler's "The
> Thirteenth Tribe" There appears to be some confusion especially amongst
> American Evangelicals that Israelis are Israelites.

youre refering to christian identity?
the only christian part of this heresy is their appropriation of the name

american christians debate whether jews are still the chosen people
(as if its their decision anyway)
but not whether jews are jews

rand mair fheal

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Apr 5, 2002, 6:06:35 AM4/5/02
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In article <B8D322539...@hack.powernet.co.uk>,

66...@hack.powernet[dot]co[dot]uk (Simon Gardner) wrote:

> In article <8kkpauk9dhev037jl...@4ax.com>,


> Gordon L. Richard <gord...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> > To be an atheist, one would reasonably have PROVEN to him/herself
> > that God absolutely does not, can not exist.
>

> It is bleeding obvious - beyond all reasonable doubt, and then some - that
> this god bolocks is a very, very silly load of crap.

again i point out the vast majority of humans past and present disagree with you
so perhaps youre not using the usual definition of -obvious-

The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe

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Apr 5, 2002, 5:27:50 AM4/5/02
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On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 08:04:25 GMT, jeremy...@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Apr 2002 02:41:00 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
>Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:24:46 +0100, Paul Hyett
>><pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Wotan <wo...@valhalla.net> stated this considered
>>>view. To keep the thread going, I replied -
>>>>
>>>>What I do know is that Blair's Jewish government attempted
>>>>to legalise the buggery of 16 year old boys.
>
>That would be strange. Homosexual acts are *extremely* disapproved of
>in the Jewish faith.

Indeed they are. However, Blair's (secular) jews wouldn't recognize a
synagogue if they tripped over one.

>>>How can you claim Blair's gov't is Jewish, anyway? Jack Straw is the
>>>only one I'm certain of, and if there are any others, are they
>>>practising Jews?
>>
>>Any jew who behaves like a jew is a practising jew.
>
>What exactly is behaving like a jew? I've seen 'Oliver' so someone
>like Fagin maybe?

Yes, indeed. The stereotype is not without foundation.

jeremy...@hotmail.com

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Apr 5, 2002, 6:52:33 AM4/5/02
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On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 22:58:54 GMT, Gordon L. Richard
<gord...@swbell.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:34:06 +0100, Paul Hyett
><pah...@activist.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>[snip]


>>
>>Bob Knauer claims I am an agnostic, rather than an atheist. If you want
>>to think of me as the former, go ahead, but I still don't believe in
>>God.
>

>To be an atheist, one would reasonably have PROVEN to him/herself

>that God absolutely does not, can not exist. Doubting God's
>existence doesn't constitute proof. How have you PROVEN to your
>satisfaction that God absolutely doesn't exist?

Surely the converse is therefore true also, i.e. to be a theist one
would reasonably have proven to him/herself that God absolutely does,
must exist.

Perhaps you would care to share the proof with the rest of us.

>
>The physical space/time we occupy is much more complex than most
>people realize. There are certainly many aspects of space/time
>domains that seemingly would allow the existence of God.
>Kaluza-Klein theory, Yang-Mills theory, Einstein's theory and
>Maxwell's equations seem to point to the existence of at least
>10, and perhaps as many as 26 other dimensions beyond our own
>space/time.

Ah, an expert on physics. Care to share your credentials with the rest
of us?


>If you will, please indulge in the following conceptual exercise
>to develop a construct that will help visualize how other
>space/time sets could exist.
>
>Imagine yourself seated in front of a large screened TV. Now, in
>your imagination, expand the TV screen to infinity in width and
>height. Next, discard the hardware, leaving only the image in
>place.
>
>The people in that image are free to move about in their own
>three dimensional space. That is, their universe appears to them
>to be a fully three dimensional space. They can move in any
>direction and go as far as their imaginations can take them.

Fundemental flaw here. The image is 2 dimensional therefore the
'people' can only move in 2 dimensions. The illusion of 3 dimensions
is given by our brain interpreting the image. For example if the
image shows a person superimposed on a wall then our brain interprets
that as the person being in front of the wall even though it is
patently clear that the image of the person and the wall is actually
at the same distance from the observer.
>
>But, their universe is merely a sub-set of the three-dimensional
>space you occupy. Is your own three dimensional space similarly a
>subset of another set of dimensions? Kaluza-Klein theory defined
>in 4+N dimensions seems to point to just such.
>
>The wide screened TV exercise is merely a mental construct, and
>not to be taken as anything more than a means for visualizing how
>our three dimensional space/time could fit into other dimensions
>of space/time. Those places referred to in the Bible as the
>levels of Heaven and Hell could possibly be situated in other
>space/time domains of the 10 that seem to be somehow linked to
>our own three dimensional space/time set.

Many things are possible. The tooth fairy is possible. Whether
something is probable or certain is not the same thing.

BTW, I understand that current thinking is for there to be less that
10 dimensions, but then I don't profess to be an expert.
>
>Is it rational to throw this all aside and adamantly deny it
>until you fully understand it? Do you fully understand it? I
>certainly don't, and I know of no one who does.
>
While I have no problem with your belief in the existance of God, that
is your belief and as such is unassailable I would ask you to have the
courtesy to allow others to disagree with you.

A final thought. *If* I could prove the nonexistance of God, would you
then abandon your *belief* in God?

Christopher Morton

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Apr 5, 2002, 7:07:24 AM4/5/02
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On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 14:32:19 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:

>On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 07:11:36 -0500, Christopher Morton
><chr...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 04 Apr 2002 05:46:06 GMT, rene...@anglican.org (The Revd
>>Terence Fformby-Smythe) wrote:
>>
>>>On 3 Apr 2002 11:01:16 -0800, Chris Morton <cmo...@newsguy.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <3cab226...@news.cis.dfn.de>, rene...@anglican.org says...
>>>>
>>>>><repetitive drivel snipped>
>>>>
>>>>How do they separate the men from the boys in the National Alliance?
>>>>
>>>>With a crowbar.
>>>>
>>>
>>>And who has been most active in promoting homosexuality over the past
>>>several decades? Hollywood's jews.
>>
>>What do "Hollywood's jews" have to do with Nazis' propensity for child
>>molesation? Are you saying that they talked you into being
>>pedophiles?
>
>>You fondlers of little boys claim that "the Jews" (tm) control the
>>banks and the media.
>>
>>You have now apparently added YOURSELVES to the list!
>
>You appear to have an unhealthy interest in child molestation. Is

You seem not to want the topic discussed.

How long have you been a priest?

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