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BikeFan

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May 16, 2008, 1:45:37 PM5/16/08
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Bush went cap in hand to his masters in Israel and then tried
to strongarm the Saudis to pump more oil. Oddly, they refused.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/bush.saudi.arabia/index.html
I guess he's more scared of what the Federal Reserve can do to the US
than Saudi.

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BikeFan

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basho007 wrote:
> BikeFan <mistontheloch!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:g0kh8c$v56$1
> @registered.motzarella.org:
> I saw two Charts from a Federal Reserve site today that seem to indicate
> why the current economic situation cannot be compared to prior crises.
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> The first
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> http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BOGNONBR
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> The second
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> http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BORROW
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> interpretations from usenet experts are invited.

It appears, if I am interpreting those correctly that
the depository institutions are seeing a significant drop off
in non-borrowed reserves, while at the same time, they are
borrowing a lot of money from the Fed. This means that the public
is broke and have no savings or reserves and neither do many
public and private companies? It also means the depository
institutions have lost a lot of money in speculative
ventures such as the subprime mortgage debacle?

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BikeFan

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May 16, 2008, 2:39:39 PM5/16/08
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basho007 wrote:
> BikeFan <mistontheloch!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:g0kh8c$v56$1
> @registered.motzarella.org:
>
> I saw two Charts from a Federal Reserve site today that seem to indicate
> why the current economic situation cannot be compared to prior crises.
>
>
>
> The first
>
>
> http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BOGNONBR
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>
> The second
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> http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BORROW
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>
> interpretations from usenet experts are invited.

It would appear that institutions have lost a lot of their
reserves and are borrowing considerably more from the Fed.
Hence, people, public and private US companies have lost
a lot of their savings or assets as well and can no longer
save much. Seems pretty dire.


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Jeff Strickland

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May 16, 2008, 4:06:20 PM5/16/08
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"BikeFan" <mistontheloch!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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It's a good thing you don't live here else you would have to throw yourself
off a tall building in mid-town Manhattan, and we'd all be burdened with the
endless hours of news reporting of the damage you did to a taxi cab.

Joe

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May 16, 2008, 10:27:23 PM5/16/08
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wrong again, but I'm sure u r used to that. saudi's increase oil
300,000 barrels a day thanks to the greatest president in history.

BikeFan

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May 16, 2008, 10:44:50 PM5/16/08
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> Really? Obviously you can't read very well.
> Saudi Arabia Friday rebuffed President Bush's request to immediately pump more oil to lower record prices, saying it does not see enough demand to increase production.
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> President Bush walks on Friday with Saudi King Abdullah in Riyadh.
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> The Saudis said they would increase production if customers demanded it, Steven Hadley, Bush's national security adviser, said.
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> Ali al-Naimi, the Saudi oil minister, on Friday said the country had increased its production by 300,000 barrels a day on May 10 in response to customer requests.

Clearly that had nothing to do with Bush.


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e1313

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May 16, 2008, 10:46:43 PM5/16/08
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Thats a load of crap, they increased the output as a result of demand
on May 10, not Bush you gerbil.

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Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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May 16, 2008, 10:47:56 PM5/16/08
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And Iran is doing a longterm oil deal with the Chinese, in Euros.
I bet someone won't like that...

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e1313

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May 16, 2008, 10:48:34 PM5/16/08
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Exactly. No wonder the GOP are so screwed when they have people
like that who feel Bush is "great". We could classify them as
idiots and institutionalize them. Probably save us money
long term.


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kim

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May 17, 2008, 12:02:27 AM5/17/08
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 22:46:43 -0400, e1313 <e1...@oddalliances.org>
wrote:

Actually, I think the demand story is a crock of crap too. If U.S.
demand dropped 7% as some say, doesn't this make up for the Chinese
and Indians?

BTW, the Chinese control and subsidize the gas prices to its people
while the U.S. taxes the hell out of it. Guess who is getting
screwed?

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ayatollah obama

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May 17, 2008, 1:50:47 AM5/17/08
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ayatollah obama

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May 17, 2008, 1:54:53 AM5/17/08
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On May 17, 12:08 am, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
> How did Bill CLinton get them to do that?  ;->
>
> 300,000 barrels a day? LOL. That's so far below mere tokenism you
> can't even see it from there.
>
> Wow, OPEC pumps 31.87 million barrels per day and they upped
> production 300,000 barrels?  LOL.
>
> A .001% increase?  LOL.

And the piglosi led congress, that passed the *feel-good* legislation
to stop putting oil into the SPR.... Bush has added 21Mbbls since
Katrina (The SPR is now back to the pre-Katrina level), that's an
average of 20Kbbls per day.

And the *feel-good* legislation is just that

BikeFan

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May 17, 2008, 7:06:52 AM5/17/08
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retro...@comcast.net wrote:

> On Sat, 17 May 2008 03:47:56 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
> <dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Joe wrote:
>>> BikeFan wrote:
>>>> Bush went cap in hand to his masters in Israel and then tried
>>>> to strongarm the Saudis to pump more oil. Oddly, they refused.
>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/bush.saudi.arabia/index.html
>>>> I guess he's more scared of what the Federal Reserve can do to the US
>>>> than Saudi.
>>>>
>>> wrong again, but I'm sure u r used to that. saudi's increase oil
>>> 300,000 barrels a day thanks to the greatest president in history.
>> And Iran is doing a longterm oil deal with the Chinese, in Euros.
>> I bet someone won't like that...
>
>
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/363292_friedman16.html
>
> Seattle Post-Intelligencer
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/363292_friedman16.html
>
> We'll lose a Cold War with Iran
>
> Last updated May 15, 2008 4:41 p.m. PT
>
> By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
> SYNDICATED COLUMNIST
>
> The next American president will inherit many foreign policy
> challenges, but surely one of the biggest will be the Cold War. Yes,
> the next president is going to be a Cold War president -- but this
> Cold War is with Iran.
>
> That is the real umbrella story in the Middle East today -- the
> struggle for influence across the region, with the U.S. and its Sunni
> Arab allies (and Israel) versus Iran, Syria and their non-state
> allies, Hamas and Hezbollah. As the May 11 editorial in the Iranian
> daily Kayhan put it, "In the power struggle in the Middle East, there
> are only two sides: Iran and the U.S."
>
> For now, Team America is losing on just about every front. How come?
> The short answer is that Iran is smart and ruthless, America is dumb
> and weak, and the Sunni Arab world is feckless and divided. Any other
> questions?
>
> The outrage of the week is the Iranian-Syrian-Hezbollah attempt to
> take over Lebanon. Hezbollah thugs pushed into Sunni neighborhoods in
> West Beirut, focusing particular attention on crushing progressive
> news outlets like Future TV, so Hezbollah's propaganda machine could
> dominate the airwaves. The Shiite militia Hezbollah emerged supposedly
> to protect Lebanon from Israel. Having done that, it has now turned
> around and sold Lebanon to Syria and Iran.

Sorry, but Judith Miller finished the NYT and any utterances
from Jewish journalists for me. I will automatically
assume that they are filled with some truth, half-truth, outright
lies and Israeli propaganda and disinformation.

Israel is the prime beneficiary of any instability on her borders
and within her neighbouring states. So Hezbollah must be her secret
friend. Talk about false-flag operations.

Many of these operations have echoes of the old South African
Apartheid regimes destabilize the neighbours programs. On the surface
they looked like legitimate attempts by locals to change the
game, but when you looked into the funding it was all coming from
South Africa and the west. Which makes me wonder who Israel
might be covertly supplying arms and funds to out there to keep the
regional chaos going. HEZBOLLAH and FATAH??

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BikeFan

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May 17, 2008, 7:10:02 AM5/17/08
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Whats it really like to know that you will have only a ghostly
shadow of your former representation in Congress and the White
House in January? Must really suck to know that you're going to
be reduced to being the party of the eccentric loony rightwing
with about 20% of the seats and most of those from Utah...

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May 17, 2008, 12:35:50 PM5/17/08
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On May 16, 6:45 pm, BikeFan <mistonthelo...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Bush went cap in hand to his masters in Israel and then tried
> to strongarm the Saudis to pump more oil. Oddly, they refused.http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/bush.saudi.arabia/index.html

> I guess he's more scared of what the Federal Reserve can do to the US
> than Saudi.
>
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Bush is jewish

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Jeff Strickland

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May 17, 2008, 10:07:43 PM5/17/08
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There is no reason to "appease" Israel. They are our friend.

Appeasment is a term used to ward off foes. Idiot.


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BikeFan

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Jeff Strickland wrote:
> There is no reason to "appease" Israel. They are our friend.
>
> Appeasment is a term used to ward off foes. Idiot.

Tell that to the survivors of USS Liberty. With friends
like this who would get us to turn our kids into cannon fodder
for them before they would use their own, we don't need them.


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> "BikeFan" <mistontheloch!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> Bush went cap in hand to his masters in Israel and then tried
>> to strongarm the Saudis to pump more oil. Oddly, they refused.
>> http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/bush.saudi.arabia/index.html
>> I guess he's more scared of what the Federal Reserve can do to the US
>> than Saudi.
>>
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