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Ramon F. Herrera
May 9, 2012, 7:54:14 PM5/9/12
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New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
"It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
population and other Christians."
http://tinyurl.com/88mtfzg
-Ramon
ps: Most Catholics are Democrats.
Not Sure
May 9, 2012, 8:07:41 PM5/9/12
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Steve from Colorado
May 9, 2012, 8:51:07 PM5/9/12
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On May 9, 5:54 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>
> "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
> their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
> are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
> population and other Christians."
One can't believe that the Bible is the word of Jehovah God and at
> New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>
> "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
> their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
> are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
> population and other Christians."
the same time support the homosexual lifestyle. But if it makes it
easier for you and your same sex partners, Pirate John or Mr. Sandman,
to attend Catholic church together as a couple or threesome, then this
new "report" should be good news for you. You will find a more
tolerant atmosphere for your "lifestyle" than in, say, Africa or some
of the islands in the Caribbean where the teachings of the Old
Testament are still taken seriously.
Ramon F Herrera
May 10, 2012, 9:34:10 AM5/10/12
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wy
May 10, 2012, 11:35:22 AM5/10/12
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http://publicreligion.org/research/
Suck on that. Unless you think it'll make you gay.
plainolamerican
May 10, 2012, 11:41:17 AM5/10/12
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it's the myth believing religious that persecute the gays.
it's good thing we have a secular government
Ramon F Herrera
May 10, 2012, 12:45:57 PM5/10/12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Argentina
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Spain
http://tinyurl.com/7eebkx4
-Ramon
Ramon F Herrera
May 10, 2012, 12:49:27 PM5/10/12
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On May 9, 7:51 pm, Steve from Colorado <gass...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> On May 9, 5:54 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>
> > "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
> > their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
> > are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
> > population and other Christians."
>
> One can't believe that the Bible is the word of Jehovah God
> and at the same time support the homosexual lifestyle.
There is a lot of homosexual activities going on in the Bible. Owning
>
> > New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>
> > "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
> > their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
> > are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
> > population and other Christians."
>
> One can't believe that the Bible is the word of Jehovah God
> and at the same time support the homosexual lifestyle.
of slaves, too.
-Ramon
plainolamerican
May 10, 2012, 2:41:19 PM5/10/12
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Lamont Cranston
May 14, 2012, 8:22:29 PM5/14/12
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On 5/9/2012 5:51 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
> On May 9, 5:54 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera"<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>> New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>>
>> "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
>> their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
>> are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
>> population and other Christians."
>
> One can't believe that the Bible is the word of Jehovah God and at
> the same time support the homosexual lifestyle.
Horseshit. Please provide us with biblical references of Jesus'
> On May 9, 5:54 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera"<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>> New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>>
>> "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
>> their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
>> are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
>> population and other Christians."
>
> One can't believe that the Bible is the word of Jehovah God and at
> the same time support the homosexual lifestyle.
comments about homosexuals. Put them here ==>
P.S. There is no "homosexual lifestyle," kook.
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Hisler
May 14, 2012, 9:11:20 PM5/14/12
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around at the time of Sodom and Gomorrah.
>
> P.S. There is no "homosexual lifestyle," kook.
Leon Manfredi
May 14, 2012, 9:28:42 PM5/14/12
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linuxgal
May 14, 2012, 10:54:26 PM5/14/12
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Hisler wrote:
> I include the Old Testament in my definition of Bible. Jesus wasn't
> around at the time of Sodom and Gomorrah.
So you must reject the Nicean formulation that Jesus is "eternally
> I include the Old Testament in my definition of Bible. Jesus wasn't
> around at the time of Sodom and Gomorrah.
begotten of the Father".
Hisler
May 15, 2012, 12:14:59 AM5/15/12
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trainguard
May 15, 2012, 5:21:13 AM5/15/12
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Testament seriously, and actually went out of his way to ridicule and
annoy those who did.
So why should you?
Dr. Barry Worthington
> >http://tinyurl.com/88mtfzg
>
> > -Ramon
>
> > ps: Most Catholics are Democrats.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
trainguard
May 15, 2012, 5:24:47 AM5/15/12
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On May 15, 2:11 am, Hisler <his...@cocks.net> wrote:
> On 5/14/2012 6:22 PM, Lamont Cranston wrote:
>
> > On 5/9/2012 5:51 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
> >> On May 9, 5:54 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera"<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> >>> New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>
> >>> "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
> >>> their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
> >>> are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
> >>> population and other Christians."
>
> >> One can't believe that the Bible is the word of Jehovah God and at
> >> the same time support the homosexual lifestyle.
>
> > Horseshit. Please provide us with biblical references of Jesus' comments
> > about homosexuals. Put them here ==>
>
> I include the Old Testament in my definition of Bible.
That's a pity, because most Christians ignore large parts of it. You
> On 5/14/2012 6:22 PM, Lamont Cranston wrote:
>
> > On 5/9/2012 5:51 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
> >> On May 9, 5:54 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera"<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> >>> New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>
> >>> "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
> >>> their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
> >>> are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
> >>> population and other Christians."
>
> >> One can't believe that the Bible is the word of Jehovah God and at
> >> the same time support the homosexual lifestyle.
>
> > Horseshit. Please provide us with biblical references of Jesus' comments
> > about homosexuals. Put them here ==>
>
> I include the Old Testament in my definition of Bible.
see, most of us believe in a 'New Covenant'. You appear not to.....
Dr. Barry Worthington
trainguard
May 15, 2012, 5:26:22 AM5/15/12
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Dr. Barry Worthington
linuxgal
May 15, 2012, 6:56:33 AM5/15/12
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trainguard wrote:
> Christ himself didn't take the pre-Talmudic verstion of the Old
> Testament seriously, and actually went out of his way to ridicule and
> annoy those who did.
Actually, he elevated the OT a bit. He said not one jot nor tittle
> Christ himself didn't take the pre-Talmudic verstion of the Old
> Testament seriously, and actually went out of his way to ridicule and
> annoy those who did.
would pass away until the end of time.
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trainguard
May 15, 2012, 8:24:59 AM5/15/12
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hundred or so religious rules by which the devout lived. Or was he?
You see, he openly ridiculed the behaviour of some of the Pharisees in
their legalistic interpretations of the 'law.' When the lawyer
'tempted' him, the man is asked what the law says. The response is the
summary that Gamaliel or Hillel would have given...a summary of the
"spirit" of the law, not its legalisms. And Christ approved of that.
This is the man, remember, who deliberately broke sabbath observances
to make a point! And elsewhere subverted the regulation, as in the
woman taken in adultery, or the parable of the Good Samaratian.
He 'fulfils' the law with a New Covenant. The old legalisms are
redundant. Most Christians believe that (apart from some religious
nutters).
Dr. Barry Worthington
Eddie Haskell
May 15, 2012, 10:18:21 AM5/15/12
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"Lamont Cranston" <Fri...@Umbra.org> wrote in message
news:jos7k4$lg3$2...@news.datemas.de...
> P.S. There is no "homosexual lifestyle," kook.
Die in hell.
-Eddie Haskell
Martin Ambuhl
May 16, 2012, 3:39:03 AM5/16/12
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Steve from Colorado wrote on Wednesday, May 09, 2012 08:51 PM
(alt.politics.democrats):
>
> One can't believe that the Bible is the word of Jehovah God and at
> the same time support the homosexual lifestyle.
Even if your assertion were true, it is irrelevant. It is time for learn
that for believers in the Cosmic Muffin the meaning of "The Bible is word of
[incorrect Germanization of the name of the name of the god of the Jews
deleted] God" has a wider range than you seem to think.
And Christians that choose to accept the particular anti-homesexual passages
as relevant while not killing every child that strikes a parent are lying
hypocites.
But even that is irrelevant. Even if the Hairy Thunderer did exist, and the
Bible were his personal etch-a-sketch, that has nothing to do with what
should be public policy.
(alt.politics.democrats):
>
> One can't believe that the Bible is the word of Jehovah God and at
> the same time support the homosexual lifestyle.
that for believers in the Cosmic Muffin the meaning of "The Bible is word of
[incorrect Germanization of the name of the name of the god of the Jews
deleted] God" has a wider range than you seem to think.
And Christians that choose to accept the particular anti-homesexual passages
as relevant while not killing every child that strikes a parent are lying
hypocites.
But even that is irrelevant. Even if the Hairy Thunderer did exist, and the
Bible were his personal etch-a-sketch, that has nothing to do with what
should be public policy.
Martin Ambuhl
May 16, 2012, 3:41:34 AM5/16/12
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Chine Bleu, Russie Blanche, et Khmer Rouge wrote on Monday, May 14, 2012
08:59 PM (alt.politics.democrats):
> In article
> <f9c2b46a-70e5-4d9b...@w13g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
The fact that did not tell us where those places might be suggests that you
know the truth: there are no such places.
08:59 PM (alt.politics.democrats):
> In article
> <f9c2b46a-70e5-4d9b...@w13g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
> Ramon F Herrera <gopo...@jonjay.com> wrote:
>> There is a lot of homosexual activities going on in the Bible. Owning
>> of slaves, too.
>
> There's all places where Jesus condemns it.
>> There is a lot of homosexual activities going on in the Bible. Owning
>> of slaves, too.
>
The fact that did not tell us where those places might be suggests that you
know the truth: there are no such places.
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Ramon F. Herrera
May 23, 2012, 7:28:49 PM5/23/12
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On May 9, 6:54 pm, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
> New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>
> "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
> their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
> are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
> population and other Christians."
>
Powell favors same-sex marriage
> New Poll Shows Strong Catholic Support for Gay Rights
>
> "It’s a popular stereotype that Catholics are more conservative than
> their Protestant counterparts, but a new report reveals that Catholics
> are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general
> population and other Christians."
>
Posted by
CNN's Gregory Wallace
"(CNN) - Gen. Colin Powell said Wednesday on CNN's "The Situation
Room" that he supports legal same-sex marriage, either at the state or
federal level.
"I have no problem with it," he said in the interview, which will air
at 5 p.m. ET. "In terms of the legal matter of creating a contract
between two people that's called marriage, and allowing them to [...]
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/23/powell-favors-same-sex-marriage/
-Ramon
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