ISRAEL..... IS AN APARTHEID STATE
Pathfinder
South Africa...indeed in many ways they are much better then South
Africa..and in many ways they are worse. But here are concrete examples of
why Israel is indeed NOT a "western style democracy"..but is in all
actuality an institutionaly racist "jewish democracy".
1. Israel has not built one new Arab village or town in 60 years. They
have built hundreds of Jewish towns and villages.
2. Israel gives its Jewish students on average 50% more in educational
funds then Arab students.
3. Israel bars political parties that call Israel "a state of its
citizens"..but allows parties Jewish parties that openly advocate the
expulsion of its Arab citizens. This is the ultimate in double standards.
4. Israel gives all sorts of benefits and privelages to Jews who come to
Israel by aliyah. All non-Jewish Israelis...even if their families have
been in Israel for 5 generations..are clearly not eligible for these
benefits.
5. Israel has not annexed the West Bank. This means it is illegal for
Israel to build anything in the West Bank..until they at the very least
annex the land. Their annexation will most likely still not be recognized
by the world...but atleast their building in the West Bank will be legal
under Israeli law.
Meanwhile, Israel builds towns, schools, roads, and confiscates land as if
the land was annexed. But they also bar Palestinians the right to vote or
Israeli citzenship. So they apply rules of non-annexation when it comes to
Arab civil rights...but DO apply the rules of annexation when it come to
land confiscation and building for Jews. If this is not totally racist and
illegal..I dont know what is.
......Many people will say.."Arabs have it much better in Israel then in
other Arab lands" and "Arabs are treated far better in Israel then Jews are
treated in Arab states". This is all true. But the difference is that the
Arab states dont claim to be "the only western style democracy" in the
Middle east. The Arab states dont claim to share "common values" with the
West. The Arab states dont demand that the world recognize and remember
their suffering as victims of prejudice and hated.
Israel, on the other hand, does all these things.
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dsha...@hotmail.com
> Israel is indeed an Apartheid state. their situation is not exactly like
> South Africa...
Bullshit.
"The Israeli regime is not apartheid. It is a unique case of
democracy."
- South African Interior Minister Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi
MYTH
Israel's treatment of Palestinians is similar to the treatment of
blacks in apartheid South Africa.
FACT
Even before the State of Israel was established, Jewish leaders
consciously sought to avoid the situation that prevailed in South
Africa. As David Ben-Gurion told Palestinian nationalist Musa Alami in
1934:
We do not want to create a situation like that which exists in
South Africa, where the whites are the owners and rulers, and the
blacks are the workers. If we do not do all kinds of work, easy and
hard, skilled and unskilled, if we become merely landlords, then this
will not be our homeland.6
Today, within Israel, Jews are a majority, but the Arab minority are
full citizens who enjoy equal rights. Arabs are represented in the
Knesset, and have served in the Cabinet, high-level foreign ministry
posts (e.g., Ambassador to Finland) and on the Supreme Court. Under
apartheid, black South Africans could not vote and were not citizens of
the country in which they formed the overwhelming majority of the
population. Laws dictated where they could live, work and travel. And,
in South Africa, the government killed blacks who protested against its
policies. By contrast, Israel allows freedom of movement, assembly and
speech. Some of the government's harshest critics are Israeli Arabs who
are members of the Knesset.
The situation of Palestinians in the territories is different. The
security requirements of the nation, and a violent insurrection in the
territories, forced Israel to impose restrictions on Arab residents of
the West Bank and Gaza Strip that are not necessary inside Israel's
pre-1967 borders. The Palestinians in the territories, typically,
dispute Israel's right to exist whereas blacks did not seek the
destruction of South Africa, only the apartheid regime.
If Israel were to give Palestinians full citizenship, it would mean the
territories had been annexed. No Israeli government has been prepared
to take that step. Instead, through negotiations, Israel agreed to give
the Palestinians increasing authority over their own affairs. It is
likely that a final settlement will allow most Palestinians to become
citizens of their own state. The principal impediment to Palestinian
independence is not Israeli policy, it is the unwillingness of the
Palestinian leadership to give up terrorism and agree to live in peace
beside the State of Israel.
Despite all their criticism, when asked what governments they admire
most, more than 80 percent of Palestinians consistently choose Israel
because they can see up close the thriving democracy in Israel, and the
rights the Arab citizens enjoy there. By contrast, Palstinians place
Arab regimes far down the list, and their own Palestinian Authority at
the bottom with only 20 percent saying they admire the corrupt Arafat
regime in 2003.6a
"There is still one other question arising out of the disaster of
nations which remains unsolved to this day, and whose profound tragedy,
only a Jew can comprehend. This is the African question. Just call to
mind all those terrible episodes of the slave trade, of human beings
who, merely because they were black, were stolen like cattle, taken
prisoner, captured and sold. Their children grew up in strange lands,
the objects of contempt and hostility because their complexions were
different. I am not ashamed to say, though I may expose myself to
ridicule for saying so, that once I have witnessed the redemption of
the Jews, my people, I wish also to assist in the redemption of the
Africans." Theodor Herzl
- http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf18.html#i
In South Africa.....
In 1930, the Quota Act was passed curtailing immigration; the
quota excluded Jews from Germany and, by 1936, another 6,000 Jews
fleeing Nazi Germany came to South Africa. The new German immigrants
were integral in starting the Reform movement in South Africa, which
was formally instituted by an American-born rabbi in 1933.
In South Africa.....
Nazism began influencing militant and nationalistic Afrikaners,
who began forming anti-Semitic organizations. Another anti-immigration
law, The Aliens Act, was passed in 1937, further closing the doors to
Jewish immigration. Further fear developed after the anti-Jewish
National Party came to power in 1948.
Apartheid Regime
With the institutionalization of apartheid agenda, anti-Semitism was no
longer a major issue. Many Jewish South Africans, both individuals and
organizations, helped support the anti-apartheid movement. Most Jews,
in fact, had actually voted against the apartheid National Party,
casting their votes for either the Progressive Party or the United
Party. One organization, the Union of Jewish Women, sought to alleviate
the suffering of blacks through charitable projects and self-help
schemes. An example of individual Jewish involvement in the
anti-apartheid movement is the arrest of 17 members of the African
National Congress, in 1963, for anti-apartheid activities. The five
whites who were arrested were Jewish.
One of the great leaders of the anti-Apartheid movement, Nelson
Mandela, wrote this about Jews in South Africa: "I have found Jews to
be more broadminded than most whites on issues of race and politics,
perhaps because they themselves have historically been victims of
prejudice."
Jewish university students, in particular, vehemently opposed the
apartheid movement. Jews, in fact, were largely represented in the
percentage of white citizens who were arrested for anti-apartheid
protests. A large proportion of Jews were also involved in
organizations such as The Springbrook Legion, The Torch Commando, and
the Black Sash. These anti-apartheid organizations led protests that
were both active (ie. marching through the streets with torches) and
passive (ie. standing silently in black). Other Jews sought to teach,
train, and include black citizens in South African society. Ian
Bernhardt lived in Johannesburg and led the Union of South African
Artists in which he helped teach and protect black artists. Jews could
be found in the majority of anti-apartheid organizations and protests
throughout the apartheid regime.
Israel maintained diplomatic relations with South Africa throughout the
period, as did most Arab countries, Taiwan, Belgium, and Britain.
Despite the arms embargo, these countries sold arms to the South Africa
during the apartheid era and there have also been reports of nuclear
cooperation. Various Israeli leaders publicly condemned the apartheid
system. During the early 1960's, Israel aligned with other African
countries against the apartheid system, straining its relationship with
South Africa. After the Six-Day War in 1967, most African countries
broke diplomatic ties with Israel, except for South Africa, and this
led to increased relations between the two.
Violence in South Africa during the 1970's led to an exodus of many
white citizens, including Jews, who were fearful of their future in the
country. Many children were sent to live and study abroad and remained
in their host countries.
Two Jewish organizations were formed in 1985: Jews for Justice (in Cape
Town) and Jews for Social Justice (in Johannesburg) tried to reform
South African society and build bridges between the white and black
communities. Also in 1985, the South African Jewish Board passed a
resolution rejecting apartheid.
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/South_Africa.html#Apartheid%20Regime
> ......Many people will say.."Arabs have it much better in Israel then in
> other Arab lands" and "Arabs are treated far better in Israel then Jews are
> treated in Arab states". This is all true.
They have it far better than Jews in Arab lands, so STFU.
Deborah
fla...@verizon.net
> Pathfinder wrote:
> > Israel is indeed an Apartheid state. their situation is not exactly
> > like
> > South Africa...
>
> Bullshit.
>
> "The Israeli regime is not apartheid. It is a unique case of
> democracy."
> - South African Interior Minister Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi
This should be the clincher, and would be, if the subject
were any other country but Israel.
Susan
Ben Cramer
<dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147114376.9...@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Pathfinder wrote:
>> Israel is indeed an Apartheid state. their situation is not exactly like
>> South Africa...
>
> Bullshit.
Not bullshit at all. Go there and see how they handle Palestinians, Arabs
and schvartzes.
Ben Cramer
<fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:MaU7g.3015$OF6.269@trnddc06...
>
> On 8-May-2006, "dsha...@hotmail.com" <dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Pathfinder wrote:
>> > Israel is indeed an Apartheid state. their situation is not exactly
>> > like
>> > South Africa...
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
>> "The Israeli regime is not apartheid. It is a unique case of
>> democracy."
>> - South African Interior Minister Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi
>
> This should be the clincher, and would be, if the subject
> were any other country but Israel.
You wouldn't get on very well in izzieland, you thick Irish cunt. They don't
like converts. They spit on 'em, in fact.