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Jigaboo Rice
Aug 2, 2012, 11:36:42 AM8/2/12
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Jeanne Douglas <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>In article
><Jason-01081...@66-53-220-234.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> In article <XnsA0A24BD41B937...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>> So if you are sick it is because god wants you to be sick.
>>> And you still worship him?
>> for the last nine years and still have not developed kidney failure. That
>> is the reason that I believe God is helping me. If I do develop kidney
>> failure--I don't believe that I will be getting dialysis. I had a neighbor
>> that was getting dialysis for over 8 years and it caused him on sorts of
>> pain and he ended up dying due to a major heart attack. He was totally
>Real nice of you to insult your doctors like this. It's a good thing
>they truly are good people, to continue to treat people who disrespect
>them like this.
Medical doctors get this every day of their professional lives. :( It
isn't an insult after the first dozen times, doctors get used to the
abject stupidity and ingratitude of the people they help.
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Jigaboo Rice, because white rice is unhealthy!
>In article
><Jason-01081...@66-53-220-234.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> In article <XnsA0A24BD41B937...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>>> So if you are sick it is because god wants you to be sick.
>>> And you still worship him?
>> for the last nine years and still have not developed kidney failure. That
>> is the reason that I believe God is helping me. If I do develop kidney
>> failure--I don't believe that I will be getting dialysis. I had a neighbor
>> that was getting dialysis for over 8 years and it caused him on sorts of
>> pain and he ended up dying due to a major heart attack. He was totally
>Real nice of you to insult your doctors like this. It's a good thing
>they truly are good people, to continue to treat people who disrespect
>them like this.
Medical doctors get this every day of their professional lives. :( It
isn't an insult after the first dozen times, doctors get used to the
abject stupidity and ingratitude of the people they help.
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Jigaboo Rice, because white rice is unhealthy!
Jigaboo Rice
Aug 3, 2012, 3:52:22 PM8/3/12
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Jeanne Douglas <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>In article <501B39E3...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burn...@osu.edu>
>> I am thinking of the various prosperity gospels preached
>> by Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, amongst others. If you
>> can twist "Go and give all you have to the poor" into
>> "God wants you to be rich; keep what you have and do
>> whatever it takes to get more." then you can twist anything
>> into anything else.
>Well, suicide is absolutely forbidden.
That's not true. Christanic cultists are ordered to drink poison and
very few of them ever do. They are specifically ordered in the Christanic
mythologies to commit suicide.
No offense intended, I'm quite sure.
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Jigaboo Rice, because black rice is good for ya!
>In article <501B39E3...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burn...@osu.edu>
>> I am thinking of the various prosperity gospels preached
>> by Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, amongst others. If you
>> can twist "Go and give all you have to the poor" into
>> "God wants you to be rich; keep what you have and do
>> whatever it takes to get more." then you can twist anything
>> into anything else.
>Well, suicide is absolutely forbidden.
That's not true. Christanic cultists are ordered to drink poison and
very few of them ever do. They are specifically ordered in the Christanic
mythologies to commit suicide.
No offense intended, I'm quite sure.
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Jigaboo Rice, because black rice is good for ya!
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
Aug 3, 2012, 3:54:29 PM8/3/12
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On Aug 3, 12:52 pm, k.chelsea...@yahoo.com (Jigaboo Rice) wrote:
> Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> >In article <501B39E3.7030...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burns...@osu.edu>
> Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> >In article <501B39E3.7030...@osu.edu>, Jim Burns <burns...@osu.edu>
> >> I am thinking of the various prosperity gospels preached
> >> by Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, amongst others. If you
> >> can twist "Go and give all you have to the poor" into
> >> "God wants you to be rich; keep what you have and do
> >> whatever it takes to get more." then you can twist anything
> >> into anything else.
> >Well, suicide is absolutely forbidden.
>
> That's not true. Christanic cultists are ordered to drink poison and
> very few of them ever do. They are specifically ordered in the Christanic
> mythologies to commit suicide.
>
> No offense intended, I'm quite sure.
> ---
> Jigaboo Rice, because black rice is good for ya!
http://www.justice.gov/crt/spec_topics/religiousdiscrimination/
> >> by Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker, amongst others. If you
> >> can twist "Go and give all you have to the poor" into
> >> "God wants you to be rich; keep what you have and do
> >> whatever it takes to get more." then you can twist anything
> >> into anything else.
> >Well, suicide is absolutely forbidden.
>
> That's not true. Christanic cultists are ordered to drink poison and
> very few of them ever do. They are specifically ordered in the Christanic
> mythologies to commit suicide.
>
> No offense intended, I'm quite sure.
> ---
> Jigaboo Rice, because black rice is good for ya!
2Smart 2Vote
Aug 5, 2012, 8:20:49 PM8/5/12
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Smiler <Youm...@JoeKing.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:35:02 -0700, tirebiter wrote:
>>> Abraham should not have done it but it was an effort to save his life.
>>> Back in those days--it was common for kings to order his soldiers to
>>> kill the husbands of men that had beautiful wives in order to make
>>> their wives into members of his harem.
><PIGGYBACKING>
>"Husbands of men" puts paid to the claim of 'Traditionl Marriage is
>between a man and a woman'.
The Parable of Kings of the Hebrewic word was certainly not employing the
term in the sence that men are married to men, it is being used in the
sense that "Animal husbandry" is employed in contemporary times.
Yes, an argument could be said that given Republican Christian proclivities
towards non-human animals it could mean the same thing, but it's not.
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Voting for a "President" is a religious act, the act of a fool
>On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:35:02 -0700, tirebiter wrote:
>>> Abraham should not have done it but it was an effort to save his life.
>>> Back in those days--it was common for kings to order his soldiers to
>>> kill the husbands of men that had beautiful wives in order to make
>>> their wives into members of his harem.
><PIGGYBACKING>
>"Husbands of men" puts paid to the claim of 'Traditionl Marriage is
>between a man and a woman'.
The Parable of Kings of the Hebrewic word was certainly not employing the
term in the sence that men are married to men, it is being used in the
sense that "Animal husbandry" is employed in contemporary times.
Yes, an argument could be said that given Republican Christian proclivities
towards non-human animals it could mean the same thing, but it's not.
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Voting for a "President" is a religious act, the act of a fool
tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu
Aug 6, 2012, 9:38:37 AM8/6/12
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k.chel...@yahoo.com (2Smart 2Vote) writes:
3> Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.politics.democrats,talk.politics.guns,alt.religion.christian,comp.os.os2.advocacy
3> The Parable of Kings of the Hebrewic word was certainly not
employing the
3> term in the sence that men are married to men, it is being used in
the
3> sense that "Animal husbandry" is employed in contemporary times.
3> Yes, an argument could be said that given Republican Christian
proclivities
3> towards non-human animals it could mean the same thing, but it's
not.
What does your interpretation of the Parable of Kings have to do
with OS/2, chelsea?
3> Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.politics.democrats,talk.politics.guns,alt.religion.christian,comp.os.os2.advocacy
3> The Parable of Kings of the Hebrewic word was certainly not
employing the
3> term in the sence that men are married to men, it is being used in
the
3> sense that "Animal husbandry" is employed in contemporary times.
3> Yes, an argument could be said that given Republican Christian
proclivities
3> towards non-human animals it could mean the same thing, but it's
not.
What does your interpretation of the Parable of Kings have to do
with OS/2, chelsea?
max headroom
Aug 6, 2012, 10:34:33 AM8/6/12
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tho...@antispam.ham <tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu> wrote in
news:8c40b18a-6bcb-4837...@sn4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
Or gun politics?
news:8c40b18a-6bcb-4837...@sn4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
tho...@ifa.hawaii.edu
Aug 8, 2012, 9:38:29 PM8/8/12
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"max headroom" <maxhe...@localnet.com> writes:
1> Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.religion.christian,comp.os.os2.advocacy
1> Or gun politics?
What does your question have to do with OS/2, headroom?
1> Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.religion.christian,comp.os.os2.advocacy
1> Or gun politics?
What does your question have to do with OS/2, headroom?
Jalapeno Peppers
Aug 10, 2012, 9:12:59 PM8/10/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>In article <pan.2012.08.10....@JoeKing.com>, Smiler
><Youm...@JoeKing.com> wrote:
>> I won't stop hassling you until you answer that question.
>If you accept Jesus as your savior--you will end up in heaven when you die.
Utter lunacy. Here we are, humanity landing mobile labs on other planets,
and we *still* have a populas saddled with the fucking insane holding us
back, dragging us down, stopping us from making equal scientific strides
in the arena of medicines, longevity, cybernetics.
While atheists provide life styles of lesiure and survivability and comfort
far beyond anything seen even 50 years ago, the fucking cultists among us
do everything they can to keep the stupid and the gullible and the ignorant
enslaved, and the rest of us have to suffer as well.
Amazing.
>In article <pan.2012.08.10....@JoeKing.com>, Smiler
><Youm...@JoeKing.com> wrote:
>> I won't stop hassling you until you answer that question.
>If you accept Jesus as your savior--you will end up in heaven when you die.
Utter lunacy. Here we are, humanity landing mobile labs on other planets,
and we *still* have a populas saddled with the fucking insane holding us
back, dragging us down, stopping us from making equal scientific strides
in the arena of medicines, longevity, cybernetics.
While atheists provide life styles of lesiure and survivability and comfort
far beyond anything seen even 50 years ago, the fucking cultists among us
do everything they can to keep the stupid and the gullible and the ignorant
enslaved, and the rest of us have to suffer as well.
Amazing.
Armchair Mountaineering
Aug 14, 2012, 7:42:37 PM8/14/12
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duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> decision is up to God.
>> Most all Jews will eventually figure out that Jesus is their Messiah. At
>> that point, they will all become Hebrew Christians (also known as Jews for
>> Jesus. I have met some Jews for Jesus.
>In most religions, gods are supposed to be the source of all morality.
No, only in the majority top 3 religions -- and some others. Most
religions have gods and goddesses that have traits that regulate
natural phenomena and have nothing to do with human morals.
The Islamic and Christanic cultists' gods in that respects are in
the minority.
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Voting: A religious delusion that cultists and atheists agree on
>Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>> decision is up to God.
>> Most all Jews will eventually figure out that Jesus is their Messiah. At
>> that point, they will all become Hebrew Christians (also known as Jews for
>> Jesus. I have met some Jews for Jesus.
>In most religions, gods are supposed to be the source of all morality.
No, only in the majority top 3 religions -- and some others. Most
religions have gods and goddesses that have traits that regulate
natural phenomena and have nothing to do with human morals.
The Islamic and Christanic cultists' gods in that respects are in
the minority.
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Voting: A religious delusion that cultists and atheists agree on
Armchair Mountaineering
Aug 14, 2012, 7:43:53 PM8/14/12
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Calvin Ramsey <calvin...@live.com> wrote:
>On 8/14/2012 3:38 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> To the rational, ALL religions are cults because they brainwash their adherents.
>Don't just say it and expect anyone to believe you.
>Let's see you *prove* it. Then everyone will believe you.
There's nothing to prove, you insane cultists *do* all look alike
to your intellectual and moral superiors. You cultists are all frothingly
insane cult savages.
>On 8/14/2012 3:38 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>> To the rational, ALL religions are cults because they brainwash their adherents.
>Don't just say it and expect anyone to believe you.
>Let's see you *prove* it. Then everyone will believe you.
There's nothing to prove, you insane cultists *do* all look alike
to your intellectual and moral superiors. You cultists are all frothingly
insane cult savages.
Armchair Mountaineering
Aug 14, 2012, 7:44:32 PM8/14/12
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Mike Lovell <dev....@b0h0.com> wrote:
>On 2012-08-14, Calvin Ramsey <calvin...@live.com> wrote:
>>> To the rational, ALL religions are cults because they brainwash their
>>> adherents.
>> Don't just say it and expect anyone to believe you.
>> Let's see you *prove* it. Then everyone will believe you.
>Oh you follow the proof now? So you no longer believe in God. Great,
>welcome to reality.
I wonder if the cultist realizes that you just gutted him.
>On 2012-08-14, Calvin Ramsey <calvin...@live.com> wrote:
>>> To the rational, ALL religions are cults because they brainwash their
>>> adherents.
>> Don't just say it and expect anyone to believe you.
>> Let's see you *prove* it. Then everyone will believe you.
>welcome to reality.
I wonder if the cultist realizes that you just gutted him.
Jason
Aug 15, 2012, 2:52:28 AM8/15/12
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In article <7_udna-ZJu7sf7fN...@posted.sonicnet>,
There is only one true God and Christians and Jews worship the one true God.
The God that Muslims worship is a famous sun god named Allah.
The original name of Allah was Al-ilah or al ilah.
The God that Muslims worship is a famous sun god named Allah.
The original name of Allah was Al-ilah or al ilah.
tirebiter
Aug 15, 2012, 9:59:13 AM8/15/12
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On Aug 15, 2:52 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <7_udna-ZJu7sf7fNnZ2dnUVZ_u6dn...@posted.sonicnet>,
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mind won't approve of that.
The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
that.
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> In article <7_udna-ZJu7sf7fNnZ2dnUVZ_u6dn...@posted.sonicnet>,
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> to...@armchairmountaineering.com wrote:
> > duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >> decision is up to God.
> > >> Most all Jews will eventually figure out that Jesus is their Messiah. At
> > >> that point, they will all become Hebrew Christians (also known as Jews for
> > >> Jesus. I have met some Jews for Jesus.
> > >In most religions, gods are supposed to be the source of all morality.
>
> > No, only in the majority top 3 religions -- and some others. Most
> > religions have gods and goddesses that have traits that regulate
> > natural phenomena and have nothing to do with human morals.
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> > The Islamic and Christanic cultists' gods in that respects are in
> > the minority.
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> > ---
> > Voting: A religious delusion that cultists and atheists agree on
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> There is only one true God and Christians and Jews worship the one true God.
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> The God that Muslims worship is a famous sun god named Allah.
> The original name of Allah was Al-ilah or al ilah.
Lying again, Jason? Even the imaginary god that only exists in your
> > >Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >> decision is up to God.
> > >> Most all Jews will eventually figure out that Jesus is their Messiah. At
> > >> that point, they will all become Hebrew Christians (also known as Jews for
> > >> Jesus. I have met some Jews for Jesus.
> > >In most religions, gods are supposed to be the source of all morality.
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> > No, only in the majority top 3 religions -- and some others. Most
> > religions have gods and goddesses that have traits that regulate
> > natural phenomena and have nothing to do with human morals.
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> > The Islamic and Christanic cultists' gods in that respects are in
> > the minority.
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> > ---
> > Voting: A religious delusion that cultists and atheists agree on
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> There is only one true God and Christians and Jews worship the one true God.
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> The God that Muslims worship is a famous sun god named Allah.
> The original name of Allah was Al-ilah or al ilah.
mind won't approve of that.
The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
that.
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SaPeIsMa
Aug 15, 2012, 10:28:16 AM8/15/12
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"tirebiter" <dontsp...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
> that.
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LOL
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> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
> that.
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Keep trying
tirebiter
Aug 15, 2012, 10:39:00 AM8/15/12
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On Aug 15, 10:28 am, "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
Yeah, "true" christians hate the truth. Good thing it's all just
endorphin fueled fantasy.
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> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
endorphin fueled fantasy.
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SaPeIsMa
Aug 15, 2012, 1:50:27 PM8/15/12
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Ah
So not able to support the message, you attack the messenger
Thanks for the proof that your claim has no legs.
So not able to support the message, you attack the messenger
Thanks for the proof that your claim has no legs.
tirebiter
Aug 15, 2012, 4:03:59 PM8/15/12
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On Aug 15, 1:50 pm, "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> >> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> >> > The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
> >> > that.
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> >> LOL
> >> Keep trying
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> > Yeah, "true" christians hate the truth. Good thing it's all just
> > endorphin fueled fantasy.
>
> Ah
> So not able to support the message, you attack the messenger
> Thanks for the proof that your claim has no legs.
Too funny. That wasn't anything close to "attacking the messenger".
> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> >> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> >> > The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
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> >> Keep trying
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> > Yeah, "true" christians hate the truth. Good thing it's all just
> > endorphin fueled fantasy.
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> Ah
> So not able to support the message, you attack the messenger
> Thanks for the proof that your claim has no legs.
And any objective review of islam shows that they worship the same
abrahamic god that the jews and christians do.
And it's 100% true. So-called "true" christians hate that fact.
And it's 100% true that the whole thing is an electro-chemical induced
fantasy.
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SaPeIsMa
Aug 15, 2012, 5:56:43 PM8/15/12
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You wouldn't "know" a true Christian if you were in a church full of them
tirebiter
Aug 15, 2012, 6:57:51 PM8/15/12
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difference. And I'm guessing you are in the second category.
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SaPeIsMa
Aug 15, 2012, 8:09:40 PM8/15/12
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Then once again, you have guessed wrong
Next time give me a chance to bet on your guess, so I can make some money
off you
Next time give me a chance to bet on your guess, so I can make some money
off you
Mike Painter
Aug 15, 2012, 8:38:54 PM8/15/12
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On 8/15/2012 1:03 PM, tirebiter wrote:
> Too funny. That wasn't anything close to "attacking the messenger".
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> And any objective review of islam shows that they worship the same
> abrahamic god that the jews and christians do.
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> And it's 100% true. So-called "true" christians hate that fact.
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> And it's 100% true that the whole thing is an electro-chemical induced
> fantasy.
Actually both Muslim and Jew deny they believe in the most common forms
> Too funny. That wasn't anything close to "attacking the messenger".
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> And any objective review of islam shows that they worship the same
> abrahamic god that the jews and christians do.
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> And it's 100% true. So-called "true" christians hate that fact.
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> And it's 100% true that the whole thing is an electro-chemical induced
> fantasy.
of the Christian god(s). They deny the trinity ion all forms; only those
christian sects that deny the divinity of Christ are close to a ONE true
god.
tirebiter
Aug 15, 2012, 9:29:15 PM8/15/12
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christians will be worthy of heaven. But don't fret it. I have
rarely met one who honestly did not do that. Most deny it, but they
also beleive it's OK to lie for god.
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tirebiter
Aug 15, 2012, 9:54:32 PM8/15/12
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is a much different monster than the NT god.
It is the core version of the jewish, christian and islamic god. Only
none of the religions admit that the other two believe it. And even
internally, all 3 religions deny that most of its members believe in
this god "the right way". SaPeIsMa is a fine example of that.
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SaPeIsMa
Aug 15, 2012, 10:11:00 PM8/15/12
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Nothing like a presumptuous idiot who imagines that his presumptions are
right
And just because YOU are a liar, does not mean everyone else is
That's just your weak attempt to salve what little conscience you have
As I said, whenever you are going to guess or presume, give me a chance to
bet against you.
I'll make a killing.
right
And just because YOU are a liar, does not mean everyone else is
That's just your weak attempt to salve what little conscience you have
As I said, whenever you are going to guess or presume, give me a chance to
bet against you.
I'll make a killing.
tirebiter
Aug 15, 2012, 10:24:07 PM8/15/12
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Mitchell Holman
Aug 15, 2012, 10:45:11 PM8/15/12
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"SaPeIsMa" <Sape...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
Case in point, every religionist who shows up at
your door telling you that HIS religion is the "right"
one and your beliefs to the contrary are all wrong.
news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
your door telling you that HIS religion is the "right"
one and your beliefs to the contrary are all wrong.
Olrik
Aug 16, 2012, 12:57:05 AM8/16/12
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Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a �crit :
Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same �god�.
That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
first place.
That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
first place.
Olrik
Aug 16, 2012, 12:59:42 AM8/16/12
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Le 2012-08-15 17:56, SaPeIsMa a �crit :
Would you be able to "know" a true jew if you were in a synagogue full
of them?
Would you be able to "know" a true muslim if you were in a mosque full
of them?
of them?
Would you be able to "know" a true muslim if you were in a mosque full
of them?
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 2:40:36 AM8/16/12
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In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
The Christian is 100% correct. The non-Christians are all wrong.
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 2:42:44 AM8/16/12
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In article <k0hupa$383$3...@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I would know--because I would ask each of them the name of their religion.
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 2:45:58 AM8/16/12
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In article <502C7DA1...@yahoo.com>, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
sun god was named Al iah.
is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
sun god was named Al iah.
Mike Lovell
Aug 16, 2012, 2:40:32 AM8/16/12
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>> Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same «god».
>>
>> That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
>> first place.
>
> The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
> is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> sun god was named Al iah.
Muslims and Jews worship the same God as you.
You all have different "covenants". Ironically you all hate each other,
I guess that shows what a loving God you have!
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>> Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same «god».
>>
>> That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
>> first place.
>
> The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
> is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> sun god was named Al iah.
You all have different "covenants". Ironically you all hate each other,
I guess that shows what a loving God you have!
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Aug 16, 2012, 3:15:55 AM8/16/12
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In article <slrnk2p5f0....@usenet.home.b0h0.com>, Mike Lovell
www.bible.ca/islam/islam-moon-god.htm
Hubal and Allah the Moon God?
Islam: Truth or Myth? start page
Introduction to basic facts of history:
1. Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The
crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far
back as 2000 BC.
2. In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
3. This Hubal was a moon god.
4. One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was
placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may
in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret
at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque
throughout the world:
About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr
bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol
called Hubal on the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of
the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar
(Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim)
5. The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper
name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god".
Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan
god as "al-ilah".
6. "al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began
promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
7. There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
8. When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name
"Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
9. Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the
Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
10. Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is
derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
11. Although Islam is today a monotheist religion, its roots are in paganism.
Hubal the moon god of the Kabah
Allah the moon god of the Kabah
Remnants of pagan Moon god worship in the Koran
Pre-Islamic Origin of the word Allah
Photogallery of the ancient history of Moon god worship
Modern usage of moon god symbols in Islam today.
Hubal and Allah the Moon God?
Islam: Truth or Myth? start page
Introduction to basic facts of history:
1. Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The
crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far
back as 2000 BC.
2. In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
3. This Hubal was a moon god.
4. One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was
placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad. This may
in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret
at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque
throughout the world:
About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr
bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol
called Hubal on the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of
the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar
(Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim)
5. The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper
name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god".
Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan
god as "al-ilah".
6. "al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began
promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
7. There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
8. When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name
"Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
9. Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the
Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
10. Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is
derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
11. Although Islam is today a monotheist religion, its roots are in paganism.
Hubal the moon god of the Kabah
Allah the moon god of the Kabah
Remnants of pagan Moon god worship in the Koran
Pre-Islamic Origin of the word Allah
Photogallery of the ancient history of Moon god worship
Modern usage of moon god symbols in Islam today.
Devils Advocaat
Aug 16, 2012, 3:09:04 AM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 7:45 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
acknowledge that Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same god.
> In article <502C7DA1.4010...@yahoo.com>, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a écrit :
>
> > > "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a écrit :
>
> > >news:c868e545-5541-4024...@z21g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
> > >> that.
>
> > > LOL
> > > Keep trying
>
> > Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same «god».
>
> > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > first place.
>
> The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
> is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> sun god was named Al iah.
Where did you get this nonsense from? The majority of theologians
>
> > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
> > >> that.
>
> > > LOL
> > > Keep trying
>
> > Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same «god».
>
> > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > first place.
>
> The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
> is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> sun god was named Al iah.
acknowledge that Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same god.
Yap
Aug 16, 2012, 3:19:45 AM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 2:40 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
>
So, the Swede crazy butchering young people was correct?
You are really a nut.
> In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
>
You are really a nut.
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 3:33:46 AM8/16/12
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In article
<8a360c73-f1ad-40a4...@p14g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 7:45=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <502C7DA1.4010...@yahoo.com>, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote=
> :
> > > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a =E9crit :
> > > >news:c868e545-5541-4024...@z21g2000yqf.googlegroups.com=
> ...
> >
> > > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. =A0Che=
church supports--that now lives in Israel--first told our church members
about it. She is a missionary to Jews and Muslims that live in Israel. She
comes back to America once a year to preach at various churches that
support her.
<8a360c73-f1ad-40a4...@p14g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Devils Advocaat <manky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 7:45=A0am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <502C7DA1.4010...@yahoo.com>, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote=
> :
> > > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a =E9crit :
> > > >news:c868e545-5541-4024...@z21g2000yqf.googlegroups.com=
> ...
> >
> > > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. =A0Che=
> w on
> > > >> that.
> >
> > > > LOL
> > > > Keep trying
> >
> > > Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same =ABgod=BB.
> > > >> that.
> >
> > > > LOL
> > > > Keep trying
> >
> >
> > > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > > first place.
> >
> > The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun go=
> > > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > > first place.
> >
> d
> > is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> > century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> > sun god was named Al iah.
>
> Where did you get this nonsense from? The majority of theologians
> acknowledge that Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same god.
From various websites like this one. A Christian missionary that our
> > is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> > century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> > sun god was named Al iah.
>
> Where did you get this nonsense from? The majority of theologians
> acknowledge that Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same god.
church supports--that now lives in Israel--first told our church members
about it. She is a missionary to Jews and Muslims that live in Israel. She
comes back to America once a year to preach at various churches that
support her.
Yap
Aug 16, 2012, 3:29:44 AM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 2:45 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
Muhammad was a figure in the bible and Muslim established a sect
deviant of Christianity.
Both Islam and Christianity derived their fantasy from a common source
of fairy tales, Jewish in origin.
The Germans had suffered sufficiently from Jewish economical
domination which started WWll, and Americans now has been more in the
same boat.
Why do you need to be wrapped in the Jewish con religion as well?
The current Israelis are not buying any bullshits in the Christianity
and are promoting Judaism but you guys seem to be proud in stealing
the biblical religion from them?
> In article <502C7DA1.4010...@yahoo.com>, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a écrit :
>
> > > "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a écrit :
>
> > >news:c868e545-5541-4024...@z21g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
> > >> that.
>
> > > LOL
> > > Keep trying
>
> > Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same «god».
>
> > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > first place.
>
> The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
> is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> sun god was named Al iah.
This is not true !!!!!!!!!
>
> > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
> > >> that.
>
> > > LOL
> > > Keep trying
>
> > Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same «god».
>
> > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > first place.
>
> The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
> is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> sun god was named Al iah.
Muhammad was a figure in the bible and Muslim established a sect
deviant of Christianity.
Both Islam and Christianity derived their fantasy from a common source
of fairy tales, Jewish in origin.
The Germans had suffered sufficiently from Jewish economical
domination which started WWll, and Americans now has been more in the
same boat.
Why do you need to be wrapped in the Jewish con religion as well?
The current Israelis are not buying any bullshits in the Christianity
and are promoting Judaism but you guys seem to be proud in stealing
the biblical religion from them?
Alex W.
Aug 16, 2012, 5:54:30 AM8/16/12
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about it.
As in:
"What is the name of your country?"
"The Democratic People's Republic of Korea."
"Great! Your name tells me that you must be a democratic country
with a republican form of organisation, just like the United
States!"
Alex W.
Aug 16, 2012, 6:32:43 AM8/16/12
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believe it"? AFAIK, the mainstream of all three freely admit
that they share a god. The Jews have the original, the
Christians have version 2.0 with added messiah, and the Muslims
have the version without messiah but two add-on prophets.
Alex W.
Aug 16, 2012, 6:50:51 AM8/16/12
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for all you're worth -- that's all this site is, and no more.
It is exactly the same tactic your mediaeval forebears employed
when they spread the myth that the Jews murder Christian children
to use their blood in secret rituals.
Mitchell Holman
Aug 16, 2012, 7:51:04 AM8/16/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-15081...@66-53-210-10.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878...@216.196.121.131>,
> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "SaPeIsMa" <Sape...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>> >
The Baptist? The Mormon? The Jehovahs Witness?
news:Jason-15081...@66-53-210-10.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878...@216.196.121.131>,
> Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "SaPeIsMa" <Sape...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
>>
>> >
>> > Nothing like a presumptuous idiot who imagines that his
>> > presumptions are right
>>
>>
>> Case in point, every religionist who shows up at
>> your door telling you that HIS religion is the "right"
>> one and your beliefs to the contrary are all wrong.
>
> The Christian is 100% correct.
Which Christian? The Catholic? The Lutheran?
>> > presumptions are right
>>
>>
>> Case in point, every religionist who shows up at
>> your door telling you that HIS religion is the "right"
>> one and your beliefs to the contrary are all wrong.
>
> The Christian is 100% correct.
The Baptist? The Mormon? The Jehovahs Witness?
tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 9:19:47 AM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 2:42 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
It's amazing how the context of that statement flew so far over your
head. You idiot.
---
a.a. #2273
head. You idiot.
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tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 9:20:19 AM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 2:45 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
called lying.
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a.a. #2273
> In article <502C7DA1.4010...@yahoo.com>, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a écrit :
>
> > > "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a écrit :
>
> > >news:c868e545-5541-4024...@z21g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
> > >> that.
>
> > > LOL
> > > Keep trying
>
> > Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same «god».
>
> > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > first place.
>
> The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
> is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> sun god was named Al iah.
You've been told MANY times that this is false. Repeating it is
>
> > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. Chew on
> > >> that.
>
> > > LOL
> > > Keep trying
>
> > Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same «god».
>
> > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > first place.
>
> The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
> is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> sun god was named Al iah.
called lying.
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a.a. #2273
tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 9:18:55 AM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 2:40 am, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
>
There you go hating all the people in the world, because you've
already judged that most christians really aren't.
Liar.
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a.a. #2273
> In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
>
already judged that most christians really aren't.
Liar.
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a.a. #2273
tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 9:37:01 AM8/16/12
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higher. Massive boon to the service vendor.
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a.a. #2273
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 5:14:51 PM8/16/12
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In article
<afe63142-1d41-495b...@v9g2000pbu.googlegroups.com>, Yap
<hhya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 2:45=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <502C7DA1.4010...@yahoo.com>, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote=
> :
> > > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a =E9crit :
> > > >news:c868e545-5541-4024...@z21g2000yqf.googlegroups.com=
> ...
> >
> > > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. =A0Che=
<afe63142-1d41-495b...@v9g2000pbu.googlegroups.com>, Yap
<hhya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 2:45=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <502C7DA1.4010...@yahoo.com>, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote=
> :
> > > Le 2012-08-15 10:28, SaPeIsMa a =E9crit :
> > > >news:c868e545-5541-4024...@z21g2000yqf.googlegroups.com=
> ...
> >
> > > >> The muslims worship the exact same god of the OT that you do. =A0Che=
> w on
> > > >> that.
> >
> > > > LOL
> > > > Keep trying
> >
> > > Jews, xians and muslims all worship the same =ABgod=BB.
> > > >> that.
> >
> > > > LOL
> > > > Keep trying
> >
> >
> > > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > > first place.
> >
> > The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun go=
> > > That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
> > > first place.
> >
> d
> > is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> > century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> > sun god was named Al iah.
>
> This is not true !!!!!!!!!
> Muhammad was a figure in the bible and Muslim established a sect
> deviant of Christianity.
> Both Islam and Christianity derived their fantasy from a common source
> of fairy tales, Jewish in origin.
>
> The Germans had suffered sufficiently from Jewish economical
> domination which started WWll, and Americans now has been more in the
> same boat.
> Why do you need to be wrapped in the Jewish con religion as well?
> The current Israelis are not buying any bullshits in the Christianity
> and are promoting Judaism but you guys seem to be proud in stealing
> the biblical religion from them?
There are dozens of sites that provide this same type of information:
> > is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
> > century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
> > sun god was named Al iah.
>
> This is not true !!!!!!!!!
> Muhammad was a figure in the bible and Muslim established a sect
> deviant of Christianity.
> Both Islam and Christianity derived their fantasy from a common source
> of fairy tales, Jewish in origin.
>
> The Germans had suffered sufficiently from Jewish economical
> domination which started WWll, and Americans now has been more in the
> same boat.
> Why do you need to be wrapped in the Jewish con religion as well?
> The current Israelis are not buying any bullshits in the Christianity
> and are promoting Judaism but you guys seem to be proud in stealing
> the biblical religion from them?
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 5:16:01 PM8/16/12
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In article <190gu0rvaljs1.1...@40tude.net>,
The proof is that there is a moon god symbol on the top of mosques today.
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 5:17:25 PM8/16/12
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In article <1gvrl60vcsldb$.wpco8sabny28$.d...@40tude.net>,
Good point but if one of them said that he was a MUSLIM--I would know the
name of his or her religion.
ing...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:42:44 -0700, Jason wrote:
>
> > In article <k0hupa$383$3...@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Le 2012-08-15 17:56, SaPeIsMa a �crit :
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:42:44 -0700, Jason wrote:
>
> > In article <k0hupa$383$3...@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
name of his or her religion.
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 5:18:24 PM8/16/12
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In article <XnsA0B14499DD273...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> news:Jason-15081...@66-53-210-10.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
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> > In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878...@216.196.121.131>,
> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
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> >> "SaPeIsMa" <Sape...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
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> >> > Nothing like a presumptuous idiot who imagines that his
> >> > presumptions are right
> >>
> >>
> >> Case in point, every religionist who shows up at
> >> your door telling you that HIS religion is the "right"
> >> one and your beliefs to the contrary are all wrong.
> >
> > The Christian is 100% correct.
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> Which Christian? The Catholic? The Lutheran?
> The Baptist? The Mormon? The Jehovahs Witness?
Any Christian except for Mormon or JW.
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> news:Jason-15081...@66-53-210-10.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
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> > In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878...@216.196.121.131>,
> > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "SaPeIsMa" <Sape...@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
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> >> > Nothing like a presumptuous idiot who imagines that his
> >> > presumptions are right
> >>
> >>
> >> Case in point, every religionist who shows up at
> >> your door telling you that HIS religion is the "right"
> >> one and your beliefs to the contrary are all wrong.
> >
> > The Christian is 100% correct.
>
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>
> Which Christian? The Catholic? The Lutheran?
> The Baptist? The Mormon? The Jehovahs Witness?
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 5:22:15 PM8/16/12
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In article <1kt6a5k7zunbc$.ouzkfey0...@40tude.net>,
Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their religion.
However, the wise ones have done that research and know that al-ilah or al
ilah (now called Allah) was the actual name of a famous sun god of Mecca
in the seventh century. The proof is that there is a moon god symbol on
However, the wise ones have done that research and know that al-ilah or al
ilah (now called Allah) was the actual name of a famous sun god of Mecca
in the seventh century. The proof is that there is a moon god symbol on
tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 5:20:57 PM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 5:16 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <190gu0rvaljs1.1wy4q0glsivzs....@40tude.net>,
Then why did you say they worship a SUN god? Liar. They worship YOUR
god. You hate every muslim for worshiping YOUR god.
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> In article <190gu0rvaljs1.1wy4q0glsivzs....@40tude.net>,
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> ing...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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> ing...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 00:15:55 -0700, Jason wrote:
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god. You hate every muslim for worshiping YOUR god.
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tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 5:23:19 PM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 5:18 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA0B14499DD273nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
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> > >> "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote in
approve that you are judging who is or isn't a christian?
Bigot.
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> In article <XnsA0B14499DD273nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
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> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >news:Jason-15081...@66-53-210-10.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
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> > > In article <XnsA0B0DC30AE878nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>,
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> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >news:Jason-15081...@66-53-210-10.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
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> > > Mitchell Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
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> > >> "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > >>news:k0hl1k$rgr$1...@dont-email.me:
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> > >> > Nothing like a presumptuous idiot who imagines that his
> > >> > presumptions are right
>
> > >> Case in point, every religionist who shows up at
> > >> your door telling you that HIS religion is the "right"
> > >> one and your beliefs to the contrary are all wrong.
>
> > > The Christian is 100% correct.
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> > Which Christian? The Catholic? The Lutheran?
> > The Baptist? The Mormon? The Jehovahs Witness?
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> Any Christian except for Mormon or JW.
So, you admit to being a "true" (tm) christian. How will your god
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> > >> > Nothing like a presumptuous idiot who imagines that his
> > >> > presumptions are right
>
> > >> Case in point, every religionist who shows up at
> > >> your door telling you that HIS religion is the "right"
> > >> one and your beliefs to the contrary are all wrong.
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> > > The Christian is 100% correct.
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> > Which Christian? The Catholic? The Lutheran?
> > The Baptist? The Mormon? The Jehovahs Witness?
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> Any Christian except for Mormon or JW.
approve that you are judging who is or isn't a christian?
Bigot.
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tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 5:25:11 PM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 5:22 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <1kt6a5k7zunbc$.ouzkfey0p1ek....@40tude.net>,
What a laugh. You don't know a single thing about YOUR religion.
What does it say about the plank in your eye and the speck in the
other person's eye?
What a hypocrite you are.
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> In article <1kt6a5k7zunbc$.ouzkfey0p1ek....@40tude.net>,
What does it say about the plank in your eye and the speck in the
other person's eye?
What a hypocrite you are.
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tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 5:20:10 PM8/16/12
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> <afe63142-1d41-495b-8a51-b5e0c3222...@v9g2000pbu.googlegroups.com>, Yap
I thought you said muslims worship a SUN god, liar. Truth is, they
worship the same god you do.
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worship the same god you do.
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Mitchell Holman
Aug 16, 2012, 6:01:18 PM8/16/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:Jason-16081...@66-53-213-73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
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> Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their religion.
That's rich, considering the source.
"The best example is Jesus who was also a God.
He spent lots of time involved in meditation."
Jason, Jan 8 2012. There is no mention Jesus
meditating in the Bible.
news:Jason-16081...@66-53-213-73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
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> Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their religion.
"The best example is Jesus who was also a God.
He spent lots of time involved in meditation."
Jason, Jan 8 2012. There is no mention Jesus
meditating in the Bible.
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 6:31:28 PM8/16/12
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In article <XnsA0B1AC0F86766...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
There are verses that discuss Jesus fasting for 40 days. It is implied
that he spent lots of time in prayer and meditation during that fast.
that he spent lots of time in prayer and meditation during that fast.
Mike Lovell
Aug 16, 2012, 6:25:06 PM8/16/12
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>> >> That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
>> >> first place.
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>> > The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
>> > is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
>> > century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
>> > sun god was named Al iah.
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>> Muslims and Jews worship the same God as you.
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>> You all have different "covenants". Ironically you all hate each other,
>> I guess that shows what a loving God you have!
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>> >> That they all hate each other pretty much proves there's no god in the
>> >> first place.
>> >
>> > The Muslims worship a famous sun god named al-ilah or al iah. That sun god
>> > is now called Allah. Sun God worship was very common in the seventh
>> > century in Mecca. That is when Muhammad lived in Mecca. His most favorite
>> > sun god was named Al iah.
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>> Muslims and Jews worship the same God as you.
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>> You all have different "covenants". Ironically you all hate each other,
>> I guess that shows what a loving God you have!
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Mitchell Holman
Aug 16, 2012, 6:41:30 PM8/16/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-1608121531280001@66-53-213-
73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
The word "meditation" is not in the Bible.
Would it kill you to admit you lied?
73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
Would it kill you to admit you lied?
Alex W.
Aug 16, 2012, 6:47:50 PM8/16/12
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The proof is that there is a hammer symbol on the top of churches
today.
Alex W.
Aug 16, 2012, 6:47:50 PM8/16/12
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:22:15 -0700, Jason wrote:
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> Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their religion.
They're just like their Christian cousins then....
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> Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their religion.
> However, the wise ones have done that research and know that al-ilah or al
> ilah (now called Allah) was the actual name of a famous sun god of Mecca
> in the seventh century. The proof is that there is a moon god symbol on
> the top of mosques today.
The crescent moon is a traditional sign, not a religious sign.
The moon is the sign of the Ottoman Empire and not of Islam. The
Turks adopted it from the flag and crest of Constantinople when
they conquered the city (and ended the Eastern Roman Empire) in
1453, and by virtue of ruling over most of the Muslim world for
almost six centuries the moon symbol crept into the wider Islamic
iconography.
There is no official universal symbol of Islam.
Alex W.
Aug 16, 2012, 6:47:50 PM8/16/12
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Whether that statement is correct or not, you will not know.
And your claim to know a man's true religion simply by asking him
the name of their religion is blown clear out of the water.
And if he tells you that he worships the one true god, you're
really in trouble...
tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 5:21:38 PM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 5:17 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <1gvrl60vcsldb$.wpco8sabny28$....@40tude.net>,
You are compounding how horribly you misunderstood the post. What an
idiot you are.
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> In article <1gvrl60vcsldb$.wpco8sabny28$....@40tude.net>,
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> > On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:42:44 -0700, Jason wrote:
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idiot you are.
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tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 7:01:41 PM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 6:31 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA0B1AC0F86766nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
Why would ANYTHING in a so-called "inerrant word" need to be IMPLIED?
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> In article <XnsA0B1AC0F86766nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
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SaPeIsMa
Aug 16, 2012, 7:14:45 PM8/16/12
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>> That's just your weak attempt to salve what little conscience you have
>>
>> As I said, whenever you are going to guess or presume, give me a chance
>> to
>> bet against you.
>> I'll make a killing.
>
> I didn't lie. You lose. Good thing you didn't bet.
>
Don't presume that because you are a liar, everyone else is
The only way you can make ANY conclusion about what may or may not be my
religious orientation is by STUPID and IGNORANT presumption
That you then justify your STUPID and IGNORANT presumption by claiming that
since Christians lie, I am therefore a Christian, since I would deny being
so, is nothing but stupid and justificatory presumption
Clearly you are a presumptuous ass
I leave you to wallow in your ignorance and stupidity
And I'm sure that you will have GREAT NEED to respond to salve your
minuscule ego.
Go for it, (and prove how small it is)
> On Aug 15, 10:11 pm, "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>> news:2bf2eff4-dba6-4e17...@l17g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
>> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>> > On Aug 15, 8:09 pm, "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>> >>news:0dc967f9-97a1-42d8...@z9g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
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>> > On Aug 15, 8:09 pm, "SaPeIsMa" <SapeI...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> "tirebiter" <dontspamme...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >> > I didn't say true christian. I said "true" christian. big
>> >> > difference. And I'm guessing you are in the second category.
>>
>> >> Then once again, you have guessed wrong
>> >> Next time give me a chance to bet on your guess, so I can make some
>> >> money
>> >> off you
>>
>> > Nope. I got you pegged 100% perfectly. You judge which other
>> > christians will be worthy of heaven. But don't fret it. I have
>> > rarely met one who honestly did not do that. Most deny it, but they
>> > also beleive it's OK to lie for god.
>>
>> >> > difference. And I'm guessing you are in the second category.
>>
>> >> Then once again, you have guessed wrong
>> >> Next time give me a chance to bet on your guess, so I can make some
>> >> money
>> >> off you
>>
>> > Nope. I got you pegged 100% perfectly. You judge which other
>> > christians will be worthy of heaven. But don't fret it. I have
>> > rarely met one who honestly did not do that. Most deny it, but they
>> > also beleive it's OK to lie for god.
>>
>> Nothing like a presumptuous idiot who imagines that his presumptions are
>> right
>> And just because YOU are a liar, does not mean everyone else is
>> right
>> That's just your weak attempt to salve what little conscience you have
>>
>> As I said, whenever you are going to guess or presume, give me a chance
>> to
>> bet against you.
>> I'll make a killing.
>
> I didn't lie. You lose. Good thing you didn't bet.
>
Don't presume that because you are a liar, everyone else is
The only way you can make ANY conclusion about what may or may not be my
religious orientation is by STUPID and IGNORANT presumption
That you then justify your STUPID and IGNORANT presumption by claiming that
since Christians lie, I am therefore a Christian, since I would deny being
so, is nothing but stupid and justificatory presumption
Clearly you are a presumptuous ass
I leave you to wallow in your ignorance and stupidity
And I'm sure that you will have GREAT NEED to respond to salve your
minuscule ego.
Go for it, (and prove how small it is)
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 7:40:15 PM8/16/12
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In article <XnsA0B1B2E05A884...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
developed in 1560. It came from a root word meditari which means to
remedy. That is the reason is not in the old King James Bible. The word
meditation is in the Amplified Bible. According to the small concordance
in my Amplified Bible--the word meditation is used in these scriptures:
Job 15:4
Psalms 49:3
Psalms 104:34
Psalms 119:97 to 99
Meditate is used in Luke 21:14 and 1st Tim. 4:15
We both know what the current definition of the word is--I stand by my
comment that Jesus clearly did meditate even if it was referred to as
fasting and prayer in those days.
The best verses to prove it is
Luke 9: 20-29
Jesus was able to heal a man of seizures. The deciples were not able to
heal people that had seizures. Jesus explained in verse 28 and 29:
his deciples asked Jesus "Why could not ye cast him out? And Jesus said
unto them "This kind can come forth (be cast out) by nothing but prayer
and fasting".
That means that Jesus spent lots of time involved in prayer and fasting.
That involves what I call meditation which was a word that was not
developed until 1560.
Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-1608121531280001@66-53-213-
> 73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > In article <XnsA0B1AC0F86766...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >> news:Jason-16081...@66-53-213-73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their religion.
> >>
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> >>
> >> That's rich, considering the source.
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> "The best example is Jesus who was also a God.
> >> He spent lots of time involved in meditation."
> >> Jason, Jan 8 2012. There is no mention Jesus
> >> meditating in the Bible.
> >
> > There are verses that discuss Jesus fasting for 40 days. It is implied
> > that he spent lots of time in prayer and meditation during that fast.
> >
>
>
> The word "meditation" is not in the Bible.
>
> Would it kill you to admit you lied?
According to my dictionary--it appears that the word was first used or
> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in news:Jason-1608121531280001@66-53-213-
> 73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > In article <XnsA0B1AC0F86766...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> >> news:Jason-16081...@66-53-213-73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their religion.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> That's rich, considering the source.
> >>
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> >>
> >> "The best example is Jesus who was also a God.
> >> He spent lots of time involved in meditation."
> >> Jason, Jan 8 2012. There is no mention Jesus
> >> meditating in the Bible.
> >
> > There are verses that discuss Jesus fasting for 40 days. It is implied
> > that he spent lots of time in prayer and meditation during that fast.
> >
>
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> The word "meditation" is not in the Bible.
>
> Would it kill you to admit you lied?
developed in 1560. It came from a root word meditari which means to
remedy. That is the reason is not in the old King James Bible. The word
meditation is in the Amplified Bible. According to the small concordance
in my Amplified Bible--the word meditation is used in these scriptures:
Job 15:4
Psalms 49:3
Psalms 104:34
Psalms 119:97 to 99
Meditate is used in Luke 21:14 and 1st Tim. 4:15
We both know what the current definition of the word is--I stand by my
comment that Jesus clearly did meditate even if it was referred to as
fasting and prayer in those days.
The best verses to prove it is
Luke 9: 20-29
Jesus was able to heal a man of seizures. The deciples were not able to
heal people that had seizures. Jesus explained in verse 28 and 29:
his deciples asked Jesus "Why could not ye cast him out? And Jesus said
unto them "This kind can come forth (be cast out) by nothing but prayer
and fasting".
That means that Jesus spent lots of time involved in prayer and fasting.
That involves what I call meditation which was a word that was not
developed until 1560.
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 7:41:54 PM8/16/12
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In article <18tk5hzxb4ly$.1ajs47ojeprif$.d...@40tude.net>,
My next question would be what is the name of that one true god that you
worship. If he said Allah--I would know that he was a Muslim.
worship. If he said Allah--I would know that he was a Muslim.
Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 7:47:24 PM8/16/12
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In article <jhdte3r98ws6.102094ih4sbmb$.d...@40tude.net>,
I have heard that before. I believe it is based on moon god worship of the
famous moon god named al-ilah. As you know, moon god worship was common in
the city of Mecca in the seventh century which is when Muhammad lived in
Mecca.
Mecca continues to be the center of the Muslim religion.
The symbol for moon god worship was the crescent moon.
I don't know if moon god worship was common in the Ottoman Empire. Do you know?
famous moon god named al-ilah. As you know, moon god worship was common in
the city of Mecca in the seventh century which is when Muhammad lived in
Mecca.
Mecca continues to be the center of the Muslim religion.
The symbol for moon god worship was the crescent moon.
I don't know if moon god worship was common in the Ottoman Empire. Do you know?
Alex W.
Aug 16, 2012, 7:49:21 PM8/16/12
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If you rely on this, you might just misidentify an Indonesian
Pentecostalist or a Catholic from Malta. Arab Christians,
Baha'i, Malaysian and Maltese Christians and Sikhs all use the
word "Allah".
Alex W.
Aug 16, 2012, 7:54:12 PM8/16/12
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:47:24 -0700, Jason wrote:
> In article <jhdte3r98ws6.102094ih4sbmb$.d...@40tude.net>,
> ing...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:22:15 -0700, Jason wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their religion.
>>
>> They're just like their Christian cousins then....
>>
>>
>>> However, the wise ones have done that research and know that al-ilah or al
>>> ilah (now called Allah) was the actual name of a famous sun god of Mecca
>>> in the seventh century. The proof is that there is a moon god symbol on
>>> the top of mosques today.
>>
>> He aims, he shoots, he strikes out.
>>
>> The crescent moon is a traditional sign, not a religious sign.
>>
>> The moon is the sign of the Ottoman Empire and not of Islam. The
>> Turks adopted it from the flag and crest of Constantinople when
>> they conquered the city (and ended the Eastern Roman Empire) in
>> 1453, and by virtue of ruling over most of the Muslim world for
>> almost six centuries the moon symbol crept into the wider Islamic
>> iconography.
>>
>> There is no official universal symbol of Islam.
>
> I have heard that before. I believe it is based on moon god worship of the
> famous moon god named al-ilah. As you know, moon god worship was common in
> the city of Mecca in the seventh century which is when Muhammad lived in
> Mecca.
What you believe is as irrelevant as it is false.
> In article <jhdte3r98ws6.102094ih4sbmb$.d...@40tude.net>,
> ing...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:22:15 -0700, Jason wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their religion.
>>
>> They're just like their Christian cousins then....
>>
>>
>>> However, the wise ones have done that research and know that al-ilah or al
>>> ilah (now called Allah) was the actual name of a famous sun god of Mecca
>>> in the seventh century. The proof is that there is a moon god symbol on
>>> the top of mosques today.
>>
>> He aims, he shoots, he strikes out.
>>
>> The crescent moon is a traditional sign, not a religious sign.
>>
>> The moon is the sign of the Ottoman Empire and not of Islam. The
>> Turks adopted it from the flag and crest of Constantinople when
>> they conquered the city (and ended the Eastern Roman Empire) in
>> 1453, and by virtue of ruling over most of the Muslim world for
>> almost six centuries the moon symbol crept into the wider Islamic
>> iconography.
>>
>> There is no official universal symbol of Islam.
>
> I have heard that before. I believe it is based on moon god worship of the
> famous moon god named al-ilah. As you know, moon god worship was common in
> the city of Mecca in the seventh century which is when Muhammad lived in
> Mecca.
Did your preacher never explain to you that insisting on
believing in a vile ad slanderous lie is a sin? You are
endangering your entry into heaven with your persistent lies.
>
> Mecca continues to be the center of the Muslim religion.
>
> The symbol for moon god worship was the crescent moon.
>
> I don't know if moon god worship was common in the Ottoman Empire. Do you know?
moon.
By your logic, this means she is a moon goddess (and Jesus the
son of a moon goddess).
tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 8:10:58 PM8/16/12
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tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 9:26:59 PM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 7:47 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <jhdte3r98ws6.102094ih4sbmb$....@40tude.net>,
Why is it, liar Jason, that when you write "I believe..." the next
thing is the most preposterous thing imaginable? Why is that bigot
Jason?
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> In article <jhdte3r98ws6.102094ih4sbmb$....@40tude.net>,
thing is the most preposterous thing imaginable? Why is that bigot
Jason?
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tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 9:25:30 PM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 7:41 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <18tk5hzxb4ly$.1ajs47ojeprif$....@40tude.net>,
> > > In article <1gvrl60vcsldb$.wpco8sabny28$....@40tude.net>,
Truly Jason, even you must be hearing all that whooshing sound. Get a
clue.
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> In article <18tk5hzxb4ly$.1ajs47ojeprif$....@40tude.net>,
> > > In article <1gvrl60vcsldb$.wpco8sabny28$....@40tude.net>,
> > >>> In article <k0hupa$38...@dont-email.me>, Olrik <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>> Le 2012-08-15 17:56, SaPeIsMa a crit :
>
>
> > >>>> Le 2012-08-15 17:56, SaPeIsMa a crit :
>
clue.
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Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 10:17:50 PM8/16/12
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Jason
Aug 16, 2012, 10:28:23 PM8/16/12
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In article <10yg7tm4qs9ne.1...@40tude.net>,
Please provide the chapter and verse in the Bible that has that information.
tirebiter
Aug 16, 2012, 11:07:27 PM8/16/12
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On Aug 16, 10:17 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >>> In article <1gvrl60vcsldb$.wpco8sabny28$....@40tude.net>,
> > >>>>> In article <k0hupa$38...@dont-email.me>, Olrik
> <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Whoosh, Jason. Whoosh.
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> In article <grgi2dqdgtc$.q6ew87dx2vg....@40tude.net>, ing...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:41:54 -0700, Jason wrote:
>
> > > In article <18tk5hzxb4ly$.1ajs47ojeprif$....@40tude.net>,
> > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:41:54 -0700, Jason wrote:
>
> > >>> In article <1gvrl60vcsldb$.wpco8sabny28$....@40tude.net>,
> > >>>>> In article <k0hupa$38...@dont-email.me>, Olrik
> <olrik...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Alex W.
Aug 17, 2012, 7:01:20 AM8/17/12
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You clearly do not require citations from the Q'ran for your
lunatic idea, and I am simply using the same yardstick you are.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3337/3612385827_250a9f488a_z.jpg
http://www.teeuwisse.de/typo3temp/pics/cc9899dd2c.jpg
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4063/5141046454_1af5101291_z.jpg
http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/53/5391/Q6MJG00Z/art-print/jacopo-robusti-tintoretto-the-madonna-and-child-in-a-mandorla-on-a-crescent-moon-and-clouds-with-the-book-of-wisdom.jpg
I can post pictures of Mary Mother of Jesus as a moon goddess all
day long.
Armchair Mountaineering
Aug 17, 2012, 2:07:19 PM8/17/12
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Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>In article <hlwdjsd-D06CC9...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
>Douglas <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>> In article <Jason-16081...@66-53-223-50.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> Why did you ask that question?
>To narrow down the exact religion that the above poster asked me about.
>I have forgotten how this subject got started.
Even if he answers yes, even if he answers no, it would still be
impossible to narrow down which religion he harbors. Every cultist
has their own special version, it is rare that they all agree on
the same exact delusions, there are always variants.
Every brain is fucked differently.
--- Looks like vegetables he can cram up his Christian ass.
>In article <hlwdjsd-D06CC9...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
>Douglas <hlw...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>> In article <Jason-16081...@66-53-223-50.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
>> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>> In article <grgi2dqdgtc$.q6ew87d...@40tude.net>, ing...@yahoo.co.uk
>>> In article <grgi2dqdgtc$.q6ew87d...@40tude.net>, ing...@yahoo.co.uk
>To narrow down the exact religion that the above poster asked me about.
>I have forgotten how this subject got started.
Even if he answers yes, even if he answers no, it would still be
impossible to narrow down which religion he harbors. Every cultist
has their own special version, it is rare that they all agree on
the same exact delusions, there are always variants.
Every brain is fucked differently.
--- Looks like vegetables he can cram up his Christian ass.
Uncle Thomas
Aug 17, 2012, 3:16:44 PM8/17/12
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Calvin Ramsey <calvin...@live.com> wrote:
>On 8/16/2012 2:38 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>> On 2012-08-16, Calvin Ramsey<calvin...@live.com> wrote:
>>>> Now the amount of back peddling he's doing he could reverse up Niagara
>>>> Falls on a paddle boat!
>>> I see at least you're humiliated over falling for it.
>> You fucked up, you got caught out.
>Calm down, don't get so angry at yourself.
>You're going to be alright.
>It's OK if you fell for it this one time.
>Just whatever you do, don't fall for it the *NEXT* time.
Coming from a cult savage that hands his money to his pedophile cult
masters at every opportunity he gets, that's amusing.
How much have you spent trying to buy "salvation," ya frothing loon?
>On 8/16/2012 2:38 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>> On 2012-08-16, Calvin Ramsey<calvin...@live.com> wrote:
>>>> Now the amount of back peddling he's doing he could reverse up Niagara
>>>> Falls on a paddle boat!
>>> I see at least you're humiliated over falling for it.
>> You fucked up, you got caught out.
>Calm down, don't get so angry at yourself.
>You're going to be alright.
>It's OK if you fell for it this one time.
>Just whatever you do, don't fall for it the *NEXT* time.
Coming from a cult savage that hands his money to his pedophile cult
masters at every opportunity he gets, that's amusing.
How much have you spent trying to buy "salvation," ya frothing loon?
Uncle Thomas
Aug 17, 2012, 3:17:51 PM8/17/12
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Calvin Ramsey <calvin...@live.com> wrote:
>On 8/17/2012 1:51 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>> I hope your God accepts this order.
>I'm glad you mentioned that.
Job 13. Woops! Every shitting Christian is going to hell. D'oh!
>On 8/17/2012 1:51 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>> On 2012-08-17, Calvin Ramsey<calvin...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Now the amount of back peddling he's doing he could reverse up Niagara
>>>>>> Falls on a paddle boat!
>>>>> I see at least you're humiliated over falling for it.
>>>> You fucked up, you got caught out.
>>> Calm down, falling for that same trick again.
>>>>>> Now the amount of back peddling he's doing he could reverse up Niagara
>>>>>> Falls on a paddle boat!
>>>>> I see at least you're humiliated over falling for it.
>>>> You fucked up, you got caught out.
>> I hope your God accepts this order.
>I'm glad you mentioned that.
Job 13. Woops! Every shitting Christian is going to hell. D'oh!
Jason
Aug 17, 2012, 5:39:51 PM8/17/12
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In article <6s2dnaPTltLKFbPN...@posted.sonicnet>,
And there are at least two types of Muslims. They have had wars with each other.
If he said that he was a Muslim--my next question would be what sort of
Muslim are you?
If he said that he was a Muslim--my next question would be what sort of
Muslim are you?
tirebiter
Aug 17, 2012, 5:41:41 PM8/17/12
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On Aug 17, 5:39 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <6s2dnaPTltLKFbPNnZ2dnUVZ_tydn...@posted.sonicnet>,
> > >In article <hlwdjsd-D06CC9.19274016082...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
> > >Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > >> In article <Jason-1608121917500...@66-53-223-50.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >>> In article <grgi2dqdgtc$.q6ew87dx2vg....@40tude.net>, ing...@yahoo.co.uk
see, don't you?
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> In article <6s2dnaPTltLKFbPNnZ2dnUVZ_tydn...@posted.sonicnet>,
> > >In article <hlwdjsd-D06CC9.19274016082...@5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Jeanne
> > >Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > >> In article <Jason-1608121917500...@66-53-223-50.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com>,
> > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > >>> In article <grgi2dqdgtc$.q6ew87dx2vg....@40tude.net>, ing...@yahoo.co.uk
> > >>>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:41:54 -0700, Jason wrote:
> > >>>>> My next question would be what is the name of that one true god that you
> > >>>>> worship. If he said Allah--I would know that he was a Muslim.
> > >>>> No, you would not.
> > >>>> If you rely on this, you might just misidentify an Indonesian
> > >>>> Pentecostalist or a Catholic from Malta. Arab Christians,
> > >>>> Baha'i, Malaysian and Maltese Christians and Sikhs all use the
> > >>>> word "Allah".
> > >>> Good point. My next question would be--Are you a Muslim?
> > >> Why did you ask that question?
> > >To narrow down the exact religion that the above poster asked me about.
> > >I have forgotten how this subject got started.
>
> > Even if he answers yes, even if he answers no, it would still be
> > impossible to narrow down which religion he harbors. Every cultist
> > has their own special version, it is rare that they all agree on
> > the same exact delusions, there are always variants.
>
> > Every brain is fucked differently.
>
> > --- Looks like vegetables he can cram up his Christian ass.
>
> And there are at least two types of Muslims. They have had wars with each other.
> If he said that he was a Muslim--my next question would be what sort of
> Muslim are you?
"at least"? You sure do like to display your stupidity for all to
> > >>>>> My next question would be what is the name of that one true god that you
> > >>>>> worship. If he said Allah--I would know that he was a Muslim.
> > >>>> No, you would not.
> > >>>> If you rely on this, you might just misidentify an Indonesian
> > >>>> Pentecostalist or a Catholic from Malta. Arab Christians,
> > >>>> Baha'i, Malaysian and Maltese Christians and Sikhs all use the
> > >>>> word "Allah".
> > >>> Good point. My next question would be--Are you a Muslim?
> > >> Why did you ask that question?
> > >To narrow down the exact religion that the above poster asked me about.
> > >I have forgotten how this subject got started.
>
> > Even if he answers yes, even if he answers no, it would still be
> > impossible to narrow down which religion he harbors. Every cultist
> > has their own special version, it is rare that they all agree on
> > the same exact delusions, there are always variants.
>
> > Every brain is fucked differently.
>
> > --- Looks like vegetables he can cram up his Christian ass.
>
> And there are at least two types of Muslims. They have had wars with each other.
> If he said that he was a Muslim--my next question would be what sort of
> Muslim are you?
see, don't you?
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Father Haskell
Aug 19, 2012, 4:00:12 PM8/19/12
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> There are verses that discuss Jesus fasting for 40 days. It is implied
> that he spent lots of time in prayer and masturbation during that fast.
Did we really need to hear that?
Father Haskell
Aug 19, 2012, 4:07:19 PM8/19/12
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On Aug 16, 7:40 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <XnsA0B1B2E05A884nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
If anyone tried to pray over me while I'm having a
grand mal, I'd sue them.
> In article <XnsA0B1B2E05A884nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
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> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1608121531280001@66-53-213-
> > 73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
> > > In article <XnsA0B1AC0F86766nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
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> Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1608121531280001@66-53-213-
> > 73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>
grand mal, I'd sue them.
Father Haskell
Aug 19, 2012, 4:09:26 PM8/19/12
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On Aug 16, 7:47 pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <jhdte3r98ws6.102094ih4sbmb$....@40tude.net>,
Let them worship Pluto for all anyone cares.
> In article <jhdte3r98ws6.102094ih4sbmb$....@40tude.net>,
Jason
Aug 19, 2012, 4:59:58 PM8/19/12
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In article
<55e7e9de-eef0-4d17...@s2g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>, Father
Haskell <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
someone changed my post. One such person used to do it on a daily basis.
<55e7e9de-eef0-4d17...@s2g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>, Father
Haskell <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jason
Aug 19, 2012, 5:05:55 PM8/19/12
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In article
<9e17402f-aa2f-4c9d...@q4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, Father
Haskell <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 7:40=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <XnsA0B1B2E05A884nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> >
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> > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1608121531280001@66-53-213-
> > > 73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >
> > > > In article <XnsA0B1AC0F86766nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitche=
> ion.
> >
> > > >> =A0 =A0 =A0That's rich, considering the source.
> >
> > > =A0 =A0 Would it kill you to admit you lied?
OK--I will leave you alone.
<9e17402f-aa2f-4c9d...@q4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, Father
Haskell <father...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 7:40=A0pm, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> > In article <XnsA0B1B2E05A884nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
> >
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> > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> > > Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote innews:Jason-1608121531280001@66-53-213-
> > > 73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >
> ll
> > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >>news:Jason-16081...@66-53-213-73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >
> > > >> > Many Muslims don't know very much about the history of their relig=
> > > > Holman <nomailcomcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >> Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
> > > >>news:Jason-16081...@66-53-213-73.lsan.mdsg-pacwest.com:
> >
> ion.
> >
> > > >> =A0 =A0 =A0That's rich, considering the source.
> >
> > > >> "The best example is Jesus who was also a God.
> > > >> He spent lots of time involved in meditation."
> > > >> Jason, Jan 8 2012. There is no mention Jesus
> > > >> meditating in the Bible.
> >
> > > > There are verses that discuss Jesus fasting for 40 days. It is implie=
> > > >> "The best example is Jesus who was also a God.
> > > >> He spent lots of time involved in meditation."
> > > >> Jason, Jan 8 2012. There is no mention Jesus
> > > >> meditating in the Bible.
> >
> d
> > > > that he spent lots of time in prayer and meditation during that fast.
> >
> > > =A0 =A0 The word "meditation" is not in the Bible.
> > > > that he spent lots of time in prayer and meditation during that fast.
> >
> >
> > > =A0 =A0 Would it kill you to admit you lied?
Black Coffee
Aug 19, 2012, 6:25:33 PM8/19/12
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"Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Aug 19, 11:03=A0am, Calvin Ramsey <calvinram...@live.com> wrote:
>> On 8/19/2012 10:23 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>> >>>> If you knew the answer, you would know how wrong you are.
>> >>> I already told you, I don't care about the answer.
>> >> That's fine. You can stay ignorant of why you're wrong.
>> > Go on then, enlighten us what I'm wrong about and why I'm wrong.
>> Learn why the Ten Commandments were given, and you will know why you are wrong.
>They were given so that some farmboy wouldn't have to work the field,
>smirking asshole.
Hey now, don't knock it, it worked. Tens of millions of people don't
have to work a single day thanks to fucktard cultists who fall for
it every day of their idiot lives.
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"Fred" is my Christian name.
>On Aug 19, 11:03=A0am, Calvin Ramsey <calvinram...@live.com> wrote:
>> On 8/19/2012 10:23 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>> >>>> If you knew the answer, you would know how wrong you are.
>> >>> I already told you, I don't care about the answer.
>> >> That's fine. You can stay ignorant of why you're wrong.
>> > Go on then, enlighten us what I'm wrong about and why I'm wrong.
>> Learn why the Ten Commandments were given, and you will know why you are wrong.
>They were given so that some farmboy wouldn't have to work the field,
>smirking asshole.
Hey now, don't knock it, it worked. Tens of millions of people don't
have to work a single day thanks to fucktard cultists who fall for
it every day of their idiot lives.
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Syd M.
Aug 19, 2012, 6:58:56 PM8/19/12
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On Aug 19, 6:25 pm, wblev...@fbi.gov (Black Coffee) wrote:
That only proves how ignorant people are.
Angle of Insolation
Aug 19, 2012, 7:23:06 PM8/19/12
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Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 20:59:56 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>>no--you missed a simple point.
>He did not. You did. There is clear evidence that David and Solomon did
>not exist in the manner described in the Bible. The authors writing
>about David and Solomon were, at best, exaggerating, at worst, lying
>through their teeth.
Amazing. You two are arguing about fictional constructs in a comic book.
>On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 20:59:56 -0700, Ja...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
>>no--you missed a simple point.
>He did not. You did. There is clear evidence that David and Solomon did
>not exist in the manner described in the Bible. The authors writing
>about David and Solomon were, at best, exaggerating, at worst, lying
>through their teeth.
Amazing. You two are arguing about fictional constructs in a comic book.
Angle of Insolation
Aug 19, 2012, 7:26:04 PM8/19/12
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"Syd M." <pauldav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
before the HolySmoke FidoNet Echo daze I have been torn between
laughing at the stupid fucks that fall for religion, and pitying
them for the same reasons.
I don't know if you were in HolySmoke, but we had endless discussions
about whether Christians should be laughed at or pitied for having
their pockets picked, and it always ended up with people saying that
there's a difference between being robbed at the point of a gun or
being robbed by bent of being brought up incapable of thinking for
oneself.
>On Aug 19, 6:25=A0pm, wblev...@fbi.gov (Black Coffee) wrote:
>> "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>On Aug 19, 11:03=3DA0am, Calvin Ramsey <calvinram...@live.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/19/2012 10:23 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>>>>>>>> If you knew the answer, you would know how wrong you are.
>>>>>>> I already told you, I don't care about the answer.
>>>>>> That's fine. You can stay ignorant of why you're wrong.
>>>>> Go on then, enlighten us what I'm wrong about and why I'm wrong.
>>>> Learn why the Ten Commandments were given, and you will know why you a=
>>>> On 8/19/2012 10:23 AM, Mike Lovell wrote:
>>>>>>>> If you knew the answer, you would know how wrong you are.
>>>>>>> I already told you, I don't care about the answer.
>>>>>> That's fine. You can stay ignorant of why you're wrong.
>>>>> Go on then, enlighten us what I'm wrong about and why I'm wrong.
>>>They were given so that some farmboy wouldn't have to work the field,
>>>smirking asshole.
>> Hey now, don't knock it, it worked. Tens of millions of people don't
>> have to work a single day thanks to fucktard cultists who fall for
>> it every day of their idiot lives.
>That only proves how ignorant people are.
Well, to be fair, it shows how desperate hopeless people are. Even
>>>smirking asshole.
>> Hey now, don't knock it, it worked. Tens of millions of people don't
>> have to work a single day thanks to fucktard cultists who fall for
>> it every day of their idiot lives.
>That only proves how ignorant people are.
before the HolySmoke FidoNet Echo daze I have been torn between
laughing at the stupid fucks that fall for religion, and pitying
them for the same reasons.
I don't know if you were in HolySmoke, but we had endless discussions
about whether Christians should be laughed at or pitied for having
their pockets picked, and it always ended up with people saying that
there's a difference between being robbed at the point of a gun or
being robbed by bent of being brought up incapable of thinking for
oneself.
Alex W.
Aug 19, 2012, 7:57:17 PM8/19/12
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Angle of Insolation
Aug 19, 2012, 11:05:18 PM8/19/12
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it's got a billion idiots out there that believe it really happened.
I remember in "A Piece of the Action" on Star Trek the original.
"Hey! Don't knock the book!"
Angle of Insolation
Aug 19, 2012, 11:09:49 PM8/19/12
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>news:Jason-19081...@66-53-220-33.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com:
>> Lots of missionaries have been killed for spreading the gospel.
>Joseph Smith, Mary Dyer, William Tyndale,
>Thomas Cromwell........
Most Christanic missionaries aren't killed "for spreading the gospel,"
they are killed for attempting to commit sedition against the local
ruling Oligarchies who are utilizing the existing Christanic occultism
to control and manipulate the rubes.
Islamics and Christians kill Christians because invading Christians
are trying to usurp the prevelant occult delusion brand that the ruling
theocrats want to be left as they are.
>> Lots of missionaries have been killed for spreading the gospel.
>Joseph Smith, Mary Dyer, William Tyndale,
>Thomas Cromwell........
Most Christanic missionaries aren't killed "for spreading the gospel,"
they are killed for attempting to commit sedition against the local
ruling Oligarchies who are utilizing the existing Christanic occultism
to control and manipulate the rubes.
Islamics and Christians kill Christians because invading Christians
are trying to usurp the prevelant occult delusion brand that the ruling
theocrats want to be left as they are.
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