T-Shirt is a potential threat to bush
Wester
WHIO-TV, NEWSCENTER 7
Secret Service Agents question a Bellbrook High School student for wearing a
controversial t-shirt.
The shirt has a picture of President Bush on it and the words, "not my
president." The picture also showed cross-hairs on the Bush's forehead.
Because this issue is so sensitive, even we don't know the students name.
But we can tell you this whole thing was brought to the attention of school
administrators after two students came forward and complained.
According to the Assistant Principal, the student had worn it before and the
shirt didn't cause any problems until cross hairs appeared on the
President's forehead.
The Assistant Principal confiscated the shirt, called the FBI and agents
then called the secret service.
From that point, the Secret Service took over the investigation and met with
the student and essentially treated the situation as a potential threat on
the president.
There are more than 800 students at Bellbrook High School and the Assistant
Principal says they're all good kids, but he's especially proud of two of
them.
The Assistant Principal states that he is proud of the two students who
brought the issue to the attention of the school administration.
http://www.activedayton.com/partners/whiotv/news/1209_tshirt.html
Thomas J. Paladino Jr.
should let him spend some time in Gitmo with the other terrorists, and see
if he changes his tune.
I hated Clinton more than anyone, but I would NEVER EVER even imagine
wearing a t-shirt that depicted him in a set of cross-hairs like that. Same
with Gore. It is just plain wrong, and rightly illegal.
Just goes to show you who the truly hateful and violent party is.
Thomas J. Paladino Jr.
New York City
abracadabra
"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." <tpal...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:IFfK9.249647$Up6.43...@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> That friggin kid got what he deserved. Cross-hairs? That is not funny.
They
> should let him spend some time in Gitmo with the other terrorists, and see
> if he changes his tune.
1) Given the times, it was stupid for the parents to let their kid go out
like that
2) Cross hairs on w's head - that could be funny. Funnier would just be a
pic of W with "Not a moron" under it
3) Time in a concentration camp for making fun of our idiot president?
You're a nazi.
Seawolf
"abracadabra" <ab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:atcqdu$iat$1...@slb4.atl.mindspring.net...
Making fun of the President isn't against the law. Threatening the life of
the President is. Now, I may be old fashioned, but placing cross-hairs on a
picture of the President's head seems to me to be threatening.
Brent
>
>
Rich Travsky
>
> Anti-Bush T-Shirt
> WHIO-TV, NEWSCENTER 7
> Secret Service Agents question a Bellbrook High School student for wearing a
> controversial t-shirt.
>
Kid's lucky he wasn't carrying a bag of pretzels...
RT
Gary Ott
news:uvk1ksh...@corp.supernews.com:
They have drugs for paranoia now. I understand they're pretty
efficacious.
>
> Brent
>>
>>
>
>
>
Gregory Gadow
And yet, no one took legal action when it was Clinton a few years ago. Nor when
it is some other head of a state posessing (or alleged to posess) weapons of
mass destruction.
--
Gregory Gadow
tech...@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
If it is the act of a traitor to speak out against the
unConstitional acts of my government, to excercise my
rights guaranteed by that Constitution -- the right to
publish my opinions and speak my thoughts, the right
to petition for a redress of grievances, the right to
be secure in my person and property against search and
seizure without due process of law -- then I am a traitor.
And God grant us many, many more traitors, for we are in
dire need of them.
Gary Ott
news:3DFA1061...@hotMOVEmail.com:
Please! My sides hurt. I can barely breathe.
>
> RT
>
Cand...@labyrinth7.net
says...
>
>Anti-Bush T-Shirt
>WHIO-TV, NEWSCENTER 7
>Secret Service Agents question a Bellbrook High School student for wearing a
>controversial t-shirt.
>
>The shirt has a picture of President Bush on it and the words, "not my
>president." The picture also showed cross-hairs on the Bush's forehead.
>
>Because this issue is so sensitive, even we don't know the students name.
So I quess the T-shirts showing Bush butt-fucking Lady Liberty are out too then?
abracadabra
"Seawolf" <Seawo...@excite.com> wrote in message
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>
> "abracadabra" <ab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:atcqdu$iat$1...@slb4.atl.mindspring.net...
> >
> > "Thomas J. Paladino Jr." <tpal...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:IFfK9.249647$Up6.43...@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > That friggin kid got what he deserved. Cross-hairs? That is not funny.
> > They
> > > should let him spend some time in Gitmo with the other terrorists, and
> see
> > > if he changes his tune.
> >
> > 1) Given the times, it was stupid for the parents to let their kid go
out
> > like that
> > 2) Cross hairs on w's head - that could be funny. Funnier would just be
a
> > pic of W with "Not a moron" under it
> > 3) Time in a concentration camp for making fun of our idiot president?
> > You're a nazi.
>
>
> Making fun of the President isn't against the law. Threatening the life
of
> the President is.
The student did not threaten the life of W.
Now, I may be old fashioned, but placing cross-hairs on a
> picture of the President's head seems to me to be threatening.
You are too old fashioned.
>
> Brent
> >
> >
>
>
D.G. Porter
>
> Seawolf wrote:
>
> > "abracadabra" <ab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:atcqdu$iat$1...@slb4.atl.mindspring.net...
> > >
> > > "Thomas J. Paladino Jr." <tpal...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:IFfK9.249647$Up6.43...@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > > > That friggin kid got what he deserved. Cross-hairs? That is not funny.
> > > They
> > > > should let him spend some time in Gitmo with the other terrorists, and
> > see
> > > > if he changes his tune.
> > >
> > > 1) Given the times, it was stupid for the parents to let their kid go out
> > > like that
> > > 2) Cross hairs on w's head - that could be funny. Funnier would just be a
> > > pic of W with "Not a moron" under it
> > > 3) Time in a concentration camp for making fun of our idiot president?
> > > You're a nazi.
> >
> > Making fun of the President isn't against the law. Threatening the life of
> > the President is. Now, I may be old fashioned, but placing cross-hairs on a
> > picture of the President's head seems to me to be threatening.
>
> And yet, no one took legal action when it was Clinton a few years ago. Nor when
> it is some other head of a state posessing (or alleged to posess) weapons of
> mass destruction.
I remember hearing CSPAN callers calling for Clinton's assassination
with some frequency. I even reported the time of the calls to the SS --
and nothing was done.
Tempest
As are the T-shirts that show Bush getting butt-fucked by bin Laden.
--
"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."
-- Voltaire
Tempest
Studebaker Hawk
>>> > That friggin kid got what he deserved. Cross-hairs?
>>> >That is not funny.
Sure it is!!!!
>>> They should let him spend some
>>> > time in Gitmo with the other terrorists,
>>> > and see if he changes his tune.
Oh, now a T shirt makes one a terrorist?
What a fraidy-cat!!!
>>> 1) Given the times, it was stupid for the parents to let their kid go
>>> out like that
>>> 2) Cross hairs on w's head - that could be funny. Funnier would just
>>> be a pic of W with "Not a moron" under it
>>> 3) Time in a concentration camp for making fun of our idiot
>>> president? You're a nazi.
>>
>>
>> Making fun of the President isn't against the law. Threatening the
>> life of the President is. Now, I may be old fashioned, but placing
>> cross-hairs on a picture of the President's head seems to me to be
>> threatening.
>
>
>They have drugs for paranoia now. I understand they're pretty
>efficacious. >> Brent
Yeah, we all saw that look of panic, like a frightened
rabbit on The Moron's face right before he scampered
down one of his holes on 9-11.
I guess bin Laden was gunna throw Allah-guided
camel shit balls at him.
And he KNOWS we all saw that.
Frightened, he turned a terrorist act into an act of war.
Now he just wants to PUCH somebody.
Now a T Shirt is a threat too!
BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
Hey Republicans !!!???
BOOOOOO!
BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
D.G. Porter
>
>
> Yeah, we all saw that look of panic, like a frightened
> rabbit on The Moron's face right before he scampered
> down one of his holes on 9-11.
>
> I guess bin Laden was gunna throw Allah-guided
> camel shit balls at him.
> And he KNOWS we all saw that.
> Frightened, he turned a terrorist act into an act of war.
> Now he just wants to PUCH somebody.
>
> Now a T Shirt is a threat too!
> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
>
> Hey Republicans !!!???
>
> BOOOOOO!
>
> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
"Heh-heh, George 'W' was a Bonesman. Then he was a failed businessman.
And now, George 'W' is -- A GOVERNOR! <RIP!> And he's about to find
out -- that being a governor -- is harder than it looks! George 'W' is
-- THE GOVERNOR! Rated PG-13."
"Heh-heh, George 'W' is a part-time Texas governor, with everything
going for him. Only problem is -- he's about to become -- AN APPOINTED
PRESIDENT! ('I'm a dictator, I mean, a President!') It's 24-7 comedy!
George 'W' is -- AN APPOINTED PRESIDENT! Rated PG-13."
"Heh-heh, George 'W' is a somewhat popular President, who seemed to have
it all -- until one day, he came across -- A PRETZEL! <CRUNCH!> And
his life changed forever. Now his body is taking a tumble. And he's
about to find out -- that being attacked by a pretzel -- ain't so
great! George 'W' is -- OFF THE WAGON! Rated PG-13."
"Heh-heh, George 'W', derp dee derp! Derp dee derpittee derpee derp!
<KLANG!> Until one day, a derpa derpa durba derp! <RIP!> And he's
about to derp dee-derp, -- ! -- da teetley tum! ('Whoooaaaa!
Whoa!!!') From the creators of -- DER -- and -- 'TUM TA TITTALY TUM
TERPA DERP,' George 'W' is -- DA DERP DEE DERP DA TEETLEY DERPEE DUBBYA
DUMB. Rated PG-13."
"Heh-heh, George 'W' is an appointed Chief Executive, who seemed to have
everything going for him as he prosecuted a trumped-up 'war' -- until
one day, he came across -- A T-SHIRT! <RIP!> And his life changed
forever! <BONK!> Now he's about to find out <KLANG!> -- that being
attacked by a T-shirt <SCREECH!> -- is scarier than being told that a
plane was flown into the Pentagon! <BOUFFO!> It non-stop comedy from
the makers of 'MY PAN PLAYS DOWN,' and 'IS OUR CHILDREN LEARNING?',
George 'W' is -- 'IN THE CROSS-HAIRS'! Rated PG-13."
Tempest
LOL! Too funny.
Thomas J. Paladino Jr.
Too bad we keep winning those elections, though.
But keep up your whining..... I'm sure it's making a difference. <cough>
D.G. Porter
>
> Studebaker Hawk wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, we all saw that look of panic, like a frightened
> > rabbit on The Moron's face right before he scampered
> > down one of his holes on 9-11.
> >
> > I guess bin Laden was gunna throw Allah-guided
> > camel shit balls at him.
> > And he KNOWS we all saw that.
> > Frightened, he turned a terrorist act into an act of war.
> > Now he just wants to PUCH somebody.
> >
> > Now a T Shirt is a threat too!
> > BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
> >
> > Hey Republicans !!!???
> >
> > BOOOOOO!
> >
> > BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
>
> LOL! Too funny.
"Heh-heh, George 'W' is an appointed Chief Executive, who seemed to have
everything going for him as he prosecuted a trumped-up little 'war' --
until one day, he came across -- A T-SHIRT! <RIP!> And his life
changed forever! <BONK!> Now he's about to find out <KLANG!> -- that
being attacked by a T-shirt <SCREECH!> -- is scarier than being told
that a plane was flown into the Pentagon! <BOUFFO!> It's non-stop
comedy from the makers of 'MY PAN PLAYS DOWN,' and 'IS OUR CHILDREN
LEARNING?', George 'W' is -- 'IN THE CROSS-HAIRS'! Rated PG-13."
"Heh-heh, George 'W' is a somewhat popular President with a Truth
Commission dogging his tail, when suddenly -- he finds himself in an
adult toy store! ('YOW!') Now his pants are going to high school in
the Carlsbad Caverns! (Eeeeyow!!!') And he's about to find out -- what
it really means -- to say 'Lez Be Friends'! George 'W' is -- A DILDO!
Rated NC-17."
Martedi
my question, which is: What are cross hairs? Somehow, I think I might
be sorry for asking, since it seems to evoke such a strong opinion from
discussion participants, and the SS and the school principal.
Doesn't wearing a t-shirt with writing on it come under the "Free Speech
Clause"?, just like contributing milliones of dollars to Republican soft
money coffers to elect members of the same party as el presidente (the
selected president from florida)?
martedi
Gary Ott
Ah! You would be the designated "change the subject" bimbot.
Gary Ott
news:3DFA91...@angelfire.com:
> I tried to read the posts on this subject, but did not find an answer
> to my question, which is: What are cross hairs? Somehow, I think I
> might be sorry for asking, since it seems to evoke such a strong
> opinion from discussion participants, and the SS and the school
> principal. Doesn't wearing a t-shirt with writing on it come under the
> "Free Speech Clause"?, just like contributing milliones of dollars to
> Republican soft money coffers to elect members of the same party as el
> presidente (the selected president from florida)?
> martedi
Crosshairs are the fine lines on a magnifying rifle sight, which cross in
the center of the field of vision. If all is correctly adjusted this
"crosshairs" will be exactly where a bullet fired from that rifle will
hit.
Thomas J. Paladino Jr.
> >>> >That is not funny.
>
> Sure it is!!!!
Not really. It is also in very poor taste. Though I suppose that someone of
your ilk wouldn't know about such things.
By the way, whether you agree or not, it is illegal.
> >>> They should let him spend some
> >>> > time in Gitmo with the other terrorists,
> >>> > and see if he changes his tune.
>
> Oh, now a T shirt makes one a terrorist?
> What a fraidy-cat!!!
'Fraidy-cat'? Again we see the obvious intellectual midget struggling to
express a point. Had you developed beyond the second grade, you would have
grasped the (seemingly) obvious factiousness of my statement.
> >>> 1) Given the times, it was stupid for the parents to let their kid go
> >>> out like that
> >>> 2) Cross hairs on w's head - that could be funny. Funnier would just
> >>> be a pic of W with "Not a moron" under it
> >>> 3) Time in a concentration camp for making fun of our idiot
> >>> president? You're a nazi.
> >>
> >>
> >> Making fun of the President isn't against the law. Threatening the
> >> life of the President is. Now, I may be old fashioned, but placing
> >> cross-hairs on a picture of the President's head seems to me to be
> >> threatening.
> >
> >
> >They have drugs for paranoia now. I understand they're pretty
> >efficacious. >> Brent
>
> Yeah, we all saw that look of panic, like a frightened
> rabbit on The Moron's face right before he scampered
> down one of his holes on 9-11.
Yes, that look of panic as he faced the country after it's worst attack in
history. You are really quite someting; I wonder how you would have reacted
under similar circumstances. I suspect that it would involve alcohol and a
white flag.
Panic, however, was not on the face of George W. Bush on 9/11; at least not
compared to the looks of panic that were on the faces of those in the World
Trade Center that morning. Especially those who had chosen to end their
lives by jumping, rather than succumb to the inferno. Or those who ran for
their lives up the west side highway as the second tower collapsed, and the
cloud of debris engulfed lower Manhattan. That was panic. I would know,
because you see, I was one of those people.
> I guess bin Laden was gunna throw Allah-guided
> camel shit balls at him.
Bra-vo. How terribly witty. And tasteful.
> And he KNOWS we all saw that.
I don't know what you saw, but most of the American people saw something
that made his approval ratings go through the roof...and stay there.
> Frightened, he turned a terrorist act into an act of war.
It wasn't? Sure seemed that way to me, and I was there. Furthermore, it is
reprehensible for you to attempt to diminish the enormity of the events of
9/11 for your own political purposes. You cannot possibly have any grasp of
what truly happened on 9/11 (or since) for you to even think about making
such reckless and blatently ignorant statements. Quite frankly, you should
be ashamed of yourself.
> Now he just wants to PUCH somebody.
Somebody should punch you, though I suspect that has happened many times
already. As for George W. Bush, he seems well in control of the situation.
Others think so as well; his approval ratings prove that.
> Now a T Shirt is a threat too!
> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
>
> Hey Republicans !!!???
>
> BOOOOOO!
>
> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
How mature. <sigh>
I do take comfort, however, in that fact that people like you are, in fact,
one of the main reasons that republicans keep winning elections, and the
democratic party is nearly in shambles. You hurt your own 'cause' with your
ignorance and disrespect. Keep up the good work.
Tempest
Martedi wrote:
>
> I tried to read the posts on this subject, but did not find an answer to
> my question, which is: What are cross hairs?
Cross-hairs are the marks you see when looking through a scope on a
rifle.
It can be an actual cross, a dot or a box with an X in it.
It's used to align your target with the known trajectory and distance
capabilities of your weapon.
--
Studebaker Hawk
<tpal...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>> >>> > That friggin kid got what he deserved. Cross-hairs?
>> >>> >That is not funny.
>> Sure it is!!!!
heeeheee heee!
>Not really. It is also in very poor taste. Though I suppose that
> someone of your ilk wouldn't know about such things.
My ilk? Meaning people with a sense of humor?
>By the way, whether you agree or not, it is illegal.
So we should put Jay Leno in a concentration camp too?
>By the way, whether you agree or not, it is illegal.
Where's that? Red China? South Afrika? Cuba?
You Damned Commies and Nazis. If you don't like
America, why don't you move out?
>> >>> They should let him spend some
>> >>> > time in Gitmo with the other terrorists,
>> >>> > and see if he changes his tune.
>> Oh, now a T shirt makes one a terrorist?
>> What a fraidy-cat!!!
>'Fraidy-cat'? Again we see the obvious intellectual midget struggling to
>express a point. Had you developed beyond the second grade, you would have
>grasped the (seemingly) obvious factiousness of my statement.
Gee Wally, do you think that means I should
run for president!?
>> >>> 2) Cross hairs on w's head - that could be funny. Funnier would just
>> >>> be a pic of W with "Not a moron" under it
Yeah!!!
Not an AWOL drunk or crackhead anymore neither!
>> >>> 3) Time in a concentration camp for making fun of our idiot
>> >>> president? You're a nazi.
Not all who voted for The Moron was a Nazi. But....
Why did all the Nazis and KKK vote for The Moron?
>> >> Making fun of the President isn't against the law. Threatening the
>> >> life of the President is. Now, I may be old fashioned, but placing
>> >> cross-hairs on a picture of the President's head seems to me to be
>> >> threatening.
I wouldn't call that old fashioned, I'd call that...well.
I'll bet you voted for The Moron!
See? It only SEEMS like you have no sense of humor.
heeeheee heee
>> >They have drugs for paranoia now. I understand they're pretty
>> >efficacious. >> Brent
>> Yeah, we all saw that look of panic, like a frightened
>> rabbit on The Moron's face right before he scampered
>> down one of his holes on 9-11.
>
>Yes, that look of panic as he faced the country after it's worst attack in
>history.
Duh...so the Moron's job is to panic when
terrorists attack?
Seee? You do have a sense of humor!
>You are really quite someting;
Why thank you.
> I wonder how you would have reacted
>under similar circumstances.
I think I would have reacted more like Ronald
Reagan would have. He's the guy who was joking
with reporters as he lay bleeding with an assasin's bullet
in him, remember? You know, more like a statesman,
and less like a frightened brat with a bloody nose. But
I'll bet you have no idea what I'm talking about, do you?
If fact, the Moron is the first president we've had since
the Great Depression who is not a statesman.
>Panic, however, was not on the face of George W. Bush on 9/11; at least not
>compared to the looks of panic that were on the faces of those in the World
>Trade Center that morning.
Duh, gee I wonder why? So that's your measure of a man?
That a safe and cozy man, a so-called "leader" doesn't look as
terrified as people who deserve to be, and that he's suposed to
be leading? Well, then no wonder he got your vote.
>Especially those who had chosen to end their
>lives by jumping, rather than succumb to the inferno.
Wow, that sure makes him brave! My hero.
>Or those who ran for
>their lives up the west side highway as the second tower collapsed, and the
>cloud of debris engulfed lower Manhattan. That was panic. I would know,
>because you see, I was one of those people.
So you were terrifed, and you now claim to tell us
you saw less panic on his face. Wow. Any port
in a storm, I guess.
>> I guess bin Laden was gunna throw Allah-guided
>> camel shit balls at him.
>
>Bra-vo. How terribly witty. And tasteful.
...and true. The Moron fulfilled bin Laden's wish,
he was" terrified." As in "terrorism." Get it?
...as in cowardly moron...get it? As one of the
mob he was supposed to be leading, get it?
>> And he KNOWS we all saw that.
>
>I don't know what you saw, but most of the American people saw something
>that made his approval ratings go through the roof...and stay there.
Nope. All they saw was somebody who was gunna fight
back. Big wow. Woulda happened to Daffy Duck if he
was president. "The Daffy Duck factor." Coincedence
>> Frightened, he turned a terrorist act into an act of war.
>
>It wasn't?
You do own a dictionary don't you?
A "war" is between nations.
"Terrorism" is not designed to win wars, as war-battles
are, they are designed to inflict terror.
>Sure seemed that way to me, and I was there.
Yeah, well "seemed" is not "is." Not that you dummys
ever did learn what the definition of "is" is. So we
can understand your confusion.
> Furthermore, it is
>reprehensible for you to attempt to diminish the enormity of the events of
>9/11 for your own political purposes.
Oh, mean by undoing what Bush did, which was to
amplify an act of terrorism into a war? (see dictionary)
For his own political purposes? I mean it WAS you
who pointed out his new-found political popularity.
> You cannot possibly have any grasp of
>what truly happened on 9/11 (or since) for you to even think about making
>such reckless and blatently ignorant statements.
Frankly, I'm getting tired of you guys milking the anguish
and destruction of 9-11for your own political purposes.
You were there. Right. While you watched Bush's face
on TV. Right.
>> Now he just wants to PUNCH somebody.
>> Now a T Shirt is a threat too!
>> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
>>
>> Hey Republicans !!!???
>>
>> BOOOOOO!
>>
>> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
>
>How mature. <sigh>
>
>I do take comfort, however, in that fact that people like you are, in fact,
>one of the main reasons that republicans keep winning elections,
In reality, it's "the Daffy Duck factor."
> and the
>democratic party is nearly in shambles. You hurt your own 'cause' with your
>ignorance and disrespect. Keep up the good work.
Frankly, I'm getting tired of you guys milking the anguish
and destruction of 9-11for your own political purposes.
You were there. Right. While you watched Bush's face
on TV. Right.
What a pompous ass.
Seawolf
"Studebaker Hawk" <Nospa...@home.edu> wrote in message
news:3dfbd7e2....@news.prodigy.net...
What does that prove? That only law abiding citizens voted for him?
Brent
Thomas J. Paladino Jr.
> >> >>> >That is not funny.
>
> >> Sure it is!!!!
>
> heeeheee heee!
>
> >Not really. It is also in very poor taste. Though I suppose that
> > someone of your ilk wouldn't know about such things.
>
> My ilk? Meaning people with a sense of humor?
Meaning people who are altogether without a sense of discretion or taste.
> >By the way, whether you agree or not, it is illegal.
>
> So we should put Jay Leno in a concentration camp too?
>
> >By the way, whether you agree or not, it is illegal.
>
> Where's that? Red China? South Afrika? Cuba?
> You Damned Commies and Nazis. If you don't like
> America, why don't you move out?
Nice try, though I believe that anyone who finds presidential assisination
humorous should find another country to live in.
> >> >>> They should let him spend some
> >> >>> > time in Gitmo with the other terrorists,
> >> >>> > and see if he changes his tune.
>
> >> Oh, now a T shirt makes one a terrorist?
> >> What a fraidy-cat!!!
>
> >'Fraidy-cat'? Again we see the obvious intellectual midget struggling to
> >express a point. Had you developed beyond the second grade, you would
have
> >grasped the (seemingly) obvious factiousness of my statement.
>
> Gee Wally, do you think that means I should
> run for president!?
It means that you can't detect humor or sarcasm when it involves actual
thought.
> >> >>> 2) Cross hairs on w's head - that could be funny. Funnier would
just
> >> >>> be a pic of W with "Not a moron" under it
>
> Yeah!!!
> Not an AWOL drunk or crackhead anymore neither!
I suppose that you would know.
> >> >>> 3) Time in a concentration camp for making fun of our idiot
> >> >>> president? You're a nazi.
>
> Not all who voted for The Moron was a Nazi. But....
> Why did all the Nazis and KKK vote for The Moron?
And you are getting this information from...? Find a poll or study on the
voting patterns of Nazi's, then you can possibly make a statement like that.
News Flash: The KKK and Nazi's are just as against Bush as Bin Laden is. He
is way to supportive of Israel for their tastes. Have a look at a KKK
website one day. But I suppose that little things like facts don't actually
interest you.
> >> >> Making fun of the President isn't against the law. Threatening the
> >> >> life of the President is. Now, I may be old fashioned, but placing
> >> >> cross-hairs on a picture of the President's head seems to me to be
> >> >> threatening.
>
> I wouldn't call that old fashioned, I'd call that...well.
> I'll bet you voted for The Moron!
I bet you didn't vote at all. Either way, you do more to show your own
intellectual defiencies by constantly repeating the word 'moron', than you
do to prove anything about Bush. You should find a thesaurus and a
dictonary, and try to develop an original thought.
> See? It only SEEMS like you have no sense of humor.
>
> heeeheee heee
And it really seems like you are on some kind of drug.
> >> >They have drugs for paranoia now. I understand they're pretty
> >> >efficacious. >> Brent
>
> >> Yeah, we all saw that look of panic, like a frightened
> >> rabbit on The Moron's face right before he scampered
> >> down one of his holes on 9-11.
> >
> >Yes, that look of panic as he faced the country after it's worst attack
in
> >history.
>
> Duh...so the Moron's job is to panic when
> terrorists attack?
Ummm, no, but Bush is a human being, and humans have emotion. Who are you to
judge him when you (or anyone else, for that matter) have never been in that
situation? You display yourself, with every word you write, to be a terribly
naive and thoughtless individual.
> Seee? You do have a sense of humor!
>
> >You are really quite someting;
>
> Why thank you.
It wasn't a compliment, dimwit.
> > I wonder how you would have reacted
> >under similar circumstances.
>
> I think I would have reacted more like Ronald
> Reagan would have. He's the guy who was joking
> with reporters as he lay bleeding with an assasin's bullet
> in him, remember? You know, more like a statesman,
> and less like a frightened brat with a bloody nose. But
> I'll bet you have no idea what I'm talking about, do you?
George W. Bush is no Ronald Reagan, but then few are. I would however,
suspect that you are in fact as far from Reagan as one could possibly be.
However, with that having been said, I can tell you that while Reagan's
attempted assisination was indeed a national tradgedy, it was one on a more
personal level than 9/11 was to Bush. It is (relatively) easy to laugh and
joke at ones own injury or potential demise, because it ultimately only
effects the individual, and the individual is in control. It is quite
another situation when faced with the death of thousands of individuals
(whom you are no less responsible for than your own self), and not be able
to take any immediate action to either help or retailiate. Joking and
lightheartedness would have been utterly inappropriate (though you seem to
have no ability to grasp that concept). It would be a difficult situation
for anyone, including Reagan. I would alo suspect that George W. Bush would
have easily traded a few bullets for 9/11 any day.
> If fact, the Moron is the first president we've had since
> the Great Depression who is not a statesman.
That is wholly false. Reagan was arguably the greatest statesmen of the 20th
century, though the bottom of the barrel belongs to Clinton. Bush is one
hundred times the statesmen Clinton could ever dream to be.
> >Panic, however, was not on the face of George W. Bush on 9/11; at least
not
> >compared to the looks of panic that were on the faces of those in the
World
> >Trade Center that morning.
>
> Duh, gee I wonder why? So that's your measure of a man?
> That a safe and cozy man, a so-called "leader" doesn't look as
> terrified as people who deserve to be, and that he's suposed to
> be leading? Well, then no wonder he got your vote.
No, simply that Bush was not terrified at all just very angry. And rightly
so.
> >Especially those who had chosen to end their
> >lives by jumping, rather than succumb to the inferno.
>
> Wow, that sure makes him brave! My hero.
It had nothing to do with him, and if you had any reading comprehension
skills at all, you would grasp the larger picture that I am painting here.
> >Or those who ran for
> >their lives up the west side highway as the second tower collapsed, and
the
> >cloud of debris engulfed lower Manhattan. That was panic. I would know,
> >because you see, I was one of those people.
>
> So you were terrifed, and you now claim to tell us
> you saw less panic on his face. Wow. Any port
> in a storm, I guess.
No, I saw what real panic looked like, and it wasn't on Bush's face at all.
> >> I guess bin Laden was gunna throw Allah-guided
> >> camel shit balls at him.
> >
> >Bra-vo. How terribly witty. And tasteful.
>
> ...and true. The Moron fulfilled bin Laden's wish,
> he was" terrified." As in "terrorism." Get it?
> ...as in cowardly moron...get it? As one of the
> mob he was supposed to be leading, get it?
No. Neither do you, apparantly.
> >> And he KNOWS we all saw that.
> >
> >I don't know what you saw, but most of the American people saw something
> >that made his approval ratings go through the roof...and stay there.
>
> Nope. All they saw was somebody who was gunna fight
> back. Big wow. Woulda happened to Daffy Duck if he
> was president. "The Daffy Duck factor." Coincedence
Not really. Maybe at first, but it dosen't explain his enduring poll
numbers. Painful though it may be for you, people view Bush as a true
leader, and someone who isn't afraid to stand up for our country, especially
after eight years of Clinton's appeasment.
> >> Frightened, he turned a terrorist act into an act of war.
> >
> >It wasn't?
>
> You do own a dictionary don't you?
> A "war" is between nations.
> "Terrorism" is not designed to win wars, as war-battles
> are, they are designed to inflict terror.
I've got news for you, the dictonaries need to be re-written on this one. It
is this kind of thinking that allowed us to be attacked in the first place.
> >Sure seemed that way to me, and I was there.
>
> Yeah, well "seemed" is not "is." Not that you dummys
> ever did learn what the definition of "is" is. So we
> can understand your confusion.
I try not to speak in absolute terms, because there is no such thing as an
absolute (most of the time). Had you a better grasp on the English language,
you would understand this technique.
> > Furthermore, it is
> >reprehensible for you to attempt to diminish the enormity of the events
of
> >9/11 for your own political purposes.
>
> Oh, mean by undoing what Bush did, which was to
> amplify an act of terrorism into a war? (see dictionary)
> For his own political purposes? I mean it WAS you
> who pointed out his new-found political popularity.
The attacks didn't make him popular. His political popularity resulted from
his words and actions after the attacks. Its well over a year later and he
still has high marks. That is not a fluke, it is a result of his policy post
9/11. He rightly called the attack an act of war, and treated it as such.
The people obviously agree. Case closed. Quoting outdated terms from the
dictonary and whining about how unfair it is won't do you any good.
> > You cannot possibly have any grasp of
> >what truly happened on 9/11 (or since) for you to even think about making
> >such reckless and blatently ignorant statements.
>
> Frankly, I'm getting tired of you guys milking the anguish
> and destruction of 9-11for your own political purposes.
> You were there. Right. While you watched Bush's face
> on TV. Right.
It wasn't replayed a hundred million times over the course of the day and
week? I did find my way to a television eventually.
> >> Now he just wants to PUNCH somebody.
> >> Now a T Shirt is a threat too!
> >> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
> >>
> >> Hey Republicans !!!???
> >>
> >> BOOOOOO!
> >>
> >> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
> >
> >How mature. <sigh>
> >
> >I do take comfort, however, in that fact that people like you are, in
fact,
> >one of the main reasons that republicans keep winning elections,
>
> In reality, it's "the Daffy Duck factor."
Not even close....but feel free to keep thinking that, as it is sure to
bring your party plenty of political losses in the future. Still
misunderestimating. Oh well.
> > and the
> >democratic party is nearly in shambles. You hurt your own 'cause' with
your
> >ignorance and disrespect. Keep up the good work.
>
> Frankly, I'm getting tired of you guys milking the anguish
> and destruction of 9-11for your own political purposes.
> You were there. Right. While you watched Bush's face
> on TV. Right.
I live at 41 River Terrace (I will omit the apt. number for obvious
reasons), almost directly accross the street from the WTC site. My
girlfriend and I were awoken to the first jet hitting the tower, and we
immediately looked out the window, and saw the smoking hole in the north
tower. We then began to get dresssed, and turned on the TV, where the local
news was reporting a plane crash. We watched for another little bit, then
saw the second plane. At this point the TV went out. The building fire alarm
sounded, and the intercom system told us to evacuate immediately. We made
our way downstairs (34 floors), and the FBI was already everywhere. As we
walked out of the building, the south tower began to fall, and everyone ran
in a mob directly up the west side highway. Twenty minutes or so later, we
saw the north tower fall in the distance. Eventually we walked all the way
up to 58th street, where we checked into the Hudson Hotel (on 58th and 7th)
where we watched the rest of the day's events unfold. We remained there for
more than a month, until they let us back into the building at the end of
October.
> What a pompous ass.
Look, you are obviously pretty dumb, so I am not going to waste much more
time on this, but I can assure you that you have this whole thing perfectly
backwards. Bush is a president that people like and trust. His policies are
popular and his actions sound. Simply calling him 'dumb' does more harm to
your side than it ever could to harm Bush, partially because it is just not
true. You guys lost an election because of such foolishness. What else is it
going to take?
I may be pompous, but at least I'm right.
Doug Bashford
In <3DFA1061...@hotMOVEmail.com>
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Rich Travsky wrote about:
Re: T-Shirt is a potential threat to bush
pretzels? I don't get it.
What did I miss?
Gary Ott
@news.psnw.com:
Bush choked on a pretzel (or so we were told) last year. It got a bit
worrisome, as he fell off a (chair? sofa?).
>
>
Other Tom
> president." The picture also showed cross-hairs on the Bush's forehead.
The promotion of sedition and a death threat
As much a threat as publishing names of abortion doctors with 'dead or
alive' on them?
I do recall a soldier once getting 'article 15'ed for using the phrase
"where's Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?" Of course, Nixon was
president then, so you leftists would have supported that one as well.
Other Tom;
PS
Justice: A legal decision in your favor.
Mark Cresky
<Thoma...@unisys.nospam.com> wrote:
> The promotion of sedition and a death threat
>
> As much a threat as publishing names of abortion doctors with 'dead or
>alive' on them?
> I do recall a soldier once getting 'article 15'ed for using the phrase
>"where's Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?" Of course, Nixon was
>president then, so you leftists would have supported that one as well.
> Other Tom;
>PS
> Justice: A legal decision in your favor.
Death threats to the Clintons have been and are posted to this day
with regularity on freerepublic.com.
I wonder if the SS ever visited Jesse Helms?
Tempest
The most interesting part of the incident is that his two dogs just sat
and looked at him. They didn't go to him or anything.
D.G. Porter
Think of their conditioning. Many dogs detest the smell of liquor.
So Smirk falls on his ass a few dozen times and they go up to sniff him.
"BLEAH!!!"
So the pretzel attacked him - dogs just sit there -- "He's doing that
drunk thing again!"
Doug Bashford
In <J%UK9.253862$Up6.44...@twister.nyc.rr.com>
about: Re: T-Shirt is a potential threat to bush
>> >> Yeah, we all saw that look of panic, like a frightened
>> >> rabbit on The Moron's face right before he scampered
>> >> down one of his holes on 9-11.
Thomas J. Paladino Jr.:
>> >Yes, that look of panic as he faced the country after
>> >it's worst attack in history.
Yeah, some hijackers who at the height of their power
had three commercial airplanes to crash. Big wow.
Bush was 1,000 miles away, personally protected by
the most powerful military in the world, in the fanciest
military jet in the world.
And when he came on TV, everybody knew that, and that
it was just some camel jockies, and all the airplanes
in the USA had been grounded. And still he ran, and
he hid.
...after calling an act of pure terrorism, an act
of war.
>> Duh...so The Moron's job is to panic when
>> terrorists attack?
>Ummm, no, but Bush is a human being, and humans have emotion.
One can only imagine what he would have done if
her were in Washington at the time. Fient?
Crap his pants?
And what if it had been 100 nukes coming down?
This is obviously not presidential material.
Character matters.
Lying about your pee-pee to an out of
line judge doesn't.
> Who are you to judge him when you
>(or anyone else, for that matter) have never been in that
>situation? You display yourself, with every word you write,
>to be a terribly naive and thoughtless individual.
And you display in every word you write that you
are a partisan tailwagger, more interested in party
politics than the good of the nation.
>> > I wonder how you would have reacted
>> >under similar circumstances.
>>
>> I think I would have reacted more like Ronald
>> Reagan would have. He's the guy who was joking
>> with reporters as he lay bleeding with an assasin's bullet
>> in him, remember? You know, more like a statesman,
>> and less like a frightened brat with a bloody nose. But
>> I'll bet you have no idea what I'm talking about, do you?
>
>George W. Bush is no Ronald Reagan, but then few are.
>However, with that having been said, I can tell you that while Reagan's
>attempted assisination was indeed a national tradgedy, it was one on a more
>personal level than 9/11 was to Bush. It is (relatively) easy to laugh and
>joke at ones own injury or potential demise, because it ultimately only
>effects the individual, and the individual is in control.
You are probably right, but are taking only one example
of statesmanship. You appear to be arguing that Bush
both is, and isn't a Reagan. Your grasping at straws
shows.
>> If fact, the Moron is the first president we've had since
>> the Great Depression who is not a statesman.
>
> Bush is one hundred times the statesmen Clinton
> could ever dream to be.
The facts simply don't bear that out. Bush is
a pathological liar about the whole Arabian
pennensula, most recently, Iraq. We are not
talking about penis-lies to a court, we are talking
HUGE lies to America and the world about hundreds of
billions of American taxpayer dollars and
spilled American blood, and tens of thousands
of dead civilians...if all goes well. There
is no comparison.
>> >Panic, however, was not on the face of George W. Bush on 9/11; at least
>not
>> >compared to the looks of panic that were on the faces of those in the
>World
>> >Trade Center that morning.
>>
>> Duh, gee I wonder why? So that's your measure of a man?
>> That a safe and cozy man, a so-called "leader" doesn't look as
>> terrified as people who deserve to be, and that he's suposed to
>> be leading? Well, then no wonder he got your vote.
>
>No, simply that Bush was not terrified at all just very angry.
>And rightly >so.
Make up your mind. You said
Thomas J. Paladino Jr.:
>> >Yes, that look of panic as he faced the country after
>> >it's worst attack in history.
But "that look of panic" is immaterial. What matters
is not what was on his face. What matters is how
he acted. He paniced. He called an act of terrorism
an act of war. Then he ran to hide in a hole when
he was clearly in no danger. ...just for starters.
And it seems he's been trying to save face ever since,
by infact going to war, now in Iraq, seemingly because
he failed to kill bin Laden. The guy is acting like
a little kid.
>> >> I guess bin Laden was gunna throw Allah-guided
>> >> camel shit balls at him.
>> >
>> >Bra-vo. How terribly witty. And tasteful.
You need to get out more. You call that tasteless!?
Try this:
* Of course he doesn't want arms inspectors in Iraq.
* Just like he didn't want bin Laden when the Taliban
* offered to turn him over. Bush needs his 'boogie men',
* without then he's nothing more then the ignorant
* little shit stain so many of us see.
* -- Harrison X. Numbugger 09 Sep 2002
Re: Will Duhbya MILK 9-11 -- to push his IRAQ ATTAQ ??
>> ...and true. The Moron fulfilled bin Laden's wish,
>> he was" terrified." As in "terrorism." Get it?
>> ...as in cowardly moron...get it? As one of the
>> mob he was supposed to be leading, get it?
>> >I don't know what you saw, but most of the American people saw something
>> >that made his approval ratings go through the roof...and stay there.
>>
>> Nope. All they saw was somebody who was gunna fight
>> back. Big wow. Woulda happened to Daffy Duck if he
>> was president. "The Daffy Duck factor." Coincedence
>
>Not really. Maybe at first, but it dosen't explain his enduring poll
>numbers.
Why wouldn't it?
>> >> Frightened, he turned a terrorist act into an act of war.
>> >
>> >It wasn't?
>>
>> You do own a dictionary don't you?
>> A "war" is between nations.
>> "Terrorism" is not designed to win wars, as war-battles
>> are, they are designed to inflict terror.
>
>I've got news for you, the dictonaries need to be
>re-written on this one.
It's always amusing when your kind, those so deparate
to manufacture a hero they can bootlick, will call
even the dictionary wrong to make their case.
Nobody buys it, guy.
The proper response should have been: This hidious
act of terrorism will be met with the full force
of the many powers of the United States.
...or some such.
No need to re-write the dictionary.
No need to lie. He lied just because...
1) he could, or:
2) he had paniced, or
3) he is stupid (but I think his job required he
know the meaning of this "big" word).
* What is Terrorism?
* There happen to be some easy answers to this. There is an
* official definition. You can find it in the US code or in US army
* manuals. A brief statement of it taken from a US army manual, is
* fair enough, is that terror is the calculated use of violence or
* the threat of violence to attain political or religious
* ideological goals through intimidation, coercion, or instilling
* fear. That’s terrorism. The problem is that it can’t be
* accepted because if you accept that, all the wrong consequences
* follow.
* But there’s a problem. If you use the official definition of
* terrorism in the comprehensive treaty you are going to get
* completely the wrong results. So that can’t be done. In fact, it
* is even worse than that. If you take a look at the definition of
* Low Intensity Warfare which is official US policy you find that
* it is a very close paraphrase of what I just read. In fact, Low
* Intensity Conflict is just another name for terrorism. That’s why
* all countries, as far as I know, call whatever horrendous acts
* they are carrying out, counter terrorism. We happen to call it
* Counter Insurgency or Low Intensity Conflict. So that’s a serious
* problem. You can’t use the actual definitions. You’ve got to
* carefully find a definition that doesn’t have all the wrong
* consequences.
* Why did the United States and Israel Vote Against a Major
* Resolution Condemning Terrorism?
AN EVENING WITH NOAM CHOMSKY
The New War Against Terror
October 18, 2001 - Transcribed from audio
recorded at The Technology & Culture Forum at MIT
from: http://www.zmag.org/GlobalWatch/chomskymit.htm
The Talk (audio link)
http://web.mit.edu/tac/www/chomsky-18oct01-16k.ram
>It is this kind of thinking
>that allowed us to be attacked in the first place.
How so? I find it a rare case when the Engish
language is insuffienct for any given concept,
no matter its complexity.
--Doug
Doug Bashford
In <J%UK9.253862$Up6.44...@twister.nyc.rr.com>
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 06:08:41 GMT, "Thomas J. Paladino Jr."
<tpal...@nyc.rr.com> wrote about:
..........snip
>> >> Frightened, he turned a terrorist act into an act of war.
>> >
>> >It wasn't?
>>
>> You do own a dictionary don't you?
>> A "war" is between nations.
>> "Terrorism" is not designed to win wars, as war-battles
>> are, they are designed to inflict terror.
>
>I've got news for you, the dictonaries need to be re-written on this one. It
>is this kind of thinking that allowed us to be attacked in the first place.
........snip drool
"Thomas J. Paladino Jr.":
>> > Furthermore, it is
>> >reprehensible for you to attempt to diminish the enormity of the events
>of
>> >9/11 for your own political purposes.
>> Oh, mean by undoing what Bush did, which was to
>> amplify an act of terrorism into a war? (see dictionary)
>> For his own political purposes? I mean it WAS you
>> who pointed out his new-found political popularity.
> He rightly called the attack an act of war, and treated it as such.
Wrong. Acts of terrorism don't get much more pure
than that one. Nor is there any reason not to treat
one with great vigor. But only kids today call that,
and Viet Nam, or Korea, "wars." They were "police
actions." And Afghanistan was no Viet Nam. I guess
you kids feel left out? "War on Drugs," etc?
>The people obviously agree. Case closed.
> Quoting outdated terms from the
>dictonary and whining about how unfair it is won't do you any good.
I didn't notice any whining, but I do notice you
acting like a mental midget. "outdated terms from the
dictonary?" Pu-leeez! Next time, try a little mental
integrity. Work with the tools you have, which might not
be much, but you will find less ridicule from the world
than if you try to wish your world view onto reality
by the sheer force of your squirming "wanna."
One thing Bush has that you don't is a one-way forum
and millions of tailwaggers who submit, and millions
more who simply respect his office too much to call
a spade a spade.
>> Frankly, I'm getting tired of you guys milking the anguish
>> and destruction of 9-11for your own political purposes.
>> You were there. Right. While you watched Bush's face
>> on TV. Right.
>
>It wasn't replayed a hundred million times over the course of the day and
>week? I did find my way to a television eventually.
>
>
>> >> Now he just wants to PUNCH somebody.
>> >> Now a T Shirt is a threat too!
>> >> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
>> >>
>> >> Hey Republicans !!!???
>> >>
>> >> BOOOOOO!
>> >>
>> >> BWAAAA HA HAaaaaaaaaaaaa HA!!!!
>> >
>> >How mature. <sigh>
No, but it is pretty funny. On-topic, too.
BOOOO!!!!
.....snip drool
>> Frankly, I'm getting tired of you guys milking the anguish
>> and destruction of 9-11for your own political purposes.
>> You were there. Right. While you watched Bush's face
>> on TV. Right.
>
>I live at 41 River Terrace (I will omit the apt. number for obvious
>reasons), almost directly accross the street from the WTC site. My
{and you were evacuated, etc..ran around town]
Well, in this context, much of the world had a better
view of it and Bush, cause we saw it in real time. By the
time of his panicy speech-and-go-hide, we knew it was
a terrorist attack, we knew it was probably bin Laden
behind the hijackers, and we knew it was over, it was safe,
that all the planes had been grounded.
Half of America's jaw dropped when he said it was
an act of war. We were expecting him to be reassuring,
to say the threat was over. The rest were thinking
"like War on Drugs." Not that he would run and go hide
for another x hours.
Seeing it in re-runs...did you know all that?
--Doug