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Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do.

Our President is a low life
__________________________________________________

Obama supports gay marriage: How will it affect his re-election
campaign?

By Olivier Knox
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-supports-gay-marriage-affect-election-campaign-185836746.html

President Barack Obama's history-making embrace of gay marriage could
send far-reaching political aftershocks through a presidential
campaign defined by voter concerns about the economy but likely
decided by slivers of the electorate in a handful of battleground
states.

"The politics, it's not clear how they cut in some places that are
going to be pretty important in this electoral map. It may hurt me,"
Obama told Robin Roberts of ABC News in an exclusive interview
Wednesday as he announced his change of heart. "I believe marriage is
a relationship between a man and a woman," presumptive Republican
nominee Mitt Romney said as he campaigned in Oklahoma.

A Democratic senator who supports Obama's re-election as well as gay
marriage told Yahoo News that the president could face "significant
electoral risk" if his announcement is merely a check-the-box exercise
with no follow-through.

"If the president simply makes an important commitment to equality and
moves on, and does not challenge the network of people nationally,
activists and others, who favor marriage equality, to speak up from
now through the election, he is taking a significant electoral risk,"
said the senator, who spoke on the condition that he not be identified
by name.

"When you move from 'civil union' to the word 'marriage,' it reaches
people differently," the senator said in a telephone interview,
warning that highly motivated foes of gay marriage will unleash a
campaign of "public speeches, sermons, newsletters, websites, that
will darkly suggest a negative future."

Obama echoed that sentiment, telling ABC News: "I had hesitated on gay
marriage in part because I thought civil unions would be sufficient,
that that was something that would give people hospital visitation
rights and other elements that we take for granted, and I was
sensitive to the fact that for a lot of people, you know, the word
'marriage' was something that evokes very powerful traditions,
religious beliefs, and so forth."

Richard Socarides, a leading gay activist who served as President Bill
Clinton's top adviser on issues like same-sex marriage, said Obama
"can help build a national consensus."

"Nobody expects the president to make this a central feature of his
presidency, but it is an important issue," Socarides told Yahoo News
by telephone.

Other Obama supporters pointed to a Gallup national poll, released
Tuesday, showing that the country has been "evolving" on the issue
along with the president.

The public opposed gay marriage by a lopsided margin of 68 percent to
27 percent when Gallup first asked the question in 1996. In 2012, for
just the second year, a narrow majority of 50 percent favored making
it legal, with 48 percent against. (The margin of error was plus or
minus 3 percentage points.) Independent voters were strongly in favor,
57 percent to 40 percent, which on the surface would seem to help the
embattled incumbent.

In what both sides expect to be a hotly contested election, the
outcome could turn on relatively few voters in up-for-grabs
states—like North Carolina, which voted 61 percent to 39 percent
Tuesday to adopt a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage and
civil unions. Obama beat John McCain there by just 13,692 ballots in
2008, and he leads Mitt Romney by 2.4 percentage points according to a
Real Clear Politics average of polls.

"It was important for me, given how much attention this issue was
getting—both here in Washington but elsewhere—for me to go ahead,
let's be clear, here's what I believe," Obama told ABC News.

"But I'm not going to be spending most of my time talking about this,
because frankly my job as president right now, my biggest priority, is
to make sure that we're growing the economy, that we're putting people
back to work, that we're managing the draw-down in Afghanistan
effectively," he said. "Those are the things that I'm going to focus
on."

One in 6 of the Obama campaign's "bundlers"—who corral big money
donors—is gay, according to the Washington Post.

There is little evidence to support the oft-repeated claim that coming
out in favor of gay marriage will cost Obama much support among black
voters.

But political analysts also point to working-class, white, religious
voters in pivotal states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, and
conservative-leaning independents in other important states like Iowa
and Nevada as potentially put off by Obama's new position.



[Related: Join the debate about gay marriage]

"African-American voters, who tend to be less sympathetic to gay
marriage than white voters, are very enthused about Obama and, I
think, this won't change that," said Ohio State University political
science professor Paul Allen Beck .

"But the question in places like Ohio will be how this affects
blue-collar white voters who might otherwise be predisposed to vote
Democratic. For some of them, particularly the ones who are more
deeply religious, this could be important," Beck told Yahoo News.

"For almost all Americans, this won't be directly a factor in
November. But elections are won and lost at the margins, especially in
Ohio," Beck said.

Pennsylvania Democratic Sen. Bob Casey's re-election fight highlights
the difficult balancing act for politicians in swing states. Casey
opposes gay marriage but favors allowing civil unions. His Republican
opponent, Tom Smith, would favor a constitutional amendment defining
marriage as between a man and a woman, but would not support a ban on
civil unions, Smith's campaign manager Jim Conroy told Yahoo News by
telephone.

But the Obama campaign may have calculated that the president's
waffling—it could no longer be dubbed "Clintonian" after Bill Clinton
actively campaigned against the North Carolina amendment—would tarnish
his "hope and change" brand and dampen enthusiasm among liberal
Democrats, young voters and single women, all key parts of his winning
coalition in 2008.

"They ripped off the Band-Aid, didn't they?" a Democratic
congressional aide told Yahoo News, saying that Vice President Joe
Biden's endorsement of same-sex marriage on "Meet The Press" Sunday
had forced the White House to confront "head-on" an issue it had hoped
not to take up.

Speaking to reporters after a campaign event in Oklahoma City, Romney
said his position on same sex marriage was unchanged.

"I have the same view on marriage that I had when I was governor. I
believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman," Romney
said. "I have the same view I've had since, well, running for office."

Conservative activist Ralph Reed, now head of the Faith And Freedom
Coalition, predicted that Obama's decision would fire up conservative
voters.

"This is an unanticipated gift to the Romney campaign. It is certain
to fuel a record turnout of voters of faith to the polls this
November," he said in a statement on the group's Facebook page.

And Brad Dayspring, a shrewd former aide to House Republican Majority
Leader Eric Cantor now advising a conservative super PAC, accused
Obama of trying to use a "culture war" to distract voters from the
sour economy.

"Once again the President refuses to put economy and jobs first. All
of our focus should start there," Dayspring said on Twitter.

In 1996, Obama said on a campaign questionnaire in Illinois, "I favor
legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit
such marriages." White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer
later disavowed that statement, saying "someone else, not the
president" had filled it out.

As president, Obama signed a law repealing the "don't ask, don't tell"
ban on openly gay servicemembers, and ordered his administration to
stop defending in court the Defense of Marriage Act, which prohibits
the federal government from recognizing same-sex unions.

"My feelings about this are constantly evolving," Obama told reporters
at a press conference one month after Republicans romped in the
November 2010 midterm elections.

"I struggle with this. I have friends, I have people who work for me,
who are in powerful, strong, long-lasting gay or lesbian unions. And
they are extraordinary people, and this is something that means a lot
to them and they care deeply about," Obama said.

He went on to say: "At this point, what I've said is, is that my
baseline is a strong civil union that provides them the protections
and the legal rights that married couples have. And I think—and I
think that's the right thing to do. But I recognize that from their
perspective it is not enough, and I think is something that we're
going to continue to debate and I personally am going to continue to
wrestle with going forward."

People in Ohio have been "evolving" on the issue, too, said Beck, the
political scientist. Ohio "public opinion probably has changed, as it
has nationally," he said.

But "how much it has changed, I don't know."

CB
By their fruits you shall know them--The White House and Christ
Tuesday, April 26, 2011

In Matthew 7:15-16, Jesus warns, "Beware of false prophets, which come
to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye
shall know them by their fruits."
http://prophecyfrombillwilsontoday.blogspot.com/2011/04/by-their-fruits-you-shall-know-them.html

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<C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

>Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
>It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
>the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do...

... Ellen DeGeneres and the pig, Bill Maher

wy

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On May 10, 11:08 am, "C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
> It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
> the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do.
>
> Our President is a low life


I think you'd be better off living in a cave with your new best
friends - bats.

emoneyjoe

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On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:12:49 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
<C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:08:52 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
>>It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
>>the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do...
>
>... Ellen DeGeneres and the pig, Bill Maher
[snip]

You just ruined my day.







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On Thu, 10 May 2012 12:11:10 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:12:49 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:08:52 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
>><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
>>>It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
>>>the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do...
>>
>>... Ellen DeGeneres and the pig, Bill Maher
>[snip]
>
> You just ruined my day.


Sorry but Oboobuh has to be exposed for the low life he 'be'

CB
By their fruits you shall know them--The White House and Christ
Tuesday, April 26, 2011

In Matthew 7:15-16, Jesus warns, "Beware of false prophets, which come
to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye
shall know them by their fruits."
http://prophecyfrombillwilsontoday.blogspot.com/2011/04/by-their-fruits-you-shall-know-them.html

Compare the above with...

Keynesian economics 'is' at work by Obama the Marxist in sheep's
clothing.

Fabian/Keynesian coat of arms, a wolf in sheeps clothing
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/5061156284_476ecafd07_m.jpg

The whole Fabian stain window
http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/FabianWindow-1.jpg

"Obama didn’t just have a team of Keynesians. He had the Keynesian
all-star team"
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=We+Are+All+Keynesians+Now&view=detail&id=F42464A667E9DE1A569CAB0C1356878EBA5D420F&first=30&FORM=IDFRIR

RichTravsky

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"C...@PrayForMe.com" wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 May 2012 12:11:10 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:12:49 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> ><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:08:52 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
> >>>It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
> >>>the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do...
> >>
> >>... Ellen DeGeneres and the pig, Bill Maher
> >[snip]
> >
> > You just ruined my day.
>
> Sorry but Oboobuh has to be exposed for the low life he 'be'

You bigots should get a room

RT

emoneyjoe

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Bigots don't do anything like you do to
need a room, why do you always think like
that?






C...@prayforme.com

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On Sat, 12 May 2012 07:18:29 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 12 May 2012 00:49:04 -0600, RichTravsky
><traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
>>"C...@PrayForMe.com" wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 12:11:10 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:12:49 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
>>> ><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:08:52 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
>>> >><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
>>> >>>It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
>>> >>>the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do...
>>> >>
>>> >>... Ellen DeGeneres and the pig, Bill Maher
>>> >[snip]
>>> >
>>> > You just ruined my day.
>>>
>>> Sorry but Oboobuh has to be exposed for the low life he 'be'
>>
>>You bigots should get a room
>>
>>RT
>
> Bigots don't do anything like you do to
>need a room, why do you always think like
>that?

Because he's a member of the homo mafia. He settled for the first one
willing rather than waiting for the one he wanted.

Homosexual relationships are born out of familiarity. Give in to lust
at an early age and it's usually with the first person willing, then
becomes homosexual out of convenience.

After a few homosexual hookups, relationships with the opposite sex
becomes disfunctional and awkward because of guilt. The subconscious
knows instinctively that homosexual behavior is a sin and a world of
dillusion is built to deal with it.

One thing homos are good at is suppressing their guilt by lashing out
at the Right who know the difference between Right and Wrong.

RichTravsky

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emoneyjoe wrote:
> On Sat, 12 May 2012 00:49:04 -0600, RichTravsky
> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >"C...@PrayForMe.com" wrote:
> >> On Thu, 10 May 2012 12:11:10 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
> >> >On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:12:49 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >> ><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:08:52 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >> >><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
> >> >>>It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
> >> >>>the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do...
> >> >>
> >> >>... Ellen DeGeneres and the pig, Bill Maher
> >> >[snip]
> >> >
> >> > You just ruined my day.
> >>
> >> Sorry but Oboobuh has to be exposed for the low life he 'be'
> >
> >You bigots should get a room
>
> Bigots don't do anything like you do to
> need a room, why do you always think like
> that?

I think you hurt your boyfriend's feelings...

RT

RichTravsky

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I doubted my masculinity around the age of 12/13 but disciplined my
homonal rage/lust and waited for the one I really wanted, a chick, not
a... - CB, coming out of the closet

emoneyjoe

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I don't have a boyfriend, oh, don't tell me
your feelings are hurt, I am blocking this thread!







C...@prayforme.com

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On Sun, 13 May 2012 22:55:04 -0600, RichTravsky
Such an innocent time, a time of confusion. Despite the temptations of
homo behavior I resisted and developted healthy relationships. You on
the other hand went queer, your wife left you and took your dojo

http://www.laramiekempo.com/assets/gallery/IMG8775.JPG
Hey, you got the fist of a union thug down pat!


>
>
>> Homosexual relationships are born out of familiarity. Give in to lust
>> at an early age and it's usually with the first person willing, then
>> becomes homosexual out of convenience.
>>
>> After a few homosexual hookups, relationships with the opposite sex
>> becomes disfunctional and awkward because of guilt. The subconscious
>> knows instinctively that homosexual behavior is a sin and a world of
>> dillusion is built to deal with it.
>>
>> One thing homos are good at is suppressing their guilt by lashing out
>> at the Right who know the difference between Right and Wrong.

Save that quote

RichTravsky

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> I don't have a boyfriend, oh, don't tell me

No wonder you're cranky. CB stood you up.

emoneyjoe

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On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:13:00 -0600, RichTravsky
Why are leftist liberals so obsessed with perverted
gay thoughts?

And why did they vote for a candidate that had
been nothing but an activist, apparently they like
controversy and adversity.







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emoneyjoe

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On Wed, 16 May 2012 08:41:44 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Wed, 16 May 2012 03:34:25 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Why are leftist liberals so obsessed with perverted
>>gay thoughts?
>
>We're not

Sorry to hear you are a leftist. :-)


>WE aren't the ones who have now introduced and/or passed at least 160
>pieces of legislation statewide or federally related to denial of
>rights of women and gay citizens, JoeLoon
>
>You and your side do.


Do you have a list?

And are all of those rights now the same for all
people, I see no reason for any group to have any
special rights.







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emoneyjoe

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On Wed, 16 May 2012 11:18:23 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Wed, 16 May 2012 12:07:30 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> And are all of those rights now the same for all
>>people, I see no reason for any group to have any
>>special rights.
>
>You're as balmy as they come
>
>Women do not have the same rights and protections under the law.

A non-specific claim.

>They
>are paid less,

Not all men make the same, and there are many jobs
women have where they need a man to do lifting, etc.
There are loads of women my age that were paid
lots more than me, for essentially the same work, but
I don't claim discrimination.


>receive less benefits, have more regulations and laws
>dictating to them how they must live.

I don't know where you are going with this,
I always thought women had it pretty nice with
men taking them places and giving them gifts.


>Blacks are discriminated against, are paid less, have virtually no
>power to counter white money and power

And you realize laws are not the answer to that.


>Non-heterosexual CITIZENS do not have the same rights as ALL other
>citizens in Civil law, marriage among them

And you call me balmy.


>It is NOT a "Special right" to rid the legal system of discrimination
>that stops their equality.

It sure is, else there would not be legislation
concerning it.


I am trying to guess what the liberals will come
up with next.







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On Wed, 16 May 2012 18:41:20 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Wed, 16 May 2012 17:20:48 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 16 May 2012 11:18:23 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 16 May 2012 12:07:30 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> And are all of those rights now the same for all
>>>>people, I see no reason for any group to have any
>>>>special rights.
>>>
>>>You're as balmy as they come
>>>
>>>Women do not have the same rights and protections under the law.
>>
>> A non-specific claim.
>
>As a male citizen---is anyone enacting laws to stick a probe up your
>ass, JoeLoon?
>
>>>They
>>>are paid less,
>>
>> Not all men make the same,
>
>The issue is women being paid less for the identical work done by a
>man. Try and keep up.
>
>>
>>
>>>receive less benefits, have more regulations and laws
>>>dictating to them how they must live.
>>
>> I don't know where you are going with this,
>>I always thought women had it pretty nice with
>>men taking them places and giving them gifts.
>
>THerein lies you idiotic 19th century "values" that most rational
>people gave up.
>
>>>Blacks are discriminated against, are paid less, have virtually no
>>>power to counter white money and power
>>
>> And you realize laws are not the answer to that.
>
>No--there are some laws that FORCE compliance, and those are
>systematically attacked by wingers daily.
>
>>>Non-heterosexual CITIZENS do not have the same rights as ALL other
>>>citizens in Civil law, marriage among them
>>
>> And you call me balmy.
>
>Haven't you paid attention to the news, JoeLoon?
>
>>>It is NOT a "Special right" to rid the legal system of discrimination
>>>that stops their equality.
>>
>> It sure is, else there would not be legislation
>>concerning it.
>
>Systematically negated by wingers.
>
>> I am trying to guess what the liberals will come
>>up with next.
>
>What we historically have, Joeloon
>
>a) better living conditions for all people (not just the priviliged
>and wealthy)
>
>b) Protection for women, children and workers
>
>c) Forced compliance with the Constitution's ideals and principles to
>make conservatives stop their racism, bigotry, greed and sleaze.

Good luck.






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He'll need it. God knows he doesn't 'prepare'

emoneyjoe

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I don't know what rights laws will want to change
next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
the right to go topless like men.







RichTravsky

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They're obsessed with equal rights.

> And why did they vote for a candidate that had
> been nothing but an activist, apparently they like
> controversy and adversity.

How dare Obama want to help people.

RT

RichTravsky

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Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..

emoneyjoe

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On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:40:41 -0600, RichTravsky
Maybe they are trying to ignore the worse
economic times in US history.


>> And why did they vote for a candidate that had
>> been nothing but an activist, apparently they like
>> controversy and adversity.
>
>How dare Obama want to help people.
>
>RT

Time to stop activating and do some driving
and planning. Do something, anything, that
will help with jobs, the biggest federal deficits
in US history, the stagnant space program,
the need for liquid fuels.

There won't be enough civil rights to last
another 4 years.







emoneyjoe

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When were they stopped?







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On Fri, 18 May 2012 22:28:24 -0700, China Blue Max
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
>> >> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
>> >> the right to go topless like men.
>
>There are quite a few men who shouldn't be allowed to go topless.
>
>> >Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
>>
>> When were they stopped?
>
>Women were excluded nationally until 1920 when the 19th Amendment was ratified.
>
>Blacks were excluded in many states until 1965 when the Voting Rights Act was
>enacted.

This is 2012. But chances are the OP meant
that picture ID or birth certificate is too much to ask
of a voter.

The only object of voter IDs is to try to prevent
anyone voting more than once, and to try to limit
voting to those eligible, which must include all
citizens over the age of 17 unless they have
forfeited voting rights by being convicted of a
felony.






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emoneyjoe

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On Sat, 19 May 2012 03:21:26 -0700, China Blue Max
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <ctqer7907og880phn...@4ax.com>,
> emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 May 2012 22:28:24 -0700, China Blue Max
>> <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
>> >> >> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
>> >> >> the right to go topless like men.
>> >
>> >There are quite a few men who shouldn't be allowed to go topless.
>> >
>> >> >Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
>> >>
>> >> When were they stopped?
>> >
>> >Women were excluded nationally until 1920 when the 19th Amendment was
>> >ratified.
>> >
>> >Blacks were excluded in many states until 1965 when the Voting Rights Act
>> >was
>> >enacted.
>>
>> This is 2012. But chances are the OP meant
>> that picture ID or birth certificate is too much to ask
>> of a voter.
>
>How many would accept a birth certificate instead of a picture identification?

How do you think a picture ID is obtained?

Things like utility bills and rent receipts are only
to show residence, a birth certificate is needed to
show citizenship unless naturalization papers apply.
I don't know if there are others allowed to vote,
but they would need papers too to get a picture ID.


Voting is surely, as, or more, important than
getting food stamps.







Dakota

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On 5/19/2012 5:21 AM, China Blue Max wrote:
> In article<ctqer7907og880phn...@4ax.com>,
> emoneyjoe<emon...@iglou.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 May 2012 22:28:24 -0700, China Blue Max
>> <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
>>>>>> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
>>>>>> the right to go topless like men.
>>>
>>> There are quite a few men who shouldn't be allowed to go topless.
>>>
>>>>> Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
>>>>
>>>> When were they stopped?
>>>
>>> Women were excluded nationally until 1920 when the 19th Amendment was
>>> ratified.
>>>
>>> Blacks were excluded in many states until 1965 when the Voting Rights Act
>>> was
>>> enacted.
>>
>> This is 2012. But chances are the OP meant
>> that picture ID or birth certificate is too much to ask
>> of a voter.
>
> How many would accept a birth certificate instead of a picture identification?
>
A large percentage of Republican idiots don't accept President Obama's
Birth Certificate.

First.Post

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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
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Like most lib posters, Travesty doesn't have anything real to bitch about
so they lie. Truth of the matter is, historically the democratic party
fought against giving both blacks and women the vote.
It's caqlled projection. Notice how most libs deny the democratic
party's miserable record on civil rights and accuse the Republicans of
doing what in reality they did.



First.Post

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China Blue Max <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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>> >> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
>> >> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
>> >> the right to go topless like men.
>
> There are quite a few men who shouldn't be allowed to go topless.
>
>> >Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
>>
>> When were they stopped?
>
> Women were excluded nationally until 1920 when the 19th Amendment was
> ratified.
>
> Blacks were excluded in many states until 1965 when the Voting Rights
> Act was enacted.
>
Both bills fought against heavily by...... THE DEMOCRATS.

So again, when did the Republicans prevent either from voting liar?


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On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:40:41 -0600, RichTravsky
The problem started with Obama's Chicago way of helping...him self to
other peoples money.

Not one urban renewal project Obama funded in Chicago turned out well.

When ever Obama tries to help it does just the opposite.

CB
Obama and Corzine just want to help
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPWGfJnOU05ZI3f_-tZo3LHPni86IpeEyzpUGzUUz2aJbtXvrpMg
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emoneyjoe

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On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:09:48 -0700, China Blue Max
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <i03fr7lk044b4dp9b...@4ax.com>,
> emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote:
>
>> >> This is 2012. But chances are the OP meant
>> >> that picture ID or birth certificate is too much to ask
>> >> of a voter.
>> >
>> >How many would accept a birth certificate instead of a picture
>> >identification?
>>
>> How do you think a picture ID is obtained?
>
>So you're just farting around again.

Where is your head, there is a process involved
in registering to vote, documents are needed, and
the registration card with voting precinct information
is mailed out.

Whatever documents were used to register may
be required for identity when voting.


People who try to get around those requirements
may end up in jail.







Sid9

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"First.Post" <OccupierDum...@invalid.org> wrote in message
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Ugh.
Same bullshit, new day.

Dakota

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He's actually right on both counts but the Democratic Party has changed
considerably since then. The southern States which had switched en masse
to the Democratic Party (Dixiecrats) because Lincoln was a Republican,
opposed women's suffrage and the Voting Rights Act. When the latter was
signed by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson, the south once again
changed affiliation and embraced the Republican Party.
---------
The key vote came on June 4, 1919, when the Senate approved the
amendment by 56 to 25 after four hours of debate, during which
Democratic Senators opposed to the amendment filibustered to prevent a
roll call until their absent Senators could be protected by pairs. The
Ayes included 36 (82%) Republicans and 20 (54%) Democrats. The Nays
comprised 8 (18%) Republicans and 17 (46%) Democrats. It was ratified by
sufficient states in 1920, the Nineteenth Amendment, which prohibited
state or federal sex-based restrictions on voting.[74]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage#United_States

An indication of where violations of the Voting Rights Act were most
egregious is the DOJ map indicating the States and counties requiring
preclearance under Section 5 of the VRA as of January, 2008. The States
in red are all strongly Republican.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us_s5_cvr08.PNG

(South Dakota, where I live, is a Republican state and the two counties
shown in blue on the map are populated primarily by Native Americans.)

emoneyjoe

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A pox on those who would play the issue for
political gain, these bills were clearly bipartisan
with bigots and racists in both parties.

There is a big difference between personal
feelings and discriminating law, with things like
the school stand-offs so outrageous they defy
the imagination.

But the mandates in the health care act
are of the same character, forcing anybody
to do something is as bad as preventing
school attendance.








First.Post

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Dakota <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in news:jp8too$5mc$1...@dont-email.me:
Bullshit. To this day the majority of southern states continue to be ran
by democratic administrations. So where are all these Republican
sooutherners you talk about? For that matter, other than Thurmond. name the
Demopcratic congressmen that switched p[arties in the mid sixties that you
l;iars are always talking about. According to record, virtually every
democratic congressmen that fought hard and heavy against the civil rights
act like Al Gore Sr and Roberty Byrd remained loyal democrats.

> ---------
> The key vote came on June 4, 1919, when the Senate approved the
> amendment by 56 to 25 after four hours of debate, during which
> Democratic Senators opposed to the amendment filibustered to prevent a
> roll call until their absent Senators could be protected by pairs. The
> Ayes included 36 (82%) Republicans and 20 (54%) Democrats. The Nays
> comprised 8 (18%) Republicans and 17 (46%) Democrats. It was ratified by
> sufficient states in 1920, the Nineteenth Amendment, which prohibited
> state or federal sex-based restrictions on voting.[74]
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_suffrage#United_States
>
> An indication of where violations of the Voting Rights Act were most
> egregious is the DOJ map indicating the States and counties requiring
> preclearance under Section 5 of the VRA as of January, 2008. The States
> in red are all strongly Republican.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Us_s5_cvr08.PNG
>
> (South Dakota, where I live, is a Republican state and the two counties
> shown in blue on the map are populated primarily by Native Americans.)
>
>
“I hold that a Negro is not and never ought to be a citizen of the United
States. I hold that this government was made on the white basis; made by
the white men, for the benefit of white men and their posterity forever,
and should be administered by white men and none others.” – Sen. Stephen A.
Douglas (D., Ill.), 1858; Presidential nominee of the Democratic Party,
1860.

“I am opposed to the practice of having colored policemen in the District
(of Columbia). It is a source of danger by constantly engendering racial
friction, and is offensive to thousands of Southern white people who make
their homes here.”– Sen. Hoke Smith (D., Ga.), 1912; Appointed Secretary of
the Interior by Grover Cleveland, 1893.


“Republicanism means Negro equality, while the Democratic Party means that
the white man is supreme. That is why we Southerners are all Democrats.” –
Sen. Ben Tillman (D., S.C.), 1906; Chairman, Naval Affairs Committee, 1913-
19.

“The Negro as a race, in all the ages of the world, has never shown
sustained power of self-development. He is not endowed with the creative
faculty… He has never created for himself any civilization… He has never
had any civilization except that which has been inculcated by a superior
race. And it is a lamentable fact that his civilization lasts only so long
as he is in the hands of the white man who inculcates it. When left to
himself he has universally gone back to the barbarism of the jungle.” –
Sen. James Vardaman (D., Miss.), 1914; Chairman, Committee on Natural
Resources, 1913-19.

“I do not feel that it would be out of place to state to you here on this
occasion that I know that without the support of the members of this
organization I would not have been called, even by my enemies, the ‘Junior
Senator from Alabama.’ ” – Hugo Black, accepting a life membership in the
Ku Klux Klan upon his election to the U.S. Senate as a Democrat from
Alabama, 1926; Appointed to the United States Supreme Court by Franklin D.
Roosevelt in 1937.

“I have never seen very many white people who felt they were being imposed
upon or being subjected to any second-class citizenship if they were
directed to a waiting room or to any other public facility to wait or to
eat with other white people. Only the Negroes, of all the races which are
in this land, publicly proclaim they are being mistreated, imposed upon,
and declared second-class citizens because they must go to public
facilities with members of their own race.” – Sen. Richard B. Russell Jr.
(D., Ga.), 1961.

“I did not lie awake at night worrying about the problems of Negroes.” –
Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, 1961.


“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a
problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the
political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something
about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet
them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all,
then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of
stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting
a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over
again.” – Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D., Texas), 1957; President of the United
States, 1963-69.

“There is no warrant for the curious notion that Christianity favors the
involuntary commingling of the races in social institutions. Although He
knew both Jews and Samaritans and the relations existing between them,
Christ did not advocate that courts or legislative bodies should compel
them to mix socially against their will.” – Sen. Sam Ervin (D., N.C.),
1955; Chairman, Senate Watergate Committee, 1973-74; Chairman, Committee on
Government Operations, 1971-75.


“I’m not going to use the federal government’s authority deliberately to
circumvent the natural inclination of people to live in ethnically
homogeneous neighborhoods… I have nothing against a community that’s made
up of people who are Polish or Czechoslovakian or French-Canadian or blacks
who are trying to maintain the ethnic purity of their neighborhoods.” –
Gov. Jimmy Carter (D-GA), 1976; President of the United States, 1977-81.

“Everybody likes to go to Geneva. I used to do it for the Law of the Sea
conferences and you’d find these potentates from down in Africa, you know,
rather than eating each other, they’d just come up and get a good square
meal in Geneva.” – Sen. Ernest F. Hollings (D-SC), 1993; Chairman, Senate
Commerce Committee, 1987-95 and 2001-03; Candidate for the Democratic
presidential nomination, 1984.


“I am a former Kleagle [recruiter] of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County…
The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its
rebirth here in West Virginia. It is necessary that the order be promoted
immediately and in every state in the union.” – Sen. Robert C. Byrd, 1946;
Democratic Senator from West Virginia, 1959-2010; Senate Majority Leader,
1977-80 and 1987-88; Senate President Pro Tempore, 1989-95, 2001-03, 2007-
2010.

Bonus quote: “It has of late become the custom of the men of the South to
speak with entire candor of the settled and deliberate policy of
suppressing the Negro vote. They have been forced to choose between a
policy of manifest injustice toward the blacks and the horrors of Negro
rule. They chose to disfranchise the Negroes. That was manifestly the
lesser of two evils… The Republican Party committed a great public crime
when it gave the right of suffrage to the blacks… So long as the Fifteenth
Amendment stands, the menace of the rule of the blacks will impend, and the
safeguards against it must be maintained.” – Editorial, “The Political
Future of the South,” New York Times, May 10, 1900.
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On 5/19/2012 11:33 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:28:12 +0000 (UTC), "First.Post"
> <OccupierDum...@invalid.org> wrote:
>
>>>>> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
>>>>> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
>>>>> the right to go topless like men.
>>>>
>>>> Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
>>>
>>> When were they stopped?
>>>
>> Like most lib posters, Travesty doesn't have anything real to bitch about
>> so they lie. Truth of the matter is, historically the democratic party
>> fought against giving both blacks and women the vote.
>
> No, it's called diversion
>
> The Dixiecrats and southern democrats were CONSERVATIVES

Members of the Democrat party.....


And still more Republicans as a percentage voted for the 1964 civil
rights act.

Which means that Democrats were the obstacle to civil rights.



> The same ideological positions of 19th and most of the 20th century
> conservatives who denied equal rights and civil rights are embodied
> today in republican party politics.

When did Republicans deny civil rights, was it when Lincoln freed the
slaves? Was it when Grant imposed reconstruction, or was it in 1964?

> That includes the "States rights"
> plank used to justify segregation, and the use of the Racist Flag
> conservatives began flying over southern state capitals.

States RIGHTS is just that it has zero to do with Slavery since Slavery
has been made unconstitutional and therefore NOT a States Right.

The 14ht amendment ended States Rights to discriminate.... so you are
including items in States rights that are actually Federal powers and or
powers prohibited to the States and NO longer States decisions and you
don't even understand that what you attribute to States Rights is all wrong.

You are so ignorant that you don't even know that 1865-1900 they changed
the constitution so the position on States RIGHTS also changed, and by
being for States RIGHTS they were all about States *NOT* having the
right to discriminate or have slavery.... The Federal Government under
Democrats like Woodrow Wilson enacted segregation laws. It was
Democrats that passed laws that made it illegal for blacks to vote.


AMENDMENT XIV

Passed by Congress June 13, 1866. Ratified July 9, 1868.

Note: Article I, section 2, of the Constitution was modified by section
2 of the 14th amendment.
Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the
jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State
wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
*nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty*, or
*property*, without due process of law; nor deny to *any person* within
its jurisdiction the *equal protection of the laws*.



["Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
*prohibited by it to the States*, are reserved to the States
respectively, or to the people."]



"PROHIBITED BY IT TO THE STATES".... So the STATES RIGHTS in amendment
10 reaffirms that slavery is banned from the States jurisdiction. It
is prohibited to the States by the constitution in the 13th amendment.
And it is clear that Slavery is NOT a power delegated to or reserved to
the States.


Why would you be against that? YOU ARE A FOOL.










emoneyjoe

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On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:33:31 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:28:12 +0000 (UTC), "First.Post"
><OccupierDum...@invalid.org> wrote:
>
>>>>> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
>>>>> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
>>>>> the right to go topless like men.
>>>>
>>>>Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
>>>
>>> When were they stopped?
>>>
>>Like most lib posters, Travesty doesn't have anything real to bitch about
>>so they lie. Truth of the matter is, historically the democratic party
>>fought against giving both blacks and women the vote.
>
>No, it's called diversion
>
>The Dixiecrats and southern democrats were CONSERVATIVES

Sure, democrats were conservative, black is
white, up is down.


>The same ideological positions of 19th and most of the 20th century
>conservatives who denied equal rights and civil rights are embodied
>today in republican party politics. That includes the "States rights"
>plank used to justify segregation, and the use of the Racist Flag
>conservatives began flying over southern state capitals.

What party was George Wallace?







First.Post

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BeamMeUpScotty <ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
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> On 5/19/2012 11:33 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:28:12 +0000 (UTC), "First.Post"
>> <OccupierDum...@invalid.org> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
>>>>>> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
>>>>>> the right to go topless like men.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
>>>>
>>>> When were they stopped?
>>>>
>>> Like most lib posters, Travesty doesn't have anything real to bitch
>>> about so they lie. Truth of the matter is, historically the
>>> democratic party fought against giving both blacks and women the
>>> vote.
>>
>> No, it's called diversion
>>
>> The Dixiecrats and southern democrats were CONSERVATIVES
>
> Members of the Democrat party.....
>
>
> And still more Republicans as a percentage voted for the 1964 civil
> rights act.
>
> Which means that Democrats were the obstacle to civil rights.

Which also makes the libs "dixdiecrat" nonsense completely ludicrous.
The claim is that the democrats fought the civil rights act and after the
Republicans got it passed all the racist democrats ran to the Republican
party??????
Racists running to the party of emancipation and authors of the civil
rights act??
And the idiots wonder why no one nuys their load of horse shit.

First.Post

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emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
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Democrats fought to expand slavery while Republicans fought to end it.
Democrats passed those discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws.
Democrats supported and passed the Missouri Compromise to protect
slavery.
Democrats supported and passed the Kansas Nebraska Act to expand
slavery.
Democrats supported and backed the Dred Scott Decision.
Democrats opposed educating blacks and murdered our teachers.
Democrats fought against anti-lynching laws.
Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, is well known for having
been a “Kleagle” in the Ku Klux Klan.
Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, personally filibustered
the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage.
Democrats passed the Repeal Act of 1894 that overturned civil right
laws enacted by Republicans.
Democrats declared that they would rather vote for a “yellow dog” than
vote for a Republican, because the Republican Party was known as the party
for blacks.
Democrat President Woodrow Wilson, reintroduced segregation throughout
the federal government immediately upon taking office in 1913.
Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s first appointment to the
Supreme Court was a life member of the Ku Klux Klan, Sen. Hugo Black,
Democrat of Alabama.
Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s choice for vice president in
1944 was Harry Truman, who had joined the Ku Klux Klan in Kansas City in
1922.
Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt resisted Republican efforts to
pass a federal law against lynching.
Democrat President Franklin D. Roosevelt opposed integration of the
armed forces.
Democrat Senators Sam Ervin, Albert Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd were the
chief opponents of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Democrats supported and backed Judge John Ferguson in the case of
Plessy v Ferguson.
Democrats supported the School Board of Topeka Kansas in the case of
Brown v The Board of Education of Topeka Kansas.
Democrat public safety commissioner Eugene “Bull” Connor, in
Birmingham, Ala., unleashed vicious dogs and turned fire hoses on black
civil rights demonstrators.
Democrats were who Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and the other protesters
were fighting.
Democrat Georgia Governor Lester Maddox “brandished an ax hammer to
prevent blacks from patronizing his restaurant.
Democrat Governor George Wallace stood in front of the Alabama
schoolhouse in 1963, declaring there would be segregation forever.
Democrat Arkansas Governor Faubus tried to prevent desegregation of
Little Rock public schools.
Democrat Senator John F. Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights
Act.
Democrat President John F. Kennedy opposed the 1963 March on Washington
by Dr. King.
Democrat President John F. Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and
investigated by the FBI.
Democrat President Bill Clinton’s mentor was U.S. Senator J. William
Fulbright, an Arkansas Democrat and a supporter of racial segregation.
Democrat President Bill Clinton interned for J. William Fulbright in
1966-67.
Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright signed the Southern Manifesto
opposing the Supreme Court’s 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision.
Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright joined with the Dixiecrats in
filibustering the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964.
Democrat Senator J. William Fulbright voted against the 1965 Voting
Rights Act.
Southern Democrats opposed desegregation and integration.

Democrats opposed:

The Emancipation Proclamation
The 13th Amendment
The 14th Amendment
The 15th Amendment
The Reconstruction Act of 1867
The Civil Rights of 1866
The Enforcement Act of 1870
The Forced Act of 1871
The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
The Civil Rights Act of 1875
The Freeman Bureau
The Civil Rights Act of 1957
The Civil Rights Act of 1960
The United State Civil Rights Commission

And they want everyone to think that the racists left the democrat party
for the party that fought for emancipation and the civil rights act.
Yeah yeah, sure sure Makes as much sense as a Klansman wanting to join the
Anti Defamation League.

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On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:28:48 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
wrote:
Life for Libs has become unbearable. Keeping track of usernames and
passwords online has put such a burden on them anything else seems
cruel and unusual.

Securing the 'c i t i z e n' s' right to vote without it being
corrupted by fraud would seem to out weigh any burden to the
responsible 'citizen' who has allegiance to his countries sovereignty.

The Progressive doesn't believe in such security, allegiance or
sovereignty. If he did he wouldn't be apposed to requiring proof of
citizenship.
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 07:32:24 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 00:58:05 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
><ThenDestro...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:
>
>>> The Dixiecrats and southern democrats were CONSERVATIVES
>>
>>Members of the Democrat party.....
>>
>>
>>And still more Republicans as a percentage voted for the 1964 civil
>>rights act.
>>
>>Which means that Democrats were the obstacle to civil rights.
>
>Southern Conservatives

Anybody trying to discuss anything with this guy
is wasting time.


>>> The same ideological positions of 19th and most of the 20th century
>>> conservatives who denied equal rights and civil rights are embodied
>>> today in republican party politics.
>>
>>When did Republicans deny civil rights, was it when Lincoln freed the
>>slaves? Was it when Grant imposed reconstruction, or was it in 1964?
>
>Lincoln was a liberal/progressive from the "north"

Lincoln was not a liberal in any way related to
you control freaks.


>Reconstruction was a Northern punishment against southern
>conservatives.

Quit making shit up, is there even any other
writings like this BS?


>The civil rights Act was a liberal wing of the Democratic party
>introduced legislation---supported by the Liberal/progressive GOP and
>passed as a Progressive/liberal act.

Sure, Ike was a democrat, Bush was a democrat,
Roosevelt was a republican, time for your medicine.


>The CONSERVATIVES of the Democrats left the DNC---went to the RNC--and
>that's why all your leadership spoke with a southern Drawl since the
>late 60's

So everybody is a democrat now, two faced,
lying bigots, claiming to be for civil rights, but
in reality their ego tells them they are better
than blacks, better than hispanics, better
than anybody else, and smarter than Einstein.


I am not a democrat.







emoneyjoe

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 07:34:10 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 01:21:32 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>
>>>The Dixiecrats and southern democrats were CONSERVATIVES
>>
>> Sure, democrats were conservative, black is
>>white, up is down.
>>
>
>Whatever that babble has to do with anything seems more in line with
>your other nonsense, Joe-Loon
>
>The issue is IDEOLOGY which a party embraces as it's core principles
>and goals
>
>Today's GOP is an embodiment of former Southern Conservative,
>religious reich and Wealth class dregs
>
>Thank god you have them---not us.

I don't have anybody, I despise anybody that
says one thing and acts the opposite.

Some of my best friends are democrats, I have
to just ignore their bias and bigotry, it is so obvious
they thrive on gossip and rumor.

I don't belong to any group, especially closed
groups that make any effort to help members
more than anyone else.


You are the opposite.







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Progressives aren't progressive, they are sick
commie left wing foot draggers.






C...@prayforme.com

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 13:22:08 -0700, China Blue Max
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <uvfir7dui01mnmu4i...@4ax.com>, Yoor...@Jurgis.net
>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 20 May 2012 12:42:48 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
>> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Where is your head, there is a process involved
>> >>in registering to vote, documents are needed, and
>> >>the registration card with voting precinct information
>> >>is mailed out.
>> >>
>> >> Whatever documents were used to register may
>> >>be required for identity when voting.
>>
>> THe documents required to vote---are not.
>
>Our state doesn't require documents to register.

You then live in a State that has a lot of voter fraud

C...@prayforme.com

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Scathing to Libs but will never penetrate their veal of delusions

C...@prayforme.com

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 16:06:22 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
Gary cannot fathom that Party 'is' that Party does.

It's like the inanity plea where Gary claims it were fantoms that
drove him insane, not his own nutty values

emoneyjoe

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 13:03:50 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 12:42:48 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>> Where is your head, there is a process involved
>>>in registering to vote, documents are needed, and
>>>the registration card with voting precinct information
>>>is mailed out.
>>>
>>> Whatever documents were used to register may
>>>be required for identity when voting.
>
>THe documents required to vote---are not.
>
>Idiot.

How does one prove who one is?







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emoneyjoe

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 14:57:44 -0700, China Blue Max
<chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <v4pir7l2mnijbvcal...@4ax.com>,
>The same way you prove you're not comitting perjury in court or anywhere else.

I avoid courts.

Nice of the state to take your word for it,
how many names do most people use?






C...@prayforme.com

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 16:10:54 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 17:31:44 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>Gary cannot fathom that Party 'is' that Party does.
>
>Exactly

The DimocRAT Party's top value is a sluts right to kill what's in
them. The DimocRAT Party has created a cottage industry of disposable
life, an arm of the NDC, Planned Parenthood.

Your Party has created the notion that having unprotected sex before
marriage is ok, having an abortion is no big thang. Your Party and
America's President supports partial birth abortion. Obama even
sponsored a bill while in the Senate to that end.

Your Party accepts no moral responsibility or consequence for the
'generations' of children born out of wedlock, growing up without
family values nor honors authority whether it's parental, academic,
civil or judicial due to the culture of Separation of Church and
State. Your Party has systematically removed Thee Highest Ruling
Authority from the lives our children and now they've grown up to
become the 99%, flash mobs thugs voting for Obama, his political base.

That is the modern DimocRAT Party.

>
>The present day Republican party--"does" southern conservative policy

States rights seperates from the Godless values of Washington

>
>That's because after the 60's---the DNC wouldn't tolerate them
>anymore.

It shows

>
>The GOP has the "States rights" plank in the platform--not the DNC

Amen brother. States rights is were the heart of the country lay, not
in Washington where centralized Marxist czars dictate.

>
>The GOP dominated south flies the Racist Flag over capitols.

The rebel flag represents freedom and the snake on a yellow flag
states, "don't tread on me"

>
>The GOP has attacked the CRA for 30 years.

A program that Barney Frank, Maxine Waters, her husband and Franklin
Raignes (was Clinton's Treasury Secretary) used to fell the housing
industry for the greed of Wall Street bankers Robert Rubin at Country
Wide Homes, Jon Corzine and Henry Paulson at Goldman Sachs.


The DimoRAT Party is the Party of darkness and has a prince as its
leader.

CB
Oboobuh's publicist is a birther?
...
The literary agent of Barack Obama used 'born in Kenya' as part of a
promotional pamphlet designed to help sell Obama’s first
autobiography, Dreams from My Father.
...
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2012/05/obama-born-in-kenya-according-to-his-literary-agency/

C...@prayforme.com

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 07:34:10 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 01:21:32 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>
>>>The Dixiecrats and southern democrats were CONSERVATIVES
>>
>> Sure, democrats were conservative, black is
>>white, up is down.
>>
>
>Whatever that babble has to do with anything seems more in line with
>your other nonsense, Joe-Loon
>
>The issue is IDEOLOGY which a party embraces as it's core principles
>and goals
>
>Today's GOP is an embodiment of former Southern Conservative,
>religious reich and Wealth class dregs
>
>Thank god you have them---not us.

The MODERN day DimocRAT Party's top value is a sluts right to kill
what's in them. The DimocRAT Party has created a cottage industry of
disposable life, an arm of the DNC, Planned Parenthood.

Your Party has created the notion that having unprotected sex before
marriage is ok and when ya get knocked up, having an abortion is no

C...@prayforme.com

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On Sun, 20 May 2012 16:12:43 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 17:09:56 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>>The Republican Party committed a great public crime
>>>when it gave the right of suffrage to the blacks… So long as the Fifteenth
>>>Amendment stands, the menace of the rule of the blacks will impend, and the
>>>safeguards against it must be maintained.” – Editorial, “The Political
>>>Future of the South,” New York Times, May 10, 1900.
>>
>>Scathing to Libs but will never penetrate their veal of delusions
>
>IOW, you haven't a fucking clue about what you read?
>
>The Republican party committed a CRIME by allowing blacks to vote.

Bullshit. To this day the majority of southern states...

(New Orleans' Chocolate City mayor comes to mind who like all Libs
wait for their federal god to come rescue them. Ray Nagin wouldn't so
much as move busses to higher ground to anticipate an evacuation of
his mmm mmm mmm chocolates).

...continue to be ran by democratic administrations. So where are all
these Republican sooutherners you talk about? For that matter, other
than Thurmond. name the Demopcratic congressmen that switched p[arties
in the mid sixties that you l;iars are always talking about. According
to record, virtually every democratic congressmen that fought hard and
heavy against the civil rights act like Al Gore Sr and Roberty Byrd
remained loyal democrats.
--First.Post

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emoneyjoe wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:41:13 -0600, RichTravsky
> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> >emoneyjoe wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:43:29 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>>>> And are all of those rights now the same for all
> >> >>>>>>people, I see no reason for any group to have any
> >> >>>>>>special rights.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>You're as balmy as they come
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Women do not have the same rights and protections under the law.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> A non-specific claim.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>As a male citizen---is anyone enacting laws to stick a probe up your
> >> >>>ass, JoeLoon?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>They
> >> >>>>>are paid less,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Not all men make the same,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>The issue is women being paid less for the identical work done by a
> >> >>>man. Try and keep up.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>receive less benefits, have more regulations and laws
> >> >>>>>dictating to them how they must live.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I don't know where you are going with this,
> >> >>>>I always thought women had it pretty nice with
> >> >>>>men taking them places and giving them gifts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>THerein lies you idiotic 19th century "values" that most rational
> >> >>>people gave up.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>Blacks are discriminated against, are paid less, have virtually no
> >> >>>>>power to counter white money and power
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> And you realize laws are not the answer to that.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>No--there are some laws that FORCE compliance, and those are
> >> >>>systematically attacked by wingers daily.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>Non-heterosexual CITIZENS do not have the same rights as ALL other
> >> >>>>>citizens in Civil law, marriage among them
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> And you call me balmy.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Haven't you paid attention to the news, JoeLoon?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>>It is NOT a "Special right" to rid the legal system of discrimination
> >> >>>>>that stops their equality.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> It sure is, else there would not be legislation
> >> >>>>concerning it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Systematically negated by wingers.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I am trying to guess what the liberals will come
> >> >>>>up with next.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>What we historically have, Joeloon
> >> >>>
> >> >>>a) better living conditions for all people (not just the priviliged
> >> >>>and wealthy)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>b) Protection for women, children and workers
> >> >>>
> >> >>>c) Forced compliance with the Constitution's ideals and principles to
> >> >>>make conservatives stop their racism, bigotry, greed and sleaze.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good luck.
> >> >
> >> >He'll need it. God knows he doesn't 'prepare'
> >>
> >> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
> >> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
> >> the right to go topless like men.
> >
> >Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
>
> When were they stopped?

Constitutional amendment for women. Blacks are still being worked
against.

RichTravsky

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emoneyjoe wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:40:41 -0600, RichTravsky
> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> >emoneyjoe wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:13:00 -0600, RichTravsky
> >> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >> >emoneyjoe wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 13 May 2012 22:51:39 -0600, RichTravsky
> >> >> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >emoneyjoe wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 12 May 2012 00:49:04 -0600, RichTravsky
> >> >> >> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >"C...@PrayForMe.com" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 10 May 2012 12:11:10 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
> >> >> >> >> >On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:12:49 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >> >> >> >> ><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:08:52 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >> >> >> >> >><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>>Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
> >> >> >> >> >>>It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
> >> >> >> >> >>>the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do...
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>... Ellen DeGeneres and the pig, Bill Maher
> >> >> >> >> >[snip]
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > You just ruined my day.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Sorry but Oboobuh has to be exposed for the low life he 'be'
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You bigots should get a room
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Bigots don't do anything like you do to
> >> >> >> need a room, why do you always think like
> >> >> >> that?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I think you hurt your boyfriend's feelings...
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't have a boyfriend, oh, don't tell me
> >> >
> >> >No wonder you're cranky. CB stood you up.
> >> >
> >> >> your feelings are hurt, I am blocking this thread!
> >>
> >> Why are leftist liberals so obsessed with perverted
> >> gay thoughts?
> >
> >They're obsessed with equal rights.
>
> Maybe they are trying to ignore the worse
> economic times in US history.

Obama is working on undoing the damage Duhbya did.

> >> And why did they vote for a candidate that had
> >> been nothing but an activist, apparently they like
> >> controversy and adversity.
> >
> >How dare Obama want to help people.
>
> Time to stop activating and do some driving
> and planning. Do something, anything, that
> will help with jobs, the biggest federal deficits
> in US history, the stagnant space program,
> the need for liquid fuels.

Not keeping up with the news? Indicators are rising.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/business/economy/housing-starts-rebound.html

> There won't be enough civil rights to last
> another 4 years.

List the rights you've lost ->

RichTravsky

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China Blue Max wrote:
>
> > >> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
> > >> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
> > >> the right to go topless like men.
>
> There are quite a few men who shouldn't be allowed to go topless.
>
> > >Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
> >
> > When were they stopped?
>
> Women were excluded nationally until 1920 when the 19th Amendment was ratified.
>
> Blacks were excluded in many states until 1965 when the Voting Rights Act was
> enacted.

http://www.readersupportednews.org/opinion2/278-76/9063-gop-tactics-for-blocking-voter
s-in-2012

RichTravsky

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"First.Post" wrote:
>
> China Blue Max <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:chine.bleu-81FC5...@news.x-privat.org:
>
> >> >> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
> >> >> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
> >> >> the right to go topless like men.
> >
> > There are quite a few men who shouldn't be allowed to go topless.
> >
> >> >Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
> >>
> >> When were they stopped?
> >
> > Women were excluded nationally until 1920 when the 19th Amendment was
> > ratified.
> >
> > Blacks were excluded in many states until 1965 when the Voting Rights
> > Act was enacted.
> >
> Both bills fought against heavily by...... THE DEMOCRATS.
>
> So again, when did the Republicans prevent either from voting liar?

You mean like recently?

Confederate flags.

Bob Jones University.

The CCC.


http://courtingdisaster.blogspot.com/Chapter3.htm
...
The affinity Bush, and the rest of the Republican Party, have shown over
the past few years for men and groups with an extremist right wing bent
has already started to drive away some of the partys rising minority
stars. Faye Anderson, one of the few black women activists in the
Republican Party, was seen by the GOP as a rising star in the late 90s.
In 1997, the GOP established the New Majority Council with the explicit
goal of incorporating more minorities into the party. Anderson was tapped
to head the Council and the Republican effort to woo blacks and other
minorities. In March, the consistent GOP pandering to extremists finally
overwhelmed her and Anderson left not only the New Majority Council but the
Republican Party altogether. Citing Bushs visit to Bob Jones University
and his unwillingness to take a stance against the Confederate flag in South
Carolina, along with the continued ties of Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott
to the Council of Conservative Citizens, a white supremacist group; Anderson
explained, my switch [from the GOP to independent] comes in the wake of a
pattern of racial blunders that I cannot dismiss as mere mistakes. She
continued, The Republican Party should do some serious spring cleaning
because the stench up under the big tent with the likes of the CCC,
[former Klu Klux Klan leader] David Duke, Confederate flag wavers and Bob
Jones has become intolerable.
...



http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0700tidbits1.htm
...
Powell Says Republicans Not the 'Black Guy's' Party

WASHINGTON -
U.S. retired Gen. Colin Powell said on Sunday the Republican Party
has failed to adequately represent America's blacks, but he would
consider serving as secretary of state under Republican George W.
Bush if the Texas governor wins the presidency.

Powell, a prominent black Republican whose popularity during the
Gulf War led to calls for him to step up as a presidential candidate
in 1996, has previously indicated he was notinterested in running
for vice president under Bush.

Powell said on Fox News Sunday the Republican Party is dangerously
close to being seen a party for whites, especially because of its
stand against affirmative action.

"It is certainly not seen as the black guy's party ... It has not
done well in the African-American community," Powell said in an
interview taped on Friday.

"I think too often the Republican Party has said we know what's best
for you as opposed to listening to the African-American community,
understanding some of the despair that exists in the African-American
inner city communities," he said.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ravenel,_Jr.
...
Ravenel is a member of Moultrie Camp, Sons of Confederate Veterans, and is
a supporter of the Confederate flag being flown at the South Carolina
statehouse. He provoked controversy at a rally for the flag in 2000 when he
referred to the NAACP as the "National Association for Retarded People".
Ravenel upset even more people after he apologized to mentally handicapped
people for comparing them to the NAACP. Many called for the Charleston
bridge to be renamed.

Ravenel once said that his fellow white congressional committee members
operated on "black time", which he characterized as meaning "fashionably
late".
...


http://www.bartcopnation.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=522
"What Bush did to McCain in the 2000 S. C. primary"
...
McCains Sanity. Bush Supporters Spread Racist Rumors About McCains
Daughter. Rove Suggests Former POW McCain Committed Treason and
Fathered Child With Black Prostitute. Sampley Called McCain a Coward
and a Traitor.
...


Original Link no longer active but can be found around the web


http://www.voy.com/5306/9/3551.html
...
In early March 1989, after his legislative victory, Duke
addressed a Populist party convention in Chicago, telling
the audience of neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and skinheads
that he had run for office under the GOP label "because that's
where so many of our people are," adding, "I am a Republican,
but I am and always will be a Populist Republican!" Unbeknownst
to Duke, an opponent tape-recorded his remarks and later offered
the story to the Picayune.
...



"The more negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the
Negrophobe Whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's
where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the Whites
will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local
Democrats." - Kevin Phillips, Nixon political strategist, on the
republicon "Southern Strategy"



http://www.examiner.com/liberal-in-orlando/texas-republican-on-storm-damage-victims-don-t-try-to-jew-them-down

On Thursday night, a Republican Texas state representative made a
gaffe that would even make George Bush cringe. During a discussion
about payments being made to windstorm damage victims, Chairman of the
Joint Committee on Windstorm Insurance, Larry Taylor, showed us more
of the same from the Republican party with an outrageous statement.

Taylor: "Don't nitpick, don't try to Jew them down."



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57374439-503544/immigration-speaker-sparks-controversy-at-cpac/

Controversy over an immigration opponent who spoke at the Conservative
Political Action Conference (CPAC) blind-sided conference organizers who
say they didn't know who he was before this week.

Al Cardenas, director of the American Conservative Union (ACU), which
organizes CPAC, said he had never heard of Peter Brimelow, editor of
VDARE.com, who has been labeled a white nationalist by the Southern
Poverty Law Center.
...
"It's shocking that the CPAC would provide a platform for someone like
Brimelow," said Michael Keegan, president of People For the American
Way. "Responsible GOP leaders should speak out against the bigotry and
hatred that Brimelow and VDARE push on a regular basis."
...

RichTravsky

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"First.Post" wrote:
>
> emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
> news:8iaer7pc4161mecsl...@4ax.com:
>
> > On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:41:13 -0600, RichTravsky
> > <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>emoneyjoe wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 17 May 2012 10:43:29 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >>> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >On Wed, 16 May 2012 20:49:40 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
> >>> >wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>On Wed, 16 May 2012 18:41:20 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>On Wed, 16 May 2012 17:20:48 -0400, emoneyjoe
> >>> >>><emon...@iglou.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>>On Wed, 16 May 2012 11:18:23 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >>> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
> >>> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
> >>> the right to go topless like men.
> >>
> >>Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
> >
> > When were they stopped?
> >
> Like most lib posters, Travesty doesn't have anything real to bitch about
> so they lie. Truth of the matter is, historically the democratic party
> fought against giving both blacks and women the vote.
> It's caqlled projection. Notice how most libs deny the democratic
> party's miserable record on civil rights and accuse the Republicans of
> doing what in reality they did.

My how things change...

RichTravsky

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"C...@PrayForMe.com" wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:40:41 -0600, RichTravsky
> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
>
> >emoneyjoe wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 15 May 2012 21:13:00 -0600, RichTravsky
> >> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >emoneyjoe wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 13 May 2012 22:51:39 -0600, RichTravsky
> >> >> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >emoneyjoe wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 12 May 2012 00:49:04 -0600, RichTravsky
> >> >> >> <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >"C...@PrayForMe.com" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 10 May 2012 12:11:10 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
> >> >> >> >> >On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:12:49 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >> >> >> >> ><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>On Thu, 10 May 2012 11:08:52 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
> >> >> >> >> >><C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>>Cover story on Yahoo: "How will gay marriage impact the election?"
> >> >> >> >> >>>It's pathetic to see the President so desperate as to reach out for
> >> >> >> >> >>>the gutter vote. This after the Slut vote. Next He'll have to do...
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>... Ellen DeGeneres and the pig, Bill Maher
> >> >> >> >> >[snip]
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > You just ruined my day.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Sorry but Oboobuh has to be exposed for the low life he 'be'
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You bigots should get a room
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Bigots don't do anything like you do to
> >> >> >> need a room, why do you always think like
> >> >> >> that?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I think you hurt your boyfriend's feelings...
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't have a boyfriend, oh, don't tell me
> >> >
> >> >No wonder you're cranky. CB stood you up.
> >> >
> >> >> your feelings are hurt, I am blocking this thread!
> >>
> >> Why are leftist liberals so obsessed with perverted
> >> gay thoughts?
> >
> >They're obsessed with equal rights.
> >
> >> And why did they vote for a candidate that had
> >> been nothing but an activist, apparently they like
> >> controversy and adversity.
> >
> >How dare Obama want to help people.
>
> The problem started with Obama's Chicago way of helping...him self to
> other peoples money.

Really? How? Did he get rich doing it? Well?

> Not one urban renewal project Obama funded in Chicago turned out well.
>
> When ever Obama tries to help it does just the opposite.
>
> CB
> Obama and Corzine just want to help
> http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPWGfJnOU05ZI3f_-tZo3LHPni86IpeEyzpUGzUUz2aJbtXvrpMg

RichTravsky

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May 21, 2012, 1:24:00 AM5/21/12
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"First.Post" wrote:
>
> emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com> wrote in
> news:2nvgr7di0s289d91o...@4ax.com:
>
> > On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:33:31 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:28:12 +0000 (UTC), "First.Post"
> >><OccupierDum...@invalid.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
> >>>>>> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
> >>>>>> the right to go topless like men.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
> >>>>
> >>>> When were they stopped?
> >>>>
> >>>Like most lib posters, Travesty doesn't have anything real to bitch
> >>>about so they lie. Truth of the matter is, historically the
> >>>democratic party fought against giving both blacks and women the
> >>>vote.
> >>
> >>No, it's called diversion
> >>
> >>The Dixiecrats and southern democrats were CONSERVATIVES
> >
> > Sure, democrats were conservative, black is
> > white, up is down.
> >
> >
> >>The same ideological positions of 19th and most of the 20th century
> >>conservatives who denied equal rights and civil rights are embodied
> >>today in republican party politics. That includes the "States rights"
> >>plank used to justify segregation, and the use of the Racist Flag
> >>conservatives began flying over southern state capitals.
> >
> > What party was George Wallace?

RichTravsky

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May 21, 2012, 1:23:22 AM5/21/12
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BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
>
> On 5/19/2012 11:33 PM, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:28:12 +0000 (UTC), "First.Post"
> > <OccupierDum...@invalid.org> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> I don't know what rights laws will want to change
> >>>>> next, something horrible maybe, like giving women
> >>>>> the right to go topless like men.
> >>>>
> >>>> Or letting women vote. Or letting blacks vote..
> >>>
> >>> When were they stopped?
> >>>
> >> Like most lib posters, Travesty doesn't have anything real to bitch about
> >> so they lie. Truth of the matter is, historically the democratic party
> >> fought against giving both blacks and women the vote.
> >
> > No, it's called diversion
> >
> > The Dixiecrats and southern democrats were CONSERVATIVES
>
> Members of the Democrat party.....
>
> And still more Republicans as a percentage voted for the 1964 civil
> rights act.
>
> Which means that Democrats were the obstacle to civil rights.
>
> > The same ideological positions of 19th and most of the 20th century
> > conservatives who denied equal rights and civil rights are embodied
> > today in republican party politics.
>
> When did Republicans deny civil rights, was it when Lincoln freed the
> slaves? Was it when Grant imposed reconstruction, or was it in 1964?

You mean like recently?

RichTravsky

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May 21, 2012, 1:28:25 AM5/21/12
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C...@prayforme.com

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May 21, 2012, 7:14:36 AM5/21/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 21:54:58 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
<C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 May 2012 07:34:10 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 20 May 2012 01:21:32 -0400, emoneyjoe <emon...@iglou.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>The Dixiecrats and southern democrats were CONSERVATIVES
>>>
>>> Sure, democrats were conservative, black is
>>>white, up is down.
>>>
>>
>>Whatever that babble has to do with anything seems more in line with
>>your other nonsense, Joe-Loon
>>
>>The issue is IDEOLOGY which a party embraces as it's core principles
>>and goals
>>
>>Today's GOP is an embodiment of former Southern Conservative,
>>religious reich and Wealth class dregs
>>
>>Thank god you have them---not us.
>
>The MODERN day DimocRAT Party's top value is a sluts right to kill
>what's in them...

...and force people of religious moral principle to pay for birth
control pills against their will for covert community agitator (Fluke)
sluts at Christian schools

C...@prayforme.com

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May 21, 2012, 7:02:02 PM5/21/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 23:11:05 -0600, RichTravsky
I don't know, stupid. How did Obama get so rich while working as a
Chicago assemblyman awarding contruction contracts to Tony Rezko? Do
you suppose the Chicago Way involved kickbacks? Pay to Play?


>
>> Not one urban renewal project Obama funded in Chicago turned out well.

Not one!

>>
>> When ever Obama tries to help it does just the opposite.

I Googgled Obama Chicago urban renewal projects a few times and have
NEVER come up with a single hit. Imagine that.
Help the Chicago Way

C...@prayforme.com

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May 22, 2012, 11:05:07 PM5/22/12
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On Sun, 20 May 2012 23:01:22 -0600, RichTravsky
Seen retail sales figures?

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2012-05-15/consumer-price-index-retail-sales/54968118/1

The Oboobuh smoke and mirror show is an illusion.

Until we have 225K jobs created by 'private' business, all else is BS
burrowing.

RichTravsky

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May 22, 2012, 11:11:29 PM5/22/12
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> >> >> >> >> >> > You just ruined my day.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Sorry but Oboobuh has to be exposed for the low life he 'be'
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >You bigots should get a room
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Bigots don't do anything like you do to
> >> >> >> >> need a room, why do you always think like
> >> >> >> >> that?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I think you hurt your boyfriend's feelings...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I don't have a boyfriend, oh, don't tell me
> >> >> >
> >> >> >No wonder you're cranky. CB stood you up.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> your feelings are hurt, I am blocking this thread!
> >> >>
> >> >> Why are leftist liberals so obsessed with perverted
> >> >> gay thoughts?
> >> >
> >> >They're obsessed with equal rights.
> >> >
> >> >> And why did they vote for a candidate that had
> >> >> been nothing but an activist, apparently they like
> >> >> controversy and adversity.
> >> >
> >> >How dare Obama want to help people.
> >>
> >> The problem started with Obama's Chicago way of helping...him self to
> >> other peoples money.
> >
> >Really? How? Did he get rich doing it? Well?
>
> I don't know, stupid. How did Obama get so rich while working as a

Yes, you do know.

ANswer - he DIDN'T get rich.

> Chicago assemblyman awarding contruction contracts to Tony Rezko? Do
> you suppose the Chicago Way involved kickbacks? Pay to Play?

Feel free to look for evidence.

> >> Not one urban renewal project Obama funded in Chicago turned out well.
>
> Not one!

And yet below, you say you googled it and didn't find any such project.

> >>
> >> When ever Obama tries to help it does just the opposite.
>
> I Googgled Obama Chicago urban renewal projects a few times and have
> NEVER come up with a single hit. Imagine that.

I suggest you learn how to use google...

RichTravsky

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May 22, 2012, 11:29:12 PM5/22/12
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http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2012-05/D9UTTTJ81.htm
Americans are buying more homes in every region of the country, the latest
indication that the housing market could be on the mend.

An increasing portion of those sales are from first-time buyers, who are
critical to a housing recovery.

Sales of previously occupied homes rose 3.4 percent in April from March to
a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 4.62 million, the National Association
of Realtors said Tuesday. That nearly matches January's pace of 4.63 million
-- the best in two years. It is still well below the nearly 6 million that
most economists equate with healthy markets.

A pickup in hiring and cheaper mortgages, combined with lower home prices in
most markets, has made home buying more attractive. While many economists
acknowledged that the market has a long way to go, most said the April sales
report was encouraging.

"The trend in sales is upward, and we think it has a good deal further to go
over the next few months as payrolls pick up further and mortgage availability
improves," said Ian Shepherdson, chief U.S. economist for High Frequency
Economics.

Sales rose last month from March in all regions of the country. They increased
5.1 percent rise in the Northeast, 3.5 percent in the South, 4.4 percent in the
West and 1 percent in the Midwest.

And more first-time buyers entered the market. In April, they made up 35
percent of sales. That's up from 32 percent in March.
...

C...@prayforme.com

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May 23, 2012, 12:26:42 PM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:11:29 -0600, RichTravsky
If the City of Chicago or the Marxist were proud of Oboobuh's urban
renewal record you damn well would get hits doing a search on Google.
But there are no success stories so therefore there's no articles
praising the Boob for his benevolence.

>
>> >>
>> >> When ever Obama tries to help it does just the opposite.
>>
>> I Googgled Obama Chicago urban renewal projects a few times and have
>> NEVER come up with a single hit. Imagine that.
>
>I suggest you learn how to use google...

I know all about promoting on Google, stupid. Marketing is my #1 job
after creating urgency to purchase. It's what I do.

C...@prayforme.com

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May 23, 2012, 1:29:12 PM5/23/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 21:29:12 -0600, RichTravsky
Actually the number of jobs per month needs to be 250,000 to keep up
with population growth.

Real estate is really affordable, people with money, (rich people to
you) are picking up property with cash. Have you attempted to take out
a loan for another dojo or would your conviction get in the way of
teaching children?

Lamont Cranston

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May 23, 2012, 6:53:11 PM5/23/12
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Obama was never an assemblyman.

RichTravsky

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May 26, 2012, 1:06:07 AM5/26/12
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Actually this is a huge improvement over the mess Duhbya made...

RT

RichTravsky

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May 26, 2012, 1:08:49 AM5/26/12
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Weaseling out now, eh? heh heh

> >> >> When ever Obama tries to help it does just the opposite.
> >>
> >> I Googgled Obama Chicago urban renewal projects a few times and have
> >> NEVER come up with a single hit. Imagine that.
> >
> >I suggest you learn how to use google...
>
> I know all about promoting on Google, stupid. Marketing is my #1 job
> after creating urgency to purchase. It's what I do.

Mysteriously, all records of any projects have disappeared! It's a... a...
CONSPIRACY!

RichTravsky

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May 26, 2012, 1:34:48 AM5/26/12
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No answer.

emoneyjoe

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May 26, 2012, 2:07:32 AM5/26/12
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I didn't lose any civil rights, whining about that
is your thing, not mine.

But you are jumping around on different
subjects, the economy and civil rights are
not connected.







Bob LeChevalier

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May 26, 2012, 5:19:39 AM5/26/12
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"C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>Actually the number of jobs per month needs to be 250,000 to keep up
>with population growth.

The adult population isn't growing nearly that fast. Indeed, the
total population of the US, grew by only 27 million from 2000 to 2010.
2.7 million a year is only 225,000 per month.

In the last two years, growth was only 2.3 million each year, or
190,000 per month.

And not all of that growth is in the age range of the labor force.

Per the BLS, the civilian noninstitutional labor force grew by around
30.7 million over the 12 years from Apr 2000 to Apr 2012. That is
only 213,000 per month

lojbab
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Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org

Bob LeChevalier

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May 26, 2012, 5:24:44 AM5/26/12
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"C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>> The problem started with Obama's Chicago way of helping...him self to
>>> other peoples money.
>>
>>Really? How? Did he get rich doing it? Well?
>
>I don't know, stupid. How did Obama get so rich while working as a
>Chicago assemblyman

When was Obama a Chicago assemblyman?

>awarding contruction contracts to Tony Rezko?

When did Obama have the power to award construction contracts to
Rezko?

>>> Not one urban renewal project Obama funded in Chicago turned out well.
>
>Not one!

When did Obama fund any urban renewal projects in Chicago?

>>> When ever Obama tries to help it does just the opposite.
>
>I Googgled Obama Chicago urban renewal projects a few times and have
>NEVER come up with a single hit. Imagine that.

Not surprising, since urban renewal never been his job.

First.Post

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May 26, 2012, 8:50:35 AM5/26/12
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Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote in
news:e481s7d84p1pbkuri...@4ax.com:

> "C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>>> The problem started with Obama's Chicago way of helping...him self
>>>> to other peoples money.
>>>
>>>Really? How? Did he get rich doing it? Well?
>>
>>I don't know, stupid. How did Obama get so rich while working as a
>>Chicago assemblyman
>
> When was Obama a Chicago assemblyman?
>
>>awarding contruction contracts to Tony Rezko?
>
> When did Obama have the power to award construction contracts to
> Rezko?

http://www.howdypodna.com/obamatimeline.html

C...@prayforme.com

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May 26, 2012, 12:46:00 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:19:39 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
<loj...@lojban.org> wrote:

>"C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>Actually the number of jobs per month needs to be 250,000 to keep up
>>with population growth.
>
>The adult population isn't growing nearly that fast. Indeed, the
>total population of the US, grew by only 27 million from 2000 to 2010.
>2.7 million a year is only 225,000 per month.
>
>In the last two years, growth was only 2.3 million each year, or
>190,000 per month.
>
>And not all of that growth is in the age range of the labor force.
>
>Per the BLS, the civilian noninstitutional labor force grew by around
>30.7 million over the 12 years from Apr 2000 to Apr 2012. That is
>only 213,000 per month

Such delusions comfort you I know but it's not reality.

C...@prayforme.com

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May 26, 2012, 12:53:27 PM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:34:48 -0600, RichTravsky
<traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:

We've all lost the right to pursue happiness without being molested by
gubment regulations.

Did you read what happened to my neighbor when he tried to construct a
ramp for his mother? The city came down on him so fast and hard it
reeks of Marxism.

Try growing a simple garden in the city without the FDA's or zoning
approval. Try buying non-GMO corn seed, tobacco seed or soybean.

Try buying eggs from a farmer or raw cows milk.

C...@prayforme.com

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May 26, 2012, 12:57:08 PM5/26/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 23:08:49 -0600, RichTravsky
There's no records of Oboobuh accomplishments, none


>
>> >> >> When ever Obama tries to help it does just the opposite.
>> >>
>> >> I Googgled Obama Chicago urban renewal projects a few times and have
>> >> NEVER come up with a single hit. Imagine that.
>> >
>> >I suggest you learn how to use google...
>>
>> I know all about promoting on Google, stupid. Marketing is my #1 job
>> after creating urgency to purchase. It's what I do.
>
>Mysteriously, all records of any projects have disappeared! It's a... a...
>CONSPIRACY!

So you tried to find some record of sucess of the Boob but couldn't
find even a single lie, could you?

emoneyjoe

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May 26, 2012, 3:39:09 PM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 12:46:00 -0400, "C...@PrayForMe.com"
<C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 May 2012 05:19:39 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
><loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
>
>>"C...@PrayForMe.com" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>>Actually the number of jobs per month needs to be 250,000 to keep up
>>>with population growth.
>>
>>The adult population isn't growing nearly that fast. Indeed, the
>>total population of the US, grew by only 27 million from 2000 to 2010.
>>2.7 million a year is only 225,000 per month.
>>
>>In the last two years, growth was only 2.3 million each year, or
>>190,000 per month.
>>
>>And not all of that growth is in the age range of the labor force.
>>
>>Per the BLS, the civilian noninstitutional labor force grew by around
>>30.7 million over the 12 years from Apr 2000 to Apr 2012. That is
>>only 213,000 per month
>
>Such delusions comfort you I know but it's not reality.


It actually points out part of the problem,
those are the people who have money to spend
and good credit to buy big dollar items.

And the leftist liberal support of abortions
is a big part of the reduced number of live
births beginning 40 years ago.

The left will claim it is good because with
a smaller work force, there should be less
unemployment, but that is typical shallow
thinking of liberals.

The federal tax revenue depends a
lot on the number of people working.








RichTravsky

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May 28, 2012, 1:12:56 AM5/28/12
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HAHAHAH - please feel free to show this economic effect.
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