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Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"

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Hastert dumps Abramoff contributions

WASHINGTON, Jan. 4 (UPI) -- U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert has
distanced himself from $70,000 in campaign contributions linked to
lobbyist Jack Abramoff, by giving it to charity.

Abramoff pleaded guilty to conspiracy, fraud and tax evasion charges
Tuesday and agreed to cooperate with a federal corruption
investigation in Washington, and Hastert, R-Ill., quickly ordered the
donation, CNN said.

"The speaker believes that while these contributions were legal, it is
appropriate to donate the money to charity," Hastert spokesman Ron
Bonjean said.

Records compiled by the campaign-finance watchdog group Center for
Responsive Politics show about two-thirds of the more than $4.4
million in political donations from Abramoff, his clients and
associates since 1998 went to Republicans, but a search of Federal
Election Commission records found no personal donations from Abramoff
to Democrats.

Last month, Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., told The Washington Post that
he would return $150,000 in contributions from Abramoff, his clients
and associates. He is up for re-election in November, and state
Democrats have been hounding him over his ties to the lobbyist.

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"D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
> essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
> yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
================================

Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto says
its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.

Clinton say so what and keeps the money anyway and makes his hacks at the
DNC pay his fines .
Outraged Liberals can't be foud anywhere.

Democrats Are Fined $243,000 for Fund-Raising Violations (People's Republic
of China and Clinton)
nytimes ^ | 9/21/2002 | RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr.


Posted on 09/20/2002 10:14:08 PM PDT by TLBSHOW


Democrats Are Fined $243,000 for Fund-Raising Violations

WASHINGTON, Sept. 20 - The Democratic National Committee has agreed to pay
civil fines and turn over to the Treasury a total of $243,000 to settle
accusations that it took more than $1 million in illegal foreign
contributions in 1995 and 1996, according to Federal Election Commission
records released today.

The documents also state that the election commission's general counsel
found in 1999 that there was "reason to believe" that the People's Republic
of China "knowingly and willfully" violated federal election law. But the
heavily redacted documents also state that the commission voted unanimously
to "take no action at this time" on the general counsel's recommendation.

The documents detail efforts by the Democratic Party and the Clinton-Gore
campaign to build their war chest with help from wealthy Asian donors before
the 1996 election. In all, the election commission disclosed $719,500 in
fines today.

The largest fine, $120,000, was paid by the International Buddhist Progress
Society, which operates the Hsi Lai Temple in California, the site of an
April 1996 luncheon attended by Vice President Al Gore. The national
committee paid a $115,000 fine and agreed to turn over to the Treasury
$128,000 it had received in illegal contributions. The Clinton/Gore '96
Primary Committee paid a $2,000 fine, the records also show.

John Huang and Yah Lin Trie, two Democratic fund-raisers who pleaded guilty
to violating federal laws, agreed to pay fines respectively of $95,000 and
$7,000.

The commission also found "probable cause" to believe that Hogan & Hartson,
a Washington law firm, violated election laws in the handling of $50,000 in
donations that a client of the firm made to the national committee in summer
1996. Two officials at the firm who were involved in the handling of the
donations have agreed to pay a total of $67,500.

Representatives of the national committee and for former President Bill
Clinton declined to comment. Officials at Hogan & Hartson did not reply to a
phone message.

After the fund-raising scandal broke in late 1996, the Democratic Party
returned $3 million in questionable or improper contributions, much of it
from money donated or solicited by Mr. Huang or Mr. Trie.

Kent Cooper, a former election commission official who is now at
PoliticalMoneyLine.com, which tracks money in politics, said some fines
disclosed today appear surprisingly low. The election commission, he said,
limited the fines assessed to some people based on their claims that they
could not afford to pay more. "Some people will look at this and say the
F.E.C. should have fined them more," Mr. Cooper said.

He noted, for example, that the election commission waived fines against a
company called Global Resource Management based on the assertions by the
company's president about its "present financial circumstances," the
documents show.

The election commission found that the company, which was formed in Ohio in
1996 to resolve a "construction-related contractual matter" in Saudi Arabia,
decided to make a $100,000 contribution to a national committee fund-raiser
in New York on Aug. 18, 1996. The event was also billed as a 50th birthday
celebration for Mr. Clinton. The company's officers made the contribution in
order to meet with Ray Mabus, the former Mississippi governor and ambassador
to Saudi Arabia, who helped plan the event, the election commission found.

But the money used to make the contribution was provided by Sheik Mohammed
Oboud Al-Amoudi, a Saudi citizen, who wired $150,000 to the company. The
company used this money for the donation "even though its officers had been
informed that foreign national contributions are illegal," the election
commission found.

Mr. Cooper said the documents provided further evidence of the tactics
Democratic operatives used to raise money before the 1996 elections.

"Here, we're dealing with wire transfers and shuffling money to accounts,"
he said. "What is going on here is warning bells are going off all over the
place."

Fund-Raiser's Trial Features Gore Video (February 16, 2000) $


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>
> "D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
>> Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
>> essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
>> yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
> ================================
>
> Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto says
> its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.
>
>

If illegal I would expect the courts required the $$ to be taken.... but you
are the legal expert here....

You did say it was Clinton that kept the $$$.

>
> Clinton say so what and keeps the money anyway and makes his hacks at
> the
> DNC pay his fines .
> Outraged Liberals can't be foud anywhere.
>

So what are you saying? That the Repugs should be proud of their conduct
because you say Clinton did it?

Cory Bhreckan

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Screaming Howeird Dean wrote:
> "D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
>
>>Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
>>essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
>>yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
>
> ================================
>
> Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto says
> its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.

Clinton! Yeah!

Look over there -----------------------------------> Clinton

Clinton <-------------------------------------- Look over there!

SCREEEEEEEECH!!!!

What you you guys do without him?

Oh, and wipe those tears and give the nose a good blow. This will last
for quite a while.

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Star_Child

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Hmm.... seems that the rest of world sees this as a distinctly *Republican*
problem. Just can't shake the stink, can ya?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!


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...

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Daily Briefing: 'Waiting for the Other Shoe to Drop'
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Abramoff, Hear His Pleas
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... GOP operatives over the past 10 years in Washington is a thing to
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Huffington Post, NY - 14 hours ago
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impact of Republican power on ...

Bush entering a tough time for two-termers
USA Today - Jan 2, 2006
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Throwing the GOP an Anvil
TPMCafe, NY - Jan 2, 2006
... Republican bagmen like Abramoff, DeLay and Scanlon have created
huge slush funds that are spread around to other Republicans off the books.
...


Christian Science Monitor Coming to the Hill: lots of hearing-room
drama
Christian Science Monitor, MA - Jan 2, 2006
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chairmen fail to take up the issue ... wound down last month, an
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Media Licking Chops on Abramoff Story: "Huge, Very Large, Historic ...
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GOP made political inroads ...

GOP Lobbyist May Deal With Prosecutors
Local6.com, FL - Dec 31, 2005
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Unconfirmed Sources (satire) 6 Republican Congressmen not tied to Tom
Delay / Jack Abramoff ...
Unconfirmed Sources (satire) - Dec 6, 2005
... honest GOP members. In a Press conference held at the DC Biltmore
Hotel Mehlmen identified the 6 Republican Senators NOT tainted by the Jack
Abramoff bribery ...

2006 brings challenges for Doolittle
Auburn Journal, CA - Jan 2, 2006
... their previous efforts to unseat the Roseville Republican. ...
investigation of lobbyist Jack Abramoff is proving a political bombshell for
GOP legislators linked ...

Tom DeLay's day in the barrel
BTC News - Dec 31, 2005
... Abramoff is the lens through which any examination of GOP
corruption is now focused, but, as forcibly retired California Republican
Duke Cunningham can testify ...

The year ahead
Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, IN - Jan 2, 2006
... election contest, both in the May GOP primary and ... s district
is so pro-Republican that it ... peddling investigation involving lobbyist
Jack Abramoff, which could ...

Spokesman says donations didn't influence DeLay
NorthJersey.com, NJ - Jan 2, 2006
... congressional activities of the Texas Republican and former ...
Abramoff is linked to all three groups, the ... corporate campaign
contributions to GOP candidates for ...

Horse Sense
Helena Independent Record, MT - Dec 31, 2005
... in what we bring out," said GOP Chairman Karl ... is the US Senate
seat held by Republican Conrad Burns ... his ties to indicted lobbyist Jack
Abramoff, with several ...

GOP lobbyist plea deal could imperil lawmakers
Everett Herald, WA - Dec 31, 2005
WASHINGTON - Federal prosecutors and lawyers for Republican lobbyist
Jack Abramoff are putting the finishing touches on a plea deal that could be
announced as ...

GOP lobbyist getting close to plea bargain with US prosecutors
San Francisco Chronicle, USA - Dec 31, 2005
... The lobbyist had close ties to Republican congressional leaders
and forged strong alliances with conservative causes. The probe of
Abramoff's lobbying efforts ...


Seattle Times Lobbyist had meteoric rise and fall
Seattle Times, United States - Dec 30, 2005
... flop," said Rich Bond, a former Republican National Committee
chairman. Bond said he banished the three from GOP headquarters, telling
Abramoff: "You can't be ...


Auburn Journal Ludlow to direct Placer GOP
Auburn Journal, CA - Dec 29, 2005
... GOP leaders are concerned about the District 4 race. With
Doolittle's ties to embattled former House Republican Leader Tom DeLay and
lobbyist Jack Abramoff, ...

Highflying lobbyist takes plunge
Chicago Tribune, United States - Dec 30, 2005
... flop," said Rich Bond, a former chairman of the Republican
National Committee. He said he banished the three from GOP headquarters,
telling Abramoff: "You can ...

Hexclusive! GOP, Fortune 500 Battle Over 2006 Hurricane Branding ...
Berkeley Daily Planet, CA - Dec 30, 2005
... the-wall Republican politicians proposed the leaders of the GOP be
so "spun in the sky." Leading the list was the infamous lobbyist Jack
Abramoff, followed ...

FOX News Alert! Stay Tuned! The Great O'Reilly Hunt for the ...
News Hounds, CA - Jan 3, 2006
... is taking its cue (as usual) from the GOP. ... he was pleasant to
the two Republican women and ... Plamegate, Abramoff, Delay and now the NSA
eavesdropping scandal ...

GOP Lobbyist May Deal With Prosecutors
NBC6.net, FL - Dec 31, 2005
... The plea agreement would secure the Republican lobbyist's
testimony against several ... Abramoff and a former partner were indicted in
Miami in August on ...

DELIVERING NEWS AND OPINION SINCE MAY 9, 2005
Huffington Post, NY - Jan 1, 2006
... but on the venality of the GOP, the "winners ... the lawless and
immoral state of the Republican Party well ... As the Abramoff debacle
unfolds, heads and careers will ...

THE FAST RISE AND STEEP FALL OF JACK ABRAMOFF
Amherst Times.com, NY - Dec 29, 2005
... Rich Bond, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee.
... He said he banished the three from GOP headquarters, telling Abramoff:
"You can ...

Court to consider faster DeLay trial
Boston Globe, United States - Dec 29, 2005
... of sending the money to the Republican National Committee ... turn
gave the exact amount to seven GOP candidates for ... has also been linked
to Jack Abramoff, a top ...

Kos-Eye View
Newsweek - Dec 28, 2005
... How will the Abramoff lobbying scandal affect the 2006 ...
corrupted party and it took the GOP only 10 ... senator facing a right-wing
Republican challenger-Stephen ...

2005 Wasn't All Bad
AlterNet, CA - Jan 3, 2006
... 2. The Republican Party is mired in corruption and cronyism. ... a
million to his friends, Jack Abramoff seems to ... why working-class people
should vote for the GOP. ...

Rep. Doolittle Awaits Fallout In Lobbyist Case
GamblingMagazine.com - Dec 28, 2005
... That may explain why Doolittle's connection to Abramoff doesn't
... 2002, he became secretary of the Republican Caucus, the sixth-ranking
GOP leadership slot ...

What's Best for the Country?
Consortium News - Dec 29, 2005
... After all, Abramoff's rise was made possible by the Republican
dominance of Congress in the latter 1990s and the GOP's near monopoly on
national political ...

Briefing: GOP lobbyist Abramoff nearing plea agreement
Pioneer Press, MN - Dec 22, 2005
WASHINGTON - Jack Abramoff, the Republican lobbyist under indictment
for fraud in Florida, is expected to reach a plea agreement in the Miami
criminal case ...

AP Distorts Abramoff Numbers to Hurt GOP
RedState.org, VA - Dec 22, 2005
... Of the hundreds of thousands of dollars that Abramoff directed the
tribe to donate to congressional campaigns, the Republican-Democrat
breakdown was 11-to-1. ...

Racicot weighs in on Bush, Burns, Alito
Great Falls Tribune, MT - Dec 31, 2005
The Abramoff influence-peddling scandal in Washington isn ... Racicot,
relentless cheerleader for the GOP, is back ... job as head of the
Republican National Committee ...

Ex-Director of Md. GOP Testified on Ties to Abramoff
Washington Post, United States - Dec 22, 2005
... to attend business school, said state GOP Chairman John ... Kane
said the Republican National Committee sent him ... and that neither Scanlon
nor Abramoff served as ...

How insiders deal and deceive
Seattle Times, United States - Dec 28, 2005
... But the Abramoff scandal is just part of the corruption ... bill
came to the House floor, Republican leaders, at ... insistence of a group of
Ohio GOP members, dropped ...

GOP wants probe of Baucus fundraiser
The Missoulian, MT - Dec 22, 2005
... Kaiser said he thought the GOP complaint against Baucus was
curious given that Republican Burns is ... Justice Department probe into
whether Abramoff directed and ...

Saving President Bush
Slate - Dec 29, 2005
... Republican Minnesota is blunt: "This guy is the most ...
Washington DC and has harmed the GOP cause all ... just imagine an
eleven-year-old Abramoff borrowing against ...

A HUMBLING YEAR
San Francisco Chronicle, USA - Jan 1, 2006
... House GOP leaders made excuses for Texan DeLay, whose ...
Department inquiry into allegations that Republican uber-lobbyist Jack
Abramoff gave millions to ...

GOP asks for probe of Baucus donation
Billings Gazette, USA - Dec 22, 2005
... that the GOP complaint was an attempt to deflect attention from
Republican Sen. Conrad Burns, who is under scrutiny for actions benefiting
Abramoff clients ...

Montana GOP files complaint against Baucus
Billings Gazette, USA - Dec 21, 2005
... Republican Sen. Conrad Burns and Republican Rep. Denny Rehberg,
returned their own Abramoff-related contributions last week. Burns ...

Rewind: Bush, Iraq Topped Political News of 2005
FOX News - Dec 28, 2005
... Hammer" for his ability to get the GOP caucus to ... which in turn
sent cash to Republican Texas state ... Jack Abramoff, a lobbyist, was
indicted on fraud charges by ...

Taking Stock
CBS News - Dec 28, 2005
... Two other GOP possibilities who we thought would do more ... The
state of Ohio is a Republican disaster area. ... Robert Ney is mired in the
Abramoff investigation and ...

Ohio Congressman Fights Taint of Abramoff
San Francisco Chronicle, USA - Dec 21, 2005
... has denied wrongdoing and said he was duped by Abramoff. ... flags
that have popped up," said Republican Jim Gray ... the latest in a string of
GOP embarrassments in ...

Conserrvatisms Old and New
Always On - Dec 28, 2005
... accept a small sinecure from Jack Abramoff or the ... problem is
that a more libertarian Republican Party - and ... There's a reason for the
GOP's big-government turn ...

GEORGE BUSH'S ANNU HORRIBILIS
LA City Beat, CA - Dec 29, 2005
... a political earthquake to dislodge the Republican majority in ...
52 open seats, of which the GOP won 39 ... amount is riding on lobbyist Jack
Abramoff's anticipated ...

Briefs - Names to Watch on Way Up, Down in '06
The Jewish Journal of greater L.A, CA - Dec 29, 2005
Jack Abramoff: The once-high-flying Republican lobbyist, Jewish
benefactor and GOP best buddy has become the most radioactive man in
Washington, thanks to ...

Posted by: McQ on Thursday, December 29, 2005
Questions and Observations - Dec 29, 2005
... but mostly complete misses: Q:How will the Abramoff lobbying
scandal ... it could be devastating to the Republican Party ... corrupted
party and it took the GOP only 10 ...

Congress puts corporate interests first
Charlotte Observer, NC - Dec 28, 2005
... But the Abramoff scandal is just part of the ... Republican
majorities in both the Senate and the House insisted ... insistence of a
group of Ohio GOP members, dropped ...

"Luckie Louie" Sheldon implicated in Gambling Scandal
Political Cortext, NY - Dec 31, 2005
... scandal centered around conservative Republican lobbyist Jack ...
at least $25,000 from eLottery; Abramoff is known to ... off each other --
while GOP consultants with ...

More GOP Ethical Lapses
TPMCafe, NY - Dec 24, 2005
First we have our Congressman Pombo being a stooge for Abramoff, and
now we have another northern California Republican congressman using the
proceeds from a ...

Group didn't sway DeLay, spokesman says
Seattle Times, United States - Jan 1, 2006
... close to indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff, according to a ...
activities of the Texas Republican and former ... corporate campaign
contributions to GOP candidates for ...

Politicians caught in the rush to return donations
Las Vegas Sun, NV - Dec 20, 2005
... "If you are a Republican, you've ... Democrats this year, as party
leaders accused the GOP with fostering a ... case trying to link Reid to the
Abramoff controversy by ...

Lobbyist Abramoff discussing plea-deal terms, insiders say
AZ Central.com, AZ - Dec 22, 2005
... Scanlon, a close business associate of Abramoff's in Washington
who ... in recent months to put senior Republican officials and prominent
GOP lobbyists under ...

Sources: Abramoff wants to make deal
Austin American-Statesman (subscription), TX - Dec 20, 2005
... The case has shaken the Republican establishment, with the threat
of testimony from Abramoff, once a ubiquitous and well-connected GOP star,
sowing anxiety ...

How many conservative columnists did Jack Abramoff rent for his ...
Media Matters for America, DC - Dec 21, 2005
... 31, 1998, email memo sent by Abramoff that described ... four
House Republicans and one GOP senator. ... provided derogatory information
about Republican members to ...

2005: Year of the Republican
Gwinnett Daily Post, GA - Dec 25, 2005
... their minority status to halt GOP legislative leaders ... a swirl
of allegations surrounding Republican Ralph Reed's ... and political
colleague Jack Abramoff has been ...

Washington Post Story about the Patriot Act turns into a "Woe is ...
NewsBusters - Dec 23, 2005
... Now Abramoff himself is nearing a plea agreement that ... to get
involved," fretted another former Republican congressman, Mickey ... to the
"All is Lost" GOP and its ...

Baucus acknowledges campaign finance mistake
Billings Gazette, USA - Dec 21, 2005
... return the money after the Montana Republican Party filed ... The
GOP complaint alleges that Baucus exceeded the ... hosting the event -- held
at Abramoff's skybox in ...

What will happen in 2006? Our annual predictions
Times Record News, TX - Dec 23, 2005
... into the lobbying activities of Jack Abramoff and his ... But GOP
efforts to revitalize the House Ethics ... beats impossible odds to defeat
Republican Bob Corker for ...

Patriot Act Extension Is Reduced To a Month
Washington Post, United States - Dec 22, 2005
... of embattled Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff, and the ... of the
legislative session, Republican leaders had ... over hurricane aid spending,
GOP moderates balking ...

As the Year Ends, Some Silver Linings
OpEdNews - Dec 21, 2005
... following the defection of Vermont's Republican Senator Jim ...
The formerly iron-clad GOP party discipline has ... be snared by the
metastasizing Abramoff scandals. ...

Hayworth will keep tribal gifts
Arizona Republic, AZ - Dec 22, 2005
... Some of the recipients of Abramoff-connected money had few ...
instigated by the White House and GOP leaders to ... bill, sponsored in the
Senate by Republican Jon Kyl ...

Illinois Democrats show signs of change
Chicago Tribune, United States - Dec 26, 2005
... the unfolding of a huge scandal involving indicted GOP lobbyist
Jack Abramoff. ... Amazingly oblivious to any of this is Republican National
Committee ...

As the Year Ends, Some Silver Linings
Democratic Underground, DC - Dec 20, 2005
... following the defection of Vermont's Republican Senator Jim ...
The formerly iron-clad GOP party discipline has ... to be snared by the
metastasizing Abramoff scandals ...

Virginian could run risks in defending the indicted DeLay
Richmond Times Dispatch, VA - Dec 19, 2005
... said ethics questions will be applied to both parties, and the GOP
will do ... Abramoff is under federal investigation ... He is the lone
Jewish Republican in the House ...

Ohioans sense revival of political notoriety and scandal
Chicago Tribune, United States - Dec 22, 2005
... of a "culture of corruption." Late last week , Republican Sen ...
But his connections to Abramoff have fanned, for some ... this month that
high-ranking GOP officials do ...

Another ouch of the day
Knoxville News Sentinel (subscription), TN - Dec 27, 2005
... spending and the resultant deficit, the GOP eager beavers ... EJ
Dionne ably documents the Republican plutocratic behavior ... But the
Abramoff scandal is just part of ...

Gambling lobbyists hit jackpot
Bradenton Herald, United States - Dec 25, 2005
... Take a look at uber-gambling lobbyist Jack Abramoff, a Republican
... returned with a comparatively meager $10,000 donation for the GOP. ...
No wonder Republican Gov. ...

Many stay Ney despite scandal
Chillicothe Gazette, OH - Dec 22, 2005
... "I hope Abramoff, who's obviously ... say about Ney, considering
him part of a scandal-ridden state GOP. ... of red flags that have popped
up," said Republican Jim Gray ...

GOP Senator Returns Abramoff Funds
CBS News - Dec 16, 2005
... The Associated Press has reported that in 2001 the Montana
Republican and his staff met Abramoff's lobbying team on at least eight
occasions and collected ...

Ohio Congressman Fights Taint of Abramoff
Ely Times, USA - Dec 21, 2005
... A popular Republican in a district that voted overwhelmingly ...
denied wrongdoing and said he was duped by Abramoff. ... latest in a string
of GOP embarrassments in ...

Lobbyist's old eatery stirs the pot
Boston Globe, United States - Dec 25, 2005
... Signatures was owned by Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff ... this
restaurant," predicted one top GOP strategist ... this strategist said, is
whether Abramoff will turn ...

GOP senator set to return donations tied to Abramoff
Houston Chronicle, United States - Dec 16, 2005
WASHINGTON - Republican Sen. Conrad Burns is attempting to cut his
ties to indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff, saying he will return about
$150,000 in donations ...

DNC: Abramoff at the Center of Republican Scandals
noticias.info, Spain - Dec 16, 2005
... on Fox News, President Bush did not recognize Abramoff's former
status as the biggest Republican lobbyist in Washington and the ultimate GOP
insider, but ...


Tazmanian Devil

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"Cory Bhreckan" <corybh...@maelstrom.net> wrote in message
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Yes, they always grasp for the Clinton straw. Except, "Screamer" is lying.
Clinton is innocent.
Let's see his cite that "Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes
from China".
It's not even remotely accurate.
You'd think that the screaming weasel would be embarrassed to even bring up
China, considering Bush has sold the USA to them.


Joseph Welch

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> Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China .

This lie aside -

Does it make your right-wing butt-buddies any less guilty douchebag?

--
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***************
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you left no sense of decency?"
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> Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China .

Uh-huh. Just like Clinton invaded Haiti without going through the UN, right
liar?

I. M. Phedup

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He can point to it at his sentencing hearing as a sign of contrition
meriting a lighter sentence.

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ronin

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>
> "D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
> > Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
> > essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
> > yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
> ================================
>
> Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto says
> its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.


Where's the quote? When did he say this, Gannon?

D-word

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Joseph Welch wrote:
> "Screaming Howeird Dean" <Screaming Howeird Dean @ DNC.com> wrote in message
> news:43bc1f34$0$10306$a82e...@reader.athenanews.com...
>
> > Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China .
>
> This lie aside -
>
> Does it make your right-wing butt-buddies any less guilty douchebag?

Isn't it funny that whenever a Republican is facing an indictment or
such, the little nut-fluffer apologists are out in force trying to pin
something on Clinton. (Like we give a shit, even if it was true.) In
Retardlican thinking, any behavior can be justified simply due to the
very existence of Bill Clinton. A Republican (say, for example
Cunningham) was guilty of fraud. Response: Clinton got a blowjob.

mordacp...@hotmail.com

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If you really want to watch the rightards scream, just mention
Taiwangate.

George Grapman

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D-word wrote:
>
> Isn't it funny that whenever a Republican is facing an indictment or
> such, the little nut-fluffer apologists are out in force trying to pin
> something on Clinton. (Like we give a shit, even if it was true.) In
> Retardlican thinking, any behavior can be justified simply due to the
> very existence of Bill Clinton. A Republican (say, for example
> Cunningham) was guilty of fraud. Response: Clinton got a blowjob.
>

Someone here called it OCD-Obsessive Clinton Disorder.

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"Cory Bhreckan" <corybh...@maelstrom.net> wrote in message
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> Screaming Howeird Dean wrote:
> > "D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
> >
> >>Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
> >>essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
> >>yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
> >
> > ================================
> >
> > Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto
says
> > its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.
>
> Clinton! Yeah!
>
> Look over there -----------------------------------> Clinton
======================

Yep Clinton crimes are facts on record no liberal can hide!

Liberal @dnc.com Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook

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Clinton's Re-election Road Paved With Money
By Brooks Jackson/CNN


WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Feb. 24) -- Bill Clinton said American politics was
being held hostage by big money. And he blamed George Bush.

Clinton said at the 1992 Democratic convention, "He won't break the
stranglehold the special interests have on our elections and the lobbyists
have on our government. But I will."

Candidate Clinton promised reform. No more soft money. No more $100,000
contributions. No more corporate money in campaigns.

But President Clinton raised more soft money than any Democrat in history.
Paving the road to his own re-election with a trail of money, he followed a
trail leading to Buddhist temples and Asian businessmen, to Indonesia,
Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand and, possibly, inside the Embassy of China.

Clinton now says, "I think some of these people make honest mistakes."


But they were big mistakes, not just political embarrassments. Laws were
broken.

And dire suspicions are being voiced.

"Selling foreign policy, selling our national security for a price," says
Rep. Gerald Solomon (R-N.Y.). "This is all what this looks like and it's
never been that way."

The FBI has 25 agents on the case full-time. Congress plans a year-long
investigation. How did it happen?

We begin with the president's need

It was 1994. Clinton's popularity was plunging, and Republicans won the
Congress.

Clinton looked finished. He was reduced to saying, in April 1995, "The
president is relevant here."

So in 1995, Clinton launched his comeback with a massive TV ad campaign,
well over a year before Election Day.

The ads worked. Some, such as Dick Morris, say they were crucial.

"Without those ads, Clinton would not have been re-elected," says the
president's disgraced former political strategist.


There was a concerted drive to get money from prosperous Asians, a White
House plan to raise $7 million from them and it was carried out by some of
the president's old friends from Little Rock:

a.. Restaurant owner Charlie Trie, now seeking business deals in mainland
China.
b.. James Riady, an Indonesian businessman who lived for a long time in
Little Rock.
c.. And John Huang, who was once employed by Riady, another friend of
Bill.
Huang, working for the Democratic Party, raised nearly $3.5 million from
Asians. But he was careless of the law.

He brought in $250,000 from a South Korean company, but the contribution was
illegal because the company had no business operations in the U.S.

When reporters exposed that, Democrats gave the money back.

Soon more questions were raised, and more money was returned, including
several checks totaling $450,000 from an Indonesian man and his wife. He was
not a mere "gardener" as some describe him, but in fact a resident of a
mansion in Jakarta.

Also returned: $325,000 raised by Huang from an Indian man with Japanese
business connections but no money of his own.

Huang raised $130,000 in connection with a visit last year by Vice President
Al Gore to a California Buddhist temple, which now markets videos of the
event. Gore says he did not know it was a fund-raiser.


The money was unprecedented. So was the access.

Jorge Cabrera, a convicted drug dealer who gave $20,000, posed with Gore and
later was invited to a White House party. The Democratic National Committee
had stopped making any checks on the backgrounds of donors.

Among those sipping White House coffee with the president was Wang Jun, a
guest of Charlie Trie. Wang Jun heads a Chinese government company that was
later charged with smuggling 2,000 AK-47 automatic rifles into the U.S.

Letting him in the White House was a mistake, the president later admitted.
"We have to do a better job of screening people who come in and out of
here," he said in December.

Another coffee sipper was Pauline Kanchanalak, a Thai businesswoman who
brought five business associates to see the president while arranging more
than $250,000 in donations, later returned.

Others at the White House coffees included a man wanted by Interpol, accused
of fraud in Lebanon. He was a twice-convicted stock swindler, said by the
FBI to have mob ties.

In an elegant Washington hotel, the president dined last July with Jim
Riady, John Huang and three wealthy Taiwanese businessmen, their wives and
children. That intimate dinner raised about $500,000.


Was Washington for sale?

The president says donors got nothing they shouldn't. "What they get from
me, I think, is a respectful hearing if they have some concern about
issues," Clinton says. "I think it's a good thing when contributors care
about the country and have some particular area of expertise they want to
contribute. But nobody buys a guaranteed result."

There are no guarantees, perhaps. But donors do want influence.

One example:

John Huang wrote a memo saying Asian-American donors wanted to maintain an
immigration preference that allows naturalized citizens to bring their
brothers and sisters into the U.S. from their native countries. Huang said
it was their "top priority." The donors later got what they wanted, though
White House officials deny money was the reason.

Now Congress is investigating.

But the price was enormous, and so was Clinton's need for money.

"It started at about a million a week," says Morris, "and ultimately moved
up to little less than two million a week."

It was a total of $85 million, according to Morris -- the most expensive
presidential TV ad campaign in U.S. history.

The president personally approved every ad. And, he personally pitched in --
even turning his own birthday into a fundraiser -- to raise the money.

This time big donors got intimate access, inside the White House. Democratic
party officials selected guests for more than 100 White House coffees, then
often asked the guests for money afterward. Guests gave a total of $27
million. Some even slept overnight in the Lincoln Bedroom.


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> =========================

Clinton took bribes from taiwan too ? WOW !\

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> On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:17:55 -0500, "Screaming Howeird
> Dean" <Screaming Howeird Dean @ DNC.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
> >> Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
> >> essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
> >> yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
> >================================
> >
> >Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto says
> >its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.
>
> a) he never got any bribe money
>
> b) he did give back anything not allowed by law
>
> c) since $100 million was spent trying to prove your
> silly claim and NO such evidence ever passed the laugh
> test---feel free to give any information YOU have so
> that a proper investigation could be launched.
> ============================

Janet Reno NEVER finished her sham investigation . It was th FEC that did
one and they dont do criminal investigations.

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>
> "Screaming Howeird Dean" <Screaming Howeird Dean @ DNC.com> wrote in
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> news:43bc1f34$0$10306$a82e...@reader.athenanews.com...
> >
> > "D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
> >> Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
> >> essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
> >> yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
> > ================================
> >
> > Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto
says
> > its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.
> >
> >
>
> If illegal I would expect the courts required the $$ to be taken.... but
you
> are the legal expert here....
>
> You did say it was Clinton that kept the $$$.
>
===================================

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Clinton babs comes up with a user name and posts a 1987 item.

Liberal @dnc.com Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook

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> Summary-Unable to defend the Republicans other than by moaning about
> Clinton babs comes up with a user name and posts a 1987 item.
=======================

Summary : When Clinton was taking Illegal Chinese Bribes, we Liberals were
silent and defending Clinton so HOW FUCKING DARE YOU BRING UP CLINTONS
CHINESE MONEY BRIBES !


Number 9

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Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/24/forsale/
> Clinton's Re-election Road Paved With Money
> By Brooks Jackson/CNN
>
Snip...

"The FBI has 25 agents on the case full-time. Congress plans a
year-long investigation. How did it happen"

So, what was the outcome of that investigation?

George Grapman

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I missed it. When was Clinton convicted?

George Grapman

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babs using one name to agree with a post from babs using another name.

George Grapman

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Same result as Whitewater,Filegate,Travelgate and Vince Foster.
Message has been deleted

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Abramoff's `Equal Money' Went Mostly to Republicans (Update1)
Dec. 21 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. President George W. Bush calls indicted lobbyist
Jack Abramoff ``an equal money dispenser'' who helped politicians of both
parties. Campaign donation records show Republicans were a lot more equal
than Democrats.

Between 2001 and 2004, Abramoff gave more than $127,000 to Republican
candidates and committees and nothing to Democrats, federal records show. At
the same time, his Indian clients were the only ones among the top 10 tribal
donors in the U.S. to donate more money to Republicans than Democrats.

Bush's comment about Abramoff in a Dec. 14 Fox News interview was aimed at
countering Democratic accusations that Republicans have brought a ``culture
of corruption'' to Washington. Even so, the numbers show that ``Abramoff's
big connections were with the Republicans,'' said Larry Noble, the former
top lawyer for the Federal Election Commission, who directs the
Washington-based Center for Responsive Politics.

``It is somewhat unusual in that most lobbyists try to work with both
Republicans and Democrats, but we're already seeing that Jack Abramoff
doesn't seem to be a usual lobbyist,'' Noble said.

Abramoff, 46, is under investigation by a Justice Department-led task force;
he has already been indicted in Florida in a separate case involving the
purchase of a casino boat company.

Abramoff is talking with prosecutors about providing testimony against
former political and business associates in exchange for a reduced sentence,
the New York Times reported today, citing unidentified people with knowledge
of the case.

`Glass Houses'

The National Republican Senatorial Committee has set up a Web page, dubbed
``Glass Houses,'' featuring pictures of Democratic senators and a tally of
funds they took from Abramoff or his associates.

In the last week, two Democrats have said they're returning donations from
Indian tribes represented by Abramoff and from his associates. Senator Byron
Dorgan of North Dakota -- the top Democrat on a committee investigating the
lobbyist -- gave back $67,000. Senator Max Baucus of Montana is returning
$18,893.

Mostly Republicans

Between 2001 and 2004, Abramoff joined with his former partner, Michael
Scanlon, and tribal clients to give money to a third of the members of
Congress, including former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, according to
records of the Federal Election Commission and Internal Revenue Service. At
least 171 lawmakers got $1.4 million in campaign donations from the group.
Republicans took in most of the money, with 110 lawmakers getting $942,275,
or 66 percent of the total.

Of the top 10 political donors among Indian tribes in that period, three are
former clients of Abramoff and Scanlon: the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe of
Michigan, the Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, and the Agua Caliente
Band of Cahuilla Indians of California. All three gave most of their
donations to Republicans -- by margins of 30 percentage points or more --
while the rest favored Democrats.

Abramoff faces allegations that he bilked the casino-owning tribes out of
millions of dollars and attempted to corrupt public officials. E-mails
released by the Senate Indian Affairs Committee during a year of hearings
offer evidence that he directed the tribes to donate funds to specific
lawmakers.

Continued to Give

Abramoff's tribal clients continued to give money to Democrats even after he
began representing them, although in smaller percentages than in the past.

The Saginaw Chippewas gave $500,500 to Republicans between 2001 and 2004 and
$277,210 to Democrats, according to a review of data compiled by Dwight L.
Morris & Associates, a Bristow, Virginia-based company that tracks
campaign-finance reports. Between 1997 and 2000, the tribe gave just
$158,000 to Republicans and $279,000 to Democrats.

The Republican senatorial committee is sending information out to state
campaigns and to all Republican press secretaries on Capitol Hill about the
Democrat-Abramoff connections, spokesman Brian Nick said. The cover sheet
asks, ``They Don't Know Jack???'' in red ink and features a picture of
Abramoff surrounded by Democrats including Dorgan and Minority Leader Harry
Reid of Nevada.

Reid's Response

Reid spokeswoman Tessa Hafen said the senator is still considering whether
to return the $60,000 in donations he received from Abramoff associates and
clients. The money includes contributions that came from Abramoff's former
employer, Greenberg Traurig LLP, a lobbying and law firm with multiple
issues in Congress.

Bush, in the Fox News interview, said of Abramoff: ``It seems to me that he
was an equal money dispenser, that he was giving money to people in both
political parties.''

White House spokeswoman Erin Healy said yesterday that Bush was making the
point that Abramoff's links weren't exclusively Republican. ``The president
was referring to press reports showing Mr. Abramoff, his clients and
associates have contributed to both Democrats and Republicans alike,'' Healy
said.

``Republicans are bending over backwards to exaggerate the links'' between
Democrats and Abramoff, said Phil Singer, a spokesman for the Democratic
Senatorial Campaign Committee. ``This is a Republican scandal that involves
Republican lawmakers doing favors for a Republican lobbyist.''

`Representative No. 1'

Scanlon, Abramoff's former partner, has pleaded guilty to attempted fraud
and corruption of public officials and is cooperating with the Justice
Department's investigation. His plea agreement refers to efforts to corrupt
U.S. lawmakers, including a ``Representative No. 1,'' identified by lawyers
in the case as Ohio Republican Robert Ney.

The other names most frequently mentioned in connection with Abramoff are
both Republicans: DeLay, a one-time friend who has cut off contact with the
lobbyist, and Senator Conrad Burns of Montana. Burns, who is facing
criticism in his home state for being the top recipient of Abramoff-related
donations, said on Dec. 16 he planned to give back to the tribes about
$150,000 in contributions from Abramoff, his associates and tribal clients.

In the Florida case, in which Abramoff has already been indicted,
prosecutors allege that he and partner Adam Kidan conspired to defraud
lenders when buying SunCruz Casino Ltd. in 2000. Kidan pleaded guilty Dec.
15, and his lawyer said he's willing to testify against Abramoff.

Joseph Welch

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> "Screaming Howeird Dean" <Screaming Howeird Dean @ DNC.com> wrote in message
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>
>>"D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
>>>essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
>>>yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
>>
>>================================
>>
>>Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto says
>>its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.
>
>
>
> Where's the quote? When did he say this, Gannon?
>
>

I bet he can use a made up quote from the addled brain of Rush.

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=============================

He admitted doing it himself . Thats called self incrimination.
Here are some more crime family members to chew on.

Abramoff Bribes to democrats

Rep. Patrick J. Kennedy, D-R.I., House appropriations committee: $131,000

Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., Senate Appropriations Committee: $49,480

Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., Senate minority leader: $47,000

Sen. Byron L. Dorgan, D-N.D., ranking Democrat, Senate Interior
appropriations subcommittee: $44,050

Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., former Senate minority leader: $41,750

Rep. Dick Gephardt, D-Mo., former House minority leader: $39,500

Sources: Federal Election Commission, Center for Public Integrity, The
Washington Post

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002719106_abramdelay04.ht
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>
> "Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook" <Kook Liberal @ DNC.com> wrote in
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>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=arVHles5cKJc&refer=us
>
> Abramoff's `Equal Money' Went Mostly to Democrats
======================

Yep, we already know that.

George Grapman

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>> Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook wrote:
>>> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
>>> news:IyXuf.19$fb4...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>>>> Summary-Unable to defend the Republicans other than by moaning about
>>>> Clinton babs comes up with a user name and posts a 1987 item.
>>> =======================
>>>
>>> Summary : When Clinton was taking Illegal Chinese Bribes, we Liberals
> were
>>> silent and defending Clinton so HOW FUCKING DARE YOU BRING UP CLINTONS
>>> CHINESE MONEY BRIBES !
>>>
>>>
>> I missed it. When was Clinton convicted?
> =============================
>
> He admitted doing it himself . Thats called self incrimination.
> Here are some more crime family members to chew on.
>
Post his admission of a crime.

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>> Number 9 wrote:
>>> Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook wrote:
>>>> http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/24/forsale/
>>>> Clinton's Re-election Road Paved With Money
>>>> By Brooks Jackson/CNN
>>>>
>>> Snip...
>>>
>>> "The FBI has 25 agents on the case full-time. Congress plans a
>>> year-long investigation. How did it happen"
>>>
>>> So, what was the outcome of that investigation?
>>>
>> Same result as Whitewater,Filegate,Travelgate and Vince Foster.
>>
>> ===================================
>
> Liberal USA Today Exposes Clinton Chinese Bribe Money Laundering
>
>
> 08/09/99- Updated 11:15 AM ET
>
>
>
>
>
> Clinton's money from China, part two
>
> By James Freeman
>
> I asked in a recent column what the Chinese government had
> received in return for its illegal contributions to the Clinton/Gore
> campaign. This question is still begging for an answer, almost three
> years after the discovery of the China connection. Remember, the
> people who run China's government are communists, so unlike an
> American lobbyist who appears to be buying influence, these guys
> can't claim that they gave to Clinton because they like to support
> the democratic process.
>
> So as Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie goes on trial in Little Rock this
> week for allegedly ordering an employee to destroy evidence, it's
> worth reviewing a few facts. For those who don't recall, Trie is the
> Clinton friend and fundraiser responsible for $645,000 in illegal
> contributions to the '96 campaign, plus another $640,000 in
> questionable donations to the President's legal defense fund. He is
> the reason why communist arms smuggler Wang Jun had coffee with Bill
> Clinton at a White House fundraising event in 1996.
>
> Trie has a busy docket this year. In September, he will travel
> to DC for a separate trial on obstruction of justice, conspiracy and
> witness tampering charges.
>
> Another Clinton/Gore rainmaker, Johnny Chung, has already pleaded
> guilty to violations of campaign finance law. He has testified to
> receiving money from General Ji Shengde, head of Chinese military
> intelligence, to assist in the Clinton re-election effort. The cast
> of characters in this drama also includes the famous John Huang, DNC
> fundraiser, Clinton Commerce Department official and source of more
> illegal dollars from Asia.
>
>
> To date, there is no direct evidence linking Chinese money to
> changes in American defense policy. But if there's a reasonable
> explanation for the following list of coincidences, it's about time
> we heard it from the President.
>
> a.. Early in the Clinton Administration, China received
> America's "hot-section" technology, the key to building
> state-of-the-art fighter planes. The U.S. used this technology during
> the Cold War to gain a critical edge in creating metals used in jet
> engines.
>
> "During the '80s, Soviet engines had a mean time between
> failures of 200 hours," says Steve Bryen, a former DOD official who
> directed the Pentagon's Defense Technology Security Agency during the
> 1980s. "For U.S. engines, the figure was about 10,000 hours. This was
> a huge advantage. China's engines were even less reliable than the
> Russian ones."
>
> Previous Administrations had considered this technology so
> sensitive that they had denied requests to share it even with some of
> our allies. But when China wanted it for a helicopter project, China
> got it.
>
>
> b.. With applications from China pending, the Clinton
> Administration approved the commercial sale of super-accurate
> measurements from the Global Positioning System (GPS), which uses
> satellites to identify precise locations on the ground. GPS was a key
> U.S. advantage in Desert Storm, according to former Defense Secretary
> James Schlesinger. Previously, commercial users could get only rough
> measurements from GPS - not good enough for precise targeting of a
> missile, for example.
>
> a.. In 1996, the Administration transferred the licensing
> authority for exporting satellite technology from the State
> Department, which had opposed giving new technology to China, to the
> Commerce Department, which immediately approved the transfer. Given
> the green light by the Commerce Department, Loral Corporation
> provided China with missile technology to improve its satellite
> launch and guidance systems. This same technology can be used to
> improve the performance of missiles aimed at the United States. Loral
> is headed by Bernard Schwartz, one of the largest Democratic donors
> in the '96 election cycle.
>
>
> b.. Almost four years after the CIA and the Energy Department
> first suspected that China had stolen nuclear technology from our
> national labs and almost three years after the White House was warned
> of the specific threat at Los Alamos represented by scientist Wen Ho
> Lee, the Administration finally searched Lee's computer and
> restricted access to the Los Alamos computer network - after the
> story had appeared on the front page of the New York Times.
>
>
> c.. Last week, as evidence mounted that the Chinese were
> developing new weapons based on stolen U.S. technology, American
> planes accidentally bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, killing
> three Chinese journalists. Our President made numerous apologies,
> which were not shown on Chinese television for several days while the
> Chinese government encouraged the stoning of our embassy in Beijing.
>
> We now learn from the Washington Times that while the
> President was making his series of apologies, the U.S. government was
> defending itself against a cyber-attack originating within the
> People's Republic. Hackers operating from official Chinese news
> sources attempted to knock out e-mail systems and create bogus web
> pages on sites operated by the White House, State Department and
> other Federal agencies.
>
> And what are the new weapons China is developing with our
> technology? One is the neutron bomb, developed but never deployed by
> the U.S. military. A neutron bomb kills people but leaves buildings
> and infrastructure unharmed. This is the one that China has been most
> aggressive in building and testing. Now why would anyone want a bomb
> that could not destroy an adversary's weapons or power plants, but
> could wipe out all the people around a given target? "It's the
> ultimate ethnic cleansing weapon," says Bryen. "Suppose they wanted
> to use it on Tibet. This is a very sinister thing."
>
>
> d.. We also learn from the Times' Bill Gertz that even though
> our National Security Agency discovered in 1995 that China had sold
> nuclear technology to Pakistan, in direct violation of the Nuclear
> Non-Proliferation Treaty, the Administration made no effort to impose
> sanctions, as the law requires.
>
>
> e.. As a flood of American military technology has found its
> way to Beijing, the Clinton/Gore team has steadfastly refused to
> eliminate export restrictions on the one technology that might
> actually help Chinese dissidents: encryption software. This
> technology could allow Chinese dissidents to send and receive e-mails
> that could not be deciphered by Big Brother in Beijing. The
> pro-democracy movement in China could gain a powerful weapon, just as
> the Solidarity movement in Poland benefited from smuggled fax
> machines and radios in the early 1980s. So far, there's no
> evidence that Chinese dissidents contributed to the Clinton/Gore
> campaign.
>
>
>
>
> 08/09/99- Updated 11:15 AM ET
>
>
>
>
>
> Clinton's money from China, part two
>
> By James Freeman
>
> I asked in a recent column what the Chinese government had
> received in return for its illegal contributions to the Clinton/Gore
> campaign. This question is still begging for an answer, almost three
> years after the discovery of the China connection. Remember, the
> people who run China's government are communists, so unlike an
> American lobbyist who appears to be buying influence, these guys
> can't claim that they gave to Clinton because they like to support
> the democratic process.
>
> So as Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie goes on trial in Little Rock this
> week for allegedly ordering an employee to destroy evidence, it's
> worth reviewing a few facts. For those who don't recall, Trie is the
> Clinton friend and fundraiser responsible for $645,000 in illegal
> contributions to the '96 campaign, plus another $640,000 in
> questionable donations to the President's legal defense fund. He is
> the reason why communist arms smuggler Wang Jun had coffee with Bill
> Clinton at a White House fundraising event in 1996.
>
> Trie has a busy docket this year. In September, he will travel
> to DC for a separate trial on obstruction of justice, conspiracy and
> witness tampering charges.
>
> Another Clinton/Gore rainmaker, Johnny Chung, has already pleaded
> guilty to violations of campaign finance law. He has testified to
> receiving money from General Ji Shengde, head of Chinese military
> intelligence, to assist in the Clinton re-election effort. The cast
> of characters in this drama also includes the famous John Huang, DNC
> fundraiser, Clinton Commerce Department official and source of more
> illegal dollars from Asia.
>
> The F-16 has great American "hot-section" technology. Now
> China has it, too.
>
> To date, there is no direct evidence linking Chinese money to
> changes in American defense policy. But if there's a reasonable
> explanation for the following list of coincidences, it's about time
> we heard it from the President.
>
> a.. Early in the Clinton Administration, China received
> America's "hot-section" technology, the key to building
> state-of-the-art fighter planes. The U.S. used this technology during
> the Cold War to gain a critical edge in creating metals used in jet
> engines.
>
> "During the '80s, Soviet engines had a mean time between
> failures of 200 hours," says Steve Bryen, a former DOD official who
> directed the Pentagon's Defense Technology Security Agency during the
> 1980s. "For U.S. engines, the figure was about 10,000 hours. This was
> a huge advantage. China's engines were even less reliable than the
> Russian ones."
>
> Previous Administrations had considered this technology so
> sensitive that they had denied requests to share it even with some of
> our allies. But when China wanted it for a helicopter project, China
> got it.
>
>
> b.. With applications from China pending, the Clinton
> Administration approved the commercial sale of super-accurate
> measurements from the Global Positioning System (GPS), which uses
> satellites to identify precise locations on the ground. GPS was a key
> U.S. advantage in Desert Storm, according to former Defense Secretary
> James Schlesinger. Previously, commercial users could get only rough
> measurements from GPS - not good enough for precise targeting of a
> missile, for example.
>
> Bryen: China has developed "the ultimate ethnic cleansing
> weapon."
> a.. In 1996, the Administration transferred the licensing
> authority for exporting satellite technology from the State
> Department, which had opposed giving new technology to China, to the
> Commerce Department, which immediately approved the transfer. Given
> the green light by the Commerce Department, Loral Corporation
> provided China with missile technology to improve its satellite
> launch and guidance systems. This same technology can be used to
> improve the performance of missiles aimed at the United States. Loral
> is headed by Bernard Schwartz, one of the largest Democratic donors
> in the '96 election cycle.
>
>
> b.. Almost four years after the CIA and the Energy Department
> first suspected that China had stolen nuclear technology from our
> national labs and almost three years after the White House was warned
> of the specific threat at Los Alamos represented by scientist Wen Ho
> Lee, the Administration finally searched Lee's computer and
> restricted access to the Los Alamos computer network - after the
> story had appeared on the front page of the New York Times.
>
>
> c.. Last week, as evidence mounted that the Chinese were
> developing new weapons based on stolen U.S. technology, American
> planes accidentally bombed the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, killing
> three Chinese journalists. Our President made numerous apologies,
> which were not shown on Chinese television for several days while the
> Chinese government encouraged the stoning of our embassy in Beijing.
>
> We now learn from the Washington Times that while the
> President was making his series of apologies, the U.S. government was
> defending itself against a cyber-attack originating within the
> People's Republic. Hackers operating from official Chinese news
> sources attempted to knock out e-mail systems and create bogus web
> pages on sites operated by the White House, State Department and
> other Federal agencies.
>
> And what are the new weapons China is developing with our
> technology? One is the neutron bomb, developed but never deployed by
> the U.S. military. A neutron bomb kills people but leaves buildings
> and infrastructure unharmed. This is the one that China has been most
> aggressive in building and testing. Now why would anyone want a bomb
> that could not destroy an adversary's weapons or power plants, but
> could wipe out all the people around a given target? "It's the
> ultimate ethnic cleansing weapon," says Bryen. "Suppose they wanted
> to use it on Tibet. This is a very sinister thing."
>
>
> d.. We also learn from the Times' Bill Gertz that even though
> our National Security Agency discovered in 1995 that China had sold
> nuclear technology to Pakistan, in direct violation of the Nuclear
> Non-Proliferation Treaty, the Administration made no effort to impose
> sanctions, as the law requires.
>
>
> e.. As a flood of American military technology has found its
> way to Beijing, the Clinton/Gore team has steadfastly refused to
> eliminate export restrictions on the one technology that might
> actually help Chinese dissidents: encryption software. This
> technology could allow Chinese dissidents to send and receive e-mails
> that could not be deciphered by Big Brother in Beijing. The
> pro-democracy movement in China could gain a powerful weapon, just as
> the Solidarity movement in Poland benefited from smuggled fax
> machines and radios in the early 1980s. So far, there's no
> evidence that Chinese dissidents contributed to the Clinton/Gore
> campaign.
>
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnists/freeman/ncjf23.htm


Joseph Welch

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>> Abramoff's `Equal Money' Went Mostly to Democrats
> ======================
>
> Yep, we already know that.

Like the lying radical scumbag you are - you changed my quote to make it
appear that I said something that I did not you lying shitsack.
Abramoff's 'Equal Money' Went Mostly to Republicans
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=arVHles5cKJc&refer=us

Media Reports Wrongly Conflated Political Contributions with Illegal
Influence
http://mediamatters.org/items/200601040007

How Abramoff Spread the Wealth
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2005/12/12/GR2005121200286.html

Jack Abramoff's Federal Campaign Contributions Went to 100% Republicans
http://www.newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Jack_Abramoff.php

Jack Abramoff Lobbying and Political Contributions 199-2006
http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff.asp

Joseph Welch

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Joseph Welch

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> >
>>
> Abramoff Bribes to democrats

Media Reports Wrongly Conflated Political Contributions with Illegal
Influence
http://mediamatters.org/items/200601040007

Abramoff's 'Equal Money' Went Mostly to Republicans
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=arVHles5cKJc&refer=us

Jack Abramoff's Federal Campaign Contributions Went to 100% Republicans
http://www.newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Jack_Abramoff.php

Jack Abramoff Lobbying and Political Contributions 199-2006
http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff.asp

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George Grapman wrote:
> D-word wrote:
> >
> > Isn't it funny that whenever a Republican is facing an indictment or
> > such, the little nut-fluffer apologists are out in force trying to pin
> > something on Clinton. (Like we give a shit, even if it was true.) In
> > Retardlican thinking, any behavior can be justified simply due to the
> > very existence of Bill Clinton. A Republican (say, for example
> > Cunningham) was guilty of fraud. Response: Clinton got a blowjob.
> >
>
> Someone here called it OCD-Obsessive Clinton Disorder.


It fits. That or "Political Tourettes." Freud would say that they
have mommy issues. There seems to be a lot of castration anxiety in
Republican thinking. They are envious of Clinton's penis.

hob

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"Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook" <Kook Liberal @ DNC.com> wrote in
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> http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/24/forsale/
> Clinton's Re-election Road Paved With Money
> By Brooks Jackson/CNN
>
>
> WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Feb. 24) -- Bill Clinton said American politics
was
> being held hostage by big money. And he blamed George Bush.
>
> Clinton said at the 1992 Democratic convention,

Hey - not only have you slipped a cog, you also slipped a few digits.

Next you'll post a newsclip on Tamany Hall.

It's been FOURTEEN YEARS since your quoted words were made -
and FIVE LONG YEARS OF UNENDING WAR AND ECONOMIC LOSS AND MALFEASANCE AND
HUGE DEBT ever since Clinton left office

- get over Clinton, fer Chrissake. It's been the Bush-league era for the
past five years. Reshuffling, shifting blame, ineptitude, missing budgets,
and crony indictments.

( Looking at that, you'd think it was the Reagan years all over again,
except for being without those Presidential addle-brained comments made by
Reagan.)


"He won't break the
> stranglehold the special interests have on our elections and the lobbyists
> have on our government. But I will."
>
> Candidate Clinton promised reform. No more soft money. No more $100,000
> contributions. No more corporate money in campaigns.
>
> But President Clinton raised more soft money than any Democrat in history.
> Paving the road to his own re-election with a trail of money, he followed
a
> trail leading to Buddhist temples and Asian businessmen, to Indonesia,
> Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand and, possibly, inside the Embassy of China.
>
> Clinton now says, "I think some of these people make honest mistakes."
>
>
> But they were big mistakes, not just political embarrassments. Laws were
> broken.
>
> And dire suspicions are being voiced.
>
> "Selling foreign policy, selling our national security for a price," says
> Rep. Gerald Solomon (R-N.Y.). "This is all what this looks like and it's
> never been that way."


>
> The FBI has 25 agents on the case full-time. Congress plans a year-long

> investigation. How did it happen?
>
> We begin with the president's need
>
> It was 1994. Clinton's popularity was plunging, and Republicans won the
> Congress.
>
> Clinton looked finished. He was reduced to saying, in April 1995, "The
> president is relevant here."
>
> So in 1995, Clinton launched his comeback with a massive TV ad campaign,
> well over a year before Election Day.
>
> The ads worked. Some, such as Dick Morris, say they were crucial.
>
> "Without those ads, Clinton would not have been re-elected," says the
> president's disgraced former political strategist.
>
>
> There was a concerted drive to get money from prosperous Asians, a White
> House plan to raise $7 million from them and it was carried out by some of
> the president's old friends from Little Rock:
>
> a.. Restaurant owner Charlie Trie, now seeking business deals in
mainland
> China.
> b.. James Riady, an Indonesian businessman who lived for a long time in
> Little Rock.
> c.. And John Huang, who was once employed by Riady, another friend of
> Bill.
> Huang, working for the Democratic Party, raised nearly $3.5 million from
> Asians. But he was careless of the law.
>
>
>
> He brought in $250,000 from a South Korean company, but the contribution
was
> illegal because the company had no business operations in the U.S.
>
> When reporters exposed that, Democrats gave the money back.
>
> Soon more questions were raised, and more money was returned, including
> several checks totaling $450,000 from an Indonesian man and his wife. He
was
> not a mere "gardener" as some describe him, but in fact a resident of a
> mansion in Jakarta.
>
> Also returned: $325,000 raised by Huang from an Indian man with Japanese
> business connections but no money of his own.
>
> Huang raised $130,000 in connection with a visit last year by Vice
President
> Al Gore to a California Buddhist temple, which now markets videos of the
> event. Gore says he did not know it was a fund-raiser.
>
>
> The money was unprecedented. So was the access.
>
> Jorge Cabrera, a convicted drug dealer who gave $20,000, posed with Gore
and
> later was invited to a White House party. The Democratic National
Committee
> had stopped making any checks on the backgrounds of donors.
>
> Among those sipping White House coffee with the president was Wang Jun, a
> guest of Charlie Trie. Wang Jun heads a Chinese government company that
was
> later charged with smuggling 2,000 AK-47 automatic rifles into the U.S.
>
> Letting him in the White House was a mistake, the president later
admitted.
> "We have to do a better job of screening people who come in and out of
> here," he said in December.
>
>
>
> Another coffee sipper was Pauline Kanchanalak, a Thai businesswoman who
> brought five business associates to see the president while arranging more
> than $250,000 in donations, later returned.
>
> Others at the White House coffees included a man wanted by Interpol,
accused
> of fraud in Lebanon. He was a twice-convicted stock swindler, said by the
> FBI to have mob ties.
>
> In an elegant Washington hotel, the president dined last July with Jim
> Riady, John Huang and three wealthy Taiwanese businessmen, their wives and
> children. That intimate dinner raised about $500,000.
>
>
> Was Washington for sale?
>
> The president says donors got nothing they shouldn't. "What they get from
> me, I think, is a respectful hearing if they have some concern about
> issues," Clinton says. "I think it's a good thing when contributors care
> about the country and have some particular area of expertise they want to
> contribute. But nobody buys a guaranteed result."
>
> There are no guarantees, perhaps. But donors do want influence.
>
> One example:
>
> John Huang wrote a memo saying Asian-American donors wanted to maintain an
> immigration preference that allows naturalized citizens to bring their
> brothers and sisters into the U.S. from their native countries. Huang said
> it was their "top priority." The donors later got what they wanted, though
> White House officials deny money was the reason.
>
> Now Congress is investigating.
>
> But the price was enormous, and so was Clinton's need for money.
>
> "It started at about a million a week," says Morris, "and ultimately moved
> up to little less than two million a week."
>
> It was a total of $85 million, according to Morris -- the most expensive
> presidential TV ad campaign in U.S. history.
>
> The president personally approved every ad. And, he personally pitched
in --
> even turning his own birthday into a fundraiser -- to raise the money.
>
> This time big donors got intimate access, inside the White House.
Democratic
> party officials selected guests for more than 100 White House coffees,
then
> often asked the guests for money afterward. Guests gave a total of $27
> million. Some even slept overnight in the Lincoln Bedroom.
>
>
>
>
>
>


• Ninure Saunders

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=============
The Conservativeąs Prayer

Now I lay me down to sleep
I pray the Lord, Clintonąs soul to keep
ŚCuz should he die before I wake,
I've have none to blame for Republican mistakes.
===============
--
Pax Christi,
• Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian

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My Yahoo Group
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Lamont Cranston

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Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook wrote:

> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message

> news:IyXuf.19$fb4...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>
>> Summary-Unable to defend the Republicans other than by moaning about
>>Clinton babs comes up with a user name and posts a 1987 item.
>
> =======================
>
> Summary : When Clinton was taking Illegal Chinese Bribes, we Liberals were
> silent and defending Clinton so HOW FUCKING DARE YOU BRING UP CLINTONS
> CHINESE MONEY BRIBES !
>
>

Translation: The Republican culture of corruption has been exposed so
I'll use the standard Republican Playbook deflection technique -- blame
it on Clinton.

Lamont Cranston

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Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook wrote:

> "Cory Bhreckan" <corybh...@maelstrom.net> wrote in message
> news:BlVuf.3591$Uf7.1015@trnddc01...


>
>>Screaming Howeird Dean wrote:
>>
>>>"D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
>>>>essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
>>>>yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
>>>
>>>================================
>>>
>>>Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto
>
> says
>
>>>its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.
>>

>>Clinton! Yeah!
>>
>>Look over there -----------------------------------> Clinton
>
> ======================
>
> Yep Clinton crimes are facts on record no liberal can hide!

Please post his convictions here ===>

Lamont Cranston

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Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook wrote:

> <mordacp...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1136410217....@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...


>
>>Tazmanian Devil wrote:
>>
>>>"Cory Bhreckan" <corybh...@maelstrom.net> wrote in message
>>>news:BlVuf.3591$Uf7.1015@trnddc01...
>>>
>>>>Screaming Howeird Dean wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He
>
> is
>
>>>>>>essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
>>>>>>yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
>>>>>
>>>>>================================
>>>>>
>>>>>Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto
>
> says
>
>>>>>its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.
>>>>
>>>>Clinton! Yeah!
>>>>
>>>>Look over there -----------------------------------> Clinton
>>>>

>>>>Clinton <-------------------------------------- Look over there!
>>>>
>>>>SCREEEEEEEECH!!!!
>>>>
>>>>What you you guys do without him?
>>>>
>>>>Oh, and wipe those tears and give the nose a good blow. This will
>
> last
>
>>>>for quite a while.
>>>
>>>Yes, they always grasp for the Clinton straw. Except, "Screamer" is
>
> lying.
>
>>>Clinton is innocent.
>>>Let's see his cite that "Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes
>>>from China".
>>>It's not even remotely accurate.
>>>You'd think that the screaming weasel would be embarrassed to even bring
>
> up
>
>>>China, considering Bush has sold the USA to them.
>>
>>
>>If you really want to watch the rightards scream, just mention
>>Taiwangate.
>>=========================
>
>
> Clinton took bribes from taiwan too ? WOW !\
>

Please post information about his conviction here =====>

Lamont Cranston

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>
>>On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:17:55 -0500, "Screaming Howeird
>>Dean" <Screaming Howeird Dean @ DNC.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"D-word" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1f6or191iul32oeai...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
>>>>essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
>>>>yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
>>>
>>>================================
>>>
>>>Clinton never even gave back his illegal bribes from China . Clinto says
>>>its ok to keep ilegal bribe money.
>>

>>a) he never got any bribe money
>>
>>b) he did give back anything not allowed by law
>>
>>c) since $100 million was spent trying to prove your
>>silly claim and NO such evidence ever passed the laugh
>>test---feel free to give any information YOU have so
>>that a proper investigation could be launched.
>>============================
>
>
> Janet Reno NEVER finished her sham investigation . It was th FEC that did
> one and they dont do criminal investigations.


>
> http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/24/forsale/
> Clinton's Re-election Road Paved With Money
> By Brooks Jackson/CNN
>

Maybe Clinton's penis did it.

Baldin Pramer

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Jan 5, 2006, 11:19:07 AM1/5/06
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Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook wrote:
>>
> The same old BS


You are a waste of time.

PLONK!

--
Sir Baldin Pramer, RPA

George Grapman

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Jan 5, 2006, 11:19:22 AM1/5/06
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When was Clinton convicted of taking bribes?

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GW Chimpzilla

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Jan 5, 2006, 12:39:07 PM1/5/06
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D-word wrote:

> Can Fatty really be this stupid? How does this help his cause? He is
> essentially announcing to the world, "Yes, I did take that money, and
> yes, I do think it is tainted. Fill in the blanks for me, will you?"
>

> --------
> Hastert dumps Abramoff contributions
>
> WASHINGTON, Jan. 4 (UPI) -- U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert has
> distanced himself from $70,000 in campaign contributions linked to
> lobbyist Jack Abramoff, by giving it to charity.

He's giving the money to what conservative quasi-political charity?
>
> Abramoff pleaded guilty to conspiracy, fraud and tax evasion charges
> Tuesday and agreed to cooperate with a federal corruption
> investigation in Washington, and Hastert, R-Ill., quickly ordered the
> donation, CNN said.
>
> "The speaker believes that while these contributions were legal, it is
> appropriate to donate the money to charity," Hastert spokesman Ron
> Bonjean said.
>
> Records compiled by the campaign-finance watchdog group Center for
> Responsive Politics show about two-thirds of the more than $4.4
> million in political donations from Abramoff, his clients and
> associates since 1998 went to Republicans, but a search of Federal
> Election Commission records found no personal donations from Abramoff
> to Democrats.
>
> Last month, Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., told The Washington Post that
> he would return $150,000 in contributions from Abramoff, his clients
> and associates. He is up for re-election in November, and state
> Democrats have been hounding him over his ties to the lobbyist.
>
>
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20060104-11304500-bc-us-abramoff-speaker.xml
> Copyright 2006 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.
>
>
> --
> Laughing at Conservatives before it was cool.

Rico

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Jan 6, 2006, 5:42:30 PM1/6/06
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In article <43bc4256$0$10321$a82e...@reader.athenanews.com>, "Lunatic Looney Liberal Democrat Kook" <Kook Liberal @ DNC.com> wrote:
>http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/02/24/forsale/
>Clinton's Re-election Road Paved With Money
>By Brooks Jackson/CNN
>
>
>WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, Feb. 24) -- Bill Clinton said American politics was
>being held hostage by big money. And he blamed George Bush.
>
>Clinton said at the 1992 Democratic convention, "He won't break the

>stranglehold the special interests have on our elections and the lobbyists
>have on our government. But I will."


You know, I agree with you, no one but no one should ever vote for Bill
Clinton for President again. Now about that republican Congress, you know
the ones who shut down the house ethics comittee...

fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.

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