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Kurt Nicklas

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:34:56 PM9/20/21
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:24:15 GMT, a322x1n <vo...@void.void> wrote:

>"Andrew" <andrew.3...@usa.net> wrote in
>news:sia2pl$1c65$1...@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> news:XnsADAB534CB65A8...@216.166.97.131...
>>> Viktor Tandofsky wrote:
>>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>>> "Viktor Tandofsky" wrote:
>>>>> > https://www.jstor.org/stable/4593678
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 26 states require immunizations for children
>>>>> > before they enter school. There is no Federal
>>>>> > law on the subject.
>>>>> They say, "The penalty for non-compliance is
>>>>> considered a misdemeanor and usually is not
>>>>> enforced."
>>>>>
>>>>> They also say there are religious and medical
>>>>> exemptions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for posting this.
>>>>
>>>> Those state laws were passed after years of experience with
>>>> vaccinations that work. COVID is a new animal that has only been
>>>> with us for a year and medical science does not know too much about
>>>> it. That is one reason why people are hesitant to get vaccinated.
>>>
>>> The virus doesn't care about your
>>> religious exemption or your hesitancy
>>> or your "freedom", it just wants to
>>> infect you and kill you.
>>
>> You have fear, Mitchell. Better get your
>> booster to be safe.. Get two if you can.
>
>Boosters have been well tested, even in Israel. They work
>great at preventing breakthrough infections.

I'm surprised you'd bring up Israel, Karen.

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/7/20/22584134/whats-going-on-in-israels-outbreak-among-vaccinated-people

> I'll get one
>as soon as I can, and more in the future.

Get one every week,Karen.

And be sure to wear 3 masks, even when you're in the car.

Can't be too careful, right?

<snickers>

Kurt Nicklas

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:35:48 PM9/20/21
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 10:27:51 -0600, Lamey <lame...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
>>great at preventing breakthrough infections. I'll get one
>>as soon as I can, and more in the future.
>
>
>HA HA HA SUCKER!

Karen is a cheerleader for Big Pharma and demented Joe Biden.

a322x1n

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Sep 20, 2021, 12:42:56 PM9/20/21
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Kurt Nicklas <kurt_n...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Then why are you fully vaccinated, "Kurt"?

Kurt Nicklas

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:04:45 PM9/20/21
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You've rolled that meme out multiple times but it really isn't working
for you, Karen.

Remember when you were all "My body, my choice!" ?

https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/7/20/22584134/whats-going-on-in-israels-outbreak-among-vaccinated-people

a322x1n

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:15:49 PM9/20/21
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Kurt Nicklas <kurt_n...@gmail.com> wrote in
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You didn't bother to read that article before posting the URL, did you,
"Kurt".

You just posted a URL that explains why everyone needs to be fully
vaccinated.

"In preventing hospitalization and serious disease, Pfizer vaccines are
97.5% effective for the alpha variant and still 93% effective for the
delta variant."

And, that's just part of the article. Next time read beyond the
first few lines or the headlines.

Kurt Nicklas

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Sep 20, 2021, 1:37:11 PM9/20/21
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Yes, I did, Karen, but did you?

>You just posted a URL that explains why everyone needs to be fully
>vaccinated.

I just posted a URL that explains just how common it is for vaccinated
people to get sick.


>"In preventing hospitalization and serious disease, Pfizer vaccines are
>97.5% effective for the alpha variant and still 93% effective for the
>delta variant."

The very beginning shoots down your narrative, Karen:

"Israel — the poster child for COVID-19 vaccination and the first
country to reach herd immunity — has seen a recent rise in cases.
Recently, most of the people testing positive are vaccinated, reported
The Washington Post."

Vaccines as they are are not the answer because they were released
before they were tested, Karen.

See how naive you are? You suck up every one of Dr. Fauci's stinky
farts and repeat them over and over.

You're a joke.


>And, that's just part of the article. Next time read beyond the
>first few lines or the headlines.

I did and it undercuts everything you've been saying about how
vaccines are the be-all and end-all of beating Covid.

It's still "My body, my choice!", Karen.


a322x1n

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Sep 20, 2021, 2:19:51 PM9/20/21
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Kurt Nicklas <kurt_n...@gmail.com> wrote in
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And, you still didn't bother to read the article, "Kurt".
The big words must've given you a headache. Besides, you
find it easier to lie, "Kurt", it's what you do best.

Scout

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Sep 20, 2021, 3:57:34 PM9/20/21
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"Kurt Nicklas" <kurt_n...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And the key phrase from that story:

"The people who are not testing positive in the current outbreak are those
who have had COVID-19 previously and recovered. "

Oh, Crap, natural immunity is better.....



Mitchell Holman

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Sep 20, 2021, 9:33:39 PM9/20/21
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"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
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If "natural immunity" is so great why
did Covid survivor Trump get vaccinated?




Rudy Canoza

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Sep 20, 2021, 9:53:51 PM9/20/21
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"'Hybrid immunity': Why people who had Covid should still get vaccinated"
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/hybrid-immunity-people-covid-still-get-vaccinated-rcna1974


CDC FAQ:

"If I have already had COVID-19 and recovered, do I still need to get vaccinated
with a COVID-19 vaccine?"

"Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19
because:

* Research has not yet shown how long you are protected from getting COVID-19
again after you recover from COVID-19.
* Vaccination helps protect you even if you’ve already had COVID-19.

"Evidence is emerging that people get better protection by being fully
vaccinated compared with having had COVID-19. One study showed that unvaccinated
people who already had COVID-19 are more than 2 times as likely than fully
vaccinated people to get COVID-19 again."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html


All of this is moot. scooter is vaccinated, as are kurtsie and kleine
klauschen. They're only trolling you.



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Sep 20, 2021, 11:07:11 PM9/20/21
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On 2021-09-20 8:04 p.m., Lamey wrote:
> TRUMP they scream 10 months later.
>
canada had an entire federal election over the last month , my gut won ,
i don't expect americans to care but i wonder if they even knew ,
canada had a federal election in the last month

%

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Sep 21, 2021, 12:03:03 AM9/21/21
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On 2021-09-20 8:16 p.m., Lamey wrote:
>> canada had an entire federal election over the last month , my guy won ,
>> i don't expect americans to care but i wonder if they even knew ,
>> canada had a federal election in the last month
>
> they are to busy crying about trump
>
>
> hi
>
its funny how different countries do their campaigning ,
some just go to usenet and say , hi

Scout

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Sep 21, 2021, 10:06:34 AM9/21/21
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"Mitchell Holman" <noe...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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You will have to ask him that, I have no knowledge of why he made the
decisions he did, or what he was actually given.

Meanwhile, I acknowledge your attempt to change the subject. What is clear
is that the evidence does seem to support the idea that natural immunity is
better since it seems to be about 100% effective against all known variants.

BeamMeUpScotty

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Sep 21, 2021, 10:10:34 AM9/21/21
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Which begs the question of whether it was really an election or did the
LEFTISTS just appoint another LEFTIST for a few more years in a NOT so
Democratic NATION that's NOT a republic.

--
That's karma

You know there is a point when you're adding water to the soup, that you
no longer have soup you just have water...

That's true for Democrats also, at some point when you're adding
Democrats to anything, you reach the point where you end up with just a
pile of shit.

Look at San Francisco, my theory is that it reached critical Democrat
"STUPID" mass, and has transmutated into a huge pile of shit like cold
fusion only it's real.

I'm also working on the *THEORY OF EVERYTHING STUPID* and that
Space/Time and /stupid/ are infinite... and that Democrats are an
integral part of that theory of STUPID. It may prove a new quantum
partical that I'm calling "dunce democrat" particals that will join
quantum physics and the theory of stupid to become the theory of everything.

OrigInfoJunkie

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Sep 21, 2021, 1:26:55 PM9/21/21
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LOL! "what he was 'actually' [sic] given." scooter is revealing that the dirty
depths of his willingness to believe bullshit conspiracies is bottomless. He
seriously entertains the thought that Trump didn't "really" receive a
vaccination against COVID-19, but instead was injected with something else...or
maybe even didn't receive a shot at all.


scooter seems to be suffering from delirium tremens from his grossly excessive
alcohol consumption while out in the woods with the Virginia Campers.

Mitchell Holman

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Sep 21, 2021, 1:30:29 PM9/21/21
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"Scout" <me4...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
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You are, of course, wrong.




Do Covid Survivors Need To Get Vaccinated?
Experts Say Yes
September 2, 2021

People who contract Covid-19 may develop
natural immunity to the coronavirus, but
they should still get vaccinated, according
to researchers and federal and state guidance.

That’s because studies show getting vaccinated
strengthens natural immunity against the virus,
and that immunity can wane as quickly as three
months from an initial infection.

Some people may prefer to wait to get infected
and build up antibodies that way. But doing so
comes with the risk of hospitalization and
death that could be avoided with vaccination.

“You shouldn’t wait around for natural immunity
from a real infection thinking you’ll have better
immunity, because that can kill you,” said Robert
Schooley, a virologist and infection disease
specialist at the University of California at
San Diego.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/09/do-covid-survivors-need-to-get-
vaccinated-experts-say-yes/







George Plimpton

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Sep 21, 2021, 1:34:05 PM9/21/21
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Well, yeah, but y'see, scooter is *every* bit as much anti-science as Hartung.
If the scientific consensus goes against his personal
religion-and-ideology-driven believies, then he just rejects it.

Kurt Nicklas

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Sep 21, 2021, 1:37:56 PM9/21/21
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I did read the article,Karen, and what I said about it above still
stands. And it directly undercuts your narrative you've been pushing.

Vaccines aren't the answer. You CAN get sick after vaccines.

>The big words must've given you a headache.

LOL. What part of "You lose" don't you understand, Karen?

> Besides, you
>find it easier to lie, "Kurt", it's what you do best.

No, what I do best is reproduce things like the following which prove
that the US government is hiding reports of adverse vaccine
reactions:

https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/faqs#VACCINE

Question: "Are adverse reactions to the COVID-19 vaccine recordable on
the OSHA recordkeeping log?"

Answer: ( My emphasis added)
"DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working
diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations.

============================================
** OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers
from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to
disincentivize employers’ vaccination efforts.** As a result, **OSHA
will not enforce 29 CFR 1904’s recording requirements**
===========================================

to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19
vaccination through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position
at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward."

So your government wants to COVER UP ADVERSE VACCINE REACTION.
Let that sink in a while...

Blue Lives Matter

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Sep 21, 2021, 2:05:14 PM9/21/21
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"Shut up and do what you're told," says Hollowhead, "just like I
always do."

Scout

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Sep 22, 2021, 9:41:06 AM9/22/21
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"Blue Lives Matter" <Iron_White@Systemic_Patriotism.KMA> wrote in message
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So tell me, how do you get more effective than 100%???
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