And it'll be Bush's fault, too.
Dionysus
HEAD: O's day of reckoning
SUB -HEAD: Iran deadline just plain dead
By Ralph Peters
It's showtime, folks! Today's the deadline President Obama imposed on Iran's
leaders to give up their nuclear ambitions and be nice.
Not sure if the deadline expires at midnight in Tehran or on Washington
time, but the mullahs and President Mahmoud "Mighty Mouse" Ahmadinejad
aren't scrambling to give Obama a New Year's Eve smooch.
Rather than cave in to our president's mighty rhetoric, the Tehran tyrants
took a break from killing protesters in the streets to attempt to import
more than 1,300 tons of make-a-nuke uranium ore from Kazakhstan.
They've also increased their nuke-cooker centrifuge count, tested new
long-range missiles and lied like Persian rugs about hidden nuke sites. In
response, our president threatened to huff and puff and blow their house
down.
This is another debacle of Obama's own making. It's a fundamental rule of
playgrounds and security policy that you shouldn't make threats you can't or
won't back up. But Obama's in love with the sound of his own voice. The
fanatics in Tehran are more interested in the sound of a nuclear blast.
Desperate leftists in our country still compare Obama to Bush, insisting
that, well, Obama's not doing so badly, not really, not if you really think
about it.
Bush, for all his faults, worried our enemies. Obama amuses them.
Obama's primary threat against the Tehran thugs has been sanctions. OK,
let's see if he can get internationally recognized sanctions that actually
bite. I'm offering 100-to-1 odds in Tehran's favor.
China won't play. Beijing wants Iran's oil, and values Tehran as a regional
cat's paw.
Dubai won't halt its massive illicit trade with Iran. Local ruler Sheikh
Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum's desert playground is $80 billion in the
hole. And smuggling's Dubai's only growth industry these days.
And Russia will cheat on any paper agreements. As will the '-stans' of
Central Asia. And Qatar, the UAE and Kuwait. Iraq, too. And Pakistan.
Obama's threatened sanctions get even more laughable, since they'd target
only Iran's power elite. Insiders in any dictatorship are those best able to
duck the pain of sanctions. So Ahmadinejad can't get a visa for a Vegas
vacation. That'll teach him a lesson.
Only comprehensive sanctions backed by a military blockade have any chance
of working. Otherwise, as we've seen in North Korea, the well-connected
continue to feast while the commoners faint from hunger. And there won't be
a blockade, folks.
If sanctions weren't enough of a joke, we also have Obama's all-too-obvious
reluctance to back the millions of Iranians struggling for freedom and
democracy. Our president's empty remarks this week checked the block for
nervous American leftists, but provided no useful support to Iranians
risking their lives for basic rights.
What should this inept administration do? Provide clandestine, covert and
overt support to Iran's freedom crusaders. And funnel money and arms to
Baluchi, Kurdish, Azeri and Arab separatists willing to take on the
Revolutionary Guard jihadis.
Meanwhile, a paradox arises from those courageous demonstrations in Iran:
They really do threaten the monstrous regime of the mullahs -- and that
makes Iran's bully-boys even more likely to use nukes as soon as they get
them.
If Ahmadinejad and the turbaned tyrants sense that time's running out,
they'll launch any nukes they have against Israel in a frantic attempt to
kick-start Armageddon and entice the Hidden Imam to return.
These are not rational actors by our standards. They're authentic fanatics.
And the (shrinking) civilized world is racing against the clock to change
the Tehran regime before the regime can change the world.
President Obama's answer? Make it harder for Iran's rulers to acquire
foreign luxury goods. Guess Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah Khamenei won't be
drinking Chateau Margaux or Cheval Blanc at their we-popped-a-nuke
celebration.
While Obama dithers, Israel may have to act. The Gulf will explode. Oil will
be a bargain at $400 a barrel. The global economy will freeze. And we'll be
in the fight anyway.
And then? Obama will interrupt another vacation to explain that those wicked
Israelis didn't give his sanctions time to work. And it'll be Bush's fault,
too. And America's. And Islam will have nothing to do with religious madmen
murdering their own people in the streets and begging Allah to help them
nuke their neighbors.
Happy New Year!
*******************
"Obama is like the dog that caught the fire engine. Now, that he's got it,
he doesn't know what to do with it." --Lt. Col Ralph Peters (Ret)
"The picture emerging from the White House is a disturbing one, of timidity,
clumsiness and short-term calculation. Some say he is the weakest president
since Jimmy Carter." --Edward Lucas
No surrender!
Dionysus
ray
"Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
What reaction should one expect when you have a President who runs
around the world apologizing for nearly every other past President of
our country? Hell, we're giving our terrorist enemies Constitutional
rights. So Iran should take us seriously?
--
Barock Insane Obama: The greatest joke America ever played on itself.
zzpat
>
> Desperate leftists in our country still compare Obama to Bush, insisting
> that, well, Obama's not doing so badly, not really, not if you really think
> about it.
>
> Bush, for all his faults, worried our enemies. Obama amuses them.
>
If Bush worried our enemies, we wouldn't have a problem with Iran or
Iraq or the Taliban or al Qaida or anyone else. But as we all know,
Bush made each stronger. Did anyone care about the Taliban before
Bush? Did anyone care about al Qaida (or even know who or what they
were) before Bush.
Bush the failure, made his presidency on fear and his defenders try to
keep the fear going.
Btw, why is it ok for the US to have nukes but not Iran? Didn't the
US use nuclear weapons (and other WMDs) on innocent civilians and
aren't we the only country in the world to have done so?
ray
<0bc2535d-dc2e-4b0a...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
zzpat <zzpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
You are correct, nobody worried about terrorists or their organization
during the Clinton years. This is why they decided to pull a 911 on
America. And why is not okay for Iran to have nuclear weapons? It's
the same reason we don't give machine guns to retarded people.
zzpat
First off, the GOP and the NRA want everyone armed to the teeth
including the mentally ill (conservatives and gun nuts are mentally
ill - they support gun shows in which the mentally ill can easily get
guns). Second, bin Laden issued his jihad against the US and Jews
AFTER the US went to war with Iraq under Bush 41. As we all know that
war too was based on lies.
To get Americans to support that worthless war, Bush 41 had to make up
the story (carried by the entire media) that Saddam was going to take
over Saudi Arabia. Bush 41 never had to prove his case, he just
repeated it ad nauseum until war became inevitable.
So the seeds of 911 came from our first war in Iraq, a war based
entirely on lies, just like our second war in Iraq. But in your mind
Clinton was the problem.
Damn! It must be nice to be that uninformed (or misinformed).
When a person or group of people support an event that causes a great
catastrophe or series of great catastrophes, they usually regret it.
But not you....not Bush, not conservatives, not republicans, not the
brain dead media.
ray
<492b1540-e72a-4a1d...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
zzpat <zzpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ray wrote:
> > In article
> > <0bc2535d-dc2e-4b0a...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> > zzpat <zzpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
You have your facts confused. Bin Laden was upset with old man Bush
because we were in his country wheeling and dealing. He started a
ruckus, so Bush had the government throw Bin Laden out of Saudi Arabia,
and that's when he decided to get even.
Secondly, are you trying to tell me that the Kuwait invasion never
happened? That Saddam never stepped foot in Kuwait? If so, then you're
seriously delusional.
We were attacked by terrorists several times here and overseas,
including the first WTC attack in New York, and Clinton did nothing. He
arrested those who attacked the WTC, but nothing to the organization
itself. That's like killing a roach you find in your kitchen one
evening, and then claiming you solved your roach problem.
Ken Marino
Speaking of blaming Bush, have you noticed the left taking credit for a
rising stock market while every other part of the economy in this country
is still because of Bush?
Dionysus
"Ken Marino" <kph...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:ZfCdnYUTT6zC8qPW...@earthlink.com...
Excellent point. Lib Loons still suffer Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Dionysus
John Q Public
Its hurtin em too, it may get ya points while runnin but, weren't you
elected to fix it is the
retort I have!
Take fer instance BO blamin security breakdown at TSA on GWB legacy.
Well, you appointed Napolitano, she's been in office fer nigh on a year
now and:
1. If Bush's system was so bad why did you go along with it!
2. If Bush's system was so bad, what recommendations did "YOUR" appointee make
to rectify problem and when would they be enacted!
Real simple and shows the incompetence of blame!
ray
<chine.bleu-B0A71...@news.eternal-september.org>,
The China Blue Syndrome <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <oeadnb3MGIccgKPW...@giganews.com>,
> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
>
> > Bush, for all his faults, worried our enemies. Obama amuses them.
>
> Bush pissed off China and Russia making it impossible to do anything about
> Iran
> except shout empty threats. Due to Obama's willingness to negotiate, Russia
> and
> China are becoming exasperated with Iran; they are now willing to do
> something.
Oh, that's why? Silly me. I thought it was because they are actually
on the brink of having nuclear weapons.
ray
<chine.bleu-9D87B...@news.eternal-september.org>,
The China Blue Syndrome <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <hhlf0...@news7.newsguy.com>, ray <xxxr...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > America. And why is not okay for Iran to have nuclear weapons? It's
> > the same reason we don't give machine guns to retarded people.
>
> Your bigotry is showing. You are saying Jews can be trusted with nuclear
> weapons, but not Moslems.
Jews don't have extremist groups that want to see every American dead.
Moslems do. The Jews do not hate us, the Moslems do--and in particular,
the government of Iran.
You're bigotry is showing. Are you saying that the Jews can't be
trusted with nuclear weapons?
ray
<chine.bleu-AE787...@news.eternal-september.org>,
The China Blue Syndrome <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <hhm09...@news7.newsguy.com>, ray <xxxr...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Jews don't have extremist groups that want to see every American dead.
>
> All non-jewish americans: yes, they do.
>
> > Moslems do. The Jews do not hate us, the Moslems do--and in particular,
> > the government of Iran.
>
> Jews as whole do not hate us; some groups do. Moslems as a whole do not hate
> us;
> some groups do. The government of Iran doesn't hate us, though Bush was a
> useful
> idiot to rally Iranians to support the government.
Oh, by all means, please back that up. Bush rallied citizens to support
their government in Iran???? This I have to see. And when any Jewish
group expresses hatred of Americans so much that they want to see us all
dead, then that's the time to disarm Israel from their nuclear weapons.
ray
<chine.bleu-E7A91...@news.eternal-september.org>,
The China Blue Syndrome <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <hhm04...@news7.newsguy.com>, ray <xxxr...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <chine.bleu-B0A71...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > The China Blue Syndrome <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <oeadnb3MGIccgKPW...@giganews.com>,
> > > "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bush, for all his faults, worried our enemies. Obama amuses them.
> > >
> > > Bush pissed off China and Russia making it impossible to do anything
> > > about
> > > Iran
> > > except shout empty threats. Due to Obama's willingness to negotiate,
> > > Russia
> > > and
> > > China are becoming exasperated with Iran; they are now willing to do
> > > something.
> >
> > Oh, that's why? Silly me. I thought it was because they are actually
> > on the brink of having nuclear weapons.
>
> In about ten years or so they will have the capability. They haven't yet
> tested
> even an experimental weapon. It's not at all clear they actually want nuclear
> weapons.
It's pretty damn clear to me. Ten years???? It's closer to ten months.
ray
<chine.bleu-A2693...@news.eternal-september.org>,
China Blue �yster Cult <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lordy, you're stupid. The world is out there, waiting for you to understand
> it.
> Yet, you refuse.
I'll accept it anytime somebody brings proof of their claim to the
table....something which you have not done here.
Dave Heil
> In article <hhm04...@news7.newsguy.com>, ray <xxxr...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> <chine.bleu-B0A71...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> The China Blue Syndrome <chine...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In article <oeadnb3MGIccgKPW...@giganews.com>,
>>> "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bush, for all his faults, worried our enemies. Obama amuses them.
>>> Bush pissed off China and Russia making it impossible to do anything about
>>> Iran
>>> except shout empty threats. Due to Obama's willingness to negotiate, Russia
>>> and
>>> China are becoming exasperated with Iran; they are now willing to do
>>> something.
>> Oh, that's why? Silly me. I thought it was because they are actually
>> on the brink of having nuclear weapons.
>
> even an experimental weapon. It's not at all clear they actually want nuclear
> weapons.
You are beyond foolish.