A desperate attempt to pass ObamaCare
Dionysus
HEAD: Pelosi, Reid Threatening Congressmen Over ObamaCare
The House and Senate may be out of session on winter recess, but Barack
Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are busy threatening legislators� cutting
secret, back-room deals� they�re twisting arms� all in a desperate attempt
to pass ObamaCare.
Why are they so desperate?
Because, contrary to what you�ve been hearing from the liberal mainstream
media, ObamaCare is not a done deal� and Obama, Pelosi and Reid know it.
Obama, Pelosi and Reid know that ObamaCare can be stopped. That�s why they
are desperately issuing threats and cutting secret deals.
And their desperation is proof that you can stop them.
But that means that each and every one of us is going to have to step up and
keep fighting against ObamaCare.
According to recent reports, Obama, Pelosi and Reid are actually threatening
Members of Congress.
LifeNews.com issued the following item:
�Congressman Bart Stupak� says the Obama administration is trying to bully
him. � Stupak told CNS News that the White House and top Congressional
Democrats are attempting to twist his arm to accept the Reid-Nelson
�compromise� language that still allows massive taxpayer financing of
abortions.�
Another report from Robert Costa with National Review indicates that Obama,
Pelosi and Reid may have moved from bullying to bribery:
�After watching the Senate�s health-care debate, Rep. Bart Stupak (D.,
Mich.) tells NRO that he has one message for President Obama and House
speaker Nancy Pelosi: �You don�t buy me off.��
�Stupak tells us that he�s disappointed that Democratic leaders have offered
him legislative favors in exchange for supporting Obamacare. ��This shouldn�t
be a bill where you use hush money,� says Stupak.�
Stupak may be standing firm in opposition to these sickening tactics but don�t
count on that to last.
Senator Ben Nelson�s recent capitulation, which allowed ObamaCare to move
forward, should teach us that these iron-fist-velvet-glove tactics can work.
And that means we have our work cut out for us.
If we are going to stop ObamaCare, it�s up to us to barrage these elected
officials with the most effective legislative weapon at the disposal of
average Americans like us � personalized Blast Faxes � and demand that they
stand firm in the face of these threats and buy-off attempts.
As mentioned above, this fight is far from over. Both the House and the
Senate will have to vote yet again to pass ObamaCare.
And changing just a few votes could mean victory for the American people.
There is still time to defeat ObamaCare, but we, the American people, cannot
let up now.
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�Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans�--Will Rogers
"What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man
has tried to make it his heaven." -- F.A. Hayek
�If I am corrupt, it is because I take care of my district.� --John Murtha,
Democrat Member of the US House of Representatives.
No Surrender!
Dionysus
Michael Coburn
> FROM THE REPUBLICAN TEMPLE
>
> HEAD: Pelosi, Reid Threatening Congressmen Over ObamaCare
>
> The House and Senate may be out of session on winter recess, but Barack
> Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are busy threatening legislators…
> cutting secret, back-room deals… they’re twisting arms… all in a
> desperate attempt to pass ObamaCare.
The fact is, of course, that the health care bill has already passed.
> Why are they so desperate?
They aren't.
> Because, contrary to what you’ve been hearing from the liberal
> mainstream media, ObamaCare is not a done deal… and Obama, Pelosi and
> Reid know it.
>
> Obama, Pelosi and Reid know that ObamaCare can be stopped. That’s why
> they are desperately issuing threats and cutting secret deals.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
> And their desperation is proof that you can stop them.
>
> But that means that each and every one of us is going to have to step up
> and keep fighting against ObamaCare.
And I am hearing this same garbage from deep in the moonbat cave. The
only "pressure" that is needed is to cut a deal with Pelosi and Reid
where the Public Option will be an add on bill coming to the floor in
July or August IN TRADE for the House simply passing the _CURRENT_ Senate
version of the bill as is.
> According to recent reports, Obama, Pelosi and Reid are actually
> threatening Members of Congress.
>
> LifeNews.com issued the following item:
>
> “Congressman Bart Stupak… says the Obama administration is trying to
> bully him. … Stupak told CNS News that the White House and top
> Congressional Democrats are attempting to twist his arm to accept the
> Reid-Nelson ‘compromise’ language that still allows massive taxpayer
> financing of abortions.”
This is a lie, in part, but what else would you expect from a rightard
like Stupak. There is little doubt that the Obama administration and the
democratic leaders want to accept the Senate version of the bill and move
on to other pressing matters. The resurrection of the Public Option
after the fact is a no-brainer in that 60% of the people _WANT_ that
control over the insurance company thieves. So all, in all, the Senate
bill will do _FOR NOW_.
> Another report from Robert Costa with National Review indicates that
> Obama, Pelosi and Reid may have moved from bullying to bribery:
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> “After watching the Senate’s health-care debate, Rep. Bart Stupak (D.,
> Mich.) tells NRO that he has one message for President Obama and House
> speaker Nancy Pelosi: ‘You don’t buy me off.’”
>
> “Stupak tells us that he’s disappointed that Democratic leaders have
> offered him legislative favors in exchange for supporting Obamacare.
> “‘This shouldn’t be a bill where you use hush money,’ says Stupak.”
>
> Stupak may be standing firm in opposition to these sickening tactics but
> don’t count on that to last.
Stupak is a nat on a dog's dick. Who cares.
> Senator Ben Nelson’s recent capitulation, which allowed ObamaCare to
> move forward, should teach us that these iron-fist-velvet-glove tactics
> can work.
>
> And that means we have our work cut out for us.
>
> If we are going to stop ObamaCare, it’s up to us to barrage these
> elected officials with the most effective legislative weapon at the
> disposal of average Americans like us – personalized Blast Faxes – and
> demand that they stand firm in the face of these threats and buy-off
> attempts.
>
> As mentioned above, this fight is far from over. Both the House and the
> Senate will have to vote yet again to pass ObamaCare.
NOPE! That is a lie being perpetrated by BOTH the rightards and moonbats
as they struggle to keep their brain dead coalitions together. If the
House simply adopts the Senate bill (which seems likely with the promise
of an ADD ON Public Option bill), then LIEberman and the Senate don't get
another shot. They already passed the bill. They don't get another
chance at filibuster.
> And changing just a few votes could mean victory for the American
> people. There is still time to defeat ObamaCare, but we, the American
> people, cannot let up now.
> ************
Yes. I agree!!! Make sure that your House representative will keep the
pressure on to accept the Senate version and come back after it is the
law with a Public Option (or drug financing, or Medicare extension) bill.
It is EXACTLY, that the current bill is a start. It is absolutely NOT
the end.
In a representative republic, the fat lady never sings -- ME.
--
"Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60
Dionysus
"Michael Coburn" <mik...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hhoc7...@news5.newsguy.com...
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:52:06 -0500, Dionysus wrote:
>
>> FROM THE REPUBLICAN TEMPLE
>>
>> HEAD: Pelosi, Reid Threatening Congressmen Over ObamaCare
>>
>> The House and Senate may be out of session on winter recess, but Barack
>> Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are busy threatening legislators…
>> cutting secret, back-room deals… they’re twisting arms… all in a
>> desperate attempt to pass ObamaCare.
>
> The fact is, of course, that the health care bill has already passed.
There, there, Smelly Curmudgeon, now that we all know your debilitated
condition, your unwillingness to be self sufficient, and thus your kowtowing
to a gov't bureaucracy, none of what you write matters anymore. Just put
your head down and thumb back in your mouth. Your soma will soon be
administrated by your keepers.
No Surrender!
Dionysus
John Q Public
Sorry fuckwit, reconciliation will kill most of it and you fucks are in
real trouble!
Michael Coburn
What reconciliation? The House now has control. They can accept the
Senate version and make it the law. The Senate has nothing more to say
about it.
The choice is simple and it is as you say: If the House attempts to
change the Senate bill then LIEberman and the Republican pigs will make
the bill even worse by filibustering until the elections and stopping
anything the Democrats might want to do on any legislation at all of any
kind. So the House will accede to the Senate version or kill the entire
bill, or exercise the Constitutional Option. Those are the choices.
Playing footsie with the lying pigs is not going to be on the agenda. We
used LIEberman to get what we could and now we are done with him.
But you might check out the link in my signature.
Morton Davis
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:02:35 -0500, John Q Public wrote:
>
>> On 2010-01-02 16:18:33 -0500, "Dionysus" <no.sur...@never.net> said:
>>
>>
>>> "Michael Coburn" <mik...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:hhoc7...@news5.newsguy.com...
>>>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 09:52:06 -0500, Dionysus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FROM THE REPUBLICAN TEMPLE
>>>>>
>>>>> HEAD: Pelosi, Reid Threatening Congressmen Over ObamaCare
>>>>>
>>>>> The House and Senate may be out of session on winter recess, but
>>>>> Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are busy threatening
>>>>> all in a desperate attempt to pass ObamaCare.
>>>>
>>>> The fact is, of course, that the health care bill has already passed.
>>> ***********
>>> There, there, Smelly Curmudgeon, now that we all know your debilitated
>>> condition, your unwillingness to be self sufficient, and thus your
>>> kowtowing to a gov't bureaucracy, none of what you write matters
>>> anymore. Just put your head down and thumb back in your mouth. Your
>>> soma will soon be administrated by your keepers.
>>>
>>> No Surrender!
>>>
>>> Dionysus
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Why are they so desperate?
>>>>
>>>> They aren't.
>>>>
>>>>> Because, contrary to what you've been hearing from the liberal
>>>>> Reid know it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama, Pelosi and Reid know that ObamaCare can be stopped. That's why
>>>>> they are desperately issuing threats and cutting secret deals.
>>>>
>>>>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>> And their desperation is proof that you can stop them.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that means that each and every one of us is going to have to step
>>>>> up and keep fighting against ObamaCare.
>>>>
>>>> And I am hearing this same garbage from deep in the moonbat cave. The
>>>> only "pressure" that is needed is to cut a deal with Pelosi and Reid
>>>> where the Public Option will be an add on bill coming to the floor in
>>>> July or August IN TRADE for the House simply passing the _CURRENT_
>>>> Senate version of the bill as is.
>>>>
>>>>> According to recent reports, Obama, Pelosi and Reid are actually
>>>>> threatening Members of Congress.
>>>>>
>>>>> LifeNews.com issued the following item:
>>>>>
>>>>> bully him. . Stupak told CNS News that the White House and top
Michael Coburn
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!