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> Ex-soldier faces jail for handing in gun
> Friday, November 13, 2009
>
> A former soldier who handed a discarded shotgun in to police faces
> at least five years imprisonment for "doing his duty".
> Paul Clarke, 27, was found guilty of possessing a firearm at
> Guildford Crown Court on Tuesday � after finding the gun and handing
> it personally to police officers on March 20 this year. The jury
> took 20 minutes to make its conviction, and Mr Clarke now faces a
> minimum of five year's imprisonment for handing in the weapon. In a
> statement read out in court, Mr Clarke said: "I didn't think for one
> moment I would be arrested. "I thought it was my duty to hand it in
> and get it off the streets." The court heard how Mr Clarke was on
> the balcony of his home in Nailsworth Crescent, Merstham, when he
> spotted a black bin liner at the bottom of his garden. In his
> statement, he said: "I took it indoors and inside found a shorn-off
> shotgun and two cartridges. "I didn't know what to do, so the next
> morning I rang the Chief Superintendent, Adrian Harper, and asked if
> I could pop in and see him. "At the police station, I took the gun
> out of the bag and placed it on the table so it was pointing towards
> the wall." Mr Clarke was then arrested immediately for possession of
> a firearm at Reigate police station, and taken to the cells.
> Defending, Lionel Blackman told the jury Mr Clarke's garden backs
> onto a public green field, and his garden wall is significantly
> lower than his neighbours. He also showed jurors a leaflet printed
> by Surrey Police explaining to citizens what they can do at a police
> station, which included "reporting found firearms". Quizzing officer
> Garnett, who arrested Mr Clarke, he asked: "Are you aware of any
> notice issued by Surrey Police, or any publicity given to, telling
> citizens that if they find a firearm the only thing they should do
> is not touch it, report it by telephone, and not take it into a
> police station?" To which, Mr Garnett replied: "No, I don't believe
> so." Prosecuting, Brian Stalk, explained to the jury that possession
> of a firearm was a "strict liability" charge � therefore Mr Clarke's
> allegedly honest intent was irrelevant. Just by having the gun in
> his possession he was guilty of the charge, and has no defence in
> law against it, he added. But despite this, Mr Blackman urged members
> of the jury to consider how they would respond if they found a gun.
> He said: "This is a very small case with a very big principle. "You
> could be walking to a railway station on the way to work and find a
> firearm in a bin in the park. "Is it unreasonable to take it to the
> police station?" Paul Clarke will be sentenced on December 11. Judge
> Christopher Critchlow said: "This is an unusual case, but in law
> there is no dispute that Mr Clarke has no defence to this charge.
> "The intention of anybody possessing a firearm is irrelevant."
>
>
> This sounds like a bad Monty Python skit.
>
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>> Ex-soldier faces jail for handing in gun
>> Friday, November 13, 2009
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the
exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and
these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows, or
with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those
whom they oppress." - Frederick Douglass, Aug. 4, 1857
> This sounds like a bad Monty Python skit.
Welcome to England. When it comes to guns, they're all nuts over there.
Think about what the law is saying there. The man had no chance. As soon as
he picked up the trash bag he was in possession of the gun even before he knew
what it was! Now he knows he should have buried it right there. He's only 27.
There might come a time when he wants to dig it back up and use it against his
government.
--
So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
thing working out for you so far?
> "Devil's Advocate" <Devil's_Adv...@devil.xxx> wrote in
> news:4IKdnZ46T- omZGDXnZ2dn...@forethought.net:
>
>> This sounds like a bad Monty Python skit.
>
> Welcome to England. When it comes to guns, they're all nuts over
> there.
>
> Think about what the law is saying there. The man had no chance.
> As soon as
> he picked up the trash bag he was in possession of the gun even
> before he knew what it was! Now he knows he should have buried it
> right there. He's only 27. There might come a time when he wants to
> dig it back up and use it against his government.
Unlikely. They're all such happy slaves over there.
"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the
exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and
these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows,
or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of
those whom they oppress." - Frederick Douglass, Aug. 4, 1857
In the case of the british, that is totally without limits.
> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote :
>
>> "Devil's Advocate" <Devil's_Adv...@devil.xxx> wrote in
>> news:4IKdnZ46T- omZGDXnZ2dn...@forethought.net:
>>
>>> This sounds like a bad Monty Python skit.
>>
>> Welcome to England. When it comes to guns, they're all nuts over
>> there.
>>
>> Think about what the law is saying there. The man had no chance.
>> As soon as
>> he picked up the trash bag he was in possession of the gun even
>> before he knew what it was! Now he knows he should have buried it
>> right there. He's only 27. There might come a time when he wants to
>> dig it back up and use it against his government.
>
> Unlikely. They're all such happy slaves over there.
Not all of them. I know one guy with a few buried in his back yard. A
small cadre of friends do likewise and occasionally buy or sell with each
other.
I'll bet if our ex-soldier had it to do over again, he'd do the same.
England has got to be the biggest shit hole on the planet. Life in
Afghanistan must be better than the sewer we call Great Britain. What
in hell is so great about it? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I'd say
the stupid complacent cowards deserve what they have.