Repuglicans' "The sky is falling"

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William PF

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Oct 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/22/00
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In order for the republican to regain the presidency, Americans must,
at least until the election, swallow the following BushCheney-isms:

Iraq has won the Gulf War II
The military is on the verge of colapse.
The economy is tanking.
There will be no oil in the U.S. unless we drill in Alaska.
What's bad for Big Oil is bad for America.
Drug use has pervaded every nook and crany of society.
Abortion is mandated for all women.
Every American under 18 is illiterate.

What's interesting is that they can say the above with a straight
face. What's scary is that they have apparently found plenty of
believers. Maybe plenty enough to win the election.

bf

EL PRESIDENTE

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>Subject: Repuglicans' "The sky is falling"
>From: b...@128.0.0.1 (William PF)
>Date: 10/22/00 8:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <39f2f95a...@nntp.a001.sprintmail.com>
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To vote democrat you need to beleive the following:
>
>Iraq has pled for mercy and capitulated to the terms of the truce.


You can bomb civilians and station troops everywhere and not replace equiptment
in the military.


>The economy is tanking.
A 40% crash in the stock market is a sign of a strong economy.

>There will be no oil in the U.S. unless we drill in Alaska.

Or pay $3.00 per gallon like gore says in his book.


Alpha gore says that bush's plan to give back $600 Billion will bankrupt the
country. However gore and his followers think that him spending an additional
2.3 TRILLION will not.

TCarr13397

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> b...@128.0.0.1 (William PF)

>In order for the republican to regain the presidency, Americans must,
>at least until the election, swallow the following BushCheney-isms:

Another desperate democrat?

>Iraq has won the Gulf War II

When was the last UN inspection?

>The military is on the verge of colapse.

Morale is down, recruitment is lagging

>The economy is tanking.

Followed the leading economic indicators?


>There will be no oil in the U.S. unless we drill in Alaska.

No one has made that bs statement

However since the % of imported oil continues to increase under clinton/gore
domestic sources at least ought to be considred

>What's bad for Big Oil is bad for America.

When YOU quit using fossil fuels, get back to us

>Drug use has pervaded every nook and crany of society.

Which areas are exempt?

>Abortion is mandated for all women.

democrat dream

>Every American under 18 is illiterate.

Too many are..and your sides answer is more of the same

>What's interesting is that they can say the above with a straight
>face. What's scary is that they have apparently found plenty of
>believers. Maybe plenty enough to win the election.
>
>

The closer the polls andthe election, the more hysteriacal your side gets

Thanks for the entertainment

T.Carr

Ted Kegebein

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William PF wrote:

> In order for the republican to regain the presidency, Americans must,
> at least until the election, swallow the following BushCheney-isms:
>

> Iraq has won the Gulf War II

> The military is on the verge of colapse.

> The economy is tanking.


> There will be no oil in the U.S. unless we drill in Alaska.

> What's bad for Big Oil is bad for America.

> Drug use has pervaded every nook and crany of society.

> Abortion is mandated for all women.

> Every American under 18 is illiterate.
>

> What's interesting is that they can say the above with a straight
> face. What's scary is that they have apparently found plenty of
> believers. Maybe plenty enough to win the election.
>

> bf

Why do you extremists believe your own lies?


WilkSdtr

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Stay tuned...

in order for Gore to win...

you must believe:
1) He is FOR abortion
2) He is AGAINST tobacco
3) The "wealthy" make $32000 and above, at least according to his tax plan
4) Military morale is fine... no problem... 200,000 layoffs--BIG DEAL!
5) Education is absolutely FINE; there is no need to re-vamp anything. Just
because we have the lowest test scores among the world's lowest, there's no
cause for worry.
6) Gore is responsible for the economy.. not Bill Gates, IPOs, etc. Gore can
take a little credit for his innovation and business savvy [look it up]
7) Gas prices will go down at ANY moment... just waiting for that
million-barrel reduction in $$$ to hit the pumps. Never mind cab companies
and trucking companies have been put out of business by the highest prices
in history. And still, Gore and Clinton have NOTHING to do with this!! But
when the solution comes, THEN Gore and Clinton have EVERYTHING to do with
it!
8) That abortion is at "stake," despite still being legal after Reagan and
Bush.
9) There will be no oil unless we drill in the pristine bay off Alaska's
coast, like Gore and Clinton authorized two months ago.
10) The Gulf War involved removing Saddam from office and Gore NOW believes
that's the case, whereas he did not when he supported Bush SR.

And finally... here is the BEST of them all:

[drum roll, please]

11) THAT GORE CAN ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT 4 YEARS WHAT HE COULD NOT IN THE
LAST 8!!!

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Al Welch

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America is headed for another dark period of modern history. With the
Republicans controlling congress and Bush leading in the polls, the
religious right behind Jerry Falwell is already whipping up a new
McCarthyism. Citing the "institute for conservative studies", Falwells
religious TV channel is claiming that our universities are dominated by
Marxists out to subvert the students, discredit the white American male
and undermine the American way of life.
I see a future where intellectuals, minority leaders and liberal minded
folks hide in attics and closets. We can see a time when thought is
managed and the media is monitored.
As far as the Republican claiming to be honest and of high character, he
has been claiming he'll "save" social security and now says he'll
"reform" social security while his plan is clearly one to destroy the
program. He'll replace it with still one more personal savings program
which will leave the disabled out of the program and cause many retired
to fall into dire poverty when their savings are gone.
Given the fact that Bush was a heavy drinker until he swore off the
booze at age 40, I'd say he's a recovering alcoholic with a mighty weak
claim to character.

Martin DeSantis

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It's the same public who gave Clinton a pass regarding Monica Lewinsky.
You win some, you lose some. It's called life.

Joe Nobody

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If you don't believe it, then maybe you should look up how many crime bills are out there against white males.

VAWA and VAWA II are just that. That is a bill aimed directly at men. Don't get me wrong, but I don't like Domestic Violence (at all). But, where is men's protections? And I thought it was already against the laws to abuse / hit / bite / kick / etc..... anyone. Now, all a woman has to do is SAY, "I feel threatened." and the man is out of the house. Let's see a man try to do that against a woman.

Child Support "deadbeat" whats? DADS. Not only do they get kicked out of the house, they must also subsidize the standard of living of the mother. (Read it, it is in ALMOST all Child Support guidelines). While mommy goes and socializes with every man on the world. (Where are the morals?) Something has unraveled and the kids are paying the highest prices for adults non-commitment.

Hate crimes bill. I thought that it was illegal in itself to hurt anyone, why do we have to put people in classes? White / African Americans / women / men / etc.... ?

Why? Because someone has influenced Congress and the Senate that it is needed. I don't think so, it is not needed. Enforce the laws on the books. This is an outrage. This is pandering to the classes. And it all comes from the Dems. Clinton/Gore. We continue down this road, and the government will no longer have any problem coming into your house looking for an excuse to get you.

Thanks for letting me show what you think. It is happening. Open your eyes.

Joe

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William PF

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In order for the republicans to regain the presidency, Americans must,

at least until the election, swallow the following BushCheney-isms:

Iraq has won the Gulf War II
The military is on the verge of colapse.

The economy is tanking, and if it's not, thank Newt.
There will be no oil in the U.S. unless we drill for it in Alaska.


What's bad for Big Oil is bad for America.
Drug use has pervaded every nook and crany of society.
Abortion is mandated for all women.

Every American under 18 is illiterate, unless he/she lives in Texas.

Becky Cox

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Please. The only two things that a person needs to believe to vote for Gore
are that:

A: He's telling the truth.
B: He's right.

Even Gore doesn't believe either one of those; he's switched positions so
many times, and caused the formerly honorable Leiberman to do likewise,
neither one of them can possibly believe their current stand is truly the
"right" or "correct" one. As for A, what can I say? That much of Clinton
certainly did rub off on him.

Other things that could be added to the list and easily proved unbelievable:

--Gore invented the internet, and thus all the wonderful new technology that
drove our economy for the last decade.
--Clinton, relying soley on Gore's advice, caused the great economy, the
government surpluses, and prosperity.
--If anyone but Gore is elected, that economy will fall to pieces.

I'm sorry, but I obviously don't believe the nonsense in the list of things
I would have to to vote for Bush, and yet, still, my sealed and mailed
absentee ballot is marked, quite clearly, for Bush/Cheney, Republican Party.

Thank you for reading my posts,
Becky

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Motorolaman

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BushCheney-isms? Ill take these any day over liberalism
There is no economy you fools. it's all out on credit.
and any jobs that were created started with the growth of the internet. I
forgot though Al invented the internet. You all have been duped. The economy
will never be any good until they stop stealing are money to give to the
have nots. I was making half the salary I am now under Reagan yet What I
make now buys much less. You do that math retards. The only Great economy
that exist is in your wet dream. We had better times under Reagan
and if you were not one of those who prospered your a looser. Figures I come
here to check stocks and fall into a pool of bleeding hearts who are more
concerned
about there stock portfolios then this country.
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Go Becky!!!
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Motorolaman

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In order for the Democrats to retain the presidency, Americans must,
at least until the election, swallow the following Clitt and gore-isms:

1" All blacks spics and welfare mothers will have a job.
2: Fags will be husband and wife.
3: Baby's can still have there brains sucked out kicking
4: Every one will have the same amount of prospairity
5: The smog will dissapear form the sky.
6: You won't need a motor in your car anymore.
7: Every breathing sole will never worrie about heath care
8: China will be a free country
9: Oil prices will fall because he will tap the reserves witch before the
election he said he would not touch.
And as david letterman would say!! Last but not least...

10: AL GORE INVENTED THE INTRENET!!!

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Trebor

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On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 00:57:02 -0400, "Becky Cox" <cox...@osu.edu>
wrote:

>
>Other things that could be added to the list and easily proved unbelievable:
>
>--Gore invented the internet,

He never said he 'invented the internet' that's your first lie.

>--Clinton, relying soley on Gore's advice,

He never said he relied 'solely' on Gore's advice - that's your second
lie.

>--If anyone but Gore is elected, that economy will fall to pieces.

He never said 'anyone', he said 'Bush' - stike three - your
credibility is now in shatters, and the only thing you can do is
change your name and try to start over.

Good luck!

cheers,
Trebor

Becky Cox

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I simply added these as additional food for thought. Perhaps I limited them
too much; you are calling me a liar over the extent to which I claimed each
extra point. Very well, I made a mistake, and I apologize.

First of all, he did say he "took the initiative in inventing the internet",
I'd give you the source but I left the book at home. The point of this is
that some people planning to vote for Gore believe he did have something to
do with the creation and expansion of the internet; his role, if any, was
limited. It was simple American Ingenuity, driven by our capitalistic
economy, that made the internet what we know it to be today.

Secondly, while you are correct in saying he never said he relied 'solely'
(argh, I did misspell it) on Gore's advice, he gave that impression to some
voters in order to help them believe that Gore is as responsible as Clinton,
whom they already gave credit to, for the economy.

Third, in our two party system--sad as this is in some ways--there really
are only two choices each election. Therefore, almost by default, any other
= Bush. However, the impression given to me by the campaign is that only
Gore can maintain this economy. He is fighting other people, like Nader,
although the third party candidates are ignored by both major campaigns as
much as possible, and to vote for Gore one would have to believe that he is
our best hope of maintaining a soaring economy.

I am sorry for any misunderstanding.

Thank you for reading my posts,
Becky

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Trebor

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On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 02:10:14 -0400, "Becky Cox" <cox...@osu.edu>
wrote:

>I simply added these as additional food for thought. Perhaps I limited them


>too much; you are calling me a liar over the extent to which I claimed each
>extra point. Very well, I made a mistake, and I apologize.
>
>First of all, he did say he "took the initiative in inventing the internet",

wrong again - he said that as a congressman, he took the initiative in
creating the internet, which was true, since the internet was created
through government funding, and Gore took the initiative in getting
the money for it.

>I'd give you the source but I left the book at home. The point of this is
>that some people planning to vote for Gore believe he did have something to
>do with the creation and expansion of the internet; his role, if any, was
>limited. It was simple American Ingenuity, driven by our capitalistic
>economy, that made the internet what we know it to be today.
>
>Secondly, while you are correct in saying he never said he relied 'solely'
>(argh, I did misspell it) on Gore's advice, he gave that impression to some
>voters in order to help them believe that Gore is as responsible as Clinton,
>whom they already gave credit to, for the economy.

If anyone has been trying to create that impression, it isn't Gore,
it's Clinton.


>
>Third, in our two party system--sad as this is in some ways--there really
>are only two choices each election.

That isn't true either - my ballott has seven different candidates
listed, with more room if I want to write-in someone else.

JWK

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Becky,

The chips you are using to post this probably wouldn't be available or they
would be so expensive that only a few could buy them if not for the govt.
stimulating this technology. We don't have a purely capitalist economy.
It's a bit of a hybrid of capitalism and socialism. Is it the right way to
go? Looks like it.

J

Read this:

http://chicagotribune.com/news/metro/chicago/printedition/article/0,2669,SAV
-0008220064,FF.html

GORE'S INTERNET LINK IS NOTHING TO JOKE ABOUT


Eric Zorn
August 22, 2000
Everyone seems to know that Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore did
not really invent the Internet. And everyone seems to have had a few good
laughs because he claimed he did.

Republican candidate George W. Bush provoked half a minute of derisive hoots
earlier this month in his convention acceptance speech with a wry reference
to Gore having "been there when the Internet was invented" and took a jolly
swipe at Gore in an e-mail last winter: "This Internet of yours is a
wonderful invention!"

A roster of the commentators who have made scornful or needling allusions to
this boast includes some of the columnists I admire most--("Accordingly,
when Al Gore invented the Internet..." Eric Zorn column, May 3, 1999)--and
even Gore himself has mined it for comic value, saying once, "I was pretty
tired when I made that comment because I had been up very late the night
before inventing the camcorder."

But what no one seems to know is that Gore never said he invented the
Internet. The quote that touched off 17 months and counting of mockery was
this remark to a CNN reporter on March 9, 1999: "During my service in the
United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

It was an ordinary use of metaphor. We routinely speak of politicians
building roads, bridges and other structures when we mean that they led the
necessary funding and legislative efforts, not that they put on hard hats
and spent their days at hard toil.

Obviously a legislator wouldn't and couldn't literally write the codes and
protocols to create a sophisticated computer network any more than he would
literally put criminals in jail or build a downtown bypass. But he would and
could take the political initiative to help make it happen: Speak out. Hold
hearings. Write laws.

So, did he? Was Gore a political bystander in the early days of the computer
communications revolution, or a leader?

Like a handful of other journalists who've stopped snickering at the jokes
long enough to look into this question, I've concluded that he did lead.

In June 1986, back when there were fewer than 5,000 network host sites
(there are tens of millions today) available to a comparative handful of
knowledgeable users, Gore, then a senator from Tennessee, introduced the
Supercomputer Network Study Act in response to fears in the research
community that the U.S. was dangerously lagging in this area.

Then in October 1988, Gore introduced the National High-Performance Computer
Technology Act. After it died, he reintroduced it in May of the following
year. It called for more ambitious funding to improve and expand the
connections between universities, libraries and other institutions. Both
before and after the act passed in 1991, Gore spoke frequently of "the
information superhighway," a phrase he is widely credited with coining and
that recalled the key role his late father, also a U.S. senator, played in
building (figuratively, of course!) the interstate highway system.

Computer scientist Vinton Cerf, sometimes called "The Father of the
Internet," was co-designer of the communications protocol that forms the
backbone of the Internet and a pioneer in the academic/military computer
networks from which the Internet sprung. In a statement sent to me Monday by
MCI WorldCom, where he is now senior vice president of Internet Architecture
and Technology, Cerf wrote:

"Gore's support for the research agencies ... helped to shape the
development of the NSFNET--a national network with international connections
that took up where its predecessor, the ARPANET, left off. ... By the
mid-late 1980s, then-Senator Gore had become a visible proponent of NSFNET,
which enthusiasm and insight continued and grew with his election to the
Vice Presidency. For having seen the potential in these technologies, and
for having pursued and argued for legislation and administration support for
research in these areas ... I think it is entirely fitting that the Vice
President take some credit for helping to create an environment in which
[the] Internet could thrive."

There you go. It was "entirely fitting" for him to have noted that he played
an important role in boosting this transformational technology at a critical
time in history. And those who persist in telling "Internet Al" jokes reveal
far more about their own lack of devotion to accuracy than Gore's.

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Becky Cox <cox...@osu.edu> wrote:
> Other things that could be added to the list and easily proved
> unbelievable:
>
> --Gore invented the internet....

He never claimed that. He said he took the initiative *in Congress* to
create (ie authorize funds to actually build) the Internet. It didn't
spring from the ground overnight like a mushroom, it had to be built,
and that had to be paid for.

Here's the actual interview transcript; cut-and-paste this 2-line URL:

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/03/09/president.2000/
transcript.gore/

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative
in creating the Internet."

And as the New York Daily News reported, he's got a case for that:

http://www.nydailynews.com/2000-05-05/News_and_Views/Opinion/a-65600.asp

Al Gore was "the person who, in the Congress, most systematically
worked to make sure that we got to an Internet" - says Newt Gingrich,
who surely is not likely to lie for the sake of Democrats.

One of Gore's Republican colleagues, Sen. Slade Gorton of Washington,
credited him at the time for introducing a bill that would "create
[note that word] a high-capacity national research and education
network to link up supercomputers and databases around the country."

Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf (co-authors of the TCP/IP protocol) say,
"As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high
speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected
official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a
broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and
scholarship. Though easily forgotten now, at the time this was an
unproven and controversial concept."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/1/13640.html

"Columbia University's James Traub, who chaired the computer science
and telecommunications board, says: 'Al Gore was perhaps the first
political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country...'"
http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,330871,00.html

Jaron Lanier, who pioneered (and named) "virtual reality", says in the
April 21, 199, Washington Post: "I knew Al Gore in the 1980s, and I
can attest to the fact that he 'got' the Internet even before it was
understood by much of the mainstream of computer science. It's hard for
us to remember now how alien the Internet used to be. Back in the '80s,
Mr. Gore was the only national political figure who understood what the
Internet could mean to America's future."

And if you're reading this via a Web-browser, eg Netscape or Explorer:

"Marc Andreessen, the inventor of the Mosaic Browser, has credited Gore
for making his work possible. Andreesen noted that while he was a
student at the University of Illinois, he was able to access a federal
grant program that was funded through Gore's High Performance Computing
Act, which allowed Andreessen to work on the technology that led to the
creation of the Mosaic browser."

"The co-author of a history of the online world, 'Where Wizards Stay Up
Late: The Origins of the Internet, agreed. Katie Hafner said people
have been haggling over the true beginnings of the network for decades.
'As we all know, there are many paternity claims on the Internet.
That's a given, because it's so successful. But there are so many
people who did at least one pivotal thing in either creating the
network, or encouraging the use of the network, or bringing the
network to the public -- and Gore was one of those people.'"

http://gore_in_context.tripod.com/internet.html

Gore just happened to be the "one of those people" who was in Congress.

He didn't take the sole initiative nationwide - but he did take the
initiative *in Congress*, which is all he claimed credit for.

See the 1992 article "The Building of the Internet" by J.A. Hart, et al:

http://brie.berkeley.edu/~briewww/pubs/wp/wp60

Notice what the article says about Gore's leadership being acknowledged.

It also discusses his goal: "Gore's leadership has been premised on a
somewhat different vision of the future uses of the network than those
which are implicit in the growth of the ARPANET, NSFNET, and Internet.
Gore has stated on numerous occasions that he wanted the NREN to help
the United States recover some of its lost international competitive-
ness, not just by improving the telecommunications infrastructure for
academic and business research, but also by helping to develop new
information resources for K-12 education and the public at large."

This was in contrast to the "more elitist vision" of others - who were
getting their way at the time. How much public access would there be
*now* if Gore had not been pushing for it?

Gore's Congressional role in the building of the Internet was praised
by these authors in August 1992, before Gore was elected VP, and long
before the 1999 Blitzer interview that has been so widely misquoted.

It is *not* something that Gore just made up about himself.


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And Clinton NEVER said he had sex with that woman!!


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